I’m so glad there’s some people who remember it, Stay Alive was one of my first horror movies that really stuck with me. It’s no masterpiece but every movie has their fans.
From what I remember, Loomis found his roommates bodies in game and came to their room to tell them, they mentioned they stopped playing hours ago. Also Finn had lied when he said he stopped playing, he died in game and went for drive to blow off steam.
Okay as someone who loves this movie I just had to come here and say: they never state clearly I don’t think that October is Hutches girlfriend- I always got that she and Phin were really good friends of his from childhood, and she’s almost like an older sister/mother figure to Hutch Edit: the official wiki does state clearly October and Phineas are good friends of Hutches- this was driving me crazy during the review but it’s an honest mistake, just thought you guys should know!
@@Xxbaesiaa same! I watch this movie like twice a year since I first saw it when I was 9, and I’ve never thought that lol. I guess because October reminds me so much of my older sister as well XD
also the reason the game starts playing itself for them is because one of them finds the evil witches mirrow and turns it over to use the back after the glass smashes. I also remember the cops death but im pretty sure i watched the regular theatrical copy
Ok. I'm glad it wasn't just me that for whatever reason was really being bothered by this during the podcast lol. Cus I definitely had the same like "brother/sister" vibe and not dating vibe from Hutch and October. So thank you for confirming I wasn't the only one haha
@@tatsukagemarou the DVD menu had a lil special feature section where you were gonna "play" the game and it let you create a lil avatar using like head/torso/legs options!
I unironically love this movie. I saw it in theaters when i was around 8 or 9 and I loved Frankie Muniez in it (I was a big Malcolm in the Middle fan). it was genuinely scary and i remember being reallt impressed with the effects. I rewatched it recently and enjoyed it just as much while being able to turn a critical eye to all the stuff i missed as a kid or that didnt hold up, but Frankie's character getting locked out of the van while the game plays itself, yelling "BITCH THAT’S CHEATING" has stuck in my head and I'll just randomly say it out loud sometimes
I wasn't lucky enough to see it in theaters but I grew up watching it and loving it. I always thought it was funny like the later chucky films. While I never watched Malcolm in the middle I always loved Agent Cody Banks and called/still call Munez that whenever I see him in something 🤣
The game can unpause itself, that's why they keep dying even after they stop playing, and this is why Jimmi Simpson's character dies even though he paused it. They later see that the game is unpaused when they look at his computer. Although some of this may have been cut from the unrated version. Edit: Also, the cop dies in both versions, I watched the theatrical cut
yeah. the cop still goes to the game store but when he's strapped to the drivers seat, the cut happens and you see the blood. I love Dead Meat but they really tuned out on this watch if they didn't catch the game playing without the players anyway
@@TaoStars309 To be fair to James and Chelsea, this movie to some is a total snoozefest. Including me. I watched it before watching this episode and I didn't notice that either cause I was so bored.
@@TaoStars309 but I swear I’ve seen a version where you actually see that whole death happen with out it just cutting to the blood splattering? If I’m not mistaking. Or unless that is the unrated version?
17:30 quick correction. in the movie they were talking about Silent Hill 4 not RE4, and the scene got me mad cause there's no Hyperblaster in that game and the final boss is not a girl. they mixed up the info from the first SH. great podcast
i rewatched this movie a couple months ago and that part pissed me off so much bc wow! did no one know anything on set? 😭 i was like they're really just saying stuff what the hell
I love the Silent Hill games, and I didn't know that the first game had a hyperblaster. I literally thought "hyperblaster" was just generic BS video game vocabulary that they threw in to sound like they knew what they were talking about lmao
Yeah, that scene still irks me since the hyper blaster and no ammo trick is Silent Hill 1, not 4, and also unless he had a justifier, the only way to get the hyper blaster is to get the UFO ending, which requires you to have beaten the game once before. So even if he was on the right system and game, it wouldn’t make sense for him to have the hyper blaster and still need help beating the final boss. And it irks me because if they had put some effort in, they could have used SH4 but instead made it about using the candle to cure Eileen so you have more time during the final boss. If you’re gonna pander you gamers are least get it right, lol
Regarding the two "roommates" who were killed, there actually ARE a couple of lines in that sex scene that explain it. Loomis: "I found you guys in the game...you got it good." Guy: "We haven't played for hours." So they DID actually play and die. Edit: Also, the game that Loomis and his boss talk about wasn't Resident Evil 4, but actually Silent Hill 4. I remember this weird, specific detail because I remember how much it bothered me that they were obviously not describing Silent Hill 4 lol And I actually couldn't remember how Abigail knew the other characters, so I had to Google it. Apparently, she was close with Loomis, and grew up with the female roommate who was killed in the opening scene. There's dialogue that mentions this in the movie. As much as I like this movie, I'm starting to realize that it has a problem with handwaving away explanations for things. It quickly mentions things in a forgettable way.
Yeah, there is a lot of the plot explained in this but... it's just all so forgettable that people think that there are more plot holes in this than there actually are.
@@tinkerer3399 One thing that SERIOUSLY had me confused the first time I watched it was Swink's "death". I noticed that he was surrounded by roses, so I thought to myself "oh, he's gonna be fine then." And then, cut to his computer screen and his character is dead. From that point up until they reveal Swink is actually still alive, I was genuinely irritated by the fact that he died. Because, given the setup with the roses, his death didn't make sense. Come to find out, of course, he didn't actually die thanks presumably to those roses. But that's where we get into something that irritates me about the movie to this day; his character in the game DID die. The roses saved the real Swink in that moment, but his character STILL died. So based on the previously established rules, he should've gotten killed later, but he never did. And that's another thing! The movie ALSO established that you could do things in the game, and it would affect the real world, such as materializing the crowbar and unlocking the door. So if this is true, how did Swink's game character die? If the real Swink was surrounded by roses, that should've meant there were roses in the game too, which would've saved his game character's life. I really like this movie, but there are certain things about it that I have to admit feel like such a mess lol
As someone living in Louisiana, it felt refreshing being able to go to each location in this movie. This movie was an odd one but I think I mainly like because of the lack of movies that take place in my home state. Love the podcast!
As for the roommate and his gf in the beginning: lumis finds their bodies in the game and when he tells them about it they say that they stopped playing a while ago and were alive, hinting at the game keeps playing no matter what
I’ve loved this movie for so many years. I never realized how bad it was when i was younger, but as an adult i can see how truly awful it is. I still have a soft spot for it in my heart, and will always think of it fondly no matter what.
14:05 when he's playing the game, he sees the bodies of his friends' characters before he dies. When he mentions it after catching his friends in bed, his housemate says, "we haven't played for hours", which means they did play, but stopped a long time ago so the game probably took over and killed them on its own. I think to make sure the characters can't pull the 'just don't play' BS, they had it that the game takes over and connects the characters to their game avatars so what they do in real life is what they're doing in the game. Still plays along with the idea that the players become connected to the game, just that the curse has a stronger effect over time. 49:30 the cop does show up again in the theatrical version, he goes to a game store to ask about Stay Alive, when he's back in his car, he sees the Countess in the rear view mirror and it cuts away to outside his car when he dies (blood splatter on the window).
Yeah I think it's because they only watched the directors cut and not the theatrical release movie that they're confused about lots of scenes. I personally loved watching this and this movie is why I never ever ever play these types of games in real life. They scare the shit out of me lol
i recently rewatched this movie for the podcast and watching you guys talk about it, i didn’t realize how protective i am of this stupid movie 😂😂 AND IM NOT EVEN A GAMER 😂
I'm that guy that owns the original movie poster, has the soundtrack and both versions of the film lol I'm actually doing a breakdown video soon of this movie as a fan of survival horror games. Is it a good movie.NOPE. But it was fun and ambitious idea for a movie, plus the Commentary on the unrated dvd was hilarious!
Abigail and October literally had the same deaths/near deaths, Both girls were chained by their ankles and hung upside down from the ceiling as Báthory either slits their throat or eats their blood. The only real difference is October dies but Abigail survives
K so I know this episode is a year old but I started bingeing the podcasts and this one is absolutely hilarious… especially due toJames’ absolute fury at all the nonsensical plot shit and how incomprehensible it is. James and Chelsea, love your channel, love your content, love your podcast!!! Thank you for all you give us with Dead Meat 🤘🏼❤️
Me: ooh a new podcast episode! And it’s about one of my favorite horror movies. Yeah it’s got some quirks but I’m not guilty for liking it. Chelsea: we need to trash up the channel. Me: oh 🙂
Hahaha chin up though, I loved it in a legitimate way and know a lot of others did too; it's just different perspective is all. Nobody is really right or wrong in art, a lot of important points were missed in the podcast but the overhandling by Disney made the overall poorness of the movie. I imagine if it was handled like a true horror film from start to end it would have been a really great movie
I love that you gave a shoutout to Cecil at GoodBadFlicks. I've been watching his videos for more than a decade, and his channel deserves a lot of subs.
I can see why people hate Stay Alive. I genuinely like it. I like the premise behind it. It's based on a true horror story. But this movie specifically is tailered for a certain demographic. It's not for everyone.
Wait what do you mean "based on a true horror story," what? Edit: I'm now aware they're referring to Elizabeth Bathory. I kinda forgot about that angle of the movie and was more confused as to whether there'd been a real-world case of deaths tied to a video game.
The two room mates were playing the game as loomis informs them “your characters got it bad” to where the roommate responds we haven’t been playing for hours
Which is why it's ridiculous because the video game was unnecessary. Even more unnecessary when you think about how soon in the movie they stop playing it. It's like they included the gaming aspect as an excuse for shitty CGI characters
😂😂 i agree , had this movie came out in the 2010s wv better CGI it probably would have looked better ❤😂 , i just feel like this movie was the laziest portrayal of the Elizabeth Bathory *Legend* 💔😡 @@invaderhemp
I remember this was one of the few horror movies I watched as a kid that got my foot into horror other than The Shining and Jeepers Creepers. While it is a bad horror movie now as an adult, it’s still slightly my guilty pleasure because of the cast and I liked the concept. Loved hearing your thoughts and opinions on the movie, such a funny podcast!
Fun fact: the magazine advertising Stay Alive at the end of the movie, the front cover was actually covering gears of war. Epic gave away the copies used in the movie to subscribers of the magazine.
I have been waiting on this episode; from before I watched this movie, I had some knowledge of the Countess, the main antagonist, and so watching this movie, I was like "okay, the movie does know some of the 'history' surrounding Countess Bathory, and the usage of a video game I feel is fun". She's a favourite historical character of mine, so while the movie may be bad, I do enjoy it. Thanks for a great episode, guys!
Okay so this movie was one of the first horror movies i ever watched…It had such a special place in my life however i can also attest that it sucks. Still love it though. And also love you guys 🖤
Okay, let me explain it to you. If you stop playing the game the spirit takes over and controls your character's actions to make it easier to kill you. That's how Phineas (although he was about to die when he shut off the game (he said so himself) so the spirit didn't really have to control his character but she did take over the game) and October died (and the cop in the PG-13 version). Now whoever is deleting every other review I post stop doing that!
I'm genuinely not trying to be rude but I don't think they care. They clearly don't like the movie. Also, comments just tend to vanish these days. Happens to me all the time, regardless of what I've typed.
I'm guessing the spirit gets impatient if players stop playing. Not only that, but she obviously not stupid and/or guilible to fall for a diversion tatic of one continues the game while the other victims does something else, because Sweets had hope by playing the game he can buy Hutch and Abigail time but the spirit went after Abigail even when Sweets was playing. And it wasn't until Abigail was saved the spirit then tried to kill Sweets as he was playing
I do agree somethings are so mixed up they don't make sense. Like the body of Elizabeth Bathory. If that spirit was suppose to be THE Elizabeth Bathory (the countess was a real person and she was a serial killer (although she predated HH Holmes and Jack the Ripper by several hundred years so she wouldn't have the title in her lifetime). She was on the very first episode of season one of Deadly Women). She was in the very first episode of the first , her body and home should be in Hungary (in her time it was actually Austria-Hungary but the location is in what is now part of Hungary). I never been to Hungary but I don't think any of the scenes takes place in Hungary or anywhere in Europe. Not even the plantation.
And yes, Bathory's victims were young girls many of which started as young girls that were already working for her but when she killed all of them she started 'hiring' girls from towns around her home which led to her capture, yes she drank their blood in belief it restores her beauty, and yes when she was finally caught and convicted she was lock up in the top of her tower for the remainder of her life. Amazing how accurate the backstory of ghost is to the actual Elizabeth Bathory since movie producers often make changes to better fit their movie.
Also if you have a problem with how Bathory undressed herself to bathe in Abigail's blood as she drink it, word of advice: beware of Hostel Part 2. It has a similar scene but with a bathtub with scented candles around it and the victim hanging over the tub, the killer was alive and had a scythe instead of being a ghost with sheers.
Oh hey! Like the Amityville Horror! Loved that movie as a kid, but now when I watch it it’s one of those guilty pleasures simply because it was my first horror movie haha!
Hayden Panatierre and Frankie Muniz sold me on this movie back in the day. I remember really liking it but now I kind of want to rewatch it and see if I still enjoy it or not. Either way, thanks for the excellent podcast. Happy (late) Birthday James!
Please cover Darkness Falls! I’m sorry, but I love when you guys cover bad horror movies. I saw the unrated cut when it came out on like HBO or something because it was about video games and it made absolutely no sense. The worst part is that it came out the same year as Silent Hill’s adaptation, which was a video game movie I actually enjoyed. Happy belated birthday James and thanks to you both for another awesome podcast.
Loomis was a game tester, he brought the game home and shared it with his roomates. They quit playing and he kept going, they had sex in the meantime - he dies/calls hutch and goes to tell them he saw their bodies in game, and walks in on them getting busy. They say they stopped playing hours ago - more than likely dropped controllers afk to fuck. He leaves and goes to the kitchen, sketchy stuff starts happening and he runs upstairs to his roommates to find them all dead - is pushed from the top floor and hung from the chandelier. Funeral is where Hutch gets the game and the rest of the cast comes over to try it out. EDIT: Roommate's only died because they went AFK and got murdered in game while having sex then died same in real life. Later people stop playing but the witch lady had gained too much power from 6-7 of them stating the spell at the beginning of the game and starts fucking them over.
Happy belated birthday James! This podcast episode made me laugh so hard. I saw this movie in theaters because I wasn’t old enough to get into R rated movies alone yet 😂 - it was just as cliche and niche as I remember.
So I doubt this comment will get seen, but the pig mask during the sex scene is actually a reference to the character Piggsy in Manhunt. At least I'm 95% sure that's the case. It was one of the most controversial games at the time and a hit with gamers, so considering the context it feels too specific not to be.
This is absolutely one of my favorite terrible horror movies! I love it so much! I've been waiting so long for y'all to cover this! This movie actually really got me into the ACTUAL story of Elizabeth Bathory back in high school~
For James and Chelsea, I'm not sure if anyone has answered this yet, but at the beginning the character of Loomis has a throwaway line that you may missed where the roommate and girlfriend did play the game beforehand and he had found their corpses in game. Glad to catch the new episode! Love you two!
So this was the movie I saw in those years, I never could figure out what was its name. I remembered mostly the roses and the game aspect, I thought it was about a vampire game haha. Thanks again, your podcasts are gold! Greetings from Argentina!
The "roommates" did play the game. In the PG cut, the roommate says they played it hours ago. No clue why they cut that line out in the Unrated version.
I'm honestly wondering what unrated cut they were watching. The only version of this movie i ever had was the unrated cut (at that time i was big into a whole "unrated or nothing" mentality) and i remember that line being in there.
I really liked this movie when it came out because i was younger and thought “oh man i can brave a horror movie!” So even though it’s not a great film I’m nostalgic for it.
14:15 in the video He said he saw their bodies in the game when he walked in, then they say they hadn't played in hours than he comes back and finds them dead like an the game.
I can’t believe you both don’t like this movie I thought it was awesome and I loved it and own it. I thought it had an awesome plot great visuals and lines and kills. Love you both! 🎮💻🔪❤️
No, no, no, Hutch is not a lawyer. Professionally he's a file clerk or something like that, but in secretly he's his boss gaming advisor giving advice about video games. Boss basically even said so (behind closed doors in his office) that he hired Hutch for gaming advice as he said 'I hired you for one reason' then goes into the video game Silent Hill 4.
I absolutely loved this movie as a kid and If I remember correctly I had the DVD that had a special feature where you make your own video game character and I remember being too scared to do it because I thought I was going to die LOL
Wow I completely forgot about this movie but I LOVED it when I was younger haha. The final act when they have to work together in-game and in real life was the coolest thing to me
Oh my god I remember this movie! I was just thinking about it a while back! Jesus I didn’t know what it was called tho Love y’all for reminding me of this… amazing…. movie
As a gamer and someone who genuinely loved this movie for its time and still do, I do appreciate a point of view from those willing to call out its ridiculousness. I think i actually love it more now lol. We all have those guilty pleasure movies
Keep in mind- it was made in 2006. For 2006, it was pretty successful. In the light of 2022, it definitely lacks now but I guess my love for it comes from the nostalgia of screaming in theaters with my friends when I was 16 😂
I watched this movie in the middle of the night when it randomly aired on Fox. My friend and I were texting as we were watching because we were both into video games. I haven't seen it since but it stuck in my head. This just makes me wanna rewatch it with my husband who's never seen it.
Milo Ventimiglia’s character mentions that he found his roommates characters in the game so that’s the only thing that really explains that they played but it is in there.
I can't decide what's better: James and Chelsea's delight when they find genuinely good and well-made movies or their glee when they find absolutely dog shit trash movies. I love both so much.
I adored Stay Alive as a kid. The idea that how you die in the game is how you die in real life is so cool to me. And I love Elizabeth Bathory lore. I haven't see it in a while, but I don't remember it being bad lol
This movie holds a special place in my heart because they name dropped Fatal Frame in the first five minutes which is my favorite game series of all time.
I personally love this movie, but I think it's because I was a gamer and still am, and it's super nostalgic. I would say it's a good movie and it's one that I've rewatched but it's not horrible. It's a good middle ground movie. They also never talked about how the ghosts/countess and the kids from the video game appeared in real life, plus the carriage. So yeah it wasn't surprising that Skim I think his name was, was able to magically unlock the mansion doors and give Hutch the crowbar from the game. How do you think the carriage got there????
I'm so happy you're covering this movie! I personally LOVE this movie! One of the first horror films I saw when I was a kid, I walked in my sister's room and she was watching it and I fell in love!!! I'm only 24 right now but I've seen literally everything there is and this is in my top 5 I love the plot, that's my main aspect I look for in movies. If the plot intrigues me but the graphics isn't that good then I'm ok you know. Love you guys! been subscribed for almost 3 years now! Keep being awesome ❤️
I'm not going to say this movie is good, but it has a special place in my heart. It was one of the first "grown-up" horror movies I watched when I was about 10, sneaking it in when I was in the TV den and supposed to be watching more age-appropriate content. I'll always remember it, because during the scene where things get really dark for the characters, the power went off in my house, so I was suddenly in pitch black. Went running straight to my dad lmao.
October isn't his girlfriend. They are just very close, open friends. The friendships between the characters are one of the main reasons why I love this movie so much.
I really liked this movie despite it being really silly and in no way related to gaming culture outside of the stereotypes 🤣 Just stupid fun, which I really miss these days. Great video!
The couple that died with Loomis did play the game. They send that they had finished a few hours before that sex scene. And Abigail was friends with the girlfriend.
I’m so glad there’s some people who remember it, Stay Alive was one of my first horror movies that really stuck with me. It’s no masterpiece but every movie has their fans.
Same! I absolutely loved this movie at 13
childhood movie on god !
All of you guys are speaking facts!
Fr I saw this at a video rental store and I decided to get it when I was 09 in 2009
From what I remember, Loomis found his roommates bodies in game and came to their room to tell them, they mentioned they stopped playing hours ago.
Also Finn had lied when he said he stopped playing, he died in game and went for drive to blow off steam.
Yep. Watching it now on tubi and the pig man says they have not played in hours.
This movie is a guilty pleasure of mine. I'm so happy to see yall cover it. Ohh and HAPPYYYY BIRTHDAYYYYY JAMES 🎂🎂🎂
Don't be guilty its fun
@@Undeadaccount agreed
Be me. Still waiting on UKM: Ultimate Killing Machine
Also, HAPPY BIRTHDAY JAMES!
Absolutely love this movie as a kid and still enjoy it now. I can recognize it as a meh movie but its fun.
Okay as someone who loves this movie I just had to come here and say: they never state clearly I don’t think that October is Hutches girlfriend- I always got that she and Phin were really good friends of his from childhood, and she’s almost like an older sister/mother figure to Hutch
Edit: the official wiki does state clearly October and Phineas are good friends of Hutches- this was driving me crazy during the review but it’s an honest mistake, just thought you guys should know!
Omg yes cuz I never ever thought hutch and October were together ever!!
@@Xxbaesiaa same! I watch this movie like twice a year since I first saw it when I was 9, and I’ve never thought that lol. I guess because October reminds me so much of my older sister as well XD
I had this exact thought!
also the reason the game starts playing itself for them is because one of them finds the evil witches mirrow and turns it over to use the back after the glass smashes.
I also remember the cops death but im pretty sure i watched the regular theatrical copy
Ok. I'm glad it wasn't just me that for whatever reason was really being bothered by this during the podcast lol. Cus I definitely had the same like "brother/sister" vibe and not dating vibe from Hutch and October. So thank you for confirming I wasn't the only one haha
I remember being able to customize your character on the menu to this movie, the nostalgia😭❤️
i just did that the other day! it’s so cool.
Yes!! the lil dvd game they included was so cute and really hooked 10 yr old me 😭
Hwhat!!!!?
@@tatsukagemarou the DVD menu had a lil special feature section where you were gonna "play" the game and it let you create a lil avatar using like head/torso/legs options!
That's so fun!!
chelsea: the podcast has been too good, gotta trash it a bit
everyone: we love the trash
What are we if not trash pandas!
I unironically love this movie. I saw it in theaters when i was around 8 or 9 and I loved Frankie Muniez in it (I was a big Malcolm in the Middle fan). it was genuinely scary and i remember being reallt impressed with the effects. I rewatched it recently and enjoyed it just as much while being able to turn a critical eye to all the stuff i missed as a kid or that didnt hold up, but Frankie's character getting locked out of the van while the game plays itself, yelling "BITCH THAT’S CHEATING" has stuck in my head and I'll just randomly say it out loud sometimes
Yes same! I say that too cuz it was so funny!
I wasn't lucky enough to see it in theaters but I grew up watching it and loving it. I always thought it was funny like the later chucky films. While I never watched Malcolm in the middle I always loved Agent Cody Banks and called/still call Munez that whenever I see him in something 🤣
I do too!!
The game can unpause itself, that's why they keep dying even after they stop playing, and this is why Jimmi Simpson's character dies even though he paused it. They later see that the game is unpaused when they look at his computer. Although some of this may have been cut from the unrated version.
Edit: Also, the cop dies in both versions, I watched the theatrical cut
yeah. the cop still goes to the game store but when he's strapped to the drivers seat, the cut happens and you see the blood.
I love Dead Meat but they really tuned out on this watch if they didn't catch the game playing without the players anyway
@@TaoStars309 To be fair to James and Chelsea, this movie to some is a total snoozefest. Including me.
I watched it before watching this episode and I didn't notice that either cause I was so bored.
@@TaoStars309 but I swear I’ve seen a version where you actually see that whole death happen with out it just cutting to the blood splattering?
If I’m not mistaking. Or unless that is the unrated version?
@@Opiumloner yeah the unrated one is where the head rips apart. it cuts to the blood splatter like a half second later but it does exist
17:30 quick correction. in the movie they were talking about Silent Hill 4 not RE4, and the scene got me mad cause there's no Hyperblaster in that game and the final boss is not a girl. they mixed up the info from the first SH. great podcast
i rewatched this movie a couple months ago and that part pissed me off so much bc wow! did no one know anything on set? 😭 i was like they're really just saying stuff what the hell
I love the Silent Hill games, and I didn't know that the first game had a hyperblaster. I literally thought "hyperblaster" was just generic BS video game vocabulary that they threw in to sound like they knew what they were talking about lmao
Beat me to it 😂
Yeah, that scene still irks me since the hyper blaster and no ammo trick is Silent Hill 1, not 4, and also unless he had a justifier, the only way to get the hyper blaster is to get the UFO ending, which requires you to have beaten the game once before. So even if he was on the right system and game, it wouldn’t make sense for him to have the hyper blaster and still need help beating the final boss.
And it irks me because if they had put some effort in, they could have used SH4 but instead made it about using the candle to cure Eileen so you have more time during the final boss. If you’re gonna pander you gamers are least get it right, lol
Regarding the two "roommates" who were killed, there actually ARE a couple of lines in that sex scene that explain it.
Loomis: "I found you guys in the game...you got it good."
Guy: "We haven't played for hours."
So they DID actually play and die.
Edit: Also, the game that Loomis and his boss talk about wasn't Resident Evil 4, but actually Silent Hill 4. I remember this weird, specific detail because I remember how much it bothered me that they were obviously not describing Silent Hill 4 lol
And I actually couldn't remember how Abigail knew the other characters, so I had to Google it. Apparently, she was close with Loomis, and grew up with the female roommate who was killed in the opening scene. There's dialogue that mentions this in the movie.
As much as I like this movie, I'm starting to realize that it has a problem with handwaving away explanations for things. It quickly mentions things in a forgettable way.
Am I the only person who didn't clock October as Hutch's girlfriend?
I thought they were all just a group of friends.
@@AtomicBananaPress you definitely weren’t! I thought they were all friends. I had no idea this movie had a weird love triangle thing going on.
@@AtomicBananaPress I never thought she was his girlfriend. I just took October and Phineus as best friends to Hutch. But its been a while.
Yeah, there is a lot of the plot explained in this but... it's just all so forgettable that people think that there are more plot holes in this than there actually are.
@@tinkerer3399 One thing that SERIOUSLY had me confused the first time I watched it was Swink's "death". I noticed that he was surrounded by roses, so I thought to myself "oh, he's gonna be fine then." And then, cut to his computer screen and his character is dead. From that point up until they reveal Swink is actually still alive, I was genuinely irritated by the fact that he died. Because, given the setup with the roses, his death didn't make sense.
Come to find out, of course, he didn't actually die thanks presumably to those roses. But that's where we get into something that irritates me about the movie to this day; his character in the game DID die. The roses saved the real Swink in that moment, but his character STILL died. So based on the previously established rules, he should've gotten killed later, but he never did.
And that's another thing! The movie ALSO established that you could do things in the game, and it would affect the real world, such as materializing the crowbar and unlocking the door. So if this is true, how did Swink's game character die? If the real Swink was surrounded by roses, that should've meant there were roses in the game too, which would've saved his game character's life.
I really like this movie, but there are certain things about it that I have to admit feel like such a mess lol
Even though "Stay Alive" wasn't a good horror movie, I'm glad James and Chelsea are covering it on the podcast.
As someone living in Louisiana, it felt refreshing being able to go to each location in this movie. This movie was an odd one but I think I mainly like because of the lack of movies that take place in my home state. Love the podcast!
As for the roommate and his gf in the beginning: lumis finds their bodies in the game and when he tells them about it they say that they stopped playing a while ago and were alive, hinting at the game keeps playing no matter what
I’ve loved this movie for so many years. I never realized how bad it was when i was younger, but as an adult i can see how truly awful it is. I still have a soft spot for it in my heart, and will always think of it fondly no matter what.
Right? I knoow it’s dumb but it’s fun
Yes please Darkness Falls! That movie traumatized me of the dark throughout my entire childhood. Would love to revisit it with you two’s commentary!
Same.
14:05 when he's playing the game, he sees the bodies of his friends' characters before he dies. When he mentions it after catching his friends in bed, his housemate says, "we haven't played for hours", which means they did play, but stopped a long time ago so the game probably took over and killed them on its own.
I think to make sure the characters can't pull the 'just don't play' BS, they had it that the game takes over and connects the characters to their game avatars so what they do in real life is what they're doing in the game. Still plays along with the idea that the players become connected to the game, just that the curse has a stronger effect over time.
49:30 the cop does show up again in the theatrical version, he goes to a game store to ask about Stay Alive, when he's back in his car, he sees the Countess in the rear view mirror and it cuts away to outside his car when he dies (blood splatter on the window).
Yeah I think it's because they only watched the directors cut and not the theatrical release movie that they're confused about lots of scenes. I personally loved watching this and this movie is why I never ever ever play these types of games in real life. They scare the shit out of me lol
i recently rewatched this movie for the podcast and watching you guys talk about it, i didn’t realize how protective i am of this stupid movie 😂😂 AND IM NOT EVEN A GAMER 😂
ITS A GREAT MOVIE!! 🤣
i’ve been HOPING you guys would cover this movie i love it
same
I'm that guy that owns the original movie poster, has the soundtrack and both versions of the film lol I'm actually doing a breakdown video soon of this movie as a fan of survival horror games. Is it a good movie.NOPE. But it was fun and ambitious idea for a movie, plus the Commentary on the unrated dvd was hilarious!
Abigail and October literally had the same deaths/near deaths, Both girls were chained by their ankles and hung upside down from the ceiling as Báthory either slits their throat or eats their blood. The only real difference is October dies but Abigail survives
I want a kill count for stay alive lol
I do too! If they can make one for freaking Thanksgiving 3 then they can make one for us gamers.
Same
Rephrase: I want deadmeat to do a kill count lol
we need it james
Same
K so I know this episode is a year old but I started bingeing the podcasts and this one is absolutely hilarious… especially due toJames’ absolute fury at all the nonsensical plot shit and how incomprehensible it is. James and Chelsea, love your channel, love your content, love your podcast!!! Thank you for all you give us with Dead Meat 🤘🏼❤️
The Fatal Frame games are sooo good! The best ones to play with friends in a dark room at night. Genuinely scary!
Me: ooh a new podcast episode! And it’s about one of my favorite horror movies. Yeah it’s got some quirks but I’m not guilty for liking it.
Chelsea: we need to trash up the channel.
Me: oh 🙂
Hahaha chin up though, I loved it in a legitimate way and know a lot of others did too; it's just different perspective is all. Nobody is really right or wrong in art, a lot of important points were missed in the podcast but the overhandling by Disney made the overall poorness of the movie. I imagine if it was handled like a true horror film from start to end it would have been a really great movie
I love that you gave a shoutout to Cecil at GoodBadFlicks. I've been watching his videos for more than a decade, and his channel deserves a lot of subs.
Much love to James and Chelsea.
Also, I never got the feeling that hutch & October were an item. Simply good friends.
This made me so nostalgic for the early/mid 2000’s gaming culture
I can see why people hate Stay Alive. I genuinely like it. I like the premise behind it. It's based on a true horror story. But this movie specifically is tailered for a certain demographic. It's not for everyone.
Eh, wasn't really good horror movie
@@uzielyanez5975 because you think so, or because they think so?
@@m4yh3mx95 I know So
@Potter-jack O'Brien I Didn't
Wait what do you mean "based on a true horror story," what?
Edit: I'm now aware they're referring to Elizabeth Bathory. I kinda forgot about that angle of the movie and was more confused as to whether there'd been a real-world case of deaths tied to a video game.
I love the energy this episode. James’ break from the kill count seems to have really taken a load off his shoulders!
The two room mates were playing the game as loomis informs them “your characters got it bad” to where the roommate responds we haven’t been playing for hours
I live for this movie, one of the first horror movies I ever fell in love with. I'm so glad more people in the world know about it.
I have been waiting for YEARS for this movie to get covered (my favorite horror movie) that when I saw the thumb nail I audible gasped out loud!
I love stay alive, it scare me so much when I was a kid and I always rewatch it. This is one of my favorite horror movies I’ve ever seen
They was cursed the moment all the character's Read Elizabeth's Prayer Out of her Diary to start the Game 📃 🎮
Right? Haven't they watched Evil Dead before? You NEVER just read shit out loud. Ever.
Which is why it's ridiculous because the video game was unnecessary. Even more unnecessary when you think about how soon in the movie they stop playing it. It's like they included the gaming aspect as an excuse for shitty CGI characters
😂😂 i agree , had this movie came out in the 2010s wv better CGI it probably would have looked better ❤😂 , i just feel like this movie was the laziest portrayal of the Elizabeth Bathory *Legend* 💔😡
@@invaderhemp
I remember this was one of the few horror movies I watched as a kid that got my foot into horror other than The Shining and Jeepers Creepers. While it is a bad horror movie now as an adult, it’s still slightly my guilty pleasure because of the cast and I liked the concept. Loved hearing your thoughts and opinions on the movie, such a funny podcast!
Fun fact: the magazine advertising Stay Alive at the end of the movie, the front cover was actually covering gears of war.
Epic gave away the copies used in the movie to subscribers of the magazine.
i love this movie. definitely because of nostalgia 💀
Love Chelsea even more after hearing her gamer lore
I have been waiting on this episode; from before I watched this movie, I had some knowledge of the Countess, the main antagonist, and so watching this movie, I was like "okay, the movie does know some of the 'history' surrounding Countess Bathory, and the usage of a video game I feel is fun". She's a favourite historical character of mine, so while the movie may be bad, I do enjoy it.
Thanks for a great episode, guys!
Okay so this movie was one of the first horror movies i ever watched…It had such a special place in my life however i can also attest that it sucks.
Still love it though. And also love you guys 🖤
37:16 James' excitement to discuss the poop scene is so funny to me.
Okay, let me explain it to you. If you stop playing the game the spirit takes over and controls your character's actions to make it easier to kill you. That's how Phineas (although he was about to die when he shut off the game (he said so himself) so the spirit didn't really have to control his character but she did take over the game) and October died (and the cop in the PG-13 version). Now whoever is deleting every other review I post stop doing that!
I'm genuinely not trying to be rude but I don't think they care. They clearly don't like the movie. Also, comments just tend to vanish these days. Happens to me all the time, regardless of what I've typed.
I'm guessing the spirit gets impatient if players stop playing. Not only that, but she obviously not stupid and/or guilible to fall for a diversion tatic of one continues the game while the other victims does something else, because Sweets had hope by playing the game he can buy Hutch and Abigail time but the spirit went after Abigail even when Sweets was playing. And it wasn't until Abigail was saved the spirit then tried to kill Sweets as he was playing
I do agree somethings are so mixed up they don't make sense. Like the body of Elizabeth Bathory. If that spirit was suppose to be THE Elizabeth Bathory (the countess was a real person and she was a serial killer (although she predated HH Holmes and Jack the Ripper by several hundred years so she wouldn't have the title in her lifetime). She was on the very first episode of season one of Deadly Women). She was in the very first episode of the first , her body and home should be in Hungary (in her time it was actually Austria-Hungary but the location is in what is now part of Hungary). I never been to Hungary but I don't think any of the scenes takes place in Hungary or anywhere in Europe. Not even the plantation.
And yes, Bathory's victims were young girls many of which started as young girls that were already working for her but when she killed all of them she started 'hiring' girls from towns around her home which led to her capture, yes she drank their blood in belief it restores her beauty, and yes when she was finally caught and convicted she was lock up in the top of her tower for the remainder of her life. Amazing how accurate the backstory of ghost is to the actual Elizabeth Bathory since movie producers often make changes to better fit their movie.
Also if you have a problem with how Bathory undressed herself to bathe in Abigail's blood as she drink it, word of advice: beware of Hostel Part 2. It has a similar scene but with a bathtub with scented candles around it and the victim hanging over the tub, the killer was alive and had a scythe instead of being a ghost with sheers.
A moment of silence for actor Fred Ward who passed away recently. May he rest in peace.
Aw, one of that nostalgic early-mid 2000s horror movies you love when you're younger but as time pass you'll see it's a so bad it's good horror flick
Oh hey! Like the Amityville Horror! Loved that movie as a kid, but now when I watch it it’s one of those guilty pleasures simply because it was my first horror movie haha!
Hayden Panatierre and Frankie Muniz sold me on this movie back in the day. I remember really liking it but now I kind of want to rewatch it and see if I still enjoy it or not. Either way, thanks for the excellent podcast. Happy (late) Birthday James!
Hayden's not in this movie 🙂
@@jimmybrown4205 James and Chelsea said her name and I guess I got confused lol. I really do need to rewatch this movie. My bad.
@@rdp16rulez Oh no, I blame James and Chelsea! Lol, it's all good 🙂
I actually enjoyed Stay Alive. Even with all it's campiness. I thought it was intentionally more of a schlocky parody than genuinely frightening.
Please cover Darkness Falls! I’m sorry, but I love when you guys cover bad horror movies. I saw the unrated cut when it came out on like HBO or something because it was about video games and it made absolutely no sense. The worst part is that it came out the same year as Silent Hill’s adaptation, which was a video game movie I actually enjoyed. Happy belated birthday James and thanks to you both for another awesome podcast.
Loomis was a game tester, he brought the game home and shared it with his roomates. They quit playing and he kept going, they had sex in the meantime - he dies/calls hutch and goes to tell them he saw their bodies in game, and walks in on them getting busy. They say they stopped playing hours ago - more than likely dropped controllers afk to fuck. He leaves and goes to the kitchen, sketchy stuff starts happening and he runs upstairs to his roommates to find them all dead - is pushed from the top floor and hung from the chandelier. Funeral is where Hutch gets the game and the rest of the cast comes over to try it out. EDIT: Roommate's only died because they went AFK and got murdered in game while having sex then died same in real life. Later people stop playing but the witch lady had gained too much power from 6-7 of them stating the spell at the beginning of the game and starts fucking them over.
I love that Graessle is part of the pod now. MORE PLS
Now I have that Bee Gees song stuck in my head! Thanks!
Happy belated birthday James! This podcast episode made me laugh so hard. I saw this movie in theaters because I wasn’t old enough to get into R rated movies alone yet 😂 - it was just as cliche and niche as I remember.
So I doubt this comment will get seen, but the pig mask during the sex scene is actually a reference to the character Piggsy in Manhunt. At least I'm 95% sure that's the case. It was one of the most controversial games at the time and a hit with gamers, so considering the context it feels too specific not to be.
This is absolutely one of my favorite terrible horror movies! I love it so much! I've been waiting so long for y'all to cover this! This movie actually really got me into the ACTUAL story of Elizabeth Bathory back in high school~
One of my fave mid-00s movies. Rewatching it now is…ahhh…not how I remember it! 😂
Haha it’s a dvd I still own amongst all my Blu-ray’s but can’t help but love it idc if it’s my nostalgia haha little 8 year old me loved it haha
@@RealBlackNoir69 haha yeah 9-year-old me thought it was the shit. Just can not watch it now haha
For James and Chelsea, I'm not sure if anyone has answered this yet, but at the beginning the character of Loomis has a throwaway line that you may missed where the roommate and girlfriend did play the game beforehand and he had found their corpses in game. Glad to catch the new episode! Love you two!
So this was the movie I saw in those years, I never could figure out what was its name. I remembered mostly the roses and the game aspect, I thought it was about a vampire game haha. Thanks again, your podcasts are gold! Greetings from Argentina!
41:11 when James says “I put that code in as a little kid” and then just looks at the camera
Dead
Chelsea: there is so much dumb bullshit going on here
James: this is a pivotal scene
Love you guys you make me laugh so hard
Jimmy Simpson as Bill would have been impeccable casting 👌
The "roommates" did play the game. In the PG cut, the roommate says they played it hours ago. No clue why they cut that line out in the Unrated version.
I'm honestly wondering what unrated cut they were watching. The only version of this movie i ever had was the unrated cut (at that time i was big into a whole "unrated or nothing" mentality) and i remember that line being in there.
Stay Alive is one of my all-time favorite horror movies lol. I was unbelievably shocked when I found out that a lot of people hate it.
I know this movie is awful but I loved it when I was younger! Makes me so nostalgic! Also, more Chelsea on the Kill Count pleeeeease 👻
I second this - more Chelsea!!!
I don’t think she’s doing another one some toxic fans were being pathetic and made her uncomfortable 🫤
@@staywoke2467 what do you mean? I didn’t see anything like that?!
@@laurajames9379 i didnt either but James said in twitter because he got pissed about it. im guessing he banned them and started removing comments.
I really liked this movie when it came out because i was younger and thought “oh man i can brave a horror movie!” So even though it’s not a great film I’m nostalgic for it.
14:15 in the video
He said he saw their bodies in the game when he walked in, then they say they hadn't played in hours than he comes back and finds them dead like an the game.
Insomnia is kicking my ass so this pod is very appreciated. So glad to have more of y'all!
I can’t believe you both don’t like this movie I thought it was awesome and I loved it and own it. I thought it had an awesome plot great visuals and lines and kills. Love you both! 🎮💻🔪❤️
No, no, no, Hutch is not a lawyer. Professionally he's a file clerk or something like that, but in secretly he's his boss gaming advisor giving advice about video games. Boss basically even said so (behind closed doors in his office) that he hired Hutch for gaming advice as he said 'I hired you for one reason' then goes into the video game Silent Hill 4.
I absolutely loved this movie as a kid and If I remember correctly I had the DVD that had a special feature where you make your own video game character and I remember being too scared to do it because I thought I was going to die LOL
Wow I completely forgot about this movie but I LOVED it when I was younger haha. The final act when they have to work together in-game and in real life was the coolest thing to me
Oh my god I remember this movie! I was just thinking about it a while back! Jesus I didn’t know what it was called tho
Love y’all for reminding me of this… amazing…. movie
As a gamer and someone who genuinely loved this movie for its time and still do, I do appreciate a point of view from those willing to call out its ridiculousness. I think i actually love it more now lol. We all have those guilty pleasure movies
Keep in mind- it was made in 2006. For 2006, it was pretty successful. In the light of 2022, it definitely lacks now but I guess my love for it comes from the nostalgia of screaming in theaters with my friends when I was 16 😂
Loved watching this with my brother when it came out, we were into games of course. So it'll always hold a special place in my heart.
The most perfect couple with respect to looks and personality ever? Top tier, great people
I watched this movie in the middle of the night when it randomly aired on Fox. My friend and I were texting as we were watching because we were both into video games. I haven't seen it since but it stuck in my head. This just makes me wanna rewatch it with my husband who's never seen it.
I love this movie and was always disappointed an actual videogame never came out
lol still waiting over here
Milo Ventimiglia’s character mentions that he found his roommates characters in the game so that’s the only thing that really explains that they played but it is in there.
I can't decide what's better: James and Chelsea's delight when they find genuinely good and well-made movies or their glee when they find absolutely dog shit trash movies. I love both so much.
I adored Stay Alive as a kid. The idea that how you die in the game is how you die in real life is so cool to me. And I love Elizabeth Bathory lore. I haven't see it in a while, but I don't remember it being bad lol
I remember as a kid I thought the game looked so cool and wanted it to be real so bad minus the killing you if u die
It was still a bad horror movie though. 🤷
This movie holds a special place in my heart because they name dropped Fatal Frame in the first five minutes which is my favorite game series of all time.
This movie is Soooo underrated 😥💯💙 & it was wayy ahead of it's time ☝🏾💯
It's not underrated. It sucks.
I personally love this movie, but I think it's because I was a gamer and still am, and it's super nostalgic. I would say it's a good movie and it's one that I've rewatched but it's not horrible. It's a good middle ground movie. They also never talked about how the ghosts/countess and the kids from the video game appeared in real life, plus the carriage. So yeah it wasn't surprising that Skim I think his name was, was able to magically unlock the mansion doors and give Hutch the crowbar from the game. How do you think the carriage got there????
I'm so happy you're covering this movie! I personally LOVE this movie! One of the first horror films I saw when I was a kid, I walked in my sister's room and she was watching it and I fell in love!!! I'm only 24 right now but I've seen literally everything there is and this is in my top 5 I love the plot, that's my main aspect I look for in movies. If the plot intrigues me but the graphics isn't that good then I'm ok you know. Love you guys! been subscribed for almost 3 years now! Keep being awesome ❤️
I literally just watched it last night. I think it was a fun movie for its time
I'm a Buffalo, NY resident and it's been a rough few days to say the least. Needed this little hit of nostalgia, thank you guys ❤️❤️
Now I want someone to insert fart noises when Hutch hands Abigail the toilet paper.
I'm not going to say this movie is good, but it has a special place in my heart. It was one of the first "grown-up" horror movies I watched when I was about 10, sneaking it in when I was in the TV den and supposed to be watching more age-appropriate content.
I'll always remember it, because during the scene where things get really dark for the characters, the power went off in my house, so I was suddenly in pitch black. Went running straight to my dad lmao.
I never saw the main guy dating October. Just good friends.
Darkness Falls would be a good one! That gave me nightmares for a long time and still makes me freaked out to be in the dark.
Jimmi Simpsons character definitely listens to bloodhound gang
The level of enjoyment this two share over a hobby/profession is so inspiring.
October isn't his girlfriend. They are just very close, open friends. The friendships between the characters are one of the main reasons why I love this movie so much.
@15:06 when James says “I hate it” I laughed out loud.
I really liked this movie despite it being really silly and in no way related to gaming culture outside of the stereotypes 🤣 Just stupid fun, which I really miss these days.
Great video!
The couple that died with Loomis did play the game. They send that they had finished a few hours before that sex scene. And Abigail was friends with the girlfriend.
Holy shit what a throwback! I gotta literally grab popcorn for this one
as a middle schooler at the time, the incomprehensibility of this movie went right over my head; I was there for Frankie.
Much appreciation for Gresel (sp?) and his Gilmore Girls knowledge 💜😀
I don’t know why this podcast is so funny to me. I keep going back to watch it. Love it so much.