"In 5 to 10 years if that cartridge or disk were to break, in most cases it's no big deal. By then, the game has dropped in price and you grab another copy for cheap" *Laughs in NEO-GEO*
@Skunket Yeah, it's called NES Mini, and Nintendo Online. If you ain't gonna play it, maybe it will be for the best to use that money in other more useful stuff.
@@Mr.Tacoman999 Yes this is All true , BUT do not lie to Yourself... IT is NOT how things always Work. People made sure it is that way , by MAKING laws that way. The faster the population understands that this is actually how the world works , People in power will always tell you , ''' That's life , when in reality they have the levers
All right; you've convinced me that it's not worthless garbage, but it's still not something I particularly want, especially since I don't trust my internet to be good enough.
Neither people trusted Netflix when it first came out in 2013 nor people are trusting Stadia even before the launch. I didn't even have a 1mbit/s Internet Connection in 2013, and watching films in streaming was in my opinion a failed market from the beginning. Look at Netflix now; everyone can support it and everyone loves it, and I can tell you that the same thing will be probably happening sometimes in the future with Stadia, trust me
yah, than it's not particularly for you then, but for millions of people, this is a huge money saver for them. millions want to experience high end gaming but can't afford the machines to do so, but they can afford at least a nice enough internet connection and a stadia membership monthly, this will let them play the games they want.
You might be the wrong person to ask but like I want to buy internet cuz I don't got it yet and I just wanna ask which one is better and it's prices and does the prices go up? I might've not explained this really well but correct me if it's not specific. Ohh annd you might be a kid...,but I'm a kid too.
Finally, someone using their brain when looking at Stadia. I have no clue if Stadia will work well or not, but everyone crapping all over it before it actually comes out is really annoying.
Why not both? I believe the two can coexist. I don't find it likely that streaming would cause physical gaming to be phased out or go extinct. There will always be demand for it and therefore a market.
I've noticed that these days I've had to download content once I've put the disk in my console. What happens If I change consoles and I don't have that data anymore. Will servers still have it 10 years later? Probably not. My physical media is suddenly useless.
@@MarvMavro no it isn't, all the stuff that is downloaded is updates and DLC but the PS4/Xbox one/Nintendo switch can still run the game (i don't have a working PC so i don't know how PC's do it but the disk's will still work on consoles)
@@nathanmead140 Yeah I get that but I've noticed a lot of the time that we're seeing a lot of day one patches and updates fix games that have come out. 10 years later I could be left with a broken game if the servers have been shut down.
I’m seriously considering trying it for a few months. I’ll never get rid of my Xbox or my Switch. But having 4 boys from 14 to 8 in my house, not having a box to worry about or games to misplace or destroy. Sounds good to me.
I have to say as a collector and one of the people that are sad to see physical media go, this review has gotten me very interested and helped open me up to the idea. I appreciate your honesty and great insight coming from someone that holds physical collections as important as most casual gamers. I think Stadia is going to be huge, and I really think it's where everything is going to go in the future. Yes yes "oh google / amazon / apple bad" or whatever people want to say, but if I TRUST a company to do it right, it's going to be Google.
i keep my entire Steam library of about 1000 games on hard drives. and there are emulation tool to spoof the steam.api so with those i will NEVER lose my steam library
If steam get shutdown, then you will most likely not be able to play game because of steam online DRM BUT you can go into offline mode but only before it get shutdown.
@@wrmoose6542 Well Valve have already come out and said that if Steam get's shutdown they have an ability to unlock your library and will remove all DRM which can be used on any PC.
@@wrmoose6542 Yeah they promised multiple times to people who have contacted support to query what would happen if steam shutdown. A quick google search claried this too as they have also made an official statement regarding it, "The owners, Valve, have promised that if they ever do close the Steam servers then they will first make a patch to keep games running without them." Also further articles state that "Steam has, in all likelihood, already arranged to deactivate online verification and have a third party host the software for download." You still own the games you bought on Steam so devs can't really do anything about it if you already purchased it, you have the right to keep it forever, regardless if it's digital.
Thank you for this actually rational look at Stadia! All the negativity has been disheartening to me because I'm very excited about it. Yeah, maybe it's not for everyone, but it's perfect for me and my husband! We don't keep up to date with consoles and our computers really can't run a lot of the games we want to play!
pretty awful.. is that in the cities too though? ookla says your average dl speed for fixed broadband is 22.07 mbps www.speedtest.net/global-index/turkey#fixed
@@Znip12132like Drew forgot, yeah. Even here (Greece) I can have a better connection that supports stadia. But I'll need like 30-40 euros to pay. Stadia is practically non existent here because of that costs.
@@CasualPanels Well, for now Stadia doesn't exist anywhere :) Not until november. And not in Greece unfortunately. They'll properly wait a couple of years before they introduce it, so that the average internet speed has improved in that country.
Its a cool idea until you look at the fine print. Youre a 140$ fee for the console for the privilege of then buying full priced games with the following risks/stipulations. Dont have high quality internet? Well thats a flat nope to using it then, period. Also, your games are entirely dependant on an internet connnection so if your internet is sluggish or not at peak when you wanna play thats an issue, as well as the very high likelihood that you will lose your games in a couple of years once the server supporting that game isnt making enough money to justify them being up 24/7. At that point you might as well pay a few hundred dollars more for console that might not deliver the highest performance or constant portability, but is 1000% more reliable. The main point of hatred from people is that with stadia, you no longer own the games you pay for, your access to your purchases is completely to the whims of a company out to make money above all else. At least with normal digital storefronts you have the files on your system.
@@NeutralGuyDoubleZero 140$ is about the price a chrome cast ultra and a controller cost lol you can use the chrome cast for a lots of thing and the controller on pc for any pc games. So your lil hate is useless.
@@zadarblack I apologize for misunderstanding the up front costs, which does help it a lot, but at the end of the day it still doesnt fix the other main problems i have with it. Youre eating up a massive chunk of your data if you have a data cap, to purchase at full price the mere promise of access to said game. Along with the issues of varying internet connection speeds and possible input lag issues, Google's unreliability with sticking to projects, and it trying to punch into a crowded and suspicious market, im fairly confident stadia will not be the one to deliver the promised silky smooth streaming experience on launch nor will it be given the 2-3 years it needs to better settle. As a side thing game streaming is a neat, but as a mainstream option that becomes successful and draws attention is quite scary, having to rely on companies to allow access to your games. Steam lets you download the actual files and will be cracked a couple months after steam goes down guaranteed. And that was precisely my point about google hosting the servers. How long until they decide a game isnt worth supporting its server? Its very possible you could lose access to a full priced game purchase only a couple of years later, especially from how they worded their terms agreement.
Your thoughts were analytical, the video well done, and honest. Despite your excellent review, I can safely say I’m just not interested in this product. A couple reasons, my internet isn’t the fastest for one thing. My biggest reason though I relate back to X-men Arcade for XBOX 360. I missed my opportunity to buy it, and now I can’t have it anymore. Or the many wonderful titles Wii Store had, but Wii no longer has online support. By contrast, my favorite Original Xbox, Game Cube, even my Sega Genesis games are readily available to play whenever I like, mine forever. I don’t hate Stadia, I’m just not interested. I’m sure it’s impressive though.
The thing I don't understand is literally everyone talks about how Stadia is garbage because their internet connection is not good enough or someones internet connection might not be enough. But when a new game comes out that requires a 1000$ PC to play, noone's complaining. Nothing is for everyone. If your internet is shit, stop bothering about Stadia and let it be judged by the people this is actually for. People with good Internet connection.
@@justnotmyname1 the thing is google knows the current state of internet isn't optimal for their service. this service is really made for 5g and fiber optic connections. google knows adoption would be slow early on, but it's worth their investment now so that when internet connection speed catches up to their vision, everything would be ready. heres what i mean, according to ericsson's projection 1.5 billion would have adopted 5g by 2025 (not including fiber optic internet). investors are asking themselves what can they between now and 2025 that lay the groundwork for when the market is ready. improving server infrastructures, optimizing code, fine tuning user interface, building a library of ready to play games, building name recognition. all this takes time, its not gonna get done overnight. thats why they are launching the service prematurely, they are doing the work necessary so that in 5 years it would all be ready.
I might buy 1 or 2 games just to test it out but I'm more in interested in ps now and xcloud because both have a huge library of games unlike stadia where you still need to pay for games which makes the prospect of these games going away one day hurt even more. Personally I would like all consoles to have physical, digital and streaming support.
Thank you! I literally have been telling people the same points you've mentioned. The only one that surprised me was your explanation on data caps while downloading/updating games.
Isn't Steam already bridging such gaps? So far i tried Steam on Linux only on an old laptop with 1.5 GB memory but the games satisfied with these specs and not explicitly requiring another OS worked very well.
@@keinunvergebenesaliasgefunden yea, they are doing a good job but there are some games rhat dont work still and Epic store isnt supporting Linux at all
Informative, thank you. But not my speed. I don't like being tied to licenses and renting items. I want to physically own something tangible. Thank Crom for retro games.
@@tcs199111 I guess technically they can go online and turn off your disc from working. But why would they. They never have that I'm aware of for any console. Plus you could unplug it or go offline first
I'm stil skeptical I've no doubt you've tried it under the most optimal conditions set up by google plus Any artifacting will annoy me to an unreasonable degree.
I don't know why anyone would think Stadia will run 100%?Look at RUclips and how messed up it is and your gonna tell me with a straight face that Stadia will run 100% without any problems...Hell Xbox ,PS4, and Switch don't even run perfect so there's no way Stadia is gonna do it???
People need to realize that movies and music are already available on similar services at an instant whenever you want. There's no reason games can't be the same.
Inkshock there is no difference dude. The tech is getting there. We cant make progress if we dont try these things. A service like xcloud would hypoethetically allow you to play your games on any device through streaming or natively on a console. Options are amazing. So many times people travel with no way to play their favorite games.
@@UltraPrimeHunter There really is a difference. Movies and music aren't interactive and aren't as large. They can also be fully loaded ahead of time while games are always running.
All these other RUclipsrs posting all the negative feedback without actually doing the research like yourself. This is exactly why you are a quality channel with more than quality content. This explained why Stadia is a good thing.
Personally very excited for Stadia. I have fiber internet service and a houseful of 4K TVs, so it's going to be perfect for me! I can understand why it won't work for some, but there are many hardware-based alternatives if it doesn't work for you. Great insight into this service!
1. You don't need to live alone you need to game alone. The percentage of households that have 2 people simultaneously gaming will be very very low 2. If it is the case for you. Bad luck. This is not for you. Move on. Noone asks Microsoft "what if I can't afford the XBox"? The fact that this absolutely useless comment has so many likes just shows how many people desperately want Stadia to be bad and I just don't get why.
@@justnotmyname1 And the fact that you don't understand that it's not just gaming that uses the internet connection is just a shocking display of the Dunning-Kruger effect. How many Girlfriends/Wives/kids do you think might want to use Netflix while you play? To name just one example.
@@fgregerfeaxcwfeffece netflix, browsing etc. Will not take up much of your internet bandwidth. If you aren't like 3 Mbit above the limit that shouldn't be a problem
@@justnotmyname1 3Mbit might be the average rate of the pixel mush netflix provides but the average could barely take it. And have you heard of buffering? Even their DRM ridden Garbage does it to a minor degree. The problem stands the technologie is just unreliable as shit and scales like shit. To make it work we need fibre as standard. It would have been doable for decades, it just wasn't done. It's absolutely the fault of ISPs but the blame game just doesn't get you any winners. You also dismiss any kind of burst, like aforementioned internet browsing tends to do quite often. Do you know how big the average website nowadays is even without any big multimedia content? Just the javascript libs can go up to several megabytes. Which will result in several seconds of heavy stuttering in truly random intervals. Game streaming can't buffer in the slightest. Every frame you buffer would be 1 frame additional delay. In other words absolute no go. Without fiber to the home playing stadia will for the most people feel like driving on the countryside without any suspension. And the occasional getting stuck in mud. Also the general track record for streaming providers looks like trash so far. See pixel mush netflix. It's going to be worse with stadia for the named reasons. And netflix has pretty much any time in the world to do good encoding. WIth game streaming you don't get that luxury. See delay.
@@fgregerfeaxcwfeffece Ya internet will be a problem for a lot of people but Stadia isn't for everyone. For those with unreliable or slow internet get a physical console but for others Stadia is a perfect and inexpensive option.
I can't talk for every country, but i think the people commenting here saying that is not for them because of the internet connection is mostly what you talked about, it's a bit scary because it's a huge change on what you're used to, it sounds too magical, so one tends to nitpick the internet thing. There's always money that you have to spend apart from your game in order to get the full experience. Be it PC, Nintendo, PS or Xbox, you have to get money to get the game, sometimes to get controllers, you need a nice TV that supports a good resolution, because if you play in an old TV it's gonna look like shit. This is the same thing. If you wanna play nice in this, upgrade your internet connection. I mean c'mon, you don't have to pay for the console, you probably don't have to pay for the controller, you may not need to get a screen if you already own a computer or a phone. You don't have to upgrade your components or buy a new version. You only pay for the game. You don't even need to buy space to storage those games. That's another thing, you need space in whatever device you're playing on. Not here. I get that there are people geniunely not interested, but i think most are just still skeptical. I don't want this to overthrow the entire market, but man, when PS made better graphics, nintendo had to make their graphics better in order to compete. When the Wii came out, other systems tried new motion controls that eventually have led to VR. If there was not as much people buying the system the mass production of VR as a considerable price would still be years away. If PC didn't have services as convenient as steam, there's a lot of online stuff that wouldn't have happened on the systems. The new ideas the companies have in order to compete only do good for the industry, since we the players get to play in new or better ways. Even if this is not as good as it seems, it still opens up the possibility to integrate effective cloud gaming and the other concepts that the service is bringing to the table. Imagine how could would it be to do the same things Stadia offers but in a Switch, a PS, an Xbox, or new things that come. I personally love Nintendo and i have their systems because of the exclusives. I love Mario, Zelda and Smash much more than other games... but i can't afford to get a second console. I have to ask to someone to lend me their system to play Dark Souls 3, Shadow of the colossus, or other games that are not on the system and wont come out on it. With this i can play some of those in the things i already have, a pc, a phone, a notebook... Hell, i could even play in my free time on my office. I don't have to install anything on it. How is this not appealing to people, i think the only reason is misinformation about the connection and fear of change. I thought it wouldn't work because of the connection, but i have not tried it. You did.
Exceptionally well done video with factual information. Seriously impressed with Nintendrew's professional input and logic in this video. I'm now a fan.
I wasnt really excited for stadia but you've really changed my mind, I might stick with xbox's streaming because I already have an account and some games, stadia just needs some exclusives to get me on board
I dunno why people get so mad about stuff like this existing. If it sounds like a bad idea, it ain't for you lmao just don't buy into it and if it really is a bad idea, it'll die out. Physical is not going away. Things like IndieBox and Limited Run are prime examples that it's still strong for even niche games and no matter how obsolete current consoles are making it, it's still there. I get being sceptical but to be angry and shut down those who may actually be interested is daft.
I am not sure why no one has a problem paying for multiplayer on Live, PSN, Nintendo, but they have a problem paying a monthly fee with Stadia? I'm not defending anything just genuinely curios. Onlive worked 10 years ago, not perfectly but it worked with one data center. Google is supposed to have coverage around the country from what I understand.
Bacause stadia is online streamed meaning you can only go online to play them anyway with xbox and playstation you dont need to have wifi to play a majority of the games unless theyre online only games or you love multiplayer that much. Id rather just be able to play a game and not have to worry about if my internet connection goes out.
Nice to hear some positives about stadia for a change... but i still think paying full price for streaming service with nothing physical is a terrible idea... i wouldnt call it a "ripoff" BUT the idea of spending hundreds or even thousands of dollars and someday blink its gone and you have NOTHING... i think it would go a long way to to knock off even just 10% of the full price or offer some sort of insurance to users (especially if the unlikely event of stadia failing so bad at the beginning it dies happens) Also one troublesome thought i wish you could have brought up is the idea of google having full control of you library... meaning they could restrict, ban, or delete people using Google's service for whatever reason google sees fit... I like to hear some positives about stadia but those our my concerns in using such a service and i still will pass when it comes out, great video though :)
Way to go Nintendrew! Obviously you put allot of effort in this video. Very informative. Like others have said...You changed my mind about Stadia. Now I'm looking forward to it...Thanks!!
Im personally excited for something like xcloud because ideally it will mean I can stream a game on my phone and then continue playing where i left off, natively on my console.
You got a new subscriber of me with this video! An awesome down to earth and sensible point of view on the potential of Stadia unlike 99% of the other videos disregarding their standing on the subject. Awesome job! (Plus I LOVE your room...damn that’s an overload of warm and fuzzy nostalgia 😊)
Nicolas Warren same here. It’s also expensive just to have that here because of the lack of competition. I was really surprised to see him only pay $45/month of 70 Mb/s. That’s only $10 more than what mine costs smh
I think another aspect that doesn't get a lot of attention is not only the graphical processing advantage but the freedom of essentially unlimited computing and storage. They could have ginormous 10TB games with super-advanced enemy AI, Ray-Tracing, 1000 person Battle Royale, etc. I could see in a few short years, having a single local console would essentially be obsolete...like hosting your own email server.
Got mine yesterday (11/20/19), played Destiny 2 over WiFi on my television. I love the experience, no lags or hiccups at all. Just need Google to continue adding new games. Long Live STADIA!
I am excited, but for all the let's plays or potential games! Only big downsides I see are - Less likely for Google Drive on Switch - Lack of free games (if I ported my game, Puzzling Problems, I would have it be free) - Lack of non-games (if Netflix can play MCSM, Stadia can play Google Drive) and more (update comment)
This is one of the most well thought out and logical arguments that I have seen on RUclips for Stadia. For some reason most RUclipsrs are Screaming like the sky is falling and dropping s**t on Stadia like it's going to be hot garbage. I personally have most consoles, a PC, multiple android devices and obv the retro stuff and I agree with you Convenience is what will work for Stadia. I'm playing then have to catch the bus to work so I leave and just play on my android phone as I go and then do the same at work on breaks etc. Yes there are data caps for some people but most gamers that I know purposely avoid data cap providers. I have unlimited broadband (truly unlimited too without the Bulls**t fair usage clauses) and on my Mobile I have an EE Smart Plan that gives me Music, Video and Games data for free plus 120GB for normal browsing etc. All in all I'm looking forward to it and appreciate your unbiased effort to review this.
The lag concerns don't really matter if you're using a 5G band for your router, I mean, I played through the whole Gears 4 campaign, Sonic Unleashed, and bloodborne without a single hiccup when streaming through the Xbox companion app or PlayStation now
Great video! No data caps for me rocking 1000mbs, so virtually no obstacle trying it out. But can't ignore the fact that the exclusives are a fair bit short and as a collector this really blows the experience for me personally.
I'm keeping my mind open about it. I have a switch and I would love to play certain games that don't release on that platform. Also, many games I play and beat I don't play again (unless it's REALLY good). So paying the $60 once and being done with it is fine by me.
Stadia seems like its well suited for large groups of people without the networking hassle. you could easily have LOCAL group events ( sports games, a royal rumble wrestling thing or whatever or the current team FPS ). no more hardware based player number restrictions for local games.
Well... being old enough to be your Dad (I'm 46) I think I'll always prefer physical games... still got all I own over the early eighties C64/Spectrum upwards to today on Ps4 ! I am in UK and have no data cap either but I am still on the fence with this but I can see it taking off. Unfortunately as the years go by I still feel physical games will slowly die... we already have digital only titles... oh well.... Great video mate you seriously put effort into this research and ideas... Thank you.
@@jasonliu7936 fair point there mate and you're right there are many indie games that wouldn't of made the physical releases and are fantastic.. BUT... I tell you when I do have an issue with digital.. when it's and A title release AND more money than a physical game ! On occasions they charge more for games that have no package manufacture costs and can't be sold on if you don't like it ? Sure.. they will always have it "in stock" if you like when you click buy now and no delivery expense but when I see a game for say £55 on PSN and on Amazon in physical form for £40 it's a crazy difference... I think I'm just getting old 🤣🤣
Averages per state/territory/province mean absolutely nothing i live in rural canada and the speed of the average homes in my area is around 160 kb per second
@@chasura1 90% of China has 100mb( or so they say), which in reality is like 4-6mb dl. In big cities, its as fast as anywhere in the world. Of cuz, most internet is unreachable within China but that's another story. Even with VPN I am having about 300kb-600kb dl in mid of nowhere on 4g.;p
My problem with your explanation about losing games when Stadia shuts down is that there is a difference between downloading a game off a digital store (eshop, PSN, Xbox Live, etc.) and Stadia which is streaming. The former has the games installed to the hard drive so you can play them anytime even when the games are taken off those marketplaces
I feel now after watching this I must say, I agree more with stadia than I did before. However, I’m still on with physical consoles. But I do like that you can hook it up anywhere I think that’s a great advantage for it.
I was an early adopter of OnLive, as well. I loved the service. I even bought microconsoles for myself and friends. But I won't be getting Stadia.... Because I now live in China. :)
It's a cool idea for sure, but I'm not sure that I'm going to immediately jump on the boat just yet. I'd like to see what the initial launch looks like, and if it's actually a decent system, I'll try it out. That way if it ends up being more hype than it was worth, I'm not disappointed.
Drew talking about how we buy games to play "in the moment" when I and many of my friends have backlogs a mile long. You've made some good points, but I'm still not interested.
thebainiac1 I have a backlog too, but that’s because of the games included with Xbox live/game pass, other subscription services and great sales I have come across adding the backlog. When I buy a game day one, I’m buying it to play it day one! Otherwise I just wasted money when I know for certain it will be on sale in the next 3-6 months when I am ready to play it. I mean that’s how I look at it. Are you really buying games day one if you have no interest in playing day one? Am I missing something?
@@AhmazinSKM AhmazinSKM AhmazinSKM that's the thing though. When I say "in the moment" I don't always mean day one. I'm a frequent visitor of flea markets and second hand stores, which often means I buy multiple games in one visit. I do intend to play those games, but most of the time I'm in the middle of another one and I don't want to just drop it and start something else. So on the backlog they go. And I'm not in the position to be playing video games for most of my time because of work, so it could be days, or weeks, and sometimes even months between play sessions. So if I'm not able to take advantage of it, that Subscription free becomes wasted money. Perhaps if I was retired and had nothing else to do it'd be more appealing, but for my own position, a one-time price for a game is a better option
I would be interested to see him make another video now. With most of the features nowhere to be found and the free service still not available, and a sever lack of new games, would he feel the same? Oh, and you can only play on google phones, and you have to use the google chromecast to play on tv. It just doesnt get better, in my opinion.
I remember when I used to buy and collect CD's (a giant collection that I still have to store/contend with) DVD's and then Blue Rays, and even books. All of those physical forms of media I no longer buy, and with the exceprion of kindle books, the movies and music and tv series I don't even usually download, it's streaming those media. The future of gaming is really no different.
Honestly it’s not for me, but like everything Walt Disney did, he always did the most craziest things. The first ever animated film, Disney theme parks, which both projects have a lot of criticisms on it, Stadia may have a similar fate to the Disney Parks. However it scares me as I love physical copies. However you do have a great point.
Clap, clap! Wow. How beautifuly you put this together. Nice little research you did to be very specific on everything. Really nice roundup. Thank you sir
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"In 5 to 10 years if that cartridge or disk were to break, in most cases it's no big deal. By then, the game has dropped in price and you grab another copy for cheap" *Laughs in NEO-GEO*
Laughs
Much like I'm afraid a lot of video he did some very significant over-simplification of the situation.
*cries in neo geo
*Laughs in ACA NEOGEO*
@Skunket Yeah, it's called NES Mini, and Nintendo Online. If you ain't gonna play it, maybe it will be for the best to use that money in other more useful stuff.
Data caps are stupid in the first place. It's not like there's a limited supply of internet.
yeah
@@Mr.Tacoman999 and that money could be used to make games or pay employees
There's only a limited supply of energy in the universe to power that internet, though.
@@h8GW and who claims to own that energy?
@@Mr.Tacoman999 Yes this is All true , BUT do not lie to Yourself... IT is NOT how things always Work. People made sure it is that way , by MAKING laws that way. The faster the population understands that this is actually how the world works , People in power will always tell you , ''' That's life , when in reality they have the levers
Imagine playing a first person shooter on your fridge.
In portrait view?
Freeware Doom?
@@mr-turnip it adds a challenge to first person shooters.
Try it out sometime
@Gabriel Leones Those suck.
Played on Gucci™ Smart Toilet
All right; you've convinced me that it's not worthless garbage, but it's still not something I particularly want, especially since I don't trust my internet to be good enough.
Neither people trusted Netflix when it first came out in 2013 nor people are trusting Stadia even before the launch. I didn't even have a 1mbit/s Internet Connection in 2013, and watching films in streaming was in my opinion a failed market from the beginning. Look at Netflix now; everyone can support it and everyone loves it, and I can tell you that the same thing will be probably happening sometimes in the future with Stadia, trust me
My internet is garbo, yet i still preordered it.
@@massimomenato " says hopefully "
yah, than it's not particularly for you then, but for millions of people, this is a huge money saver for them. millions want to experience high end gaming but can't afford the machines to do so, but they can afford at least a nice enough internet connection and a stadia membership monthly, this will let them play the games they want.
@@massimomenato Rule # 6025 never trust anyone who say "Trust me "
You need to film in 8k so we can see your glorious hair in the best quality.
^^ THIS ^^
But people in the US can't see it, that will max out there data cap :P
Descenter1976 hey I have no data cap shut up
@@aimwell8813 Neither do I, but I'm still hoping Stadia fails. Also, I don't have a 4K screen, let alone 8K.
@@edvance1030 im actually liking this stadia stuff. Always upgrading
I don't think my neighbor's WiFi is good enough to stream Stadia. Lmfao 🤣
You check it on projectstream.google.com/speedtest to see if you can play on staida.
You might be the wrong person to ask but like I want to buy internet cuz I don't got it yet and I just wanna ask which one is better and it's prices and does the prices go up? I might've not explained this really well but correct me if it's not specific. Ohh annd you might be a kid...,but I'm a kid too.
@@wrmoose6542 thx
@@fanboy7718 np
Repeatable
I'm just shocked that Americans still have data caps on their Internet. Is it still 2004?
Seattle.
I live in Virginia and I don't
It's only in some areas where the companies are greedy
Finesse Kid true.
For reals lol good thing i pay for unlimited
“I literally could not pay for worse internet”
_laughs in 2 Mb/s download_
_laughs in 2 Kb/s WiFi_
Laughs in dial up
*Laughs in 10 GB data cap*
Laughs in 8b/sec WiFi
*Laughs in leeching from my brother*
Once I'm finished with this I'll have 5mins before the direct
same bro lmao
Lol
I’m watching the direct on my iPad rn
Have fun
THERE ARE MORE DLC FIGHTERS COMING. Your welcome.
I remember back when it took 12 hours to download Skyrim on PC
Original Skyrim was like 5GB. I remember downloading God of War Ascension on my PS3 which was around 35 GB and it took days.
Mate, it still takes me 12 hours to download Skyrim
@@weaverquest Ever download GTAV in under a month? 'Cause I haven't.
Took almost 3 weeks for me as I was overseas at the time. Good thing I like owning things as I'll never be able to take this crap there
@@Jess_IsCringe my record is 1hour and 10mins
Finally, someone using their brain when looking at Stadia. I have no clue if Stadia will work well or not, but everyone crapping all over it before it actually comes out is really annoying.
Thank you!
so true.
ind
Stadia: *exists*
Game Reviewers: *child voice* I’m gonna report yoouu.
@@northamerica5539 NO DON'T CALL KAREN **DIES BECAUSE OF A VIOLENT FART ATTACK**
the video buffered when you made it buffer
bufferception
I like the concept, but physical is life.
Why not both? I believe the two can coexist. I don't find it likely that streaming would cause physical gaming to be phased out or go extinct. There will always be demand for it and therefore a market.
@@kidamnesiak1 Well I live out in the country and satellite internet connection runs pretty slow.
I've noticed that these days I've had to download content once I've put the disk in my console. What happens If I change consoles and I don't have that data anymore. Will servers still have it 10 years later? Probably not. My physical media is suddenly useless.
@@MarvMavro no it isn't, all the stuff that is downloaded is updates and DLC but the PS4/Xbox one/Nintendo switch can still run the game (i don't have a working PC so i don't know how PC's do it but the disk's will still work on consoles)
@@nathanmead140 Yeah I get that but I've noticed a lot of the time that we're seeing a lot of day one patches and updates fix games that have come out. 10 years later I could be left with a broken game if the servers have been shut down.
Yeah, I would say you pretty much covered it all. I am amazed at how much homework you did. Thanks for the info.
I’m seriously considering trying it for a few months. I’ll never get rid of my Xbox or my Switch. But having 4 boys from 14 to 8 in my house, not having a box to worry about or games to misplace or destroy. Sounds good to me.
My view exactly
This
I have to say as a collector and one of the people that are sad to see physical media go, this review has gotten me very interested and helped open me up to the idea. I appreciate your honesty and great insight coming from someone that holds physical collections as important as most casual gamers. I think Stadia is going to be huge, and I really think it's where everything is going to go in the future. Yes yes "oh google / amazon / apple bad" or whatever people want to say, but if I TRUST a company to do it right, it's going to be Google.
Well, that comment didn’t age well. Physical media is still on the market despite all the bullshit the media says is on its way out.
I got time before the direct. Thank you, Drew.
i keep my entire Steam library of about 1000 games on hard drives. and there are emulation tool to spoof the steam.api so with those i will NEVER lose my steam library
If steam get shutdown, then you will most likely not be able to play game because of steam online DRM BUT you can go into offline mode but only before it get shutdown.
I'm sorry to tell you that you seem to be in a critical stage of a Hoarding Disorder my friend hahaha
@@wrmoose6542 Well Valve have already come out and said that if Steam get's shutdown they have an ability to unlock your library and will remove all DRM which can be used on any PC.
@@ezzahhh are you sure, that seem a like something a lot of game dev wii hate
@@wrmoose6542 Yeah they promised multiple times to people who have contacted support to query what would happen if steam shutdown. A quick google search claried this too as they have also made an official statement regarding it, "The owners, Valve, have promised that if they ever do close the Steam servers then they will first make a patch to keep games running without them."
Also further articles state that "Steam has, in all likelihood, already arranged to deactivate online verification and have a third party host the software for download." You still own the games you bought on Steam so devs can't really do anything about it if you already purchased it, you have the right to keep it forever, regardless if it's digital.
I'm glad that a collector, such as yourself, made this video. You did your research, were objective and made your point while being neutral.
You've really changed my mind about Stadia. That's for the objective and detailed look at this exciting new platform.
That buffering fakeout was gold lol
This video is really well put together, Nintendrew! This will be the way some new people find your channel, and it's not a bad first impression!
My first time too on this channel. Well impressed
You know you're early when the video is 360p.
You know your late when it says the video was uploaded 1 day ago
Or late and it's 240p!!
Had that happen a few times because i was doing updates or downloads for apps while watching RUclips with it set to "auto"
Thank you for this actually rational look at Stadia! All the negativity has been disheartening to me because I'm very excited about it. Yeah, maybe it's not for everyone, but it's perfect for me and my husband! We don't keep up to date with consoles and our computers really can't run a lot of the games we want to play!
I'm excited for it too! I preordered the Founder's edition!
in turkey u pay 20$ for 5mbps down
pretty awful.. is that in the cities too though? ookla says your average dl speed for fixed broadband is 22.07 mbps www.speedtest.net/global-index/turkey#fixed
@@Znip12132like Drew forgot, yeah. Even here (Greece) I can have a better connection that supports stadia. But I'll need like 30-40 euros to pay. Stadia is practically non existent here because of that costs.
@@CasualPanels Well, for now Stadia doesn't exist anywhere :) Not until november. And not in Greece unfortunately. They'll properly wait a couple of years before they introduce it, so that the average internet speed has improved in that country.
Same for Poland, average internet speed is too slow
I'm in South Europe and I have 9mbps down and 5mbps lol
I've never really understood the hatred people have for Stadia. I just think it's such a cool idea
Its a cool idea until you look at the fine print. Youre a 140$ fee for the console for the privilege of then buying full priced games with the following risks/stipulations. Dont have high quality internet? Well thats a flat nope to using it then, period. Also, your games are entirely dependant on an internet connnection so if your internet is sluggish or not at peak when you wanna play thats an issue, as well as the very high likelihood that you will lose your games in a couple of years once the server supporting that game isnt making enough money to justify them being up 24/7. At that point you might as well pay a few hundred dollars more for console that might not deliver the highest performance or constant portability, but is 1000% more reliable. The main point of hatred from people is that with stadia, you no longer own the games you pay for, your access to your purchases is completely to the whims of a company out to make money above all else. At least with normal digital storefronts you have the files on your system.
It's like people buy $500 consoles to then have the privilege of buying games..
@@NeutralGuyDoubleZero 140$ is about the price a chrome cast ultra and a controller cost lol you can use the chrome cast for a lots of thing and the controller on pc for any pc games. So your lil hate is useless.
@@NeutralGuyDoubleZero Also the games are hosted at Google not the game developper ;)
@@zadarblack I apologize for misunderstanding the up front costs, which does help it a lot, but at the end of the day it still doesnt fix the other main problems i have with it.
Youre eating up a massive chunk of your data if you have a data cap, to purchase at full price the mere promise of access to said game. Along with the issues of varying internet connection speeds and possible input lag issues, Google's unreliability with sticking to projects, and it trying to punch into a crowded and suspicious market, im fairly confident stadia will not be the one to deliver the promised silky smooth streaming experience on launch nor will it be given the 2-3 years it needs to better settle. As a side thing game streaming is a neat, but as a mainstream option that becomes successful and draws attention is quite scary, having to rely on companies to allow access to your games. Steam lets you download the actual files and will be cracked a couple months after steam goes down guaranteed.
And that was precisely my point about google hosting the servers. How long until they decide a game isnt worth supporting its server? Its very possible you could lose access to a full priced game purchase only a couple of years later, especially from how they worded their terms agreement.
Your thoughts were analytical, the video well done, and honest. Despite your excellent review, I can safely say I’m just not interested in this product. A couple reasons, my internet isn’t the fastest for one thing. My biggest reason though I relate back to X-men Arcade for XBOX 360. I missed my opportunity to buy it, and now I can’t have it anymore. Or the many wonderful titles Wii Store had, but Wii no longer has online support. By contrast, my favorite Original Xbox, Game Cube, even my Sega Genesis games are readily available to play whenever I like, mine forever. I don’t hate Stadia, I’m just not interested. I’m sure it’s impressive though.
Jeffrey Schirota Very reasonable way of looking at it.
emulation
The thing I don't understand is literally everyone talks about how Stadia is garbage because their internet connection is not good enough or someones internet connection might not be enough. But when a new game comes out that requires a 1000$ PC to play, noone's complaining.
Nothing is for everyone. If your internet is shit, stop bothering about Stadia and let it be judged by the people this is actually for. People with good Internet connection.
@@justnotmyname1 the thing is google knows the current state of internet isn't optimal for their service. this service is really made for 5g and fiber optic connections. google knows adoption would be slow early on, but it's worth their investment now so that when internet connection speed catches up to their vision, everything would be ready. heres what i mean, according to ericsson's projection 1.5 billion would have adopted 5g by 2025 (not including fiber optic internet). investors are asking themselves what can they between now and 2025 that lay the groundwork for when the market is ready. improving server infrastructures, optimizing code, fine tuning user interface, building a library of ready to play games, building name recognition. all this takes time, its not gonna get done overnight. thats why they are launching the service prematurely, they are doing the work necessary so that in 5 years it would all be ready.
I might buy 1 or 2 games just to test it out but I'm more in interested in ps now and xcloud because both have a huge library of games unlike stadia where you still need to pay for games which makes the prospect of these games going away one day hurt even more. Personally I would like all consoles to have physical, digital and streaming support.
Thank you! I literally have been telling people the same points you've mentioned. The only one that surprised me was your explanation on data caps while downloading/updating games.
as a linux gamer I am hoping that Stadia may bridge the gap for me with some games like Borderlands 3, or others that dont run natively.
Isn't Steam already bridging such gaps? So far i tried Steam on Linux only on an old laptop with 1.5 GB memory but the games satisfied with these specs and not explicitly requiring another OS worked very well.
@@keinunvergebenesaliasgefunden yea, they are doing a good job but there are some games rhat dont work still and Epic store isnt supporting Linux at all
Informative, thank you. But not my speed. I don't like being tied to licenses and renting items. I want to physically own something tangible. Thank Crom for retro games.
Same.
You realize even physical games are licensed right? Devs have the right to make your physical license non-functional.
@@tcs199111 What they gonna do burn your house down and come get that physical copy?😆
@@CAPCOM784 no? Just revoke your license.
@@tcs199111 I guess technically they can go online and turn off your disc from working. But why would they. They never have that I'm aware of for any console. Plus you could unplug it or go offline first
Great video! Loved it, you put a lot of effort into your videos and they are all masterpieces 😁
Very compelling arguments. I will now definitely take a look at this when it comes out in November.
4:45 I knew that was happening, but for a split second after it happened I thought "noooooo! Wait I'm fine"
tbh the size of the buffering sign gave it away since I'm watching on a 720p display
4:45 INSTANTLY TRIGGERED. well done, you legit got me.
I'm stil skeptical I've no doubt you've tried it under the most optimal conditions set up by google plus Any artifacting will annoy me to an unreasonable degree.
You think a public convention is optimal conditions? You are joking right?
I don't know why anyone would think Stadia will run 100%?Look at RUclips and how messed up it is and your gonna tell me with a straight face that Stadia will run 100% without any problems...Hell Xbox ,PS4, and Switch don't even run perfect so there's no way Stadia is gonna do it???
@@tcs199111 yeah, they're going to have a special build, and nearby servers dedicated to servicing the convention.
People need to realize that movies and music are already available on similar services at an instant whenever you want. There's no reason games can't be the same.
Inkshock there is no difference dude. The tech is getting there. We cant make progress if we dont try these things. A service like xcloud would hypoethetically allow you to play your games on any device through streaming or natively on a console. Options are amazing. So many times people travel with no way to play their favorite games.
@@UltraPrimeHunter There really is a difference. Movies and music aren't interactive and aren't as large. They can also be fully loaded ahead of time while games are always running.
@@NIN10DOXD What you said basically equate too "Games require better internet" yes they do and we will get better internet. Progress starts SOMEWHERE!
Honestly, all micro consoles are the perfect example of a product of the times
All these other RUclipsrs posting all the negative feedback without actually doing the research like yourself. This is exactly why you are a quality channel with more than quality content. This explained why Stadia is a good thing.
Personally very excited for Stadia. I have fiber internet service and a houseful of 4K TVs, so it's going to be perfect for me! I can understand why it won't work for some, but there are many hardware-based alternatives if it doesn't work for you. Great insight into this service!
Yeah, the average connection can support 1 stream. How many of those people live alone?
1. You don't need to live alone you need to game alone. The percentage of households that have 2 people simultaneously gaming will be very very low
2. If it is the case for you. Bad luck. This is not for you. Move on. Noone asks Microsoft "what if I can't afford the XBox"?
The fact that this absolutely useless comment has so many likes just shows how many people desperately want Stadia to be bad and I just don't get why.
@@justnotmyname1 And the fact that you don't understand that it's not just gaming that uses the internet connection is just a shocking display of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
How many Girlfriends/Wives/kids do you think might want to use Netflix while you play? To name just one example.
@@fgregerfeaxcwfeffece netflix, browsing etc. Will not take up much of your internet bandwidth. If you aren't like 3 Mbit above the limit that shouldn't be a problem
@@justnotmyname1 3Mbit might be the average rate of the pixel mush netflix provides but the average could barely take it. And have you heard of buffering? Even their DRM ridden Garbage does it to a minor degree. The problem stands the technologie is just unreliable as shit and scales like shit. To make it work we need fibre as standard. It would have been doable for decades, it just wasn't done. It's absolutely the fault of ISPs but the blame game just doesn't get you any winners. You also dismiss any kind of burst, like aforementioned internet browsing tends to do quite often. Do you know how big the average website nowadays is even without any big multimedia content? Just the javascript libs can go up to several megabytes. Which will result in several seconds of heavy stuttering in truly random intervals. Game streaming can't buffer in the slightest. Every frame you buffer would be 1 frame additional delay. In other words absolute no go.
Without fiber to the home playing stadia will for the most people feel like driving on the countryside without any suspension. And the occasional getting stuck in mud.
Also the general track record for streaming providers looks like trash so far. See pixel mush netflix. It's going to be worse with stadia for the named reasons. And netflix has pretty much any time in the world to do good encoding. WIth game streaming you don't get that luxury. See delay.
@@fgregerfeaxcwfeffece Ya internet will be a problem for a lot of people but Stadia isn't for everyone. For those with unreliable or slow internet get a physical console but for others Stadia is a perfect and inexpensive option.
Releases this video in the middle of a direct wait. I have to make choices now?
The direct probably wont start in another 23 minutes so there's time
Oh my gosh finally someone who knows what they are talking about! Literally every video talking about Stadia is hating on it. What a great vid!
I can't talk for every country, but i think the people commenting here saying that is not for them because of the internet connection is mostly what you talked about, it's a bit scary because it's a huge change on what you're used to, it sounds too magical, so one tends to nitpick the internet thing. There's always money that you have to spend apart from your game in order to get the full experience. Be it PC, Nintendo, PS or Xbox, you have to get money to get the game, sometimes to get controllers, you need a nice TV that supports a good resolution, because if you play in an old TV it's gonna look like shit. This is the same thing. If you wanna play nice in this, upgrade your internet connection. I mean c'mon, you don't have to pay for the console, you probably don't have to pay for the controller, you may not need to get a screen if you already own a computer or a phone. You don't have to upgrade your components or buy a new version. You only pay for the game. You don't even need to buy space to storage those games. That's another thing, you need space in whatever device you're playing on. Not here.
I get that there are people geniunely not interested, but i think most are just still skeptical. I don't want this to overthrow the entire market, but man, when PS made better graphics, nintendo had to make their graphics better in order to compete. When the Wii came out, other systems tried new motion controls that eventually have led to VR. If there was not as much people buying the system the mass production of VR as a considerable price would still be years away. If PC didn't have services as convenient as steam, there's a lot of online stuff that wouldn't have happened on the systems. The new ideas the companies have in order to compete only do good for the industry, since we the players get to play in new or better ways.
Even if this is not as good as it seems, it still opens up the possibility to integrate effective cloud gaming and the other concepts that the service is bringing to the table. Imagine how could would it be to do the same things Stadia offers but in a Switch, a PS, an Xbox, or new things that come.
I personally love Nintendo and i have their systems because of the exclusives. I love Mario, Zelda and Smash much more than other games... but i can't afford to get a second console. I have to ask to someone to lend me their system to play Dark Souls 3, Shadow of the colossus, or other games that are not on the system and wont come out on it. With this i can play some of those in the things i already have, a pc, a phone, a notebook... Hell, i could even play in my free time on my office. I don't have to install anything on it.
How is this not appealing to people, i think the only reason is misinformation about the connection and fear of change. I thought it wouldn't work because of the connection, but i have not tried it. You did.
I think the platform sounds great. I just hate their ads.
Really good arguments here, it seems you have thought out every rebuttal to every argument. nice video!
Exceptionally well done video with factual information. Seriously impressed with Nintendrew's professional input and logic in this video. I'm now a fan.
I wasnt really excited for stadia but you've really changed my mind, I might stick with xbox's streaming because I already have an account and some games, stadia just needs some exclusives to get me on board
I dunno why people get so mad about stuff like this existing. If it sounds like a bad idea, it ain't for you lmao just don't buy into it and if it really is a bad idea, it'll die out.
Physical is not going away. Things like IndieBox and Limited Run are prime examples that it's still strong for even niche games and no matter how obsolete current consoles are making it, it's still there. I get being sceptical but to be angry and shut down those who may actually be interested is daft.
I guess it like the old "console wars" again but instead of the consoles it's physical vs digital?😆
I am not sure why no one has a problem paying for multiplayer on Live, PSN, Nintendo, but they have a problem paying a monthly fee with Stadia? I'm not defending anything just genuinely curios. Onlive worked 10 years ago, not perfectly but it worked with one data center. Google is supposed to have coverage around the country from what I understand.
Bacause stadia is online streamed meaning you can only go online to play them anyway with xbox and playstation you dont need to have wifi to play a majority of the games unless theyre online only games or you love multiplayer that much. Id rather just be able to play a game and not have to worry about if my internet connection goes out.
Nice to hear some positives about stadia for a change... but i still think paying full price for streaming service with nothing physical is a terrible idea... i wouldnt call it a "ripoff" BUT the idea of spending hundreds or even thousands of dollars and someday blink its gone and you have NOTHING... i think it would go a long way to to knock off even just 10% of the full price or offer some sort of insurance to users (especially if the unlikely event of stadia failing so bad at the beginning it dies happens)
Also one troublesome thought i wish you could have brought up is the idea of google having full control of you library... meaning they could restrict, ban, or delete people using Google's service for whatever reason google sees fit... I like to hear some positives about stadia but those our my concerns in using such a service and i still will pass when it comes out, great video though :)
Way to go Nintendrew! Obviously you put allot of effort in this video. Very informative. Like others have said...You changed my mind about Stadia. Now I'm looking forward to it...Thanks!!
Im personally excited for something like xcloud because ideally it will mean I can stream a game on my phone and then continue playing where i left off, natively on my console.
Great video! You actually changed my thoughts on Google Stadia and I might have to try it out now
Great, balanced video on the pros/cons of Stadia. Thanks!
I mainly agree with you, Stadia could be a huge thing. But eventually it really depends on which games will be available on Stadia.
You got a new subscriber of me with this video! An awesome down to earth and sensible point of view on the potential of Stadia unlike 99% of the other videos disregarding their standing on the subject. Awesome job! (Plus I LOVE your room...damn that’s an overload of warm and fuzzy nostalgia 😊)
I have 12mb down and .75 up. Thanks Adsl2. Gree......tin.....gs from A...A..Austrai.....lia.
All hail internet that doesn't actually work!
Why isn't the text upside down
Man, you're lucky. I'm sitting over here with 3-6mbps down in Illinois...
Nicolas Warren same here. It’s also expensive just to have that here because of the lack of competition.
I was really surprised to see him only pay $45/month of 70 Mb/s. That’s only $10 more than what mine costs smh
I think another aspect that doesn't get a lot of attention is not only the graphical processing advantage but the freedom of essentially unlimited computing and storage. They could have ginormous 10TB games with super-advanced enemy AI, Ray-Tracing, 1000 person Battle Royale, etc. I could see in a few short years, having a single local console would essentially be obsolete...like hosting your own email server.
Ill believe it when i see it, but im happy to change my mind
Got mine yesterday (11/20/19), played Destiny 2 over WiFi on my television. I love the experience, no lags or hiccups at all. Just need Google to continue adding new games. Long Live STADIA!
now this right here is a Google Stadia video thx god
I am excited, but for all the let's plays or potential games! Only big downsides I see are - Less likely for Google Drive on Switch - Lack of free games (if I ported my game, Puzzling Problems, I would have it be free) - Lack of non-games (if Netflix can play MCSM, Stadia can play Google Drive) and more (update comment)
This is one of the most well thought out and logical arguments that I have seen on RUclips for Stadia. For some reason most RUclipsrs are Screaming like the sky is falling and dropping s**t on Stadia like it's going to be hot garbage. I personally have most consoles, a PC, multiple android devices and obv the retro stuff and I agree with you Convenience is what will work for Stadia. I'm playing then have to catch the bus to work so I leave and just play on my android phone as I go and then do the same at work on breaks etc. Yes there are data caps for some people but most gamers that I know purposely avoid data cap providers. I have unlimited broadband (truly unlimited too without the Bulls**t fair usage clauses) and on my Mobile I have an EE Smart Plan that gives me Music, Video and Games data for free plus 120GB for normal browsing etc. All in all I'm looking forward to it and appreciate your unbiased effort to review this.
The way you keep everything organized pleases me
I'm totally on board with basically everything you said in this video. Excited to see what Stadia brings next month!
Same here! I preordered the Founder's edition!
The lag concerns don't really matter if you're using a 5G band for your router, I mean, I played through the whole Gears 4 campaign, Sonic Unleashed, and bloodborne without a single hiccup when streaming through the Xbox companion app or PlayStation now
You actually kinda changed my mind about it, which isn't easy. GG
Great video! No data caps for me rocking 1000mbs, so virtually no obstacle trying it out. But can't ignore the fact that the exclusives are a fair bit short and as a collector this really blows the experience for me personally.
Thanks for the ♥️ Drew!
1000mbs. Ho Lee Fuk...
You totally got me on that fake loading screen 😂
It could have been rotating just around the nose
Great video! The fact that you made the video seem like it had to buffer earned my subscription I got lowkey annoyed with my internet 😂😂
I'm keeping my mind open about it. I have a switch and I would love to play certain games that don't release on that platform. Also, many games I play and beat I don't play again (unless it's REALLY good). So paying the $60 once and being done with it is fine by me.
You can back up all your games on steam to a disc or usb. Stream has stated if they go out of business they will give users time to back up games
Good take. I also like Metal Jesus's take. But you're both right. It's whatever suits you best, just do your homework first.
4:51 before mini nintendrew walked in he actually got me
This was a wonderfully done video. Great job!
Stadia seems like its well suited for large groups of people without the networking hassle. you could easily have LOCAL group events ( sports games, a royal rumble wrestling thing or whatever or the current team FPS ). no more hardware based player number restrictions for local games.
I'm definitely looking forward to stadia
4:46 he really did get me I thought my WiFi disconnected 😂😂
Tony Flood me too
Well... being old enough to be your Dad (I'm 46) I think I'll always prefer physical games... still got all I own over the early eighties C64/Spectrum upwards to today on Ps4 ! I am in UK and have no data cap either but I am still on the fence with this but I can see it taking off. Unfortunately as the years go by I still feel physical games will slowly die... we already have digital only titles... oh well.... Great video mate you seriously put effort into this research and ideas... Thank you.
@@jasonliu7936 fair point there mate and you're right there are many indie games that wouldn't of made the physical releases and are fantastic.. BUT... I tell you when I do have an issue with digital.. when it's and A title release AND more money than a physical game ! On occasions they charge more for games that have no package manufacture costs and can't be sold on if you don't like it ? Sure.. they will always have it "in stock" if you like when you click buy now and no delivery expense but when I see a game for say £55 on PSN and on Amazon in physical form for £40 it's a crazy difference... I think I'm just getting old 🤣🤣
Dude thank you so much for this. Not bashing the unknown and truly putting thought into your opinions good or bad.
Averages per state/territory/province mean absolutely nothing i live in rural canada and the speed of the average homes in my area is around 160 kb per second
That's worse than China...;p
At those speeds Stadia ain't for you.
Of cause average speed means nothing to you. The point being made is in general internet speeds are good enough.
@@rockie8254 which part of China?
@@chasura1 90% of China has 100mb( or so they say), which in reality is like 4-6mb dl. In big cities, its as fast as anywhere in the world. Of cuz, most internet is unreachable within China but that's another story. Even with VPN I am having about 300kb-600kb dl in mid of nowhere on 4g.;p
My problem with your explanation about losing games when Stadia shuts down is that there is a difference between downloading a game off a digital store (eshop, PSN, Xbox Live, etc.) and Stadia which is streaming. The former has the games installed to the hard drive so you can play them anytime even when the games are taken off those marketplaces
I feel now after watching this I must say, I agree more with stadia than I did before. However, I’m still on with physical consoles. But I do like that you can hook it up anywhere I think that’s a great advantage for it.
Great video! I loved the analogy towards the end with Google's magic self upgrading console.
We are really looking forward to Stadia! Already preorderd!
I was an early adopter of OnLive, as well. I loved the service. I even bought microconsoles for myself and friends.
But I won't be getting Stadia.... Because I now live in China. :)
Great video man! I really enjoyed your view on it.
It's a cool idea for sure, but I'm not sure that I'm going to immediately jump on the boat just yet. I'd like to see what the initial launch looks like, and if it's actually a decent system, I'll try it out. That way if it ends up being more hype than it was worth, I'm not disappointed.
Drew talking about how we buy games to play "in the moment" when I and many of my friends have backlogs a mile long. You've made some good points, but I'm still not interested.
thebainiac1 I have a backlog too, but that’s because of the games included with Xbox live/game pass, other subscription services and great sales I have come across adding the backlog. When I buy a game day one, I’m buying it to play it day one! Otherwise I just wasted money when I know for certain it will be on sale in the next 3-6 months when I am ready to play it.
I mean that’s how I look at it. Are you really buying games day one if you have no interest in playing day one? Am I missing something?
@@AhmazinSKM AhmazinSKM AhmazinSKM that's the thing though. When I say "in the moment" I don't always mean day one. I'm a frequent visitor of flea markets and second hand stores, which often means I buy multiple games in one visit. I do intend to play those games, but most of the time I'm in the middle of another one and I don't want to just drop it and start something else. So on the backlog they go. And I'm not in the position to be playing video games for most of my time because of work, so it could be days, or weeks, and sometimes even months between play sessions. So if I'm not able to take advantage of it, that Subscription free becomes wasted money. Perhaps if I was retired and had nothing else to do it'd be more appealing, but for my own position, a one-time price for a game is a better option
Oh my god I’m actually considering buying a stadia, I never thought this would happen.
Thank you finally someone who completely gets it.. I am going to share and repost this everywhere..
I would be interested to see him make another video now. With most of the features nowhere to be found and the free service still not available, and a sever lack of new games, would he feel the same? Oh, and you can only play on google phones, and you have to use the google chromecast to play on tv. It just doesnt get better, in my opinion.
Super concise and clean rational review.... breath taking quality and value you provide
I remember when I used to buy and collect CD's (a giant collection that I still have to store/contend with) DVD's and then Blue Rays, and even books. All of those physical forms of media I no longer buy, and with the exceprion of kindle books, the movies and music and tv series I don't even usually download, it's streaming those media. The future of gaming is really no different.
That room is wroth hundreds of thousands...
Good to hear a positive run-down on this, people or being negative even before it releases.
Hey Drew! Are you excited for the Nintendo Direct?
Absolutely!
Honestly it’s not for me, but like everything Walt Disney did, he always did the most craziest things. The first ever animated film, Disney theme parks, which both projects have a lot of criticisms on it, Stadia may have a similar fate to the Disney Parks. However it scares me as I love physical copies. However you do have a great point.
I think Stadia can survive in this market, it's not my cup of tea but I think there's a huge market for it.
Clap, clap! Wow. How beautifuly you put this together. Nice little research you did to be very specific on everything. Really nice roundup. Thank you sir