Mists of Pandaria Remix Feedback After 40 Hours Played
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- I have some feedback to give on the Mists of Pandaria Remix. Were expectations met? What's good? What's not so good and needs a few tweaks?
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I feel like everyone is forgetting that we had nearly 200% bonus XP from heirlooms and Blizz took that away from us.
But they dont want to talk about that. I was pissed they day they announced it and people said I was overreacting.
I was fucking fuming. It meant nothing. I spent so much gold to level alts all for it to mean nothing.
@@thunder9236 I spent what feels like millions, literally millions of gold on those heirlooms.
In what world was there 200% xp from heirlooms? As I recall, even if you had the 2 rings, the most you could get for bonus xp was like 65%. Still huge, but nowhere near 200%.
yeah, the leveling dont feels faster at all It feels slower to be honest
I’m enjoying questioning again but what I am really enjoying scenarios again. Wish they would bring them back, nice not have long queue waiting on a tank or healer.
I created my character yesterday evening, played for maybe an hour, reached lvl 13, logged off and this morning all my equip (exc. brace) and bags are gone ... I mean seriously? Can@t I log off with out starting from scratch?
In regard to level 70 gearing, my opinion, the best change and easiest win for Blizzard is have gear drop equal to your highest ilvl piece of gear. You can keep the "can only upgrade once all gear is at the same highest level" but only ever seeing 346 (think that's the number) once I'm level 70 as rewards feels terrible and kills motivation knowing leveling up my gear with only bronze will take probably longer than the event will last.
1.) Ordos should be accessible by using the epic cloak toys you obtain from Infinite Power XII. I think that's what was intended from earlier talks, but it's not working
2.) There is a quest in Toweling Steppes that's bugged for most everyone I've talked to. This may seem minor, but it's a campaign quest and Remix achievements are definitely a thing people want to do, and this is making the Townlong quest achievement currently impossible
That's about it. I think Lvl 70 group content was tuned pretty hard initially, but I can confirm that if you can survive the 9 heroic dungeons or the 6 heroic scenarios (or preferably both), you'll find yourself coming in line and even starting to steamroll the initial tuning. It IS harsh at first, but we are infinite
I suspect I know which Townlong Steppes quest you refer to, the one where you must kill a big bug in the gorge between the Steppes and the Dread Wastes - it has been bugged for years, I believe, and the workaround remains the same. It has to something to do with phasing with Dread Wastes. If you quest in the Dread Wastes, the Steppes quest will eventually phase in properly, so the bug in the gorge isn't always dead.
My Remix is fantastic! Saving all of my Bronze for the 38,500 mounts 👍🦋😎🌞 !
I disagree that the higher cloak people will help the lower ones. Instead I foresee it leading to even more insular communities, where even at normal you cannot get a invite if you don't have bonkers stats.
Whaaaaaaaaaaat?! That sounds *NOTHING* like the WoW community! Especially retail 🙃
@JakeSezz oh please. Classic is much worse.
They are already doing frog farmer only groups lol
If you made alts early on, then upgraded the cloak on your main a significant amount, you need to unequip your cloak on your alt then equip it again to update the bonuses on your alts
Thanks so much for that.
Sht i deleted them all and remade them, they were stationed at level 10 sleeping in a inn
doesn't seem to work if you swapped mains (or maybe it just hates me). i'll try again when my priest is 70 probably, but she's got a way better cloak than my mage (unlocked the VI-X achievements, while my mage unlocked the first batch) but unequipping didn't do anything.
good to know. thanks
Thanks for tip on alts.
Scaling at 70 is completely broken atm, i don't feel like farming bronze to upgrade green gear and that's all i'm getting from LFR, i'm doing way less damage than someone lower level and get one shot if i get hit by anything. Meanwhile i did hc dungeons with friends at level 20 and feel the power difference. My low level is more powerful than my level 70 and it's getting blues left and right while leveling. And the worst part is the radio silence from the Blizzard team about what will happen, are they going to ignore feedback yet again or is there a fix on the way? Been keeping an eye on the blue tracker and nothing since before the weekend. Not even a quick post saying they are aware of issues and will need some time to iron it out.
Radeo silence.... it just came out Thursday. Give them time for real.
@@anthonyg1307 But we did, I played the PTR for every single day it was active (3 days)
We gave feedback, they just dont care or didnt play it themselves lol
@@anthonyg1307 they were able to find time to nerf the frogs, buff bronze caches by 25percent and added xp threads to LFR. They could have easily looked at the scaling, honestly that should have been done before any of those three. I have a warrior at lvl61 now and I'm having to face the fact that in an hour or two this character will be broken and not in the fun kind of way.
@@anthonyg1307 They released new content just before the weekend, knowing there might be issues with it. I understand they might need time to fix things, but atleast communicate with us what is happening. I still don't see any blue post about the frog nerf or the bronze caches. Stealth fixes that aren't communicated.
@@SkySharkX2wait can you explain what exactly will break your character?
I feel like their biggest mistake was making bronze the currency for max level progression as well as needing 2 million to buy all cosmetics. Now its like everyone wants to use the bronze to buy limited time cosmetics but you also need to spend a lot of bronze to actually be functional at max level and thats a problem
I’m taking it pretty slow and steady, the Pandaren way. But I already got what I really wanted.
Which was the Phoenix, Kor’kron shaman set, and the amazing Chen’s keg back piece.
Edit: forgot to mention the class sets! That’s my next goal.
Loremaster Cho would approve!
where do you get the chens keg back? achivement or buying for bronze?
@@dmeep krasarang Wilds. Just killed a few rare mobs and flew around.
@@dmeepWoW
Yep, I got some shoulders with a set that on live the only way to get is to grand rep on Timeless isles . I did when it was live, but those reps are not account wide yet, so anything after that is as we say in the south gravy
the fact that you hit such a huge wall at 70, when that should be when you feel most powerful, is proof that the scaling is reallyyyy broken at the max level, or at the lower levels
Frog farm got nerfed, so the old adage of "Exploit early, exploit often" as always still applies"
@@GloomyCandy People were farming it for Charms of Good Fortune, not the bronze... The charms could be turned into the Rep vendors at each faction for an "near infinite" supply of loot chests.
@@GloomyCandy It was insane fro bronze and threads if you were doing it right. People have some insane cloaks now.
It wasn't an exploit
Eh, I'd bet good money on a massive rollback happening in this instance as the power jump was too substantial.
@@wish7028 No one is going to get banned for it.
Don't like it. Leveling is slow. They lied
Absolutely not
@@kaddiloc1 leveling is terribly slow, normal retail is like 4x faster.
@@lolzz338 not in my experience. I agree to disagree.
@@kaddiloc1 Then you've been doing it wrong in retail. With the cloak at the max starting level, the second alt was about as fast as I can level an alt in retail. The first character was much much slower. But at least until level 60-65 it was fun. After that it was just frustration after frustration with the horrible scaling.
Here's my feedback:
I really wanted to completely love this event and although I'm enjoying aspects of it, I wanted it to be a bit 'crazier' than it is.
1) Pet classes are a little screwed. At least my beastmaster hunter never was able to kill things in quite the way others were since it seems the gem effects don't proc off pets. I leveled my hunter to 70 and found I was struggling more than my Rogue.
2) They need to up the spawn on the Rares. Getting the achievements for the Rare kills is very difficult in some zones.
3) There is an issue where the cloak on your alt is fixed at the percentage XP gain when it's created. I leveled a Hunter to 70 and created two alts. I have multiple logins and the achievements are account wide but when I created a character on my Wow1 and then another on Wow2, they had different XP bonuses. One was at 54%% and the other was at 100%. I created the first character before I had gotten the Final Threads Achievement Infinite Power XII and the second character was after I got the Achievement on my Hunter. I unequipped and reequiped the cloak and the bonus changed to 100%.
4) I'm very disappointed that leveling through questing doesn't give better gear. This was touted as an event for those players who like to PVE and that means questing as much as dungeon/raids.
5) The leveling for the most part isn't really faster/better than when I level with Heirlooms, Bonus XP and Rested XP.
The cloak not carrying over is such a fucking blizzard move. It was advertised as being carried over directly, but they decided to cut it.
No it wasn't. Nobody at blizzard ever said that. That came from wowhead and creators posting videos.
They said alts would start with more threads based on your highest level cloak - that's exactly what happens.
Once you get achievement Infinite Power XII your new alts will start with 100% experience and a large amount of stam on cloak. It will go up as you level.
You literally start at 100% XP and then u can run normal + LFR each day and reach ++250% EASILY (12% XP BUFF PER NORMAL BOSS & 7% XP BUFF PER LFR WING) stop complaining
Was it? I don't think it was. That was an assumption content creators made, i think.
The cloak is the broken part. You were an actual crazy person if you thought it would carry over
I'm lvl 30 after 5 hours. Jade forest is not fun to level imo plus leveling isn't faster than going for timewalking dungs leveling on retail. I don't like it right now but still gonna play because of mounts. Advertising this with words like "Overpowered?" Literally on battle net launcher? I don't see it
My biggest critique is the lack of clear communication from blizzard about the cloak and how it works. The event has been fun but it feels like certain things were oversold.
What are you going on about XD it’s simple, kill things, do quests, get random incremental buffs
blizzard and communication is something that will never work. never
@@manemperorofmankind8119He's talking about it not working like on PTR, some stats are per character and don't move to alts like %XP gains from raids
@@manemperorofmankind8119how do you upgrade it though with the upgrade vendor?
@@JizzyNinja no you just put it on and let it evolve, eventually you will unlock the old legendary cloak cosmetics which I can’t wait for.
Its nothing like what was advertised. The cloak is not shared a crossed characters and is capped on xp for alts. The gameplay is the same as live realms. All the cog effects are just like trinket procs. When they happen, mobs die but when they don’t they take an age to kill due to the terrible scaling.
Yup i expected an evergrowing cloak as a kind of account buff across all characters. Making each alt level faster and do more damage while buffing the 70s as well.
I'd even planned for 5 character to level before i started farming..Figuring the 5 70s would gurantee enough stats to gurantee some great farming time/no issues.
As is..I'll level one probably slog through some stuff to try and at least be able to do SoO as all i really want are the garrosh heirlooms now.
I dont mind the tinker procs. We get a ton of slots so it feels like _at least_ one is proccing every few seconds.
The scaling at 70, however, is the exact opposite of the overpowered experience they’ve been advertising…
They never advertised that. Ever.
They said your cloak on alts would get a head-start based on the progress on your main. that's exactly what you get. Blame the creators and wowhead who made up how they thought it would work and posted it as gospel.
Fake news
@@daniellucas5522 "In addition power you earn under your cloaks strongest character is also shared with alternative characters created for the event making leveling even faster." from an offical wow video blizz put out
They have to address high-level scaling and improve the cloak for alts immediately. Additionally, they should consider applying the XP bonus to Bronze as well.
100% agree with the bronze catchup mech but the exp is fine. It carries over a 100% buff which gets you to 25 in less than an hour. Then you do the raids on normal when you hit that level req and boom, lvl 70 in a few hours. Doesn't even take the full day.
@@TheBulge Still much slower than just leveling normally on retail, no reason they shouldn't have the exp carry over to alts.
@@ShimoKuma go back to powerleveling on Retail then and shut up. i dont want to hit level cap in 4 1/2 hours, if i wanted that i'd do the meta, this is for fun and unlockables, and if you can only have fun at max level, you have issues for the tissues.
"I want everything for free nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow"
How in the world are you solo farming raid trash?!
Good til 60, thats about it
Gear upgrades should have been separate resource to bronze.
Also, if you didn't exploit the frogs you are basically being punished at this point, you are essentially months behind those people doing 1.5mil dps in raids
and that doesn't factor the amount of rewards they've already bought from the vendors.
A modifier they need to add as a thread should be +bronze%
Overall I'm very underwhelmed. Leveling an alt in a mid expansion for a few heirlooms that dont give XP buffs anymore and a handful of cosmetics.... meeeeeh..... Im lvl 18 so far but idk if ill keep going.
Conservative design in modes designed for fun is the death of all wows good ideas. Having to repeat achieves for necks/rings/trinkets, absurd prices for upgrading gear at 70, borked scaling blocking heroic farm, non transfer of thread stats. Hamstringing the content early then having to hotfix it to death turns away so many people that are interested in giving "one more chance"
The overall scaling has been hot garbage, we generally get weaker as we leveled not stronger which is weird
The max lvl cloak achievement being so extremely low and granting not nearly enough exp% is so sad, double the achievement potential such that exp gain goes way way higher like I said.
The frog nerf was correct, but there was no meaningful buff. Normal bronze rate needs doubling while general thread drop rate x4 at max lvl or something
Just about to ding 70 this evening, and I've been enjoying it. Not stressing the raids or a lot of the gear, but my focus is more mount oriented, and I'm at about 38,500 bronze at the moment. I have only been doing quests though with a couple scenarios and one dungeon, so i'm not doing all I can right now and that's fine. I'm enjoying it though, and at the end of this I don't get everything, no stressing it.
I am however hoping more is done about the cloak on alts because I was looking forward to the boost in leveling, but I've also seen some people mention it is working on some of their alts after getting certain achievs, so we'll see when/if I get there. :D
Having fun and that's all I really care about if I'm honest.
Exactly what I thought. I care about mounts and lvling some alts. I don’t give rats ass about end game stuff 😂 MoP remix was all about transmog/mount farming and lvling alts not end game progression in my opinion
I pretty much went into this for just the transmogs/mounts/toys/pets, so just working with what gear drops happen has been working fine for me. I'm not planning on doing any group stuff because with my work schedule, I'm often on when most others aren't on my server so grouping's tends to be an issue. My current concern is the mini mana bomb toy that was supposed to be a buy item from Horos isn't listing in his vendor offerings. There's been no word on if you have to do the Theramore scenario instead or not, so I'm hoping it gets fixed or something's said when they do the maintenance.
Something that was supposed to be a fun "speedrunny" way of playing through old/irrelevant content into a slow, poor scaling grind that once again proved that it is better to "Exploit early, exploit often" or be left in the dirt.
wise words, i hope blizzard check this out, they really have to reconsider what they have done with the exp on alt, all stats should go to the alts and if not at least a percentage so you can stack on main and still obtain something for alts.
Blizzard please fix this.
I dont like that the cloak doesnt 1:1 transfer to alts. I dont like that once a character hits 70, they get a trink, that your Alt can NOT get without getting 70. Or, completing the meta ach for the rings etc, they are also NOT accesable on another character that didnt get that ach. This was a BIG L to me as this event was lead to believe what you got on your main, your alts would get access too...ala in vein of what we are SUPPOSED to get in War Within.
I think its just miscommunication in terms of expectations, I entered thinking i would be op super strong. And reality is that my char is strong but not super noticeable particularly compared to leveling on retail where you honestly feel stronger than MOP remix. I really hope they fix it and just let us be over powered cause MOP remix is fun but it can be so much better
I think your first 70 should lock in a base 100% xp buff for your alts. Then your second 70 locks in a base 200% xp buff, and then finally 300% after your third 70. Any alt can still gain threads above the base, up to idk, 350-400%.
Leveling my first toon felt as it did when MoP was current and that was with hitting 100% XP at the very end. In other words, it felt slow. You then need so much bronze to buy things it feels like a massive grind. Getting 30k while leveling when you need over a million just to upgrade gear feels terrible. In the interview with Blizzard on this very channel, they said 2 hours to get 5k bronze and 30k from mythic SoO. To get everything off the vendor, you need over 17k a day for 95 days assuming you dont get consumables or upgrade gear. That's mythic SoO at least 54 times or potentially 24 hours a week of farming frogs, possibly up to 40 hours or more if you throw in gear upgrades, too. Who wants to run mythic SoO 54 times? Or farm frogs for 40 hours? Same interview said to spend bronze to upgrade gear while leveling because it's so common, but when you need like a million bronze to upgrade gear if you get unlucky with drops, that's a waste of bronze. It's a toss up between upgrading gear or mounts/transmog. On top of that, the gear iLvL we aren't keeping in TWW so upgrading the gear feels pointless. We're also so squishy that getting one shot is demoralizing. I got kicked from a dungeon as a resto shaman because I couldn't keep the tank up, yet it was my fault, not scaling. I nearly saw another healer get the same fate later but avoided it when the vote failed. I helped out healing after that and we finished. The cloak is also a massive lie and nothing like we were told. You have to level one toon to 70 to remotely feel semi OP on the next one only for scaling to smack you again later. I feel like I was duped as the event doesn't feel fun and only feels like a grind. Its not MoP Remix. It's Frog or SoO Remix. I was optimistic originally, but now I'm already burning out. The grind feels like another slog like Plunderstorm. I would have rathered a repeat of the Legion invasions over this crap.
"I want EVERYTHING nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow"
Children . . .
Lol you spent more time typing this than good players spent getting to 70
raid finder does not give xp bonus...you are forced to do normal difficulty raid for that
After level 65 things does scale a little out of control. They need tweaking on a lot of things for sure. I did a dungeons where I was spam healing the tank since his life was bouncing from 100% down to 10%
I was probably that tank lmfao. Been enjoying my scarlet monk on a pilgrimage larp.
Tank issue
After the frogs nerf the rewards feel unavailable. In addition everyone who exploited frogs are like 1-2 weeks ahead of everyone else. End game is basically broken because of it.
More like a month ahead people are already at 556 on everything
Once again, Blizzard has a great idea with zero idea how to implement.
I have a hard time justifying upgrading any gear because I need the bronze for mounts and transmogs. I think it should have been a separate currency. Making it cost less bronze doesn't change the equation - I need so much bronze for the mounts and appearances that I can't afford to spend any on gear upgrades. That kind of sucks.
This is my main complaint as well. Well, that and rares getting one-shot before others have a chance to tag. I don't mind the slow leveling, because to me it doesn't feel slow at all, coming from vanilla ^.^
Upgrading gear is far too expensive.
It’s not what it said on the tin…. I don’t think it will be a big hit, most will check out in a week or two when they realise the grind, repeatable grind.
Yeah, tanking in the mop remix has been interesting. First boss in scarlet one shot me doing 500k damage, 800k absorbed, 3 million overkill lol. Still fun though.
Biggest problem ive been having is bugged quests especially in townlong steppes
Yup my biggest critique is the experience . I wanted to do this to level alts
Yeah this was horrible,what we were led to believe was completely different. Retail leveling is way more fast than this.
As a first draft for these more limited time fun/cosmetic/alt modes, I think it's great.
It has *many* flaws and poor design decisions, but that's inevitable with a small team and a new format. Hopefully the cloak goes fully account-wide, bronze/thread drops from real content get buffed, and scaling at 70 is made less absurd. It's not much fun to hit 70 and feel like a limp dick until you farm frogs for 4 hours, without much recourse otherwise since 5mans are so overtuned.
Can you run 5 mans with disparate levels among players? I finally got a group of folks starting up this weekend. If I’m 37, and they’re in their teens, can we group up and run some dungeons together?
Yes!
3:52 I feel the same way, I'm in the process of leveling a new character and while it is moving it feels clunky. Should be fluid across questing, dungeons, and raids. I assumed that we were going get speedy buffs to level fast while enjoying WoW Remix: Mists of Pandaria. It is still fun, but I feel, it could use some tuning. Also, getting bronze feels like a chore more then something that comes naturally. I wish they would increase the amount of bronze we get or lower the required amount for sets and mounts and toys. You look at how bronze is needed for a specific mount for example, and you almost feel defeated before you even start. Overall experience has been fun - I hope they take the feedback genuine and do some tuning.
There definitely feels like a bit of a bait-and-switch with the cloak across alts. They may never have stated specifically that alt cloaks were open ended, it was heavily, and purposefully, implied.
Also, the scaling at high levels is just inexcusable at this point. There is no reason why my level 30 toon should be just plowing through whole grouos of mobs that would oneshot my lvl 70 toon. That is bananas.
I want to keep all my cloak stats and i don't want low levels to destroy high levels is mutually exclusive. If you think its bad now imagine if a level 10 had literally thousands of main and secondary stats. Cloak is mostly fine, maybe keep all the exp (would be some really weird stuff once you had so much exp you'd outlevel gear too fast) but other than that cloak is ok-ish. Scalling feels terrible because bronze upgrade cost is way way way too high up till 346, and way way too high past that.
When I hit max level I became way weaker. I can no longer even do normal scenarios without being one shot.
honestly the lower exp multiplier hasn't been a big problem for me mostly because;
Why would I want to level up? Being level 10 as a tank or healer is the strongest you'll ever be! It's all down hill from there.
Yea, it’s fun. Not what was advertised. It feels more like MoP classic with changes to gearing. The gems are cool. It’s not a total fail and I will level a couple of characters in it, but it’s not an overpowered leveling system to get an alt army ready for War Within like it was allowed to be advertised as. I’m kinda glad I’ve not preordered WW yet. Who knows what they allow you guys to tell us that they change in the last minute to sell more character boosts.
"What they allow you guys to tell us"
That's mad copium dude. Blizzard doesn't have control over what creators post. The fact that a bunch of creators posted their take of what they thought this event should be like does not reflect on Blizzard in any way. Blame the people who told you the lies.
@@daniellucas5522 I see your point. Blizzard had no idea that all their content creators would be testing this a month ahead of the event. Blizzard couldn’t control what the CCs were telling us to hype the event and create more subs. I mean, just because blizzard alluded that this was going to be an overpowered super leveling event and then all these CC’s shared their testing experience that it was in fact that. Blizzard can’t be blamed for a total stealth nerf last second. It is the cc’s fault and ours for watching the video. I get it now.
I got to lv 32 and quit- its just boring to me.... its slow and boring. Maybe because I dont have any fond memories of my time in mop lol I was one of the few that hated pandas and how they ruin the game making it cute... but idk it just doesn't feel fun.. its slow and tbh i level faster in retail lol like ALOT faster in retail.
I only hit 70 with my first character as of last night of me posting this comment and, lemme tell ya now, I am getting ONE-SHOT by a plethora of mobs (not all of them, but it's weird how randomly normal mobs will sometimes hit for insanely harder than elites) out in the open world while questing. Whether it was Krasarang Wilds, Townlong Steppes, etc, I had to pray to RNGesus for all my tinkers to proc to kill mobs if I pull more than I intend to or else I was guaranteed dead.
I may be a mage but there's a distinction to be had between playing a glass cannon and being made of a thin layer of dust blowing away like I got Thanos-snapped. I did NOT participate in any of the exploits, just questing with very very rare dungeons/scenarios, and a couple of LFR wings.
I am not at all looking forward to future alts until Blizzard make a clearly-worded post about how they plan to address scaling and rewards being earned. Until then, I am going to finish the full campaign experience and just focus on grinding bronze for buying mounts (I finally bought the Nalak dragon drop, which used up every single bronze I had saved up until this point......and I have so many left to go).
To max out all gear slots from 346 ilvl, you need 577,950 bronze. Considering this, 30k bronze per day feels pretty slow for doing siege of orgrimmar daily, which isnt an insignificant time investment. Maybe I'll think differently after a couple weeks, but I think they could increase the amount of bronze you get from other sources in the game.
I don't care so much about the XP bonus. I have leveled alts already. I do care that I hit L70 and don't feel powerful in any sort of way. World content, mobs scaled to the point, it's taking just as long to get something done as it did at L20. H dungeons, as mentioned, the scaling for lower level chars allows them to do way more of the lifting. You almost feel like you're being carried. Using my cosmetic currency to buy power (upgrade gear) feels terrible considering the upgrade prices. May have just misunderstood what Remix was going to be, but I was expecting being laughably over powered by L70. Putting of wacky fun numbers. Soloing stuff you wouldn't normally be able to. That hasn't been the case so far. It's feeling sloggishly grindy and that doesnt appeal to me at all.
I really hope it does get better soon. As it is, my 70 druid does NOT feel powerful. I get one-shot constantly, my damage is awful, and getting bronze is more hellish slog than pleasurable grind. Leveling DEFINITELY doesn’t feeling like running. There are broken and bugged quests all over the place, including main story quests. It’s a half-baked mess at the moment, made worse by the clear potential for awesomeness that is there.
Trying to tank at 70 is badly broken. Scaling is way way off. Bronze . Considering how much bronze is needed to buy gear mounts toys mogs......bronze rewards are also broken.
I have done 2 timerunners to lvl 70( yes im nuts , but in my defence im away for 2 weeks so rushed these two), my first has 133% exp buff on cloak, my second when he got to lvl 60 seems to have capped at 200% , I thought this experience buff was going higher. Or did they change something?
frogs nerfed.
goats nerfed.
getting onehit in heroic dungeons as dh tank with 346 gear and all legendary gems.
getting fucked by blizzard for questing early, now everyone gets 25% more bronze.
exploiters won again, soloing heroic raids.
scaling is complete shit with 70. do your heroic dungeon and heroic scenarios before lvl 60 for trinket and ring.
Love the cloak. Honestly, I wish they would do a raid like this in an xpac. Where you grow during the raid by looting mobs/bosses. Something is wrong with the scaling. My resto druid is level 31ish and when I have to heal a 70 or someone 60+ they are getting absolutely trucked in dungeons. When I heal a 15, they don't even get touched. I just think something is off with the math. It's not like this with scaling outside of the remix.
EXP is really not a problem after get all the cloaks achieves for nexts alts. The biggest problem here is the lvl 60 tunning, all mobs begun to get hard to kill without gem procs, and when you reach 70, the fun is over, mobs hit like trucks and our damage begin to suck. Doing solo scenarios are almost impossible, the fun is over. If you want to do others achieves I feel like I NEED to do another alt to complete then...
I have quest leveled 3 characters to 70, and the 1st was the longest to level by far. The second took half the time, and my 3rd only took 9 hours. Every alt ended up with a higher xp bonus on thier cloak then the one before them. But all started at 100. My 3rd ended with 176% only questing.
After reading through Twitter (sorry X), and other social media. I feel people are approaching this the wrong way. Well, I dont want to say the wrong way, as it is people own choice. People should enjoy it for what it is, a 90+ day event, to try and break the game and/or do crazy stuff and get transmogs, mounts, pets and toys on the way.
Just learned your alt doesn't even get the achievement-rings and trinkets. Not the full cloak-stats from your main. Levelling takes twice the time it does in normal Chromie Time. Gem-System takes up half your playtime. Scaling as usual completely fucked. Play it for the mounts; ignore it if you just want to level alts fast.
Maybe this event isn't for those people who level quickly anyway. Maybe this event is for people who can't power level no matter how they try. They don't want to run dungeons or raids, but just do the leveling faster. This event is awesome for me. I have leveled up to 54 in 2 days, where I would be lucky to hit 10 levels. This has been really fun for me and I've just been leveling while completing the achievements. I haven't spent bronze yet.
It’s crazy to me that the people at maxed out level had to farm for what 13 straight hours to get there? And then blizzard nerfs it and offers nothing in return? It was easily 10x faster than anything else. Do they want us to farm for 130 hours in a 95 day event to be at max power? Is that the goal? Because that’s fucking awful. Blizzard can not stop shooting themselves in the foot.
Another problem with remix, is the fact that a large majority of the rewards (which happen to be the transmog ensembles) are completely bugged. Not sure what I or the collecting community is expecting especially when this has been a problem since ensembles were introduced to the game (it's been over 5-6 years by now) and it has never been addressed.
The problem with is these ensembles in some cases have removed from game source IDs or in other cases contain the transmogs from MoP Scenarios on live retail servers. There's literally thousands of items from these MoP Scenarios and the only way currently to get them is opening 2 boxes from 2 quests that are only completable once per character.
It's a big problem that likely will not be addressed, but is worth mentioning and taking note as a mega failure of the event.
They should start firing the fail woke blizz team for their decades long incompetence. This is a premium pay to play game and one should expect quality and that simply isn't the case. Remix scaling is so bad that this alone destroys any initial fun I had. People are already over being used as beta testers because companies are thinking more about their bottom line than the customer. Why is scaling broken? Try doing the last 3 heroic dungeons (highest level required) and you will find it nearly impossible. Getting 1 shot, trash mobs harder to clear than bosses. Bosses glitch causing wipes, a level 14 noob out dpsing a level 70 by a lot (no not a 2nd toon with boosted cloak btw) and the constant grind will make people burnt out when the next xpac launches. The list goes on but I digress. If your a company who insists on the old school grind, who insists on dangling a carrot in front of your intelligent customer base, who insists a square peg fits in a round hole - basically insulting said customer intelligence, you will be in for a rude awakening down the road.
I think it's bullshit they killed the frog farm. Maybe they should've capped it? There should of been a different currency to upgrade gear so they didn't compete, and you should've been able to buy the specific tinkers, cogs, and gems you want, even trade in ones you don't.
Slower leveling than running Timewalking dungeons, so a fail at XP.. the cosmetics and gems are fun, but it's certainly not as advertised by Blizzard themselves..
I have spent zero bronze so far, highest toon at 63, only doing this for Heritage unlocks and transmogs. The cloak thing is a kick in the balls, this is a glorified alternative leveling system, it should be fast, fun, and available to everyone not just no life exploiters.
Again a half decent idea that was Blizzaded.
Cloak is terrible, it’s impossible to run heroics consistently, raid finder is dead. Some classes are grossly overpowered (shadow preist) we are punished for being level 70 as we do less damage, take more damage, are less likely to be picked for anything. I got the exclusive mounts, dark Shaman and refuse to play it now
I'm pretty concerned with how little bronze we get before raiding on heroic-mythic difficulties. We need an immense amount of bronze to upgrade our gear *and* get all of the unlockable cosmetics and rewards - but there isn't actually a good way to get bronze that doesn't involve a monotonous grind now.
And then they nerfed the frog farm! So now we *don't* have a good way to get bronze anymore, making acquisition take far longer in a temporary event.
Remix feels like it's all about the cosmetics, which is fine, but when it was marketed by... Well, everyone as a fast way to level up at the end of an expansion, it missed the mark. I think everyone knew that the first character made was going to be a little bit slower in the levelling department, but having 2 70s already and working on my third, one would expect to be flying through levels and that really isn't the case.
No one tested this. There is no way they tested this and said its fine.
I upgraded my gear at max lvl to 372 with all the bronze i got so far, got 2 rings and 2 trinkets, have all the right tinker gems and dungeons and scenarios still feel like they take forever. Unless there is a lvl 12 character in the group doing 8x more damage then everybody else combined. The cloak is the biggest dissapointment so far. Most of the stats don't even transfer to your alts. And threads you collect on your alts seem to not increase your mains cloak stats. Not 100% on this, need to test this again.
Is there a way to redistrubute the stats from your cloak? Im around lvl 30 and my RNG is crap my stamina is around 80 and everything else is in the 10's. And Im a mage.
Its unbalanced and buggy as fuck, scaling is whack - been having an absolute blast with my guildies. we have spent hours so far in dungeons/raids/scenarios bullshitting in discord and just having fun. I think that a lot of the criticism is warranted but holy fuck people need to shut the fuck up and chill
I got to the point where I felt why should I spend all this time for a toon I can’t take with me into retail right now. It’s limited dungeons with cheesey gems.
I also don’t like the gearing experience. It’s clunky and feels like a mobile game.
SoD showed players how vintage wow had the sparkle that inspired millions of players
I was hoping this would feel like classic + retail to focus on questing and exploring the world.
It just doesn’t make sense to me.
Panda remix blows. I thought it was going to be like other leveling events that you plow through levels to be ready for the next expansion but it takes more than 20+ hours to level to 70 and on-top of that questing is the faster way to level really? Just put an in game event like legion assaults or something you just level super fast. plunder storm was miles ahead of this you log in and you battle and move on . Panda remix is horrible change my mind.
"Really big hit with fans"... "level a bunch of alt"... "mow down hordes of bad guys".... thats a fucking lie lmao
Things are definitely a bit scuffed atm , levels 10-30 are way to slow imo but I’m happy blizz trying new things
The main things I would like to see changed are the required unlocks for 5 gear slots, just have those start dropping at different level breaks. The power level isn't so high that you don't miss having gear in those slots, and might be why some of the scaling is so weird. Or at least lower the unlocks to normal dungeons and lfr.
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That said I agree with your comments about Blizzard misleading the community regarding how the XP aspects of the event would work. Across the board there was a general sense that the cloak was account-wide and that gains would be shared. This obviously isn’t how it went in the live game, but it’s still a disconnect with the player base that could have been avoided through better communication from Blizzard.
I seriously love this mode... I am tired of seeing the Asian theme but thank God i can turn off the voice acting... AS for easy wins... NO. As a healer, DPS continue to die faster than I can get an instant cast off...
40 hours already? damn, i'm only about 16 hours in, been having to keep up on Gold WQs and it has cost me some time, should be able to make up that lost time tomorrow though. in any case i am level 40 and doing pretty great on Prismatic Gems (Epics atm) cant wait to max those out.
“They’re going to be the spear that helps people,” uhm ideally yes but really they’ve just declined anyone without a similar cloak level. They want all OP players, not one OP player to carry the other 4
dude wtf,,,, this might be one of the most fucked up thing done by Blizzard.... everything is wrong at the end.. lol
Scaling solution is easy. Only allow lvl 70 characters to join HC dungeons and scenarios. Nobody will complain about weird scaling on normal
I was able to level a character from 10 to 70 on around a day just doing campaign quests. How is that slow for people...?
Why is raiding such shit exp? What is even the point of raids in its current iteration? I ran two available to me thinking they're get me a level or two. Just doing half a dozen quests gets you infinitely more rewards in the same/less time lol.
you should check out that asmongold vid of the frog farming shadow priest who basically solos everything in a siege of orgrimmar raid while the rest of the raid just tickles the bosses too. there's also a fight where literally every other raid member dies and he has to tank the boss for a while (not long, because he kills any boss in half a minute anyway) and his health bar doesn't even move. shit is crazy busted
I’m level 23 I feel disappointed this feels so grindy don’t get me wrong would bother me less but I just now feel like it’s another have to do versus enjoyment. I just want the mounts could care less about the rest. But nooo
They need to fix Ordos being inaccessible, add back the mini mana bomb toy, fix the Isle of thunder campaign scenario to the skies.
It's very fun. That why we play, right? Kinda was mad at the froggers, but they're carrying dungeons every day, and I am enjoying that!
What about how the raid lockouts work? I was in a group in ToT that disbanded after the 1st boss. That locked me out for the day not being able to join another group to finish the raid. Why these raid ids dont work like in modern wow where you can continue with another group until you finish and you can even kill the bosses that you killed prior but not get the loot?
I haven't had the time to try MoP Remix yet. I hope Blizz will have fixed the scaling by the time I jump in.
I've recently returned to wow after like 10 years away... I feel that leveling is way too fast, I liked the bit slower pace in the older days tbh. 😅
The event is called timeRUNNING. But you level slower than timeWALKING in retail
i'm actually very disappointed that we can't go to 300% exp on the cloak it does not have to be unlimited exp i would be fine if the cap was 300%
Raid finder does not give hardly any XP. And this is no where near the XP they promised. This is slower than current retail farm leveling. This is no where near what was promised.
Biggest issue atm is scaling, the fact that leveling past 66 feels like an active detriment is probably about the worst feeling you can have in a video game, and watching tanks in heroics getting clapped like its tbc isnt exactly a good thing