*Ladies, if you were dating a guy and he took you on a romantic trip to the Maldives, would that make you feel special? Ok, now imagine how you would feel if you discovered you were the 50th girl he took to the Maldives - how would you feel then? This is why body count matters.*
The question to women is, can you date a guy who has slept with your sister and your bestfriend??? can you date a boy who has slept with half of the girls in your class?? Im sure they will say NO! so yea.. body count does matter
The woman that said, "Why would you want to know? It's only going to make you upset." That proves that body count matters. If it didn't, it wouldn't make you upset.
Honestly, guys and girls shouldn’t ask each other-I think we can all low key tell without asking. You see a woman and you can definitely guess nowadays. Girls won’t admit it (and I’m sure plenty don’t consciously realize it) but they only go for guys with high body counts. Which means they can tell too.
Thats why we cant listen to this channel. It will hurt a lot of men out here and honestly its hurting the women too. Lies may FEEL better in the moment, but will leave you depressed for good reason later.
@@altonsafe Yeah. All they say is "get over it". But when it comes to them to get over something, it's "you should accept me with my flaws". Modern VVomen are not clowns, they are the entire circus!!!
*Women don’t care about a man’s past much, it’s the future SHE can have, the future HE will give her. Men know a woman’s history predicts her future quite accurately. No man wants the financial risk or potential loss of his children an uncommitted woman represents. A high female sexual partner background means she does not attach deep commitment. Life is going to happen, the ups & downs. Women don’t withstand the lows of life very well.*
Agree, it's also a lie, we all judge people by their past... if you've killed someone, if you've been to jail, or whatever else i wouldn't feel comfortable in your company and so is for everyone...
You should 100% judge someone on their past. That's why anyone with an IQ over 2 isn't just turning serial killers loose from prison after a few years.
I will add that people find it ok to have a look at your CV, verify your work experience, call previous employers for references, demand clear criminal record so that you can work for them. But when you are choosing the partner for your life, someone you want to have family with and basically split your material possessions 50/50 after marriage, suddenly, that is a problem to ask about one's past.
@@Fujtajblus Also if men and women are in their 30 and women spend those 10 years doing job, getting promotions and being high earner she wont look for men who spend his 10 years working on minimal wage job with no perspective
I've had 6 gfs since I was 16, 2 relationships with sex since 27, as a male, and I have 0 regrets. I don't need to stack body counts, its demeaning, damages outlook on intimacy and relationships and life. I have omitted porn almost 90% since college, and now early 30s, single, I hope to find a good woman, not just sex. I wish to have family, kids, love. But I would NEVER do this with a woman who had 5+ guys before me at the age of sub 30. I get relationships end, and they imply, sex, but in my case, if she´d have 5+, that means she either leapt thru 20s, or had sex as a teen, which is kinda disgusting to me. She could be a great person, but body count DOES MATTER to every good man. It doesn't matter to players, guys who only want sex. I'm a regular family oriented guy. Kid: Daddy, do you love mommy? Me: Yes, but 20 other guys loved her before me. Kid: O
not loved...respected...and not only you...the rest of your family too...if a woman wants to have a husband and kids she should respect them even before they arrive...im not marrying to a bitch and i am not allowing my children to be sons of a bitch
Yet for most women it's the complete opposite. Ask a reasonably attractive woman if she wants to be with a guy who's a virgin or has had 1/2 partners...or would she rather get with the guy whose slept with dozens of women? Most will pick the guy whose been with dozens of women. In her mind the guy whose been with dozens of women is the more "desirable" guy.
*Body count is NOT the same as asking how many times you've had sex.* A high body count is a sign of commitment issues, stability issues, and possibly self-respect. You can have sex with the same guy for a decade and only him and that wouldn't be a red flag because it shows commitment and stability, but having sex with different guys over a decade and never settling down is a red flag. A man's worst fear is his girl getting pregnant and not knowing if it's his kid or not. This is why men who are serious about you look at your body count as a sign of commitment and stability. If you're increasing your body count by 20 ever year, that's a very understandable red flag.
Thats unrelated to bodycount unless u get pregnant. Once again bodycount matte4s because men are terrified of being compared or that she loves D so much she might cheat on you. Data shows that men.and women care equally much about it though.
Why do I get the idea that all these females giving out acceptable body count numbers are basically just saying what there’s is and justifying it as ok? Also they clearly don’t get it. Most guys do care about this, and a guy isn’t going to stop caring about it if the number is only 30 and not 45
2 here, 33, want a real, decent woman. But she could be a saint, if she has a high body count given moral circumstances, she's not somebody I would see as a mother of my children. Its just life facts.
There are a lot of statistics showing that for women - data doesn't show the same thing so much for men - body count is correlated with health issues, commitment issues and mental issues. Sure, doesn't mean it applies for every single case, but in general it holds up
Yep, something like 80% chance of a happy marriage if the woman has one partner compared to 25% if she had five or more. When around half of marriages end in divorce men should not be shamed for having standards for who's finger to put a ring on
@@moosevision8113 The stat is that women with a body count of 5 or less have a 80% chance of maintaining a healthy and strong marriage and are more able to pair bond with there significant other. Where as women with a body count of 5 and more have a 20% chance of having a healthy marriage and are more prone to divorce and are less likely to pair bond.
Body count absolutely matters. It's a statistical fact that the higher the count, the higher the likelihood of infidelity. It also affects pair bonding. So yes, it matters.
@@andersnielsen6044 , No it is actual studies the US government agencies have done, Roughly 86% of women who had 1-2 partners prior to marriage are happy in their current marriage, and 38% of women with 6-10 partners prior to marriage are happy in their current marriage, it also has been shown the higher a woman's body count, that it suppresses chemicals in her body that helps her bond to anyone particular partner.
Courtney: *"Should men care about a woman's body count?"* Woman: *"NO! Because they're allowed to have 100 bodies and we're NOT? Not that I do, but I'm just saying."* This is the funniest moment that proves just how serious a woman's body count matters to both men AND women. So she defends women sleeping around frivolously, only to turn around and say that she doesn't do that same thing? You can't make this stuff up.
You've been watching "Two and Half Men" haven't you lol A fake character that also happens to be that top 1%er who is rich, young, decent looking and doesn't have to work with a nice Beach House.
My number, pre-marriage at 23, was zero. My wife's number also was zero. I get that not everyone is going to have that experience in life, but I am so thankful that I did, and it makes everything that I experience with her that much more special. I cannot fathom racking up a count in the 20's. It's basic econ, all other things being equal, the greater a quantity of a thing, the less it is worth. A person's count in some way has to be reflective of the value they place on intimacy.
Exactly! Women with high body counts or even dudes won't ever experience something new and unique with their significant other. They've already done that with other partners. Sex in a car, on the beach, in a stairwell, on an airplane, done this position and that position and put in that hole and that one and all the other sexual things you could have explored with the love of your life, but you or her have already done that with all your other partners and now sex is just a chore instead of a form of intimacy.
You are one of likely very few and good for you, honestly. My friends brother married his one and only girlfriend and they were together for 5 years (they got together in high school) before they married.
My sister has been with so many guys now that she is unable to truly love a guy. Guy she is with now does everything for her, cooks her food, doesn’t care she has a kid, takes her to his beach house on weekends… and she still leaves her options open (even though she is 32). Emotionally damaged and she can’t properly bond with a guy anymore. So yes, body count matters, and it affects women far more than men.
And that’s what really grinds my gears with these women today. They’re two faced af with no accountability and the studies prove it. Studies correlated the higher the body count the more likely divorce, infidelity, and unhappiness. Instead of just owning up to it so men can avoid them they shame and degrade them so they grow guilty minds where they feel bad for not liking them.
Pretty much the same for one of my sisters, who knows what man she with right now and honestly neither me nor the rest of the family gives a shit anymore about her stupidities. Women with a high body counter = High risk of being unable to pair bound which makes them something sane men should stay away from.
It's just flat out DISGUSTING. From a deep primal level, the thought of dozens of dix going balls deep in a chick absolutely repulses men with self respect. It's so gross.
Just remember ladies, you’re the gatekeeper of sexual opportunity….but men are the gatekeeper of marriage opportunity. As long as men set the standard for who they want to marry, your opinion on your body count doesn’t matter. Either be the woman your dream-guy wants you to be, or do whatever you want and live with what’s left.
Preach!!!! And let's be real if a woman wants to sleep around that's her choice but she needs to understand that if she does she's no longer in a position to be demanding of men cause she's already set the bar so low for herself countless times.
It's not just self-respect, it's also healthcare. I require a full medical workup including blood testing if I'm going to date you. And frankly, I'd still be hesitant about it due to the fact that some STDs can remain in a state of dormancy for decades before signs of infection are exhibited. Notice how not a single one of these women (including Courtney) mentioned the very real health-related dangers of being wanton.
Just that fact that they felt an urgent need to say something like "Oh no, not like I slept with so many people" after telling about their friends with high BC, speaks for itself. At gut-level they perfectly know how it matters.
As a guy who was invisible to women in his 20s, the very idea of even being ABLE to rack up a huge body count by the time you’re 25 or so is just… foreign to me.
It all depends on your situation and your desire to go out and date. I don't want a relationship so no stress there, I've lived around a big downtown area for many years on and off, and have been living alone for 3+ years now. To age 25 was fairly modest, ~20 at that point. Age 25-28(now).....🤣🤭 Safe sex is the best sex 👍
It 100% matters to men with options, as they view women with high BC as useful for sex only and not long-term relationships. High BC for men is viewed positively for women, regardless of what they say, because they view that man as capable of achieving sexual success...usually due to him achieving other areas of success (money, status...). Any woman giving away her most prized possession early in life is delusional if she thinks it doesn't matter to men.
Women don't want a cheater either. Purity doesn't matter as much to them but if they're a whore they're more likely to want a fuckboy and they would probably end up cheating on each other and eventually have an open relationship.
When men get over a count of 50, or 100, their pair bonding abilities drop linearly, yet not even close to a 45° angle, yet when women get over a count of 2, their pair bonding abilities exponentially decline. This is why it matters to men. Women will compare&judge 24/7 and it gets worse with each lay. Men can separate that. Some can pass 100 bodies and have no issues dedicating&bonding. Men&women are different folks
But if women accept that a high body count for them is bad, why would they view a high body count for men as good seeing that this creates an externality producing high body count women which is bad for them? Why would they want to be with a man who destroys women's dating prospects?
At the end of the day - no matter how painful - transparency and communication is the best way to go about it. If the man isn't comfortable with your body count then it's best for both parties to just be honest and move forward from there. If it doesn't work out then it doesn't work out. As a man, I can say it would hurt a lot more to fall in love with someone only to found out 6+ months down the road that she lied about their body count. Bottom line is it's deceitful and it makes us feel like we got fooled which is a problem. Add to that the potential of body count mattering to that person, it's just a recipe for disaster. Why risk letting resentment fester in your partner in the long run? Just be honest from the jump
A women can have a high body count but she has to accept the idea of putting aside any thoughts of being seen as wife material because unfortunately she will always be comparing the poor bastard she hooks up with to the 50 other Chad's that she let run a train on her.
I'm 50, and to hear young girls now saying 30 partners (!!!) might be too high suggests we've been on a downward slide. In my day, having as many as 20 partners (by your mid-20s, say) meant you were queen of the hos. It was and is an outcome far more attainable by women than men, but few people respected guys for having that many. It was "guys will be guys if you let them," yeah, but not respect-worthy.
Right? I'm sitting here in my early 40s watching this with an expression of a deer in the headlights. Dunno if I'm supposed to feel underserved or lucky. Geez!
Dude... no kidding. Maybe I'm weird but if a girl told me "10" I'd be grossed out. These videos are fascinating but mostly make me really happy I'm married.
The idea of whether a man “should” care is irrelevant, the simple fact is that the overwhelming majority of men DO care. Can’t get mad when a man rejects you for not meeting his standards, while you reject men for not meeting yours. Normal, healthy, consenting adults want what they want, we “shouldn’t” be shamed for it, but that’s rarely the case. Oftentimes reality doesn’t conform to our expectations, better to learn to accept these things.
@@no_regerts5176 If a woman wants to get married, she needs to be marriageable, that standard is determined by what the prospective husband wants, not what the woman thinks he should want, just like it’s a woman’s right to determine who she’ll sleep with and whose proposal she’ll accept.
@@danielrobinson7824 true that man. The thing is, women ignore this type of stuff for the sake of being sanctimonious, but the thing is you got to have respect for yourself when it comes to these sorts of things. You got to have values in certain things to align with the man you want, you attract what you ARE. If you’re being irresponsible and “free” doing whatever with hopes of no consequences then clearly that’s gonna hit u in the face. We got to have a moral ground.
Had a coworker approach me, we started talking and this came up. I knew she had a colorful past. She said, "well what does the past have to do with the present? I like to leave the past in the past." I responded, "it depends. How much of that past could potentially wreck our future?" She said, "that's perceptive. I've never had anyone phrase it to me like that!" Nothing wrong with a past but she just had a ton of baggage stemming from a high count so that was scary for me. I liked her but I had to back out!
@@ryanshaw7113 Well we care about a past because we feel that it indicates a potential pattern of destructive tendencies that could as Torrence L. put it wreck a future. But people can change and get better. Guess it depends on who you are willing to gamble on, whether you are optimistic about some people.
Never in a million years would I engage in this topic at work especially a female. You’re asking for a sexual harassment claim to hr. If you say you don’t respect women with high body counts and she don’t like it, you’re toast might as well start looking for another job
@@brianwaller7383 Everythings good, no one lost their job! Nothing you mentioned even came close to happening! Even if she was that type, everyone knew that she had a crush on me and approached me. It wasn't a secret! Several couples who met there ended up getting married. Most are still married! My boss and his wife met there & is still together. This goes all the way up to Corporate as well. It was encouraged, celebrated & not frowned upon. We just needed to not let it get in the way of work. As 1 of 8 Sr. Directors part of my responsibilities is HR!
I used to think that body count didn't matter. But now, in a long term happy marriage (8 years) and with three kids, I start questioning what kind of values am I trying to teach my kids. Because I hope that I can guide my kids to be better people than I and my wife are. Body count for man and woman is extremally important. What people today don't like to admit is that your body count will come out at some time. I have heard 2 stories of a woman saying she had a very low body count and then 10-15 years later at a party, old friends accidently talk about her past. Now she is a liar, and she can not be trusted. In both stories they got a divorce, and when though a lot of pain. The truth is that men want women with very low body counts.
Exactly women are gate keepers to sex and men are for relationships.. its like saying yeah i been broken up 25 times equivalent to a womans body count of 25 men..
Of course there is a quality to a women's sex act after not having any chastity. It is not better and very likely diseased. I is a statistical fact that men trying to have sex with prostitutes usually cannot achieve an erection, it is not a pleasant experience.
Higher BC also means higher risk of STD's, unwanted pregnancies & other problems. Even when practicing safe sex because accidents happen......It's just common sense, there's a good reason why for hundreds/thousands of years. People taught the idea of waiting until you find the right person/marriage, before sex. In the 20th century that idea started to get tossed out the window. Now sometime in the 21st century, people will realize why it wasn't a good idea to sleep with everyone & why it was best to wait until marriage.
@@michaelbrinks8089 Exactly !!!! I had often said this to myself when going though some heartbreak that involved a girl "This is probably why Traditionally you weren't supposed to do it like this." Old school was not to rush it. For example, my father had to make the journey back to Mexico (1950's), talk to his father and grandfather, then all three of them would go talk to my mom's grandfather and her father to ask for her hand in marriage. This took a lot of planning and time. My mom's family then had to vet my father and his family. After all that he could then officially talk to her, and that consisted of him being able to go to her window, that was barred, and her mom and dad, and the rest of the family outside watching. They've been married for about 65 years now. Crazy when I actually write it down like this. The answers are so clear and simple. I will raise my kids to be traditional.
The way I see it you cant have a high body count and high standards at the same time. Imagine, having a woman demand that you make a $100K to be in a relationship with her, only to find out the last 50 dudes she slept with were broke or made substantially less.
@@tdscoop You can actually do that if you put a new engine in it first. Likewise, a person with a high body count is capable of learning and changing the tendencies that lead them to that point.
a woman saying "body count does not matter" means "I want non responsibility for my actions, no accountability for me projecting all my past trauma onto my future partners, and me not being able to pair bond with my male counterpart, because I'm already thinking about the next guy." Pay attention... body count affects mostly your mind, not your body.
I personally think that the higher the body count, the more difficult it’ll be to connect with the person long term. Cause that said person with a high body count knows they got options and that little thing will always be in the back of their head. We have a number of statistics showing that people with higher body counts are more likely to get a divorce.
Having a ton of sex with a ton of people is an important trait to who you are as a person. It's also a huge tell tale sign if a woman is capable of being monogmous and honest. And if you're trying to get sex out of her on the first couple dates and she's so easy with everyone else but not on you then you know that they're more after your wallet and wants your stability. Which means you'll just be a tool to them.
Body count should matter for both genders. I don't understand how it should not matter since if someone has been over 50 relationships than you need to consider why these relationship's didn't work out.
I have no intention of asking "What is your body count?" to a potential partner. I will ABSOLUTELY ask "Do you think body count matters?" however, because her answer to that contains all the information I need to know about her. If she says it doesn't matter she doesn't value sexual intimacy highly enough (for my taste) and is probably not the girl for me.
Gotta love how these girls’ brains work. So they’re all pretty much on the same boat of “not judging someone based on their past” but if you think about that for literally 3 seconds, you immediately see all the issues with that. If you knew that a guy beat up all the women he was with, would you look the other way and still go out with him? What if this guy cheated on every one of his 25 girlfriends?? You’re gonna sit there and tell me you’re going to “keep an open mind” and look past that?? What information about a man are you using to determine someone’s value?? Their potential?? Even that is based on actions taken IN THE PAST. They’re just a bucket of meaningless words these girls. Not trying to be mean here, but I can’t stand the BS
I'm not supporting promiscous lifestyle and i believe it impacts the person which is living it, but how is sex comparable to things like beating or cheating?
@@c.c6909 well I’m not making a direct comparison between those things, but my point is that almost of all them said that “their past doesn’t matter”. That’s absurd. Most of them aren’t even 25 yet right? You think a normal 25 year old has 20 heartbreaks? Assuming your body count is 20? You really think those are all meaningful relationships that just ended? If I hear of someone that is 25 and has that many bodies down, you can at least assume that there’s a high likelihood that you might get used for sex and not have anything meaningful in the end.
I don't know about character. It does give you some insight into a woman's level of self-esteem, however. Low self-esteem women are great for short-term relationships and quick sex, but a disaster for long-term relationships or marriage (for those who still want to participate). So it depends on what you are looking for.
Body count matters because it correlates with a few things: 1) being bad at picking long term partners. 2) disease risk 3) cheating (they know they can get someone better in at least one way... And when bored, one better thing is enough to ignore everything else) risk.
Not necessarily. If you're going for a long term partner, sexual compatibility matters. How are you going to find out if you're compatible or not? Fill out a survey?
@@nimz8521 If you need 100 partners to find one you're sexually compatible with for a long-term relationship... you are HORRIBLE at communicating expectations beforehand, or at choosing folks you think can meet your expectations. Communications skills are crucial to long term relationships.
@@nimz8521 I have been around the block a few times. For me, the number one way to discover if you are sexually compatible without having sex is french kissing. A girl who does not want to means absolutely she is not attracted physically to me. A girl who is willing but there is no chemistry in the dancing of the tongues means there won't be in bed. But, If she is willing and there is that chemistry it absolutely correlates to sexual compatibility. So far, it has been foolproof and unfortunately I married a girl who said she can't french kiss till marriage as a christian. Boy was I stupid. She didn't french kiss afterwards and there was no sexual desire by her at all, even though I gave her orgasms each time.
@@Dudelee1 they are quite associated because "accuse others of that which you are guilty" is nothing new. A cheater can infect their partner and then go "hey you must have given me that disease! You must have cheated! " quite easily to cover up their own infidelity . But you are right, split into 3 items.
It absolutely matters, someone's past is a great indicator of their current character. I've never met a man that didn't care about their long term partners body count.
@@oemj7147 Never heard of such a fact, either in biology class nor later. It's fine that you're a virgin that is exclusively dating virgins, but that is still only your opinion/dating preference.
The double standard on this issue exists solely because men care about body count and women don't. Saying that men should not care about body count is to assume that men and women should be the same, which is a biological impossibility.
Virgin women aren't gonna want a guy who's been with 50 girls. I'm waiting for marriage and will only accept a virgin. If I'm saving myself and have control, then he should too.
@@daniellehotsky1776 It depends what stage you are in life. It has less todo with maturity. If you are looking for something real and you are still in your early twenties it matters but if you are a jaded 30 yearold who has already been through lots of life it doesn't.
@@daniellehotsky1776 It depends what relationship you're looking for. If you're into polyamory or serial monogamy, it doesn't matter much. However, if you're looking for lifelong monogamy, then body count is absolutely an important indicator.
I get the biological preference than men have towards low body count. When I was younger it mattered to me, but now that I'm older and experienced its not really a factor. A low body count isn't a direct indicator if she's a decent human being. It has more to do with a biological insecurity. Also, few people that about why women would prefer a "lower" body count. No its not nearly as important to her, but she doesn't want to share her resources with other women. I assure you. Women want a guy who's desirable and experienced enough to please her, but not a guy who's either not good enough to lock down, poses an STD risk, and/or unable to commit to her to provide his resources. So yes, women care about body count. They just don't desire total virgins and basically don't want a body count that is as high as your age.
A woman should worry about a man's body count on the basis of whether he got any previous partners pregnant. Say a man named Louis meets a woman named Tamiko, and both of them are around 30 years of age. After about 5 dates, Tamiko asks Louis if he has slept with women before, and his answer is "at least 10". Her main concern should then be how many of those 10+ women became pregnant after they slept with him, because this would translate to him having issues with being a parent if any of those women did give birth to a child.
Your past is the blueprint for your future, so your past matters a lot, same thing applies to body count, if it's ridiculously high it's a major prediction you'd be unsatisfied in future relationships Edit: don't listen to women who says you shouldn't care about their body count, it's a recipe for disaster
Not a single one of these girls wants you to ask them about their body count which is pretty damn indicative of Chad getting the no strings attached plow nights and you have to pick up the scraps once these mid 20s women start hitting the end of their primes. Lord...
It 110% matters, having a high body count shows commitment issues and a number of other issues. This goes for BOTH men and women! If somebody downplays the loving act of sex for what it really is and simplifies it down to being like a handshake, then they've got some serious issues to sort out and I wouldn't want to date anybody who thinks of sex in that way. Where is the simple love anymore?
With maturity we should learn that life is not a porno, and that there are consequences for actions, too high a body count indicates a lack of principles, or concern for personal safety. It is not someone who holds relationships sacred, with whom one should start a family with.
Yeah… no. Men’s satisfaction goes up after 9 bodies- literally the exact opposite of a woman, who becomes statistically undateable and loses her pair bonding mechanism after that many
@@nickharris9218 men who sleep around are only seen as desirable by women who sleep around. No woman who saved herself would look at a man with a high body count and think “he’s a catch!”
@@nickharris9218 And what makes u thinks that a woman with no/low body count would want to marry a man like that? You have no business demanding something that u yourself are not.
This is really simple. A woman with a high body count is for entertainment only but not for taking seriously as a long-term relationship partner. Party with the party girls, but traditional women with traditional values are wife material. Its only the party girls with a high body count that are upset that they have to pay consequences for their own decisions.
Why would a traditional wife want a party boy like you? If you don't like party girls why are you having sex with them? I would be concerned if I was dating you, clearly you feel contempt for women who sleep with you...
@@dukeonwheels What do you think is more damaging? A guy having unprotected sex with 100 women in a year or a woman having unprotected sex with 100 men in a year?
Here I am thinking a high body is like 5-7 people and after watching this video and hearing 25-50 plus is a high body count. Holy cow!! Body count matters for both sides because it tells me how much self control you have and how much you respect the other sex. It really baffles me how both sides can't control keeping their pants on in any sort of dating scene. Here I am looking for someone who wants to go apple picking or the local christmas parade and most of the world is out there just trying to screw each other.
let me put it that way: You should never buy a rental car after it is phased out by the rental company. Blown out gasket might be the least of your issues.
“Does body count matter?” First girl: “UMmm I think it matters to some people, and if it matters to you then that’s fine…” Ma’am she’s directly asking YOU the question. Crazy how some people will talk in circles.
Yes&no questions are hard for women, because they are emotional creatures, while we are rational beings. They express Thoughts with "I feel" where men say I think, in my experience, or what I've learned. Big difference. Notice Courtney asks a do you think question, and the one girl replies ummmmm I feel.... Can't blame them. They're wired different. Many women can think critically and express candidly yet many protect themselves by appealing to what makes them come off as a good girl, even if they don't believe in what they say
For me, body count is less about sexual experience and much more about capacity/desire to engage in relationships. Let's face it, once body count rises past zero, there's almost no correlation between body count and sexual experience. What a "high" body count does represent is either the person is never in a committed long-term relationship or is cheating while in such relationships. The latter is a deal-breaker for me and the former is a major red flag: at a minimum, the person has not developed the skills necessary to maintain a relationship.
Or, you know, they might just enjoy/have enjoyed to be single and mingle, at least for a while ? Not everyone who does/did that automatically is or was unable to form meaningful relationships.
@@Nr4747 Where did I write unable? We generally don't teach people the skills and attitudes necessary to sustain long term relationships, so they need to be learned through practice -- and such skills are pretty much necessary to have a chance at success. A history of limited long-term relationships is a red flag if that is important to me. Past performance cannot guarantee future performance, but it is typically the only signal available to one.
Monique is a true 304 through and through, comparing sex to a handshake like it's "just an activity". What a scalawag 🙅🏽♂️ You can tell her I said that. Quote me
I suspect most of these girls have shivered a few timbers. I was expecting that in their twenties they might be talking about a body count between 2-5, not every guy at Kent State.
@@debaronAZK There is a video about this from this creator and all the women except for one was fine with it. That one woman was just paying lip service for the first minute or so and then went along with it. So what other BS excuses are you going to come up with? That you are different and the exception? The exception to the rule doesn't matter the rule does.
For anyone planning on being in a relationship at some point, body count has to matter regardless of whether you're a man or woman. For the people who aren't bothered they should do as they please. And yes asking someone their number isn't great but once in a relationship you shouldn't have to lie because the best relationships are all about honesty and trust. Also without doubt the best sex is with 1 person over time based on discovery not 1 night stands with lots of people.
Relationship sex is often better than one night stands. However, relationship sex gets dull for both parties after a few years - even with experimenting. Women actually get bored far quicker than men do. It's just biology.
Unfortunately not a lot of people are ever going to get this for life. Our society is just a bunch of sex in the city, kids out of wedlock, and depression.
Yes it does matter to us men....a lot. A woman with "too much" experience on this field is not desirable (at least for high value men with options), cause her past indicates that either her choices were poor (falling for chads and players who seek for casual sex) or that she failed to properly commit to a long term relationship with a good man.
Men are idealists and women are rational praglatists and it drives men fucking crazy. Sorry but it's often true. My experience has been seeing men think incredibly irrationally and emotionally with women. "I need him to have money" for example is a cold bloodedly rationalist and logical view. What makes you guys so butthurt is you adhere to an irrational code of honour.
What is logical about caring about someones past when we are in the present? What is logical about using someones past to define them and judge them when it is a known fact that people change, beliefs change, and opinions change?
@@Blub2cool What's the simple reality is that people don't change. Especially from stuffs that gives u heavy doses of dopamine, like hook-up culture. There's a reason why there are far more addi-cts to everything, than the number of rec0vered people. Moreover, Men Care about the sta-tus of their partner. Their partner's stat-us would affect their sta-tus. And Men are competitive, and territorial. When 50 dudes h-ad h-er, she won't feel spe-cial to a m-an. When women's standards increase, the more of a c0nquest they become. And When she has lesser part-ner c0unt, it shows that she is a discipl-ined w0man, who val-ues her b0dy. Sh-e is a much safer inve-stment of time.
I’m happy this conversation is held by women. I cared about bodycount for a long time. And honestly I’ve been shamed for it. Aspecially being called insecure. But when I hear a bodycount of a girl I’m dating, I never think about “damn, I have to step up my game to compete with all these guys” but I think “ this is not attractive”. But a lot of people sleep around to get validation. That’s insecurity
As a guy with a highish body count (15-20) I can tell you that for me it was 100% for validation. I felt alone and depressed in college and spent a ton of time on dating apps and would sleep with anyone who said yes. No standards, just cause it would make me feel better the next day. Stems completely from a need for validation
@@awsambdaman At least you have enough self reflection to realize why you acted the way you did, you're not trying to downplay your past as if it never happened.
@@wesleygriffin7857 I agree totally. I've commented that a man with high body count really has to work at it as well as has to be pretty good looking I'm guessing. And I'm not saying that's great either but compared to an average woman that could easily rack up a large body count if she has a similar sexual drive to most average men. So in my assumption an average women out there has a higher body count then the average man imo. And that leads to if your talking about a woman with a really high body count or presumption of one, since they lie just like men do, your best bet is to say have a nice day.
@@wesleygriffin7857 I would have loved for Courtney to ask their thoughts on the statement "Men sleep with who they can. Women sleep with who they want"
You should ask Stella if my past as an amphetamine addict shouldn't matter to her. Best prediction of future behavior is past behavior. And the Maldives comment was also spot on. As well as the master key saying.
@@angmori172 Well, for starters, congratulations! Getting and staying clean is not easy at all… That aside you yourself are a prime example of why the past shouldn’t be the most important metric by which you judge someone. You’re ability to get clean is an example of how, despite past failures, people can change and evolve. I would be less concerned with the particulars of what occurred in a woman’s past, and more concerned about what she learned from it, and what her present mindset is as a result.
@@renardbennett75 I made that point elsewhere on not judging someone by their past. It's circumstantial and look at actions, not words. I'm an alcoholic and have been sober for a while and have faced my demons and learned proper coping mechanisms. I've been tried and tested in sobriety and I prevailed; I won't go back. And yet I still have that held against me about 50% of the time. However I'll add the caveat that in many cases, when it comes to any form of addiction, women hold it against men not because of them specifically, but because they've already had bad experiences with it in the past and it's not a risk they want to take again. I understand that and don't blame them one bit. I've told women I really click with who said they were unsure or hesitant, "If you're questioning it because you're worried I'll relapse one day, move on. Because constantly questioning or being worried all the time will cause an issue and undue stress eventually. So just avoid people like us altogether". So really there's no one right answer to whether or not to hold someone's past against them; there are too may factors.
This video just shows how a healthy psycho-spiritual perspective of sex has been deteriorated even in the minds of supposed decent girls in today's society. Body count definitely matters. Sex is sacred.
Body count matters to me because it makes me doubt whether or not the woman genuinely loves and is attracted to her husband, not just settling for him.
*Most women are “settling” when getting married, 99% of them will NEVER EVER admit that. A small minority of women getting engaged accept marriage proposals from men who are not from among their ideal preferences. Women LOVE to shop, and LOVE to get things important to them which tick off as many checklist desires as possible. This fundamental female trait has been eroded by the recent barrage of imagery and associated emotion which have lengthened the “must have” list to nearly impossible. Big earners who are handsome, well endowed, loyal, faithful, understanding, willing to meet nearly every wife request, desire & preference are extremely rare, because of female subjectivity for each requirement.*
"don't want to know, its just going to make you upset..." says it all, i.e., IT'S IMPORTANT! Most people don't ask because its so important they fear the answer! Women have been encouraged to be promiscuous "just like the guys" and also encouraged to believe it doesn't matter (but it does to most of us)!
Stella is torn because she's getting old and her count is likely so high that no one sees her as wife stock. Women get past 2, their bonding abilities drop exponentially, men get past 50, and they're excitement ability drops linearly
@@LatimusChadimus She's not old, but I can see an argument for people thinking that at least half of her prime is behind her, so if she waits around another 2 years, it's going to be a bad deal.
almost 30 and still a virgin. The number of times I've been rejected for what seems like that being the main reason is staggering. Women don't seem to trust a man that hasn't been with other women. It's like they need the social proof otherwise they think your a loser. It's not like I'd outright refuse if the opportunity presented itself, but I don't want to just sleep with anybody that isn't committed long term. It's a real struggle to reign in my urges and keep a level head. Maybe that's why they think I'm not interested or unattracted to them. Honestly it seems like all the money and effort I've put into finding a partner has been worthless. That or maybe I am actually a loser.
Could just lie about it. Fake it till you make it right? Who cares about their shitty opinion anyways. If a woman cares about that sort of thing, she's just looking to use you anyways. So just use her back.
First girl I ever had sex with, she had no idea I was a virgin at the time. It didn't even matter anyways, cause after a couple months I stopped seeing her and was onto the next. It doesn't matter what they think, it matters how they perceive you.
Why do you tell them ? The only person who knew I was a virgin was my roommate and he was leaving in a month and I never saw him again. I think what harmed me the most is that I was always afraid to lose any girl that I had a connection with by prematuring going for it. Mate. Girls want to smash also, most are taking what is coming to them and if you wait to long, they'll ditch you. What was helpful for me is that to start I had to lie to get it and once I was experienced enough, I was humble and secure in myself. To learn how to lie, is one of the most important aspect in dating, otherwise most dudes wouldn't even have a chance with girls. Do you. First you do you. Do some crash tests. Take a girl, sell her a beautiful lie, get some experience, ditch her and if she stays, you win. If she leaves, you win ! Go for it !
If my mom would've been sleeping around in her youth my dad would've never chosen her. My mom respects herself, and know that a high quality woman wouldn't participate in such. I'm really greatful my mom instilled this standard of women in me
Those were different times and women didn’t have as much options. I sometimes think about that. My mom wouldn’t of dated my dad because he was poor and short. lol
Completely understand that this channel is mainly for men, but I think it may be beneficial to conduct a similar interview with only men as the guests. Get men from different salary levels (blue collar, white collar, no collar) Ask them the same questions, and let women see EXACTLY what men are looking for in a potential life partner. The more I see the answers that women give to these types of questions, the more I understand that men know EXACTLY what women want, and women, generally, have no clue as to what men want. Maybe by hearing from men, women can maybe begin to understand. Great video, keep up the great work.
22:44 “But then you could say zero and a guy would be like, why didn’t anyone want to be with you?” No man has ever made this statement. The only time I’ve ever seen a man be apprehensive about taking a woman’s virginity is because he didn’t want to “sullly” her, if he was unsure about her for a long term relationship.
I literally broke up with a Virgin girl because I knew that I didn't feel strongly for her and I wanted her first time to be with someone who would really care for her.
I think body count does matter to most people, it’s just that a lot of them are afraid to voice their opinion because it may not sound as “politically correct” to say that body count matters to them.
I believe it does matter. As a man who has a low count due to only pursuing relationships, I'd be wary of a potential partner whose number is significantly high. To me, that might be a sign of incompatibility in how we view sex and relationships in general. Obviously people could change and there could be a variety of factors at play, but that's just as a rule of thumb for me. I've always been relationship-minded and want a woman who shares those values.
I feel the same and since I'm still young (20), there really isn't a possibility of calling their sexual past a past since it would be like a year or two ago..
Body count basically determines a person's standards and their ability to pair-bond. A person with a body count of 3 is much more likely to pick out their partner more carefully. A person with a body count of 100 probably has a record of trading sex for hamburgers, and is so psychologically broken that they lack the ability to love someone or pair-bond.
People say it’s a preference but for me it’s more of a standard. I hold myself to a certain standard so I hold my partner to the same standard. Just like I am a honest and loyal person so of course I want my partner to be that as well.
I think part of the issue about modern dating that is not being answered is: What is the goal of dating? In the past was to find a lifelong partner. What is the goal today? Seems like a lot of people are not looking to settle down until 30. Hear woman call the first marriage is for practice or starter. How many women/men hold what view?
You can see it, hear it, and feel it in every one of these girls answers with their tone and body language that body count obviously matters to both sides.
These videos are great for allowing modern women to confirm what most men know already. It's good to be informed but at the same time it's sad because it really makes it difficult to find even a halfway decent woman if this is the majority. These types are to be avoided at all costs.
9:55 - "Over 30 ("bodies") is a cut off" ... I remember a result of a survey I read some years ago. An average of sexual partners for men was just under 10. Huge study group. On top of that those results were inflated by a very small % of men with a stupidly high count - and under 10 was still the end result 🤐 Even a potato-shaped woman could easily rack up 30 in a fortnight, not a lifetime... but she has no idea, so drops 30 thinking the number is "conservative".
You sound more hurt than anything. Nothing is wrong with a high body count if you are okay with your significant other having a high body count. Nothing is wrong with a low body count if you live up to the same expectation.
@@KJ-od8wq Please, try to avoid projecting your ideas of any hidden meaning behind what I wrote. It couldn't be simpler but if you want me to I will "spell it out" for you - dating "culture" shifted dramatically in recent years. What would have been perceived as unacceptable and promiscuous to the extreme just a few decades go is now viewed by many as "conservative" because the truth is even uglier. And your point is factually correct but falls on its face if taken a step further - nothing is wrong with having AIDS as long as your significant other is fine with you having AIDS. Nothing is wrong with not having AIDS as long as you live up to the same expectation... You can insert anything negative there (I used AIDS, but you can put "gambling debt", "drug addiction", "alcoholism") and it just reveals itself as a piece of "circular logic". High body count HAS negative consequences both physical and psychological. You may want to remain in a fantasy bubble land, but reality is out there waiting for you.
@@Kwodlibet You are upset I am drawing a conclusion about you from what you wrote, yet you did the exact same thing with the girl in the video with the idea of being “conservative.” You’re already contradicting yourself just because I did exactly what you did (intentionally). I wouldn’t call that “circular logic.” I would call that “having a consistent value system,” which in my opinion not having contradictory values is very important to have. What one perceives as negative is relative, as you should have realized during the video, I.e. some not wanting a body count too high but some also not wanting a body count too low. Some people may want their person they are with having a high body count though, and some may want their significant other to be a virgin; what is perceived as good for one can be perceived as bad for another. You say “gambling debt is bad” but I can honestly think of 3 reasons off the top of my head as to why someone may actually like something like that when determining their significant other’s values. Over the years I have learned it is very hard to perceive others in a negative light for the decisions they have made. They might not live up to what I want, but that’s okay because they will live up to what others want. Similarly, I likely would not live up to what they want, but others will accept me for who I am. There is no “perfect person,” only people with preferences.
What is weird is that guys believe everything their girlfriends say about their EXs... how dumb do you have to be to not understand that you are getting your info from a source that wants to look good and doesn't want to take responsibility. Also women lie more than men especially about social happenings.
@@Lonewolfalchemist The relationship can be perfect yet people cheat, people cheat for a variety of reasons and not every single one has to do with being unsatisfied with the relationship. Some people literally get off on the idea of cheating
"So how many girls did you take here?" is a question I've been asked more than once by a date I took to [insert venue here]. They get visibly distraught when I don't answer or when I answer honestly. Damned if I do, damned if I don't. They want to feel special. Body count matters.
I think it would be very interesting getting the same perspective from men, asking them these questions. It's important for both males and females to understand how the opposite sex values these types of things. Woman wear white dresses on their wedding day, this symbolizes purity. The same way woman may prefer a man who is tall, confident, strong and wealthy, men value woman who are pure, beautiful and feminine. These are important conversations.
I had a friend with a very high body count. She didn't say how many but she did say more than a hundred, sometimes more than one in the same night. She wasn't my type and I don't think I was hers, so we were truly only friends/coworkers. But we really did like each other. Then she got sick, and died. She didn't die of anything sexual and was still only in her 30s. I have since realized how good she was, how nice she was, how kind she was, but if I am honest with myself I probably judged her on her sexual history. I truly regret that because she was much more than that. God bless her.
Here's the thing with body counts. They are important. The reason is compatibility. As a man in his 40s who has been in four relationships, three of which were physical (one was long distance), I find it important that they have the commitment and self respect. If they have too many, we wouldn't be compatible.
And I counter that to an extent. As a man in his 40s who has been married and divorced, and date women for around 2-3 months when we see if it is real or the honeymoon period ends and we go our separate ways as her true nature comes out. I fully expect people who have dated for 2-3 months to have slept together. And when it doesn't work out, on to the next. You don't find long term relationships by never dating. And it's a simple reality that if you date and spend 2, 3, 4 days a week together.....99% of people are going to have sex well before the 2-3 month mark. And it has nothing to do with a lack of self respect or inability to commit. Intimacy is human nature. As I've said elsewhere, you're an insecure child if you're in your 40s and asking for a body count. That's a kid's question.
@@Swearengen1980 you have your values, and I have mine. Obviously hook-up culture is what you're looking for. I'm not. You can call me an insecure child if it makes you feel better about the things you are insecure about. I don't feel the need to be doing the 2-3 month thing back to back. I'm not some college kid. 🤷♂️
@@jatbatman You completely mistook what I said and made unjustified assumptions I didn't say. I don't do hookups, I don't casually date. Every woman I date is with the intent for it to be long term, I'm in my 40s FFS. I don't even talk with more than 1 woman at a time because I don't believe you can give it a fair chance when you divide your attention among different people. And when you spend 20+ hours a week with someone, you get close to them quickly and intimacy/sex is a natural progression with most people. That's not "hook up" culture. I don't WANT each one to fall apart around 2-3 months, but that's generally the point when they finally show their deal breaking qualities like the absolute inability to compromise or communicate properly when your first conflicts arise. When they start talking about a future and realize they think they're going to dictate 100% of it like you're just tagging along. I'd add that people's dating styles are also different. I know a lot of people who date for 2 months and see each other for a 2 or 3 hour date every week. I've had first or second dates that lasted 12 hours and then we'd do it again the next day. The ones I click with right away, I'll spend more time with them in one weakened than you probably will with a woman you date in a month.
@@Swearengen1980 okay that sounds a bit better. It does sound like you may be looking for a deep connection before it's typically capable of naturally occurring. That may be part of the reason for them only lasting a few months. I totally understand that. If you were married for a long time, it's not unusual to want a deeper connection quickly. It can definitely lead to some issues though.
6:10. She said something very valid. I don’t want to fight for something no one is fighting for. Imagine being told what you fought for a bunch of people were just getting for free
Numbers over 10 will never stop growing, including after marriage. Most dudes can read signs. Also, the rule of 3 always applies. If she admits to 5, the accurate is closer to 15.
Body count matters because our past matters. Our past includes early-life traumas which can affect a person's self-esteem, self-worth, and values. I think those are pretty important qualities to consider in choosing a partner. I wouldn't want to put all my eggs into one basket with a girl who has a high body count from having a long-time struggle with self-esteem and attracting male attention is something she emphasizes an importance on. And that's just one example.
Is someone has changed what is the problem? You guys are ignoring the fact that people change. People have gotten over addictions and you think a woman cant change her mind about her sex life? Like come on. The last part really shows youre just scared she’ll leave which hints to your own self esteem issues. Because we see people change all the time, you’ve probably changed once in your life.
@@Blub2cool You seem to be mistaking the fact that people change, in that, that voids everything they’ve done. I’m sure people change and that can be a good thing, it does not change that the girl has been ran though in. It also has to do with how men and women value each other. Men value purity, and women value status.
I don't see why any emotionally secure man would even ask, let alone care. They should do a pole though so we can see how many insecure men are out there.
@@nimz8521 emotionally secure men are also successful men who dont want to share their life with a bad prospect long term. They won’t care if they’re into a lay for just a night though.
@@nimz8521 Plenty of studies have been done about pair bonding. A woman who had many partners is unable to pair bond. If you just want sex and not a bond, then sure why ask. But if you want a woman who will go the distance, the fewer men she has been with the more able she is to bond. and vice versa
The phrase ``emotionally secure`` is pretty new. After the age of 12 no one cares about men's emotions. Men in general do not want the women they are dating and perhaps marry to have been run through by the football team. It's embarising and disrespectful. A women having a high body count shows that she can't keep a man and that she's not worth a long term investment. Emotions have nothing to do with it. It's all facts. Is she worth my time and money, or is she just a one night stand. Now what I just said sounds hurtful and some might say women/relationships shouldn't be compared to the stock market. But take your emotions out of the way and step back and look at it. Every relationship you have in your life is a investment in your life. Be it family, friends or even dating/marriage a relationship with a women with a high body count reflects poorly on the man. The actions of a mans girlfriend/wife and kids all reflect back on the man/father. That is the main fact. Is this man respectable, look at his wife and kids. That will tell you a lot and it will the foundation of the relationship be a friendship or business relationship.
Body count absolutely matters. A good sign of infidelity. I'm not trying to risk my life's work on a floozie and I don't want someone run through. (Admittedly, my dating options have improved tremendously since I hit my 30s.)
Body count might be the best indicator of the probability for relationship longevity success. Couples that get married that have had no other sexual partners have a much better chance of lasting when compared to those who have had multiple sexual partners. Anyone who is interested in committing to someone else, should know the body count of the person they plan to commit to - at least a ballpark idea. A high body count can indicate a strong appetite for variation and a low ability to commit. It is an important question to ask and an important answer to be honest about. Above all a relationship needs to be built on trust and honesty. Just be honest and open about your past.
I'm 28 and I've only been with 4 women. And those were all serious relationships. Also, I value myself and I could go out and sleep with more women but I choose not to out of respect. It does come down to maturity and self respect.
💯💯 I’m 30 and only been with 1 woman. Never been in a relationship before or a date but out of respect I wouldn’t just sleep with any woman. Like you said it comes down to maturity and self respect.
You can have maturity and self respect and still get laid often...stop conflating this hierarchy with yall not getting laid😂😂😂...its like when a woman says Im single by choice.
@@dkvitaleme I was popular in high school, turned down a few offers from attractive women🤷♂️ all men arent the same. I dont value casual sex at all, and I am not tempted much either
@@dkvitaleme As someone who was raised religiously I find hook ups to be repulsive, its got nothing to do with being unsuccessful in getting a girl, it is a choice. When woman says she is single by choice then thats true, if she lowers her values she will get a desperate guy.
I have a low body count of 1. Girls didn't give me the time of day in high school or college. I wasted my 20s with one girl who turned out to be crazy and fucked me up bad. When I see women with body counts even above 10 it just sparks a deep resentment inside of me. It's weird. I know I shouldn't be upset about it, but I just can't help but feel like all women have to do is stand around and wait for a good time. I feel like guys have to get lucky and the most attractive players are just more lucky than me. So when I see a girl now trying for me I have the mindset that I'm just now getting used up leftovers and she only wants me now so that I can just give her a home, kids, or whatever and then she gets to take it all after divorce. Like girls didn't want me for me back then, why would they want me now?
I am in the same situation. I could reach a high bc but i didnt want to for moral/christian reasons. I am now 39 with a bc of 3(all relationships) and i look at promiscuous women and i am shocked they even dare to demand marriage from me
Fight on bro, we have to change this world because not only do you miss out on one of the best things on earth the whole world is ruined, the rivers of this planet and it's soil are about to completely die, meanwhile they can deludedly believe they are not so full of STD that any child they would have is mutant.
these women apparently think it is perfectly normal to lie to the person you are having a relationship with; what a great foundation for a future together.
Hmmm....I think what matters more than body count is the context behind it. Mine was high early on. Why? Because I was immature, selfish, and not always honest. I also wasn't very selective. As I got into my 30's those things have started to change. In the last 14 years, I've been with four partners. Today, I value people more. So, context is everything.
*Ladies, if you were dating a guy and he took you on a romantic trip to the Maldives, would that make you feel special? Ok, now imagine how you would feel if you discovered you were the 50th girl he took to the Maldives - how would you feel then? This is why body count matters.*
Great comment 😂
@@CourtneyRyan 😏
Agreed lol
Best comment goes to this guy!
The question to women is, can you date a guy who has slept with your sister and your bestfriend??? can you date a boy who has slept with half of the girls in your class??
Im sure they will say NO! so yea.. body count does matter
The woman that said, "Why would you want to know? It's only going to make you upset." That proves that body count matters. If it didn't, it wouldn't make you upset.
Honestly, guys and girls shouldn’t ask each other-I think we can all low key tell without asking. You see a woman and you can definitely guess nowadays. Girls won’t admit it (and I’m sure plenty don’t consciously realize it) but they only go for guys with high body counts. Which means they can tell too.
Negative feelings are innately wrong in this decade apparently 😂
Thats why we cant listen to this channel. It will hurt a lot of men out here and honestly its hurting the women too. Lies may FEEL better in the moment, but will leave you depressed for good reason later.
@@lucascoxe1481 the point of the interviewing girls part of her channel is just letting them tell on themselves.
@@altonsafe Yeah. All they say is "get over it". But when it comes to them to get over something, it's "you should accept me with my flaws".
Modern VVomen are not clowns, they are the entire circus!!!
The fact that so many people think you shouldn’t “judge someone on their past” is just ridiculous.
*Women don’t care about a man’s past much, it’s the future SHE can have, the future HE will give her. Men know a woman’s history predicts her future quite accurately. No man wants the financial risk or potential loss of his children an uncommitted woman represents. A high female sexual partner background means she does not attach deep commitment. Life is going to happen, the ups & downs. Women don’t withstand the lows of life very well.*
Agree, it's also a lie, we all judge people by their past... if you've killed someone, if you've been to jail, or whatever else i wouldn't feel comfortable in your company and so is for everyone...
You should 100% judge someone on their past. That's why anyone with an IQ over 2 isn't just turning serial killers loose from prison after a few years.
I will add that people find it ok to have a look at your CV, verify your work experience, call previous employers for references, demand clear criminal record so that you can work for them. But when you are choosing the partner for your life, someone you want to have family with and basically split your material possessions 50/50 after marriage, suddenly, that is a problem to ask about one's past.
@@Fujtajblus Also if men and women are in their 30 and women spend those 10 years doing job, getting promotions and being high earner she wont look for men who spend his 10 years working on minimal wage job with no perspective
For a hook up : No
Dating : no
Relationship : yes
Marriage : 100% yes
I co sign on that.
Yep lol
Facts!
I've had 6 gfs since I was 16, 2 relationships with sex since 27, as a male, and I have 0 regrets. I don't need to stack body counts, its demeaning, damages outlook on intimacy and relationships and life. I have omitted porn almost 90% since college, and now early 30s, single, I hope to find a good woman, not just sex. I wish to have family, kids, love. But I would NEVER do this with a woman who had 5+ guys before me at the age of sub 30. I get relationships end, and they imply, sex, but in my case, if she´d have 5+, that means she either leapt thru 20s, or had sex as a teen, which is kinda disgusting to me. She could be a great person, but body count DOES MATTER to every good man. It doesn't matter to players, guys who only want sex. I'm a regular family oriented guy.
Kid: Daddy, do you love mommy?
Me: Yes, but 20 other guys loved her before me.
Kid: O
If they have STD or HIV people have right to know even it’s just a hook up but people love to lie or don’t tell when you have right to know.
The exclusivity of a woman's intimacy is what makes a man feel loved.
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Wise beyond your years.
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Can’t agree more
not loved...respected...and not only you...the rest of your family too...if a woman wants to have a husband and kids she should respect them even before they arrive...im not marrying to a bitch and i am not allowing my children to be sons of a bitch
"Why am I fighting for something that no one else is fighting for? If everyone else has had it, I don't want it" She gets it.
Amazing point
No one wants the town bicycle.
Yet she says we shouldn't care about body count. weird
Yet for most women it's the complete opposite. Ask a reasonably attractive woman if she wants to be with a guy who's a virgin or has had 1/2 partners...or would she rather get with the guy whose slept with dozens of women? Most will pick the guy whose been with dozens of women. In her mind the guy whose been with dozens of women is the more "desirable" guy.
She perfectly described what a guy wants.. but said that body count doesn't matter at beginning makes no sense if u ask me.
*Body count is NOT the same as asking how many times you've had sex.* A high body count is a sign of commitment issues, stability issues, and possibly self-respect. You can have sex with the same guy for a decade and only him and that wouldn't be a red flag because it shows commitment and stability, but having sex with different guys over a decade and never settling down is a red flag.
A man's worst fear is his girl getting pregnant and not knowing if it's his kid or not. This is why men who are serious about you look at your body count as a sign of commitment and stability. If you're increasing your body count by 20 ever year, that's a very understandable red flag.
20 every decade would also be too many
@@jth_printed_designs So she better settle or find a simp that'll be forced to wait until marriage before having sex.
Thats unrelated to bodycount unless u get pregnant. Once again bodycount matte4s because men are terrified of being compared or that she loves D so much she might cheat on you. Data shows that men.and women care equally much about it though.
Bro if it is above 10 at 25 we gotta ask real questions.
@@animalgarden825 I'm from India and anything above 2 or 3 is immoral and untrustworthy
These questions kill me. "Should body count matter? No". Later - "How high of a body count is too high?" They all give answers.
My thought(s) exactly. Total hypocrites.
All of them are morons, it's the same reason why men should never take women's advice on how to get a date with them.
What they mean is "/my/ body count shouldn't matter", not that it doesn't matter at all.
Why do I get the idea that all these females giving out acceptable body count numbers are basically just saying what there’s is and justifying it as ok? Also they clearly don’t get it. Most guys do care about this, and a guy isn’t going to stop caring about it if the number is only 30 and not 45
Ashley: Body count doesnt matter
Also Ashley: My friends have ridiculous numbers and I think its harmful for them
🤦♂️
I know!!! The thing is, everyone is so afraid to offend nowadays! But the truth, oftentimes, is offensive…
*Female logic.*
She needs a much higher quality of candidates.
Bad company corrupts good character
Thank you!
My wife and I were both virgins. We celebrate 36 years married this year. Discovery learning was a lot of fun together.
im envious of you brother, live a good life
getting married with first love is the real winner actually. you are a winner dude.
This is the ideal. Finding a male virgin would truly be a miracle. I am very happy for you and your wife.
@@Pheonix1111 Based on all the latest videos, tons of male virgins out there...
Nice one guy. Good to hear it.
Sex is like shaking hands… really? Good lord we are doomed.
I dont know anyone getting pregnant from shaking hands
Courtney’s GOTTA get some better people to bring on camera. I don’t care whether they’re “fRiEnDs”
@@AlexanderSkinnerVids No thats the perfect kind of people to have because you see how some women think
@@innocentrage1 or getting an STD?
Never needed an abortion after shaking hands.
This generation is a hot mess. My husband and I had the "body count" convo very very early on. It absolutely matters.
2 here, 33, want a real, decent woman. But she could be a saint, if she has a high body count given moral circumstances, she's not somebody I would see as a mother of my children. Its just life facts.
did you tell him the unreducted truth?
@@pastordonkoh7692 lol 100% because it's his business.
@@ancientslav4863 Too bad its all you're gonna get.
High quality women and quality men both care and should care about it!
Don’t let these extremist feminists gaslight u into thinking differently
There are a lot of statistics showing that for women - data doesn't show the same thing so much for men - body count is correlated with health issues, commitment issues and mental issues. Sure, doesn't mean it applies for every single case, but in general it holds up
Yep, something like 80% chance of a happy marriage if the woman has one partner compared to 25% if she had five or more. When around half of marriages end in divorce men should not be shamed for having standards for who's finger to put a ring on
Ironic that only women with high body counts mind the question… lmao
It applies to men too
@@moosevision8113 The stat is that women with a body count of 5 or less have a 80% chance of maintaining a healthy and strong marriage and are more able to pair bond with there significant other. Where as women with a body count of 5 and more have a 20% chance of having a healthy marriage and are more prone to divorce and are less likely to pair bond.
@@christianp5486 Sure it does. Just not in the same way it applies to women.
Body count absolutely matters. It's a statistical fact that the higher the count, the higher the likelihood of infidelity. It also affects pair bonding. So yes, it matters.
Exactly.
Are you are religious leader of Taliban?
@@andersnielsen6044 , No it is actual studies the US government agencies have done, Roughly 86% of women who had 1-2 partners prior to marriage are happy in their current marriage, and 38% of women with 6-10 partners prior to marriage are happy in their current marriage, it also has been shown the higher a woman's body count, that it suppresses chemicals in her body that helps her bond to anyone particular partner.
Would make sense. My ex cheated on me and she was the same type of girl who claimed it didn't matter
@@EssPhour And you trust these studies with a pure agenda? Haha, are you a member of Taliban or something like that?
Courtney: *"Should men care about a woman's body count?"*
Woman: *"NO! Because they're allowed to have 100 bodies and we're NOT? Not that I do, but I'm just saying."*
This is the funniest moment that proves just how serious a woman's body count matters to both men AND women. So she defends women sleeping around frivolously, only to turn around and say that she doesn't do that same thing? You can't make this stuff up.
Some of the girls opinions shifted a bit as we discussed it more! It was neat for me to see the progression as I asked more questions.
u know that there are men with higher body counts than women right?thats bcs of the patriarchy lmao
@@CourtneyRyan opinions or excuses?
@@CourtneyRyan it's literally just them posthoc rationalizing their prejudice with their current situation. NOTHING MORE.
You've been watching "Two and Half Men" haven't you lol A fake character that also happens to be that top 1%er who is rich, young, decent looking and doesn't have to work with a nice Beach House.
My number, pre-marriage at 23, was zero. My wife's number also was zero. I get that not everyone is going to have that experience in life, but I am so thankful that I did, and it makes everything that I experience with her that much more special. I cannot fathom racking up a count in the 20's. It's basic econ, all other things being equal, the greater a quantity of a thing, the less it is worth. A person's count in some way has to be reflective of the value they place on intimacy.
Exactly! Women with high body counts or even dudes won't ever experience something new and unique with their significant other. They've already done that with other partners. Sex in a car, on the beach, in a stairwell, on an airplane, done this position and that position and put in that hole and that one and all the other sexual things you could have explored with the love of your life, but you or her have already done that with all your other partners and now sex is just a chore instead of a form of intimacy.
love reading this
You are one of likely very few and good for you, honestly. My friends brother married his one and only girlfriend and they were together for 5 years (they got together in high school) before they married.
How do you meet woman like that 😢, second year of college I need an advice here
So good to hear. How did you meet?
My sister has been with so many guys now that she is unable to truly love a guy. Guy she is with now does everything for her, cooks her food, doesn’t care she has a kid, takes her to his beach house on weekends… and she still leaves her options open (even though she is 32). Emotionally damaged and she can’t properly bond with a guy anymore. So yes, body count matters, and it affects women far more than men.
And that’s what really grinds my gears with these women today. They’re two faced af with no accountability and the studies prove it. Studies correlated the higher the body count the more likely divorce, infidelity, and unhappiness.
Instead of just owning up to it so men can avoid them they shame and degrade them so they grow guilty minds where they feel bad for not liking them.
Pretty much the same for one of my sisters, who knows what man she with right now and honestly neither me nor the rest of the family gives a shit anymore about her stupidities.
Women with a high body counter = High risk of being unable to pair bound which makes them something sane men should stay away from.
@@1856outlander Ma'am, calm down 😅😅😅
It's just flat out DISGUSTING. From a deep primal level, the thought of dozens of dix going balls deep in a chick absolutely repulses men with self respect. It's so gross.
Tell him to find the red pill
Just remember ladies, you’re the gatekeeper of sexual opportunity….but men are the gatekeeper of marriage opportunity. As long as men set the standard for who they want to marry, your opinion on your body count doesn’t matter. Either be the woman your dream-guy wants you to be, or do whatever you want and live with what’s left.
Amen to that
Truth
Beautifully summarised.
Preach!!!! And let's be real if a woman wants to sleep around that's her choice but she needs to understand that if she does she's no longer in a position to be demanding of men cause she's already set the bar so low for herself countless times.
@@7brutusbuckeye nah, its Reality but whatever...
Caring about a women’s bodycount is not insecurity, that’s called having self respect
Facts
No. It is a pure misogyne and patriarchal look on women and a desperate gasp after control and power. Perhaps the Talibans are the ones for you?
#facts
Spot on.
It's not just self-respect, it's also healthcare. I require a full medical workup including blood testing if I'm going to date you. And frankly, I'd still be hesitant about it due to the fact that some STDs can remain in a state of dormancy for decades before signs of infection are exhibited. Notice how not a single one of these women (including Courtney) mentioned the very real health-related dangers of being wanton.
Just that fact that they felt an urgent need to say something like "Oh no, not like I slept with so many people" after telling about their friends with high BC, speaks for itself.
At gut-level they perfectly know how it matters.
As a guy who was invisible to women in his 20s, the very idea of even being ABLE to rack up a huge body count by the time you’re 25 or so is just… foreign to me.
It all depends on your situation and your desire to go out and date. I don't want a relationship so no stress there, I've lived around a big downtown area for many years on and off, and have been living alone for 3+ years now.
To age 25 was fairly modest, ~20 at that point. Age 25-28(now).....🤣🤭
Safe sex is the best sex 👍
Wow, 20 is modest. I would have thought 2 or 3 was modest.
@@bman6198 20 is modest? Jesus christ.
Same here. But for women that's the norm for them. Men become much more attractive to women when they're like 25-30.
@@bman6198 My god.. what does that say about me at the age of 27 and still a virgin?
It 100% matters to men with options, as they view women with high BC as useful for sex only and not long-term relationships. High BC for men is viewed positively for women, regardless of what they say, because they view that man as capable of achieving sexual success...usually due to him achieving other areas of success (money, status...). Any woman giving away her most prized possession early in life is delusional if she thinks it doesn't matter to men.
Women don't want a cheater either. Purity doesn't matter as much to them but if they're a whore they're more likely to want a fuckboy and they would probably end up cheating on each other and eventually have an open relationship.
When men get over a count of 50, or 100, their pair bonding abilities drop linearly, yet not even close to a 45° angle, yet when women get over a count of 2, their pair bonding abilities exponentially decline. This is why it matters to men. Women will compare&judge 24/7 and it gets worse with each lay. Men can separate that. Some can pass 100 bodies and have no issues dedicating&bonding. Men&women are different folks
But if women accept that a high body count for them is bad, why would they view a high body count for men as good seeing that this creates an externality producing high body count women which is bad for them? Why would they want to be with a man who destroys women's dating prospects?
@@Moshm4n I think most people, both men and women, view people of both genders with high bodycounts as somewhat "damaged".
@@Moshm4n *Hypergamy* *_is why._*
At the end of the day - no matter how painful - transparency and communication is the best way to go about it. If the man isn't comfortable with your body count then it's best for both parties to just be honest and move forward from there. If it doesn't work out then it doesn't work out.
As a man, I can say it would hurt a lot more to fall in love with someone only to found out 6+ months down the road that she lied about their body count. Bottom line is it's deceitful and it makes us feel like we got fooled which is a problem. Add to that the potential of body count mattering to that person, it's just a recipe for disaster. Why risk letting resentment fester in your partner in the long run? Just be honest from the jump
Agreed!
But no men will though?
@@cool28990 Transparency applies equally both ways. Takes two communicate
True! Just be honest from the get go. Know what you want and your expectations and requirements for your desired partner.
A women can have a high body count but she has to accept the idea of putting aside any thoughts of being seen as wife material because unfortunately she will always be comparing the poor bastard she hooks up with to the 50 other Chad's that she let run a train on her.
I'm 50, and to hear young girls now saying 30 partners (!!!) might be too high suggests we've been on a downward slide. In my day, having as many as 20 partners (by your mid-20s, say) meant you were queen of the hos. It was and is an outcome far more attainable by women than men, but few people respected guys for having that many. It was "guys will be guys if you let them," yeah, but not respect-worthy.
Also something to note, when they say 30 their realistic number is closer between 60-120
Right? I'm sitting here in my early 40s watching this with an expression of a deer in the headlights. Dunno if I'm supposed to feel underserved or lucky. Geez!
but you are low quality guys so you shouldn't comment
Dude... no kidding. Maybe I'm weird but if a girl told me "10" I'd be grossed out. These videos are fascinating but mostly make me really happy I'm married.
There are more and more adult men without any partners and girls with triple digits in very early 20s.. some 1% guys are having a buffet lol😂
The idea of whether a man “should” care is irrelevant, the simple fact is that the overwhelming majority of men DO care. Can’t get mad when a man rejects you for not meeting his standards, while you reject men for not meeting yours. Normal, healthy, consenting adults want what they want, we “shouldn’t” be shamed for it, but that’s rarely the case. Oftentimes reality doesn’t conform to our expectations, better to learn to accept these things.
Men determine marriage opportunity. They set the standard. It is what it is.
@@no_regerts5176 If a woman wants to get married, she needs to be marriageable, that standard is determined by what the prospective husband wants, not what the woman thinks he should want, just like it’s a woman’s right to determine who she’ll sleep with and whose proposal she’ll accept.
@@danielrobinson7824 true that man. The thing is, women ignore this type of stuff for the sake of being sanctimonious, but the thing is you got to have respect for yourself when it comes to these sorts of things. You got to have values in certain things to align with the man you want, you attract what you ARE. If you’re being irresponsible and “free” doing whatever with hopes of no consequences then clearly that’s gonna hit u in the face. We got to have a moral ground.
Indeed! This new trend of females attempting to dictate what men are allowed to want or to not want is ludicrous.
Well that should go both ways. Non virgin men have no business wanting virgins.
Had a coworker approach me, we started talking and this came up. I knew she had a colorful past. She said, "well what does the past have to do with the present? I like to leave the past in the past." I responded, "it depends. How much of that past could potentially wreck our future?" She said, "that's perceptive. I've never had anyone phrase it to me like that!" Nothing wrong with a past but she just had a ton of baggage stemming from a high count so that was scary for me. I liked her but I had to back out!
Woman care about a mans future, a man cares about a womans past
@@ryanshaw7113 Well we care about a past because we feel that it indicates a potential pattern of destructive tendencies that could as Torrence L. put it wreck a future. But people can change and get better. Guess it depends on who you are willing to gamble on, whether you are optimistic about some people.
Never in a million years would I engage in this topic at work especially a female. You’re asking for a sexual harassment claim to hr. If you say you don’t respect women with high body counts and she don’t like it, you’re toast might as well start looking for another job
@@brianwaller7383 "don't shit where you eat unless you're a pig"
@@brianwaller7383 Everythings good, no one lost their job! Nothing you mentioned even came close to happening! Even if she was that type, everyone knew that she had a crush on me and approached me. It wasn't a secret! Several couples who met there ended up getting married. Most are still married! My boss and his wife met there & is still together. This goes all the way up to Corporate as well. It was encouraged, celebrated & not frowned upon. We just needed to not let it get in the way of work. As 1 of 8 Sr. Directors part of my responsibilities is HR!
Body count as simple as a handshake is CRAZY 😭😭😂
As a man, everyone you meet you shake their hands and say hello. Don't think you can jump into bed with someone as quick, easily and casually 🤣🤣🤣
Handshakes don't give you herpes or genital warts.
Yeah after listening her in the other videos, that Monique woman has issues.
@@homerj806 I didn’t want to be mean but holy shit. She really is unlikable and delusional based on the income video as well.
@@The_BlackTemplar Actually, you would be surprised; it seems that Natasha Nice has no more delay or a problem with sex than a handshake. 😁
I used to think that body count didn't matter. But now, in a long term happy marriage (8 years) and with three kids, I start questioning what kind of values am I trying to teach my kids. Because I hope that I can guide my kids to be better people than I and my wife are. Body count for man and woman is extremally important.
What people today don't like to admit is that your body count will come out at some time. I have heard 2 stories of a woman saying she had a very low body count and then 10-15 years later at a party, old friends accidently talk about her past. Now she is a liar, and she can not be trusted. In both stories they got a divorce, and when though a lot of pain.
The truth is that men want women with very low body counts.
Exactly women are gate keepers to sex and men are for relationships.. its like saying yeah i been broken up 25 times equivalent to a womans body count of 25 men..
Jesus, some dude out there decided to divorce their wife because, in her past, she fucked some more dudes than he has expected?
Of course there is a quality to a women's sex act after not having any chastity. It is not better and very likely diseased.
I is a statistical fact that men trying to have sex with prostitutes usually cannot achieve an erection, it is not a pleasant experience.
Higher BC also means higher risk of STD's, unwanted pregnancies & other problems. Even when practicing safe sex because accidents happen......It's just common sense, there's a good reason why for hundreds/thousands of years. People taught the idea of waiting until you find the right person/marriage, before sex. In the 20th century that idea started to get tossed out the window. Now sometime in the 21st century, people will realize why it wasn't a good idea to sleep with everyone & why it was best to wait until marriage.
@@michaelbrinks8089 Exactly !!!! I had often said this to myself when going though some heartbreak that involved a girl "This is probably why Traditionally you weren't supposed to do it like this." Old school was not to rush it. For example, my father had to make the journey back to Mexico (1950's), talk to his father and grandfather, then all three of them would go talk to my mom's grandfather and her father to ask for her hand in marriage. This took a lot of planning and time. My mom's family then had to vet my father and his family. After all that he could then officially talk to her, and that consisted of him being able to go to her window, that was barred, and her mom and dad, and the rest of the family outside watching. They've been married for about 65 years now. Crazy when I actually write it down like this. The answers are so clear and simple. I will raise my kids to be traditional.
Don’t ask women “if men should care about womens body count”
Ask the women if they care about the girlfriend’s body count of their future son!
I know you can tell I’m mentally ducked up just from my comment😂, who say this about them right, it’s good thou, that I’m self aware.
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Very interesting approach, I’ll keep this in mind if i get into a debate with my frmale friends
What does one's "body count" specifically mean?
The way I see it you cant have a high body count and high standards at the same time. Imagine, having a woman demand that you make a $100K to be in a relationship with her, only to find out the last 50 dudes she slept with were broke or made substantially less.
@@tdscoop You can actually do that if you put a new engine in it first. Likewise, a person with a high body count is capable of learning and changing the tendencies that lead them to that point.
oh hell nah gross no cap
a woman saying "body count does not matter" means "I want non responsibility for my actions, no accountability for me projecting all my past trauma onto my future partners, and me not being able to pair bond with my male counterpart, because I'm already thinking about the next guy."
Pay attention... body count affects mostly your mind, not your body.
The girls saying “guys shouldn’t even ask” are clearly ashamed of what it is, if you’re not you’d have no problem answering that question
Yeah 😂
I personally think that the higher the body count, the more difficult it’ll be to connect with the person long term. Cause that said person with a high body count knows they got options and that little thing will always be in the back of their head. We have a number of statistics showing that people with higher body counts are more likely to get a divorce.
That's so true buddy☝️
It’s factually true you lose the ability to pair bond as strongly
Does the statistics apply to women only or both men and women?
@@avapilsen I would say it's obvious it's both.
@@avapilsen I purposely used gender neutral words so anyone wouldn’t ask that question
Having a ton of sex with a ton of people is an important trait to who you are as a person. It's also a huge tell tale sign if a woman is capable of being monogmous and honest. And if you're trying to get sex out of her on the first couple dates and she's so easy with everyone else but not on you then you know that they're more after your wallet and wants your stability. Which means you'll just be a tool to them.
Exactly. It exposes people !
"There's nothing wrong with women that have a lot of bodies. I salute you queen"
"NOT THAT I WOULD EVER DO THAT IM NOT THAT TYPE OF GIRL"
Uh huh:.. haha
A queen doesn't have a high body count.
Body count should matter for both genders. I don't understand how it should not matter since if someone has been over 50 relationships than you need to consider why these relationship's didn't work out.
🤣 😂 🤣
She said, with her breasts out on the internet.
I have no intention of asking "What is your body count?" to a potential partner. I will ABSOLUTELY ask "Do you think body count matters?" however, because her answer to that contains all the information I need to know about her. If she says it doesn't matter she doesn't value sexual intimacy highly enough (for my taste) and is probably not the girl for me.
Lol smart. Great idea. If they say yes, then you can follow up with the first question.
great comment underratted
This is freakin GENIUS!!!, i’m doing this from now on!
Cool.. if she says that, she means the higher, the better!!
Now that's clever.
Gotta love how these girls’ brains work. So they’re all pretty much on the same boat of “not judging someone based on their past” but if you think about that for literally 3 seconds, you immediately see all the issues with that. If you knew that a guy beat up all the women he was with, would you look the other way and still go out with him? What if this guy cheated on every one of his 25 girlfriends?? You’re gonna sit there and tell me you’re going to “keep an open mind” and look past that?? What information about a man are you using to determine someone’s value?? Their potential?? Even that is based on actions taken IN THE PAST. They’re just a bucket of meaningless words these girls. Not trying to be mean here, but I can’t stand the BS
My thoughts EXACTLY!!
Just got cheated on
Women are just spoiled brats. They have no clue about real life because we coddle them and it’ll always be this way
I'm not supporting promiscous lifestyle and i believe it impacts the person which is living it, but how is sex comparable to things like beating or cheating?
@@c.c6909 well I’m not making a direct comparison between those things, but my point is that almost of all them said that “their past doesn’t matter”. That’s absurd. Most of them aren’t even 25 yet right? You think a normal 25 year old has 20 heartbreaks? Assuming your body count is 20? You really think those are all meaningful relationships that just ended? If I hear of someone that is 25 and has that many bodies down, you can at least assume that there’s a high likelihood that you might get used for sex and not have anything meaningful in the end.
This is easy. YES. It does matter. Sad that this is even a question.
It absolutely matters! It shows how they value their body and how easily they give it up. It’s a good indication of character.
no, it doesnt
@@iulianmititel3552 lol keep telling yourself that
@@iulianmititel3552 L
I don't know about character. It does give you some insight into a woman's level of self-esteem, however. Low self-esteem women are great for short-term relationships and quick sex, but a disaster for long-term relationships or marriage (for those who still want to participate). So it depends on what you are looking for.
@@iulianmititel3552 Simp
Let's be honest. If the guy is a 10, they won't give a shit about his body count.
Body count matters because it correlates with a few things:
1) being bad at picking long term partners.
2) disease risk
3) cheating (they know they can get someone better in at least one way... And when bored, one better thing is enough to ignore everything else) risk.
Not necessarily. If you're going for a long term partner, sexual compatibility matters. How are you going to find out if you're compatible or not? Fill out a survey?
@@nimz8521 If you need 100 partners to find one you're sexually compatible with for a long-term relationship... you are HORRIBLE at communicating expectations beforehand, or at choosing folks you think can meet your expectations.
Communications skills are crucial to long term relationships.
@@nimz8521 I have been around the block a few times. For me, the number one way to discover if you are sexually compatible without having sex is french kissing. A girl who does not want to means absolutely she is not attracted physically to me. A girl who is willing but there is no chemistry in the dancing of the tongues means there won't be in bed. But, If she is willing and there is that chemistry it absolutely correlates to sexual compatibility. So far, it has been foolproof and unfortunately I married a girl who said she can't french kiss till marriage as a christian. Boy was I stupid. She didn't french kiss afterwards and there was no sexual desire by her at all, even though I gave her orgasms each time.
Thats clearly 3 things
@@Dudelee1 they are quite associated because "accuse others of that which you are guilty" is nothing new. A cheater can infect their partner and then go "hey you must have given me that disease! You must have cheated! " quite easily to cover up their own infidelity .
But you are right, split into 3 items.
It absolutely matters, someone's past is a great indicator of their current character. I've never met a man that didn't care about their long term partners body count.
Well, I'm a man and I don't care. So, congratz, met your first one today.
@@Nr4747 You're not a man.
@@oemj7147 I guess not parroting the majority opinion in an echo chamber isn't "manly" enough for you ?
@@Nr4747 It's not an opinion. It's a fact that men are wired to reject promiscuity in the opposite secs.
@@oemj7147 Never heard of such a fact, either in biology class nor later. It's fine that you're a virgin that is exclusively dating virgins, but that is still only your opinion/dating preference.
The double standard on this issue exists solely because men care about body count and women don't.
Saying that men should not care about body count is to assume that men and women should be the same, which is a biological impossibility.
Virgin women aren't gonna want a guy who's been with 50 girls. I'm waiting for marriage and will only accept a virgin. If I'm saving myself and have control, then he should too.
@@daniellehotsky1776 It depends what stage you are in life. It has less todo with maturity. If you are looking for something real and you are still in your early twenties it matters but if you are a jaded 30 yearold who has already been through lots of life it doesn't.
@@daniellehotsky1776 It depends what relationship you're looking for. If you're into polyamory or serial monogamy, it doesn't matter much. However, if you're looking for lifelong monogamy, then body count is absolutely an important indicator.
I get the biological preference than men have towards low body count. When I was younger it mattered to me, but now that I'm older and experienced its not really a factor. A low body count isn't a direct indicator if she's a decent human being. It has more to do with a biological insecurity.
Also, few people that about why women would prefer a "lower" body count. No its not nearly as important to her, but she doesn't want to share her resources with other women. I assure you. Women want a guy who's desirable and experienced enough to please her, but not a guy who's either not good enough to lock down, poses an STD risk, and/or unable to commit to her to provide his resources.
So yes, women care about body count. They just don't desire total virgins and basically don't want a body count that is as high as your age.
A woman should worry about a man's body count on the basis of whether he got any previous partners pregnant. Say a man named Louis meets a woman named Tamiko, and both of them are around 30 years of age. After about 5 dates, Tamiko asks Louis if he has slept with women before, and his answer is "at least 10". Her main concern should then be how many of those 10+ women became pregnant after they slept with him, because this would translate to him having issues with being a parent if any of those women did give birth to a child.
I love how they say body count doesn't matter but quickly follow up with, "But I don't have a high number..." Says everything.
It's only because of sexist, judgemental, insecure assholes who would have a fit over any number higher than 0.
304s no cap
Your past is the blueprint for your future, so your past matters a lot, same thing applies to body count, if it's ridiculously high it's a major prediction you'd be unsatisfied in future relationships
Edit: don't listen to women who says you shouldn't care about their body count, it's a recipe for disaster
@lati long We are not saying that it doesn't.
Not a single one of these girls wants you to ask them about their body count which is pretty damn indicative of Chad getting the no strings attached plow nights and you have to pick up the scraps once these mid 20s women start hitting the end of their primes. Lord...
One of the best comments on the matter, so true
It 110% matters, having a high body count shows commitment issues and a number of other issues. This goes for BOTH men and women! If somebody downplays the loving act of sex for what it really is and simplifies it down to being like a handshake, then they've got some serious issues to sort out and I wouldn't want to date anybody who thinks of sex in that way. Where is the simple love anymore?
With maturity we should learn that life is not a porno, and that there are consequences for actions, too high a body count indicates a lack of principles, or concern for personal safety. It is not someone who holds relationships sacred, with whom one should start a family with.
Yeah… no. Men’s satisfaction goes up after 9 bodies- literally the exact opposite of a woman, who becomes statistically undateable and loses her pair bonding mechanism after that many
@@nickharris9218 men who sleep around are only seen as desirable by women who sleep around. No woman who saved herself would look at a man with a high body count and think “he’s a catch!”
@@nickharris9218 And what makes u thinks that a woman with no/low body count would want to marry a man like that? You have no business demanding something that u yourself are not.
The difference is, a woman with a high body count chooses to, because it's 80-90% women who end relationships.
The girl that says sex is just a handshake... yeah, no signs of intimacy issues there.
This is really simple.
A woman with a high body count is for entertainment only but not for taking seriously as a long-term relationship partner.
Party with the party girls, but traditional women with traditional values are wife material.
Its only the party girls with a high body count that are upset that they have to pay consequences for their own decisions.
Why would a traditional wife want a party boy like you? If you don't like party girls why are you having sex with them? I would be concerned if I was dating you, clearly you feel contempt for women who sleep with you...
A high female body count positively correlates to divorce. Past behavior is a predictor of future outcomes, more so for women in this metric.
You don’t think men having hundreds of women is an issue?
@@DarkerPhoenix1 a high body count is bad period. But it's worse for women that it is men when correlated with relationship outcomes.
@@dukeonwheels Based on what study?
@@dukeonwheels What do you think is more damaging? A guy having unprotected sex with 100 women in a year or a woman having unprotected sex with 100 men in a year?
@@DarkerPhoenix1 woman cause she can get pregnant, catch an std herself, also potentially pass an std to the baby. Versus a man can just catch an std.
Here I am thinking a high body is like 5-7 people and after watching this video and hearing 25-50 plus is a high body count. Holy cow!! Body count matters for both sides because it tells me how much self control you have and how much you respect the other sex. It really baffles me how both sides can't control keeping their pants on in any sort of dating scene. Here I am looking for someone who wants to go apple picking or the local christmas parade and most of the world is out there just trying to screw each other.
let me put it that way: You should never buy a rental car after it is phased out by the rental company. Blown out gasket might be the least of your issues.
“Does body count matter?”
First girl: “UMmm I think it matters to some people, and if it matters to you then that’s fine…”
Ma’am she’s directly asking YOU the question. Crazy how some people will talk in circles.
And I have to laugh at their attempts at psychological analysis.
Yes&no questions are hard for women, because they are emotional creatures, while we are rational beings. They express Thoughts with "I feel" where men say I think, in my experience, or what I've learned. Big difference.
Notice Courtney asks a do you think question, and the one girl replies ummmmm I feel.... Can't blame them. They're wired different. Many women can think critically and express candidly yet many protect themselves by appealing to what makes them come off as a good girl, even if they don't believe in what they say
Straw man fallacy.
For me, body count is less about sexual experience and much more about capacity/desire to engage in relationships. Let's face it, once body count rises past zero, there's almost no correlation between body count and sexual experience. What a "high" body count does represent is either the person is never in a committed long-term relationship or is cheating while in such relationships. The latter is a deal-breaker for me and the former is a major red flag: at a minimum, the person has not developed the skills necessary to maintain a relationship.
Well said 🎯
Or, you know, they might just enjoy/have enjoyed to be single and mingle, at least for a while ? Not everyone who does/did that automatically is or was unable to form meaningful relationships.
@@Nr4747 Where did I write unable? We generally don't teach people the skills and attitudes necessary to sustain long term relationships, so they need to be learned through practice -- and such skills are pretty much necessary to have a chance at success. A history of limited long-term relationships is a red flag if that is important to me. Past performance cannot guarantee future performance, but it is typically the only signal available to one.
Monique is a true 304 through and through, comparing sex to a handshake like it's "just an activity". What a scalawag 🙅🏽♂️
You can tell her I said that. Quote me
Here's your upvote for using "scalawag".
I don't know you, but I like the cut of your jib.
@@bros4654 upvote for “cut of your jib”
I suspect most of these girls have shivered a few timbers. I was expecting that in their twenties they might be talking about a body count between 2-5, not every guy at Kent State.
Ask the same question to women if judging a man by his income is morally ok or not, and they will say it's ok
Great point.
They will flat out lie and say "if he isn't unemployed it doesn't matter".
random guy on the internet speaking for all women
@@debaronAZK There is a video about this from this creator and all the women except for one was fine with it. That one woman was just paying lip service for the first minute or so and then went along with it.
So what other BS excuses are you going to come up with? That you are different and the exception? The exception to the rule doesn't matter the rule does.
Damn right
For anyone planning on being in a relationship at some point, body count has to matter regardless of whether you're a man or woman. For the people who aren't bothered they should do as they please. And yes asking someone their number isn't great but once in a relationship you shouldn't have to lie because the best relationships are all about honesty and trust. Also without doubt the best sex is with 1 person over time based on discovery not 1 night stands with lots of people.
Relationship sex is often better than one night stands. However, relationship sex gets dull for both parties after a few years - even with experimenting. Women actually get bored far quicker than men do. It's just biology.
Unfortunately not a lot of people are ever going to get this for life. Our society is just a bunch of sex in the city, kids out of wedlock, and depression.
Yes it does matter to us men....a lot. A woman with "too much" experience on this field is not desirable (at least for high value men with options), cause her past indicates that either her choices were poor (falling for chads and players who seek for casual sex) or that she failed to properly commit to a long term relationship with a good man.
This shows how women think with their feelings rather than with logic and unconsciously contradict themselves within a relatively short conversation.
cognitive dissonance
Men are idealists and women are rational praglatists and it drives men fucking crazy. Sorry but it's often true. My experience has been seeing men think incredibly irrationally and emotionally with women. "I need him to have money" for example is a cold bloodedly rationalist and logical view. What makes you guys so butthurt is you adhere to an irrational code of honour.
Uuuu a hot and spicy sexist take
What is logical about caring about someones past when we are in the present? What is logical about using someones past to define them and judge them when it is a known fact that people change, beliefs change, and opinions change?
@@Blub2cool
What's the simple reality is that people don't change. Especially from stuffs that gives u heavy doses of dopamine, like hook-up culture. There's a reason why there are far more addi-cts to everything, than the number of rec0vered people.
Moreover, Men Care about the sta-tus of their partner. Their partner's stat-us would affect their sta-tus. And Men are competitive, and territorial. When 50 dudes h-ad h-er, she won't feel spe-cial to a m-an.
When women's standards increase, the more of a c0nquest they become.
And When she has lesser part-ner c0unt, it shows that she is a discipl-ined w0man, who val-ues her b0dy. Sh-e is a much safer inve-stment of time.
I’m happy this conversation is held by women. I cared about bodycount for a long time. And honestly I’ve been shamed for it. Aspecially being called insecure. But when I hear a bodycount of a girl I’m dating, I never think about “damn, I have to step up my game to compete with all these guys” but I think “ this is not attractive”. But a lot of people sleep around to get validation. That’s insecurity
As a guy with a highish body count (15-20) I can tell you that for me it was 100% for validation. I felt alone and depressed in college and spent a ton of time on dating apps and would sleep with anyone who said yes. No standards, just cause it would make me feel better the next day. Stems completely from a need for validation
@@awsambdaman At least you have enough self reflection to realize why you acted the way you did, you're not trying to downplay your past as if it never happened.
"If men can do it, so can I." Just be the bigger person.
But is she a man though?
They don’t realize how easy it is for women. I can’t just get 10 women to sleep with me just for existing
@@wesleygriffin7857 yup they are too used to having 100s DMs in their inbox from thirsty dudes on instagram.
@@wesleygriffin7857 I agree totally. I've commented that a man with high body count really has to work at it as well as has to be pretty good looking I'm guessing. And I'm not saying that's great either but compared to an average woman that could easily rack up a large body count if she has a similar sexual drive to most average men. So in my assumption an average women out there has a higher body count then the average man imo. And that leads to if your talking about a woman with a really high body count or presumption of one, since they lie just like men do, your best bet is to say have a nice day.
@@wesleygriffin7857 I would have loved for Courtney to ask their thoughts on the statement "Men sleep with who they can. Women sleep with who they want"
You should ask Stella if my past as an amphetamine addict shouldn't matter to her.
Best prediction of future behavior is past behavior. And the Maldives comment was also spot on. As well as the master key saying.
Exactly
You still using?
@@renardbennett75 4 years clean
@@angmori172 Well, for starters, congratulations! Getting and staying clean is not easy at all… That aside you yourself are a prime example of why the past shouldn’t be the most important metric by which you judge someone. You’re ability to get clean is an example of how, despite past failures, people can change and evolve. I would be less concerned with the particulars of what occurred in a woman’s past, and more concerned about what she learned from it, and what her present mindset is as a result.
@@renardbennett75 I made that point elsewhere on not judging someone by their past. It's circumstantial and look at actions, not words. I'm an alcoholic and have been sober for a while and have faced my demons and learned proper coping mechanisms. I've been tried and tested in sobriety and I prevailed; I won't go back. And yet I still have that held against me about 50% of the time. However I'll add the caveat that in many cases, when it comes to any form of addiction, women hold it against men not because of them specifically, but because they've already had bad experiences with it in the past and it's not a risk they want to take again. I understand that and don't blame them one bit. I've told women I really click with who said they were unsure or hesitant, "If you're questioning it because you're worried I'll relapse one day, move on. Because constantly questioning or being worried all the time will cause an issue and undue stress eventually. So just avoid people like us altogether". So really there's no one right answer to whether or not to hold someone's past against them; there are too may factors.
“Men who care about body count are immature and insecure”
- Insecure and immature women
*women who have a high body count
@@jayrod1980 I’m a virgin and I say that. But also. Don’t f complain when your virgin wife kill you or cheat on your ass.
😂
This video just shows how a healthy psycho-spiritual perspective of sex has been deteriorated even in the minds of supposed decent girls in today's society. Body count definitely matters. Sex is sacred.
Body count matters to me because it makes me doubt whether or not the woman genuinely loves and is attracted to her husband, not just settling for him.
Because the guys she really wants don’t want her 💯
*Most women are “settling” when getting married, 99% of them will NEVER EVER admit that. A small minority of women getting engaged accept marriage proposals from men who are not from among their ideal preferences. Women LOVE to shop, and LOVE to get things important to them which tick off as many checklist desires as possible. This fundamental female trait has been eroded by the recent barrage of imagery and associated emotion which have lengthened the “must have” list to nearly impossible. Big earners who are handsome, well endowed, loyal, faithful, understanding, willing to meet nearly every wife request, desire & preference are extremely rare, because of female subjectivity for each requirement.*
@@michaelwielingen7696 Or their just not the right person you bring home to your parents.
"don't want to know, its just going to make you upset..." says it all, i.e., IT'S IMPORTANT! Most people don't ask because its so important they fear the answer! Women have been encouraged to be promiscuous "just like the guys" and also encouraged to believe it doesn't matter (but it does to most of us)!
I remember being asked what my body count was. My response was the least expected kind of answer:
"I have never killed anyone."
😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Douché
Then just before she responds, interject: "...but I've got time". Then go grab a snack for a couple minutes.
@@Christinascupcakes I hope you realize that "body count" can also mean how many people someone had killed.
Women don't get to decide what matters to men.
Yup, they don't get to control us. We men are the dominant ones so they should shut their mouth.
Yooo yakub
Well body count matters a lot more to men than it does to women since we are different psychologically and emotionally
Stella is torn because she's getting old and her count is likely so high that no one sees her as wife stock. Women get past 2, their bonding abilities drop exponentially, men get past 50, and they're excitement ability drops linearly
@@LatimusChadimus she’s not old.Stop
@@nevsantos6986 woah Mr White Knight slow your roll. Be safe changing lanes when your pace is slower
Okay, troll.
@@LatimusChadimus She's not old, but I can see an argument for people thinking that at least half of her prime is behind her, so if she waits around another 2 years, it's going to be a bad deal.
almost 30 and still a virgin. The number of times I've been rejected for what seems like that being the main reason is staggering.
Women don't seem to trust a man that hasn't been with other women. It's like they need the social proof otherwise they think your a loser.
It's not like I'd outright refuse if the opportunity presented itself, but I don't want to just sleep with anybody that isn't committed long term.
It's a real struggle to reign in my urges and keep a level head. Maybe that's why they think I'm not interested or unattracted to them.
Honestly it seems like all the money and effort I've put into finding a partner has been worthless. That or maybe I am actually a loser.
Could just lie about it. Fake it till you make it right?
Who cares about their shitty opinion anyways.
If a woman cares about that sort of thing, she's just looking to use you anyways. So just use her back.
First girl I ever had sex with, she had no idea I was a virgin at the time.
It didn't even matter anyways, cause after a couple months I stopped seeing her and was onto the next.
It doesn't matter what they think, it matters how they perceive you.
Why are you telling them you're a virgin?
Why do you tell them ? The only person who knew I was a virgin was my roommate and he was leaving in a month and I never saw him again.
I think what harmed me the most is that I was always afraid to lose any girl that I had a connection with by prematuring going for it.
Mate. Girls want to smash also, most are taking what is coming to them and if you wait to long, they'll ditch you.
What was helpful for me is that to start I had to lie to get it and once I was experienced enough, I was humble and secure in myself.
To learn how to lie, is one of the most important aspect in dating, otherwise most dudes wouldn't even have a chance with girls.
Do you. First you do you. Do some crash tests. Take a girl, sell her a beautiful lie, get some experience, ditch her and if she stays, you win. If she leaves, you win !
Go for it !
Dude stop telling them wyd
If my mom would've been sleeping around in her youth my dad would've never chosen her. My mom respects herself, and know that a high quality woman wouldn't participate in such. I'm really greatful my mom instilled this standard of women in me
Those were different times and women didn’t have as much options. I sometimes think about that. My mom wouldn’t of dated my dad because he was poor and short. lol
@@anjr6282 it's not "different times". My mom and dad married in 2000. And still alot of men look for these values in girls.
@@antebellumstage but its perfectly fine with a man being a ho
True and you are better for it, the sons of those bimbos have no chance of success and will probably never be born.
Same.
You don't need 30 minutes to be told yes. If in dating, men and obtaining committed relationships from them is what you want, yes. It matters.
Completely understand that this channel is mainly for men, but I think it may be beneficial to conduct a similar interview with only men as the guests. Get men from different salary levels (blue collar, white collar, no collar) Ask them the same questions, and let women see EXACTLY what men are looking for in a potential life partner.
The more I see the answers that women give to these types of questions, the more I understand that men know EXACTLY what women want, and women, generally, have no clue as to what men want. Maybe by hearing from men, women can maybe begin to understand.
Great video, keep up the great work.
I agree. I would love to see this type of video
get a line up of studs and motley sub 5s
Women really don't care what us men want
22:44
“But then you could say zero and a guy would be like, why didn’t anyone want to be with you?”
No man has ever made this statement.
The only time I’ve ever seen a man be apprehensive about taking a woman’s virginity is because he didn’t want to “sullly” her, if he was unsure about her for a long term relationship.
I literally broke up with a Virgin girl because I knew that I didn't feel strongly for her and I wanted her first time to be with someone who would really care for her.
@@caveman1026 thats noble. Not everyone has your self control
Exactly, good men don't want to sully a girl's virginity, because they know it's important.
If a good looking girl hasn't had sex, men automatically know it's because of her morals/standards.
@@williamwallace410 should tell that to mg tows
I think body count does matter to most people, it’s just that a lot of them are afraid to voice their opinion because it may not sound as “politically correct” to say that body count matters to them.
I believe it does matter. As a man who has a low count due to only pursuing relationships, I'd be wary of a potential partner whose number is significantly high. To me, that might be a sign of incompatibility in how we view sex and relationships in general. Obviously people could change and there could be a variety of factors at play, but that's just as a rule of thumb for me. I've always been relationship-minded and want a woman who shares those values.
you're on the same boat tbh.
I feel the same and since I'm still young (20), there really isn't a possibility of calling their sexual past a past since it would be like a year or two ago..
Body count basically determines a person's standards and their ability to pair-bond.
A person with a body count of 3 is much more likely to pick out their partner more carefully.
A person with a body count of 100 probably has a record of trading sex for hamburgers, and is so psychologically broken that they lack the ability to love someone or pair-bond.
People say it’s a preference but for me it’s more of a standard. I hold myself to a certain standard so I hold my partner to the same standard. Just like I am a honest and loyal person so of course I want my partner to be that as well.
I think part of the issue about modern dating that is not being answered is: What is the goal of dating?
In the past was to find a lifelong partner. What is the goal today? Seems like a lot of people are not looking to settle down until 30. Hear woman call the first marriage is for practice or starter. How many women/men hold what view?
High body count is like a high milleage car 😂😂
You can see it, hear it, and feel it in every one of these girls answers with their tone and body language that body count obviously matters to both sides.
These videos are great for allowing modern women to confirm what most men know already. It's good to be informed but at the same time it's sad because it really makes it difficult to find even a halfway decent woman if this is the majority. These types are to be avoided at all costs.
*Except for pump & jump. They’re good for that.*
Very well said !
@@joeskeptical4762 the juice not worth the squeeze; it is too much of a headache.
9:55 - "Over 30 ("bodies") is a cut off" ...
I remember a result of a survey I read some years ago. An average of sexual partners for men was just under 10. Huge study group.
On top of that those results were inflated by a very small % of men with a stupidly high count - and under 10 was still the end result 🤐
Even a potato-shaped woman could easily rack up 30 in a fortnight, not a lifetime... but she has no idea, so drops 30 thinking the number is "conservative".
what she really means is 60-120
They use to imprison these kind of women in brothels chained down
You sound more hurt than anything.
Nothing is wrong with a high body count if you are okay with your significant other having a high body count.
Nothing is wrong with a low body count if you live up to the same expectation.
@@KJ-od8wq Please, try to avoid projecting your ideas of any hidden meaning behind what I wrote. It couldn't be simpler but if you want me to I will "spell it out" for you - dating "culture" shifted dramatically in recent years. What would have been perceived as unacceptable and promiscuous to the extreme just a few decades go is now viewed by many as "conservative" because the truth is even uglier. And your point is factually correct but falls on its face if taken a step further - nothing is wrong with having AIDS as long as your significant other is fine with you having AIDS. Nothing is wrong with not having AIDS as long as you live up to the same expectation... You can insert anything negative there (I used AIDS, but you can put "gambling debt", "drug addiction", "alcoholism") and it just reveals itself as a piece of "circular logic". High body count HAS negative consequences both physical and psychological. You may want to remain in a fantasy bubble land, but reality is out there waiting for you.
@@Kwodlibet
You are upset I am drawing a conclusion about you from what you wrote, yet you did the exact same thing with the girl in the video with the idea of being “conservative.” You’re already contradicting yourself just because I did exactly what you did (intentionally).
I wouldn’t call that “circular logic.” I would call that “having a consistent value system,” which in my opinion not having contradictory values is very important to have.
What one perceives as negative is relative, as you should have realized during the video, I.e. some not wanting a body count too high but some also not wanting a body count too low. Some people may want their person they are with having a high body count though, and some may want their significant other to be a virgin; what is perceived as good for one can be perceived as bad for another. You say “gambling debt is bad” but I can honestly think of 3 reasons off the top of my head as to why someone may actually like something like that when determining their significant other’s values.
Over the years I have learned it is very hard to perceive others in a negative light for the decisions they have made. They might not live up to what I want, but that’s okay because they will live up to what others want. Similarly, I likely would not live up to what they want, but others will accept me for who I am. There is no “perfect person,” only people with preferences.
What’s weird is when your girlfriend tells you she broke off her engagement to a guy who cheated on her, then she proceeds to cheat on you.
Thats how you know the problem was never the ex.. lol if the relationship was perfect why would he cheat? 😂 womens logic blows my mind sometimes
What is weird is that guys believe everything their girlfriends say about their EXs... how dumb do you have to be to not understand that you are getting your info from a source that wants to look good and doesn't want to take responsibility. Also women lie more than men especially about social happenings.
@@Lonewolfalchemist The relationship can be perfect yet people cheat, people cheat for a variety of reasons and not every single one has to do with being unsatisfied with the relationship. Some people literally get off on the idea of cheating
"So how many girls did you take here?" is a question I've been asked more than once by a date I took to [insert venue here]. They get visibly distraught when I don't answer or when I answer honestly. Damned if I do, damned if I don't. They want to feel special. Body count matters.
Promiscuous past is a promiscuous future. Debate all you want, no one takes care of a rental car. She's not yours, it's just your turn.
I think it would be very interesting getting the same perspective from men, asking them these questions. It's important for both males and females to understand how the opposite sex values these types of things. Woman wear white dresses on their wedding day, this symbolizes purity. The same way woman may prefer a man who is tall, confident, strong and wealthy, men value woman who are pure, beautiful and feminine. These are important conversations.
I had a friend with a very high body count. She didn't say how many but she did say more than a hundred, sometimes more than one in the same night. She wasn't my type and I don't think I was hers, so we were truly only friends/coworkers. But we really did like each other. Then she got sick, and died. She didn't die of anything sexual and was still only in her 30s. I have since realized how good she was, how nice she was, how kind she was, but if I am honest with myself I probably judged her on her sexual history. I truly regret that because she was much more than that. God bless her.
Here's the thing with body counts. They are important. The reason is compatibility. As a man in his 40s who has been in four relationships, three of which were physical (one was long distance), I find it important that they have the commitment and self respect. If they have too many, we wouldn't be compatible.
And I counter that to an extent. As a man in his 40s who has been married and divorced, and date women for around 2-3 months when we see if it is real or the honeymoon period ends and we go our separate ways as her true nature comes out. I fully expect people who have dated for 2-3 months to have slept together. And when it doesn't work out, on to the next. You don't find long term relationships by never dating. And it's a simple reality that if you date and spend 2, 3, 4 days a week together.....99% of people are going to have sex well before the 2-3 month mark. And it has nothing to do with a lack of self respect or inability to commit. Intimacy is human nature. As I've said elsewhere, you're an insecure child if you're in your 40s and asking for a body count. That's a kid's question.
@@Swearengen1980 you have your values, and I have mine. Obviously hook-up culture is what you're looking for. I'm not. You can call me an insecure child if it makes you feel better about the things you are insecure about. I don't feel the need to be doing the 2-3 month thing back to back. I'm not some college kid. 🤷♂️
@@jatbatman You completely mistook what I said and made unjustified assumptions I didn't say. I don't do hookups, I don't casually date. Every woman I date is with the intent for it to be long term, I'm in my 40s FFS. I don't even talk with more than 1 woman at a time because I don't believe you can give it a fair chance when you divide your attention among different people. And when you spend 20+ hours a week with someone, you get close to them quickly and intimacy/sex is a natural progression with most people. That's not "hook up" culture. I don't WANT each one to fall apart around 2-3 months, but that's generally the point when they finally show their deal breaking qualities like the absolute inability to compromise or communicate properly when your first conflicts arise. When they start talking about a future and realize they think they're going to dictate 100% of it like you're just tagging along. I'd add that people's dating styles are also different. I know a lot of people who date for 2 months and see each other for a 2 or 3 hour date every week. I've had first or second dates that lasted 12 hours and then we'd do it again the next day. The ones I click with right away, I'll spend more time with them in one weakened than you probably will with a woman you date in a month.
@@Swearengen1980 okay that sounds a bit better. It does sound like you may be looking for a deep connection before it's typically capable of naturally occurring. That may be part of the reason for them only lasting a few months. I totally understand that. If you were married for a long time, it's not unusual to want a deeper connection quickly. It can definitely lead to some issues though.
@@Swearengen1980 false, these counts are gross immoralality and women who should be banned from society even chained down in a brothel.
6:10. She said something very valid. I don’t want to fight for something no one is fighting for. Imagine being told what you fought for a bunch of people were just getting for free
Damn. Straight facts
True thus this world is being destroyed, because no one has anything to fight for. If the women are this bad how bad are the government people?
Numbers over 10 will never stop growing, including after marriage.
Most dudes can read signs.
Also, the rule of 3 always applies. If she admits to 5, the accurate is closer to 15.
High body count is bad for either partner! Just think of the STDs
Body count matters because our past matters. Our past includes early-life traumas which can affect a person's self-esteem, self-worth, and values. I think those are pretty important qualities to consider in choosing a partner. I wouldn't want to put all my eggs into one basket with a girl who has a high body count from having a long-time struggle with self-esteem and attracting male attention is something she emphasizes an importance on. And that's just one example.
Or she likes sex
Spot on comment!
Damn what a fricken gem and it’s something I never thought so profoundly about. It’s a feeling that’s been echoed I believe for me but not projected.
Is someone has changed what is the problem? You guys are ignoring the fact that people change. People have gotten over addictions and you think a woman cant change her mind about her sex life? Like come on. The last part really shows youre just scared she’ll leave which hints to your own self esteem issues. Because we see people change all the time, you’ve probably changed once in your life.
@@Blub2cool You seem to be mistaking the fact that people change, in that, that voids everything they’ve done. I’m sure people change and that can be a good thing, it does not change that the girl has been ran though in. It also has to do with how men and women value each other. Men value purity, and women value status.
Yes it matters! I highly suggest you ask a group of men questions like this.
I don't see why any emotionally secure man would even ask, let alone care. They should do a pole though so we can see how many insecure men are out there.
@@nimz8521 emotionally secure men are also successful men who dont want to share their life with a bad prospect long term. They won’t care if they’re into a lay for just a night though.
@@nimz8521 Men aren't insecure. They are simply trying to avoid degenerate women who are unfaithful, dirty and emotionally unstable.
@@nimz8521 Plenty of studies have been done about pair bonding. A woman who had many partners is unable to pair bond. If you just want sex and not a bond, then sure why ask. But if you want a woman who will go the distance, the fewer men she has been with the more able she is to bond. and vice versa
The phrase ``emotionally secure`` is pretty new. After the age of 12 no one cares about men's emotions. Men in general do not want the women they are dating and perhaps marry to have been run through by the football team. It's embarising and disrespectful. A women having a high body count shows that she can't keep a man and that she's not worth a long term investment. Emotions have nothing to do with it. It's all facts. Is she worth my time and money, or is she just a one night stand. Now what I just said sounds hurtful and some might say women/relationships shouldn't be compared to the stock market. But take your emotions out of the way and step back and look at it. Every relationship you have in your life is a investment in your life. Be it family, friends or even dating/marriage a relationship with a women with a high body count reflects poorly on the man. The actions of a mans girlfriend/wife and kids all reflect back on the man/father. That is the main fact. Is this man respectable, look at his wife and kids. That will tell you a lot and it will the foundation of the relationship be a friendship or business relationship.
Body count absolutely matters. A good sign of infidelity. I'm not trying to risk my life's work on a floozie and I don't want someone run through. (Admittedly, my dating options have improved tremendously since I hit my 30s.)
what do you mean by your options having improved?
Body count might be the best indicator of the probability for relationship longevity success. Couples that get married that have had no other sexual partners have a much better chance of lasting when compared to those who have had multiple sexual partners. Anyone who is interested in committing to someone else, should know the body count of the person they plan to commit to - at least a ballpark idea. A high body count can indicate a strong appetite for variation and a low ability to commit. It is an important question to ask and an important answer to be honest about. Above all a relationship needs to be built on trust and honesty. Just be honest and open about your past.
I'm 28 and I've only been with 4 women. And those were all serious relationships. Also, I value myself and I could go out and sleep with more women but I choose not to out of respect. It does come down to maturity and self respect.
💯💯 I’m 30 and only been with 1 woman. Never been in a relationship before or a date but out of respect I wouldn’t just sleep with any woman. Like you said it comes down to maturity and self respect.
You can have maturity and self respect and still get laid often...stop conflating this hierarchy with yall not getting laid😂😂😂...its like when a woman says Im single by choice.
@@dkvitaleme I was popular in high school, turned down a few offers from attractive women🤷♂️ all men arent the same. I dont value casual sex at all, and I am not tempted much either
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@@dkvitaleme As someone who was raised religiously I find hook ups to be repulsive, its got nothing to do with being unsuccessful in getting a girl, it is a choice. When woman says she is single by choice then thats true, if she lowers her values she will get a desperate guy.
I have a low body count of 1. Girls didn't give me the time of day in high school or college. I wasted my 20s with one girl who turned out to be crazy and fucked me up bad.
When I see women with body counts even above 10 it just sparks a deep resentment inside of me. It's weird. I know I shouldn't be upset about it, but I just can't help but feel like all women have to do is stand around and wait for a good time. I feel like guys have to get lucky and the most attractive players are just more lucky than me. So when I see a girl now trying for me I have the mindset that I'm just now getting used up leftovers and she only wants me now so that I can just give her a home, kids, or whatever and then she gets to take it all after divorce. Like girls didn't want me for me back then, why would they want me now?
Spot on!
Don’t take them later on when they just want your money.
I am in the same situation. I could reach a high bc but i didnt want to for moral/christian reasons. I am now 39 with a bc of 3(all relationships) and i look at promiscuous women and i am shocked they even dare to demand marriage from me
Fight on bro, we have to change this world because not only do you miss out on one of the best things on earth the whole world is ruined, the rivers of this planet and it's soil are about to completely die, meanwhile they can deludedly believe they are not so full of STD that any child they would have is mutant.
these women apparently think it is perfectly normal to lie to the person you are having a relationship with; what a great foundation for a future together.
Yes that was such utter trash behavior.
Hmmm....I think what matters more than body count is the context behind it. Mine was high early on. Why? Because I was immature, selfish, and not always honest. I also wasn't very selective. As I got into my 30's those things have started to change. In the last 14 years, I've been with four partners. Today, I value people more. So, context is everything.