@@jamesford1709 Yes. It's good. But looking for one that addresses load in bed of truck, hence the slide in camper I speak of in my post. Appreciate the response. Thx.
MT64's for the win. I'm an overlander, so I constantly run heavy and I can absolutely attest that the 64's are VERY comfortable when loaded down Unloaded, they make my Taco drive a sports car; stiff in the right places and snappy in the rebound, my truck drives like it's on rails. Sorry, but I'm not a full time overlander and I'm not bombing trails. So I absolutely do not see the need for 51's, especially not when I get absolutely everything I need and then some from the 64's. That said, please understand that I did not purchase just the shocks, but rather, the entire suspension front and back and still made it out for less than 4k, including OME UCA's. The daily driver/weekend warrior does not need the 51's unless you just have that kind of money to burn.
« They make my Taco drive like a sports car » so they are pretty stiff unloaded. So unloaded it is not plush at all, if I get that right ? I am tired of being bounced around on the original suspension and for the plush ride, I think the BP-51 might provide that, no?
@@OldelCpt if you want to tone that down, then yes, the BP-51's could give you just about any ride you want. Personally, for me, I prefer the positive input. Then again, even unloaded, I still have a heavy bitch due to the under armor, rock sliders, winch and bumpers 🤪
Thanks guys! In order to ensure that the car and family sit comfortably while driving on the highway, what is the best way to adjust the rebound and compression BP51?
MT64 is in a totally different playing field with the diameter of that shock body. I’m suspecting they would perform better in most situations than the bp51 despite the marketing
I heard the BP51 was going to be discontinued . Is that true? And if so, for how long after would you guys be able to service them for? Or is there a servicing kit that someone can purchase?
Living in Honduras, about 80% of driving is on rocky dirt and potholes. Obviously the BP51 is the best choice for comfort, but the budget isn't there for me. The MT64s look interesting. How well should they perform, comfort wise, in and unloaded Taco in this environment with the full suspension kit compared to stock? Thanks for the video
Can you do a video explaining how you set up compression/rebound on the BP51's please? Very interested in your logic for setting up for corrugations, and also for softish sand. Thanks - David
Are the BP51s a true 3" lift suspension for a 4Runner? I've heard rumors and read forums that they are not really true 3" lifts but more towards 2.5" if even. If you want 3" you need to have excessive weight because if not any bump or pothole will feel like a sledgehammer in the front. Is this true?
There's technically a way to get to 3" of lift, but its ILL-ADVISED! The thing we've found with OME shocks is their sweet spot is 2" of lift, while 3" results in regular top-out and much poorer ride, especially if its an unloaded 3". Going to 3" cuts the vehicle's down travel, and if the roads are poor, you'll feel harshness often. There are settings for 1.75" - 2.5" that should ride well, which we can help set you up with.
@@ShockSurplus do you have any suggestions for a suggestion that does give 3" without the harshness? Looking to achieve that rather than spending my money on something that does not. TIA!
much different shocks, while they're close in body-thickness spec, internals are basically opposite end of the spectrum. What vehicle do you have and what kind of driving do you plan on with the new setup? support@shocksurplus.com
@@ShockSurplus 2019 Land Cruiser w/ Kdss, only do light off roading, as the vehicle is also used around the city and highway speeds but I do enjoy the occasional “baja style” higher speed off road Planning to install 33” tires and shock upgrade How do the 2 shocks differ, in what way?
Best factual and explaining video on the topic. Thanks a lot, from South Africa.
MT64’s for me by far the best for my on and off road applications. Form & Function
Need an indepth video on condition based BP51 adjustments. On road, off-road, towing, carrying a slide in camper, whoops, etc.
Arb does one
@@jamesford1709 Yes. It's good. But looking for one that addresses load in bed of truck, hence the slide in camper I speak of in my post. Appreciate the response. Thx.
@@JesusWSalazaryou should buy then and make that video.
Great video mate! Very informative! Commenting from Australia 🤙🏻
glad we could help!
MT64's for the win. I'm an overlander, so I constantly run heavy and I can absolutely attest that the 64's are VERY comfortable when loaded down Unloaded, they make my Taco drive a sports car; stiff in the right places and snappy in the rebound, my truck drives like it's on rails. Sorry, but I'm not a full time overlander and I'm not bombing trails. So I absolutely do not see the need for 51's, especially not when I get absolutely everything I need and then some from the 64's. That said, please understand that I did not purchase just the shocks, but rather, the entire suspension front and back and still made it out for less than 4k, including OME UCA's. The daily driver/weekend warrior does not need the 51's unless you just have that kind of money to burn.
« They make my Taco drive like a sports car » so they are pretty stiff unloaded. So unloaded it is not plush at all, if I get that right ? I am tired of being bounced around on the original suspension and for the plush ride, I think the BP-51 might provide that, no?
@@OldelCpt if you want to tone that down, then yes, the BP-51's could give you just about any ride you want. Personally, for me, I prefer the positive input. Then again, even unloaded, I still have a heavy bitch due to the under armor, rock sliders, winch and bumpers 🤪
Which one to go for a medium and high-speed gravel road? Unladen
Thanks guys! In order to ensure that the car and family sit comfortably while driving on the highway, what is the best way to adjust the rebound and compression BP51?
Thank you! But do they all have the same travel? Or different?
by application they're likely going to be nearly the same extended lengths, maybe slightly different on compressed length for the MT64.
So if I heard/understand correctly the MT64 would need an updated front coil that fits this larger body compared to the Nitro’s?
the nitros and mt64 are going to be using the same size spring going forward
Hope you can make a review ironman 4x4 shocks too!
MT64 is in a totally different playing field with the diameter of that shock body. I’m suspecting they would perform better in most situations than the bp51 despite the marketing
maybe at the high speed offroad stuff yes, but there's no way an MT64 is getting nearly as comfortable or soft as a BP51 can get.
I heard the BP51 was going to be discontinued . Is that true? And if so, for how long after would you guys be able to service them for? Or is there a servicing kit that someone can purchase?
we haven't heard anything like that about discontinuation
Need a video & review about MT64 for the 3rd Tacoma
Do they male a shock for the gen 3 tundras?
MT64 and BP51 are surely on the way for the newer Tundras, subscribe and we'll be letting you know asap
Living in Honduras, about 80% of driving is on rocky dirt and potholes. Obviously the BP51 is the best choice for comfort, but the budget isn't there for me. The MT64s look interesting. How well should they perform, comfort wise, in and unloaded Taco in this environment with the full suspension kit compared to stock? Thanks for the video
Can you do a video explaining how you set up compression/rebound on the BP51's please?
Very interested in your logic for setting up for corrugations, and also for softish sand.
Thanks - David
Are the BP51s a true 3" lift suspension for a 4Runner? I've heard rumors and read forums that they are not really true 3" lifts but more towards 2.5" if even. If you want 3" you need to have excessive weight because if not any bump or pothole will feel like a sledgehammer in the front. Is this true?
There's technically a way to get to 3" of lift, but its ILL-ADVISED! The thing we've found with OME shocks is their sweet spot is 2" of lift, while 3" results in regular top-out and much poorer ride, especially if its an unloaded 3". Going to 3" cuts the vehicle's down travel, and if the roads are poor, you'll feel harshness often.
There are settings for 1.75" - 2.5" that should ride well, which we can help set you up with.
@@ShockSurplus do you have any suggestions for a suggestion that does give 3" without the harshness? Looking to achieve that rather than spending my money on something that does not. TIA!
Hey I know not the best place to ask but how do I contact y’all if some of my shocks are missing some pieces?
We'll take care of you, support@shocksurplus.com
Which is better IRONMAN FOAMCELL PRO or MT64?
much different shocks, while they're close in body-thickness spec, internals are basically opposite end of the spectrum. What vehicle do you have and what kind of driving do you plan on with the new setup?
support@shocksurplus.com
@@ShockSurplus 2019 Land Cruiser w/ Kdss, only do light off roading, as the vehicle is also used around the city and highway speeds
but I do enjoy the occasional “baja style” higher speed off road
Planning to install 33” tires and shock upgrade
How do the 2 shocks differ, in what way?
11:20 pause grab’s script
its more like 'lets make sure to answer all the questions we've gotten'
Need the mt 64 for bronco .
probably wont be for a while
Me watching this while still using non charged shocks because it's comfy at corrugation😅🤣🤣
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