Hi Tanner, thank you for a very well timed video. I've been doing the emotional work, and cognitive work, as well as somatic tracking and meditation for over a year and a half with little to no improvement. I think the missing piece is that I need to slowly and gradually increase my physical activity. I thought that I could do the other work first and then I would be able to increase my physical activity. Which clearly doesn't work. This is exactly what I needed to hear this morning! Thanks! Jim
Great words. In my accute post injury phase, I was in a "small" week, missing work, and fearful. I started binging Tanner's somatic tracking vids, Pain PT's channel, and listening to Nicole Sachs. There is a balance of too much, but I remember peace and sleep coming during a Tanner somatic tracking video. My world continues to expand, and a month ago I feared having to skip a work conference, which I am not skipping. I'm glad I am living in a post-Sarno, neuropasticity-embracing, somatic tracking age. May we together bankrupt the medical industrial complex forcing unnecessary, unsuccessful surgeries on unwitting victims!
Having flairs but I'm just going to keep at it. Approaching my new reality is the way to go! Can't go back to who I was. Time to embrace who I have become.
Thank You 🙏 Tanner. I wanted to avoid..and right now..I am paralytic so I am limited but I do as much as I can. I will remember to not avoid. I was too forceful with my brain training too. I have learned so much from you 😊❤
Thank you Tanner. For physical aches / pains etc., I don’t tend to ‘avoid’ but would you say this is the same with fatigue? Not to avoid social outings etc for example ? My fatigue sensations manifest as head heaviness and blurry vision. ( always there to different degrees ) and I find that more difficult than the aches / pains when out and about
Question is , do you believe and accept that your body heals physical damage, like it has always done in the past. You can't move to any further stage without accepting your physical body has healed and understand that chronic pain is an electrical signal sent up and down the nervous system by the brain.. Your doctors unfortunately are only trained in finding physical reasons or very often assumptions ! . My dad used to be 6ft, he's now 5.5ft, a doctor with MRI evidence would see his entire spine has degenerated in his old age with virtually no more disc spacing left. His spinal bones would therefore be crushing down on his nerves. HE HAS NO PAIN.. Ever heard of leg amputees who feel no pain at the severed stump but their foot , that doesn't exist hurts !. Brain signals !.
Tanner I know you are right and I hate that you are right. I have done everything else and there are still come things that just overwhelm me. If you have huge amount of conditioned responses, do we tackle one thing at a time and master it or do you do a little bit of everything all the time? For example if you need to change shoes get into a new car sleeping in a new bed eat different foods travel without 5000 suitcases do some work, do you just take one item and work on it or do you approach all of them slowly? I found this area so confusing and I feel like I need a lot of one-to-one help for this… thanks 🙏
I actually have a detailed video on conditioned responses coming in the next few weeks. Generally I didn't focus on breaking all my conditioned responses at once, and focused on a few at a time.
Hi Tanner thankyou so much for this video 🙏🙌 question about the avoidance-ive been brain retraining for 1.5 years and come a ling way (from severe floor bound unable to leave the house with cfs to now working 5hrs once or twice a week) i think have condition responses like u mention in this video too. But ive been wondering about working more, like a few days a week. I still often find it really tiring the 5hrs i am doing, and but id love to work more....obviously you dont know my exact situation but do you think working more at this oint would be better than being at home in the same old environment (like its basically saying im ill/not ready if im still at home alot right, like probably being stuck in thoughts a bit much sitting at home) feels really confusing point in recovery where its not helping to be at home alot but then dont know if i can handle working more 😂😅
I unfortunately can't comment on your case directly. However I have seen people fully heal from starting to gradually return to work while using the strategies.
@@painpsychotherapy thank you so much for your reply 🙏❤️ completely appreciate you cannot comment specifically if don't know my case, but really appreciate your answer
If I have a conditioned response of intense anxiety with flying in an airplane, how to go about a graded exposure, since I would not be able to just get on an airplane for a few minutes, and do it everyday?
Sorry to hear about your anxiety. In this situation it would be replicating the conditions when you are about to go on a flight or visualizing it. It is of course a harder one to break due to limitations.
I have been trying flare ups, and am still terrified of certain foods (interstitial cystitis) I haven't had an orange in over four years because citrus is a common flare, used to be one of my favorite fruits. going to eat a small piece tomorrow.
I know this is a few weeks old, but if anyone can weigh in I’m wondering. I’ve tried to approach walking again. After 50 steps or so I sometimes feel a shift in lower back, and that’s been a sign a flare is coming the next day, sometimes really bad & lasting for days. Is it wise to try and walk during intense pain or let it settle. I’ve been too afraid to approach walking now because this has happened several times.
Yes, graded exposure can be difficult and even when done right can trigger pain. Starting small is needed. Also working with a practitioner can be helpful.
@@painpsychotherapy thanks for your reply Tanner. I know this is a long shot but are you available to work with one on one? You’re probably fully booked but it doesn’t hurt to ask.
@@hollydock8608 I currently have a few spots for clients opening up in the near future. However, I am only able to work 1 on 1 with people located in certain provinces in Canada. But my digital course is available worldwide!
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Hi Tanner, thank you for a very well timed video. I've been doing the emotional work, and cognitive work, as well as somatic tracking and meditation for over a year and a half with little to no improvement.
I think the missing piece is that I need to slowly and gradually increase my physical activity. I thought that I could do the other work first and then I would be able to increase my physical activity. Which clearly doesn't work. This is exactly what I needed to hear this morning! Thanks!
Jim
Keep going!
Great words. In my accute post injury phase, I was in a "small" week, missing work, and fearful. I started binging Tanner's somatic tracking vids, Pain PT's channel, and listening to Nicole Sachs. There is a balance of too much, but I remember peace and sleep coming during a Tanner somatic tracking video. My world continues to expand, and a month ago I feared having to skip a work conference, which I am not skipping. I'm glad I am living in a post-Sarno, neuropasticity-embracing, somatic tracking age. May we together bankrupt the medical industrial complex forcing unnecessary, unsuccessful surgeries on unwitting victims!
You are doing great healing work. Keep going!
Having flairs but I'm just going to keep at it. Approaching my new reality is the way to go! Can't go back to who I was. Time to embrace who I have become.
I'm sorry to hear about your flares. Keep going!
I've not been out of pain for 12 weeks. It's debilitating. I've lost so much muscle mass it's insane. I'm a skeleton at this point.
Tough love is needed sometimes… thank you for all you do
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Thank You 🙏 Tanner. I wanted to avoid..and right now..I am paralytic so I am limited but I do as much as I can. I will remember to not avoid. I was too forceful with my brain training too. I have learned so much from you 😊❤
I wish you the best in your healing!
Thank you Tanner. For physical aches / pains etc., I don’t tend to ‘avoid’ but would you say this is the same with fatigue? Not to avoid social outings etc for example ? My fatigue sensations manifest as head heaviness and blurry vision. ( always there to different degrees ) and I find that more difficult than the aches / pains when out and about
Great question 💕🙏 would love to hear tanners answer to this too
The same for me
Sorry to hear about your symptoms. Yes, this would work the same with fatigue. Keep going!
@@painpsychotherapy thankyou Tanner, yes I will keep going. Reassure myself when out and about that these sensations are safe and they can’t hurt me
Thanks Tanner for your very useful and helpful message.
I'm so happy it was helpful! Keep going!
Thank you for the reminder Tanner; it was very helpful to me.❤
I'm so happy my content is helpful. Keep going!
Thanks tanner. I think my biggest problem is fear and doubt. Also extreme anxiety/doom.
Keep going! I wish you the best in your healing!
Do you have a video which shows how to somatic track without following a recording?
How does one get out of the Anxiety mode , or reacting to foods& having food Anxiety etc?
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Thanks for another great video Tanner, I really appreciate all your wonderful videos that are helping me so much with my healing.
I wish you the best in your healing. I hope my content can be helpful for you.
Thank you and god bless you🙏🏽
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It will take time to understand my experience will need space to have a somatic relationship with myself in moments of more nerve activity
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But what if your chronic pain is from actual damage? How do we get past that?
Question is , do you believe and accept that your body heals physical damage, like it has always done in the past. You can't move to any further stage without accepting your physical body has healed and understand that chronic pain is an electrical signal sent up and down the nervous system by the brain.. Your doctors unfortunately are only trained in finding physical reasons or very often assumptions ! . My dad used to be 6ft, he's now 5.5ft, a doctor with MRI evidence would see his entire spine has degenerated in his old age with virtually no more disc spacing left. His spinal bones would therefore be crushing down on his nerves. HE HAS NO PAIN.. Ever heard of leg amputees who feel no pain at the severed stump but their foot , that doesn't exist hurts !. Brain signals !.
Often pain at least is a mix of structural and neuroplastic, and the strategies on my channel could then be potentially helpful.
I know that this is an issue I'm still struggling with. I'm trying to avoid telling myself that "I can't".
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Tanner I know you are right and I hate that you are right. I have done everything else and there are still come things that just overwhelm me.
If you have huge amount of conditioned responses, do we tackle one thing at a time and master it or do you do a little bit of everything all the time? For example if you need to change shoes get into a new car sleeping in a new bed eat different foods travel without 5000 suitcases do some work, do you just take one item and work on it or do you approach all of them slowly? I found this area so confusing and I feel like I need a lot of one-to-one help for this… thanks 🙏
I actually have a detailed video on conditioned responses coming in the next few weeks. Generally I didn't focus on breaking all my conditioned responses at once, and focused on a few at a time.
Excellent thanks Tanner .
Hi Tanner thankyou so much for this video 🙏🙌 question about the avoidance-ive been brain retraining for 1.5 years and come a ling way (from severe floor bound unable to leave the house with cfs to now working 5hrs once or twice a week) i think have condition responses like u mention in this video too. But ive been wondering about working more, like a few days a week. I still often find it really tiring the 5hrs i am doing, and but id love to work more....obviously you dont know my exact situation but do you think working more at this oint would be better than being at home in the same old environment (like its basically saying im ill/not ready if im still at home alot right, like probably being stuck in thoughts a bit much sitting at home) feels really confusing point in recovery where its not helping to be at home alot but then dont know if i can handle working more 😂😅
I unfortunately can't comment on your case directly. However I have seen people fully heal from starting to gradually return to work while using the strategies.
@@painpsychotherapy thank you so much for your reply 🙏❤️ completely appreciate you cannot comment specifically if don't know my case, but really appreciate your answer
If I have a conditioned response of intense anxiety with flying in an airplane, how to go about a graded exposure, since I would not be able to just get on an airplane for a few minutes, and do it everyday?
Sorry to hear about your anxiety. In this situation it would be replicating the conditions when you are about to go on a flight or visualizing it. It is of course a harder one to break due to limitations.
Of course doing this with a therapist could be very helpful in titrating the experience
Did you have massive fatigue and muscle ache after doing graded exposures?
I would have increases in pain at points while doing the graded exposure.
I have been trying flare ups, and am still terrified of certain foods (interstitial cystitis)
I haven't had an orange in over four years because citrus is a common flare, used to be one of my favorite fruits.
going to eat a small piece tomorrow.
I wish you the best in your healing!
I know this is a few weeks old, but if anyone can weigh in I’m wondering. I’ve tried to approach walking again. After 50 steps or so I sometimes feel a shift in lower back, and that’s been a sign a flare is coming the next day, sometimes really bad & lasting for days. Is it wise to try and walk during intense pain or let it settle. I’ve been too afraid to approach walking now because this has happened several times.
Yes, graded exposure can be difficult and even when done right can trigger pain. Starting small is needed. Also working with a practitioner can be helpful.
@@painpsychotherapy thanks for your reply Tanner. I know this is a long shot but are you available to work with one on one? You’re probably fully booked but it doesn’t hurt to ask.
@@hollydock8608 I currently have a few spots for clients opening up in the near future. However, I am only able to work 1 on 1 with people located in certain provinces in Canada. But my digital course is available worldwide!
@@painpsychotherapy I’m in Ontario, could that work?
Did your symptoms include muscle weakness after flare ups?
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@@painpsychotherapy thank you. May I ask did your symptoms include fine motor skills issues with your hands?
Current World Champion in non avoidance has to be Netanyahu and U.S right now. Full ahead captain !
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But I don’t avoid. I travel, I socialize, I volunteer, I exercise. But the pain persists.
This is just one aspect of the healing work that I often see hold people up, but it is not the only factor.
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