Bless you fine people for doing the toughest job out there. Im still convinced Richard Allen isnt guilty. And even if he were guilty, i am thoroughly convinced the prosecution, police, and jusge absolutely bungled this delivery of justice and we should all be very afraid to be caught in that particular groups crosshairs as they will apparently bend over backwards to get some one in prison
The State won because the jury was not allowed to hear all of evidence the defense had. The jury was working from what they had. Without hearing all of what the defense had of course they were going to convict him. Richard Alan confessed to the crimes under duress. I hope the defense can get another jury and the present all of their evidence they have. We want to see the guilty face justice. But it is important to get the right person or persons. Abby & Libby deserve to have the true killer or killers face justice.
Can’t believe the State was allowed to get away with all they did so much for a fair trial. If this case teaches us one thing never talk to L.E especially when you’re innocent.
The state of Indiana should be embarrassed and ashamed with the words that spew out of the leader of the Indiana State polices mouth Doug Carter and the lies and childish antics that Jerry Holeman has pulled in this case are down right shameful these people are so disappointing to the badge they hide behind and use for their unlawful biddings they are both a disgrace
And that means bringing the pointed questions to the people with the responsibility and authority to make changes. Where are the investigative journalists?!
He is still human and still has rights. His lawyers or a prisoner rights lawyer should be able to contact him. Everyone needs to write the prison, department of corrections, congress members etc and tell them we are all watching and expect him to be kept safe.
@Wife_LiLith You need a refresher course in Government and how it was designed to work. This case will be used for years in law schools because of all the due process violations and the deplorable example of judicial bias against the defendant. When lawyers, judges WORLDWIDE have spoken out regarding how Rick Allen DID NOT receive a fair trial, you KNOW there was a lot of shenanigans and foolery done. I believe the Appellate courts will right the wrongs. More importantly, there are murderers walking free to continue their crimes.
I understand she have to be careful with her words, but when she was on the defense dairies, if you paid attention and read between the lines and listen carefully to what she said ,clearly Kelsi is the one who uploaded that fake bridge pic and then showed police, what that mean idk, but it damn sure can't be good
@@StageLeftEven they were deliberately not followed up on, and any interviews of them from early days was erased. Your issue is with the state. If they wanted to erase uncertainty and stop the critics, they would prove their due diligence. They have continuously, deliberately sidestepped any thorough follow through.
@@deborahk7134RICK ALLEN was found guilty on all counts! Swallow that and get over your own BS! Leave the families alone and go find some other true crime case to follow!
So here is the defense complaints: - Detectives told Ricky they had his voice analyzed from the video (police are allowed to lie) - A detective gave his opinion on the stand that the voice sounded like little ol Ricky. And all the jurors have minds of their own and agree
@@0727peanut the attorneys are bound by the rules of professional conduct, to say it wasn’t a fair trial would be talking trash on the judge and prosecutor. They want to represent Allen in a new trial, so they are remaining professional and not giving the state any ammo. Remember they went to great lengths to try to remove the defense council the first time around.
He was in solitary confinement for his protection and not really solitary at all since he had visitors all the time and was able to make frequent phone calls.
He absolutely got a fair trial. All relevant evidence was admitted unless it was prejudicial like the video of him raging and making throat slashing motions towards the guards and then suddenly acting normal. He's an evil little psycho.
You should fule a complaint with the public defender board with your evidence. They have to abide by ethics. Then again, someone would have done that if they had lied....
Leaving crime scene photos of two bloody naked little girls out for anyone and everyone to see and share is very unethical!! That led to a man taking his own life and then when asked about the leaked photos Rossi said it didnt bother him that the pictures were out there. Would you care if those photos of your bloody naked children or grandchildren??? I'm betting you would. So stop acting like y'all did everything right!!
Public trial, public evidence. If my child were a victim (of Odinists), I’d want the public to bring those responsible to justice so we can all live without that terror running free to commit those crimes again. No way those headphones were plugged in under Libby’s body and no way RA logistically committed this crime.
@@Beezojones, you must be Kathy Allen then to say it's lame that photos of two little girls were leaked for the world to see. Pretty sure the only thing that's lame is you thinking Richard Allen is innocent 😂😂 Keep that tin foil hat on.
Richard Allen kidnapped those 2 girls and murdered them with a box cutter I live in Baltimore Md and follow this case sense they showed the photos of Libby and Abby on tv
@@deborahbrown1615 weird that the ME’s original report said it was 2 blades, one serrated, one not- and only changed his assertion to a box cutter after Allen exclaimed he used a box cutter mid-psychosis, among many other nonsensical statements and confession of events that never happened.
IT doesn't matter where you live?? People from ALL OVER THE WORLD have followed this case from the time the girls went missing. Rick Allen did not commit these crimes. What people should be concerned with besides the injustices in this case; THERE ARE individuals who need to be arrested and held accountable for this crime. Abby and Libby will not have justice until. #TRUEJusticeforAbby&Libby
@deborahbrown1615 - That is not the truth. #FreeRickAllen, innocent good man.🧡 I'm watching the Delphi case since 2020 from Europe. This Indiana States Trial, Judge Francis Gull, Prosecutor Nick McLeland, Superintendent Doug Carter, Tony Liggett, Kathy Shank and jury was a great farce. Miss Brown shame you for bad Comment against Richard M. Allen. The world is watching and sees what's going on.⚫🔴🟠
@13news... You should be ashamed of yourself for letting people in your comments accuse a 17 year old kid (at the time of her sisters murder" of being "sus"... It's one thing accusing Odinist or Ron logon or whoever these people accuse next (it's hard to keep up they've accused so many at this point) but going after the families is ridiculous and you allowing these actions in your comments is shameful
Well if the state did their job, it’d be beyond a reasonable doubt and if gull did her job it’d be public and no one would be questioning the result. Your issues lie elsewhere.
@littlegreen5845 what are you talking about? You reply to my comment with this? Your reply has absolutely nothing to do with my comment.... Do you not realize how you make yourself look?
Do you know who murders children 80% more often than anyone else? Their own family members. Know who didn't murder anyone? Rick Allen. Someone lied and made themselves fair game.
Bless you fine people for doing the toughest job out there. Im still convinced Richard Allen isnt guilty.
And even if he were guilty, i am thoroughly convinced the prosecution, police, and jusge absolutely bungled this delivery of justice and we should all be very afraid to be caught in that particular groups crosshairs as they will apparently bend over backwards to get some one in prison
The State won because the jury was not allowed to hear all of evidence the defense had. The jury was working from what they had. Without hearing all of what the defense had of course they were going to convict him. Richard Alan confessed to the crimes under duress. I hope the defense can get another jury and the present all of their evidence they have. We want to see the guilty face justice. But it is important to get the right person or persons. Abby & Libby deserve to have the true killer or killers face justice.
it is amazingly easy to win when you cheat
Time for the news crew to start looking into this case alot more!
journalists need to start journalism!
None of the evidence should be destroyed!!!
Can’t believe the State was allowed to get away with all they did so much for a fair trial. If this case teaches us one thing never talk to L.E especially when you’re innocent.
The state of Indiana should be embarrassed and ashamed with the words that spew out of the leader of the Indiana State polices mouth Doug Carter and the lies and childish antics that Jerry Holeman has pulled in this case are down right shameful these people are so disappointing to the badge they hide behind and use for their unlawful biddings they are both a disgrace
I’m so glad you all have chosen to speak out about this.
No he didn't get a fair trial.
❤ So proud of these people. The integrity they have shown gives me hope that good humans still exist.
“It’s time to start being journalists.”
Right good quote. I was about to say the same thing.
And that means bringing the pointed questions to the people with the responsibility and authority to make changes. Where are the investigative journalists?!
I'm so glad this attorney spoke up in this interview I really like her! As well as the interviewer!
She got in McLeland's face right after the sentencing too. I don't even care what it was about that guy is a Weasel.
He is still human and still has rights. His lawyers or a prisoner rights lawyer should be able to contact him. Everyone needs to write the prison, department of corrections, congress members etc and tell them we are all watching and expect him to be kept safe.
He's a child killer. He deserves nothing except what he gave those girls.
What the heck? They haven’t tested all the evidence. But, yet convicted someone.
Thank you Thank you Thank you! I mean this from the bottom of my heart!
This is a great interview! Thank you so much for speaking the truth. Its a rare thing in this case . We appreciate you.
I moved to indianer 13 years ago and haven’t met a decent person yet. Worst coworkers and people in my life. Demons.
Awww. That Doug Carter guy seems really nice with all his tears 😢 and promises. POS.
The world is watching this travesty of justice. Praying for Rick Allen.
How do these people sleep at night?
Laying down
Just like the rest of us they dont care that they put an innocent man in prison
@@amyvilla5292 he's 100% guilty and im 😁about it👌
I sleep a lot better knowing a child killer is in prison.
They have nightmares!
Thank you very much WTHR!! Rick is innocent !
Excellent interview.
Free Richard Allen. He is innocent.
I think everyone thinks he is innocent
😂😂😂😂
Il EST INNOCENT .
Speak for you and the delusional people NOT the Rest of us
@Wife_LiLith You need a refresher course in Government and how it was designed to work.
This case will be used for years in law schools because of all the due process violations and the deplorable example of judicial bias against the defendant. When lawyers, judges WORLDWIDE have spoken out regarding how Rick Allen DID NOT receive a fair trial, you KNOW there was a lot of shenanigans and foolery done. I believe the Appellate courts will right the wrongs.
More importantly, there are murderers walking free to continue their crimes.
No only the ppl that can't think logically and have some common sense
All of what evidence? You have a theory that is backed up by 0 evidence
I understand she have to be careful with her words, but when she was on the defense dairies, if you paid attention and read between the lines and listen carefully to what she said ,clearly Kelsi is the one who uploaded that fake bridge pic and then showed police, what that mean idk, but it damn sure can't be good
@@zenyahill7862 👀👀
facts 💯 she implied in the Fox59 interview that Andy was nicer to the families than she would have been. homegirl knows KG sus af
@@oilpaintolivia6874 woman’s intuition. We can smell that BS.
@@zenyahill7862 it's sad people like you go after the victims
Absolutely! Why are they all protecting her so much? Statewide! The family should be ashamed! They know he's innocent.
Have an “expert” prove one of those “suspects” was at the trails that day! Just one? 🤔🤷🏻♂️
@@StageLeftEven they were deliberately not followed up on, and any interviews of them from early days was erased. Your issue is with the state. If they wanted to erase uncertainty and stop the critics, they would prove their due diligence. They have continuously, deliberately sidestepped any thorough follow through.
@ shaaa, and “monkeys might fly out my butt!”
Where was the geofence? Richard Allen wasn't even attending bridge when the girls were killed. #Justiceforabby&libby
@ wasn’t attending? Was it a party? Anyway, Rick says otherwise like 61+ times, soooo there’s that.🤷🏻♂️
@@rocky6055oh boy if you can't figure the phone stuff out then god help you.
How many different ways can the journalist ask “what makes you think the jury found Rick guilty? 😂😂
The whole absence of evidence and everything does make it a really interesting question.
@@Ieezeca that’s almost funny👌🏼
@ know what else is interesting? The fact that 12 jurors found Rick Allen guilty on all counts! 🤷🏻♂️
Time for these damn journalists to start doing their jobs. INVESTIGATE.
Why not have Kathy speak? 🤔
why not ask Kelsi why her timeline and order of events are off all the time! Lies and more Lies!
why not ask Kelsi why her timeline and order of events are off all the time! Lies and more Lies!
@YOU ARE A DISGUSTING AND SICK MF!!!!! I sure hope you don’t have children, but you probably don’t.
@@deborahk7134RICK ALLEN was found guilty on all counts! Swallow that and get over your own BS! Leave the families alone and go find some other true crime case to follow!
Justice served
R.I.P. Abby & Libby
Sad thing is, Libby and Abby absolutely know this isn't true. We owe them better.
Who is the other suspect? Can't throw out an alternate theory with no suspect.
You haven't been paying attention they have given us 4 already
Ask judge gull why we and the jury can’t hear third party culprit evidence.
I really wish people wouldnt feel compelled to comment with zero knowledge. There were 4 confessions and 6 other other suspects at least.
Great questions. I believe Rick Allen is innocent. Much respect to defense team. ❤❤
So here is the defense complaints:
- Detectives told Ricky they had his voice analyzed from the video (police are allowed to lie)
- A detective gave his opinion on the stand that the voice sounded like little ol Ricky. And all the jurors have minds of their own and agree
Defense had no evidence
DEFENSE does not need to have evidence. Congratulations for being the first person ever I will use this emoji 🤦♀️ for.
The question was did he receive a fair trial. She skates around this simple yes or no question. Speaks volumes.
@@0727peanut the attorneys are bound by the rules of professional conduct, to say it wasn’t a fair trial would be talking trash on the judge and prosecutor. They want to represent Allen in a new trial, so they are remaining professional and not giving the state any ammo. Remember they went to great lengths to try to remove the defense council the first time around.
Of course She did thats a dumb question of course he didn't receive a fair trial
I have no heard a single lawyer ANYWHERE assert this was a fair trial. It's so bad they won't even try to argue it.
He was in solitary confinement for his protection and not really solitary at all since he had visitors all the time and was able to make frequent phone calls.
These defense attorneys are as manipulative as little ol Ricky. Talking to all the news agencies they can acting like they are victims. Ridiculous.
He absolutely got a fair trial. All relevant evidence was admitted unless it was prejudicial like the video of him raging and making throat slashing motions towards the guards and then suddenly acting normal. He's an evil little psycho.
I believe he was invovled. Just don't believe he acted alone
When you lie about facts in a child murder case you cease to be a defense lawyer and become an accomplice
What lies?
You should fule a complaint with the public defender board with your evidence. They have to abide by ethics. Then again, someone would have done that if they had lied....
The cops lied in this case, what are they?
What lies?
Can you substantiate even one lie?
Leaving crime scene photos of two bloody naked little girls out for anyone and everyone to see and share is very unethical!! That led to a man taking his own life and then when asked about the leaked photos Rossi said it didnt bother him that the pictures were out there. Would you care if those photos of your bloody naked children or grandchildren??? I'm betting you would. So stop acting like y'all did everything right!!
That's the lamest comment I've ever heard wait is this Jerry Holeman
Public trial, public evidence. If my child were a victim (of Odinists), I’d want the public to bring those responsible to justice so we can all live without that terror running free to commit those crimes again. No way those headphones were plugged in under Libby’s body and no way RA logistically committed this crime.
@@Beezojones, you must be Kathy Allen then to say it's lame that photos of two little girls were leaked for the world to see. Pretty sure the only thing that's lame is you thinking Richard Allen is innocent 😂😂 Keep that tin foil hat on.
Baby Reindeer what about what he did to those 2 little girls? Not once have you said anything about the poor victims. Pathetic
Pay Attention before you make idiotic comments.
Richard Allen kidnapped those 2 girls and murdered them with a box cutter I live in Baltimore Md and follow this case sense they showed the photos of Libby and Abby on tv
@@deborahbrown1615 weird that the ME’s original report said it was 2 blades, one serrated, one not- and only changed his assertion to a box cutter after Allen exclaimed he used a box cutter mid-psychosis, among many other nonsensical statements and confession of events that never happened.
IT doesn't matter where you live?? People from ALL OVER THE WORLD have followed this case from the time the girls went missing. Rick Allen did not commit these crimes.
What people should be concerned with besides the injustices in this case; THERE ARE individuals who need to be arrested and held accountable for this crime.
Abby and Libby will not have justice until.
#TRUEJusticeforAbby&Libby
@deborahbrown1615 - That is not the truth. #FreeRickAllen, innocent good man.🧡 I'm watching the Delphi case since 2020 from Europe. This Indiana States Trial, Judge Francis Gull, Prosecutor Nick McLeland, Superintendent Doug Carter, Tony Liggett, Kathy Shank and jury was a great farce. Miss Brown shame you for bad Comment against Richard M. Allen. The world is watching and sees what's going on.⚫🔴🟠
Well I have been following this from the beginning and you have zero idea wtf your talking about
Stop spreading lies start your research from 7 years ago and maybe you can make up dumb shit then
The first composite sketch looks just like him!
@13news... You should be ashamed of yourself for letting people in your comments accuse a 17 year old kid (at the time of her sisters murder" of being "sus"... It's one thing accusing Odinist or Ron logon or whoever these people accuse next (it's hard to keep up they've accused so many at this point) but going after the families is ridiculous and you allowing these actions in your comments is shameful
Well if the state did their job, it’d be beyond a reasonable doubt and if gull did her job it’d be public and no one would be questioning the result. Your issues lie elsewhere.
@littlegreen5845 what are you talking about? You reply to my comment with this? Your reply has absolutely nothing to do with my comment.... Do you not realize how you make yourself look?
Do you know who murders children 80% more often than anyone else? Their own family members. Know who didn't murder anyone? Rick Allen. Someone lied and made themselves fair game.
When the State doesn't do their job it leaves holes. They should have analyzed Kelseys phone. Common sense.
Thank you so much for interviewing these amazing attorneys and continuing to keep a spotlight on Rick’s case. 🫡🇺🇸