A tip that helped me as a raiding Hunter in Wrath in the past was using the best MD macro. There are two options: 1) MD to focus target. This is helpful in dungeons where you’ll have one static tank the entire instance. Make a /focus macro and a macro that casts MD to your focus target. 2) MD to the target of your target. This is ideal for raiding where you have two tanks. One for trash, one for bosses. Also, many bosses require tanks to taunt to drop stacks. This will ensure that you’re always casting MD on the player that’s being targeted by the boss.
Yo Sarthe, thank for the guide. How do we manage the mana without losing too much dps? I feel like I can only be pulling good damage for like, 40 seconds.
Ok so a few questions (not sure if you answered this already) but I started playing in Wrath many years ago...as far as addons: where can you get them? if I want to do both pve and pvp (both world and rated), which server is the best for this? Thanks!!
@Sarthe Have they fixed the interaction between chimera shot and serpent sting? last a checked a couple days ago Chimera shot serpent damage was the same rather the serpent sting glyph was on or not.
I am sure you made a video on this already, but I haven't seem it. I just wanted to ask what addons are you using? The main ones I would like to know is the thing between your player picture and enemy picture and the one on top of the enemy picture.
Hunters may not be the 'strongest' class, but its the most consistent throughout Wrath. Its good in every tier, has solid single target damage and pretty great AoE damage, and also some mechanical utility. And having a Hunter is never a bad thing for a comp - unlike melee heavy builds, that run into issues on some bosses. Also we're not major competition for a lot of gear. Sure, we might like leather pieces occasionally - but our weapons tend to be low priority for other classes and honestly its probably better to stick with as much mail as possible so only Enhancement Shaman are competing for those drops. Trinkets and rings are, of course, always going to be hotly contested.
@@TheBucketSkill I’ve always found Volley and Multi-Shot to be more effective with MD as Trap damage ticks are rather low compared in the 4 second window.
Hey Sarthe, love your content. What is the healthbar addon you have that shows all of the dots, effects that you currently have on the enemy? Have been looking for this for ages! Thanks :)
You want it to expire fully I believe. Pandemic is the mechanic that would extend a dots duration upon re-application. But that doesn’t work for hunter dots in Wotlk.
Sims seem to be suggesting that using an instant cast, or even steady shot, in between explosive shots is better than waiting that 0.5 second and pressing another explosive shot. This is also the easiest way of doing it, so if sims are correct, this is definitely the best option. If sims are incorrect, you want to perfectly chain epxlosive shots to account for travel time. There's already weakauras for this that indicate when to press explosive shot, which take into account travel time and distance to target.
'aspect weaving' if done right..negates the 50% reduction and still get syou mana But it has to be timed based off your auto shot timer and next available instant
what addons are you using as shown on the marksman rotations section? (1. the one with swing timer. 2. the one with hunter's mark & serpent sting icon)
Loved this video, can't wait for the other classes ! I'd love to have your opinion / advices on Dungeon grind build for 70 to 80, or a solo quest build focused on efficiency. For example I'm seeing cool Healer paladin build with A LOT (40+) points in Ret for dungeons, and I just love how creative and fun those builds look like, and I just want more of it on every class. I'm wondering how DKs could tank but also destroy DPS in dungeons with a paladin like this and zoom through leveling, and with what spec that would work best. I have to say though since I discovered your channel i am not disapointed, Great work Sarthe, and thank you Well ... except the thumbnails ... 😆 But it's what on the inside that matters !
I never see Survival Hunter’s talk about using distance from the boss to estimate when you can fire off your explosive shot early to perfectly roll over your previous explosive shot DoT into a brand new fresh dot without cancelling it. I feel like this trick represented the highest level of survival play and no one talks about it. I’m starting to wonder if I am crazy in remembering top 200 Elitist Jerk hunters used to play like this. It was such an easy way to beat other survival hunters on any single target fight from Naxx-Ulduar and early TOGC. If you played it wrong you would clip your own explosive shot, but if you timed the distance just right, it would perfectly roll the dot from one charge set to another, almost as if the debuff lasted twice as long. Am I crazy?
You mostly want to stand close so u can put down explosive trap, so that technique doesnt really apply. Maybe it's useful on encounters where u cant use explosive trap, but I've only seen ppl just use something else between explosive shots during LNL so not to clip the debuff
Not crazy at all. Seamless DoT rolling is important for a lot of classes. Its a little tricky for Hunters since there's travel time, but that's just a matter of practice.
@@Herman3387 I do remember trap weaving being huge source of extra DPS. But didn't explosive trap also share a CD with either black arrow or explosive shot? Such that you could only do one or the other? I thought it was most often used when there were multiple targets, other wise the distance rollover strat came into play? I could totally be wrong, but that is how I remembered it. Haven't touched a beta or private server so I may just be weird headcannon.
@@studyofgaming9707 yes, explosive trap shares a cd with black arrow, but we've seen on the ptr and beta that explosive trap does a lot more dmg and procs Lock and load more often because it has more ticks. So especially with glyph explosive trap is what u want to use whenever u can
@@Herman3387 that’s right it’s slowly coming back. Based on this wouldn’t explosive trap beat Black Arrow on virtually any patchwork style fight? I had always thought explosive trap was only worth it if you were dipping into AoE damage, but if you are getting extra ticks it seems better to just learn to use traps to trigger lock and load from the beginning to max dps. The only time it seems worth it NOT to trap weave is when you have mechanics or you are placed in ranged.
I'm not sure when in wrath removed it, but melee weaving did not exist in 3.3.5a. And wrath classic is based off 3.3.5a, makes perfect sense they wouldn't re-introduce it.
@@Xypher14 Excuse me sir but you have a lot of miss information going on there. Like .... MEELE WEAVING is existing since classic until CATACLYSM. they removed it this time just like RDF becauese they think its a good ... idea? so no sense removing it. Lets remove warlocks Chaosbolt cuz why tf not bro
@@doncorleone1720 They were planning on removing melee weaving in July 2008, this is way before the launch in November 2008. There was no melee weaving in 3.3.5. If you can find a source of someone melee weaving in that patch, then please link it. This is not a matter of #SomeChanges, as it is exactly how it was on retail all these years ago.
BM is one of those specs that Blizzard designed poorly for raiding. It has no scaling with stats like agility and armor pen (unlike MoP where BM pets scaled from your attack power), does worse AoE than Survival and MM as you have weaker traps and volley. But most importantly, your Misdirection is exponentially weaker than playing MM as MD is threat from Hunter damage & BM is mostly pet damage. BM is the pretty good for Arenas as it has high single target burst and exotic pets can be very strong in PvP. Beast Cleave can be decent, but in better gear, MM is just better in every way for PvP, especially paired with something like a Ret Paladin and Holy Priest. If you want to play around with BM, you definitely could try something in Naxx like a Survival/BM hybrid. I’ve seen this build on private servers do pretty well but it’ll always fall short to MM.
So, there is no leveling guide. It just doesn’t exist, maybe it got scrapped and you pre recorded content, Thats fine. There is a lot of misinformation in this video, especially regarding rotations, it also doesn’t seem like you plan to address it, nor do you seem to interact with your youtube at all. If you’re just doing this to capitalize on money, id suggest you at least upload info that is accurate, so we don’t have 100s of hunters who are even more ignorant than they already are.
Hi Sarthe! First time viewer (now subbed), great video. Can you tell us what addons you are using for your UI? It looks like dominos, but im interested in the timer and the buttons above your mana bar and timer. Looks like a CD counter.
Doesn't appear we really use it at all anymore (barring niche cleave situations). Hunters only really used Multishot because we didn't have anything else worth using a GCD on - Wrath gives us a lot more abilities to use both in single target and AoE situations. Explosive Shot and Black Arrow for Survival, as an example, with Aimed Shot being redesigned to be instant, gives us plenty of abilities to use (you don't even need to Steady Shot very often either, its more a filler if you don't get Lock and Load procs).
KC won't gimp your dps if its maro' in to stuff Still advocated to keep it macro'd for some just to ensure the CD is always used, otherwise people will sit on it.
You don't press black arrow unless you're forced to because of positioning in an encounter, explosive trap is better sadly enough. It's a chunky dps loss even in prepatch, and when we get explosive trap glyph, it's ~400 dps loss which is an insane amount.
@@kanor13 evidently melee weaving isn’t a thing anymore. I’m guessing you just run in and drop it on cd. 🤷♂️ so we are delaying an auto shot a little depending on how far we have to run?
@@kanor13 You stand close to the boss the entire fight, and when you want to use trap you just use an instant, run in, trap, run out and stand still ASAP. On PTR, you can also jump trap, and the trap will be placed further away. This extra distance is enough to be able to never have to leave minimum range, and still hit traps on most bosses (hitboxes are different for different bosses).
This guide could have been so much better. Actually seeing the screen shot of pet talent trees; a visible rotation for AOE marksman, I couldn’t even understand what spell he said before Explosive trap and then Volley. Dude is talented, but this was badly produced and rushed. Def could have used visual aids instead of blurry screens.
Have to disagree on Wolf Pet ( Best Pet ) on release and back in old dayz of WoTLK both Alliance and Horde Hunters Taimed Bears and Pigs cause they eat Any Food and both of them hit Hard if properly skills are put into talents and buffs. Any who we stick with Wolf pet and Happy Hunting.
Wolf is the best dps pet, for leveling bears are good because they have 2 abilities and can snap threat, as well as an aoe similar to feral druids. “Back in the old days” no one knew wtf they were doing.
02:43 is debatable: kill command is still not on the GCD, so you could have it macro'd in your other spells, just like silencing shot. This makes it so that you don't have to manage the cooldown, and it's always used the second it comes off cooldown.
@@rianabi12 You could, but I'm pretty sure it's not worth delaying just because it's just for your pet (already very low damage) and it would only benefit from AP and % increases, every so slightly.
@@Xypher14 The point is more so that if you macro it into your other abilities, you have no control over it, so it can go off at bad times when your pet cant actually attack. That combined with it scaling with trinkets and a bunch of other stuff means he's right. It' not a major dps loss or gain wichever way you do it, but it IS better to not macro it.
@@rianabi12 Keep in mind that the buff lasts for 30 seconds, so unless you have a situation where your pet can't attack for 20+ seconds, it's still best to press it immediately so you get it back faster. It's also distracting trying to time such a minor ability with other things. Delaying it with 6 seconds (10% of the CD) means that you need a 10% damage increase on your pet to make up for it. Considering pets only receive 22% of the hunter's ranged attack power as attack power, that would mean your attack power as a hunter would have to go up with ~+50% during your cooldowns, so your pet gets +10% damage, so that aligning it with kill command would be break-even DPS-wise. You're never going to get a +50% AP increase during cooldowns, unless maybe in BIS ICC gear with some crazy buffs. There are niche scenarios where it's better to delay it so it lines up with cooldowns, like at the end of a fight with less than a minute left, I can agree on that. But for most people managing it manually will be a disadvantage, imo. I'll adjust my original comment to clarify.
@@Xypher14 Yeah it's a tradeoff between min-maxing and ease of use, i just assume most people watching this stuff actually want to push their character, but it's a fair point to bring up for the majority of the playerbase.
@@phgamer4393 I also played BM in Naxx back in 2008 hehe. It is an ok spec, but you gonna do less dmg compared to Survival and Mm later on. BM does not scales as good with gear either
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To get level 70 wolf you can grab the saddled wolves inside shattered halls once pre patch hits 💯
do they remain the saddle?
@@leeeeni yes
Yup just tamed one a couple hours ago stays saddled as well
@@tlvu1can663 Can you do this solo or do you need a group to get it?
@@Frosmad group the wolfs are a bit of ways inside shatt halls
quick question if kill command wont trigger gcd why wouldnt you want to use it? wouldnt it just be free damage at that point macro'd to SS?
What is the nam of addon is shows cooldown on the center and auto shot time?
A tip that helped me as a raiding Hunter in Wrath in the past was using the best MD macro. There are two options:
1) MD to focus target. This is helpful in dungeons where you’ll have one static tank the entire instance. Make a /focus macro and a macro that casts MD to your focus target.
2) MD to the target of your target. This is ideal for raiding where you have two tanks. One for trash, one for bosses. Also, many bosses require tanks to taunt to drop stacks. This will ensure that you’re always casting MD on the player that’s being targeted by the boss.
I couldnt find the video with the leveling build you mentioned. Can you link the video here?
So what spec to go into a raid now at 70 , MM or SV. What has more single target dps?
how can i do a weakaura for "lock and load" or addon to know when it procs so i can do my explosive shot ???434 rotation of it
Yo Sarthe, thank for the guide. How do we manage the mana without losing too much dps? I feel like I can only be pulling good damage for like, 40 seconds.
Would like a more deep discussion on trap weaving.
you swap between frost and explo trap on the boss to get lock and load to proc. If you read the lock and load talent it should make more sense
Frost Trap doesn't proc lock and load on enemies that are immune to snares (bosses). That was a bug exclusive to private servers.
Stupid question from a fairly new hunter, what's the addon to get the big debuff icons above the enemy health/mana bar?
Don't need a quiver anymore and as some others mentioned arrows stack to 1000. Time to shop for a 4th bag.
Ok so a few questions (not sure if you answered this already) but I started playing in Wrath many years ago...as far as addons: where can you get them? if I want to do both pve and pvp (both world and rated), which server is the best for this? Thanks!!
@Sarthe Have they fixed the interaction between chimera shot and serpent sting? last a checked a couple days ago Chimera shot serpent damage was the same rather the serpent sting glyph was on or not.
Can I ask what addon your using that lights up buttons on action bar when proc's occur ?
Do you know what the go to pre patch pvp spec is? I need to farm honor for mine to gear up some brutal gear as its an alt and not raid geared.
When do the saddle wolves become trainable? They're level 70 in heroics.
I am sure you made a video on this already, but I haven't seem it. I just wanted to ask what addons are you using? The main ones I would like to know is the thing between your player picture and enemy picture and the one on top of the enemy picture.
As a hunter main that has had engineering since classic, one of the things i'm most excited for is so much more bag space!
Just picked hunter up, how do I get more bag space? The quiver slot is a pain :(
u still need quiver, but he has Thoridal lego bow, so he dont need arrows :P
@@Karmachris95 don't even need quiver now. The attack haste was moved to auto shot instead of the bag and you can stack ammo to 1000!
What did the hunter changes do for dogs now that you don't have to melee weave?
And does it make bm stronger in classic wrath then original wrath?
Does he publish his Weak Aura's they seem really good.
Great vid, hunter main here and this video was very helpful
What was the addon that showed the Serpent Sting timer on his screen?
Do you have a ui profile or video?
Sooooo marksman or surv for leveling 70-80?
Hunters may not be the 'strongest' class, but its the most consistent throughout Wrath. Its good in every tier, has solid single target damage and pretty great AoE damage, and also some mechanical utility. And having a Hunter is never a bad thing for a comp - unlike melee heavy builds, that run into issues on some bosses.
Also we're not major competition for a lot of gear. Sure, we might like leather pieces occasionally - but our weapons tend to be low priority for other classes and honestly its probably better to stick with as much mail as possible so only Enhancement Shaman are competing for those drops. Trinkets and rings are, of course, always going to be hotly contested.
MDing off cooldown for the raid makes threat trivial as well. 2 md's powered by explosivetraps
@@TheBucketSkill I’ve always found Volley and Multi-Shot to be more effective with MD as Trap damage ticks are rather low compared in the 4 second window.
Ive already gotten so much gear as of now simply because mail is so uncontested and so many plate wearers are out there. Its been awesome!
Hey Sarthe, love your content. What is the healthbar addon you have that shows all of the dots, effects that you currently have on the enemy? Have been looking for this for ages! Thanks :)
threat plate it seems.
Can we get a link to that new Hunter "Rotation" WA?
yeah big +1 on this, can't find anything on this UI anywhere
@@eddierofl Its an addon called Rotation Master
So on LnL procs, do we wait for the LnL on target to full expire b4 shooting the next or do we shoot it with a tiny bit left on dot timer?
yes
You want it to expire fully I believe. Pandemic is the mechanic that would extend a dots duration upon re-application. But that doesn’t work for hunter dots in Wotlk.
@@shaunybonny688 he’s talking to account for travel time
Sims seem to be suggesting that using an instant cast, or even steady shot, in between explosive shots is better than waiting that 0.5 second and pressing another explosive shot. This is also the easiest way of doing it, so if sims are correct, this is definitely the best option.
If sims are incorrect, you want to perfectly chain epxlosive shots to account for travel time. There's already weakauras for this that indicate when to press explosive shot, which take into account travel time and distance to target.
General rule of thumb for arcane shot - if you gem ArP you use steadyshot and if you gem Agi you use Arcane shot in rotation
Kind of, but not exactly. If you have at least 400 passive armor pen, you can drop Arcane in favor of *Aimed Shot*
@@brandonkruse6412 aimed shot is in the rotation regardless? This aint TBC talk
'aspect weaving' if done right..negates the 50% reduction and still get syou mana
But it has to be timed based off your auto shot timer and next available instant
what addons are you using as shown on the marksman rotations section? (1. the one with swing timer. 2. the one with hunter's mark & serpent sting icon)
Those are weakauras
@@thomasryan7987 thanks for clarifying. Would you know the WA for those?
Doesn't blackarrow proc lock and load. not sure if make it a prio to keep a trap up.
Black arrow does yes but it's the least consistent doing so, trap also hit much harder
Trap does way More procs lmao.
You can also ice proc for 100% proc
How will spamming KC as a part of your macros "gimp your dps" ?
where do you level the 67 wolf from blade's edge?
Can you give links to the Weak Aura's you are using?
What about using readiness?
ammo stacks a ton more now too so shuffle your ammo onto the other stacks!
My guy
@@preston2345 also the quiver attack speed is now passive so you can change it out for a bag!
Definitely consider doing a prot/holy Paladin guide. Theyre S tier specs all expansion yet there is far from any good content on RUclips for them
I want to copy His healthbar, pet HP mana and enemy HP bar with the debuffs/buff he places on it but I dont know where to get a layout like that
this was so helpful! thank you!
What about BM hunter?
Whats the best leveling spec and I hope it's not bm
Link to leveling guide???
are the wolves in helfire ramparts not tameable yet?
Anyone know the name of the timer/cast addon?
Thanks fo the vid!! Excited!! plan to pvp and pve on my hunter. Boosting one on the alliance side, totally unsure on what race XD
Is MM or survival more dps in prepatch ?
Loved this video, can't wait for the other classes ! I'd love to have your opinion / advices on Dungeon grind build for 70 to 80, or a solo quest build focused on efficiency.
For example I'm seeing cool Healer paladin build with A LOT (40+) points in Ret for dungeons, and I just love how creative and fun those builds look like, and I just want more of it on every class.
I'm wondering how DKs could tank but also destroy DPS in dungeons with a paladin like this and zoom through leveling, and with what spec that would work best.
I have to say though since I discovered your channel i am not disapointed, Great work Sarthe, and thank you
Well ... except the thumbnails ... 😆 But it's what on the inside that matters !
broooo nice guide, where i get that weakaura
Lol been a hunter for over a decade and still watched 😛. Good video
Hey, what addons do you use?
Need that weak aura you got there muh boy. So good
Have you updated your macros in the discord?
maybe i'm just missing it, but where's that leveling video you talked about?
Did you ever find it? Because as far as I can tell it just doesn’t exist.
@@Chaoticsaur I did not find it
Link to that mana/shot/skills WA?
I never see Survival Hunter’s talk about using distance from the boss to estimate when you can fire off your explosive shot early to perfectly roll over your previous explosive shot DoT into a brand new fresh dot without cancelling it.
I feel like this trick represented the highest level of survival play and no one talks about it. I’m starting to wonder if I am crazy in remembering top 200 Elitist Jerk hunters used to play like this. It was such an easy way to beat other survival hunters on any single target fight from Naxx-Ulduar and early TOGC.
If you played it wrong you would clip your own explosive shot, but if you timed the distance just right, it would perfectly roll the dot from one charge set to another, almost as if the debuff lasted twice as long. Am I crazy?
You mostly want to stand close so u can put down explosive trap, so that technique doesnt really apply. Maybe it's useful on encounters where u cant use explosive trap, but I've only seen ppl just use something else between explosive shots during LNL so not to clip the debuff
Not crazy at all. Seamless DoT rolling is important for a lot of classes. Its a little tricky for Hunters since there's travel time, but that's just a matter of practice.
@@Herman3387 I do remember trap weaving being huge source of extra DPS. But didn't explosive trap also share a CD with either black arrow or explosive shot? Such that you could only do one or the other? I thought it was most often used when there were multiple targets, other wise the distance rollover strat came into play? I could totally be wrong, but that is how I remembered it. Haven't touched a beta or private server so I may just be weird headcannon.
@@studyofgaming9707 yes, explosive trap shares a cd with black arrow, but we've seen on the ptr and beta that explosive trap does a lot more dmg and procs Lock and load more often because it has more ticks. So especially with glyph explosive trap is what u want to use whenever u can
@@Herman3387 that’s right it’s slowly coming back. Based on this wouldn’t explosive trap beat Black Arrow on virtually any patchwork style fight? I had always thought explosive trap was only worth it if you were dipping into AoE damage, but if you are getting extra ticks it seems better to just learn to use traps to trigger lock and load from the beginning to max dps. The only time it seems worth it NOT to trap weave is when you have mechanics or you are placed in ranged.
Can we get one of these for Rogue?
where is this cast bar weak aura?
like why would you remove meeleweaveing for hunter. LIKE WHY? it was even there in orginal wotlk. why would they remove it?
I'm not sure when in wrath removed it, but melee weaving did not exist in 3.3.5a. And wrath classic is based off 3.3.5a, makes perfect sense they wouldn't re-introduce it.
@@Xypher14 Excuse me sir but you have a lot of miss information going on there. Like .... MEELE WEAVING is existing since classic until CATACLYSM. they removed it this time just like RDF becauese they think its a good ... idea? so no sense removing it. Lets remove warlocks Chaosbolt cuz why tf not bro
@@doncorleone1720 They were planning on removing melee weaving in July 2008, this is way before the launch in November 2008. There was no melee weaving in 3.3.5. If you can find a source of someone melee weaving in that patch, then please link it.
This is not a matter of #SomeChanges, as it is exactly how it was on retail all these years ago.
Nice video! What are your oppinions on BM hunter? Is it still leveling and PVE viable like in tbc?
BM is one of those specs that Blizzard designed poorly for raiding.
It has no scaling with stats like agility and armor pen (unlike MoP where BM pets scaled from your attack power), does worse AoE than Survival and MM as you have weaker traps and volley.
But most importantly, your Misdirection is exponentially weaker than playing MM as MD is threat from Hunter damage & BM is mostly pet damage.
BM is the pretty good for Arenas as it has high single target burst and exotic pets can be very strong in PvP. Beast Cleave can be decent, but in better gear, MM is just better in every way for PvP, especially paired with something like a Ret Paladin and Holy Priest.
If you want to play around with BM, you definitely could try something in Naxx like a Survival/BM hybrid. I’ve seen this build on private servers do pretty well but it’ll always fall short to MM.
weak aura link possible?
So, there is no leveling guide. It just doesn’t exist, maybe it got scrapped and you pre recorded content, Thats fine. There is a lot of misinformation in this video, especially regarding rotations, it also doesn’t seem like you plan to address it, nor do you seem to interact with your youtube at all. If you’re just doing this to capitalize on money, id suggest you at least upload info that is accurate, so we don’t have 100s of hunters who are even more ignorant than they already are.
Can you elaborate?
What a useless comment. What specifically is wrong?
not playin hunter, just here to let you know, awesome work :) see ya on the ret guide
“Other than taking away melee weaving”. I’m glad that sh*t is gone; if I wanted to melee, I’d play a different class.
Yea so bad Hunters like you dont have to learn mechanics lol.
hey dude how many hit i need? :)
Are you going to do a hunter deep dive/ weak aura/ UI video? I'd join for that
Sup Sarthe. Solid write up my guy. You taught me everything I know about Hunter. Could you do an enhance / spellhance prepatch vid?
Nothing changes regarding gemming for hunters? :o
Theres actually no lvling spec or video anywhere btw
Pls Interface guide for hunter wotlk!!
Guys, its worth drop lw for eng ? I have lw on 375
Eng is bis. You have DST as a enchant Bro….
What about BM?
great content as usual
Hi Sarthe! First time viewer (now subbed), great video. Can you tell us what addons you are using for your UI? It looks like dominos, but im interested in the timer and the buttons above your mana bar and timer. Looks like a CD counter.
Most likely some Weak Auras
A Rogue guide would be really nice.
I would be so happy if you did a collaboration with Simonize same subject just w/ rogues 🙏
U have lvl 70 wolves on rampants HC, tameable on ptr, confirmed
im taming a wolf from heroic ramparts for sure
Do we still use multishot on single target?
aimed
Doesn't appear we really use it at all anymore (barring niche cleave situations). Hunters only really used Multishot because we didn't have anything else worth using a GCD on - Wrath gives us a lot more abilities to use both in single target and AoE situations. Explosive Shot and Black Arrow for Survival, as an example, with Aimed Shot being redesigned to be instant, gives us plenty of abilities to use (you don't even need to Steady Shot very often either, its more a filler if you don't get Lock and Load procs).
Oh, and Serpent Sting is worth keeping up now too. And Kill Shot is #1 priority when in execute range.
@@andromidius thank you for the reply.
Thats what I was figuring but it wasn't stated anywhere so just wanted some kinda confirmation.
No, you will always take aimed shot which shares a CD with multi, and both are now instant.
we don't use multi shot?
only when there is 3 targets, aimed is better single target
KC won't gimp your dps if its maro' in to stuff
Still advocated to keep it macro'd for some just to ensure the CD is always used, otherwise people will sit on it.
Yes it will, if you activate it just before a phase of no damage, that's a dps loss.
You don't press black arrow unless you're forced to because of positioning in an encounter, explosive trap is better sadly enough. It's a chunky dps loss even in prepatch, and when we get explosive trap glyph, it's ~400 dps loss which is an insane amount.
Holy shit that’s a huge difference, how do we melee weave in explosive?
@@kanor13 evidently melee weaving isn’t a thing anymore. I’m guessing you just run in and drop it on cd. 🤷♂️ so we are delaying an auto shot a little depending on how far we have to run?
@@kanor13 You stand close to the boss the entire fight, and when you want to use trap you just use an instant, run in, trap, run out and stand still ASAP.
On PTR, you can also jump trap, and the trap will be placed further away. This extra distance is enough to be able to never have to leave minimum range, and still hit traps on most bosses (hitboxes are different for different bosses).
This is aids on big hitbox bosses.
"massdirect"?
This guide could have been so much better. Actually seeing the screen shot of pet talent trees; a visible rotation for AOE marksman, I couldn’t even understand what spell he said before Explosive trap and then Volley. Dude is talented, but this was badly produced and rushed. Def could have used visual aids instead of blurry screens.
cant believe you make a guide and dont know u get a 70 wolf in heroic shattered halls ^^
FYI i am a NOOB
Have to disagree on Wolf Pet ( Best Pet ) on release and back in old dayz of WoTLK both Alliance and Horde Hunters Taimed Bears and Pigs cause they eat Any Food and both of them hit Hard if properly skills are put into talents and buffs. Any who we stick with Wolf pet and Happy Hunting.
Wolf is the best dps pet, for leveling bears are good because they have 2 abilities and can snap threat, as well as an aoe similar to feral druids. “Back in the old days” no one knew wtf they were doing.
My farming alt is gonna be so stronk
Can u do a rogue one
Will you make a hunter deepdive video? 🙌🏻
yes
I love BM hunter
What mod are you using to keep an eye on your hunter's mark and serpent sting? The mod you moused over here ruclips.net/video/QuaLMigVOMI/видео.html
wheres your hunter leveling guide?
can we get your WA?? they are amazing
pet talent tree? Cheers! found it. im a true huntard!
I love skin-of-men.
02:43 is debatable: kill command is still not on the GCD, so you could have it macro'd in your other spells, just like silencing shot. This makes it so that you don't have to manage the cooldown, and it's always used the second it comes off cooldown.
You dont macro it because it has a 1min cooldown, lining it up with cooldowns when possible is much better.
@@rianabi12 You could, but I'm pretty sure it's not worth delaying just because it's just for your pet (already very low damage) and it would only benefit from AP and % increases, every so slightly.
@@Xypher14 The point is more so that if you macro it into your other abilities, you have no control over it, so it can go off at bad times when your pet cant actually attack. That combined with it scaling with trinkets and a bunch of other stuff means he's right. It' not a major dps loss or gain wichever way you do it, but it IS better to not macro it.
@@rianabi12 Keep in mind that the buff lasts for 30 seconds, so unless you have a situation where your pet can't attack for 20+ seconds, it's still best to press it immediately so you get it back faster. It's also distracting trying to time such a minor ability with other things.
Delaying it with 6 seconds (10% of the CD) means that you need a 10% damage increase on your pet to make up for it. Considering pets only receive 22% of the hunter's ranged attack power as attack power, that would mean your attack power as a hunter would have to go up with ~+50% during your cooldowns, so your pet gets +10% damage, so that aligning it with kill command would be break-even DPS-wise. You're never going to get a +50% AP increase during cooldowns, unless maybe in BIS ICC gear with some crazy buffs.
There are niche scenarios where it's better to delay it so it lines up with cooldowns, like at the end of a fight with less than a minute left, I can agree on that. But for most people managing it manually will be a disadvantage, imo. I'll adjust my original comment to clarify.
@@Xypher14 Yeah it's a tradeoff between min-maxing and ease of use, i just assume most people watching this stuff actually want to push their character, but it's a fair point to bring up for the majority of the playerbase.
You turken?
lol is there no rotation for BM?
BM is just used for Leveling, not really considered for raids
@@Mrlonefighter lol maybe. i seem remember doing naxx,toc and icc as a bm hunter though in the past. so its viable at least for normal 25.
@@phgamer4393 I also played BM in Naxx back in 2008 hehe. It is an ok spec, but you gonna do less dmg compared to Survival and Mm later on. BM does not scales as good with gear either
Sarthe please can you reply on your rogue video :D I need those weakauras!
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