As a "horse person" I want to mention some things I noticed. It's not just that OJ works hard and has responsibilities. He genuinely cares for his charges. You can see this when he says, "I have mouths to feed", when talking about needing to go back after the escape into town. That is something you usually hear about kids, not creatures. You can also see it on the farm (and someone on this film KNEW real horse farms). We see him feeding, watering the arena (keeps the dust down so the horses working, or playing as they were in that scene, don't have to breath so much dust), and genuinely concerned about why the horse is being weird in the pasture. Em would have stayed in the house, OJ had to find out what was bothering the animal. You also see him working with Lucky before the big ride, both with the traditional plastic bags and with the waving figure, helping the horse to understand that these things blowing around will not hurt him. In the commercial shoot he is totally focused on the horse and what it needs, "Don't get behind him". The horses are his partners and his responsibility, not just tool for TV ratings, fame, or feeding to an alien.
He doesn't seem to be upset when his horses die though? That part didn't make sense to me although overall I really liked the film. He didn't seem to have much of an emotional response to the horses, except when he goes to rescue Lucky
@@chrisytfc879 I think he did though, even when his father dies, we don’t see him grieve because when you’re working constantly, trying to survive, you may not have time to grieve, that doesn’t mean he doesn’t grieve or lacks empathy it means OJ will always have to keep moving, keep surviving. Edit: bad spelling lol
You're totally right -- he really cares about them. When he went out to check on Ghost in the arena that night, we get a shot of him asking "You good?" just as seriously as he did to his sister and dad.
I think the shoe thing even proves the movie’s point a little. People are so fixated on something strange that it’s distracting them from the horrific violence happening on the same sound stage.
Not surprised that Logan Paul, the same man who made a huge spectacle of a dead body online wouldn't get a movie that talks about exploitation of moments that shouldn't be exploited.
You’d be surprised at how impressionable him and his family/friends/fans are, and just how much of a horrible influence no matter the amount of apology videos can change that
or maybe he does get it and felt uncomfortable with the realization and is in denial... either way, that was an embarrassing thread for him to write lmao
Jupe was spared by the Gordy chimp because of the VEIL that was covering his eyes. In the shot before everyone gets sucked into JJ, the mauled actress' VEIL covers her eyes, but the moment the wind blows it up and we see her face, looking up into JJ, she's a goner. I just realized that and it's a neat parallel
The abduction scene blew my mind and I was absolutely shook. I was expecting the inside of JJ to be a ship, some sort of technological lair, but when the inside was like a massive umbrella/balloon-esque monster I was blown away. I felt completely lost and truly didn’t know what was going to happen next. This fear of the unknown was terrifying in this movie.
There's a scene in the beginning of the movie where you're seeing inside some rectangular chamber that is supposed to be an old fashioned camera (with the footage of the jockey) and it's made to look like the creature's digestive tract. The theming and motifs in the movie are out of control, they're so fucking good.
that scene made my skin crawl, i ended up covering my ears because the screams that echoed from the people made me panic and so did the digestion scene that was horrific and almost made me nauseous
The sound of Gordy's anxious breathing, before he snapped, broke my heart. The signs were all there that they were mistreating this animal, and they ignored it in the name of a damn sitcom.
I love that “Jean Jacket” took the form of things we’re accustomed to seeing in the sky. It hides behind clouds, it looks like a flying saucer, and when it expands it starts to look like a kite or hot air balloon. True form of being a predator in the wild. Blending in with the environment.
what? anyone who sees that in the sky, other than the braindead characters in the movie, would freak out. no one is like "oh look honey, another flying saucer we're so used to seeing"
@@RayCharound Kadeem isn’t saying that seeing a flying saucer is a normal occurrence, but rather it’s smart that Jean Jacket is taking the form of things we normally associate with being in the sky. Kadeem’s comment actually made me consider what if Jean Jacket has seen UFO’s and took on that form to mimic them - an adaptation. A cool thought, but personally I left thinking the intention was for us to rethink UFOs sightings entirely.
@@RayCharound I’m not saying adaptations make animals geniuses, it’s just mimicry. Many animals adapt to blend in with their surroundings or to look like something they’re not. They also often get fooled by other animals. Their intelligence isn’t all or nothing
I loved when Angel is setting up the cameras to be covered before the storm and he says something like "Just tarpin' up to be safe". I only caught that on my second watch and I almost gasped out loud. So so so good.
@@DeadMeat Angel wraps himself in the tarp later (with the barbed wire fence) and it saves him from being eaten by Jean Jacket. He tarps himself up to be safe!
The brilliance of the chimp stuff is that it is horror with no villain. Yeah the chimp is the aggressor.... but not a villain or a bad guy. It's a circumstance that puts something in a place it shouldn't be.
True. It also helps the horror of the situation that while Gordy is extremely scary, you can’t properly direct blame towards him because it’s not really his fault. As you said, he not the villain. Very smart filmmaking on Jordan Peele’s part.
People also have to understand, it's STILL a wild animal. Captivity or not, instincts are still that of a wild animal and it can't be held for its survival skills kicking in when it gets scared.
I like to think that Jupe definitely knows that the horse statue is his, but he just lets it slide considering he’s been feeding their old horses to a fucking alien creature for six months and they’re never gonna get them back. Like “yeah… they can just keep it”
I'd like to think he lets it slide because if the cops or another 3rd party comes in, they'll notice the giant unmoving cloud and fuck everything up. Also was jupe planning in killing them with the invite?
To be fair to Jupe he doesn't know the horses are getting eaten. He thinks Jean Jacket is a spaceship and maybe he can ask "the Viewers" to return the horses someday.
I interpret Ant’s “finale” as him going out finally getting the impossible shot. He went there to get the impossible shot, and he was able to film the ship, meaning it wasn’t impossible. The true impossible shot is something that could never be captured or even seen.
I believe he got sucked up intentionally as he knew even if he died then the camera would get spewed back out with its footage as the best possible proof. Unfortunately since the kinda blew the alien up the camera along with the footage was also lost
I didn't even think of that since no one really knows what exactly happens once people gets captured. Ig he learned in the end but the film was destroyed so RIP
@@carktheshark I think they defiantly worked out what happens when you get captured, they'd worked out that it was an animal and also saw it rain blood.
But he also says "we don't deserve the impossible." Really confusing scene, mostly because his character is underdeveloped so we can't say for sure why he committed suicide.
The scene of the people at the round up being sucked up and screaming in the claustrophobic throat of the beast was so horrifying I couldn't look away and actually cried bc it made me sick to see the humans like that and I think it'll always stick with me. Jordan really blew me away with this one. The design of the beast, the screams echoing from it, the inability to reason with it... Amazing. The cast was rad, and that shot of the sister doing the Akira slide was sooooo good.
The alien spitting out the inedible parts made me think of snakes when they eat eggs (we also see a snake fighting a tiger in the movie). They swallow them whole, break them in their bodies, and then spit out the shell. It’s an excellent parallel to all the stories of studios wringing out everything of value out of talented people and then discarding them once their fame wanes or they can’t do it any more.
Have you ever seen the video of the Manta-Ray ‘spawnkilling’ a crab? Basically a crab mid-moulting, and you can see he is exactly like JJ he just sucks in the crab like a vacuum, and then blows real hard with most the shell bits and pushes it into the sand. Very cool visual that looks so surprisingly similar even with that flat disc underside and one hole
Something that got pointed out to me that I cannot get out of my head is: There's a poster of Nope showing Steven Yuen's Jupe looking up to the sky. In that poster, apparently Jupe isn't wearing a hat. It's Jean-Jacket.
Kaluuya deserves a lot of credit for being so great around the horses, he really seems like a legitimate handler and must have put in a ton of work to be that comfortable with the animals.
The scene where all of the people got abducted and are inside Jean Jacket chilled me to my core. The screams, the visuals, even just the idea of it made me want to throw up out of anxiety… I LOVED IT!!!!!
@@grape9926 me too. I honestly hadn’t felt like that since War of the Worlds. I was about 10 and the scene where they extracted the blood from people to spray it everywhere made me throw up… horror movies rarely scare me… alien horror when done right FUCKS ME UP!!!
I think the shoe sticking out WAS it's point, and Peele achieved his goal by having it stick in the viewers mind. In the midst of this traumatic incident, something weird just stuck out and pulled focus to help Jupe dissociate from the horror in front of him, and it did the same for us watching.
(SPOILERS) Nope is the third movie to ever make me laugh out loud in a theatre. Kaluuya just saying “Nope” as he saw the aliens in the stables broke me.
I love that it's the creepiest scene in the movie, and its one big jokey misdirect and it precedes the most horrifying scene in the movie which is when JJ eats Jupe, his family and his audience.
SNL absolutely would have done a skit about Gordy. They did a skit about the Heaven's Gate mass suicide the week that it happened. They even showed footage of the bodies.
My dad mentioned that! He said that no one realized that something horrible happened because everyone thought it was just a joke. It wasn't until a day or so later that everyone realized what had actually happened
I don’t know if many people realized this, but the alien costumes Jupe’s kids wear are a combination of the Gordy chimp actor for the body and the Panavison cameras for the faces, tying into the alien being called “The Viewers.”
I didn't realize until I saw a comparison pic on Twitter, but I still somehow wasn't surprised, like it had registered subconsciously for me and I just didn't actively put the pieces together. I think that speaks incredibly highly to Peele's visual cues because I understood that they were linked without even actively realizing it.
Theres also the theory how the faces of the alien suits was based on the actress that got her face ruined by gordy and how it ties in to how Jupe truly didnt see nor cared on what was wrong bout the inccident and how he saw his co-star friend's traumatizing moment as a opportunity for the design of the alien mascot suits. She even looked like she was very uncomfortable and didnt wanna be there when she was introduced to the crowd. Tho granted, i like the panavision camera idea more since it fits more and the fact the the suits lacked the horrid mouth disfigurement that she had (prolly would be too on the nose/not marketable for jupes)
@@shinobu8789 I have also seen that theory, but I don’t think Jupe nor Jordan Peele would make it look like the actress because it might seem like he was making fun of her, y’know?
@@shinobu8789 Really? I got the opposite vibe from her. It seemed like he was very compassionate towards her and that she was excited to be involved and happily waving to the crowd. I’d definitely be open to the design of the alien faces resembling her but I do feel like the appeal of Jupe is partially that he IS still compassionate for others while also being a self-centered showman.
@@charlottedawn2482 This. To me, the costumes and the toys like chimps. They look nothing like her. I don't think he would invite his "first crush" to friends and family day of his new show if he made the aliens look like her. As you said, she waved to the audience. She was happy to be there and to support Jupe.
Also- when Jean Jacket opens up, it reminds me of a cat fluffing up. Like it recognizes OJ as a predator. OJ is the first thing it hasn’t just been able to eat and he’s hurt it. That’s why I believe OJ lives at the end. Jean Jacket is ultimately afraid of OJ and can’t look HIM in the eye.
That's what I thought. It's a defensive mood of sorts, especially considering JJ almost ate barbwire. I don't think it can eating in that form, it went back into saucer form to eat the balloon. (Plus they made a point to show the flags are still attached to Lucky.)
once you guys mentioned the Wizard of Oz stuff it just clicked to me that in the gordy scene, we saw a pair of legs from someone laying on the ground sticking out from behind the couch, like how the wicked witch of the west looks after being crushed by a house. and little jupiter keeps the shoe (which has a spot of red on it) that was previously worn by the attacked lady
Holy crap! On a somewhat unrelated note, does that mean there are other characters that have parallels to the wizard of oz? Is Holst more of a cowardly lion or a tin man? Or would angel be the tinman Because his heart is broken?
@@bondfall0072 Angel is the scarecrow, although the name doesn't check out. But he wants to use his mind, and show that he's intelligent. Much as Holst wants to feel something again.
I watched Kat Blaque's Nope video recently and she brought up another interesting aspect for the shoe - it plays on the old saying "waiting for the other shoe to drop" and it finally does for Jupe when he is the one who tries to control/tame the beast.
James: "Jordan Peele's movies never make you feel stupid." Me: _feeling stupid now hearing all of the seemingly obvious callbacks to the theme of animal behavior and the exploitation of tragic events and images_
I think they mean that some films are deliberately hard to understand. Jordan Peele puts everything in there for you, but you might not get it all on first viewing
Yeah I totally didn't get any of that while watching it and I do feel stupid that I didn't. But that's why we have James and Chelsea to explain it to us :)
I think the reason the internal shot of the alien digesting the people is disturbing to me is because of the young people (the teenagers and the kids) are put in harms way and ultimately killed because of the actions of those hellbent on spectacle rather than actually making sure than safety measures are in order. This is probably me reaching to far, but it also fits well into the themes throughout the story that children and teens in Hollywood and even social media are robbed of their lives because of the actions of adults. Swallowed, digested, and spat out before even getting the chance to determine what they want outta life to begin with.
I’ve heard plenty of tales of family channels that abuse their kids for the sake of views, both on and off screen. More mistreatment in the name of spectacle. You may well be onto something here, dude.
Nobody seems to have made this connection but when Holst talks about the ‘dream’ to Emerald, he’s practically describing how he dies. “Up on a mountain, all eyes on you.” He had to get to the crest of the mountain to get the monster’s attention. “It’s the dream you never wake up from.” He dies trying to film the monster.
I got to watch Nope, alone, in an empty theater, and BOY HOWDY was that an experience. I think having not having a crowd helped me see a side to this film that might go overlooked- Which is isolation. There is such a presence of nothing while on the farm, it is a ranch in the desert, and OJ has so many scenes alone, not by choice mind you. His isolation remind me of the scene when we realize the cloud Jean Jacket is in hasn't moved for hours while all other clouds have passed by, kinda like how OJ seems stuck in place after his father's death, and how every other character is moving towards a point they can't achieve. Idk, like Chelsea said during this episode, I may be reading to much into it.
The one thing Nope did really well was keep my anxiety high almost the entire time and the abduction scene is one of the most haunting scenes I’ve ever seen in a movie
Even when the last act wasn’t so scary/horror, there was still anxiety since you had no idea just how expendable the side characters, much less when OJ has thats elf-sacrificing moment, you just had no idea what was going to happen
I had to skip alot of the beginning because i was too creeped out (managed to see the key points though) but i was ok when they revealed the alien was like a wild animal, made me wayyyy less creeped out
One theme I clocked was the monetization of trauma as a means to make it 'mean' something. Both Jupe and The Haywoods want to make a spectacle out of Jean Jacket to try to cope with/overcome traumatic experiences. The only difference is that Jupe oversteps courtesy of his inexperience with the natural world and gets his comeuppance for it. It could also be seen as an allegory for trauma itself. There's no beating it, just the formation of an 'agreement' with it.
yeah i definitely felt like it was smth like thi. esp since jupe was also monetizing his own trauma (collecting merch and selling out the store for tourists)
Another theme is trying to tame animals or really anything that isn't meant to be tamed. Getting the horses and Gordy to act for one example, and Jupe making a deal with Jean Jacket.
Another thing is the value of material over life. This plays a part in the Gordy being utilized and treated as an object of hollywood on set like most people treat animals in show business for monetary gains. This correlates with the Alien when they perceived it as an object at first(UFO) like Jupe using it for his own gains and realized that it actually is living organism. Ironically it spits out inorganic matter where it is pretty much alluding to valuing life over materials which opposes human values over material than life. Each character’s name has meaning O. J.- Otis J.r and his father name means Son of Ode(lyrical poem) and also means “wealth” as a German name which is ironic being as though Otis Sr was killed by nickel going through his eye. Em- Emerald’s name is obviously the name of a illustrious gem however the symbolism behind an Emerald is based solely on sight and future vision in some cultures. Take Colombian culture they view emeralds as conduits for clairvoyance, premonitions, etc. Chelsea even mentioned the wizard reference of wearing emerald glasses to view the city in green. This correlates with the movie being as though sight plays big part of the movie’s plot; they don’t look at the creature so that they won’t upset it. Another correlation is the creature’s eye is square and green like how most emeralds are cut. Jupe- Jupe being his nick name I’m assuming full nickname is Jupiter which is a gigantic gas planet that is named after the roman god of sky. This correlates with the creature being a sky dweller and able to use nimbus clouds to camo itself. Another thing is that planet Jupiter is known to have a gigantic “eye” of storms on its surface which plays in the sight of spectacles theme of the movie. Angel- His name is clearly a reference to Angels in christianity. Angels were known as messengers and watchers which plays into his last name Torres which means towers which could reference how he was watching over the Haywoods from the cameras on high grounds. This correlates with the Creature being referenced as an Angelic-esque being who was watching from the skies. Antler Holst- Antler’s name seems easy to comprehend like obviously his name is the name of a structure of horns on deers, moose, and other cervid relatives. However the old french meaning of the word “Andouiller” state of being before the eyes. Another eye reference in a name, he’s a camera man that catches the impossible shot before his eyes(the camera is always before his eyes).
I think that the reason Holst films while he’s being eaten is that, while society doesn’t deserve the impossible shot, he wants it. It’s one for him, not for us. It’s the thing he wants to shoot and what the studio does not deserve. That’s why he says, I’ll do one for me, not for them- something along those lines.
I immediately felt that OJ was neurodiverse when he's speaking in front of the set crew, Daniel's acting made me instantly sympathetic to his character, I was so relieved when Emerald shows up to save him. So many people can put themselves in his shoes when it comes to speaking and eye contact. Just really touching even if him being on the spectrum isn't intentional.
Also I wish I would've taken notes because I saw the movie twice, but the cinematographer going through all the footage of animals sent my mind off in all different directions. Most of the animals shown are considered predators, there's focus shots on all of their eyes, close up. But also most of the clips are of two predators duking it out. And some incredibly weird looking scenarios like the giant snake defeating and eating a tiger. Obviously he's made a career off these "impossible shots" but his footage is gruesome, off-putting and honestly sad, no one wants to believe a tiger could be defeated by a snake much less WATCH it be consumed. I think it's made him cynical and maybe he's even had to do some unethical movie shit that put those animals in harm's way for profit. Who knows, but I think he was willing to sacrifice himself for THE shot, even if he has the sense to warn Emerald about the pursuit of fame. Very good character imo, hasn't left my mind!
I just want to say, thank you to everyone on Dead Meat. My little cousin showed me this channel a year or two ago and I have been hooked. More importantly this channel has brought us closer together, we find ourselves captivated by horror movies and now we ritualistically make plans to see the next horror movie that interests us. After seeing Nope in theaters this past week I couldn't help but reflect on the movie (because there are so many layers to a Jordan Peele film) but also how the relationship with my cousin has strengthened just because of this channel. The team at Dead Meat has made us more consciousness about cinema. This channel has had an impact on me as person that words simply can't do it justice. James and Chelsea I hope you find this comment. You are both wonderful people and I hope one day my cousin and I can finally meet you to thank you in person.
@Dead Meat hey will you guys have Keke Palmer and the rest of the cast on and talk about their favorite scary movies? She was in Scream Queens btw so it’d be cool to talk about that. And you guys should talk about season 2 of Chucky in a future discussion before it comes out
I also love the discussion of OJ being on the autism spectrum! im autistic myself and i thought the whole time "its really cool we have a lead with social anxiety or neurodivergence of some sort" and we got out and my mom said "so are you going to say he was autistic?" before i had even thought of it. but its so obvious now. regardless of if this gets confirmed its clear he was intended to have some kind of neurodiversity and positive representation is always important and rare, but especially for black characters and leads. I especially love that the "solution" to the problem in the crux of the movie IS his neurodivergency/directly related, the eye contact.
I love how Gordy and Jean Jacket both operate on the “don’t look at me” rule. While it might appear as if Jupe was spared because he had a connection with Gordy, the reality is he was protected from looking him in the eyes by the table cloth that separated them
He was staring at the shoe, instead of the ape which is what saved him, and why he kept the shoe. It's also another reason for the "bad miracle" explanation. He thought that he had a connection with the ape and that's why he was spared but it was actually because he was staring at the shoe. He thinks he's special so he's not afraid of the ship. He thinks it's trying to communicate when in reality, it's just hungry and doing what it does naturally. He doesn't understand or respect animals, which is why he's willing to feed horses to it. Because of this, he dies.
(spoilers) the moment that chilled me to my core, was when jean jacket killed those people and drenched the house in blood. The silence and the red coming over the house, ugh I felt so terrified, bc to me that was jean jacket warning them. Which shoes how much of a predator it is. I loved it!
It's crazy how at all times Jean Jacket knows where they live and at any point in time it could attack. One of the questions I had was why JJ waited as long as it did, seemingly watching them the entire time except for when it "attacked" and killed the dad
Same!! I love how - to my mind - that scene’s such a literal interpretation of the quote at the start of the film. They try to take their initial shots of JJ, but fail, and in return JJ quite literally shits on their house (“cast abominable filth” lol), making them a ‘spectacle’ to the audience. Fantastic scene and overarching themes/narratives.
Just as an aside on how accurately they portrayed Jean Jackets animalistic behavior: I read around on Reddit and some other articles that Jean Jacket unfurling to it's full size is referred to as Deimatic Behavior in squids, when they feel threatened or outmatched they unfurl and extend all their tentacles to make themselves bigger. There's this idea even that JJ started viewing the Haywood's as a threat. It's timid and hides inside a cloud for hours at a time and has had the everliving shit kicked out out of it's digestive system by the Haywood's. It knows that they can kill it and even when it's trading glances during the final standoff, it isn't moving. It's standing still cautiously waiting for someone to make the first move. Its acting like an alpha predator, but in reality Jean jacket seems pretty scared. It adds an interesting element of both realism and tragedy to the whole movie that I love.
I don’t know if it’s called the same, but I‘ve been watching a lot of tarantula videos, and they do the same thing. They prefer to run, but if there is no immediate exit they will rear up, stretching their front legs, and bare their fangs. Heck, you can even see that in us humans, straightening up, spreading arms, and going loud. It’s a pretty great survival reaction, trying to bluff your way out of a threatening situation. You’re trying to be perceived as the bigger threat in the room.
@@ArDeeMee I think the most amusing but common example is cats/kittens, when they puff up, the classic Halloween cat isn't an angry cat but a scaredy cat
I know everyone mentions the chimp and abduction scene as the scariest, however I feel like the Sunglasses at Night scene is extremely haunting and eerie.
Some things I noticed in the movie that weren’t mentioned: After the cameras are installed. Angel shows them the cloud that doesn’t move and OJ says “I’ve probably stared at that cloud every day for the past 6 months” which is the time frame in which Otis senior died. Showing that OJ stopped keeping his head down and looked up to the sky. Maybe to say every day is a miracle. That same moment also shows that until it’s presented to us we could be staring something in the face forever and not even notice it until it’s considered a spectacle or something worthy of our attention. The second thing I noticed was that every animal with a named title card dies before the next name appears except Lucky. I’m the beginning when they are on set the actress asks OJ the horses name. When he says lucky she asks “well is he?” And he quickly responds “yeah” before calling Emerald over. In the end of the movie it’s left ambiguous if OJ lives in his attempt to distract Jeanjacket so emerald can get away but I believe that the lesson is because he saved lucky from jupiters claim earlier and lucky is indeed lucky he survives. If he didn’t care or respect his horses and save lucky when it mattered then he would have used a different horse in that scene and died. Those are my opinions/take aways
Also, OJ's general proficiency with handling animals likely saved him, holding eye contact and establishing his dominance likely made Jean Jacket back down. Also, the last stationary horse JJ devoured got lodged in it's throat and caused it great pain.
Yeah, Lucky is one of the Haywood's better trained horses. He does not panic when JJ was snatching Jupe and his audience up, and he does not panic when JJ was unfurling itself for a final showdown. We have seen Haywood's other horses being snatched by JJ by now, ALL of them panicked and ran which I am sure what triggered JJ's feeding cue. If OJ does not bring Lucky for the final confrontation, he will 100% died to JJ because the horse WILL panic and either dislodge OJ or ran from the massive creature with OJ on, both will result in the same outcome of JJ eating OJ because it is expecting him to react.
I do wonder if that in the Kill Count of Nope (which I think will definitely happen once it's out for Blu-Ray), James should decide on adding all deaths. Not just human, but any animal death shown. I think it would work as a subtle nod towards the message of respecting animals and their nature.
It's also cool how the movie's central characters are film workers in areas the public and media view as "not as glamorous" compared to directing and acting. The Haywoods are animal handlers and trainers, Holst is a cinematographer (a job that's become more recognized in recent years, but Johnny Everyman isn't gonna know what that is still), and Angel is more of a catch-all in film tech with how he helps set up the surveillance and tech troubleshooting. Just a fun little detail
As a creature designer, i absolutely ADORED Jean Jacket's design. Easily one of the most iconic monsters in the last few years. It's not just the twist itself and the mix of beauty and horror in it; but its mechanics as well. It all ties back to the fact that the classical "flying saucer" is essentially the camouflage of a flying apex predator. Many times throughout the story you see it making all this impossible manuevers throughout the farm field, in reference to UFOs usually breaking the rules of gravity and speed. Well, in this movie, it is explained by it being basically a sentient ballon - which is entirely comprised of air sacks of some sort except for that one geometrical joint in the middle of it made out of ribbons (it is up to anyone's interpretation if its either its brain or an eye or both). This allows it to basically inflate itself from within and because its hollow, it can regulate the air that comes in it and by doing so propulse itself or float at will. Thats also why it can create clouds as a form of camouflage as well: it can absorb the water particles in the atmosphere and condense them through it sacks and then keep it around itself. I liked also how its got not only personality, but the design itself has a sort of sense of humour. Usually, you would expect a creature like this to have some sort of recognizable feature from earth... yet it doesn't. The only geommetrycal thing in its body is that one square shape, which isnt even solid and it's a set of ribbons whichapart from the brilliant symbolism of it being basically a camera lens, works similar to how some birds or sea creatures have defense mechanisms to either hypnotize their prey or confuse their predators (as to what of both could it be... again it is for everyone to decide).
Correction, the person who was mauled by Travis the Chimp was NOT his owner, but his babysitter. She was holding his favorite Elmo toy and that in combination with the anxiety the Xanax gave him made him go crazy and attack her.
I always interpreted the alien being named Jean Jacket as Emerald's new "horse" as the plan to take a picture of it was originally her plan and I think her getting the oprah shot is the closure she needed for never being able to train the real Jean Jacket herself.
im not on the spectrum as we know of, but i did immediately think oj seemed some sort of neurodivergent. i got the idea from his eye contact thing, and the way he talked and acted just solidified that to me. thinking about it more after the movie makes me think it must have been on purpose
While I'm not neuordivergent myself, I noticed the certain traits as well as was so happy. It's nice to see lead characters who are different! They shyness of his character was pretty relatable to me, It can be hard for me to speak up with i'm around a lot of strangers and others are more assertive.
Just saw it and I had the same thoughts!! I immediately recognised the looking downward possibly to avoid eye contact in the first scene and like, thirteen different situations I’ve been in like tht came to mind lmao
Also, the Gordy segment of the movie from the title card right up to the shot of older Jupe with his thousand yard stare is a little over 6 minutes and 13 seconds.
Y'all got the story of Travis the chimp a little wrong, it's even more terrifying. The person that was mauled by Travis wasn't Travis' owner, it was a friend of the owner. When Travis melted down, Travis' owner called a friend over and that friend that came to help further triggered Travis after Travis saw her holding one of his favorite toys.
I feel bad for Travis as much as the friend. Obviously what happened to her was horrible, but I feel that most people read the story and only hear how vicious chimps can be and not what conditions set them off in the first place.
@@jackroberts2704 Chimps do the worst things you can imagine to other primates in the wild. It's probably best if we just leave them out there and keep our distance.
When Antlers Holst says "~you dream of being on top of the mountain with all eyes on you, but thats the dream i never wake up from" its the foreshadowing his own death, on top of the mountain with Emerald's, OJ's, Angle's and the "alien's" eyes on him
I think Ant going into Jean Jacket is another "One for them, one for me" situation. It also makes me wonder if the pills were something like cancer medication, as if something that is eating him from the inside. Combined with the animal footage it's very "This is the circle of life, we are all just food for the next creature".
I think the reason Em interrupted Jupe and asked him where he got the fake horse first, It's for her can answer "Oh me too, what a coincidence" later And I think Jupe sensed her intentions, which is why he replied "I don't know" Smart move for both of them
There's also that fridge horror about Jean Jacket being a territorial animal, because it implies there's potentially something worse than it for it to be so aggressive
@@Sm0k3turt I mean, technically it is? Just because it isn’t a flying saucer doesn’t negate the possibility that Jean Jacket is extraterrestrial in nature.
When the balloons pop and Gordy starts acting out, the cast says “Gordy, no, no.” two times just like that before realizing theyre no longer in control. That loss of dominance and another species holding all the attention in the room is terrifying to me. The way the actors acted nervous already gave this sense of unease like they didnt trust him, it was a fantastic sequence. The way Peele doesnt show all of it made me fill in some grizzly pictures in my head and i hate him for that haha. As someone that used to browse pictures of gore on the internet as an endurance test seeing how many pages I could sift through, I can’t deny I have a curiosity to look at disturbing and violent things. Im out of that edgy phase by now but I bring that up because I feel like Jordan Peele is the first filmmaker to set up a fictional tragedy and make me not want to see a tragic event take place, any other time I’m like “oh i wanna see that accident or attack i hope they show a flashback” but Jordan Peele made me *afraid* to see it. And again, when we do eventually get that flashback it is telegraphed perfectly. I also think my entertainment through looking through these gore pages as a kid is tied to Nope’s themes of America being obsessed with violence and their desensitization to it. Jordan Peele knows we want to see certain violence unfold and plays around with that while making commentary on it at the same time. I’m not sure if he’s critiquing it yet or just pointing it out yet, but another example is that you can find this chimp attack 911 call on any “disturbing real life phone call” list, and I feel like that incident was just another one of thousands of tragic cases that spread around the watercooler and even talked about on Oprah (the movie also mentions an oprah shot which is why i think Peele tied this incident into the story on purpose) and that is what i mean in america finding spectacle in mass incidents. I heard about that case as a kid from my grandma and have been afraid of chimps ever since. For JP to tap into something I found so scary from the intake of news and media, it adds a personal layer of appreciation to Nope, because I’m not sure if others will find these ideas as effective as I did. Anyway i have to admit i posted this before even finishing the episode but I was excited to start discussing. Great episode and cant wait to learn more theories about this masterpiece.
2009. That’s when the real life incident happened. I don’t remember the names of the women involved ; but there is a 911 call from the owner of 180 lbs male chimp attacking her friend . ‘He’s killing her!’ Is what I remember from that horrifying call. The woman that was attacked actually survived, and has had several surgeries to repair her face. The owner passed away some years ago. Yes, when I saw that scene in the cold open, that is where my brain went to. I was a zookeeper for 15 years . I worked in our zoo nursery with Chimps , Gorillas, and Orangutans. Male Chimps terrified me the most. Even young ones. I remember one at 3 years old that I made it a point to stay away from. All that came flooding back in that scene. The scariest in the movie!
@@denisematthews6215 i seemed to mix different incidents together. but i love your reply, your fear is so valid, i feel like i would have been the same way with certain species as an animal keeper. Im too paranoid of a person to even turn my back on an animal like that.
Not only is NOPE my favorite Jordan Peele movie, it's my favorite film of the year thus far. It captured that feeling I can only imagine JAWS did in the 70s. It was genuinely terrifying, heartfelt, funny, and just a genuinely gorgeous and stunningly epic blockbuster that juggles multiple genres & themes without wavering whatsoever! SPOILERS AHEAD! One thing about the film that just blew me away on rewatching it a 2nd time was how the opening credits has the audience slowly moving further into Jean Jacket's eye/face, because JJ's design is wildly unsettling and so effing brilliant! Jean Jacket was a watcher of its own, too.
At the beginning of the film, us, the film audience, stare in confusion, horror, and curiosity and are eventually pulled into Jean's stomach, exactly like the audience at the Star Lasso Experience. Just like them, we didn't know any better. We didn't know we weren't supposed to look at it because we came to the theater for a spectacle, and obviously you wouldn't look away right as the show is getting started. This is Jordan Peele's ingenious way of proving that if we were put into the same situation, we would meet the same fate as that poor audience.
A couple details I noticed on rewatching (MAJOR SPOILERS AHEAD): - on the MAD magazine cover with Gordy, Heaven’s Gate is also mentioned as something the issue is poking fun at. - in Jupe’s little Gordy museum, there’s a t-shirt on the wall over his shoulder with the names of several NASA ships, including the Challenger. For younger folks, the Challenger was a ship that exploded during launch in the 1980s-and the explosion was broadcast live on television. My best friend also pointed out that he’s pretty sure the mom in the sitcom is modeled after Christa McAuliffe, an astronaut who died in the Challenger explosion. (would love confirmation from the actress/costume designers on this!) - in the sitcom opening, the dad is dressed as the Empire State Building, possibly a nod to the original King Kong. - When Em finally boots up the electric bike, you can see the letters EVA on the dashboard. Considering the fact that Jean Jacket is based on the angels from Evangelion, there’s no way that’s not a reference. - TMZ dude’s helmet looks almost exactly like that VFX ball. - This may be a stretch, but Antlers taking the camera with him into the maw of the beast reminded me hugely of a Japanese horror movie called Occult, directed by Shiraishi Koji. In Occult, Shiraishi plays himself, filming a documentary about the aftermath of a sensational public stabbing. His investigation leads him to someone who plans to carry out a suicide bombing. I don’t want to spoil the whole movie for everyone, but those who have seen it will probably understand why Antlers taking the camera with him reminded me of the ending of Occult.
I TOUGHT ABOUT OCCULT TOO!!!! Also, when Oj goes to get lucky back there is a pig on the roof that didnt get eaten, because pigs can't look up And Jupe's design for the aliens has the head of the cameras that were filming when the Gordy accident happened, and the body of a chimpanzee
I think the TMZ dude's helmet being exactly like the VFX ball is what makes OJ realise he can't save him (soz if they bring that up, I haven't finished the whole podcast yet)
The cinematography on this film was insane. I also thought the way you could hear the victims screams as Jean Jacket took them was chilling. Jordan Peele's movies are fun to rewatch because you can see things that you missed on first view.
I loved Nope, my friend group was divided on it, but I was never bored watching it and love Jordan Peele's direction. If I had to rank his films it would go: 1. Us 2. Nope 3. Get Out, but they're all amazing
I don't remember the exact wording of the line, but my favorite "title drop" of all time, even if it wasn't intended this way, was when Em and OJ were talking "Is there a word for a bad miracle?" "Nope." I also particularly enjoyed when the actress asked OJ what the horse's name was, and when he answered "Lucky" she asked "Is he though?"
Antler is also hinted at being sick through his coughing and use of pills, this could be a reason he doesnt really care if he dies or not and is trying to get that impossible shot to bring peace to himself rather than actually capturing the spectacle of the alien.
Chelsea's reading on JJ spitting out all things humans use in our lives and how when humans make a spectacle of animals, they symbolically spit out all the things that make then what they are is such S+ tier level of analysis Incredible podcast
This was one of the scariest movies I've ever seen but it showed incredible restraint. The horror was in what you didn't see it was in the sound design and the claustrophobia. I loved it
He found a way to make up unable to look away....even if you close your eyes, you FEEL the impact through the sounds. It forced me to watch it because the scene without sight made it so much worse cause my imagination filled the gaps
The part where the ship is eating those people is probably one of the most chilling moments I’ve ever seen, it sticks with you just like the Gordy scene. The blood on the house too is where it sinks in that Keith David’s character was killed when the predator ufo was basically regurgitating things it could not consume.
Not my own thoughts, saw this on Twitter, but Logan Paul (Mr. Spectacle himself) didn't understand the movie about spectacle was the pinnacle of irony. That being said, I had thoughts about this movie like 2 or so weeks ago when it was released, but since then have forgotten them entirely. But I really enjoyed it, the second act with Steven Yeun's plot had me the most enthralled and my god those Gordy scenes, my GOD!
I remember hearing about his comments but I agree about the irony. He is the same guy that filmed a dead body in a know suicide forest for youtube. The movie also speaks of messed up morals too. I never once realized how terribly ironic of Logan Paul even though he has a right to his opinion.
Does anybody notice that when James mentions that Ricky’s line about “in one hour, your life will change” (paraphrase) comes with 1 hour of running time in the movie, there is almost one hour of time left in this episode as well?? 🤯
Regarding how Steven Yeun's character treats his trauma, I think that he spent most of his young life and career compartmentalizing smaller traumas that come with being a child actor. He learned that he should at least make some money off it and so it makes sense that when he goes through this horrible incident with the chimp, his response as an adult is to profit off it.
Yeah, it feels closely connected to the whole theme of spectacle at high cost, seeking for that “Oprah shot” being closely associated to its demanded danger
Loved your review. The form Jean Jacket took at the end reminded me of animals who puff themselves up and seem much bigger when they're defensive or aggressive. It was Jean Jacket at its most PO'd. And the shoe... I thought it was something mundane, like it fell against something unseen to us which gave it the illusion of floating (and it was just like Jupe to ascribe mystical powers to the shoe in that moment). One of my favorite parts was when Daniel Kaluuya's character nopes on back into the pickup truck and locks the truck door on Jean Jacket. Cracked me up. Classic.
When Emerald gives her safety talk she says great twice referring to her grandfather and OJ says “great” letting her knows there’s another great. This might be seen as just a funny throw away, but before Ottis died he would given the safety talk at every gig (this is confirmed as we hear it in a tape later) and Emerald and OJ having been present at presumedly a lot of those she would have just taken exactly what Ottis said. And it makes sense as Ottis would’ve only needed to say “great” twice because there isn’t that extra generation yet. Cool little detail I thought. EDIT: They mention this at 1:28:20
yeah i notied that too! later when emerald is watching an old tape of their father doing the spiel he says two “greats” so i can imagine she has replayed and listen to that tape a lot and it stuck in her head that way
I thought they did that because it was eventually gonna be revealed that the guy actually wasn't related to them and that whole story was just something Keith David's character made up.
I finally watched this movie yesterday and loved it so I had to come back and watch this episode. Something that stood out to me, with the theme of exploitation and the spectacle, is how it almost teases this idea of showing us the spectacle of things. It teases what happened on the sitcom, giving us that sense of wanting to see the event itself as an audience. While we get shown it, it's all from a limited view and the actual things an audience would want to see (the cast being attacked, killed, maimed, etc) is all done out of frame. It sticks us firmly in the POV of Jupe for most of the time we spend in that moment. Or we merely see the moments before and the aftermath. Even the people being "abducted" or eaten as we later learn is kind of a tease of the spectacle. We would want to see the aliens, find out what they're doing to people, or see them get eaten and digested. Yet it does the exact same thing. It shows us enough to give a sense of what's happening, but it never shows it actually happening. Much like the Gordy incident, we only see the moments before and the aftermath, as JJ spits out all the inorganic matter. But the film denies the audience the actual "payoff" of seeing the entire thing happen on both accounts. I just thought it was really interesting how the theme of exploitation and the spectacle parallels with the movie never showing us the "spectacles" a horror movie usually would.
God I think the scene when they’re inside the monster is just straight horrifying, of the horror movies I’ve watched that shit haunts me, and I’m not sure why…
Over time this movie's rating has continuously gone up for me, I love the themes it tackles, the fantastic acting, the gorgeous cinematography, and the amazing writing. The religious parallels with the monetization of trauma make it a very critically distinct film, and Jupe is one of my favourite characters in a movie ever. He is a direct example of the theme itself, with him choosing to profit over his trauma instead of properly coping, eventually leading to the death of the people at the fair because of his innate desire when confronted with a dangerous beast (which he had with gordy, another flesh-eating monster, that ended with a semi-friendly encounter) was to profit off it.
As someone who is on the spectrum myself I related a lot with OJ and Emerald. They’re sort of the two halves of my mind. When I’m embarrassed by my parents vamping about me or I’m in a cringey conversation I tend to act more reserved like OJ, but when I’m having a nice conversation or hanging out with my friends I tend to act more like Em.
I was at a funeral today, and the vibes have been very off all day, but seeing the notification of this videos upload has genuinely made me light up, keep up the good work guys ❤
if it helps for when Em and OJ steal the horse, I think Em asks where Jupe got it so she can just say that she got it from the same place. the whole “oh wow, what a crazy coincidence! I can’t believe we got two identical horses from the same place!”
Having Holst's the Planets as your favourite piece is definitely valid, James! It's literally the father of all film music, many film scores would not exist without it, its influence is everywhere, and I just wish the average person knew more than just Mars and the middle section of Jupiter! Venus and Neptune are personal favourites but they're all beautiful...
Some of the themes in Nope regarding the flawed nature of humanity’s attempts to control, well, nature, remind me of the documentary “Blackfish.” It’s about the bloody history behind SeaWorld’s orca shows, and I wonder if it served as any inspiration for Peele’s thought process with Gordy and Jupiter’s Claim.
I saw this movie in IMAX the other day. (Highly recommend btw.) I haven't really stop thinking about it either. It horrified me in a way I didn't expect. My mom was horrified when I explained the chimpanzee scene. She actually told me she felt ill. But the most disturbing scene for me was what I dubbed "the innards". Was pleasantly surprised by the iconic Akira reference and seeing Fry's. That was weirdly why I wanted to see the movie. I actually went to that Fry's when I was little. It's kinda beautiful it's immortalized in a film now.
The movie was way, WAY more disturbing than I thought, the Gordy scene chilled me to the bone of how real it was, even without knowing that almost exact same incident happened in real life, the innards scene scarred me tho, I WAS NOT prepared for it, and I am still thinking. in my opinion- Best horror movie of the year so far.
I think when the horse freaks at the shoot is more foreshadowing about the creature being territorial. Otis Sr mentions the horse being territorial, and when it sees a horse reflection of another horse looking at it, the horse gets upset.
One thing that stuck with me with me from the flashbacks was the fathers reaction vs Jupiter’s reaction. The father confronted and demanded things of Gordy while Jupiter acknowledged the strength of Gordy and rightfully respected/feared it. This aligns with the theme of man not respecting the power of nature and thinking he’s always “top dog”.
I did something that I haven't done in a horror movie since I was about 8: I hunched down in my seat and held my bag in front of myself as if it could protect me.
Another thing I read into was in the scene before the TMZ guy showed up, the cinematographer sang “one eye, one horned, flying purple people eater,” and TMZs helmet made it look like he had one eye. And of course also it’s a parallel to Jean Jacket but I can also see it this way
I’m usually tough when it comes to scary movies, but the Star Lasso Experience scene made me so scared, I almost started crying like a little kid. And I’m 20
I do love how even though Em got the picture, it kind of looks like a butterfly or some sort of bug and could still look like it was fake. Also the fact that it has blown up and is just drifting through the sky, it could be mistaken for some sort of fabric
agreed with Chelsea that this is my favorite Jordan Peele movie! something about it just sticks with me more than the others... I think it's because of the idea of spectacle and how ingrained that is into our lives. I saw this definition that I think really summed it up: "Spectacles are barbaric, as they strip the autonomy and dignity of a living thing for the entertainment, amusement, and invasive curiosity of others." like !!! my mind immediately went to family vlogs for some reason - making a spectacle of children who have no say in the matter. Of course the real-life Chimp attack or sea world shows gone wrong come to mind too for exploiting animals purely for entertainment, but man, it goes deeper than that.
This was one of the rare movies that I have liked more and more the longer I think about it. And I was very glad that I left with the one thought I wish I could’ve left with after seeing Us: that I had no idea what the ‘monster’ was, where it came from, or what it wanted.
The shoe standing upright is from the old saying waiting for the other shoe to drop. When the shoe drops in such a perfect state, it's literally the other shoe. Whereas the thing that happens next in the movie after that scene is literally the horror of jean jacket eating everyone alive just like Gordy ate the cast members. It is the other shoe dropping.
Saw nope last night loved it dragged my dad and brother out and they said they didn’t want to see a dumb alien movie but they walked out the theater raving about it lmao
Went as saw Nope with my sister last week, had the same feeling once it ended like "eh, it was pretty good." But on the drive home me and my sister could not stop talking about it and all the themes and layers to it. Cant wait to see it again.
3:09 meeeeee. i watched it a few days ago, and i thought it was really cool, but not MINDBLOWING. then I realised how much the "lucky" chapter with the jupiter's claim scene disturbed me. now I've been guzzling content about the movie for days.
@@nickmendoza6615 it was one of Looper's videos I think, and it was less a put together theory and more of an observation that Peele started the movie with a quote from the Tanakh and it's a movie about spectical. And I like this idea that the Alien was possibly older than the ranch, if not ancient (Ancient Aliens reference from Angel) and that's why it's so territorial. Like I said, not a fleshed out theory, but I think it's a cool idea.
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As a "horse person" I want to mention some things I noticed. It's not just that OJ works hard and has responsibilities. He genuinely cares for his charges. You can see this when he says, "I have mouths to feed", when talking about needing to go back after the escape into town. That is something you usually hear about kids, not creatures.
You can also see it on the farm (and someone on this film KNEW real horse farms). We see him feeding, watering the arena (keeps the dust down so the horses working, or playing as they were in that scene, don't have to breath so much dust), and genuinely concerned about why the horse is being weird in the pasture. Em would have stayed in the house, OJ had to find out what was bothering the animal. You also see him working with Lucky before the big ride, both with the traditional plastic bags and with the waving figure, helping the horse to understand that these things blowing around will not hurt him.
In the commercial shoot he is totally focused on the horse and what it needs, "Don't get behind him". The horses are his partners and his responsibility, not just tool for TV ratings, fame, or feeding to an alien.
This is the essence of the movie
He doesn't seem to be upset when his horses die though? That part didn't make sense to me although overall I really liked the film. He didn't seem to have much of an emotional response to the horses, except when he goes to rescue Lucky
@@chrisytfc879 I think he did though, even when his father dies, we don’t see him grieve because when you’re working constantly, trying to survive, you may not have time to grieve, that doesn’t mean he doesn’t grieve or lacks empathy it means OJ will always have to keep moving, keep surviving.
Edit: bad spelling lol
You're totally right -- he really cares about them. When he went out to check on Ghost in the arena that night, we get a shot of him asking "You good?" just as seriously as he did to his sister and dad.
I also like how OJ specifically chooses Lucky, who is shown earlier to have trouble with eye contact.
I think the shoe thing even proves the movie’s point a little. People are so fixated on something strange that it’s distracting them from the horrific violence happening on the same sound stage.
This take right here 🤌🏻
Omg yesssss
GOD DAMN, you NAILED it.
YES
A spectacle brought on by ill means
Not surprised that Logan Paul, the same man who made a huge spectacle of a dead body online wouldn't get a movie that talks about exploitation of moments that shouldn't be exploited.
Logan Paul can huff my shorts
You’d be surprised at how impressionable him and his family/friends/fans are, and just how much of a horrible influence no matter the amount of apology videos can change that
Yeah after watching the movie this is ironic..
I hate Logan Paul. But im not surprised a black one defending this shitty movie
or maybe he does get it and felt uncomfortable with the realization and is in denial... either way, that was an embarrassing thread for him to write lmao
Jupe was spared by the Gordy chimp because of the VEIL that was covering his eyes. In the shot before everyone gets sucked into JJ, the mauled actress' VEIL covers her eyes, but the moment the wind blows it up and we see her face, looking up into JJ, she's a goner. I just realized that and it's a neat parallel
Gordy came out of his rage once the balloons stopped and seemed to try to get back to doing their exploding fistbump
@@a.c.slater7989 Yes but had Jupe made direct eye contact Jordie most likely would've attacked again
I knew he didn't put her there for no reason...
I mean if it’s a big vacuum she’s gonnna be swept up anyways
@@a.c.slater7989 actually apes have their own sign language that fist bump is just their wag of saying hello
The abduction scene blew my mind and I was absolutely shook. I was expecting the inside of JJ to be a ship, some sort of technological lair, but when the inside was like a massive umbrella/balloon-esque monster I was blown away. I felt completely lost and truly didn’t know what was going to happen next. This fear of the unknown was terrifying in this movie.
That scene in the thing is the most horrifying funhouse attraction and then you die.
That scene was so disturbing
RIGHT and the body horror of the digestion sequence
There's a scene in the beginning of the movie where you're seeing inside some rectangular chamber that is supposed to be an old fashioned camera (with the footage of the jockey) and it's made to look like the creature's digestive tract. The theming and motifs in the movie are out of control, they're so fucking good.
that scene made my skin crawl, i ended up covering my ears because the screams that echoed from the people made me panic and so did the digestion scene that was horrific and almost made me nauseous
The sound of Gordy's anxious breathing, before he snapped, broke my heart. The signs were all there that they were mistreating this animal, and they ignored it in the name of a damn sitcom.
I love that “Jean Jacket” took the form of things we’re accustomed to seeing in the sky. It hides behind clouds, it looks like a flying saucer, and when it expands it starts to look like a kite or hot air balloon. True form of being a predator in the wild. Blending in with the environment.
Looks like an old camera 🎥
what? anyone who sees that in the sky, other than the braindead characters in the movie, would freak out. no one is like "oh look honey, another flying saucer we're so used to seeing"
@@RayCharound Kadeem isn’t saying that seeing a flying saucer is a normal occurrence, but rather it’s smart that Jean Jacket is taking the form of things we normally associate with being in the sky. Kadeem’s comment actually made me consider what if Jean Jacket has seen UFO’s and took on that form to mimic them - an adaptation. A cool thought, but personally I left thinking the intention was for us to rethink UFOs sightings entirely.
@@DiGGy539 yes, the genius Jean Jacket that eats a giant Bob's Big Boy balloon
@@RayCharound I’m not saying adaptations make animals geniuses, it’s just mimicry. Many animals adapt to blend in with their surroundings or to look like something they’re not. They also often get fooled by other animals. Their intelligence isn’t all or nothing
I loved when Angel is setting up the cameras to be covered before the storm and he says something like "Just tarpin' up to be safe". I only caught that on my second watch and I almost gasped out loud. So so so good.
Wait, I don't get it?
@@DeadMeat he was wrapped in the blue tarp and barbed wire later on and that saved his life presumably
@@DeadMeat Angel wraps himself in the tarp later (with the barbed wire fence) and it saves him from being eaten by Jean Jacket. He tarps himself up to be safe!
OHHHHHHHHHH WOW!!! Awesome catch!
@@DeadMeat Thanks man!! Peele’s brilliant. 👍
The brilliance of the chimp stuff is that it is horror with no villain. Yeah the chimp is the aggressor.... but not a villain or a bad guy. It's a circumstance that puts something in a place it shouldn't be.
True. It also helps the horror of the situation that while Gordy is extremely scary, you can’t properly direct blame towards him because it’s not really his fault. As you said, he not the villain. Very smart filmmaking on Jordan Peele’s part.
People also have to understand, it's STILL a wild animal. Captivity or not, instincts are still that of a wild animal and it can't be held for its survival skills kicking in when it gets scared.
RUclips has got to do something about these bots, man.
@@RealBradMiller yup. Reported that immediately.
Great point. At no point during that scene did I think of Gordy as a villain, I thought he was terrifying....just so sad
I like to think that Jupe definitely knows that the horse statue is his, but he just lets it slide considering he’s been feeding their old horses to a fucking alien creature for six months and they’re never gonna get them back. Like “yeah… they can just keep it”
I'd like to think he lets it slide because if the cops or another 3rd party comes in, they'll notice the giant unmoving cloud and fuck everything up. Also was jupe planning in killing them with the invite?
In retrospect that makes total sense. Especially with the invitation to the show.
Same
To be fair to Jupe he doesn't know the horses are getting eaten. He thinks Jean Jacket is a spaceship and maybe he can ask "the Viewers" to return the horses someday.
well jupe knew that it was his horse bc that’s the reason why he sent his kids to scare/prank oj
I interpret Ant’s “finale” as him going out finally getting the impossible shot. He went there to get the impossible shot, and he was able to film the ship, meaning it wasn’t impossible. The true impossible shot is something that could never be captured or even seen.
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I believe he got sucked up intentionally as he knew even if he died then the camera would get spewed back out with its footage as the best possible proof. Unfortunately since the kinda blew the alien up the camera along with the footage was also lost
I didn't even think of that since no one really knows what exactly happens once people gets captured. Ig he learned in the end but the film was destroyed so RIP
@@carktheshark I think they defiantly worked out what happens when you get captured, they'd worked out that it was an animal and also saw it rain blood.
But he also says "we don't deserve the impossible." Really confusing scene, mostly because his character is underdeveloped so we can't say for sure why he committed suicide.
The scene of the people at the round up being sucked up and screaming in the claustrophobic throat of the beast was so horrifying I couldn't look away and actually cried bc it made me sick to see the humans like that and I think it'll always stick with me. Jordan really blew me away with this one. The design of the beast, the screams echoing from it, the inability to reason with it... Amazing. The cast was rad, and that shot of the sister doing the Akira slide was sooooo good.
That scene really fucked me up too.
I feel the exact same way holy shit, never felt so out of breath and tense from a horror movie before.
The alien spitting out the inedible parts made me think of snakes when they eat eggs (we also see a snake fighting a tiger in the movie). They swallow them whole, break them in their bodies, and then spit out the shell. It’s an excellent parallel to all the stories of studios wringing out everything of value out of talented people and then discarding them once their fame wanes or they can’t do it any more.
Yeah, both hollywood fame and UFO’s are things people look for and aim at, but we see that they just chew you up and spit you out
Owls vomit out the bits they can't digest.
Or skull crawlers (they spit out the bones after eating all the flesh off) or me when I eat a cherry and I spit the thing in the middle out
Have you ever seen the video of the Manta-Ray ‘spawnkilling’ a crab? Basically a crab mid-moulting, and you can see he is exactly like JJ he just sucks in the crab like a vacuum, and then blows real hard with most the shell bits and pushes it into the sand. Very cool visual that looks so surprisingly similar even with that flat disc underside and one hole
@@GuineaPigEverydayThat’s exactly what I thought when watching the film!
Something that got pointed out to me that I cannot get out of my head is: There's a poster of Nope showing Steven Yuen's Jupe looking up to the sky. In that poster, apparently Jupe isn't wearing a hat. It's Jean-Jacket.
I happen to be the college kid they’re talking about hahaha. LOVED chatting with these two before and after the movie!!
Ohhhhh shiiiiiit Issaiha what up man! Hope the internship is going well!
@@DeadMeat it’s going great!!! love the video btw! full on re-lived premiere night lol!
Just curious...DO you know who Chris Kattan is?
Wait yeah that's a good question actually.
@@RossComptonthe19thlol… the claims were right.. I did not know who he was. but i do now! LMAO
Kaluuya deserves a lot of credit for being so great around the horses, he really seems like a legitimate handler and must have put in a ton of work to be that comfortable with the animals.
The scene where all of the people got abducted and are inside Jean Jacket chilled me to my core. The screams, the visuals, even just the idea of it made me want to throw up out of anxiety… I LOVED IT!!!!!
Saw it a second time and had to walk out at that part
I almost had to leave the theater for a little bit after that one lol
@@grape9926 me too. I honestly hadn’t felt like that since War of the Worlds. I was about 10 and the scene where they extracted the blood from people to spray it everywhere made me throw up… horror movies rarely scare me… alien horror when done right FUCKS ME UP!!!
I don't think I've ever been more disturbed after a movie and it was because of that scene. And it was so short too, but damn it freaked me out
My cloulsterphobia 💀💀💀
My mom had to look away
I think the shoe sticking out WAS it's point, and Peele achieved his goal by having it stick in the viewers mind. In the midst of this traumatic incident, something weird just stuck out and pulled focus to help Jupe dissociate from the horror in front of him, and it did the same for us watching.
(SPOILERS) Nope is the third movie to ever make me laugh out loud in a theatre. Kaluuya just saying “Nope” as he saw the aliens in the stables broke me.
Also when he's in the car lolll
thought it was just me
I love that it's the creepiest scene in the movie, and its one big jokey misdirect and it precedes the most horrifying scene in the movie which is when JJ eats Jupe, his family and his audience.
he and his sister slapping eachothers hands had me cackling
@@Falxifer95 The Strangers level of discomfort - heck, probably more since I screamed at the 3rd one being revieled
SNL absolutely would have done a skit about Gordy. They did a skit about the Heaven's Gate mass suicide the week that it happened. They even showed footage of the bodies.
😳
watched the heaven's gate hbo series a few weeks ago and was absolutely Shocked when they showed the skit
My dad mentioned that! He said that no one realized that something horrible happened because everyone thought it was just a joke. It wasn't until a day or so later that everyone realized what had actually happened
Came here to say this!
Interestingly enough Heaven’s Gate is even referenced on the taglines of the Mad Magazine cover in Jupe’s office
I don’t know if many people realized this, but the alien costumes Jupe’s kids wear are a combination of the Gordy chimp actor for the body and the Panavison cameras for the faces, tying into the alien being called “The Viewers.”
I didn't realize until I saw a comparison pic on Twitter, but I still somehow wasn't surprised, like it had registered subconsciously for me and I just didn't actively put the pieces together. I think that speaks incredibly highly to Peele's visual cues because I understood that they were linked without even actively realizing it.
Theres also the theory how the faces of the alien suits was based on the actress that got her face ruined by gordy and how it ties in to how Jupe truly didnt see nor cared on what was wrong bout the inccident and how he saw his co-star friend's traumatizing moment as a opportunity for the design of the alien mascot suits.
She even looked like she was very uncomfortable and didnt wanna be there when she was introduced to the crowd.
Tho granted, i like the panavision camera idea more since it fits more and the fact the the suits lacked the horrid mouth disfigurement that she had (prolly would be too on the nose/not marketable for jupes)
@@shinobu8789 I have also seen that theory, but I don’t think Jupe nor Jordan Peele would make it look like the actress because it might seem like he was making fun of her, y’know?
@@shinobu8789 Really? I got the opposite vibe from her. It seemed like he was very compassionate towards her and that she was excited to be involved and happily waving to the crowd. I’d definitely be open to the design of the alien faces resembling her but I do feel like the appeal of Jupe is partially that he IS still compassionate for others while also being a self-centered showman.
@@charlottedawn2482 This. To me, the costumes and the toys like chimps. They look nothing like her. I don't think he would invite his "first crush" to friends and family day of his new show if he made the aliens look like her. As you said, she waved to the audience. She was happy to be there and to support Jupe.
Fun fact: in Brazil the movie's title was translated to "No! don't look", which ties nicely to the whole not looking at the creature thing.
"Here in Brazil is "Não, não olhe" it's like, dont look."
Just had to confirm lol I never knew that. That's interesting!!
Also- when Jean Jacket opens up, it reminds me of a cat fluffing up. Like it recognizes OJ as a predator. OJ is the first thing it hasn’t just been able to eat and he’s hurt it. That’s why I believe OJ lives at the end. Jean Jacket is ultimately afraid of OJ and can’t look HIM in the eye.
I thought it was more like a Peacock that was trying to entice them to look at it so it can go eat them.
@@stevenmccallum4268 yeah same
@@stevenmccallum4268 Agreed. It's what causes them all to look, so it worked.
That's what I thought. It's a defensive mood of sorts, especially considering JJ almost ate barbwire. I don't think it can eating in that form, it went back into saucer form to eat the balloon. (Plus they made a point to show the flags are still attached to Lucky.)
@@stevenmccallum4268 I think its both since it cant eat as the beauty, only as the sauser
once you guys mentioned the Wizard of Oz stuff it just clicked to me that in the gordy scene, we saw a pair of legs from someone laying on the ground sticking out from behind the couch, like how the wicked witch of the west looks after being crushed by a house. and little jupiter keeps the shoe (which has a spot of red on it) that was previously worn by the attacked lady
Wow, thats actually really interesting! Good insight
Holy crap! On a somewhat unrelated note, does that mean there are other characters that have parallels to the wizard of oz? Is Holst more of a cowardly lion or a tin man? Or would angel be the tinman Because his heart is broken?
@@bondfall0072 "Holst" means woodsman, so the Tin Woodsman probably ;).
@@bondfall0072 Angel is the scarecrow, although the name doesn't check out. But he wants to use his mind, and show that he's intelligent. Much as Holst wants to feel something again.
@@bondfall0072 So ... which sibling is Dorothy and which the lion? I think [not-aunty] Em needed to find her courage, and OJ wanted to go home.
I timed the "In a little less than hour..." line tonight on my second watch through. It was 58 minutes. A little less than an hour.
I watched Kat Blaque's Nope video recently and she brought up another interesting aspect for the shoe - it plays on the old saying "waiting for the other shoe to drop" and it finally does for Jupe when he is the one who tries to control/tame the beast.
KAT BLAQUE DID A VIDEO ON NOPE???????
James: "Jordan Peele's movies never make you feel stupid."
Me: _feeling stupid now hearing all of the seemingly obvious callbacks to the theme of animal behavior and the exploitation of tragic events and images_
I think they mean that some films are deliberately hard to understand. Jordan Peele puts everything in there for you, but you might not get it all on first viewing
Yeah I totally didn't get any of that while watching it and I do feel stupid that I didn't. But that's why we have James and Chelsea to explain it to us :)
I think the reason the internal shot of the alien digesting the people is disturbing to me is because of the young people (the teenagers and the kids) are put in harms way and ultimately killed because of the actions of those hellbent on spectacle rather than actually making sure than safety measures are in order. This is probably me reaching to far, but it also fits well into the themes throughout the story that children and teens in Hollywood and even social media are robbed of their lives because of the actions of adults. Swallowed, digested, and spat out before even getting the chance to determine what they want outta life to begin with.
Not to mention kids are forced to make pretty big choices at the age of 12
I’ve heard plenty of tales of family channels that abuse their kids for the sake of views, both on and off screen. More mistreatment in the name of spectacle. You may well be onto something here, dude.
Here's something absolutely neat. A prayer (the praying mantis blocking the camera) literally caused Angel to watch over the house.
good eye!
Very cool
Nobody seems to have made this connection but when Holst talks about the ‘dream’ to Emerald, he’s practically describing how he dies.
“Up on a mountain, all eyes on you.” He had to get to the crest of the mountain to get the monster’s attention.
“It’s the dream you never wake up from.”
He dies trying to film the monster.
I got to watch Nope, alone, in an empty theater, and BOY HOWDY was that an experience. I think having not having a crowd helped me see a side to this film that might go overlooked- Which is isolation. There is such a presence of nothing while on the farm, it is a ranch in the desert, and OJ has so many scenes alone, not by choice mind you. His isolation remind me of the scene when we realize the cloud Jean Jacket is in hasn't moved for hours while all other clouds have passed by, kinda like how OJ seems stuck in place after his father's death, and how every other character is moving towards a point they can't achieve. Idk, like Chelsea said during this episode, I may be reading to much into it.
just had the same experience. I think it's the way the movie needs to be seen- alone, with zero distractions. Really captures the atmosphere.
@@gableprescott7405 yep, now that its on digital its reallllly creepy
that sounds terrifying omg
The one thing Nope did really well was keep my anxiety high almost the entire time and the abduction scene is one of the most haunting scenes I’ve ever seen in a movie
Even when the last act wasn’t so scary/horror, there was still anxiety since you had no idea just how expendable the side characters, much less when OJ has thats elf-sacrificing moment, you just had no idea what was going to happen
I had to skip alot of the beginning because i was too creeped out (managed to see the key points though) but i was ok when they revealed the alien was like a wild animal, made me wayyyy less creeped out
One theme I clocked was the monetization of trauma as a means to make it 'mean' something. Both Jupe and The Haywoods want to make a spectacle out of Jean Jacket to try to cope with/overcome traumatic experiences. The only difference is that Jupe oversteps courtesy of his inexperience with the natural world and gets his comeuppance for it. It could also be seen as an allegory for trauma itself. There's no beating it, just the formation of an 'agreement' with it.
yeah i definitely felt like it was smth like thi. esp since jupe was also monetizing his own trauma (collecting merch and selling out the store for tourists)
Another theme is trying to tame animals or really anything that isn't meant to be tamed. Getting the horses and Gordy to act for one example, and Jupe making a deal with Jean Jacket.
Another thing is the value of material over life. This plays a part in the Gordy being utilized and treated as an object of hollywood on set like most people treat animals in show business for monetary gains. This correlates with the Alien when they perceived it as an object at first(UFO) like Jupe using it for his own gains and realized that it actually is living organism. Ironically it spits out inorganic matter where it is pretty much alluding to valuing life over materials which opposes human values over material than life.
Each character’s name has meaning
O. J.- Otis J.r and his father name means Son of Ode(lyrical poem) and also means “wealth” as a German name which is ironic being as though Otis Sr was killed by nickel going through his eye.
Em- Emerald’s name is obviously the name of a illustrious gem however the symbolism behind an Emerald is based solely on sight and future vision in some cultures. Take Colombian culture they view emeralds as conduits for clairvoyance, premonitions, etc. Chelsea even mentioned the wizard reference of wearing emerald glasses to view the city in green. This correlates with the movie being as though sight plays big part of the movie’s plot; they don’t look at the creature so that they won’t upset it. Another correlation is the creature’s eye is square and green like how most emeralds are cut.
Jupe- Jupe being his nick name I’m assuming full nickname is Jupiter which is a gigantic gas planet that is named after the roman god of sky. This correlates with the creature being a sky dweller and able to use nimbus clouds to camo itself. Another thing is that planet Jupiter is known to have a gigantic “eye” of storms on its surface which plays in the sight of spectacles theme of the movie.
Angel- His name is clearly a reference to Angels in christianity. Angels were known as messengers and watchers which plays into his last name Torres which means towers which could reference how he was watching over the Haywoods from the cameras on high grounds. This correlates with the Creature being referenced as an Angelic-esque being who was watching from the skies.
Antler Holst- Antler’s name seems easy to comprehend like obviously his name is the name of a structure of horns on deers, moose, and other cervid relatives. However the old french meaning of the word “Andouiller” state of being before the eyes. Another eye reference in a name, he’s a camera man that catches the impossible shot before his eyes(the camera is always before his eyes).
The fact that people paid him to sit in that museum of trauma made me ill...
I think that the reason Holst films while he’s being eaten is that, while society doesn’t deserve the impossible shot, he wants it. It’s one for him, not for us. It’s the thing he wants to shoot and what the studio does not deserve. That’s why he says, I’ll do one for me, not for them- something along those lines.
I immediately felt that OJ was neurodiverse when he's speaking in front of the set crew, Daniel's acting made me instantly sympathetic to his character, I was so relieved when Emerald shows up to save him. So many people can put themselves in his shoes when it comes to speaking and eye contact. Just really touching even if him being on the spectrum isn't intentional.
Also I wish I would've taken notes because I saw the movie twice, but the cinematographer going through all the footage of animals sent my mind off in all different directions. Most of the animals shown are considered predators, there's focus shots on all of their eyes, close up. But also most of the clips are of two predators duking it out. And some incredibly weird looking scenarios like the giant snake defeating and eating a tiger. Obviously he's made a career off these "impossible shots" but his footage is gruesome, off-putting and honestly sad, no one wants to believe a tiger could be defeated by a snake much less WATCH it be consumed. I think it's made him cynical and maybe he's even had to do some unethical movie shit that put those animals in harm's way for profit. Who knows, but I think he was willing to sacrifice himself for THE shot, even if he has the sense to warn Emerald about the pursuit of fame. Very good character imo, hasn't left my mind!
emerald and oj adhd and autism solidarity
I just want to say, thank you to everyone on Dead Meat. My little cousin showed me this channel a year or two ago and I have been hooked. More importantly this channel has brought us closer together, we find ourselves captivated by horror movies and now we ritualistically make plans to see the next horror movie that interests us. After seeing Nope in theaters this past week I couldn't help but reflect on the movie (because there are so many layers to a Jordan Peele film) but also how the relationship with my cousin has strengthened just because of this channel. The team at Dead Meat has made us more consciousness about cinema. This channel has had an impact on me as person that words simply can't do it justice. James and Chelsea I hope you find this comment. You are both wonderful people and I hope one day my cousin and I can finally meet you to thank you in person.
This is so sweet to read! Thank you for the kind words ❤️
@Dead Meat hey will you guys have Keke Palmer and the rest of the cast on and talk about their favorite scary movies? She was in Scream Queens btw so it’d be cool to talk about that. And you guys should talk about season 2 of Chucky in a future discussion before it comes out
Thank you, sincerely. Such a lovely comment ❤️
I also love the discussion of OJ being on the autism spectrum! im autistic myself and i thought the whole time "its really cool we have a lead with social anxiety or neurodivergence of some sort" and we got out and my mom said "so are you going to say he was autistic?" before i had even thought of it. but its so obvious now. regardless of if this gets confirmed its clear he was intended to have some kind of neurodiversity and positive representation is always important and rare, but especially for black characters and leads. I especially love that the "solution" to the problem in the crux of the movie IS his neurodivergency/directly related, the eye contact.
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Wait, I so t get it. Just bc he doesn't make eye contact with the alien and horses he's autistic? Social anxiety I can see, but not autism.
I was thinking that too. I saw Em potentially being ADHD
@@Vincisomething Adhd Em and Autistic OJ is so cool.
@@Vincisomething that wasn't their point, their point is oj being neurodiverse is a positive plot point
I love how Gordy and Jean Jacket both operate on the “don’t look at me” rule. While it might appear as if Jupe was spared because he had a connection with Gordy, the reality is he was protected from looking him in the eyes by the table cloth that separated them
lesson, starring in the eyes of an wild animal is a death sentence
And the shoe. Kept his attention.
I like to think that OJ and jean jacket mirror the flying purple people eater song antler sings. " I won't eat you cuz you're too tough."
He was staring at the shoe, instead of the ape which is what saved him, and why he kept the shoe. It's also another reason for the "bad miracle" explanation. He thought that he had a connection with the ape and that's why he was spared but it was actually because he was staring at the shoe. He thinks he's special so he's not afraid of the ship. He thinks it's trying to communicate when in reality, it's just hungry and doing what it does naturally.
He doesn't understand or respect animals, which is why he's willing to feed horses to it. Because of this, he dies.
the abduction scene will be in my head for years. That was absolutely terrifying, and maybe a top 5 movie Scream of all time.
It gave me fire in the sky vibes in the scariest way possible lol
@@bryannothem1505 No doubt! When Travis gets abducted and wakes up in that pink jelly like substance
I agree, the fact you know that they are screaming WHILE being digested, and it is slow, knowing that he flies while they are still screaming, Jesus
Yeah that’s nope
@@bryannothem1505 TOTALLY
(spoilers) the moment that chilled me to my core, was when jean jacket killed those people and drenched the house in blood. The silence and the red coming over the house, ugh I felt so terrified, bc to me that was jean jacket warning them. Which shoes how much of a predator it is. I loved it!
It's crazy how at all times Jean Jacket knows where they live and at any point in time it could attack. One of the questions I had was why JJ waited as long as it did, seemingly watching them the entire time except for when it "attacked" and killed the dad
Same!! I love how - to my mind - that scene’s such a literal interpretation of the quote at the start of the film. They try to take their initial shots of JJ, but fail, and in return JJ quite literally shits on their house (“cast abominable filth” lol), making them a ‘spectacle’ to the audience. Fantastic scene and overarching themes/narratives.
@@GoodyBadApple omg I didn't think of that and that totally matches I love how much depth there is to every scene in this movie
Just watched the movie and, after that scene, my friend said; "man it's gotta smell like shit now"
Its literally a blood bath
Just as an aside on how accurately they portrayed Jean Jackets animalistic behavior:
I read around on Reddit and some other articles that Jean Jacket unfurling to it's full size is referred to as Deimatic Behavior in squids, when they feel threatened or outmatched they unfurl and extend all their tentacles to make themselves bigger. There's this idea even that JJ started viewing the Haywood's as a threat. It's timid and hides inside a cloud for hours at a time and has had the everliving shit kicked out out of it's digestive system by the Haywood's. It knows that they can kill it and even when it's trading glances during the final standoff, it isn't moving. It's standing still cautiously waiting for someone to make the first move. Its acting like an alpha predator, but in reality Jean jacket seems pretty scared. It adds an interesting element of both realism and tragedy to the whole movie that I love.
I don’t know if it’s called the same, but I‘ve been watching a lot of tarantula videos, and they do the same thing. They prefer to run, but if there is no immediate exit they will rear up, stretching their front legs, and bare their fangs. Heck, you can even see that in us humans, straightening up, spreading arms, and going loud.
It’s a pretty great survival reaction, trying to bluff your way out of a threatening situation. You’re trying to be perceived as the bigger threat in the room.
@@ArDeeMee I think the most amusing but common example is cats/kittens, when they puff up, the classic Halloween cat isn't an angry cat but a scaredy cat
I know everyone mentions the chimp and abduction scene as the scariest, however I feel like the Sunglasses at Night scene is extremely haunting and eerie.
That, and when Atlers singing Flying Purple People Eater. Michael Wincott's voice is so deep, it gave me chills.
Some things I noticed in the movie that weren’t mentioned:
After the cameras are installed. Angel shows them the cloud that doesn’t move and OJ says “I’ve probably stared at that cloud every day for the past 6 months” which is the time frame in which Otis senior died. Showing that OJ stopped keeping his head down and looked up to the sky. Maybe to say every day is a miracle. That same moment also shows that until it’s presented to us we could be staring something in the face forever and not even notice it until it’s considered a spectacle or something worthy of our attention.
The second thing I noticed was that every animal with a named title card dies before the next name appears except Lucky. I’m the beginning when they are on set the actress asks OJ the horses name. When he says lucky she asks “well is he?” And he quickly responds “yeah” before calling Emerald over. In the end of the movie it’s left ambiguous if OJ lives in his attempt to distract Jeanjacket so emerald can get away but I believe that the lesson is because he saved lucky from jupiters claim earlier and lucky is indeed lucky he survives. If he didn’t care or respect his horses and save lucky when it mattered then he would have used a different horse in that scene and died.
Those are my opinions/take aways
6 months is also how long Jupe had been feeding horses to Jean Jacket
Also, OJ's general proficiency with handling animals likely saved him, holding eye contact and establishing his dominance likely made Jean Jacket back down. Also, the last stationary horse JJ devoured got lodged in it's throat and caused it great pain.
Yeah, Lucky is one of the Haywood's better trained horses. He does not panic when JJ was snatching Jupe and his audience up, and he does not panic when JJ was unfurling itself for a final showdown. We have seen Haywood's other horses being snatched by JJ by now, ALL of them panicked and ran which I am sure what triggered JJ's feeding cue.
If OJ does not bring Lucky for the final confrontation, he will 100% died to JJ because the horse WILL panic and either dislodge OJ or ran from the massive creature with OJ on, both will result in the same outcome of JJ eating OJ because it is expecting him to react.
I do wonder if that in the Kill Count of Nope (which I think will definitely happen once it's out for Blu-Ray), James should decide on adding all deaths. Not just human, but any animal death shown. I think it would work as a subtle nod towards the message of respecting animals and their nature.
I could definitely see a little counter/piece of the pie chart for the horses and Gordy.
Like a 2nd counter for horses, gordy, and jean jacket.
It's also cool how the movie's central characters are film workers in areas the public and media view as "not as glamorous" compared to directing and acting. The Haywoods are animal handlers and trainers, Holst is a cinematographer (a job that's become more recognized in recent years, but Johnny Everyman isn't gonna know what that is still), and Angel is more of a catch-all in film tech with how he helps set up the surveillance and tech troubleshooting. Just a fun little detail
As a creature designer, i absolutely ADORED Jean Jacket's design. Easily one of the most iconic monsters in the last few years. It's not just the twist itself and the mix of beauty and horror in it; but its mechanics as well. It all ties back to the fact that the classical "flying saucer" is essentially the camouflage of a flying apex predator. Many times throughout the story you see it making all this impossible manuevers throughout the farm field, in reference to UFOs usually breaking the rules of gravity and speed. Well, in this movie, it is explained by it being basically a sentient ballon - which is entirely comprised of air sacks of some sort except for that one geometrical joint in the middle of it made out of ribbons (it is up to anyone's interpretation if its either its brain or an eye or both). This allows it to basically inflate itself from within and because its hollow, it can regulate the air that comes in it and by doing so propulse itself or float at will. Thats also why it can create clouds as a form of camouflage as well: it can absorb the water particles in the atmosphere and condense them through it sacks and then keep it around itself.
I liked also how its got not only personality, but the design itself has a sort of sense of humour. Usually, you would expect a creature like this to have some sort of recognizable feature from earth... yet it doesn't. The only geommetrycal thing in its body is that one square shape, which isnt even solid and it's a set of ribbons whichapart from the brilliant symbolism of it being basically a camera lens, works similar to how some birds or sea creatures have defense mechanisms to either hypnotize their prey or confuse their predators (as to what of both could it be... again it is for everyone to decide).
Correction, the person who was mauled by Travis the Chimp was NOT his owner, but his babysitter. She was holding his favorite Elmo toy and that in combination with the anxiety the Xanax gave him made him go crazy and attack her.
I always interpreted the alien being named Jean Jacket as Emerald's new "horse" as the plan to take a picture of it was originally her plan and I think her getting the oprah shot is the closure she needed for never being able to train the real Jean Jacket herself.
A connection bolstered by OJ’s “I see you” gesture
But alsojean jacket couldn't be tamed
Same, JJ was hers to train and she got them. Reason why OJ named it JJ
As a person who’s on the spectrum… I too noticed a lot of traits in the OJ character, I was wondering if Jordan was intending on that.
So did I! I'm autistic and my brother has ADHD and we're both very OJ and Em, respectively, haha.
im not on the spectrum as we know of, but i did immediately think oj seemed some sort of neurodivergent. i got the idea from his eye contact thing, and the way he talked and acted just solidified that to me. thinking about it more after the movie makes me think it must have been on purpose
Being neurodivergent myself, I got a little excited by the nuances from OJ and was like, "he's just like me!"
While I'm not neuordivergent myself, I noticed the certain traits as well as was so happy. It's nice to see lead characters who are different! They shyness of his character was pretty relatable to me, It can be hard for me to speak up with i'm around a lot of strangers and others are more assertive.
Just saw it and I had the same thoughts!! I immediately recognised the looking downward possibly to avoid eye contact in the first scene and like, thirteen different situations I’ve been in like tht came to mind lmao
The Star Lasso scene from beginning through the audience being swallowed is JUST about 6 minutes and 13 seconds long.
Also, the Gordy segment of the movie from the title card right up to the shot of older Jupe with his thousand yard stare is a little over 6 minutes and 13 seconds.
Y'all got the story of Travis the chimp a little wrong, it's even more terrifying. The person that was mauled by Travis wasn't Travis' owner, it was a friend of the owner. When Travis melted down, Travis' owner called a friend over and that friend that came to help further triggered Travis after Travis saw her holding one of his favorite toys.
And it was an Elmo
I feel bad for Travis as much as the friend. Obviously what happened to her was horrible, but I feel that most people read the story and only hear how vicious chimps can be and not what conditions set them off in the first place.
He was also given drugs.
And then the owner had the nerve to get another chimp! That whole story is so horrific from the very start to the end.
@@jackroberts2704 Chimps do the worst things you can imagine to other primates in the wild. It's probably best if we just leave them out there and keep our distance.
When Antlers Holst says "~you dream of being on top of the mountain with all eyes on you, but thats the dream i never wake up from" its the foreshadowing his own death, on top of the mountain with Emerald's, OJ's, Angle's and the "alien's" eyes on him
I think Ant going into Jean Jacket is another "One for them, one for me" situation.
It also makes me wonder if the pills were something like cancer medication, as if something that is eating him from the inside. Combined with the animal footage it's very "This is the circle of life, we are all just food for the next creature".
I definitely read the pills as some kind of cancer medication and that he decided to go out on his own terms.
Pretty badass to purposefully get eaten by an alien just for the novelty lmao
@@buckyhurdle4776 *for the once-in-a-lifetime footage
=)
I think the reason Em interrupted Jupe and asked him where he got the fake horse first, It's for her can answer "Oh me too, what a coincidence" later
And I think Jupe sensed her intentions, which is why he replied "I don't know"
Smart move for both of them
Spoilers
The twist that the UFO was actually a wild animal instead of a space ship was pretty cool.
It’s not even an alien movie!!! I love it!
Ikkk! The whole concept of the alien was so so cool, the scene where em and angel were trapped in the house
So crazyy
There's also that fridge horror about Jean Jacket being a territorial animal, because it implies there's potentially something worse than it for it to be so aggressive
@@Sm0k3turt I mean, technically it is? Just because it isn’t a flying saucer doesn’t negate the possibility that Jean Jacket is extraterrestrial in nature.
@@willmiester4051 also true. It doesn’t confirm nor deny anything and I love that ambiguity actually
When the balloons pop and Gordy starts acting out, the cast says “Gordy, no, no.” two times just like that before realizing theyre no longer in control. That loss of dominance and another species holding all the attention in the room is terrifying to me.
The way the actors acted nervous already gave this sense of unease like they didnt trust him, it was a fantastic sequence. The way Peele doesnt show all of it made me fill in some grizzly pictures in my head and i hate him for that haha.
As someone that used to browse pictures of gore on the internet as an endurance test seeing how many pages I could sift through, I can’t deny I have a curiosity to look at disturbing and violent things. Im out of that edgy phase by now but I bring that up because I feel like Jordan Peele is the first filmmaker to set up a fictional tragedy and make me not want to see a tragic event take place, any other time I’m like “oh i wanna see that accident or attack i hope they show a flashback” but Jordan Peele made me *afraid* to see it. And again, when we do eventually get that flashback it is telegraphed perfectly.
I also think my entertainment through looking through these gore pages as a kid is tied to Nope’s themes of America being obsessed with violence and their desensitization to it. Jordan Peele knows we want to see certain violence unfold and plays around with that while making commentary on it at the same time. I’m not sure if he’s critiquing it yet or just pointing it out yet, but another example is that you can find this chimp attack 911 call on any “disturbing real life phone call” list, and I feel like that incident was just another one of thousands of tragic cases that spread around the watercooler and even talked about on Oprah (the movie also mentions an oprah shot which is why i think Peele tied this incident into the story on purpose) and that is what i mean in america finding spectacle in mass incidents. I heard about that case as a kid from my grandma and have been afraid of chimps ever since. For JP to tap into something I found so scary from the intake of news and media, it adds a personal layer of appreciation to Nope, because I’m not sure if others will find these ideas as effective as I did.
Anyway i have to admit i posted this before even finishing the episode but I was excited to start discussing. Great episode and cant wait to learn more theories about this masterpiece.
Very well said. I was freaked out by the first scene.
@@StopmotionSamurai I avoided most trailers and theories and was surprised the film opened with that, horrified actually lol
2009. That’s when the real life incident happened. I don’t remember the names of the women involved ; but there is a 911 call from the owner of 180 lbs male chimp attacking her friend . ‘He’s killing her!’ Is what I remember from that horrifying call. The woman that was attacked actually survived, and has had several surgeries to repair her face. The owner passed away some years ago.
Yes, when I saw that scene in the cold open, that is where my brain went to.
I was a zookeeper for 15 years . I worked in our zoo nursery with Chimps , Gorillas, and Orangutans. Male Chimps terrified me the most. Even young ones. I remember one at 3 years old that I made it a point to stay away from. All that came flooding back in that scene. The scariest in the movie!
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i seemed to mix different incidents together. but i love your reply, your fear is so valid, i feel like i would have been the same way with certain species as an animal keeper. Im too paranoid of a person to even turn my back on an animal like that.
Not only is NOPE my favorite Jordan Peele movie, it's my favorite film of the year thus far. It captured that feeling I can only imagine JAWS did in the 70s. It was genuinely terrifying, heartfelt, funny, and just a genuinely gorgeous and stunningly epic blockbuster that juggles multiple genres & themes without wavering whatsoever!
SPOILERS AHEAD!
One thing about the film that just blew me away on rewatching it a 2nd time was how the opening credits has the audience slowly moving further into Jean Jacket's eye/face, because JJ's design is wildly unsettling and so effing brilliant! Jean Jacket was a watcher of its own, too.
At the beginning of the film, us, the film audience, stare in confusion, horror, and curiosity and are eventually pulled into Jean's stomach, exactly like the audience at the Star Lasso Experience.
Just like them, we didn't know any better. We didn't know we weren't supposed to look at it because we came to the theater for a spectacle, and obviously you wouldn't look away right as the show is getting started.
This is Jordan Peele's ingenious way of proving that if we were put into the same situation, we would meet the same fate as that poor audience.
@@airo2theknee846 Underated comment.
A couple details I noticed on rewatching (MAJOR SPOILERS AHEAD):
- on the MAD magazine cover with Gordy, Heaven’s Gate is also mentioned as something the issue is poking fun at.
- in Jupe’s little Gordy museum, there’s a t-shirt on the wall over his shoulder with the names of several NASA ships, including the Challenger. For younger folks, the Challenger was a ship that exploded during launch in the 1980s-and the explosion was broadcast live on television. My best friend also pointed out that he’s pretty sure the mom in the sitcom is modeled after Christa McAuliffe, an astronaut who died in the Challenger explosion. (would love confirmation from the actress/costume designers on this!)
- in the sitcom opening, the dad is dressed as the Empire State Building, possibly a nod to the original King Kong.
- When Em finally boots up the electric bike, you can see the letters EVA on the dashboard. Considering the fact that Jean Jacket is based on the angels from Evangelion, there’s no way that’s not a reference.
- TMZ dude’s helmet looks almost exactly like that VFX ball.
- This may be a stretch, but Antlers taking the camera with him into the maw of the beast reminded me hugely of a Japanese horror movie called Occult, directed by Shiraishi Koji. In Occult, Shiraishi plays himself, filming a documentary about the aftermath of a sensational public stabbing. His investigation leads him to someone who plans to carry out a suicide bombing. I don’t want to spoil the whole movie for everyone, but those who have seen it will probably understand why Antlers taking the camera with him reminded me of the ending of Occult.
I TOUGHT ABOUT OCCULT TOO!!!!
Also, when Oj goes to get lucky back there is a pig on the roof that didnt get eaten, because pigs can't look up
And Jupe's design for the aliens has the head of the cameras that were filming when the Gordy accident happened, and the body of a chimpanzee
Jigoku da
I think the TMZ dude's helmet being exactly like the VFX ball is what makes OJ realise he can't save him (soz if they bring that up, I haven't finished the whole podcast yet)
The cinematography on this film was insane. I also thought the way you could hear the victims screams as Jean Jacket took them was chilling. Jordan Peele's movies are fun to rewatch because you can see things that you missed on first view.
Agreed Jordan Peele is amazing
I loved Nope, my friend group was divided on it, but I was never bored watching it and love Jordan Peele's direction. If I had to rank his films it would go: 1. Us 2. Nope 3. Get Out, but they're all amazing
Get Out last? Sheeesh!
@@IJohnSmith Haha last place for Peele's films is still top tier genre filmmaking
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Us as number one? That's a surprise. For me, it's Get Out, Nope, Us.
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I don't remember the exact wording of the line, but my favorite "title drop" of all time, even if it wasn't intended this way, was when Em and OJ were talking
"Is there a word for a bad miracle?"
"Nope."
I also particularly enjoyed when the actress asked OJ what the horse's name was, and when he answered "Lucky" she asked "Is he though?"
Antler is also hinted at being sick through his coughing and use of pills, this could be a reason he doesnt really care if he dies or not and is trying to get that impossible shot to bring peace to himself rather than actually capturing the spectacle of the alien.
I had the same thought and me and my cousin kept talking about that idea.
I noticed the pills and pointed it out to my sister.
Chelsea's reading on JJ spitting out all things humans use in our lives and how when humans make a spectacle of animals, they symbolically spit out all the things that make then what they are is such S+ tier level of analysis
Incredible podcast
This was one of the scariest movies I've ever seen but it showed incredible restraint. The horror was in what you didn't see it was in the sound design and the claustrophobia. I loved it
He found a way to make up unable to look away....even if you close your eyes, you FEEL the impact through the sounds. It forced me to watch it because the scene without sight made it so much worse cause my imagination filled the gaps
The part where the ship is eating those people is probably one of the most chilling moments I’ve ever seen, it sticks with you just like the Gordy scene. The blood on the house too is where it sinks in that Keith David’s character was killed when the predator ufo was basically regurgitating things it could not consume.
Not my own thoughts, saw this on Twitter, but Logan Paul (Mr. Spectacle himself) didn't understand the movie about spectacle was the pinnacle of irony. That being said, I had thoughts about this movie like 2 or so weeks ago when it was released, but since then have forgotten them entirely. But I really enjoyed it, the second act with Steven Yeun's plot had me the most enthralled and my god those Gordy scenes, my GOD!
I remember hearing about his comments but I agree about the irony. He is the same guy that filmed a dead body in a know suicide forest for youtube. The movie also speaks of messed up morals too. I never once realized how terribly ironic of Logan Paul even though he has a right to his opinion.
The Gordy scenes were VISCERAL! It made me sick but I couldn't look away no matter how bad. The impact, her cries
Does anybody notice that when James mentions that Ricky’s line about “in one hour, your life will change” (paraphrase) comes with 1 hour of running time in the movie, there is almost one hour of time left in this episode as well?? 🤯
I went from 'this movie is okay ' to 'it's a good movie' after this. Definitely a need to watch it more than once movie.
My thoughts exactly. Gonna get it on BD to rewatch it
Yeah, going through all the comments and seeing just how deep all the foreshadowing goes is astounding.
Regarding how Steven Yeun's character treats his trauma, I think that he spent most of his young life and career compartmentalizing smaller traumas that come with being a child actor. He learned that he should at least make some money off it and so it makes sense that when he goes through this horrible incident with the chimp, his response as an adult is to profit off it.
Do you think the family was in on it? It'd be hard to hide a beast that size
Holy shit. The Oprah references also ties to the real Oprah interview about the lady who was attacked by the 200lb chimp
Yeah, it feels closely connected to the whole theme of spectacle at high cost, seeking for that “Oprah shot” being closely associated to its demanded danger
Loved your review. The form Jean Jacket took at the end reminded me of animals who puff themselves up and seem much bigger when they're defensive or aggressive. It was Jean Jacket at its most PO'd. And the shoe... I thought it was something mundane, like it fell against something unseen to us which gave it the illusion of floating (and it was just like Jupe to ascribe mystical powers to the shoe in that moment). One of my favorite parts was when Daniel Kaluuya's character nopes on back into the pickup truck and locks the truck door on Jean Jacket. Cracked me up. Classic.
When Emerald gives her safety talk she says great twice referring to her grandfather and OJ says “great” letting her knows there’s another great. This might be seen as just a funny throw away, but before Ottis died he would given the safety talk at every gig (this is confirmed as we hear it in a tape later) and Emerald and OJ having been present at presumedly a lot of those she would have just taken exactly what Ottis said. And it makes sense as Ottis would’ve only needed to say “great” twice because there isn’t that extra generation yet. Cool little detail I thought.
EDIT: They mention this at 1:28:20
yeah i notied that too! later when emerald is watching an old tape of their father doing the spiel he says two “greats” so i can imagine she has replayed and listen to that tape a lot and it stuck in her head that way
I thought they did that because it was eventually gonna be revealed that the guy actually wasn't related to them and that whole story was just something Keith David's character made up.
I finally watched this movie yesterday and loved it so I had to come back and watch this episode.
Something that stood out to me, with the theme of exploitation and the spectacle, is how it almost teases this idea of showing us the spectacle of things.
It teases what happened on the sitcom, giving us that sense of wanting to see the event itself as an audience. While we get shown it, it's all from a limited view and the actual things an audience would want to see (the cast being attacked, killed, maimed, etc) is all done out of frame. It sticks us firmly in the POV of Jupe for most of the time we spend in that moment. Or we merely see the moments before and the aftermath.
Even the people being "abducted" or eaten as we later learn is kind of a tease of the spectacle. We would want to see the aliens, find out what they're doing to people, or see them get eaten and digested. Yet it does the exact same thing. It shows us enough to give a sense of what's happening, but it never shows it actually happening. Much like the Gordy incident, we only see the moments before and the aftermath, as JJ spits out all the inorganic matter.
But the film denies the audience the actual "payoff" of seeing the entire thing happen on both accounts.
I just thought it was really interesting how the theme of exploitation and the spectacle parallels with the movie never showing us the "spectacles" a horror movie usually would.
This movie subverted my expectations from the trailers tremendously. Made it even more of an enjoyable watch.
God I think the scene when they’re inside the monster is just straight horrifying, of the horror movies I’ve watched that shit haunts me, and I’m not sure why…
Over time this movie's rating has continuously gone up for me, I love the themes it tackles, the fantastic acting, the gorgeous cinematography, and the amazing writing. The religious parallels with the monetization of trauma make it a very critically distinct film, and Jupe is one of my favourite characters in a movie ever. He is a direct example of the theme itself, with him choosing to profit over his trauma instead of properly coping, eventually leading to the death of the people at the fair because of his innate desire when confronted with a dangerous beast (which he had with gordy, another flesh-eating monster, that ended with a semi-friendly encounter) was to profit off it.
As someone who is on the spectrum myself I related a lot with OJ and Emerald. They’re sort of the two halves of my mind. When I’m embarrassed by my parents vamping about me or I’m in a cringey conversation I tend to act more reserved like OJ, but when I’m having a nice conversation or hanging out with my friends I tend to act more like Em.
I was at a funeral today, and the vibes have been very off all day, but seeing the notification of this videos upload has genuinely made me light up, keep up the good work guys ❤
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if it helps for when Em and OJ steal the horse, I think Em asks where Jupe got it so she can just say that she got it from the same place. the whole “oh wow, what a crazy coincidence! I can’t believe we got two identical horses from the same place!”
Having Holst's the Planets as your favourite piece is definitely valid, James! It's literally the father of all film music, many film scores would not exist without it, its influence is everywhere, and I just wish the average person knew more than just Mars and the middle section of Jupiter! Venus and Neptune are personal favourites but they're all beautiful...
Some of the themes in Nope regarding the flawed nature of humanity’s attempts to control, well, nature, remind me of the documentary “Blackfish.” It’s about the bloody history behind SeaWorld’s orca shows, and I wonder if it served as any inspiration for Peele’s thought process with Gordy and Jupiter’s Claim.
i love how y’all explain the plots of these movies. its like i can see it all happening in my head!!
I saw this movie in IMAX the other day. (Highly recommend btw.) I haven't really stop thinking about it either.
It horrified me in a way I didn't expect.
My mom was horrified when I explained the chimpanzee scene. She actually told me she felt ill.
But the most disturbing scene for me was what I dubbed "the innards".
Was pleasantly surprised by the iconic Akira reference and seeing Fry's. That was weirdly why I wanted to see the movie. I actually went to that Fry's when I was little. It's kinda beautiful it's immortalized in a film now.
The innards was great. Probably the best inclusion in the movie. I honestly don't think I would cut out one scene in the movie
I saw someone call that "Big gulp," and that's the only way I'll ever refer to that scene
Meanwhile I'm an east coast kid who had no idea Fry's was a real place until I heard this podcast...
The movie was way, WAY more disturbing than I thought, the Gordy scene chilled me to the bone of how real it was, even without knowing that almost exact same incident happened in real life, the innards scene scarred me tho, I WAS NOT prepared for it, and I am still thinking. in my opinion- Best horror movie of the year so far.
Me and my friends literally screamed "Akira Slide!" And when we got outside we fanboying all over the place lmao
I think when the horse freaks at the shoot is more foreshadowing about the creature being territorial. Otis Sr mentions the horse being territorial, and when it sees a horse reflection of another horse looking at it, the horse gets upset.
One thing that stuck with me with me from the flashbacks was the fathers reaction vs Jupiter’s reaction. The father confronted and demanded things of Gordy while Jupiter acknowledged the strength of Gordy and rightfully respected/feared it. This aligns with the theme of man not respecting the power of nature and thinking he’s always “top dog”.
I went in expecting an alien movie, and left with a monster movie. I could not have been more satisfied.
Same it's such an amazing movie
The chimp scene was so scary that my girlfriend started crying and having a small panic attack, it was such an incredibly made scene
And the incredible thing is, it plays fair with the movie's themes by not looking directly at the carnage.
I've always thought chimps are terrifying, I've never understood how some people think they're cute.
@@kassjazzy they are extremely violent animals
I did something that I haven't done in a horror movie since I was about 8: I hunched down in my seat and held my bag in front of myself as if it could protect me.
Another thing I read into was in the scene before the TMZ guy showed up, the cinematographer sang “one eye, one horned, flying purple people eater,” and TMZs helmet made it look like he had one eye. And of course also it’s a parallel to Jean Jacket but I can also see it this way
I’m usually tough when it comes to scary movies, but the Star Lasso Experience scene made me so scared, I almost started crying like a little kid. And I’m 20
I do love how even though Em got the picture, it kind of looks like a butterfly or some sort of bug and could still look like it was fake. Also the fact that it has blown up and is just drifting through the sky, it could be mistaken for some sort of fabric
agreed with Chelsea that this is my favorite Jordan Peele movie! something about it just sticks with me more than the others... I think it's because of the idea of spectacle and how ingrained that is into our lives. I saw this definition that I think really summed it up: "Spectacles are barbaric, as they strip the autonomy and dignity of a living thing for the entertainment, amusement, and invasive curiosity of others."
like !!! my mind immediately went to family vlogs for some reason - making a spectacle of children who have no say in the matter. Of course the real-life Chimp attack or sea world shows gone wrong come to mind too for exploiting animals purely for entertainment, but man, it goes deeper than that.
Damn Chelsea is always on point. She is like a movie genius.
This was one of the rare movies that I have liked more and more the longer I think about it. And I was very glad that I left with the one thought I wish I could’ve left with after seeing Us: that I had no idea what the ‘monster’ was, where it came from, or what it wanted.
The shoe standing upright is from the old saying waiting for the other shoe to drop. When the shoe drops in such a perfect state, it's literally the other shoe. Whereas the thing that happens next in the movie after that scene is literally the horror of jean jacket eating everyone alive just like Gordy ate the cast members. It is the other shoe dropping.
Saw nope last night loved it dragged my dad and brother out and they said they didn’t want to see a dumb alien movie but they walked out the theater raving about it lmao
Awesome!!
@@DeadMeat are you gonna do a kill count for Halloween ends
@@petertassy4030 You do know he can’t until it’s out on Blu-Ray, right? Heck it’s not even out at all right now. Not until October.
@@DeadMeat woah Dead Meat reading a comment
She said it looked like a hat. I said to my wife at the theater, “I wasn’t expecting it to look like a sombrero!”
Went as saw Nope with my sister last week, had the same feeling once it ended like "eh, it was pretty good." But on the drive home me and my sister could not stop talking about it and all the themes and layers to it. Cant wait to see it again.
3:09 meeeeee. i watched it a few days ago, and i thought it was really cool, but not MINDBLOWING. then I realised how much the "lucky" chapter with the jupiter's claim scene disturbed me. now I've been guzzling content about the movie for days.
I was literally just watching a theory video where the host compared the alien to the biblical Nephilim. God, I can't wait to hear more theories
Mind telling me the theory video? That sounds very interesting
@@nickmendoza6615 it was one of Looper's videos I think, and it was less a put together theory and more of an observation that Peele started the movie with a quote from the Tanakh and it's a movie about spectical. And I like this idea that the Alien was possibly older than the ranch, if not ancient (Ancient Aliens reference from Angel) and that's why it's so territorial. Like I said, not a fleshed out theory, but I think it's a cool idea.
The NOPE subreddit pops off with a lot of theories. It’s like a goldmine of discussions
Also looks like 1960s weather balloons (roswell anyone?)
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Has a very nice explained video