I appreciate that you used a realistic vocal take here. So many videos already have the vocals super polished going through analog pres and levelers before they hit the daw.
Truly wonderful guide. I cant say i learned anything, but I'm positive this will help out many people. I genuinely WISH videos like this existed when i was learning. The vocals sound great and everything was well explained. I'd love to see this expanded upon by taking the vocal (bonus points if it's the same vocal) and now mixing it within the context of a song. Definitely subscribing. After quickly scrolling through your videos, I'm sure I'll find plenty of good content regarding Ableton.
Thanks so much! I'm really glad you liked this video and thought it was useful. I can definitely do a video expanding on this process within the context of the track they came from. :D Really appreciate the support. :)
Really clear step by step instructions. I learnt quite a few things about compressors & gain control (I learnt about the Knee in compressors years ago but hadn't spotted it in Ableton)
This is an amazing tutorial.. one, because you explained everything so thoroughly and two because you didn't use max for live devices and other things that maybe people might not have. Most of what you used, I was able to find replacements for, the only thing i really have a question about is multiband compression. So many of these, they use it multiple times in the chain.. what is your feeling on OTT or multiband compression?
Thank you so much! I'm glad you found this useful. You're right, probably the only thing not covered in this video is multiband compression, and it is something that can be really useful on vocals. It's not always necessary, but if you are working with an untrained vocalist who might be a bit too dynamic, then multiband compression is fantastic. I would stray away from OTT, as it is often a bit intense for vocals, but it's personal preference. :)
11:00 how come you increase the output gain instead of selecting makeup? also, did you opt for a low-shelf over a high pass in the tonal shaping EQs to keep warmth or avoid shifting the phase? thanks!
Good questions! 1. The 'makeup' option I find doesn't always work that well, so I like to set the output gain manually. 2. The low-shelf was because I didn't want to remove all of the low-frequencies, as I'd basically already removed them prior. The Channel EQ also doesn't have a very flexible High Pass option, so it was just easier to use a low-shelf. :)
very bad tutorial, be practical. process with just ableton stock plugin and skip deducting resonance? No one is a Fanboy to Ableton like that. Just include free plugins and teach full process. don't skip important steps. You're leading new producers to pithole. i expected good lessons from you not trendy contents.
Seems like you might not have gathered the point of the video: processing a vocal with stock Ableton plugins. Sure, you can use other free alternatives... he even mentioned a variety of them in the video. But again that wasn't the point of the video. As far as EQing out "resonances", I'm not a huge fan of EQing just for the sake of doing it. You can end up with a thin vocal very quickly, or doing a bunch of work of which no one can hear the difference. The vocals presented sounded fine, and regardless other EQs where you can get more surgical were mentioned. I suppose I'd be considered an advanced user, and I found the video great for those starting out with Ableton that want to process vocals. Would I have done everything the same? No. I'd highly recommend getting another EQ. But most of my changes would be within the context of a song, which is outside the scope of this video. Back when I was a "new producer" I'd have been ecstatic at having this resource. The vocals turned out great, and I'm sure others who follow along will be amazed at what their vocals can be.
Hey! I'm so sorry you don't like this tutorial. The idea was to show that you can get really good vocal sounds with just what you have available and make it accessible for people without having to go and download a bunch of plugins. I didn't mean for this to come across as me being an Ableton shill, and I definitely use other plug-ins in my own workflow. I also truly don't think I skipped any important steps in this. There were no bad resonances, therefore no need to remove them, and really I've found that you don't need to do that kind of stuff most of the time. As a processing template, the method in the video works really well (even for more than just vocals TBH), and you can sub in other plug-ins and processes as needed. Maybe the title was misleading? If so, I'd love to hear your suggestions on a different title! :) Thanks for watching even if you didn't enjoy it, I appreciate your support.
@@matttinklermusicthat was a really thoughtful and kind response, impressive and instructive for me, thank you. Definitely becoming a fan. Unfortunately I have Logic not Ableton so your videos might not be the most efficient way for me to learn atm (any recommendations you have for Logic user videos would be highly appreciated btw), but I will definitely recommend you to others and probably watch a few more of your videos anyway :) Thanks and good job!
P.S. I guess maybe you could put "(Ableton)" at the end of the title or something, but you say it in the first couple seconds so it's not a big deal. Personally, grabby titles and other "salesmanship" tactics bug me a bit, but I wouldn't feel bad about it - that's how the game is played, and your videos are worth promoting. You're providing a free service that's valuable to a lot of people, and I think even if more people "waste" 10 seconds clicking on a video that ultimately doesn't interest them, you're also reaching more people who do benefit from it. And if you're getting more money, that's more time and energy you can spend doing good things like this. Idk, I'm trying to be less cynical these days. Apologies btw if too long-winded or if you didn't want unsolicited feedback!
Also, your name is someone else's name (I get the pun, but still). Maybe you're projecting your own insecurities a little? i.e. that you can't match your heroes' creativity? Putting someone else down so you can compare yourself favorably to them to balance out your feeling of inferiority to those you admire? Idk but if that's right, then most of that's normal, I'm sure you're perfectly creative, and I think your username is clever, but being mean isn't cool. For your edification: m.ruclips.net/video/C5wuw7v6rvU/видео.html 2:08-3:00
Very cool video. Great tips. I'll definitely be using these techniques now that I'm making and recording original songs with me my vocals. ✌❤
Very glad you got a lot out of this one! Thanks for watching and the support as always. :)
I appreciate that you used a realistic vocal take here. So many videos already have the vocals super polished going through analog pres and levelers before they hit the daw.
I'm glad you appreciated that! I've been genuinely surprised at the quality of the MacBook microphone to be honest. It can pull a very usable sound!
Truly wonderful guide. I cant say i learned anything, but I'm positive this will help out many people. I genuinely WISH videos like this existed when i was learning.
The vocals sound great and everything was well explained.
I'd love to see this expanded upon by taking the vocal (bonus points if it's the same vocal) and now mixing it within the context of a song.
Definitely subscribing. After quickly scrolling through your videos, I'm sure I'll find plenty of good content regarding Ableton.
Thanks so much! I'm really glad you liked this video and thought it was useful. I can definitely do a video expanding on this process within the context of the track they came from. :D
Really appreciate the support. :)
Your videos are mint. Thanks for the tips!
Really clear step by step instructions. I learnt quite a few things about compressors & gain control (I learnt about the Knee in compressors years ago but hadn't spotted it in Ableton)
I'm very glad you learnt some stuff in this video! Thanks for watching. :)
This is an amazing tutorial.. one, because you explained everything so thoroughly and two because you didn't use max for live devices and other things that maybe people might not have. Most of what you used, I was able to find replacements for, the only thing i really have a question about is multiband compression. So many of these, they use it multiple times in the chain.. what is your feeling on OTT or multiband compression?
Thank you so much! I'm glad you found this useful.
You're right, probably the only thing not covered in this video is multiband compression, and it is something that can be really useful on vocals. It's not always necessary, but if you are working with an untrained vocalist who might be a bit too dynamic, then multiband compression is fantastic. I would stray away from OTT, as it is often a bit intense for vocals, but it's personal preference. :)
Solid tips I like it. Levelling out the vocal pre-limiter is something I’ll definitely be trying out
It's a massive game-changer! Let me know how you go. :)
11:00 how come you increase the output gain instead of selecting makeup?
also, did you opt for a low-shelf over a high pass in the tonal shaping EQs to keep warmth or avoid shifting the phase?
thanks!
Good questions!
1. The 'makeup' option I find doesn't always work that well, so I like to set the output gain manually.
2. The low-shelf was because I didn't want to remove all of the low-frequencies, as I'd basically already removed them prior. The Channel EQ also doesn't have a very flexible High Pass option, so it was just easier to use a low-shelf. :)
very bad tutorial, be practical. process with just ableton stock plugin and skip deducting resonance? No one is a Fanboy to Ableton like that. Just include free plugins and teach full process. don't skip important steps. You're leading new producers to pithole.
i expected good lessons from you not trendy contents.
Seems like you might not have gathered the point of the video: processing a vocal with stock Ableton plugins.
Sure, you can use other free alternatives... he even mentioned a variety of them in the video. But again that wasn't the point of the video.
As far as EQing out "resonances", I'm not a huge fan of EQing just for the sake of doing it. You can end up with a thin vocal very quickly, or doing a bunch of work of which no one can hear the difference. The vocals presented sounded fine, and regardless other EQs where you can get more surgical were mentioned.
I suppose I'd be considered an advanced user, and I found the video great for those starting out with Ableton that want to process vocals.
Would I have done everything the same? No. I'd highly recommend getting another EQ. But most of my changes would be within the context of a song, which is outside the scope of this video.
Back when I was a "new producer" I'd have been ecstatic at having this resource. The vocals turned out great, and I'm sure others who follow along will be amazed at what their vocals can be.
man... shut up
Hey! I'm so sorry you don't like this tutorial. The idea was to show that you can get really good vocal sounds with just what you have available and make it accessible for people without having to go and download a bunch of plugins. I didn't mean for this to come across as me being an Ableton shill, and I definitely use other plug-ins in my own workflow.
I also truly don't think I skipped any important steps in this. There were no bad resonances, therefore no need to remove them, and really I've found that you don't need to do that kind of stuff most of the time. As a processing template, the method in the video works really well (even for more than just vocals TBH), and you can sub in other plug-ins and processes as needed.
Maybe the title was misleading? If so, I'd love to hear your suggestions on a different title! :)
Thanks for watching even if you didn't enjoy it, I appreciate your support.
@@matttinklermusicthat was a really thoughtful and kind response, impressive and instructive for me, thank you. Definitely becoming a fan. Unfortunately I have Logic not Ableton so your videos might not be the most efficient way for me to learn atm (any recommendations you have for Logic user videos would be highly appreciated btw), but I will definitely recommend you to others and probably watch a few more of your videos anyway :)
Thanks and good job!
P.S. I guess maybe you could put "(Ableton)" at the end of the title or something, but you say it in the first couple seconds so it's not a big deal. Personally, grabby titles and other "salesmanship" tactics bug me a bit, but I wouldn't feel bad about it - that's how the game is played, and your videos are worth promoting. You're providing a free service that's valuable to a lot of people, and I think even if more people "waste" 10 seconds clicking on a video that ultimately doesn't interest them, you're also reaching more people who do benefit from it. And if you're getting more money, that's more time and energy you can spend doing good things like this. Idk, I'm trying to be less cynical these days. Apologies btw if too long-winded or if you didn't want unsolicited feedback!
all your actual music samples are so bland and derivative
Come on man. 🤦♂️
Sorry you don't like the examples! Art is subjective but I do hope you can appreciate the content beyond the music. :)
Pop's called pop cuz it's popular. Not my thing either, but it makes sense to use an accessible or "generic" example for something like this.
Also, your name is someone else's name (I get the pun, but still). Maybe you're projecting your own insecurities a little? i.e. that you can't match your heroes' creativity? Putting someone else down so you can compare yourself favorably to them to balance out your feeling of inferiority to those you admire? Idk but if that's right, then most of that's normal, I'm sure you're perfectly creative, and I think your username is clever, but being mean isn't cool.
For your edification: m.ruclips.net/video/C5wuw7v6rvU/видео.html 2:08-3:00