Kool Herc has been so comfortable with the lie about the creation of Hip-Hop his present day minions have ran with that but the Documentary "Microphone Check" has brought clarity.
Great video. Colon takes pride in trying to show up black americans in a culture we created. If there is a hint of someone other than FBAs making strides in hip hop, he never hesitate to highlight them. He loves poking the bear.
@@randee4550Why are you mentioning chase in the same sentence with herc, bam, and flash?? When he didn't get down with Hip Hop until the late 70's?? Inquiring FBA minds would like to know 🤭. Herc didn't invite ricans to his parties and flash said y'all came along later on, but you're still name dropping them eventhough they're really didn't have anything to do with your kind 🤣
Let me get this right! So Herk came to America with no sound system, no slang, didnt know how to dress to the point he was made fun of, started dressing like Disco King Mario, didnt rap,went to dj Pete Browns party and heard the music he played, saw bboys dancing, took from Dj browns play list then went and started hip hop? Monkey s..t!!!!!!
Where does Herc say ever that he went to Pete jones parties? You’re lying to try and sound like your arguement is right. Herc created hip hop with the merry go round. Point blank period.
Stop lieing herc came here as a child. You want us to believe he brought the genre with him. All the elements were going on before herc. I'll give him creating or morphing the term hip hop.
@@solarscience5815 What was the name of the DJ he got the list from? Jones or Brown?I heard him say it out of his own mouth! And he said he saw B Boys at the party that he later played the list for when he had his party! Our elders listened to these brake beats and dances to them! That's our culture idiot! Slang, fashion, rapping, speakers outside, and dancing on the floor was what we did!! Herc extending a break didn't start our culture! If he extended an instrumental part of reggae you would think nothing of it! HERC CAME INTO BLACK AMERICAN CULTURE!!!!
@@toniemaurice9150 Herc didn't create the term Hip Hop! Cowboy from the Furious five did!!! And Herc also said out of his own mouth that the guys in Brooklyn had the systems before him!
Slave hymns begot church gospel, church gospel begot the blues, the blues begot, classic jazz, classic jazz begot Rhythm n blues(and simultaneously,rock n roll), rhythm and blues begot Funk and Hip-hop.....hip hop has its roots and genesis in black, so-called American culture!!
@randee4550 There's no such thing as a latin breakdown, and descarga has absolutely nothing to do with Puerto Ricans, that's an Afro cuban thing that was influenced by Black Americans. Now show me the Puerto Rican influences in our music, I DARE YOU 😂😂😂😂.
Colon deleted all of the comments that I made to that video! He definitely did not like my reply to 'Randee', who lied and said that most of the people at Herc's 73 party was Jamaican! Not only did I address that, but I asked him, 'what does Herc being Caribbean have to do with any 50/50 claims, or how does Herc being the 'creator', put Puerto Ricans on the map???
@AKiEM. That's not the only reason he blocked me. Randee was continuously disrespecting me and when I brought it to Colon's attention he would ignore it. The last time Randee did it, Colon thought it would be a good idea to join in with Randee and start calling me a man, both knowing that I'm a female! Colon also knows that my husband was a Panther and an original Black Spade! He is also in the Martial Arts Hall of Fame! Of course, when I went off on them,Randee STFU and Colon tried to back pedal , and act brand new. I told him too late! He knows what that means! I told him it doesn't matter if he blocks me, deletes anything, like he always does, I have screenshot and saved everything! He's a coward, amongst other things! After all that, he had the nerve to want to have conversation, but I know the real reason he wants to chat is because he wanted to interview me about what I know pertaining to the Hip Hop, but I never would! He had the audacity to try and use the rouse by telling me to call him so that way it would prove I'm a female!
Facts💯..... Colon is a hypocrite and a coward. He's a weakling who can't handle any type of pushback that destroys the false narratives he pushes. He only blocks Black folks but claims they're trolling to justify his weak actions. Meanwhile, ran dee is using multiple troll accounts like loubang100 and suntek7 to spew all types of racist rhetoric on colon's channel. Make it make sense 🤦🏽♂️
I'm an OG from the Bronx. Early Hip Hop Djs learned about equipment from Disco King Mario, Grand Master Flowers. Pete DJ Jones etc.Pete DJ Jones was much older then Bam, Herc & Flash he is the one who showed Flash how to hook up equipment.Even today Flash is on instagram saying Jones mentored him. Everyone in NYC knew Disco King Mario & Pete DJ Jones had the best systems. And passed their knowledge. All the early Dj's before Flash, Herc and Bam played Clubs and Restaurants and brought Sound Systems from Sam ASH not from Jamaica. Kids where to young to go to clubs so we just took the speakers outside and used whatever we had. They would borrow the older Djs Equipment from time to time Bam and Flash always said this. It had nothing to do with Jamaican Sound Clash Systems. If you ever look at old Hip Hop systems the speakers are never stacked like mountains its just the normal Cerwin Vega or Bose etc. speaker from the 70's, the same in US clubs. Jamaican Systems focus on the Super heavy Bass while American Dj systems focused on Clarity. Just listen to the older music your ears won't lie to you.
I grew up watching DJs play in parks and clubs. I never saw an American Dj use a crayon to mark where to find a break beat on their records like Flash did.
I lived in the Bronx until 1970 and then I moved to Manhattan. No one was listening to Jamaican music. Black culture like Motown and James Brown was prominent in NYC. There were big sound systems all over NYC and especially in the clubs. Everyone was assimilating into black culture that was down with hip hop in the beginning. DJ Hollywood became way bigger than Herc. Hollywood did everything. In my opinion, James Brown is the Godfather of hip hop. James use to rap and also the way he danced and his music inspired us. James would take it to the bridge which was like incorporating break beats into his music. Coming off of the Civil Rights movement, James also had the message for us like "Say It Loud." All of this was about the black American struggle. Other groups joined that struggle not only musically but in other ways as well. Latinos and other groups were de facto black Americans through assimilation and adaptation of the culture. If there were Ricans at a hip hop party, you didn't see PR flags like you would at a salsa event in El Barrio back then because they were getting in where they could fit in. Same for Jamaicans. The ones that were down would try to dress like brothas.
@@AKiEM.They copied the sound systems they saw in America they even copied the Juke Box. Back in the day Jamaicans would come to America to work. They would buy sound systems Funk and R&B records and ship them back to Jamaica.
@@mr.jabbar6443 LOL! Well, go ahead and discredit the entire Hip Hop industry because it was them who inducted Kool Herc into the Rock 'N Roll Hall of Fame as the godfather of Hip Hop. What you don't understand, he started a movement and popularized an art form that evolved into Hip Hop.
@randee4550 We have bom on camera saying that Hip Hop is Black American culture, and booski agreed with cholly and the other brothas who were in that post. He said everything he knows came from us. GAME OVER 🤭
@randee4550 If Herc is the father like you and Colon NOW say, then how does him being Caribbean put Puerto Ricans on the map or prove 50/50 with 'us', like yall originally claimed?? Don't be afraid to answer this question, this is separate from your beat down!
I always ask.. show me all the aspects of hip hop culture in Jamaica (or the Caribbean) if thats where it came from. I can show you all of those aspects here in the US.
Rhyming over inner city beats for the inner city community on the corners was exclusively a jamaican thing! Was brought to the nyc bouroghs n done in American style and backed by major music labels
I think he is actually more honest than a lot of these others, but they piled a bunch of mess on him, and he hasn't always given other people the right credit. people hear what they want in these interviews - plenty heard him say, "I brought the whole culture from JA" - but he never said it.
Herc actually told the truth already but it's like cats pretend they didn't read/hear it so this allows Herc to overstate his importance every now and then.
True icon / Hip Hop legend and King CRAZY LEGS has brought light to the situation of hip hop origins relating to Kool herc lately - And let's just say kool herc was a hip hop participator, definitely NOT "the" originator or creator.
Let see, the sound system came from America, the music that hip hop was created from was funk, whichisblackAMERICAN music, and the dancing style started by black dancers in the Bronx, and the raping was American, DJ-ing is American, So nothing that created hip hop, came out of the Caribbeans, so how did they come to the ridiculous conclusions that hip hop is a west indies genre?
1st off in the beginning when Hip-Hop started getting popular worldwide and was starting to make real money, Bambara was being credited as the Father of Hip-Hop and Herc was credited as the Godfather. Something happened whereas Bambara fell back then all of a sudden Herc was the Father. In Reality neither started Hip-Hop because Hip -Hop evolved into a Culture and in order to have a “Culture” you need the “People” to create that “Culture” and those “People” are the so-called “African American Youth”!!! Remember the Culture is the People and the People are the ones that Live the Culture!! This is what happens when someone contributes to the Culture and you get a group of People who don’t understand the Culture and create a False Narrative that the Masses run with and that person starts to live the “Lie” and the “Lie” gets reinforced, now that Person is forced to keep the “Lie” going!!
What up I did an interview with colon but never post because he know that rocking started in Brooklyn. He won’t give anyone from other borough any interview to tell the truth.
Peace King Uprock, wow that’s crazy. When about did that interview happen? If I ever build this channel up to doing interviews I would def like to get you on tape. I won’t delete it even if we don’t agree on whatever 😂
Wow great information my brother. I am glad you mention Grandmaster Flowers and it one more person you probably forgot to mention that is DJ John brown where Kool Herc got his selection of James brown music from that had the breakbeat in them. another thing in 1970 or 1971 that when DJ John brown start to DJ at that time in the Clubs. Kool Herc seem some of the breakdance moves there and that when Kool Herc says i didn't called them B-Boy at the particular time. Dj Smokey says the same thing hip hip from his eyes started in 1970 or 1971 because Dj Smokey went to see DJ John brown perform. if i recall i remember the crowed where Kool Herc perform with along side Coke la rock at was waiting for the particular breaks before Kool Herc started to do the continues Merry- go- Round.
DJ John Brown started Djing at the Plaza Tunnel in '71. He walked into The Plaza Tunnel and asked the owner if he could play there as a Dj. The owner obliged. His DJ name was DJ JB. He played obscure FUNK records and had a period of the night where he called out the dancers for Turn up time. It is duly noted, that these venues at the PT were venues, to accommodate HS teens, who couldn't attend the older Discos because of age. This was a place for teens, to exhibit their Cultural expression, exclusively, through dance. Among those teens at Tunnel were, Phase 2, Herc, Smokey, Mario, Bam, Michael Wayne, and many other individual who would later become pioneers, themselves. Many of these dancers/party goers, would later join Herc, Mario, Smokey at many of their parties... Some say this is actual Hip Hop, while many know this is part of Hip Hops lineage. Its definitely a continuum of our cultural continuity.
@@dremarwil6456 If this mystery dj brown started hiphop they would have said it already.Im going to laugh when they find out dj flowers was a westindian.
The connection was who was jacking what. As American youth got older their style of dress and dance evolved into something different. Puerto Ricans were still breaking and needed a Dj that would continue to play and loop break beats for them to dance to. The Bronx anthem Apache was mixed by Flash. This record was from a faild ban that used bongos.
Cool herc was a kid when he got to my city also back in 2007 i was with Kool herc this was when the south was shining I said how does he feel about New York Status In Hip hop he said F new York i promise you he said that smh
The Theory (which I dont subscribe to) Is that Kool Herc brought all those elements together. He was a Graffiti artist, and a 5%er so it make 'some' sense....
What happened to the beat box that’s more of a element than graffiti and Breakdancing back in the day every time someone hit a freestyle someone black was always beatboxing if one Puerto Rican was beatboxing then Beatboxing would be a element lol Break dancing was just a fad not a real element real elements don’t fade away.
For all those out there who claim Dj Kool Herc did not invent create originate HIP HOP. Then post a video clip showing any DJ anywhere in America keeping a hip hop party before August 11 , 1973
Show a clip of the August 11, 1973 party with Herc on the tables doing his merry go round technique. And if you can’t do that, explain exactly why you can’t show it.
ruclips.net/video/PcvWxe42QTM/видео.htmlsi=W7Gj-agznXgnBJIc They knew their roots in music came from America as far back as the 60s. Anything he learned in Jamaica. The people he learned it from first learned from America in Florida
Yes, that’s the P is Free on Criminal Minded BDP, and it uses a sample from a Yellowman record I forget the name of. It was on the Combat Jack interview.
What Kool Herc did, was come over from Jamaica to America and take an American art form and made it great. And a lot of people are hating on him for doing that shit.
@@garthreid5088 unfortunately he had a myth built up around him and sometimes seemed to co-sign it. everyone is accountable for themselves, that includes ‘hating’. But imo the bigger issue is the myth and the people lying to support it. I don’t have a real problem with Herc, I just don’t think he should have been made into an idol and prophet
@@AKiEM. Well, go ahead and discredit the entire Hip Hop industry because it was them who inducted Kool Herc into the Rock 'N Roll Hall of Fame as the godfather of Hip Hop. What you fail to understand, he started a movement and popularized an art form that evolved into Hip Hop.
@@garthreid5088 no, it’s not that simple. That’s the easy to understand marketing gimmick version of history. It’s built on a mythology started in the 90s not actual history.
James Brown gave us Funk Music - Zulu Kings > Breakdancing....Cornbread, Phase 2, etc.., > Graffiti.... GMF > Cutting/Scratching....Coke La Rock > Emceeing ------- Bambaataa > Zulu Nation.... Clarence 13X > Five-Percent Nation ------- So how exactly did Kool Herc become the dominant figure for all of Hip Hop?? Doesn't make sense.
From my understanding ...all the elements of hip hop culture...as hip hop is a culture of various art forms...hip hop is not a music genre...were in existence and being done by black americans before the party at 1520 sedgwick av....with each art form being done more in an independent fashion and hadn't been combined to form a culture yet...graffiti existed before the party...DJing ...and the systems and using 2 turntables existed before the party...Bboying existed before the party...MCing existed before the party ....before the party all the elements of what became known as hip hop culture were happening...it just hadn't been given any term yet...then cowboy and lovebug used the term hip hop...and after that bam defined what art forms formed what became known as hip hop culture....so basically herc, flash, bam etc didn't create the elements hip hop culture is based on...they only thought of the term hip hop and they thought to combine the various art forms into 1 culture...and call that culture hip hop ....in reality what is hip hop culture existed before the party in 1971...it's just it didn't go by that term yet
the hip-hop doc that Tariq is making has been pushed back again, I'm starting to think he made a deal w/ Colon & the photo guy, so they can make a few more coins b4 the truth come out
You're just trolling. He speaks about it all the time. He has his lawyers combing through all his footage because he believes that Jamaicans and Puerto Ricans are going to try to sue him. Because their salty about the 2 minute trailer. We know that they are AFRAID BECAUSE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE GLOBALLY WATCH HIS MOVIES. He is going to release another teaser next month. After he gets the ok from his legal team he's good. Yes he did talk to Colon. That's part of the reason that he lawyered up.
He never talked to me. He won't take my calls. So I have nothing to do with this. His fake DOC. is going to get laughed out of the City. All those pioneers are going to see what he really wanted in his fake DOC. for. then its on.@@lroyjetsonson5060
@DrDerrickColon There you go lying again. You had a chance to meet tariq face to face, but you started having panic attacks and claimed that you fear for your life🤭
It usually takes somebody who actually knows music because it seems like most people don’t even know what hip-hop actually is. People give disco king Mario credit and his brakes are simple, funk rhythms that are one kick and one clap in a continuous fashion. When grandmaster flowers breaks it was the same thing one kick one clap in a continuous manner very simple rhythm. When her plate breaks, it was obscure complex poly rhythms, which is what hip-hop sounds like today, this is how you prove the fact of who started hip-hop is who influenced modern day hip-hop production because we are the only ones making hip-hop today the hip-hop producer I am not copying disco king Mario, nor grandmaster flowers. So there is no myth. this is the actual ask anybody and they’ll say the same thing. Everybody else was playing disco rhythms, which are simple. The only thing that said cool her apart when he played his brakes is the choice to play the more complex drums. By complex, I don’t mean percussions I mean polyrhythms. Polyrhythms come from Africa. James Brown might’ve brought it to Funk, but he wasn’t the inventor. So the only thing that matters in this scenario is who made it popular and centered a whole style of music Around it it was. This is why he is the true father of hip-hop.
Flowers didn’t play James Brown type funk records, that’s your claim? He played four on the floor disco, is that what you are saying? And the myths is that Herc brought what he was doing in Jamaica to the US.
@@AKiEM. i never said hip hop came from jamaica nor do i claim it myself. a jamaican dj founded the rythmic aspect of hip hop. therefore the true father because all producers whomake trap boom bap and drill emulate the obscure breaks from herc parties. ive went through flowers disco breaks several times it was only one kick followed my one snare kind of beats. or simply heartbeat rythms. fell free to provide any evidence that he ever focused on hip hop rythms.
United we stand divided we fall , look at any map , the Caribbean is a part of North America, Black people played a major role in the development of America- first black female vice president of America is Jamaican, first black governor of New York was Jamaican, first black US army joint chief of staff was Jamaican, God father of hip hop is Jamaican, we are one family, one love
This prove that Jamaica has nothing because if you have to come to someone else's country to try and steal there culture and cosplay them. Instead of going back home to Jamaica and build it up that means also Jamaicans are wattles people
I’m like herc , son of Jamaican immigrants but I was born in the bronx. Herc is the godfather of hip hop , like James brown is the godfather of funk.he is Jamaican and he said he did indeed played reggae but not exclusively. Peace to kool herc the pioneer!
Not going to dis herc, but he tells lies. The idea that Jamaican sound systems had no influence on herc is a lie. On this one he says they do. In another he says they didn’t. The idea that Gill Scott, Nuyoricams and more weren’t in the mix is bs. The lad is reshaping history - but others know.
@@spruce381 calling Herc a liar is disrespecting him. I never said Herc himself was not influenced by Jamaican sound system, to whatever slight degree hardly witnessing them. He did not transfer any of that into HHC. If he did it at all it was minimal and didn’t continue.
@@AKiEM. not saying you did. Was watching another vid before where he said he had no contact with or knowledge of Jamaican sound systems. Yep / liar is too harsh, conflicted memories.
@@spruce381 I don’t know if I’ve seen all his interviews… but the closest thing I’ve heard him say is that he heard the bass and tin roofs rattling… speakers being set up… stuff like that. The way his sister tells the story, that transforms into he brought all that and they two were the singular origin. I think she is lying. And I don’t call many people liars, but here story changes if Coke LaRock is in the room….
What's even funnier, is that Herc failed to mention that DJ June Bug, Eddie Cheeba, and DJ Smalls were Hollywood's proteges. That's how June Bug was able to "catch it on time" because it was Hollywood's routine. Hollywood says that he taught June Bug how to DJ. Herc doesn't say June Bug didn't have anything to do with Hip-Hop, he says Hollywood didn't. That's crazy...
@@AKiEM. I failed to mention Hollywood's greatest protégé and that's DJ/Emcee Luv Big Star Ski who COINED the term Hip-Hop along with Keith Cowboy. Kool Kyle the Star Child said Hollywood put him on too... Check out Electro Live- Introducing Mark Skillz. Go to the 5:10 - 9:35 minute mark. Interesting take 34 years later after his interview with Herc. He too has a Caribbean background, but gives a more balanced perspective due to his many interviews with the pioneers. If you could upload it and give a breakdown to your viewing audience. Stay up!
@@AlleKat Exactly, he was... That's why Herc desperately tried to write Hollywood and Pete DJ Jones out of the history. Pete was noted for showing Flash, Mean Gene, Luv Big Star Ski, DJ Dee and others how to mix. Go to Google and pull up JayQuan the Foundation interview on Pete DJ Jones, if you haven't already. He was already extending the break as early as the late 60's along with Flowers.
@erykkoziokowski8006 Just answer the question. Aren't you from Australia??. Why is a white foreigner who is damn near 10,000 miles away from America speaking on Black culture 🤔
Wrong. I think Herc is mostly honest and may have exaggerated some things and accepted credit he should not have. But nothing compared to the myths and lies other people told about him. Herc is mostly honest.
Shoutout to the godfather of hiphop and one of the founding fathers Dj Kool Herc!! Herc is recognized by all the reputable artist producers and fans worldwide and will be 10 thousand years from now.
@randypaul8752 Again, How could herc be the Godfather of an already existing culture that he assimilated and had to fit into?? Inquiring FBA minds would like to know😂😂😂
Jamaica had electricity in 1892, long before most of the United States. Falmouth had running water before New York City. Jamaica had phone cards before the United States. Their phone system was so sophisticated it was copied
@@lockvegas05 hip hop NYC culture .stop it no NYC no hip hop . outside NYC had no clue from Zimbabwe to Crenshaw to Atlanta to Chicago to mali to Congo no blacks outside nyc had no input on hip hop
@@robluv4592 No Black Americans in New York = No Hip Hop. You could eliminate other ethnic groups and all the elements that went into creating hip hop would still be there. If eliminate the Black American culture that is in New York via FBA people then hip hop would be impossible to create.
Whats the point of this video to take away herc you can never do that. Herc created the merry go round you cant take that out of hip hop. Puerto ricans created the breaking moves you cant take that out of hip hop. So colon not lieing all that happened in real life
no, Im not taking anything from Herc, you are confused. My actual thoughts in Hercs merry-go-round technique would confuse you further. This video has nothing to do with PRs other than the nonsense colon tried to add. colon is a liar and propagandist.
Flash already said that Puerto Ricans came along later, and why do y'all name drop and latch unto so much to herc when Puerto Ricans weren't even at his parties?? Inquiring FBA minds would like to know🤣
You know Colon is a liar! A terrible one at that! He went from Hip Hop starting in the late 70s , to it starting in the mid 70s, to 50/50 with 'us', to Puerto Ricans creating the elements, to Herc, Flash and Bam, etc etc. Now he's back at calling Herc the 'father ', but in the same breath says that Herc's party wasn't a Hip Hop party, and Hip Hop started in 75! Yall like to call 'us' followers of Tariq, but yall hang on Colon's every word! Just like when he lies and says he was born in The Bronx!🙄
All you are doing is causing unnecessary division and creating more confusion for a people that are already confused. This is not rocket science!.. Hip-hop culture was birthed in the 70's and flourished in the 80's. Graffiti, tagging, breakdancing, DJing, emceeing, etc. Early hip-hop parties got its format from Jamaican soundboy sound system culture (two turntables, dj, emcee, microphone, stacked speakers, etc.) Like it or not. The only difference was the accent of the emcees and the music that the deejay played was obviously Jamaican music... This does not mean that black Americans were not the originators of "hip-hop". These are just the influences. Jamaican music in the 50's and the 60's were heavily influenced by black American RnB. It's all black culture!.. Stop being so sensitive and emotional and use more logic. Smh
@@AKiEM. Yes. Two of the first soundboy sound systems in jamaica was Duke Reid and Sir Coxone Dodd Downbeat. These two sounds used to clash (battle) in the Jamaican dancehalls in the 1950's. They eventually gave birth to sounds systems like Kilamanjaro and Stone Love in the 60's and 70's. Don't just take my word for it, do your own research or Google it and you will see that these are facts brother. Peace to you.
@@ryanwilliams7987 Who in Hip Hop got sound system culture from Kilimanjaro and Stone Love? You have to describe the connection. Two things that look similar don’t mean there is a connection. Secondly, you have to show they don’t have the same root - Black American Radio from the early 1900s is the actual root to both cultures.
@@AKiEM. There is no conspiracy here. If Kool Herc himself provided the blueprint for early hip-hop culture as far as the party scene and music goes and he and dudes like Grandmaster Flash are telling us what their influences were, why are we not justifying it?.. They have no ulterior motive. Just because some people are not hearing the answers that they would like to hear?.. Early Jamaican music was heavily influenced by black American jazz, soul and RnB. Those black American genres gave birth to "Ska" and "Rock Steady" (Jamaican music genres before reggae and dancehall). Ska and Rock Steady songs are the tunes Jamaicans used to play at dancehall parties. Before "dancehall" became a genre of music, it was actually the place where these parties were held. When reggae came in, it struggled to get airplay on the radio so the dancehall venues became the place to play these tunes. All Herc is saying is that they took the structure of the Jamaican dancehalls (stacked speakers, dj, emcee, microphone, etc.) as their influences to create black American hip-hop. It's all black culture bro'.
@@ryanwilliams7987 peace, watch my video again. Herc explains exactly where he got his sound system concept from. Again, if you can’t explain exactly who in the US first copied Jamaican sound systems…. it didn’t come from Jamaica. I used to believe it did until I started studying and trying to make the actual connections. It’s not there.
James Brown is the true god father of hip hop.
The point about June Bug is clearly on point. June Bug is purely a southern Black American name and or nickname.
Kool Herc has been so comfortable with the lie about the creation of Hip-Hop his present day minions have ran with that but the Documentary "Microphone Check" has brought clarity.
Facts! Bro Tariq Nasheed did an excellent work! 💯
Great video. Colon takes pride in trying to show up black americans in a culture we created. If there is a hint of someone other than FBAs making strides in hip hop, he never hesitate to highlight them.
He loves poking the bear.
thank you. the lengths and reaches are incredible, no way he believers himself.
@@randee4550 yall mfs do put on a great clown show. 🤡🤡
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@@randee4550The fact that you're over here throwing temper tantrums and attacking anyone who tells the truth proves who's really defeated 😂😂😂😂
@@randee4550Why are you mentioning chase in the same sentence with herc, bam, and flash?? When he didn't get down with Hip Hop until the late 70's?? Inquiring FBA minds would like to know 🤭. Herc didn't invite ricans to his parties and flash said y'all came along later on, but you're still name dropping them eventhough they're really didn't have anything to do with your kind 🤣
@randee4550 Nope, chase was a Disco dj in 75, and he didn't assimilate into Hip Hop until 77 or 78😂😂😂😂
A Puerto Rican named June Bug proves the fucking point!!😂
Exactly 🤣
@@randee4550June bug that’s a nigga name not no Latin name bro stop the bs
@randee4550 Vulture, you know damn well that junebug is a Black American nickname. Just stop it🤣
Let me get this right! So Herk came to America with no sound system, no slang, didnt know how to dress to the point he was made fun of, started dressing like Disco King Mario, didnt rap,went to dj Pete Browns party and heard the music he played, saw bboys dancing, took from Dj browns play list then went and started hip hop? Monkey s..t!!!!!!
It sounds exactly what Elvis Presley did watching Black Americans copied them and took it to his white audience and he became King
Where does Herc say ever that he went to Pete jones parties? You’re lying to try and sound like your arguement is right. Herc created hip hop with the merry go round. Point blank period.
Stop lieing herc came here as a child. You want us to believe he brought the genre with him. All the elements were going on before herc. I'll give him creating or morphing the term hip hop.
@@solarscience5815 What was the name of the DJ he got the list from? Jones or Brown?I heard him say it out of his own mouth! And he said he saw B Boys at the party that he later played the list for when he had his party! Our elders listened to these brake beats and dances to them! That's our culture idiot! Slang, fashion, rapping, speakers outside, and dancing on the floor was what we did!! Herc extending a break didn't start our culture! If he extended an instrumental part of reggae you would think nothing of it! HERC CAME INTO BLACK AMERICAN CULTURE!!!!
@@toniemaurice9150 Herc didn't create the term Hip Hop! Cowboy from the Furious five did!!! And Herc also said out of his own mouth that the guys in Brooklyn had the systems before him!
Slave hymns begot church gospel, church gospel begot the blues, the blues begot, classic jazz, classic jazz begot Rhythm n blues(and simultaneously,rock n roll), rhythm and blues begot Funk and Hip-hop.....hip hop has its roots and genesis in black, so-called American culture!!
@@randee4550So, we incorporated Puerto Rican music into our sh!t?? HILARIOUS 🤭
@@randee4550😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 say some more stuff - this is great
@randee4550 There's no such thing as a latin breakdown, and descarga has absolutely nothing to do with Puerto Ricans, that's an Afro cuban thing that was influenced by Black Americans. Now show me the Puerto Rican influences in our music, I DARE YOU 😂😂😂😂.
@@melanatedwarrior3530 when these people say “we” they mean ANYTHING not FBA.
@@AKiEM. Facts💯
Colon deleted all of the comments that I made to that video! He definitely did not like my reply to 'Randee', who lied and said that most of the people at Herc's 73 party was Jamaican! Not only did I address that, but I asked him, 'what does Herc being Caribbean have to do with any 50/50 claims, or how does Herc being the 'creator', put Puerto Ricans on the map???
Thank bro ! Continue to fight for the culture
I see he blocked you on his channel. He cant handle any push back on his poor scholarship.
@AKiEM. That's not the only reason he blocked me. Randee was continuously disrespecting me and when I brought it to Colon's attention he would ignore it. The last time Randee did it, Colon thought it would be a good idea to join in with Randee and start calling me a man, both knowing that I'm a female! Colon also knows that my husband was a Panther and an original Black Spade! He is also in the Martial Arts Hall of Fame! Of course, when I went off on them,Randee STFU and Colon tried to back pedal , and act brand new. I told him too late! He knows what that means! I told him it doesn't matter if he blocks me, deletes anything, like he always does, I have screenshot and saved everything! He's a coward, amongst other things! After all that, he had the nerve to want to have conversation, but I know the real reason he wants to chat is because he wanted to interview me about what I know pertaining to the Hip Hop, but I never would! He had the audacity to try and use the rouse by telling me to call him so that way it would prove I'm a female!
Females should stay out of grown men business anyway
Facts💯..... Colon is a hypocrite and a coward. He's a weakling who can't handle any type of pushback that destroys the false narratives he pushes. He only blocks Black folks but claims they're trolling to justify his weak actions. Meanwhile, ran dee is using multiple troll accounts like loubang100 and suntek7 to spew all types of racist rhetoric on colon's channel. Make it make sense 🤦🏽♂️
I'm an OG from the Bronx. Early Hip Hop Djs learned about equipment from Disco King Mario, Grand Master Flowers. Pete DJ Jones etc.Pete DJ Jones was much older then Bam, Herc & Flash he is the one who showed Flash how to hook up equipment.Even today Flash is on instagram saying Jones mentored him. Everyone in NYC knew Disco King Mario & Pete DJ Jones had the best systems. And passed their knowledge. All the early Dj's before Flash, Herc and Bam played Clubs and Restaurants and brought Sound Systems from Sam ASH not from Jamaica. Kids where to young to go to clubs so we just took the speakers outside and used whatever we had. They would borrow the older Djs Equipment from time to time Bam and Flash always said this. It had nothing to do with Jamaican Sound Clash Systems. If you ever look at old Hip Hop systems the speakers are never stacked like mountains its just the normal Cerwin Vega or Bose etc. speaker from the 70's, the same in US clubs. Jamaican Systems focus on the Super heavy Bass while American Dj systems focused on Clarity. Just listen to the older music your ears won't lie to you.
This accurate statement needs way more likes
Bronx River here!
@@pert5854 Feel free to copy and paste and/or add on.
I grew up watching DJs play in parks and clubs. I never saw an American Dj use a crayon to mark where to find a break beat on their records like Flash did.
@@icu4life240 Because he was the 1st one to do it.
I lived in the Bronx until 1970 and then I moved to Manhattan. No one was listening to Jamaican music. Black culture like Motown and James Brown was prominent in NYC. There were big sound systems all over NYC and especially in the clubs. Everyone was assimilating into black culture that was down with hip hop in the beginning. DJ Hollywood became way bigger than Herc. Hollywood did everything.
In my opinion, James Brown is the Godfather of hip hop. James use to rap and also the way he danced and his music inspired us. James would take it to the bridge which was like incorporating break beats into his music. Coming off of the Civil Rights movement, James also had the message for us like "Say It Loud." All of this was about the black American struggle. Other groups joined that struggle not only musically but in other ways as well. Latinos and other groups were de facto black Americans through assimilation and adaptation of the culture. If there were Ricans at a hip hop party, you didn't see PR flags like you would at a salsa event in El Barrio back then because they were getting in where they could fit in. Same for Jamaicans. The ones that were down would try to dress like brothas.
Jamaicans were the only ones with sound systems only sounds reasonable to people who want to believe the myth. Thanks for the comment!
@@AKiEM.They copied the sound systems they saw in America they even copied the Juke Box. Back in the day Jamaicans would come to America to work. They would buy sound systems Funk and R&B records and ship them back to Jamaica.
The more we dig herc really was talentless
No, what Kool Herc did was take an American art form and made it great. And people like you are hating on him for doing that shit.
@@garthreid5088 he has nothing to hate on he literally created nothing
@@garthreid5088 he couldn’t even blend the songs on beat he couldn’t cut he couldn’t dance he couldn’t rap
@@mr.jabbar6443 LOL! Well, go ahead and discredit the entire Hip Hop industry because it was them who inducted Kool Herc into the Rock 'N Roll Hall of Fame as the godfather of Hip Hop. What you don't understand, he started a movement and popularized an art form that evolved into Hip Hop.
@@garthreid5088 Herc wasn't even a good dj, HILARIOUSNESS 🤣
Dj Kool Herc did not bring Hip Hop to the Bronx.
Culture
Is based on
The language
The food
The art
The dances
Lol😂dang. Just debunked Colon again with the u.s. sound systems already here
Herc is not the Godfather of black Americans culture termed hip hop at all.Herc just found a niche
@@randee4550Your own ppl said Hip Hop is Black American culture 🤣
@@randee4550 Bom 5, fly booski and many more🤭
@randee4550 We have bom on camera saying that Hip Hop is Black American culture, and booski agreed with cholly and the other brothas who were in that post. He said everything he knows came from us. GAME OVER 🤭
@randee4550 You already seen it, don't play dumb. I saw other brothas telling you same thing months ago🤣
@randee4550 If Herc is the father like you and Colon NOW say, then how does him being Caribbean put Puerto Ricans on the map or prove 50/50 with 'us', like yall originally claimed?? Don't be afraid to answer this question, this is separate from your beat down!
Kool Herc
Converted
To New Yorker
Dress code
Street slang
He converted
Just like anyone
Else did that moved to ny back in them yr's.
People there was a challenge from Truth Savior to Dr. Colon and he denied it! 🤔
I always ask.. show me all the aspects of hip hop culture in Jamaica (or the Caribbean) if thats where it came from. I can show you all of those aspects here in the US.
facts!
Rhyming over inner city beats for the inner city community on the corners was exclusively a jamaican thing!
Was brought to the nyc bouroghs n done in American style and backed by major music labels
@@dwightgayle9589This is an absolute lie, y'all got toasting from a cab calloway book + Blk American Radio DJ ads 🤣
@@dwightgayle9589no it wasn't. Before hip-hop existed black boys were on the corner doo wopping . Ijs don't lie
herc exposed himself to be a liar, make you think why he avoid having interviews. Thank you brother continue to fight for our culture.
I think he is actually more honest than a lot of these others, but they piled a bunch of mess on him, and he hasn't always given other people the right credit. people hear what they want in these interviews - plenty heard him say, "I brought the whole culture from JA" - but he never said it.
Herc actually told the truth already but it's like cats pretend they didn't read/hear it so this allows Herc to overstate his importance every now and then.
@@AKiEM.ruclips.net/video/ZZZFEDCG1B8/видео.htmlsi=4NAeXX8rfcNaRp6E
@@AKiEM.ruclips.net/video/kNe9byePWrI/видео.htmlsi=Pe3doFDYnQPT77oZ
What about Herc's culture , he came over when he 12 years old , so obviously he grew up in the black American culture .....daaaaaaa !!!!
Yesssirrrr!!! WELL DAMN DONE. New Subscriber here, and truth is the damn truth! FBA Salute
True icon / Hip Hop legend and King CRAZY LEGS has brought light to the situation of hip hop origins relating to Kool herc lately - And let's just say kool herc was a hip hop participator, definitely NOT "the" originator or creator.
I saw that he said that on Drink Champs!
Let see, the sound system came from America, the music that hip hop was created from was funk, whichisblackAMERICAN music, and the dancing style started by black dancers in the Bronx, and the raping was American, DJ-ing is American, So nothing that created hip hop, came out of the Caribbeans, so how did they come to the ridiculous conclusions that hip hop is a west indies genre?
1st off in the beginning when Hip-Hop started getting popular worldwide and was starting to make real money, Bambara was being credited as the Father of Hip-Hop and Herc was credited as the Godfather. Something happened whereas Bambara fell back then all of a sudden Herc was the Father. In Reality neither started Hip-Hop because Hip -Hop evolved into a Culture and in order to have a “Culture” you need the “People” to create that “Culture” and those “People” are the so-called “African American Youth”!!! Remember the Culture is the People and the People are the ones that Live the Culture!! This is what happens when someone contributes to the Culture and you get a group of People who don’t understand the Culture and create a False Narrative that the Masses run with and that person starts to live the “Lie” and the “Lie” gets reinforced, now that Person is forced to keep the “Lie” going!!
Pete dj jones is who i was referring to
Excellent video bro, you always come with the truth💯
What up I did an interview with colon but never post because he know that rocking started in Brooklyn. He won’t give anyone from other borough any interview to tell the truth.
Peace King Uprock, wow that’s crazy. When about did that interview happen? If I ever build this channel up to doing interviews I would def like to get you on tape. I won’t delete it even if we don’t agree on whatever 😂
Why even bother. The TRUTH is REVEALING it's self. In all aspects. We are thriving in the Culture. They're NOT.
They like to lie. NewYorker always hated its black origin of hip hop . Kool Herc is ain't build nothing.
Cubans Dominican Puerto Rican only NYC blacks created hip hop
@@robluv4592 what
@@METALFACEDOOMXXXX that's what I'm saying dude are you slow
Wow great information my brother. I am glad you mention Grandmaster Flowers and it one more person you probably forgot to mention that is DJ John brown where Kool Herc got his selection of James brown music from that had the breakbeat in them. another thing in 1970 or 1971 that when DJ John brown start to DJ at that time in the Clubs. Kool Herc seem some of the breakdance moves there and that when Kool Herc says i didn't called them B-Boy at the particular time. Dj Smokey says the same thing hip hip from his eyes started in 1970 or 1971 because Dj Smokey went to see DJ John brown perform. if i recall i remember the crowed where Kool Herc perform with along side Coke la rock at was waiting for the particular breaks before Kool Herc started to do the continues Merry- go- Round.
DJ John Brown started Djing at the Plaza Tunnel in '71. He walked into The Plaza Tunnel and asked the owner if he could play there as a Dj. The owner obliged. His DJ name was DJ JB. He played obscure FUNK records and had a period of the night where he called out the dancers for Turn up time. It is duly noted, that these venues at the PT were venues, to accommodate HS teens, who couldn't attend the older Discos because of age. This was a place for teens, to exhibit their Cultural expression, exclusively, through dance. Among those teens at Tunnel were, Phase 2, Herc, Smokey, Mario, Bam, Michael Wayne, and many other individual who would later become pioneers, themselves. Many of these dancers/party goers, would later join Herc, Mario, Smokey at many of their parties... Some say this is actual Hip Hop, while many know this is part of Hip Hops lineage. Its definitely a continuum of our cultural continuity.
@@dremarwil6456 If this mystery dj brown started hiphop they would have said it already.Im going to laugh when they find out dj flowers was a westindian.
Who even knows at this point.
@AlleKat ok Where was Flowers from, what island?
@@AlleKat Grandmaster Flowers parents are from Carolinas bruh.
Let’s Gooo straight facts 🦍🖤✔️
The connection was who was jacking what. As American youth got older their style of dress and dance evolved into something different. Puerto Ricans were still breaking and needed a Dj that would continue to play and loop break beats for them to dance to. The Bronx anthem Apache was mixed by Flash. This record was from a faild ban that used bongos.
Great video. Colon a funny dude
😂😂😂dude is comedy
@@dryinkdryink675
Good job,breaking this down.
Cool herc was a kid when he got to my city also back in 2007 i was with Kool herc this was when the south was shining I said how does he feel about New York Status In Hip hop he said F new York i promise you he said that smh
That’s a funny story 😂 I believe it 👍
Just another nail in the ⚰️
Hip Hop is 5 elements.
1. Break Dancing
2. MCing
3. Graffiti
4. Rap
5. Knowledge
Also, Dress.
So are they saying kool herc created all of this?
The Theory (which I dont subscribe to) Is that Kool Herc brought all those elements together. He was a Graffiti artist, and a 5%er so it make 'some' sense....
@@AKiEM. Yup. They're overhyping him.
What happened to the beat box that’s more of a element than graffiti and Breakdancing back in the day every time someone hit a freestyle someone black was always beatboxing if one Puerto Rican was beatboxing then Beatboxing would be a element lol Break dancing was just a fad not a real element real elements don’t fade away.
For all those out there who claim Dj Kool Herc did not invent create originate HIP HOP. Then post a video clip showing any DJ anywhere in America keeping a hip hop party before August 11 , 1973
Show a clip of the August 11, 1973 party with Herc on the tables doing his merry go round technique. And if you can’t do that, explain exactly why you can’t show it.
We originate we don’t imitate, one love
@@RC1980 Herc says otherwise.
And you have no answer.
@RC1980 yall have nothing in Jamaica everything you have is shipped in a barrel from America. So I no nothing is created in Jamaica
Yall hate us but you want to be us.
Whats the history of American Sounds systems like in the 60s ? Like the top 5 sound system the places they played ?
Talk to the funky 4 plus 1 they was there before the first records
Tariq got an interview with MC Sha Rock for the film
Great video!!!!!
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They knew their roots in music came from America as far back as the 60s.
Anything he learned in Jamaica. The people he learned it from first learned from America in Florida
Can somebody tell me the name of the track that starts at 24 minutes and 45 seconds of this video. Thank you.
Yes, that’s the P is Free on Criminal Minded BDP, and it uses a sample from a Yellowman record I forget the name of. It was on the Combat Jack interview.
@@AKiEM. OK. Thank you.
@AKiEM. The break part that you used is in the beginning of the song. Thank you.
@@jamil7544 yes exactly, I forgot how I did that 🫡
@@AKiEM. Correction, Brother. I found the break part on the instrumental side of the P is free. I'm rockin' it now.
FRAUD copied DJ Mario
What Kool Herc did, was come over from Jamaica to America and take an American art form and made it great. And a lot of people are hating on him for doing that shit.
@@garthreid5088 unfortunately he had a myth built up around him and sometimes seemed to co-sign it. everyone is accountable for themselves, that includes ‘hating’. But imo the bigger issue is the myth and the people lying to support it. I don’t have a real problem with Herc, I just don’t think he should have been made into an idol and prophet
@@AKiEM. Well, go ahead and discredit the entire Hip Hop industry because it was them who inducted Kool Herc into the Rock 'N Roll Hall of Fame as the godfather of Hip Hop. What you fail to understand, he started a movement and popularized an art form that evolved into Hip Hop.
@@garthreid5088 no, it’s not that simple. That’s the easy to understand marketing gimmick version of history. It’s built on a mythology started in the 90s not actual history.
@@AKiEM. My bad, the last response was not for you.
James Brown gave us Funk Music - Zulu Kings > Breakdancing....Cornbread, Phase 2, etc.., > Graffiti.... GMF > Cutting/Scratching....Coke La Rock > Emceeing ------- Bambaataa > Zulu Nation.... Clarence 13X > Five-Percent Nation ------- So how exactly did Kool Herc become the dominant figure for all of Hip Hop?? Doesn't make sense.
From my understanding ...all the elements of hip hop culture...as hip hop is a culture of various art forms...hip hop is not a music genre...were in existence and being done by black americans before the party at 1520 sedgwick av....with each art form being done more in an independent fashion and hadn't been combined to form a culture yet...graffiti existed before the party...DJing ...and the systems and using 2 turntables existed before the party...Bboying existed before the party...MCing existed before the party ....before the party all the elements of what became known as hip hop culture were happening...it just hadn't been given any term yet...then cowboy and lovebug used the term hip hop...and after that bam defined what art forms formed what became known as hip hop culture....so basically herc, flash, bam etc didn't create the elements hip hop culture is based on...they only thought of the term hip hop and they thought to combine the various art forms into 1 culture...and call that culture hip hop ....in reality what is hip hop culture existed before the party in 1971...it's just it didn't go by that term yet
THEY ARE NOT THE FATHERS NOR THE FOUNDATION OF HIP HOP
the hip-hop doc that Tariq is making has been pushed back again, I'm starting to think he made a deal w/ Colon & the photo guy, so they can make a few more coins b4 the truth come out
You're just trolling. He speaks about it all the time. He has his lawyers combing through all his footage because he believes that Jamaicans and Puerto Ricans are going to try to sue him. Because their salty about the 2 minute trailer. We know that they are AFRAID BECAUSE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE GLOBALLY WATCH HIS MOVIES. He is going to release another teaser next month. After he gets the ok from his legal team he's good. Yes he did talk to Colon. That's part of the reason that he lawyered up.
Lies! Tariq knows black Americans don’t fk around with our money.
He never talked to me. He won't take my calls. So I have nothing to do with this. His fake DOC. is going to get laughed out of the City. All those pioneers are going to see what he really wanted in his fake DOC. for. then its on.@@lroyjetsonson5060
@DrDerrickColon There you go lying again. You had a chance to meet tariq face to face, but you started having panic attacks and claimed that you fear for your life🤭
@@melanatedwarrior3530 facts!
It usually takes somebody who actually knows music because it seems like most people don’t even know what hip-hop actually is. People give disco king Mario credit and his brakes are simple, funk rhythms that are one kick and one clap in a continuous fashion. When grandmaster flowers breaks it was the same thing one kick one clap in a continuous manner very simple rhythm. When her plate breaks, it was obscure complex poly rhythms, which is what hip-hop sounds like today, this is how you prove the fact of who started hip-hop is who influenced modern day hip-hop production because we are the only ones making hip-hop today the hip-hop producer I am not copying disco king Mario, nor grandmaster flowers. So there is no myth. this is the actual ask anybody and they’ll say the same thing. Everybody else was playing disco rhythms, which are simple. The only thing that said cool her apart when he played his brakes is the choice to play the more complex drums. By complex, I don’t mean percussions I mean polyrhythms. Polyrhythms come from Africa. James Brown might’ve brought it to Funk, but he wasn’t the inventor. So the only thing that matters in this scenario is who made it popular and centered a whole style of music Around it it was. This is why he is the true father of hip-hop.
Flowers didn’t play James Brown type funk records, that’s your claim? He played four on the floor disco, is that what you are saying?
And the myths is that Herc brought what he was doing in Jamaica to the US.
@@AKiEM. i never said hip hop came from jamaica nor do i claim it myself. a jamaican dj founded the rythmic aspect of hip hop. therefore the true father because all producers whomake trap boom bap and drill emulate the obscure breaks from herc parties. ive went through flowers disco breaks several times it was only one kick followed my one snare kind of beats. or simply heartbeat rythms. fell free to provide any evidence that he ever focused on hip hop rythms.
@@griddilla2374 I didn’t say you said that. So Flowers didn’t play James Brown funk records, it was all 4 to the floor disco… if you say so
Here did not envent hip hop 90% of da Jamaican culture is black American culture dat is it
So praying James brown music to FBA to dance to made him known
Great Conversation 🎈👈🏿
BRONXDALE PROJECTS IS THE FOUNDATION
United we stand divided we fall , look at any map , the Caribbean is a part of North America, Black people played a major role in the development of America- first black female vice president of America is Jamaican, first black governor of New York was Jamaican, first black US army joint chief of staff was Jamaican, God father of hip hop is Jamaican, we are one family, one love
All of the people you named literally assimilated into Black American society and culture.
This prove that Jamaica has nothing because if you have to come to someone else's country to try and steal there culture and cosplay them. Instead of going back home to Jamaica and build it up that means also Jamaicans are wattles people
Be proud of your country
I’m like herc , son of Jamaican immigrants but I was born in the bronx. Herc is the godfather of hip hop , like James brown is the godfather of funk.he is Jamaican and he said he did indeed played reggae but not exclusively. Peace to kool herc the pioneer!
@@michaelsmith-ws2mb you are a colonizer
Flash and Herc
Got Bob Marley
Syndrome
@first_to_lett_a_rhymme_flow_ tell u when I see you
context...well done
its spelled COKE LAROCK caps
I tried replying, but I don't see it populating..
They have moved from reparations to Hip Hop….someone tell them you don’t own what you don’t control
Not going to dis herc, but he tells lies.
The idea that Jamaican sound systems had no influence on herc is a lie. On this one he says they do. In another he says they didn’t.
The idea that Gill Scott, Nuyoricams and more weren’t in the mix is bs.
The lad is reshaping history - but others know.
@@spruce381 calling Herc a liar is disrespecting him. I never said Herc himself was not influenced by Jamaican sound system, to whatever slight degree hardly witnessing them. He did not transfer any of that into HHC. If he did it at all it was minimal and didn’t continue.
@@AKiEM. not saying you did. Was watching another vid before where he said he had no contact with or knowledge of Jamaican sound systems.
Yep / liar is too harsh, conflicted memories.
@@spruce381 I don’t know if I’ve seen all his interviews… but the closest thing I’ve heard him say is that he heard the bass and tin roofs rattling… speakers being set up… stuff like that. The way his sister tells the story, that transforms into he brought all that and they two were the singular origin. I think she is lying. And I don’t call many people liars, but here story changes if Coke LaRock is in the room….
23:16 wait so whats funny when he says Junebug was the DJ and Hollywood was the mouthpiece /the mc in there? Are you calling him a liar for that part?
What's even funnier, is that Herc failed to mention that DJ June Bug, Eddie Cheeba, and DJ Smalls were Hollywood's proteges. That's how June Bug was able to "catch it on time" because it was Hollywood's routine. Hollywood says that he taught June Bug how to DJ. Herc doesn't say June Bug didn't have anything to do with Hip-Hop, he says Hollywood didn't. That's crazy...
All I could do is 😂 colon throwing up a 🇵🇷
@@AKiEM. I failed to mention Hollywood's greatest protégé and that's DJ/Emcee Luv Big Star Ski who COINED the term Hip-Hop along with Keith Cowboy. Kool Kyle the Star Child said Hollywood put him on too...
Check out Electro Live- Introducing Mark Skillz. Go to the 5:10 - 9:35 minute mark. Interesting take 34 years later after his interview with Herc. He too has a Caribbean background, but gives a more balanced perspective due to his many interviews with the pioneers. If you could upload it and give a breakdown to your viewing audience. Stay up!
@@cimarronreed7556 facts hollywood was rhyming since day one,before herc was a dj,at least thats how the story was told to me.
@@AlleKat Exactly, he was... That's why Herc desperately tried to write Hollywood and Pete DJ Jones out of the history. Pete was noted for showing Flash, Mean Gene, Luv Big Star Ski, DJ Dee and others how to mix. Go to Google and pull up JayQuan the Foundation interview on Pete DJ Jones, if you haven't already. He was already extending the break as early as the late 60's along with Flowers.
Kool Herc is Father of Hip Hop!!!
Why is a white foreigner speaking on Black American culture 🤔
@@melanatedwarrior3530 are you idi...???this is your level of your question
....
@erykkoziokowski8006 Just answer the question. Aren't you from Australia??. Why is a white foreigner who is damn near 10,000 miles away from America speaking on Black culture 🤔
@@melanatedwarrior3530 go to doctor...
@erykkoziokowski8006 You're the one obsessing over a culture that had absolutely nothing to do with your kind. Seek help ASAP🤭
You are trying hard to discredit Herc...
Wrong. I think Herc is mostly honest and may have exaggerated some things and accepted credit he should not have. But nothing compared to the myths and lies other people told about him. Herc is mostly honest.
Where are their Ice Cubes, Scar Faces, Nazs, Lil Wayne today?
Shoutout to the godfather of hiphop and one of the founding fathers Dj Kool Herc!! Herc is recognized by all the reputable artist producers and fans worldwide and will be 10 thousand years from now.
🧢........ How could herc be the Godfather of a culture that he assimilated and had to fit into?? Make it make sense 🤣
@@randypaul8752Don't deflect, just answer the question 🤣
@@melanatedwarrior3530 answer what Kool Herc is the godfather. You don’t think so and you don’t matter..
@randypaul8752 Again, How could herc be the Godfather of an already existing culture that he assimilated and had to fit into?? Inquiring FBA minds would like to know😂😂😂
@randypaul8752 That's irrelevant because black celebrities are on the take. I need you to make it make sense to me, NOW😂😂😂
Jamaica had electricity in 1892, long before most of the United States. Falmouth had running water before New York City. Jamaica had phone cards before the United States. Their phone system was so sophisticated it was copied
You say that like poverty and shanty towns never exist in JA…
But why do you think this has ANYTHING to do with my video?
So why is Jamaica a shit whole country that has nothing now?
@@chopitupradio4286 💩
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Dominican Puerto Rican Cubans only NYC blacks created hip hop
😂😂😂! Please tell us which Elements of hip hop came from your culture sir ? Why be a culture vulture sir ?
BLACK PEOPLE CREATED HIP !
@@lockvegas05 hip hop NYC culture .stop it no NYC no hip hop . outside NYC had no clue from Zimbabwe to Crenshaw to Atlanta to Chicago to mali to Congo no blacks outside nyc had no input on hip hop
@robluv4592 But all of the elements of Hip Hop comes from outside of NY tho🤔. Make it make sense 🤣
@@robluv4592 No Black Americans in New York = No Hip Hop. You could eliminate other ethnic groups and all the elements that went into creating hip hop would still be there. If eliminate the Black American culture that is in New York via FBA people then hip hop would be impossible to create.
More bullshit?
You can't handle the true ...
Whats the point of this video to take away herc you can never do that. Herc created the merry go round you cant take that out of hip hop. Puerto ricans created the breaking moves you cant take that out of hip hop. So colon not lieing all that happened in real life
no, Im not taking anything from Herc, you are confused. My actual thoughts in Hercs merry-go-round technique would confuse you further. This video has nothing to do with PRs other than the nonsense colon tried to add. colon is a liar and propagandist.
Yeah the breaking move they seen FBA already has done
You a clown you riding with your immigrant friends 😂😂😂 everything was already established fool what they brought
Flash already said that Puerto Ricans came along later, and why do y'all name drop and latch unto so much to herc when Puerto Ricans weren't even at his parties?? Inquiring FBA minds would like to know🤣
You know Colon is a liar! A terrible one at that! He went from Hip Hop starting in the late 70s , to it starting in the mid 70s, to 50/50 with 'us', to Puerto Ricans creating the elements, to Herc, Flash and Bam, etc etc. Now he's back at calling Herc the 'father ', but in the same breath says that Herc's party wasn't a Hip Hop party, and Hip Hop started in 75! Yall like to call 'us' followers of Tariq, but yall hang on Colon's every word! Just like when he lies and says he was born in The Bronx!🙄
All you are doing is causing unnecessary division and creating more confusion for a people that are already confused. This is not rocket science!.. Hip-hop culture was birthed in the 70's and flourished in the 80's. Graffiti, tagging, breakdancing, DJing, emceeing, etc. Early hip-hop parties got its format from Jamaican soundboy sound system culture (two turntables, dj, emcee, microphone, stacked speakers, etc.) Like it or not. The only difference was the accent of the emcees and the music that the deejay played was obviously Jamaican music... This does not mean that black Americans were not the originators of "hip-hop". These are just the influences. Jamaican music in the 50's and the 60's were heavily influenced by black American RnB. It's all black culture!.. Stop being so sensitive and emotional and use more logic. Smh
Do you have any evidence we adopted Jamaican soundboy culture ?
@@AKiEM. Yes. Two of the first soundboy sound systems in jamaica was Duke Reid and Sir Coxone Dodd Downbeat. These two sounds used to clash (battle) in the Jamaican dancehalls in the 1950's. They eventually gave birth to sounds systems like Kilamanjaro and Stone Love in the 60's and 70's. Don't just take my word for it, do your own research or Google it and you will see that these are facts brother. Peace to you.
@@ryanwilliams7987 Who in Hip Hop got sound system culture from Kilimanjaro and Stone Love? You have to describe the connection. Two things that look similar don’t mean there is a connection. Secondly, you have to show they don’t have the same root - Black American Radio from the early 1900s is the actual root to both cultures.
@@AKiEM. There is no conspiracy here. If Kool Herc himself provided the blueprint for early hip-hop culture as far as the party scene and music goes and he and dudes like Grandmaster Flash are telling us what their influences were, why are we not justifying it?.. They have no ulterior motive. Just because some people are not hearing the answers that they would like to hear?.. Early Jamaican music was heavily influenced by black American jazz, soul and RnB. Those black American genres gave birth to "Ska" and "Rock Steady" (Jamaican music genres before reggae and dancehall). Ska and Rock Steady songs are the tunes Jamaicans used to play at dancehall parties. Before "dancehall" became a genre of music, it was actually the place where these parties were held. When reggae came in, it struggled to get airplay on the radio so the dancehall venues became the place to play these tunes. All Herc is saying is that they took the structure of the Jamaican dancehalls (stacked speakers, dj, emcee, microphone, etc.) as their influences to create black American hip-hop. It's all black culture bro'.
@@ryanwilliams7987 peace, watch my video again. Herc explains exactly where he got his sound system concept from. Again, if you can’t explain exactly who in the US first copied Jamaican sound systems…. it didn’t come from Jamaica. I used to believe it did until I started studying and trying to make the actual connections. It’s not there.
DJ KOOL DEE had t GLI speakers n cross fader GLI DISCO 3500. IN 75