Kyuseido Kakari FS Fountain Pen Review
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- Опубликовано: 21 май 2024
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I have both the Kyuseido and Gravitas versions of this pen. They are great pens but the unusual colouring of the gravitas makes it pop more. The only issue I have is that there is nothing to act as a roll stop so I have to bring a little pen rest when travelling. I also have a Conid Bulkfiller. The conid is also great but the recent price hikes make it over twice the price of the Kakari. I would rather have both Kakaris with custom grinds for the price of the conid.
Ben Walsh of Gravitas has a Special Edition of this pen with 14k gold nib end ebonite feed (620 EUR) which I (after having seen this video) will most probably purchase now.
That was the first thing I saw after googling it. Definitely drool-worthy, and kinda gives me a similar vibe to the Diplomat Nexus.
Take care: if you have a problem with the pen, Gravitas support is none and you cannot trust any answer provided by Ben Walsh. I have no problem to write this as I have several proof. Gravitas sent me 2 unusable pens. 4 months of exchange with B. Walsh, he recognized the problem, told me several time that the parcel was sent with the needed parts to repair, and in reality the parcel each time was not sent. Still finding many excuses about something which goes wrong. But each time I'm asking for the parcel number, he lies. I'm not alone in this case. I've a -let's say- "not neglectable pen collection", I've never seen a company acting like that.
At this price point, I feel like that should be the standard pen, not a special edition. This pen looks solidly built but lacks some esthetic appeal. It's not ugly, but I expect a little more from a pen at $600.
@@AtomicElf1 a little more in what sense? Non-functional "aesthetics?"
@@AtomicElf1 Are you talking about the SE from Gravitas or the one here in the video? I agree that 600 EUR for a steel nib and a plastic feed are a lot of money. But for the 14kt gold nib and the Japanese ebonite feed together with the great quality control of Ben... I think it is still a lot of money but maybe worth it
I followed the development of this pen and would definitely have acquired one from KK were it not for current poverty! This gift was well deserved, Stephen. Thank you for the generous gift of your time and expertise.
Yes you should do the fountain pen shootout. It would certainly be interesting.
I’m saving up to buy this pen with a stacked nib next year!
The Sankakusen grind by CY on the standard gold nib will make you slap your mama. Worth every penny it costs. Shame this had to be done without the standard nib because it is an incredible experience.
I think this pen is stunningly beautiful, and I love the engineering aspect. Way, way, beyond my price bracket. I have an Asvine V200, which is excellent, and will have to do. 😀
Penbbs 355 bulkfiller has the same filling system. The engage/disengage mechanism isn't exactly the same, but the method is the same. I don't think it allows you to disengage the piston at the halfway mark. I haven't tried. It's the Asvine V200 that most resembles the Conid, and the Asvine has similarities in looks, to the pen you're reviewing although the V200 is a regular vacuum fill system. The first time I filled the 355, I ended up with ink all over my fingers as disengaging and replacing the rod, displaces some ink and I didn't expect that. Yes, please do a shootout! Only get an Asvine V200 and make it a three way shootout. I've written with both the Conid and the V200 and I preferred the Asvine pen.
From what I have seen in reviews, the build quality of the PenBBS 355 cannot hold a candle to this pen or the Conid. Then again, I don't get the appeal of PenBBS for reasons best not explored here.
The quality on the 355 is excellent. Love those pens.
No comparison.
Wow, cool pen. Thank you to you and especially to Bill for making it possible for us all to see it. Of course bring on the shoot out, Make it So!
Conid used to customise pens similar to a musician's instrument. You could make custom requests and they would do it. They were so successful that they no longer bother to do that. They sell pens in pre-made batches through a retailer. Much of the appeal of a Conid is gone, yet the price has stayed the same or increased. Not to mention, the Conid has some design flaws that have not been corrected in over 6 years. It seems obvious that they stopped innovating due to their massive success. I welcome more competition in the market.
Very nice. I would love to see a shootout between this, a Conid, and maybe even an Asvine.
Beautifull pen🎉
Shoot out to the KS bulk filler? YES!
Definitely do the shootout! And throw in the Penbbs 355 just for fun 😄
Another great review....and great pen....I have the version like this but with the 14K nib that I asked to be ground to italic. Love writing with it. Got it directly from Kyuseido. Highly recomment. Just wish they had an option to have a little roll stop button on cap. What is that pocket clip you're using on it?
Looks like a Kaweco.....?
@@galessi1226 Thanks!
I have the "Black" version with a 14K 'F' nib ... love it! I purchased mine directly from CY, "Y" Studio, Japan.
Sorry I need to correct you: Y Studio is a whole other brand (Taiwanese). CY owns Kyuseido (the brand) and Tokyo Station Pens (his online handle and website) who is based in Japan.
@@Dracognizer Yup! I stand corrected! Cheers!
Oké Stephen...
Jij hebt dus een Conid, die ik ook wil, maar niet kan krijgen én je hebt nu deze. Misschien een mooi alternatief, dus zou het fijn zijn dat je ze naast elkaar laat zien.
Dusssss. Pieuw pieuw pieuw:
Fountain pen sssssshoot out!!!
Where is the pen being made?
Does it have a slippery section?
It is made in Japan. Personally, I do not find the section slippery at all.
Japan, "Y Studio", CY (owner/designer)
No! Micro grooves machined in provide texture/mitigates slipping
@@davecharvella4854 Kyuseido, not Y Studio.
@@buck-pucker Yup!
As an engineer I find this pen aesthetically attractive.
I don't find it completely unattractive, but it could use some additional design work. I think it looks a lot better than many piston fillers / demonstrators. But it is rather plain. For this price point, I would expect some more trim and esthetic appeal, not to mention a gold nib standard.
@@AtomicElf1 I agree with you 100% and that is why I mentioned the "engineer's aesthetic". My favourite "engineer's" fountain pen is my Rotring 600 (leave it for two years and it writes straight away!). It looks "at home" amongst calculators, drawings set squares etc. I agree that the Kyuseido is not a pretty pen. To me it is more functional looking than any other description I could apply. Yes, the price is brutal for what you get.
@@AtomicElf1 the gold nib is the standard with the 600usd. Kyuseido does not currently offer steel nibs.
It could sell for a third more and still be worth it.
It does remind me of the penBBS 355 which also draws in a full barrel fill. I would suspect it is also significantly less expensive.
I also suspect the grip is not slippery if it has some texture added to it like grooves.
PenBBS 355 approximately $55 USD. Kyuseido Kakri approximately $600 USD.
KK is worth it’s price and then some. Beautiful, well-engineered, amazing writer. Best pen value on the market. Nothing comes close.
Really , all systems waste plenty of ink, I alway use a syringe instead.
I don't see anything wrong with the pen, but it doesn't really do anything for me either. The "leaving the piston half-way" thing is just a gimmick to me, because it has a shut-off rod(so burping on a partial fill is irrelevant) and I have never felt the need to adjust the weight balance of a properly designed pen.
It's also somewhat disingenuous for them to claim their design is based on the 1898 patent rather than the bulkfiller. As they mention(to their credit), the original patent basically sat idle for over a century because it didn't detail how the piston would be prevented from endlessly spinning around in the barrel when you try to unthread the rod from the piston, which is a problem Francis Goossens solved and was then able to patent because it turned a useless invention into a functional product. I doubt Kyuseido would even have known about that patent if it weren't for people falsely claiming that Conid "just copied a 1898 patent" on FPN a couple of years ago. The Kakari is a good pen, I don't think they had to try so hard to make it seem like an entirely novel filling system; it just makes it sound like razor companies slapping on yet another blade and calling it a revolution in shaving.