My New 38 Ton Ironworker - Peddinghaus 210/11
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- Опубликовано: 25 апр 2020
- In this video I show you the process of getting this Peddinghaus 210/11 38 Ton Ironworker into my shop using a pallet jack and engine crane. I also cleaned up the machine and did a few test runs. Really excited to have this in the shop!!
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When I did an apprenticeship as a steel construction worker in the 80s, we had an older version of this thing in the shop. Liked to work with it. Mostly because it was one of the few places in the shop, it was accepted to sit down during work when you had to punch a few hundert holes. Greetings from Germany
You call it steel too?
Muricans can't stop calling things by incorrect names
After having worked with and around heavy equipment movers and professional riggers, I moved 1 and 2 ton workshop equipment alone using an apple box full of pipe rollers, a couple bars, some lumber, and a hand winch or come along.
I've got one that I bought for $1800 & it came with about 50 dies & a new set of shear blades. It's in excellent condition. I don't use it much now but it's there when I need it. Peddinghaus is the best for sure.
This brought back some old memories. I sold these ironworkers in the 60s with the Tull company in Atlanta. It was a nice sale and I never had a customer complaint. High quality, strong, well-built machine. We sold Marchant punches and dies for these ironworkers. I am impressed by the safe way you approached the movement and installation. Thank you for the video.
Awesome! I love this machine! So happy to have it in my shop!
An ironworker is crazy high on my list of machines to get. They make life so much easier.
Now that i have it, i cant imagine life without it!
We had one back then when I was an apprentice almost 30 years ago. A great machine that still runs today. So this little baby can serve you for years to come. :)
Can't beat German engineering and quality. :)
I used to use an old iron worker about the same size when I was doing sheet metal fab. I used to go through 3x3x1/4" - 20' angle by the pallet load. Certainly a time saver, very cool feeling of power when it punches through the thick metal. As a die maker I now use the big brothers to these machines. Also watching you move that around the shop certainly makes me appreciate our 60t/25t(60t main hoist with a 25t auxiliary hoist) bridge crane where I'm moving around 40-90k lb dies around by myself. Good luck with it, stay safe and be safe with those punches and dies.
"Should never run a machine without the covers on"
Ope, news to me! All my machines are open belted with old leather flat belts, except my mill.
Good work getting it in there man.
Gaurds are add on for this old flywheel cropper it will punch through 1'' plate like butter
What a machine. Sure come in handy with all the varying work you do. Thanks for the video cobber. Stay safe and take it easy
I was impressed with your pallet jack skills. You are making the best of your quarantine time. Keep up the good work.
great to see one of these in action.
from 1996 to 2001 i used to work for the Australian distributor for Peddinghaus, i sold hundreds of punches and dies in that time.
Amazing move & functional refurbishment on that machine, well done!
So nice to see young folks enjoy and appreciate the tools of yesteryear. You are one talented mover too. Be safe.
Thank you! I do what I can with what I have!
One Peddinghaus factory is like 2 mins with the car from here. weird to see this mashine so far away. Greetings from Germany
I spent 2 1/2 years in your country long ago, (Aug 1960 - Mar. 1963) and Love both the country itself and it's wonderful people.
We had an iron worker at the first hotrod shop I worked at about 20 years ago. I had never seen one and couldn’t believe how much time it saved. That tool opened my eyes to not only being a good fabricator but being an efficient fabricator with my time.
This thing changed the game for me! Id never really used one before I bought this one and now I don't know how I lived without it!
I used one of those ironworkers for twenty years and it did an amazing amount of work for fabricating heavy metal !!
That's a great addition, congratulations on finding it in such good shape.
The machines are a fantastic piece of kit and can make life so much easier.
Amazing find ! Congratulations brother
never seen a machine like that before ,so useful ,fantastic !
once you see one, you need one!
Este GOLD(aur) intr-un atelier da canf metalice daca stii sa o folosesti la parametrii ei faci enor de multa economie da energie si scule adiacente unei mari game da lucrari
I am no machinist, no ironworker, and no metal fabricator, but I have been around many such shops in my long life. Albeit, I have never seen one of these pipe machines before, the pure smooth power of the punch simply amazes me. BTW: If you keep buying machines, you won't be able to get into your shop to work.
Quite the solo install. That's going to be a time saver.👍
Thanks! Yes its gonna be worth all the effort for sure!!
I am a woodworker and don’t know much about working with metal. I find videos like this really cool. Nice shop. Great machine.
Awesome stuff Chris! 😃👍🏻👊🏻
In the 80's I caught my middle finger in between a ring I made for a rim and the notcher on the front of the Peddinghaus at my first job, wasn't pleasant, the nail went black and raised up a half inch, I was afraid to go to the hospital, thankfully still have the finger and a new nail. Fantastic machine though, still in service.
Really liked the overview of the iron worker, hope you get an opportunity to go into more depth on projects using it. Thanks
we enjoyed this video it was very educational. thanks
Great machine,ours is painted battle ship grey
i remember the video of you going to get this. good times.
What a cool machine! I haven't seen one in action for years! My grandpa had a similar machine, great addition to your shop Chris! :)
Also, I have an anvil from Peddinghaus :)
Excellent machine
i would replace that spring for the roller support with an acme thread.
The jolly green giant...Is in the house!!!
Incredible piece of kit. I’m sure it will really increase efficiency. If you need to make a lot of the same thing you could just stamp it out so effortlessly.
That's nice. I hope you get many years of use from it.
That's a fine machine bro !
Happy for you Chris... That machine cuts and punches like a hot knife through butter... My offer still stands , Hardware and 1.75 Filament and my friendship. Stay well to your family and you
I gotta get out that way soon!! Thanks man! Stay Well!
Awesome machine!
The max weight is actually 3000 lbs as only 3 wheels will take the load until one yields, but your 1/2 ton under max so you should be ok.
12:50....The bliss of success!!!!
Nothing better than not dying while moving machinery alone!
Moving your shop upstate will be a pain man. Looks like a great addition to the shop.
haha yes it will! If i ever move itll be with a tractor trailer and a forklift!
that is one nice machine
good machines!
CROPSEY IRONWORKS 1954 - 2018 BROOKLYN NY. WE HAD AN 88/10 CIRCA 1938. 4000 SQUARE FOOT SHOP SIZE SO WE HAD IT SIT ON A STATIC STAND TOPPED WITH 1" PLATE. THE MATERIAL WAS FED IN ON CUSTOM MADE CONVEYOR ROLLER BEDS FOR THE LOWER KNIVES AND ANOTHER FOR THE ANGLE IRON ABOVE. WE HAD CLAMPED MEASURING STOPS ON THE RIGHT SIDE, WITH EPOXIED IN MEASURING TAPE, THE STOP GLIDES WHERE SOLID 1.5" SQUARE STOCK, THE MATERIAL STOP SLIDERS CLAMPED ALONG THE LENGTH USING DEDICATED VICE GRIPS TO HOLD THE CUTTING MEASUREMENTS FOR PRODUCTION WORK. I CHANGED THE COUNTERSINK GREASE FITTINGS TO THE TYPICAL NIPPLE TYPE ONES FOR EASIER PENETRATION. PEDDINHAUS HAS A MIDWEST OUTFIT FOR ORDERING KNIVES - EXPENSIVE. THE UPPER COPING KNIVES WERE REALLY EXPENSIVE (GERMAN STEELS). WE GOT THE PUNCHES FROM CLEVELAND TOOL CO AND WE REGROUND THE PUNCHES PERIODICALLY USING A FULLY RESTORED 1914 10" SHELDON LATHE USING A TOOL-POST GRINDER. I THINK I SOLD THE MACHINE FOR $1500 ON CRAIGS IN '18. THE MACHINE IS A BEAST. WE DID ORNAMENTAL IRON WORK AND I LEFT A LARGE BODY OF WORK BEHIND OVER MY TENURE. ENJOY IT'S YOUR TIME NOW.
The left over bottom dies probably go with the top ones you have, they just have different clearances to account for shearing different thicknesses
I'd recomend a tilting bed truck or trailer with the palletized machine on a pallet jack. Tilt the bed with the load supported by a rachet strap to the heak of the bed. Use ratchet strap like a clutch to gently roll it out. I moved a 3 ton mill like this.
Omg I so need one of these
Chris you've outgrown your shop. You need a new I-beam trussed 40' x 60' shop with 5 ton trolley hoists.
absolutely i do!!!!
Just a couple of thoughts. Now that you have levelled the support roller, place a scratch line on the shaft to make re-setting easier. You can also put marks for when lowering the roller for common sizes of steel. I also saw you mention about the D-rings in the van possibly pulling out. I think that it would be prudent to mount your own stronger D-rings with under floor reinforcing either side of the wheel arches.
Congratulations! Very nice job and video. May God Bless you , your family and your business.Antônio Campos.
Now THIS is one machine that I am actively looking for! What are your thoughts on a Turret Punch? I'm debating on buying one I found locally.
How big of a turret punch? I maintained a 35 ton with 36 stations 2 of which were indexable also had a plasma torch
Where there's a will, there's a way. Great job moving that beast solo. Frankly I'd prefer to not have other people around when I'm moving something really heavy. You never know what somebody else will do. With a come-a-long, big cheater bar/pipe and some skids to slide on, and you can move almost anything with a pallet
Just thinking: raising the center of gravity of an heavy object could it be a concrete issue when you have to move it?
I like Big Boy Toys.. Keep Well..
it is beauty... it needs a hug
kevin jennex I used it on my most recent job and it paid dividends! I hugged it
Chris, I'll make all my tool bases/workbenches such that they can be easily moved with a pallet jack (proper height and spacing of lower cross-members). No need to purchase casters, no need to make stabilizing legs. Easier to move with the handle of a pallet jack then trying to hump around a ton on casters.
What are you doing with the other iron worker?
Stop by if you're in central Suffolk.
18:03 Dude! What happened to your second anvil! The horn looks like its cut off!! We should connect and make a anvil as I have one with the back cut off... possible collaboration...
Hah! That’s a 360lb Peter Wright that someone cut the horn off with a grinder! I’ve got some 5” stock ready to forge into a horn and attach! Love your stuff! Let’s make something!
@@MakeEverything holy shit why would someone do that.
@@qqqqqqqq1407 why do people do stupid shit all of the time? Because we are a stupid species!
I have a 110 it is a monster of a machine...
Why did you unload it so far away from your shop door? That's an extra what 60 /70 feet of dragging it? Why not back RIGHT up to the door?
I think a Burke bar would be a welcomed tool!
Yes I need one!
This is where air springs come in handy.
My concern with moving it in a van the suspension would be a very distant second, and number one would be what happens if you come to a sudden stop (think car accident). If that thing isn't strapped down like crazy, even a low speed accident is going to kill everyone involved when a one tonne metal object with no crumple zones becomes airborne, rips through the front seats of the van, through the windshield and continues into the cabin of the other vehicle.
Inertia is the second biggest bitch, only topped by gravity.
Yeah, that’s definitely a concern, I strapped the hell out of it with 10k rated straps but in a real bad accident the D rings would just rip out and I’d die a horrible death.
Hey may I ask the make and model of your van? Are you generally happy with it? I'm in the market for a van to transport heavy plants and garden sculptures...
our company in germany just sold their peddinghaus becouse nobody took the time to activate it again. kinda sad
Sweet
Am very jealous 😁
ehy dint u relay on the welds ?
What kind of old building is your shop in?
Would it nit have been much simpler to back the van close to the garage door and unload there? B|
Nice👍👍👍👍
I didn't know I wanted one till now
you dont want one, you NEED one!
I'll tell my wife you said that. Then buy some Advil for my sudden headache.
Masina este extrem de versatila si pot fi create dispozitive care duc la imbunatatirea randamentului ptru serii medii mari da repere scutind timp si economisind energie scule de altfel adiacente etc Este o masina extrem de utila ptru serii mijlocii si mari da repere din profile laminate Obijuterie valoroasa intr-un At de confectii metalice Am lucrat cu astfel de masina , nu este tocmai pretentioasa Doar gresata la timp si ( sculele) cutitele bine ascutite si a nu se forta peste puterea data si te vei bucura de un lucru bun si folositor
Pallet jacks are underrated .
Just no fair at all... I have a friend that's an iron worker, lol, he's only 200 lbs. Nice job there bro.
Tap matic is the shxt!... Gotta get one..
Absolutely!!!
The motor is a 3 phase 5 Hp ? how did you wire it to be able to move it ? Nice job by the way.
Motorul este da 3 faze dar are 5 Kw Cp e alta mincare da peste desi masoara tot puterea dar in (w) puterea electrica iar in( Cp) lucru mecanic efectuat o mica mare diferenta 1Kw = 1,36Cp
Pretty cool little iron worker. I'm surprised at your faith for your straps, but not for the frame. If anything were likely to hurt you, it would be getting in a wreck while hauling it. Interesting shop. Somewhere in New England?
Is there a spider under the metal worker at 2:20?
how much did that machine cost you?
So I have watched a few of your videos now moving God awful heavy things. Did you by chance have anything to do with the construction of the pyramids?
Thats a billy badass machine! Such a huge time saver! Would you mind tell us what you paid for it? ,Thank you for sharing !
$1500 with all the tooling!!! A steak!!!
@@MakeEverything did you get it locally? Can you pm me or share where you got it from? Im from nyc and im looking for this unit as well. Thanks
Next on Make Everything: I bought a forklift.
Your van is a MFing champ!
God damn right!!!
The payload of your van of 3300 lbs it is rated for applies to *both* axles not the rear axle only
Make a self ratcheting drill press out of a self ratcheting screw driver and arbor press please.
A very nice tool, wish I had room for one. Just curious, and I'm sure hindsight is 20/20, but why did you unload it at the opposite end of your driveway and why not put it on the base to roll it in rather than the pallet jack? I'm betting your shop crane could have lifted it high enough to get it on.
Good questions. This sat outside my shop for almost two weeks before i brought it inside, and I share the driveway with another guy so i had to keep it out of the way. its actually a lot easier to roll it on the pallet jack than the dolly base, and the mass of this machine is high up, so the closer it was to the ground, the safer i felt moving it would be. The nice thing about a pallet jack when moving top heavy stuff, if it start to get tippy and sketchy you can grab the lever and drop the pallet jack down to the floor and itll usually stabilize it quick!
Why didn't you keep the engine hoist on the shop floor and back up to the garage door...
Guds777 when I got to the shop I wasn’t ready to bring it inside, and I wanted to paint it outside too. Couple extra steps but it looks great now!
I forgot to add FYI when using punching machines like this for 1/2 inch thick material the die needs to be 1/16 larger than the punch and for material thinner than 1/2 inch it should be 1/32 larger . And that will be mostly what will be used on this machine anyway .
to push a pallet in more use an empty pallet on the forks
Great Score but you worked harder than an ugly stripper moving it.Great machine.
a quel prix vous le vendez
Today everything is hydraulic and guys think they are the cats butt. They're not. A Peddinghaus will outwork any of the hydraulic units I have seen. They are fast and accurate when setup correctly. I worked in a shop that had a Piranha and a Peddinghaus. The Peddinghaus was always busy. The Piranha was like a backup when you needed an ironworker now and simply couldn't wait. So keep your Piranha and give me a Peddinghaus any day.
Nu te necaj dageaba ati furat cu zecile di astea din romania tot occidentu si mai sint vino si cata la noi si vei gasi si acum chiar noi in vaselina ne folosite nici a data ca nu au mai apucat sa le foloseasca au furat si au distrus tot sar putea sa mai gasesti prin vreo magazie la vre-o fabrica recent abandonata incearca
@@viorelpopescu4990 What F**k are you talking about? I used a translator and this is what it came up with:
Don't worry in vain you stole dozens of these from Romania all over the west and they are still coming to us and you will find us and now even we in Vaseline used us not even once they stopped using them they stole and destroyed everything you may find yourself in a warehouse at a recently abandoned factory
Would u be interested in making a wide clothes wringer 35 inches wide steel and wood not rubber. Or perhaps steel rollers won't work that's why they are in wood or rubber.
thearough shoot me an email info@makeeverythingshop.com
11:00 Pretty sure this is how the Egyptians did it when they move heavy equipment for the pyramids.
Yeah, you know I'm jealous. Don't mind me😉
spray painting over old grease ?!? there is a special place for you guys, they tell me its realy warm all year... just kidding, I've done alot worse :) great job
If this got stolen, I’m your first suspect 😁
ZMO999 hah! I never worry about my shop getting robbed because everything’s too damn heavy to steal!
The gravel driveway is his greatest anti-theft device.
@@stefinatrix3426 yes it would be a great theft deterrent, unless the thieves are stupid and there are plenty of them.
That ironworker will run forever just keep it greased ! As for punches and dies don't bother making your own they are cheap enough from American Punch Company . I work for a big steel shop in LIC, NY and I have been to the Peddinghaus factory in Bradley Illinois 3 times . That machine was probably made in Germany . And parts from Peddinghaus are still avilable .
www.americanpunchco.com/
Good Job with you its how can I do this I like tks H D RIDER ohio
Nothing is off limits!
38/4 = 9½ tons or not wheel smart.
Edit: Peace.
you dont need to join any gym rest of your life, heaviest job done,
I like to push my body to its breaking point at least once a week, keeps me young
ein langer Weg von Hückeswagen bis in die USA.