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Jason Bateman leaving was detrimental to Silver Spoons, because from what I remember, Ricky’s friends were just a group of generic “‘80s kids”, and you didn’t really have a standout character like Derek for Ricky to interact with. But on the other hand, it let Bateman go on to “It’s Your Move”, which gave us that memorable “Dregs of Humanity” episode (which is really the only thing I remember about it, but that’s enough).
They had a final episode for Derek. His character moves away and he gets to say goodbye to Rick. Thankfully it wasn't one of those situations where the character just vanishes without explanation. Which I think proves there were no hard feelings involved.
I loved Jason Bateman on that show! He was perfect, and they should never have let him go. I watched his show "It's Your Move" (and think I still have a couple episodes on videotape, lol). But unfortunately, it didn't last long. I don't think it caught on or something. But he's always been very talented, even as a kid!
Actually, from what I heard, the demise was the opposite of catching on. The fear was that Bateman's character was so popular on It's Your Move, especially with the Dregs of Humanity episodes, that kids would replicate the antics done on the show. Parents wrote letters to the network. The result was beginning with the 14th episode to the 18th and last episode produced, Bateman's character was caught by his mother and he wasn't allowed to scheme the way he did. The toned down version had the show cancelled. The team behind It's Your Move would launch Married With Children two years later - with David Garrison also appearing on that as Steve Rhoades.
It wasn't because Jason was too popular. It was because he was so much better an actor than Ricky, and it was embarrassing. The new kid who replaced Bateman was a worse actor than Ricky, which made Ricky look better as the star.
Ricky Shroeder wasn't a comedic actor and it showed big time. Zero comedic timing and he just came off so corny. Bateman was out acting him in their scenes together. I remember reading an interview of Ricky saying he was never comfortable doing comedy and it was a sigh of relief when Silver Spoons got cancelled. Alfonso Ribiero was awful on Silver Spoons. Couldn't act worth a lick. By the time Fresh Prince of Bel Air came around, his acting improved drastically and gained comedic timing.
@@RetroJunkie94 You're exactly right. I've seen clips of Ricky on Silver Spoons and he was god-awful. Cute, likable, and charismatic, but a god-awful actor. Jason was an ok dramatic actor on Little House on the Prairie but nothing special. He hit his stride on Silver Spoons and had ALL the right stuff, and it was flat-out embarrassing to have Ricky be so terrible and Jason so good. Alfonso sucked as bad as Ricky as it was more comfortable for everyone.
@@RetroJunkie94 That's why I NEVER found Ricky funny when I was a kid! Drama has always been his strong suit (check out The Champ with Jon Voight for proof of this). Glad he found his niche EVENTUALLY, at least!
I still remember an ep where they were going to do an Ice Cream shop. Derek proposed they combine their two names for the Shop’s name: “Der-Rick’s.” Rick was like, “It would still be named Derrick!!!” Watched the show all the time. All the guys at school started wearing the jelly bracelets when Rick did. 😂 I don’t blame them for wanting to give Erin Grey more airtime though. I did follow Jason Bateman to “It’s Your Move.” I only remember one ep where Bateman creates a fake rock band using skeleton puppets. Not a great show but Bateman’s “Arrested Development” and “Ozarks” are two of the best shows of all time.
His sister was Justine Bateman from Family Ties played as Malarie. I remember him on Little House on the Prairie! He was exactly the Eddie Haskell Character of the 1980's. Erin Grey said once in an interview she missed him when he was gone.
I was a big fan of SS growing up and loved the contrasting characters of Derek & Ricky. Getting rid of Bateman due to popularity was a ridiculous move, but he's had an amazing career. And he continued getting cuter/handsomer as time went on ❤ I remembered all the girls at school watched SS because of Ricky, but I started watching for Joel Higgins 🔥
Schroder once admitted in an interview that his education was poorly maintained. Doing so many projects during his childhood hurt his basically non existent schooling. By the time of Silver Spoons he couldn't read or write or even spell his name. His arithmetic was just as bad and his money had to be managed for him. I'd guess Bateman couldn't even believe what he seeing in Schroder. By the time Sixteen Candels came along studios were hiring teachers for young actors. That film's cast did have school sessions.
I agree. The writers could have kept Derek and just rotated Ricky's friends if they didn't want him taking over. It's always fun to have that real mischievous character in a show, especially when they're funny.
He got his own show It’s Your Move. The characters were pretty much the same. They had great chemistry together as friends. I loved Silver Spoons. I had the biggest crush on Joel Higgins! 😂
Originally they wanted Harry Anderson and got Higgins due to his resemblance to Anderson. As a kid I thought they were the same person, so learning that as an adult was gratifying.
Maybe they were trying to avoid what happened to other sitcoms that got off track when the writers gravitated to break out characters. Like J.J. on Good Times or the Sweathogs on Welcome Back Kotter.
Jason Bateman might have been very busy then working on the movie "Can You Feel Me Dancing" starring his sister Justine wherein their dad Kent Bateman also served as the film's producer.
Very interesting...however it didn't hurt his career as Jason turned into a teen heartthrob later in the 80's, thanks to being on (Valerie/Valerie's Family) The Hogan's Family... ✌️
I honestly don't see any proven malice on the part of the people behind "Silver Spoons" or any injustice committed by them against Jason Bateman. He was on their show from 1982 to 1984. People noticed his rising star potential and offered Jason his own starring sitcom "Its Your Move" during the 1984-1985 season. After it was cancelled, he worked on the 1985 film "Can you Feel Me Dancing ?" starring his sister and produced by their father. Jason landed his part in the sitcom "Valerie" aka "The Hogan Family" during 1986 and the lead in the movie "Teen Wolf Too" during 1987. A very fruitful and productive 4 years after his stint on "Silver Spoons".
I was a fan of SS (about similar age), and gravitated toward the more believable character Bateman portrayed over the goodie-2shoes of Schroder’s. His departure coincided with my interest in the show.
Didn’t the Dukes of Hazzard get rid of Daisy’s car for the same reason? Too many people were admiring her yellow car, so they wrote it out of the show by having Bo and Luke total it during a chase and she ended up with that stupid Jeep.
That’s such a lame excuse!! Too popular?! They really could have kept him. Dumb executives were not representing the primary demographic of this show - preteen/ teen girls!!
I remember John Housman being part of the show…. Rickie asked him what should he call him? Gramps? No! Grumbled Housman’s character, Grandfather… It was a pretty good show…. Too bad it wasn’t on longer
I'm not so sure why they fired him..i like Silver Spoons. They got rid of him. Just because He's too popular and too successful. Foolish reasons to get rid of someone. Shame on those directors and producers. They should've been investigated, sued, and fired. If they got cleared of any wrong doing there's no justice.
@@BlackbirdArtandDesign He was also famous at tbe time for doing Pepsi commercials with Michael Jackson, but later even more famous as Carlton in The Fresh Prince of Bel Air. He also hosted several game shows after that.
All this time and I never knew Jason Bateman was on "Silver Spoons." 🤷🏻♂️ I watched the show occasionally and thought it was just okay. I had previously seen 9-year-old Ricky Schroeder in _The Champ_ with Jon Voight when I was 12.
I watched the show. I think the 1st season was so funny!. LOL!!! If it was to open the door for him to get James Cooper on Little House, then I think it was a good move. I wish that the DVD set was available.
I was under the impression that the Schroeder people, namely, Ricky‘s mother, thought that Jason Bateman was taking too much attention away from her son. That’s the reason that Jason was fired.
@@retrocereal I agree with you. And because he was getting popular, Jason Bateman willingly sought out better career opportunities in various movie and TV projects outside of Silver Spoons. The sitcom Valerie aka The Hogan Family in 1986 and the film sequel Teen Wolf Too in 1987.
@@chazarcola7639 I cannot help but suspect that the above negative comment versus Ricky Schroeder's mother and other representatives may be politically motivated due to his current politics as a Republican actor.
Remember when Family Matters became the Urkle show? Seems as if that could have been avoided the show would have gone in an entirely different direction. This was supposed to be a show about the bond between a father and son.
Getting fired from the show was a blessing in disguise for Jason Bateman. It's your move gave Jason Bateman more visibility. The show is still talked about. After the cancellation of Its your move that lead to Valerie's Family/The Hogan Family. Beyond that he was awesome in "Arrested Development", "Hancock", "Identity Theft". Jason Bateman not only survived by exiting "Silver Spoons". Jason Bateman thrived and is thriving.
This is totally not true. The reason was because Ricky's mother grew jealous of Bateman because he was becoming the star of the show and outshining Ricky. This has been reported since the 1980s. The show was to evolve around Ricky and his mother battled TV heads to axe Bateman.
Very true. I am friends with the cousin of John P Navin and I've heard stories about him and his time as an actor and he said that Ricky had the stage mom from hell, Navin was in a couple season 1 episodes as Ricky's arch-nemesis Ox, and after the taping of his final appearance, the producer took him aside and said that he wasn't going to be invited back because Schroeder's mother felt that he upstaged Ricky and that was a no-no. I've heard that Ricky's mother wasn't a fan of Corky Pigeon either
Bad move to let him go. To popular is a nice problem to have. You go with who is hot not your art. This is T.V. Theres no room for pride. Could you imagine the producers of Family matters saying let's dump Urkil and stay true to the original premise of the show.
great point! and urkil undoubtedly made that show popular though he doesn't exist without the show. so it was nice to see them not get too precious with "my visionnnnnnnnn".
@@chazarcola7639 pride as in, being so stuck on what you are SURE is great, and your 'vision', that you are immune to other ideas, or how your audience receives things, or collaboration, etc. for instance. the original star wars was so great because they let the actors collaborate, change some lines, add some lines, and offer other ideas. if it had remained the original version (often times due to stubbornness/conceit/pridefulness), it wouldn't have been nearly as good or done so well. it's that adage of thinking you are the expert in everything and too good for other's opinions and above even constructive criticism. you actually can remain true to your vision while also taking on constructive crit. (movies, TV, writing, etc). it's how you grow and hone your craft. but a lot of people just get butthurt or refuse any of that. aka: pride.
Just goes to show you that most "Executives" don't know what they are doing. Imagine if they fired Urkel from Family Matters because he was "too popular." First rule is, you give the fans what they want. Period.
Would this be somewhat similar to firing Jaleel White from Family Matters because he became popular? So popular he became the star of the show. If I'm not mistaken, he was originally a throw away character for an episode or so. Boy, did those plans change.😂
Jason wasn’t fired. His character was given a “goodbye” episode. He didn’t just disappear. He was given his own sitcom called It’s Your Move, but it only lasted 1 season.
The show jumped the shark, after they got rid of Jason, and his 2 other friends. They replaced his friend with a black friend, Alfonso ribeiro, the show got worse and worse after that.
After he left, the adults were shoved to the edge of the screen and it was just an extended Tiger Beat magazine spread...and fewer interesting stories...so bad it went to where all shows go to die: Saturday night line up.
Retro Cereal, the first me I remember seeing Jason Bateman was on Little House on the Prairie as James Cooper along with Melissa (née Missy) Francis playing siblings James and Cassandra Cooper whose parents were killed in a wagon accident.
Loved that show So stuck in the 80s. Even now Bateman was great So was It's Your Move Cancelled too soon Bateman and friends Podcast Smartless Possibly forward this video 😄 Jason will appreciate lol
I liked Silver Spoons and It's Your Move. Jason Bateman's character in both shows were similar. They were both manipulating and sneaky and I think he was a bad influence on Ricky(the character), although I'm sure the hijinks would have been funny. Giving him his own shown let him go almost unchecked and was even better than being a mischievous sidekick.
I think it's terrible they let him go. They could have shown another side of Derek...like if Ricky was feeling bad about something...Derek would have been the friend he can turn too. Was It's Your Move a spinoff of Silver Spoons? If they couldn't keep him on Silver Spoons, they should have spun his character off and put him in the time slot under Silver Spoons.
“Being too popular “: Maybe they thought so, he certainly was an outstanding Actor, even then [ having done a season of “Little House “]. But it’s up to the Producers , and directors, writers, etc, to actually give direction to the overall show. Personally I would like to have seen Derek having some serious issues where we could have seen, perhaps some insecurities, and perhaps insight to why he was the way he seemed. But, both actors continued their careers quite well. [ both were good enough to be able to play off of eachother, making for excellent performances from them. But , that’s just my opinion. 📻🙂
I was also a fan of Silver Spoons and was disappointed when his character wasn't on anymore but I followed his career after he left and was glad to see how well he did afterwards. He has had a steady career of being in great shows and movies throughout the years so maybe it was a good thing he was let go.
I was actually a fan of Its Your Move and its cancellation was a big disappointment. During my time in the service in the late 80s, I missed a lot of tv so I never saw The Hogan Family, but I started to be a fan of Jason Bateman through his film career. He’s actually one of a large group of actors doing numerous movies together; Jennifer Aniston, Vince Vaughn, Ben Stiller, Owen Wilson, Kristen Wiig, Bill Hader and JK Simmons have done numerous projects together interchangeably. And Arrested Development is on my list of top 3 sitcoms of all time.
I was crushed when Jason left Silver Spoons. Jason & Ricky worked well as a comedy duo and it's a shame adults got in the way. Total tween crush on both!😍
He was also fired from the short lived television series “It’s Your Move” for ELP Communications/Columbia Pictures Television. The sitcom was from the creators of the Emmy nominated long running hit television series: “Married with Children.” Aired on Fox for eleven years from 1987 until 1997.
Imagine a television show where a woman was an assistant to a man and, not only didn't constantly ridicule and humiliate him, but actually fell in love with him. Such a show could never exist today.
Getting rid of Jason Bateman completely was an unnecessary move. They could have given him freedom to do other work and still make occasional appearances or tweaked his role. Many of us really loved the Derek/Ricky relationship...as a child, I got bored of the Edward /Kate blossoming romance 😅
I've heard a lot about this show. I am friends with John P. Navin Jr's cousin (never met John as he lives in another state but his cousin is a great guy I've known for years so I know way more than anyone needs to know about his career because Jake and John grew up together) who told me that after John's second appearance on the show where he played Ricky's arch-nemesis Ox, he was told from the producer that Ricky's stage mom didn't want him coming back because he got too many laughs in the second appearance and that she felt he upstaged her son (the episode where he takes Ricky to court and pretends to be injured). I've also heard she wasn't fond of Corky Pigeon whose screentime was drastically reduced and eventually phased off the show as well. Jason truly got the last laugh anyways, he's had Ozark and Arrested Development and quite a few successful movies behind his belt while Ricky loves to harass grocery store employees for following guidelines and regurgitates conspiracy theories online when he isn't arrested for abuse. A shame because I used to like the show growing up
Freddy Lippincottleman lol. Yeah, I heard that there was a bit of weird jealousy with the mom. Corky Pigeon was better looking than Rick and had to wear thick glasses to mess up his look. His last episode was Season 4 Episode 12 "Three Musketeers" - After that, it was Rick, Alfonso, and Brad.
Very bad decision! Loved this show when I was a kid. What is the best deal on buying the complete series on physical media? I purchased the first season way back when dvds were really popular.
Jason ended up becoming a really good actor and a long career and still growing strong so it was better for him his life was Evan better for Jason chances for him as a actor Jason if you read this I love all of the shows, movies you have done great work hope you get a lot more parts in both films and shows
They wanted to give him a spin off, but the creator had final say and blocked the show runners from doing it. They made "It's Your Move" in it's place. Which beyond David Garrison as the adult lead, felt like a precursor to Married with Children. As the Spoons and Move show runners later went on to create the only hit the young Fox Network had. I dunno, maybe Tracy Ullman counts
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That speaks more to the lack of creativity of writers and show runners than anything else.
Agreed.
No one said you had to be smart to produce TV shows. Truth is almost everyone in Hollywood is a idiot.
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😂 I know what you mean 😅❤
I never see any of those things. The algorithm gives suggestions based on what you already watch. You're seeing those things because that's what you always click on. Don't click on it and it will go away. Make sure to subscribe to channels that don't show those types of things.
@@nickangelo116yes I turned off the news feed.
mine was retro games, judge Judy and inflation
You too?
Jason Bateman leaving was detrimental to Silver Spoons, because from what I remember, Ricky’s friends were just a group of generic “‘80s kids”, and you didn’t really have a standout character like Derek for Ricky to interact with. But on the other hand, it let Bateman go on to “It’s Your Move”, which gave us that memorable “Dregs of Humanity” episode (which is really the only thing I remember about it, but that’s enough).
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I think they should have Kept Jason Bateman. I think letting someone go just because they’re too popular is bad
They had a final episode for Derek. His character moves away and he gets to say goodbye to Rick. Thankfully it wasn't one of those situations where the character just vanishes without explanation. Which I think proves there were no hard feelings involved.
I remember the episode being pretty real. You saw Derek a different way in that final episode.
@@millenniumman75You mean other than a total shithead? 😜
@@millenniumman75 Yes! I remember that episode. It was sad because Jason Bateman was my favorite actor on the show.
I loved Jason Bateman on that show! He was perfect, and they should never have let him go. I watched his show "It's Your Move" (and think I still have a couple episodes on videotape, lol). But unfortunately, it didn't last long. I don't think it caught on or something. But he's always been very talented, even as a kid!
Actually, from what I heard, the demise was the opposite of catching on. The fear was that Bateman's character was so popular on It's Your Move, especially with the Dregs of Humanity episodes, that kids would replicate the antics done on the show. Parents wrote letters to the network. The result was beginning with the 14th episode to the 18th and last episode produced, Bateman's character was caught by his mother and he wasn't allowed to scheme the way he did. The toned down version had the show cancelled. The team behind It's Your Move would launch Married With Children two years later - with David Garrison also appearing on that as Steve Rhoades.
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It wasn't because Jason was too popular. It was because he was so much better an actor than Ricky, and it was embarrassing. The new kid who replaced Bateman was a worse actor than Ricky, which made Ricky look better as the star.
You should see him do the Carlton dance.
@@dustinolvey8877 he was a better actor by the time he got on that other show
Ricky Shroeder wasn't a comedic actor and it showed big time. Zero comedic timing and he just came off so corny. Bateman was out acting him in their scenes together. I remember reading an interview of Ricky saying he was never comfortable doing comedy and it was a sigh of relief when Silver Spoons got cancelled. Alfonso Ribiero was awful on Silver Spoons. Couldn't act worth a lick. By the time Fresh Prince of Bel Air came around, his acting improved drastically and gained comedic timing.
@@RetroJunkie94 You're exactly right. I've seen clips of Ricky on Silver Spoons and he was god-awful. Cute, likable, and charismatic, but a god-awful actor. Jason was an ok dramatic actor on Little House on the Prairie but nothing special. He hit his stride on Silver Spoons and had ALL the right stuff, and it was flat-out embarrassing to have Ricky be so terrible and Jason so good. Alfonso sucked as bad as Ricky as it was more comfortable for everyone.
@@RetroJunkie94 That's why I NEVER found Ricky funny when I was a kid! Drama has always been his strong suit (check out The Champ with Jon Voight for proof of this). Glad he found his niche EVENTUALLY, at least!
I still remember an ep where they were going to do an Ice Cream shop. Derek proposed they combine their two names for the Shop’s name: “Der-Rick’s.” Rick was like, “It would still be named Derrick!!!”
Watched the show all the time. All the guys at school started wearing the jelly bracelets when Rick did. 😂
I don’t blame them for wanting to give Erin Grey more airtime though.
I did follow Jason Bateman to “It’s Your Move.” I only remember one ep where Bateman creates a fake rock band using skeleton puppets. Not a great show but Bateman’s “Arrested Development” and “Ozarks” are two of the best shows of all time.
Aww dude you must've gotten beat up a lot too.
I've made a huge mistake
His sister was Justine Bateman from Family Ties played as Malarie. I remember him on Little House on the Prairie! He was exactly the Eddie Haskell Character of the 1980's. Erin Grey said once in an interview she missed him when he was gone.
he was so cute and fun a cool kid seemed like hed get along w/ anyone
Gosh how I hated Family Ties, in my country they showed it before The Cosby Show, which was massive, to force the viewers into watching FT…
I was a big fan of SS growing up and loved the contrasting characters of Derek & Ricky. Getting rid of Bateman due to popularity was a ridiculous move, but he's had an amazing career. And he continued getting cuter/handsomer as time went on ❤ I remembered all the girls at school watched SS because of Ricky, but I started watching for Joel Higgins 🔥
I didn't care for the show family ties but I had a childhood crush on Justine Bateman. I mean cmon she waa gorgeous
Schroder once admitted in an interview that his education was poorly maintained. Doing so many projects during his childhood hurt his basically non existent schooling. By the time of Silver Spoons he couldn't read or write or even spell his name. His arithmetic was just as bad and his money had to be managed for him.
I'd guess Bateman couldn't even believe what he seeing in Schroder. By the time Sixteen Candels came along studios were hiring teachers for young actors. That film's cast did have school sessions.
This to me was a springboard for Jason Batemen to be on just about everything even to this day. I've always been a fan.
I love Jason & think he's turned out to be an outstanding actor. He transitioned from child star to adult star seamlessly.
He owned Arrested Development.
I think all worked out great as his amazing career going as strong as ever! Erin Gray one of the all time tv beauties
Indeed on both accounts
Bateman literally stole every scene he was in.. so funny
he still does.
I agree. The writers could have kept Derek and just rotated Ricky's friends if they didn't want him taking over. It's always fun to have that real mischievous character in a show, especially when they're funny.
Great video!!! Thanks ENC. It seems like silly excuse to me being "too popular"
Yeah, it seems a bit silly to me as well
He got his own show It’s Your Move. The characters were pretty much the same. They had great chemistry together as friends. I loved Silver Spoons. I had the biggest crush on Joel Higgins! 😂
Oh did you?
@@retrocereal I did! I thought he was very appealing and great in the role.
Originally they wanted Harry Anderson and got Higgins due to his resemblance to Anderson. As a kid I thought they were the same person, so learning that as an adult was gratifying.
@@SirPumpkinSlice Interesting
Jason was also let go from little house on the Prairie from one season. Season 8.
Maybe they were trying to avoid what happened to other sitcoms that got off track when the writers gravitated to break out characters. Like J.J. on Good Times or the Sweathogs on Welcome Back Kotter.
That seems like something they would consider for sure
I was a big Fan of It's Your Move
I was too. It was kinda a Farris Buler thing. I wish it had lasted longer
Jason Bateman might have been very busy then working on the movie "Can You Feel Me Dancing" starring his sister Justine wherein their dad Kent Bateman also served as the film's producer.
Interesting.
Very interesting...however it didn't hurt his career as Jason turned into a teen heartthrob later in the 80's, thanks to being on (Valerie/Valerie's Family) The Hogan's Family... ✌️
Very true!
And don't forget Teen Wolf, Too.
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Stratton: Derek!
Derek: Mr. Stratton! How'd you know it was me?
Stratton: Derek, if I had known it was you, I wouldn't have answered the door.
Good to hear you again ENC.
Thanks!
I thought Ricky was cute.
But now that I'm older I realize Bateman was cuter. Probably why they got rid of him.
I honestly don't see any proven malice on
the part of the people behind "Silver Spoons" or any injustice committed by them against Jason Bateman. He was on their show from 1982 to 1984. People noticed his rising star potential and offered Jason his own starring sitcom "Its Your Move" during the 1984-1985 season. After it was cancelled, he worked on the 1985 film "Can you Feel Me Dancing ?" starring his sister and produced by their father. Jason landed his part in the sitcom "Valerie" aka "The Hogan Family" during 1986 and the lead in the movie "Teen Wolf Too" during 1987. A very fruitful and productive
4 years after his stint on "Silver Spoons".
Things did trun out well for him for sure
I always thought he left on his own because he was offered It’s Your Move
I thought the very same thing.
I think many people thought that
Its Your Move was an apology for Silver Spoons. They thought he could carry his own show.
I thought the reason why he left cause he acted up ..I was wrong.
It sounds like something he'd put on his resume to explain a hole. "I was just too popular!"
lol!
My man got Roeper'D into a dead end, but who's laughing now!
He do little house before silver spoons or after?
That was before. He played "James". I think it was right before.
I was a fan of SS (about similar age), and gravitated toward the more believable character Bateman portrayed over the goodie-2shoes of Schroder’s. His departure coincided with my interest in the show.
Very interesting!
Me too, he was cuter and funnier to me…
@@retrocereal The show went into first run syndication from 1986-1987 after NBC dropped the show in 1986. 🤗📺📼👍
I was pissed when they got rid of Jason Bateman but I was a kid & never understood until now.
I was not happy about it either
Didn’t the Dukes of Hazzard get rid of Daisy’s car for the same reason?
Too many people were admiring her yellow car, so they wrote it out of the show by having Bo and Luke total it during a chase and she ended up with that stupid Jeep.
If that’s true, it didn’t work. I liked Daisy’s Jeep, and I wanted one when I was old enough to drive!
That’s such a lame excuse!! Too popular?! They really could have kept him. Dumb executives were not representing the primary demographic of this show - preteen/ teen girls!!
I think so too!
There's no validity to any of this. He was offered a main role in a different show
I remember John Housman being part of the show….
Rickie asked him what should he call him?
Gramps?
No! Grumbled Housman’s character, Grandfather…
It was a pretty good show…. Too bad it wasn’t on longer
Cool!!!!!
It set him on a path of success
Yes!
Jason Bateman has made better life and career choices than Ricky Schroeder.
I'm not so sure why they fired him..i like Silver Spoons. They got rid of him. Just because He's too popular and too successful. Foolish reasons to get rid of someone. Shame on those directors and producers. They should've been investigated, sued, and fired. If they got cleared of any wrong doing there's no justice.
I heard that he was just dying to do the critically-acclaimed teen Wolf 2 movie. Shocking how that didn't win an academy award.
LOL!!!
So they remove a character that's "too popular" and replace him with another character that's even MORE popular? (Alfonso Ribiero)
Alfonso was popular, but he was more willing to not one up Ricky unlike Jason!
I remember that name. I remember nothing about the character but the name is very familiar.
@@BlackbirdArtandDesign He was also famous at tbe time for doing Pepsi commercials with Michael Jackson, but later even more famous as Carlton in The Fresh Prince of Bel Air. He also hosted several game shows after that.
When I was a kid we all thought Alfonso broke his neck trying to do the head spin
Fired for being TOO Popular!?! That's Hollywood for ya!
LOL! Yes it is!
It's a wonder Henry Winkler wasn't fired.
Ricky and Jason's mothers were enemies behind the scenes.
All this time and I never knew Jason Bateman was on "Silver Spoons." 🤷🏻♂️ I watched the show occasionally and thought it was just okay. I had previously seen 9-year-old Ricky Schroeder in _The Champ_ with Jon Voight when I was 12.
Great video!
Thanks!
Long time no see ❤
Its been a while since I have done a shorter video for sure!
Erin Grey was a bombshell. Especially on Buck Rogers on NBC.
Totally agree! Remember when they actually made TV shows for straight Boys?
I watched the show. I think the 1st season was so funny!. LOL!!! If it was to open the door for him to get James Cooper on Little House, then I think it was a good move. I wish that the DVD set was available.
I was under the impression that the Schroeder people, namely, Ricky‘s mother, thought that Jason Bateman was taking too much attention away from her son. That’s the reason that Jason was fired.
So it's all poor Ricky Schroeder's fault ??
Are you ultimately blaming him ???
He was getting popular.
@@retrocereal I agree with you.
And because he was getting popular,
Jason Bateman willingly sought out
better career opportunities in various
movie and TV projects outside of Silver Spoons. The sitcom Valerie aka The Hogan Family in 1986 and the film sequel Teen Wolf Too in 1987.
@@chazarcola7639 I cannot help but suspect that the above negative comment versus Ricky Schroeder's mother and other representatives may be politically motivated due to his current politics as a Republican actor.
El era más popular que el protagonista, como Carlton Banks que opacó a Will Smith
Another great video!
Thanks!
I was a HUGE fan of Silver Spoons growing up. It was the having a ridable train IN YOUR HOUSE, that won me over. I mean, what kid wouldn't want that!?
Bateman was a better actor.
He was showing up Ricky who never quite recovered from mouthing other people's dialogue...and he wasnt as funny as Jason.
My brother loved his character! I did too! When he-and the actor who played JT left it wasn’t as good.
Loved Silver Spoons!! Sort of a stupid reason to fire someone but I guess it all worked out for Jason Bateman, he has done well!!
Yes it did!
Remember when Family Matters became the Urkle show? Seems as if that could have been avoided the show would have gone in an entirely different direction. This was supposed to be a show about the bond between a father and son.
Bateman was good at comedy. Schroder was more of a dramatic actor. They were good together.
Excelent video!
Thanks!
I loved watching Silver Spoons.😊
Me too!
Derek was Eddie Haskel times 10
Well done! Great video!
Thanks. Hope to see you and Dave again in August sometime
Getting fired from the show was a blessing in disguise for Jason Bateman. It's your move gave Jason Bateman more visibility. The show is still talked about. After the cancellation of Its your move that lead to Valerie's Family/The Hogan Family. Beyond that he was awesome in "Arrested Development", "Hancock", "Identity Theft". Jason Bateman not only survived by exiting "Silver Spoons". Jason Bateman thrived and is thriving.
Things turnded out well for JB so its all good
Indeed!
This is totally not true. The reason was because Ricky's mother grew jealous of Bateman because he was becoming the star of the show and outshining Ricky. This has been reported since the 1980s. The show was to evolve around Ricky and his mother battled TV heads to axe Bateman.
Very true. I am friends with the cousin of John P Navin and I've heard stories about him and his time as an actor and he said that Ricky had the stage mom from hell, Navin was in a couple season 1 episodes as Ricky's arch-nemesis Ox, and after the taping of his final appearance, the producer took him aside and said that he wasn't going to be invited back because Schroeder's mother felt that he upstaged Ricky and that was a no-no. I've heard that Ricky's mother wasn't a fan of Corky Pigeon either
@@nah....6151 Yes. This is not even new news and has always been reported yet this guy made a fluff video based on his opinion only.
Bad move to let him go. To popular is a nice problem to have. You go with who is hot not your art. This is T.V. Theres no room for pride. Could you imagine the producers of Family matters saying let's dump Urkil and stay true to the original premise of the show.
How did "PRIDE" play any role in
this situation ???
great point! and urkil undoubtedly made that show popular though he doesn't exist without the show. so it was nice to see them not get too precious with "my visionnnnnnnnn".
@@chazarcola7639 pride as in, being so stuck on what you are SURE is great, and your 'vision', that you are immune to other ideas, or how your audience receives things, or collaboration, etc.
for instance. the original star wars was so great because they let the actors collaborate, change some lines, add some lines, and offer other ideas. if it had remained the original version (often times due to stubbornness/conceit/pridefulness), it wouldn't have been nearly as good or done so well.
it's that adage of thinking you are the expert in everything and too good for other's opinions and above even constructive criticism. you actually can remain true to your vision while also taking on constructive crit. (movies, TV, writing, etc). it's how you grow and hone your craft. but a lot of people just get butthurt or refuse any of that. aka: pride.
@@lurklingX
"PRIDE" on the part of whom ???
Ricky was driven and savvy.. and understood the rules of power 😮 Jason wished Ricky well and they remained friends I think
Just goes to show you that most "Executives" don't know what they are doing. Imagine if they fired Urkel from Family Matters because he was "too popular." First rule is, you give the fans what they want. Period.
Would this be somewhat similar to firing Jaleel White from Family Matters because he became popular? So popular he became the star of the show. If I'm not mistaken, he was originally a throw away character for an episode or so. Boy, did those plans change.😂
But they didn't offer Jaleel White
his own starring sitcom apart from Family Matters. Regardless, he chose
to stay on board the original show.
LOL! Yes they did!
In short, Bateman was better than Schroder. And Its Yor Move was a great series. I liked it better than Silver Spoons.
Jason wasn’t fired. His character was given a “goodbye” episode. He didn’t just disappear. He was given his own sitcom called It’s Your Move, but it only lasted 1 season.
The show jumped the shark, after they got rid of Jason, and his 2 other friends. They replaced his friend with a black friend, Alfonso ribeiro, the show got worse and worse after that.
Bateman and schroder look exactly the same as adults. 😂
After he left, the adults were shoved to the edge of the screen and it was just an extended Tiger Beat magazine spread...and fewer interesting stories...so bad it went to where all shows go to die: Saturday night line up.
Retro Cereal, the first me I remember seeing Jason Bateman was on Little House on the Prairie as James Cooper along with Melissa (née Missy) Francis playing siblings James and Cassandra Cooper whose parents were killed in a wagon accident.
Loved that show
So stuck in the 80s. Even now
Bateman was great
So was It's Your Move
Cancelled too soon
Bateman and friends Podcast Smartless
Possibly forward this video 😄
Jason will appreciate lol
That would be cool if they did!
From Derek Taylor to Marty Bryde
I liked Silver Spoons and It's Your Move. Jason Bateman's character in both shows were similar. They were both manipulating and sneaky and I think he was a bad influence on Ricky(the character), although I'm sure the hijinks would have been funny. Giving him his own shown let him go almost unchecked and was even better than being a mischievous sidekick.
I loved Bateman both in Silverspoons and It’s your move.
Two really great sitcoms.
Ill bet anything that the only one who wasn’t upset about this was Alfonso
I think it's terrible they let him go. They could have shown another side of Derek...like if Ricky was feeling bad about something...Derek would have been the friend he can turn too. Was It's Your Move a spinoff of Silver Spoons? If they couldn't keep him on Silver Spoons, they should have spun his character off and put him in the time slot under Silver Spoons.
I dont think it was a spin off. But I'm not sure
It's your move was good.
Why don’t they release the rest of the seasons of Silver Springs I been waiting forever?
Ricky Schroeder is a no talent nobody
A no talent nobody like you ???
Please don't be politically intolerant
if you want others to be tolerant of you.
“Being too popular “:
Maybe they thought so, he certainly was an outstanding Actor, even then [ having done a season of “Little House “].
But it’s up to the Producers , and directors, writers, etc, to actually give direction to the overall show.
Personally I would like to have seen Derek having some serious issues where we could have seen, perhaps some insecurities, and perhaps insight to why he was the way he seemed. But, both actors continued their careers quite well. [ both were good enough to be able to play off of eachother, making for excellent performances from them.
But , that’s just my opinion.
📻🙂
Its a good opinion
I was also a fan of Silver Spoons and was disappointed when his character wasn't on anymore but I followed his career after he left and was glad to see how well he did afterwards. He has had a steady career of being in great shows and movies throughout the years so maybe it was a good thing he was let go.
I was actually a fan of Its Your Move and its cancellation was a big disappointment. During my time in the service in the late 80s, I missed a lot of tv so I never saw The Hogan Family, but I started to be a fan of Jason Bateman through his film career. He’s actually one of a large group of actors doing numerous movies together; Jennifer Aniston, Vince Vaughn, Ben Stiller, Owen Wilson, Kristen Wiig, Bill Hader and JK Simmons have done numerous projects together interchangeably.
And Arrested Development is on my list of top 3 sitcoms of all time.
I was crushed when Jason left Silver Spoons. Jason & Ricky worked well as a comedy duo and it's a shame adults got in the way. Total tween crush on both!😍
It was always obvious why he left imo. He out performed everyone on that show.
He was also fired from the short lived television series “It’s Your Move” for ELP Communications/Columbia Pictures Television.
The sitcom was from the creators of
the Emmy nominated long running
hit television series: “Married
with Children.” Aired on Fox
for eleven years from 1987
until 1997.
Imagine a television show where a woman was an assistant to a man and, not only didn't constantly ridicule and humiliate him, but actually fell in love with him. Such a show could never exist today.
Interesting insight!
Getting rid of Jason Bateman completely was an unnecessary move. They could have given him freedom to do other work and still make occasional appearances or tweaked his role. Many of us really loved the Derek/Ricky relationship...as a child, I got bored of the Edward /Kate blossoming romance 😅
ITHINK THYSHOULD OF KEPT HIM ON THISSHOW IWSH HTISHOWLATEDUTIL 1994
I always liked Jason better than Ricky.
I've heard a lot about this show. I am friends with John P. Navin Jr's cousin (never met John as he lives in another state but his cousin is a great guy I've known for years so I know way more than anyone needs to know about his career because Jake and John grew up together) who told me that after John's second appearance on the show where he played Ricky's arch-nemesis Ox, he was told from the producer that Ricky's stage mom didn't want him coming back because he got too many laughs in the second appearance and that she felt he upstaged her son (the episode where he takes Ricky to court and pretends to be injured). I've also heard she wasn't fond of Corky Pigeon whose screentime was drastically reduced and eventually phased off the show as well.
Jason truly got the last laugh anyways, he's had Ozark and Arrested Development and quite a few successful movies behind his belt while Ricky loves to harass grocery store employees for following guidelines and regurgitates conspiracy theories online when he isn't arrested for abuse. A shame because I used to like the show growing up
Freddy Lippincottleman lol. Yeah, I heard that there was a bit of weird jealousy with the mom. Corky Pigeon was better looking than Rick and had to wear thick glasses to mess up his look. His last episode was Season 4 Episode 12 "Three Musketeers" - After that, it was Rick, Alfonso, and Brad.
I used to watch "It's your move." I always remembered Steve Steve the pet peeve from Married with children.
I loved the show and both characters.
Well done 🎉
Thanks!
Very bad decision! Loved this show when I was a kid.
What is the best deal on buying the complete series on physical media?
I purchased the first season way back when dvds were really popular.
so Bateman could have been Obi-Wan with "It's Your Move"
They could have kept him, all they had to do is cut back on his screen time.
Jason ended up becoming a really good actor and a long career and still growing strong so it was better for him his life was Evan better for Jason chances for him as a actor Jason if you read this I love all of the shows, movies you have done great work hope you get a lot more parts in both films and shows
Seems to have worked out OK for him.
For sure!!!
They wanted to give him a spin off, but the creator had final say and blocked the show runners from doing it. They made "It's Your Move" in it's place. Which beyond David Garrison as the adult lead, felt like a precursor to Married with Children. As the Spoons and Move show runners later went on to create the only hit the young Fox Network had. I dunno, maybe Tracy Ullman counts
It's Your Move was a precursor to Married With Children. It was the same creative team. David Garrison was on both shows.
It's your move? Lol. Never heard of it! .... The dad was none other than : Steve Roades from - Married with Children
David Garrison wasn't Jason Bateman's dad on It's Your Move. He was Caren Kaye's boyfriend. I believe Bateman always referred to him as Norman.
@@Eric-pf3cd That was his name on the show - Norman. He was the foil to Matthew Burton, Jason's character.