First and foremost. You poor Brits and your taxes. I thought it was bad here in California…Second, thanks for your thoughts. Super cool that you got to review it for the launch. Looking forward to the full review. I got the white enamel on the J and will be using it as my “dress” watch. I know some people disagree with me, but my only criticism is that I think they released too many dials at once. Thanks as always!
It’s a nightmare mate honestly, we get taxed on tax and it’s become ridiculous. Am very happy to have been able to get hands on with the Ascent and I think it’s a cracking watch, you’ll love it I’m sure 👍👍
You said it Simon, the import costs via DHL are likely to be around £100 pushing up the price into the £400/£430 price bracket depending on spec. Nice and all as this watch is, it kills it for me. I'm not sure if there's any way for Erebus to avoid this by using a different shipping service. Helm for example invariably end up in the UK via Royal Mail with zero additional charges.
That is definitely going to be the BIG stumbling block for people buying this watch, as it’s not an inconsiderable amount of money. I’m still on the waiting list for a HELM (for all of them) and it seems like it’s been an eternity. Thanks for watching man 👍👍
@vicfg8052 good point but my understanding is the Phoibos no longer has a base in the UK, was too expensive. Perhaps as Erebus become more established, this could be something they look at 👍👍
Found the complaining about the dive watch hilarious. Clearly a well made and lovely looking watch. It seems to be with the constant reviews and never ending new watches that unnecessary granularity and critique is obsessed over. Just how I see it! This new one looks great too, thanks for the unbiased insight
I think you sum it up very well mate and I think, as I said in the video, some of the criticism was unfair. I think this one will do very well. Thanks for watching man 👍👍
@@WatchtheTime just bought the black dial Origin. Made it to the USA in 3 days. It got to my house yesterday, but I am away on a dog sitting job until Monday. It is killing me not to drive an hour home to go get it lol
Jody said in his launch video that this asend was originally his first idea, and first watch he wanted to make. But didn't for the diver. I'll ask you this who was Jody selling his watch to? His audience, not the general public, so he knew eveyone who watched him had divers. It's ridiculous to think that a diver would sell more, as it wasn't going to some big box store for non watch people to buy.
I was tempted to buy the dive watch when it first came out, was put off buy the waiting list, can't remember exactly but Jody was promoting the watch, however it wasn't available for a few months later. The import tax is a deal breaker for me. Love the channel - keep up the good work.
I hear that mate and given the import tax problems, I can see many, many people waiting for them to become available on eBay. Thanks for watching man 👍👍
I ordered the orange fume on day one. I'm really excited for this watch. Looking forward to your full review on the production model. Thanks for all that you do1
That one does look very nice. I’ll be sure to put out a full review, as and when I receive one and I’m sure you’ll love yours. Thanks for watching man 👍👍
Thank you reviewing the watch, I got the blue one on an O-style bracelet on preorder a couple weeks ago and been looking for videos with the blue one being displayed longer.
I think there are some lovely options in this model. I don't mind the size and i think the case is lovely. But I already have a nice GADA and a backup, so I just don't have the space in my watchbox for this one. Still - this is a stunner !
I get that mate, as I would have to make room in my collection given I have a couple GADA’a already, but this one is worth making room for. Thanks for watching man 👍👍
In my opinion the star of the show is the purple helix, however I could never wear it as id have to count all the squares every time I looked at it....overall it's a belter for sure....🏴⌚🏴⌚
Count all the squares, I hear that with my OCD mate 🤣 I really like this watch but can really see import being a stumbling block to big sales to the UK, unfortunately. Thanks for watching man 👍👍
I’ve shared my reason why I don’t feel the need to buy one, but these are fantastic looking watches for sure, I would be getting the purple dial one if I were to pull the trigger and the helix dials look incredible. Well done on this one JOMW and like the new review format on this video as well Simon. Well done on the review as always
I know that mate and as ever, I appreciate and respect your honest opinion. Some won’t like the variety of dials but I think in no small part, the dials help elevate the watch even further. Thanks for watching man, we definitely need a catch up soon 👍👍
@@WatchtheTime I don’t understand why any would not like the variety of dials, he’s got it so dam near everyone can get a dial that they prefer, and down the line I’m sure you can get a nice little discount on the colour variations that aren’t moving as fast as the others. Definitely a solid watch my fav is the purple or the black and orange fume dial
I’ve ordered the purple fumé on o style and black strap pack on launch day. Now with about 40 hours left on pre order I’m seriously considering a black or white enamel on j style!
Nice one mate. I can see the appeal and as I say in the video, with the different dial options coupled with the 2 different bracelets, you really can have a different look from the same model of watch 👍👍
Well done on being realistic about import fees into UK. I have an Assent and a Henry Archer Vesterhav Vega on their way. It will be interesting to see final costs of both and compare quality.
At 8:13, the paint around the date window is flawed. Would this consider a warranty item if it was a production model? You may want to stay away from the enamel models.
@@WatchtheTime As his watches are made in HK he really should sell them on there- Asia is a huge market, and people are used to buying all sorts on it. Pass it on 👍
It’s a Smart casual ie Office , night out , good for formal if you don’t want to buy a dress watch and every day wear. It’s not a beach, outdoor activity watch due to finishing
Perhaps but if you fit to a rubber strap, I think it would work in those situations too, so should be ok for most things (bar diving). Thanks for watching mate 👍👍
It's good that you mention the import duties and such, but it's the same when RUclipsrs point us EU citizens to Jomashop or any other shop outside of the EU, except Ali Express. At least here in Sweden we pay the prices including VAT directly on Ali. And then if an item is above around 145 Euro or 158 USD, we pay import duties when the item arrives at Customs.
I hear you mate and that’s the reason I seldom mention Jomashop, I’ve been burnt in the before I had a channel so although sometimes the price can seem great, following their delivery fees and import, it’s normally not. Thanks for watching man 👍👍
This is a much better effort than the diver but I'm not a fan of paying up front and waiting months. Adding the import taxes on top takes the shine off for me. I'm only buying affordables like this on a one in one out basis at present and there's nothing in my lower tier collection that I want to part with which is a happy place to be. I think this one will sell many more than the diver. I wonder if Jody will tell us later.
I hear you mate but I think it’s either like this through them or they do something similar on Kickstarter. It’s funny you mention, one in, one out as that exactly what I do, it takes a lot of being strict but ultimately it’s quality as you actually get to wear your watches, as I don’t like too big a collection tbh. Thanks for watching man 👍👍
The fact you plan to add both to your collection tells us all we need to know. I much prefer this to the Origin, and I'm sure it will sell well. I'm trying not to buy at the moment and with tax it's a bit more than I usually pay, but I can see myself regretting not buying in the future.
Beautiful watches just too small and too expensive in AUD for a Chinese built watch. Is it really a ceramic dial ? Its going to sell well so good luck to Jody and Steven.
It’s hard to compare as in Uk AliExpress watches imported seem to avoid Tax and Vat by declaring watch value at $30. It’s a sense of perspective. These watches are of similar cost to Smiths watches which are also made in China maybe in the same factory. I’ve always liked the Monta Noble but that’s £1450 and the Blue Helix gives a very similar vibe for a third of the price. Nearly all micro brand watches are made in China or at lest all the parts.
Buy a new Christopher Ward for a £1000 and you pay £200 in vat plus some import fees , you just don’t see the cost itemised . Same for all high street watches there are hidden fees lumped into the final retail price in uk.
Half the fun of the international assortment of reviews for Erebus has been seeing how drastically different peoples' pronunciation of their name is, and this one was no exception. Ereeeebus? lol
I don't understand, why can't we just ask Jody to underdeclare the cost of the watch (like just list it as $60 or whatever) when he ships it so we can avoid the import duties?
You raise a good point but I can only assume that it’s for insurance purposes, as at least this way, you and or Erebus would be covered for any losses 👍👍
My san Martin has just arrived direct from them : they declared it at $99 ( it was plenty more) , but it wasn’t picked up for duty anyway … delighted 👍
Looking at the website - the new prices seem to include all the taxes and shipping costs to the UK now. Not cheap by any stretch of the imagination... mine is on a red helix and will be costing just over £500 all in. UK is a shit show unfortunately, we are being ripped off by the government but nothing we can do for the next 4.5 years... in fact it will probably get worse as they milk us for all they can get, so expect sales to the UK to drop in the next few years. Pity as these look like pretty good watches.
They put out too many models in one go. They shot all their bullets. They should have kept a few bullets in the chamber for later. It's bad brand management IMHO. Anyway they aren't bad, but I bought another Christopher Ward instead. The Erebus logo looks like a cat's behind, according to the Mad Watch Collector's wife, and now I can't unsee that cat's bunghole. That and "Ascent" sounds like "ass scent' also puts me off
I respect your opinion mate but I stand by my comments. Entering the game strong with something for everyone after their first watch was slated so much, is a good move IMO and the stuff you mentioned is exactly the reason I don’t watch other peoples videos, especially before producing my own, I don’t want it to influence my opinion and subsequently the review. Thanks for your honest feedback and for watching 👍👍
I would question if the mad watch collectors wife says half the stuff he says she does lol. A lot of reviewers seem to do the old 'false negative' (not you WtT) where they make up a negative they know people do not see as one, thereby feel there are no negatives.
I’m confused by your comment mate. I’m not sure you’re asking a question and I don’t completely understand the statement. Nothing wrong with Invicta’s, if that’s your thing 👍👍
@WatchtheTime No worries Mate, just a poor attempt at comedy on my part. Also there's nothing wrong with Invicta. I have friends who have owned them for ten+ years & never had a problem with them. GOOD VIDEO!
JOMW was the first watch channel I subscribed to so wanted to like these watches but the company name is a deal breaker for me and have zero interest .There are an infinite amount of names and they choose a God of the Underworld ,the personifcation of darkness.?I've asked him directly why ?With no answer so far
Just recieved my San Martin SN0113W V2 from then. Great spec and finishing , blue dial is a stunner … for £166 DELIVERED with NO duty 😊. And btw - this comes from the same factory as the Erebus - that’s who makes them !! Marginal gain in quality with the Erebus , BUT …£££ ouch = why pay it..hype ?
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First and foremost. You poor Brits and your taxes. I thought it was bad here in California…Second, thanks for your thoughts. Super cool that you got to review it for the launch. Looking forward to the full review. I got the white enamel on the J and will be using it as my “dress” watch. I know some people disagree with me, but my only criticism is that I think they released too many dials at once. Thanks as always!
It’s a nightmare mate honestly, we get taxed on tax and it’s become ridiculous. Am very happy to have been able to get hands on with the Ascent and I think it’s a cracking watch, you’ll love it I’m sure 👍👍
You said it Simon, the import costs via DHL are likely to be around £100 pushing up the price into the £400/£430 price bracket depending on spec. Nice and all as this watch is, it kills it for me. I'm not sure if there's any way for Erebus to avoid this by using a different shipping service. Helm for example invariably end up in the UK via Royal Mail with zero additional charges.
That is definitely going to be the BIG stumbling block for people buying this watch, as it’s not an inconsiderable amount of money. I’m still on the waiting list for a HELM (for all of them) and it seems like it’s been an eternity. Thanks for watching man 👍👍
I had wondered about the same question. Phoibos (HK) has UK and Europe (maybe USA as well?) delivery hubs to mitigate those issues.
@vicfg8052 good point but my understanding is the Phoibos no longer has a base in the UK, was too expensive. Perhaps as Erebus become more established, this could be something they look at 👍👍
@@WatchtheTime do you now have to pay import duties on goods from Europe. I rather like the new Argo from Phoibos.
@S-Ltd1000 I don’t believe so mate or at least I never have 👍👍
Found the complaining about the dive watch hilarious. Clearly a well made and lovely looking watch. It seems to be with the constant reviews and never ending new watches that unnecessary granularity and critique is obsessed over. Just how I see it!
This new one looks great too, thanks for the unbiased insight
I think you sum it up very well mate and I think, as I said in the video, some of the criticism was unfair. I think this one will do very well.
Thanks for watching man 👍👍
@@WatchtheTime just bought the black dial Origin. Made it to the USA in 3 days. It got to my house yesterday, but I am away on a dog sitting job until Monday. It is killing me not to drive an hour home to go get it lol
Jody said in his launch video that this asend was originally his first idea, and first watch he wanted to make. But didn't for the diver.
I'll ask you this who was Jody selling his watch to? His audience, not the general public, so he knew eveyone who watched him had divers. It's ridiculous to think that a diver would sell more, as it wasn't going to some big box store for non watch people to buy.
I was tempted to buy the dive watch when it first came out, was put off buy the waiting list, can't remember exactly but Jody was promoting the watch, however it wasn't available for a few months later. The import tax is a deal breaker for me. Love the channel - keep up the good work.
I hear that mate and given the import tax problems, I can see many, many people waiting for them to become available on eBay. Thanks for watching man 👍👍
I ordered the orange fume on day one. I'm really excited for this watch. Looking forward to your full review on the production model. Thanks for all that you do1
That one does look very nice. I’ll be sure to put out a full review, as and when I receive one and I’m sure you’ll love yours. Thanks for watching man 👍👍
Big fan of both channels. Love the review, mate! The plain blue dial would be my pick... subtle Grand Seiko vibes going on there.
I can’t definitely see that mate. Am glad you like the watch and appreciate all your support - thank you 👍👍
Thank you reviewing the watch, I got the blue one on an O-style bracelet on preorder a couple weeks ago and been looking for videos with the blue one being displayed longer.
Ah nice one man, am pleased I could show it to you and am sure you’ll love it 👍👍
I think there are some lovely options in this model. I don't mind the size and i think the case is lovely. But I already have a nice GADA and a backup, so I just don't have the space in my watchbox for this one. Still - this is a stunner !
I get that mate, as I would have to make room in my collection given I have a couple GADA’a already, but this one is worth making room for. Thanks for watching man 👍👍
then you need another watch box. I have 6.
@thesolver1970 now don’t be a bad influence 🤣🤣
Awesome review my friend, good looking watch I think it will be popular 👌🏻
Thanks man, I really appreciate your support and I’m glad you like the watch 👍👍
In my opinion the star of the show is the purple helix, however I could never wear it as id have to count all the squares every time I looked at it....overall it's a belter for sure....🏴⌚🏴⌚
Count all the squares, I hear that with my OCD mate 🤣
I really like this watch but can really see import being a stumbling block to big sales to the UK, unfortunately. Thanks for watching man 👍👍
@@WatchtheTime it is a bit which is unfortunate, this might be one to check out the used market later on....🏴⌚🏴⌚
@briancolyer8483 I think many, many others will do the same as well mate 👍👍
Thanks for the great review mate! ❤
No problem mate - thanks for watching 👍👍
I’ve shared my reason why I don’t feel the need to buy one, but these are fantastic looking watches for sure, I would be getting the purple dial one if I were to pull the trigger and the helix dials look incredible. Well done on this one JOMW and like the new review format on this video as well Simon. Well done on the review as always
I know that mate and as ever, I appreciate and respect your honest opinion. Some won’t like the variety of dials but I think in no small part, the dials help elevate the watch even further. Thanks for watching man, we definitely need a catch up soon 👍👍
@@WatchtheTime I don’t understand why any would not like the variety of dials, he’s got it so dam near everyone can get a dial that they prefer, and down the line I’m sure you can get a nice little discount on the colour variations that aren’t moving as fast as the others. Definitely a solid watch my fav is the purple or the black and orange fume dial
@MirrlyonTime exactly my thoughts mate 👍👍
Great to see the footage of the black helix. That’s the one I ordered. ❤
Am really pleased I could show you more of the watch you’ve already purchased mate 👍👍
I’ve ordered the purple fumé on o style and black strap pack on launch day. Now with about 40 hours left on pre order I’m seriously considering a black or white enamel on j style!
Nice one mate. I can see the appeal and as I say in the video, with the different dial options coupled with the 2 different bracelets, you really can have a different look from the same model of watch 👍👍
Well done on being realistic about import fees into UK.
I have an Assent and a Henry Archer Vesterhav Vega on their way.
It will be interesting to see final costs of both and compare quality.
Thanks mate, I am always as honest as I can be and I’m sure you’ll love both watches man 👍👍
@@WatchtheTime I cannot wait and agree neither will probably disappoint.
At 8:13, the paint around the date window is flawed. Would this consider a warranty item if it was a production model? You may want to stay away from the enamel models.
I’m certain that any problem(s) won’t be evident in production models but yes, I’d assume it would be covered under warranty 👍👍
Beautiful watches. Wish he sold them on AliExpress (I'm in Asia).
Would you have the same problems as us in the UK with import duties payable??
@@WatchtheTime Not from AliExpress.
Ok 👍👍
@@WatchtheTime As his watches are made in HK he really should sell them on there- Asia is a huge market, and people are used to buying all sorts on it. Pass it on 👍
It’s a Smart casual ie Office , night out , good for formal if you don’t want to buy a dress watch and every day wear. It’s not a beach, outdoor activity watch due to finishing
Perhaps but if you fit to a rubber strap, I think it would work in those situations too, so should be ok for most things (bar diving). Thanks for watching mate 👍👍
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Thanks for watching 👍👍
It's good that you mention the import duties and such, but it's the same when RUclipsrs point us EU citizens to Jomashop or any other shop outside of the EU, except Ali Express. At least here in Sweden we pay the prices including VAT directly on Ali. And then if an item is above around 145 Euro or 158 USD, we pay import duties when the item arrives at Customs.
I hear you mate and that’s the reason I seldom mention Jomashop, I’ve been burnt in the before I had a channel so although sometimes the price can seem great, following their delivery fees and import, it’s normally not. Thanks for watching man 👍👍
its ok but with import charges its not for me great review.
No problem mate, I completely understand your frustration and I think many will echo your sentiments. Thanks for watching man 👍👍
This is a much better effort than the diver but I'm not a fan of paying up front and waiting months. Adding the import taxes on top takes the shine off for me. I'm only buying affordables like this on a one in one out basis at present and there's nothing in my lower tier collection that I want to part with which is a happy place to be. I think this one will sell many more than the diver. I wonder if Jody will tell us later.
I hear you mate but I think it’s either like this through them or they do something similar on Kickstarter. It’s funny you mention, one in, one out as that exactly what I do, it takes a lot of being strict but ultimately it’s quality as you actually get to wear your watches, as I don’t like too big a collection tbh. Thanks for watching man 👍👍
The fact you plan to add both to your collection tells us all we need to know. I much prefer this to the Origin, and I'm sure it will sell well. I'm trying not to buy at the moment and with tax it's a bit more than I usually pay, but I can see myself regretting not buying in the future.
I get that mate, this hobby of ours can be extremely expensive unfortunately. Many thanks for watching man 👍👍
This picks up where Seiko fumbled following what they did with the glorious SARB...
I hear you man, these watch do give me huge SARB vibes, which isn’t a bad thing 👍👍
I have bought the Purple fume Version of the ascent .
Ah nice one mate am sure you’ll love it 👍👍
i love you so much! I recently just found your nkuwan and i’m in love!! Your videos are so fun and you energy is just MWAH! keep living your life
Thanks for your support and for watching mate 👍👍
A see through caseback would be nice.
Good shout mate 👍👍
Beautiful watches just too small and too expensive in AUD for a Chinese built watch. Is it really a ceramic dial ? Its going to sell well so good luck to Jody and Steven.
I believe they are genuine mineral dials, at least that is what has been said 👍👍
It’s hard to compare as in Uk AliExpress watches imported seem to avoid Tax and Vat by declaring watch value at $30. It’s a sense of perspective. These watches are of similar cost to Smiths watches which are also made in China maybe in the same factory. I’ve always liked the Monta Noble but that’s £1450 and the Blue Helix gives a very similar vibe for a third of the price. Nearly all micro brand watches are made in China or at lest all the parts.
@johnholkham2420 very true and I must say I really like Monta watches, a little bit out of my price range also but look fantastic for sure 👍👍
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Buy a new Christopher Ward for a £1000 and you pay £200 in vat plus some import fees , you just don’t see the cost itemised . Same for all high street watches there are hidden fees lumped into the final retail price in uk.
Really?? Thanks for the info mate 👍👍
Christopher Ward are a UK brand. There are no import fees.
I got a CW for my birthday and for UK buyers there is no import, probably will be depending on what country you’re in 👍👍
Half the fun of the international assortment of reviews for Erebus has been seeing how drastically different peoples' pronunciation of their name is, and this one was no exception. Ereeeebus? lol
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I don't understand, why can't we just ask Jody to underdeclare the cost of the watch (like just list it as $60 or whatever) when he ships it so we can avoid the import duties?
You raise a good point but I can only assume that it’s for insurance purposes, as at least this way, you and or Erebus would be covered for any losses 👍👍
Because that's illegal, serious penalties apply both for the seller and, I presume, for the buyer
My san Martin has just arrived direct from them : they declared it at $99 ( it was plenty more) , but it wasn’t picked up for duty anyway … delighted 👍
Looking at the website - the new prices seem to include all the taxes and shipping costs to the UK now. Not cheap by any stretch of the imagination... mine is on a red helix and will be costing just over £500 all in. UK is a shit show unfortunately, we are being ripped off by the government but nothing we can do for the next 4.5 years... in fact it will probably get worse as they milk us for all they can get, so expect sales to the UK to drop in the next few years. Pity as these look like pretty good watches.
Thanks for the info mate and these really are amazing watches, that still represent great value for many - not much better out there IMO 👍👍
Very nice watches,but the tax could make it too much.
That is definitely a problem for those who will get stung for import, which is a shame as it’s a cracking piece 👍👍
It is so hard to choose!!!!
It is but I guess it’s a nice problem to have 👍👍
They put out too many models in one go. They shot all their bullets. They should have kept a few bullets in the chamber for later. It's bad brand management IMHO. Anyway they aren't bad, but I bought another Christopher Ward instead. The Erebus logo looks like a cat's behind, according to the Mad Watch Collector's wife, and now I can't unsee that cat's bunghole. That and "Ascent" sounds like "ass scent' also puts me off
I respect your opinion mate but I stand by my comments. Entering the game strong with something for everyone after their first watch was slated so much, is a good move IMO and the stuff you mentioned is exactly the reason I don’t watch other peoples videos, especially before producing my own, I don’t want it to influence my opinion and subsequently the review. Thanks for your honest feedback and for watching 👍👍
I think they have brought a large number of cases and dials , high volume reduces the manufacturing price, there then buy movements when required.
I would question if the mad watch collectors wife says half the stuff he says she does lol.
A lot of reviewers seem to do the old 'false negative' (not you WtT) where they make up a negative they know people do not see as one, thereby feel there are no negatives.
@wristopia4101 I can’t say much on that mate but… well said man 👍👍
Erebus ? Why not go all in & start wearing an Invicta ? Bit of trivia, in Latin "erebus means Chinese junk.
I’m confused by your comment mate. I’m not sure you’re asking a question and I don’t completely understand the statement. Nothing wrong with Invicta’s, if that’s your thing 👍👍
@WatchtheTime No worries Mate, just a poor attempt at comedy on my part. Also there's nothing wrong with Invicta. I have friends who have owned them for ten+ years & never had a problem with them. GOOD VIDEO!
@finster444k oh I see, sorry mate am having one of those weeks 🤣
Thanks for watching man 👍👍
JOMW was the first watch channel I subscribed to so wanted to like these watches but the company name is a deal breaker for me and have zero interest .There are an infinite amount of names and they choose a God of the Underworld ,the personifcation of darkness.?I've asked him directly why ?With no answer so far
Fair enough mate. I didn’t know that’s what the name meant, so thanks for the information and yes, it’s a strange one in that case 👍👍
Sorry too much expensive for my wallet.
No problem mate, I completely understand and I appreciate you watching anyway, thank you 👍👍
Just recieved my San Martin SN0113W V2 from then. Great spec and finishing , blue dial is a stunner … for £166 DELIVERED with NO duty 😊. And btw - this comes from the same factory as the Erebus - that’s who makes them !! Marginal gain in quality with the Erebus , BUT …£££ ouch = why pay it..hype ?
you’re literally my comfort person i love you #nkuwan !
Thanks for your support 👍👍