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    First let me say thank you to all of my faithful supporters and friends out there. I really appreciate you guys so much!
    Update: The 5DSR does not have built in wifi. This is my mistake. It is "wifi compatible" for file transfer with the WFT-E7. I apologize for this.
    Having shot with both of these cameras now for over 6 weeks, this is the very best information I can give you about them. Ive done my best to trim down the length, but if you are serious about investing into either one of these cameras, this will be worth your time.
    Chapter List:
    02:29 - Lenses Used in Tests
    02:59 - Metabones IV Adapter with Canon Lenses
    05:05 - Rack Focus Test
    06:47 - Side-To-Side Action Servo Test
    07:07 - Forward Action Servo Test
    07:19 - Backlight Servo Test
    08:23 - Buffer Performance
    11:06 - Low Light Focusing
    12:53 - Face Detection
    15:52 - Eye Detection
    17:03 - High ISO Stills
    18:15 - High ISO Video
    20:31 - Moire
    20:57 - Rolling Shutter
    21:27 - Heat Signature Tests
    23:37 - Dynamic Range
    23:52 - Portrait Test
    26:34 - High ISO Sharpness Test
    32:10 - Things I didn't like about the Sony A7Rii
    35:17 - Conclusion
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Комментарии • 354

  • @TonyAndChelsea
    @TonyAndChelsea 8 лет назад +86

    Look at you all cinematic in that opening sequence! Great vid, Michael.

    • @petersagi275
      @petersagi275 8 лет назад +4

      +Tony Northrup Whats up with the high ISO performance in stills, Tony? I don't know which one of you to believe!! :D

    • @pentaxbro
      @pentaxbro 8 лет назад +3

      According to Dpreview and many others the Sony A7Rii has better low light capability than Canon 5Dsr!(Check the iso12800 the DP studio scene like the shoes & blue trausers in the centre of the scene in low light for example)Also If you look carefuly at your comparison images at iso 12800 you will see that Sony has focused on the hair rather than on models eye..That doesn't change however the fact the the colors of Canon are better in general and photos slightly sharper in good light.

    • @Jessehermansonphotography
      @Jessehermansonphotography 7 лет назад

      I thought the Sony was sharper. I saw the cheek issue they are talking about but the eye was OBVIOUSLY sharper on the video.

  • @Kprawl291986
    @Kprawl291986 8 лет назад +95

    The Intro got me laughing when you grab 6 sony A7RII batteries 😂

    • @MMaven
      @MMaven  8 лет назад +22

      :) you got my joke!

    • @Kprawl291986
      @Kprawl291986 8 лет назад +1

      I cannot wait for to review the new D5 and Canon 1Dx Mark II that will be ultimate stress test.

    • @supertimotije
      @supertimotije 8 лет назад +1

      +ACiD_ “Th3xRaVeNx” ReinX I know I'm 2 months late, but I'm not a subscriber, but that 6 batteries... Still laughing.

    • @EmoEmu
      @EmoEmu 8 лет назад +4

      "It funny because it's true!"
      - Homer Simpson

    • @JohnLenardWalson
      @JohnLenardWalson 8 лет назад

      i use the camera on the moon with a main power battery

  • @ComePlayWithMe
    @ComePlayWithMe 8 лет назад

    Great review ! Thanks!

  • @kennethwilliamsinc
    @kennethwilliamsinc 8 лет назад +2

    Great comparison! It's just SO crazy how far we have come with photography tech. I'm speaking coming from a film background. Now it's just basically pick what fits your style of shooting and ergonomics.

  • @mv.m.5339
    @mv.m.5339 8 лет назад +1

    This is a video that I have been so waiting for! Very extensive!

  • @NeilFiertel
    @NeilFiertel 6 лет назад

    This site is the very best technical and user oriented camera comparison that a user can make decisions from. He works very hard to really test fairly and I rarely watch all the way through most other's RUclips as they are opinionated and amateur. This one was terrific.

  • @samueldcabral
    @samueldcabral 8 лет назад +1

    This is simply great. Very extensive and detailed. Amazing video as always

  • @dayanandrahul1125
    @dayanandrahul1125 8 лет назад

    one if the best reviews I've ever seen.....detailed and executed perfectly

  • @ericwongestu5099
    @ericwongestu5099 7 лет назад

    the review i like the most, accurate and honest with proof to show to the audiences, and the most important is, coolest intro i have ever seen on camera review. Great Review !!

  • @ansontow89
    @ansontow89 8 лет назад +1

    so much effort put into making these detailed comparison. *applause*

  • @knopfman184
    @knopfman184 8 лет назад

    This is so extensive and well made, I can't imagine all the hard work you did. Although you did it without bias, I can see you're pretty excited about A7R II.

  • @blueckaym
    @blueckaym 8 лет назад +1

    Wow, that is indeed an EPIC shootout!
    I'm amazed at to what details, and methodology of measuring and comparing performances of the cameras!
    Most people can learn a LOT about photography just by watching one of your 'comparison' videos Michael!
    I'm a guy that REALLY hate cross-selling in general, but after this video I do actually consider the 'a7rII crash-course'!

  • @mikaelschulin4315
    @mikaelschulin4315 8 лет назад +1

    Best Review and comparison between the two so far.

  • @ChimedBadral
    @ChimedBadral 8 лет назад

    Thanks very much for an excellent review. Tons of good information. Looking forward to your new videos.

  • @wayne78910
    @wayne78910 8 лет назад +1

    Fantastic review , you put a lot of hard in absolutely brilliant!!!!

  • @razorback7828
    @razorback7828 8 лет назад

    Your portrait test is the most awesome thing I ever see! What a good idea!!!

  • @MarceloTezza
    @MarceloTezza 8 лет назад

    Excelent Michael! Most complete, less biased, congrats!
    highly recomended!
    liked and favorited

  • @Americannorsk1
    @Americannorsk1 5 лет назад

    Love the video Michael. Your videos are excellent. Thank you for the excellent review.

  • @harmitharmit
    @harmitharmit 8 лет назад +1

    Great videos.we appreciate your efforts! Thank you!

  • @1BigBucks1
    @1BigBucks1 8 лет назад +1

    Sweet shootout, Michael. Really informative.

  • @mohammedal-faraj123
    @mohammedal-faraj123 7 лет назад

    Great video, it is really helps me to decide which camera i have to own, thank you very much for your efforts

  • @MikeSpille
    @MikeSpille 8 лет назад

    Very well done review and comparison. Thank you so much.

  • @thomaswindfeld728
    @thomaswindfeld728 7 лет назад

    That was like the best and deeeeepet in depth video I have seen on here,,, and have seen many bu now. Thanx! :-)

  • @mobileperry
    @mobileperry 8 лет назад

    Thanks for the excellent review of both cameras, well produced and full of useful info. I'm leaning towards the 5dsr but waiting to see what canon has in the 5dmk4 whenever it's announced

  • @MrMuseMusician
    @MrMuseMusician 7 лет назад

    Thank you. Best video shootout. Amazing amount of information.

  • @justinholding02
    @justinholding02 8 лет назад +2

    At last a honest and full review, I'm glad to see that the 5DSR actually can keep up with the Sony's ISO performance, we've been hearing the opposite since the Sony was released. Seems to me the Canon is a lot more mature.

  • @topcow23
    @topcow23 8 лет назад

    Great video, I love the straight to the point but details comparison

  • @Tardonis
    @Tardonis 4 года назад +1

    Very informative , as always. Thanks

  • @beavertown2006
    @beavertown2006 8 лет назад

    Well worth the waiting. Your channel so addictive.

  • @avazara
    @avazara 8 лет назад

    Hi Michael- great tutorial! Really useful tests-especially the portrait test! Thanks so much- you do a great job!

    • @MMaven
      @MMaven  8 лет назад

      Thank you Ava!

  • @chrisaminick
    @chrisaminick 7 лет назад

    Best and most thorough camera review I've ever watched. I have a Canon 40D, which is obviously dated, and I have five expensive EF L lenses that could work on this camera with an adapter, but I'm looking for touch-screen controls, an easy to use wifi feature that works like my Note 4 does in sharing videos. Canon just introduced the 5D Mark IV, but it doesn't have an articulating screen, has low resolution, has complicated wifi, and average focus capabilities and still has anti-aliasing built in that softens images too much.
    Thanks for the great review.

  • @zaruka
    @zaruka 7 лет назад

    I went with the Canon 5DS R. This is a good review, thanks.

  • @vdan2879
    @vdan2879 8 лет назад

    Great work Michael! Super like your vids. Nobody on the tube has more info than your head to head shootouts.

    • @MMaven
      @MMaven  8 лет назад

      Thank you for your support- there are a lot of great channels out there so it means a lot to me to hear that

  • @Garabagh
    @Garabagh 8 лет назад

    Thank you for the comparison!

  • @erikpopek9357
    @erikpopek9357 8 лет назад

    Great job on this video! :D I really liked that I got to see for myself which picture I liked the most! Very original and great for us to skip the names and only look at quality! For me, the results were 6 vs 6 :)

  • @kgavero
    @kgavero 8 лет назад

    Thanks again for a thorough review. Wow, I'm surprised I selected all of the Sony pics in the blind test! I'm usually close to even on your Canon vs. Nikon tests. Maybe it's time to rent a Sony A7rii.

  • @sonnyblack4198
    @sonnyblack4198 8 лет назад

    Thank you mike great job!!!!

  • @elvis_chen
    @elvis_chen 8 лет назад

    Very nice review! Especially the real cases

  • @Grilcantino
    @Grilcantino 8 лет назад

    Excellent tutorial. Thanks.

  • @bozziovai
    @bozziovai 8 лет назад

    i just love watching your videos. thanks for all the effort ......

    • @MMaven
      @MMaven  8 лет назад

      My pleasure and thank you for your support

  • @bird271828
    @bird271828 8 лет назад

    Michael, very nice and informative video as always. I know it's not easy to make these videos. I appreciate your work.

    • @MMaven
      @MMaven  8 лет назад +1

      Thank you so much. I really appreciate it.

  • @FloatingOnAZephyr
    @FloatingOnAZephyr 8 лет назад

    An exceptional video of its kind. Personally, I'd dial down the graphics a little, but so informative and thorough.

  •  8 лет назад +3

    Awesome test!
    Can i ask you if you have a Sony with newest 2.0 firmware and if not, can this change even anything in tests?

  • @proximabear1432
    @proximabear1432 8 лет назад +1

    I waited for this review to drop before purchasing the Sony. Thanks for being so thorough and unbiased. always nice to see the facts as opposed to the opinions.

    • @MMaven
      @MMaven  8 лет назад +2

      Thank you my friend. I'm honored you waited, I really try to present the data and let my viewers come to their own conclusions.

    • @proximabear1432
      @proximabear1432 8 лет назад

      Got the camera... I am in love with it!

  • @TheIronValkyrie
    @TheIronValkyrie 8 лет назад +1

    This video is brilliant!!! You've earned a sub!

  • @chrisogrady28
    @chrisogrady28 8 лет назад +2

    I love how unbelievably tacky all the graphics are, it's like shouting I AM A MAN periodically in an otherwise civilised presentation haha. Awesome video Michael

  • @DanishSpaceman
    @DanishSpaceman 8 лет назад

    Amazingly well done review. Congrats!
    I would expect that the high iso performance would be better on the Sony and other review speak highly of the Sony metering and AWB (but maybe Canon is even slightly better). Did you try to use native Sony lenses while doing the high iso portraits? Maybe it is also worth trying the uncompressed RAW option that was just delivered in a firmware upgrade with the Sony.

  • @fabianbuschor8826
    @fabianbuschor8826 8 лет назад +1

    This is a very informative review! I was a bit surprised at the lack of sharpness in the studio scene for the Sony at high ISO. Was this a 'JPG out of camera' comparison?

  • @pentaxbro
    @pentaxbro 8 лет назад +7

    According to Dpreview and many others the Sony A7Rii has better low light capability than Canon 5Dsr!(Check the iso12800 the DP studio scene like the shoes & blue trausers in the centre of the scene in low light for example)Also If you look carefuly at your comparison images at iso 12800 you will see that Sony has focused on the hair rather than on models eye..That doesn't change however the fact the the colors of Canon are better in general and photos slightly sharper in good light.

  • @ERP_Klim
    @ERP_Klim 8 лет назад

    Got A7RII, Fantastic Camera! Can do any types of genres with it and film making as well.

  • @leonphotography1009
    @leonphotography1009 7 лет назад

    Fantastic review, thanks for the guidance. Pls I would appreciate a Sony a99ii image quality review with canon 5dsr. Good job

  • @worldsmack
    @worldsmack 8 лет назад

    That into... Was... AWESOME!!!! 😀

  • @frederik_holmgren
    @frederik_holmgren 8 лет назад +1

    Hey Michael, love the video.
    In regard to having the viewfinder function as an optical viewfinder. What I do on my A7 is that that I turn Live View Display settings to Off. Then the camera doesn't have to process the image to the viewfinder as much. On the A7 its in menu gear.2.Live View Display.
    You talked about Eye-Af being awesome for portrait shooters. I would have loved to hear your friends (the portrait guy in the video) opinion about that. :)

  • @akaiphone
    @akaiphone 3 года назад +1

    Amazing review!!! Question for you. I shoot weddings with EOS R and 5D3. 5D3 image quality is trash compared to the R and makes editing pictures hard, would you recommend the 5DSR if I can’t afford the 5D4?

  • @StargateMax
    @StargateMax 8 лет назад +2

    Those 12 comparison images... 10 out of 12 I liked A7R II before I saw the results, and that's the camera I have. :D

  • @monishbansal
    @monishbansal 8 лет назад +1

    another nice shootout!, can you please do one for printers? I'm looking into getting a printer to print my own pictures as a enthusiast and have more control over them. no idea which one would be good.
    also, would be cool to see a 5Dsr vs D810/A.

  • @vitaliygnatenko4832
    @vitaliygnatenko4832 8 лет назад +2

    Very well balanced review, great job, though some important features of the A7RII could be addressed in more detail - MUCH smaller size (great for e.g. street photography especially with silent shutter), internal image stabilization (just mentioned) and ability to use almost any lens via available adapters (with stabilization!). For many photographers, those could be quite the points.

  • @kriXoff75
    @kriXoff75 8 лет назад

    nice review, thanks very much.

  • @karl5874
    @karl5874 8 лет назад

    Sony 9, Canon 3. I was surprised. Great review as always :)

  • @cdave2006
    @cdave2006 7 лет назад

    Thanks a lot for the 12 comparaison test. I got 11 to 12 for the canon. It's just so personnal but I just love the look of canon. I was really considering switching according to test like DXO provides, but really theory is something to put in practice. Thank you very much and sorry for my average english.

  • @spikedesignworks
    @spikedesignworks 8 лет назад

    excellent in-depth video. Kudos!

    • @MMaven
      @MMaven  8 лет назад

      Thank you Sam

  • @bayusampurno
    @bayusampurno 8 лет назад

    Many thanks for the video, very useful for me ...

  • @Mrshyamalk
    @Mrshyamalk 8 лет назад

    Thoroughly informative nd detailed video. Gr8 work @MichaeltheMemtor

  • @ObelixCMM
    @ObelixCMM 8 лет назад +7

    Great review Michael!
    I was surprised that Mark found Sony viewfinder at X .78 magnification smaller than Canon at X .71

    • @MMaven
      @MMaven  8 лет назад +5

      Me too. I think he felt that way for all the display information that was up on the screen at the time, as it skirts the outer border, makes it feel smaller. Easy to turn off, and always strange when using a new system

    • @ObelixCMM
      @ObelixCMM 8 лет назад

      MichaelTheMentor Makes sense, I usually have simple display in EVF

  • @14lou
    @14lou 8 лет назад

    An objective, thorough and as fair a shootout as one could hope for, a lot of hard work well done and greatly appreciated.
    Good idea for the quiz, my scoring was 7/12 in favour of the A7RII

    • @MMaven
      @MMaven  8 лет назад

      Thank you for your support lou

  • @paulooopify
    @paulooopify 8 лет назад +1

    one more extraordinary review from Michaelthementor.. Lots of thumbs up and shares needed people 👍

    • @MMaven
      @MMaven  8 лет назад +1

      Thank you Paul - the shares and likes are the exact reason why I keep making these!

  • @evagabrielle1983
    @evagabrielle1983 8 лет назад

    Great work MichaelTheMentor!!

  • @jeffer8762
    @jeffer8762 8 лет назад +2

    holy crap, i choosed 10 pic from 5dsr and 2 pic from a7r2.
    I wan to know what mode you shoot those pic in ?
    The result differ alot from what I testing with my canon 6D vs my A7r2

  • @gauravsawn
    @gauravsawn 8 лет назад

    Thank you soooo much!

  • @user-ym6lc7pk1e
    @user-ym6lc7pk1e 7 лет назад

    Fantastic comparison. Thank you. For street photography which camera would you recommend if I already have lots of EF lens?

  • @sandyp123
    @sandyp123 8 лет назад

    Thanks for a great review. Another plus for the Sony is the weight and size, which makes it much easier and more comfortable to carry and hold. While this may not apply to everyone, it does to me.

    • @MMaven
      @MMaven  8 лет назад +1

      That Definitely a huge plus that I didn't mention. This size and weight reduction over DSLR bodies and lenses is significant.

  • @pracquet
    @pracquet 8 лет назад

    Love the intro! Good job!

  • @isabelladavis1363
    @isabelladavis1363 8 лет назад

    Going insane trying to decide if I want to take the plunge for this amazing camera...Michael with out a doubt the most comprehensive videos I've seen on the Sony versus the canon...As a portrait photographer I chose the Canon comparisons ...11 out of 12 for the canon...the color for the Sony did look quite orange almost...but then every monitor is different.I was quite surprised but as you have shown us it does offer so much more...possibly they will come out with a firmware update to improve some of those issues... I have the Nikon D700 which I love but not the weight and size...decisions decisions..when I do decide I will certainly come here for the crash course....thank you for what I felt was an honest comparison..

  • @samtidd5238
    @samtidd5238 8 лет назад +1

    Where can I find the tutorial for the eye detection? And, will this work on newer other Sony mirror less cameras?

  • @mibo747
    @mibo747 5 лет назад +1

    PERFECT REVIEW !

  • @EmoEmu
    @EmoEmu 8 лет назад

    On the topic of the A7Rii banding:
    Did you have silent shutter turned on or did it manage to band even without that?

  • @marendradika
    @marendradika 2 года назад

    Just watched and still helpful

  • @wesleyhyun
    @wesleyhyun 8 лет назад

    You will want to use the LA-EA3 with the 7RII instead of the 4. The AF system can support phase detection for A-mount lenses on it's own.

  • @RonnelCuison
    @RonnelCuison 8 лет назад +2

    Best real life review. :)

  • @talshay12
    @talshay12 7 лет назад

    Great video thanks

  • @flyassqbn
    @flyassqbn 7 лет назад

    great informative video!

  • @carbon6372
    @carbon6372 5 лет назад

    I got 9 Canon and 3 Sony in the blind test. I currently use a Canon 6D, and I’m about to get a Sony A7R II. Not sure if I regret this, or if I should upgrade to another Canon. This camera body will mainly be used for architecture, landscapes and sometimes events.

  • @telemaq76
    @telemaq76 8 лет назад

    thanks for your great work.I m surprised by iso test. 5dsr is not that bad.

  • @ingo2835
    @ingo2835 5 лет назад

    Really interesting review. Especially because a lot of people say it has a slow AF. Would a A7 II perform similar?

  • @jameswestii454
    @jameswestii454 2 года назад

    Michael, do you have a setup video for the Canon 5DSR like you have for my Canon 90D?

  • @theearthling5865
    @theearthling5865 8 лет назад

    I'm just an amateur but curious just the same, wondering whether recording with the A7R2 onto an external HDMI recorder (rather than onto the onboard card) would prevent overheating? Also, would that allow for longer recording duration? And what if you were recording for a time lapse onto the card, how long would it be in one go before the A7R2 shuts down?

  • @TerroMin
    @TerroMin 8 лет назад

    Very, very nice comparsion!!! :)
    For the future test - sport shooting with A7, 5D and D810... A7 whith AF and old MF lenses - does it really so imported fast autofocus?!

  • @johnnyt9780
    @johnnyt9780 7 лет назад +1

    Thanks for the great insight, in the running pictures you use AF-C. But can you please tell what kind of focus point and what the setup you where using here, Thanks!

    • @philindeblanc
      @philindeblanc 7 лет назад

      Its a good question. I am also wondering wich sensor is "sharper"? Meaning which sensor has the least effect of the AA filter. How do they differ. One says "No AA filter", the other says"Cancelled AA filter effect", WTFilter are they talking about???

  • @stanleyzheng3408
    @stanleyzheng3408 8 лет назад

    Great Video, thank you..

  • @PieterBreda
    @PieterBreda 8 лет назад

    excellent review

  • @luiscarlos1287
    @luiscarlos1287 8 лет назад

    Great video!

  • @aminulislamyeasin2140
    @aminulislamyeasin2140 8 лет назад

    its so much helpful for me .

  • @Puddinghkg
    @Puddinghkg 7 лет назад

    I own a 5DsR and i really liked the a7r2. So my question is, will the a7r2 works like exactly the same like the 5DsR?

  • @CarloMario
    @CarloMario 7 лет назад

    you are a professor. super video.

  • @AstroPinoy
    @AstroPinoy 8 лет назад +1

    11 out of 12 I picked Sony A7r2.. I own only canon lens, I was about to consider 5DSR but after the test, I am glad I have the A7R2..

  • @tptrsn
    @tptrsn 8 лет назад

    WOW!!! That is an amazing comparison you did there, I hope the 80D vs. a6300 comparison is even half as good.
    One question, what camera/lens/video setting did you use for the outdoor walk n' talk part of your video at the beginning and end? There are some issues with the compression of it that I have suffered from when shooting 4K outdoors on sharp lenses with my GH4.

    • @MMaven
      @MMaven  8 лет назад

      It was a gh4 on a pilot fly gimbal

    • @tptrsn
      @tptrsn 8 лет назад

      MichaelTheMentor As I suspected. Thanks!
      By the way, I think you probably want to shoot in 4K, but I have found that for walk n' talks like that where there is a lot of detail in the frame, the 1080p60 All-I 200Mbps provides a much better looking product on RUclips (when rendered and uploaded as 60fps anyway)... GH4 action shots in 4K that are rendered and uploaded as 4K don't seem to work well with RUclips's compression.

  • @mibo747
    @mibo747 5 лет назад +1

    still watching and at the end is even "more PERFECT" Its clear on portrait numbers that Canon have less dynamic range

  • @leejongjin
    @leejongjin 8 лет назад

    Thanks for this review.
    I want to know who she is at comparing ISO on 20:20
    She is very beatiful.

  • @jqueryrocks
    @jqueryrocks 8 лет назад

    This is a real review test, seriously.

  • @benhatto
    @benhatto 6 лет назад

    I have shot with the a7r iii, but unfortunately not the 5dsr. I LOVE the a7r iii. It is a truly amazing camera.