Bari Weiss on How to Fight Antisemitism
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- New York Times editor and opinion writer Bari Weiss talks to Jonathan Kay about How to Fight Anti-Semitism, her 2019 book on the rise in anti-Semitism in the U.S. on the Left and the Right, and what we can do to combat it.
This episode first aired 21 September 2019 on Quillette.com quillette.com/2019/09/21/podc...
Bari Weiss is the founder and editor of The Free Press and host of the podcast Honestly. Weiss joined The New York Times in 2017 and became known for her outspoken views and critiques on issues such as free speech, political correctness, and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. In 2020, she resigned from The New York Times, citing what she described as a hostile work environment and ideological intolerance.
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this was 2019- what a difference 4 years make
I could first say I’m not jewish. Then speaking as a European, or I can be honest, speaking as a Swede, my impression is that Bari Weiss is too nice to the muslim. That said, I have perhaps more first hand experience with anti-semitic muslims than the average American has. The problem is more urgent here(?), for us it’s more of a national embarrassment and that influences how I see the problem.
Yes, and keep in mind, this was from 2019.
Jewish are safe in Maine. Move to Maine. I moved out of NYC 25 years ago and have never felt safer. Best move in my life
24:50 to 25:50 - That really is incredible.
Quillette you are the best!
The best way to fight antisemitism is probably to constantly emphasize and illuminate difference and separation between jews and all other people on earth, and to ensure that any suffering by a jew is emphasized and reported on in such a way to show that it is more meaningful and important than the suffering of other people. Also, to politically support an ethnostate which propagates homosexuality. These steps will go far towards minimizing hatred of jews worldwide.
Turkey already exists. Thailand already exists. What do you mean? Is it bad that Jews aren’t going to let Christians and Muslims get away with their bullying anymore? Yezidis and Buddhists are starting to take note…
How does said ethnostate "propagate homosexuality" when it prohibits gay marriage?
@@DaRunningMan _"How does said ethnostate "propagate homosexuality" when it prohibits gay marriage?"_
Gay marriage doesn't exist, and so like square circles it doesn't make sense to say it is "prohibited." But that aside, a nation does not need to pass schizophrenic nonsense laws to promote unproductive sodomy.
Arabs are semites too, Zionist Jews are mostly Eastern Europeans, so by definition they are not Semites and using the term antisemitism only applying it to just Jews is incorrect. One can be against the policies of the Israeli government and not against Jews, there is a difference.
It is not incorrect to use 'antisemitism', although it could be confusing for people who randomly use the term 'Semitic' a lot.; it's a well defined term. Some consider it incorrect to use 'anti-Semitism', however, because, as you pointed out, 'Semites' includes several groups of people. Zionist Jews (by which i assume you mean Israeli Jews?) are mostly Mizrahi and Sephardic, but even the European Jews are Semites. The term 'antisemitism' originates in Europe to refer to European Jews.
Who is that last statement reponding to? Everyone already knows that criticising a government is not racist (although the motivation might be); you're not clever for pointing that out.
Being anti-semitic is a religious stance that Jesus was Messiah and Anti-Jesus Jews are called anti-Christs by Christians. That’s why it is so confusing. As for the killing frenzy, you can’t say that killing people is a religious act… because « killing » in the spiritual sense mean convincing somebody else and being born again. Killing somebody physically is an abomination and always as been. Those who kill have no spirituality, they are whitewashed sepulchres… Even Jesus said that if you dare kill anybody who seek Him, you would’ve been better not to have been born, ANY of them! I guess that they don’t get it, AT ALL!!!
Ashkenazi Jews were too Semitic for pure Europeans, so they stood against the semiticization of their culture by being anti semitic. You can’t unclaimed it now, too late.
Ethiopians are semites as well, they get the land.
@@mrharpable and look what Israelis did with Ethiopian Jewish women that migrated to Israel, get injected them with the birth control medication Depo-Provera without their consent and without their knowledge. Israeli wants a predominantly white ethnostate and they will go to any length to retain that, yet when people are critical of Israel they yell antisemitism, they don’t care about Semitic Jews until it suits them and thwh they can play victim.
Arabs are not semites bc people are not semites so no European jews are not semites either. Antisemitism is specific to jewish people, always has been.
Why fight it? People don't have to like one another. I'm not a fan of Jewish culture. So what?
You ask dumb questions and nobody cares what you think. Which is why you're resigned to spending your time trolling Jews on RUclips.
Then you're woke.
@@blakewilson4762 What was the question?
@@gabenorman747 I'm a center right libertarian....
Disregard everything that Bari has ever said.
Orthodox Judaism teaches that God gave the land to only the Jews. Opposing that is NOT antisemitic!
And Islam says that land lost is still always Islamic. So let’s celebrate Israel’s secular conquering of the land and ask the Arabs to be the gracious losers, they all demand of their conquered as they demand their conquered also give up their acknowledgment and ownership of the native holy rites and spaces.
Jews aren’t trying to retake the Pale of Settlement in some holy jihad because there used to be a bunch of shtettles in the area.
Islam is terrified of decolonization and the loss of it’s empire (hajj bennies) when other native groups can look to Israel and see it can be done.
Yezidi & Kurds are a good example. Baluch in Iran. Copts and Tuareg in North Africa.
Even the Irish went back during the troubles to help fight.
@@mrharpable Look at what you wrote and replace the word Islam with the word Jew. And the word Jew with Germany. Now do you see how wrong you are?
Step 1.) Stop giving the world a reason to be anti-semetic
One of the oldest conspiracy theories: you brought it on yourself. Thanks for showing us an unscripted example!
The thought never crosses their mind...
@saraleigh5336 You guys are committing genocide in gaza right now and the whole world is watching.
@@saraleigh5336Winston churchill wrote a wonderful essay explaining how you guys do bring it upon yourself.
Nice woke logic. Hating any race is never reasonable.
Bari isn't even 40 but she is so very sharp.
As sharp as a road worn tire.
Bari Weiss was on the Joe Rogan podcast and used a word that she didn't know the meaning of and was exposed for it. It's like when someone is chatting with people and drops a fancy word, only to realize they are not exactly sure what it means. Well Bari did just that but on one of the most listened to platforms in the world. That is who you call a "very sharp" person? Please...
Ok yes antisemitism is definitely running wild rn and you can even see it in the comment section here.
However, your thumbnail suggesting that calling Benjamin Netanyahu a genocidal war criminal is somehow equivalent to blood libel is silly and intellectually dishonest lol
Bari has consistently demonstrated a clear bias in how rigorously she evaluates evidence for and against her arguments over the course of her career. Her interpretation of the left's critique of the war on terror and the framing of jeremy corban here are extremely lame strawman arguements and I would've liked to hear the host challange her more on these points.
Combatting antisemitism should be a top priority but it can not be done effectively if we aren't honest about what gets called antisemitism. There is a very reasonable argument for Bari's side on BDS but this is lost by her often hagiographical accounts of history on things like the war on terror.
The interview is around 4-5 years old. How does the thumbnail suggest anything like what you're saying? Nothing she said was dishonest, even though you may think she has a bias (bias to what you never said). If "combatting antisemitism should be a top priority" then why bother nit-picking meaningless ciriticisims someone who's actually doing something about it?
Thank you I actually missed that the video was that old and only saw that they chose now to repost it.
Regardless, none of this changes the point I am trying to argue: you should be able to call Netanyahu and his associates (including Biden) a bunch of baby killing monsters without being called an antisemite. Netanyahu has been a war criminal whose decisions have led to the indiscriminate killing of Palestinian children for quite a while now. We should be able to call any Israeli and Palestinian war criminals moral monsters without being assumed to be advancing antisemitism or islamiphobia.
To your point of her intellectual honesty, I disagree that this duo is being honest when mentioning Jeremy Corban's antisemitism, but I'll grant you that they may be honest about their opinion on the war on terror. I just think it's extremely dumb to draw parallels between critics of the war on terror discussing "blowback" and conspiracy theories like the protocols of the elders of Zion.
The decision to choose to juxtapose an image of an actually antisemitic rally next to an image of Palestinian flags and a poster of netanyahu looking like a monster functions to conflate backlash against the war in Gaza with blood libel, whether this was intentional on behalf of quilliette or not. For sure, if any ordinary Jewish or Israeli person is attached to an image like that, it would be blood libel, just as conflating any ordinary Palestinian with hamas would be deeply bigoted. However, if you are a literal war criminal, I don't think it is out of the question to characterize you in this way. Since the majority of Americans already think Netanyahu is a monster, implying they're all antisemitic only dilutes the meaning of antisemitism.
I can totally understand if someone says that I'm being too much of a postmodernist in my interpretation of quilliette's editorial decisions and respect their right to make this argument. I'm just arguing that this approach of tethering the modern state of Israel to Judaism broadly and critiques of Israel to antisemitism does not help address antisemitism. Likewise, when fringes of the pro-palestinian movement conflate critiques of Hamas with being anti-palestinian, it weakens their argument. When people argue critiques of Netanyahu are antisemitic, that weakens the meaning of antisemitism. Sure, some critics are antisemitic but many of his supporters are as well.
Just because someone is doing something doesn't make it helpful. For example, when Alan Dershowitz calls Jewish Voices for Peace "fake Jews", he's really not helping the cause of fighting antisemitism.
I appreciate the engagement and hope this helps clarify why one may find this interview and it's presentation disappointing.
I encourage people to look at Amnesty International's "Pro-human camp" for a better approach to these pressing concerns than listening to anything this flunky NYT writer has to say.
@@user-ug6vf3bx3b I assume you’ve looked into JvP. It’s not a predominantly Jewish organization (though there is cosplay at their rallies). Nor are they peaceful. They win for most ironic name ever.
Thanks for explaining the rules for blood libel. A false accusation of a Jewish leader of the only Jewish nation using a well-known antisemitic trope doesn’t count but it would for private citizens. Please clarify-why would this trope apply to Biden?
Where has there been “the indiscriminate killing of Palestinian children for quite a while.” Please elaborate.
Your interest in intellectual honesty is surprising, given your comments.
“You have surpassed all nations in impertinent fables, in bad conduct and in barbarism. You deserve to be punished, for this is your destiny.”
Oh, poor Syrian refugee could not help burn down a church on the way to seeking a better life. Naive.