That’s the coolest trailer option I’ve ever seen. I’ve been pulling gooseneck horse trailers all my life and never really been fond of bumper hitch camper trailers but this cures the towing and backing issues with bumper pull trailers. Brilliant
Gooseneck, when possible, is THE very best way to pull hands down. We've been hauling horses, cattle and hay, nothing better. Once someone used a gooseneck, there's no going back.
For those asking why. I can only answer for my personal reasons. 1. I have the perfect TT for me. Its paid for and i never wanted a 5th wheel. 2. I like that I would still have the low profile of the TT, but would have the better handling characteristics of a goosneck. 3. I dont know why people keep saying this causing more torque on the trailer frame. Its inducing less than a weight distrubution hitch. The point where it connects is the exact same as being hooked to a receiver. The ball in the bed allows the tongue to move in infinite and continous positions. It cannot bind like a WDH. Your needs will vary of course. But its a great design and would work exactly as intended. Why dont i have one? Because the place i park my trailer wont accommodate the extra length.
That's nice I built one 12 years ago for a 32 foot tag along camper and sold the camper a few years later with it attached to it I mounted a generator on the noise over the back of the truck and a plat forum for storage
I like the idea of this after having a bumper pull RV for about a year now, but the 880lb of this adapter make it a significant beast to mount. $6,000 isn’t crazy money for what you’re getting when you see equalizer hitches going for upwards of $3,000 for some brands.
Perfect I can add at least 8' to my 32 foot bumper pull. Would place some major limits on where I could camp with a 40+ foot rig. And adds one real big place to hit my head every time I left the camper or truck
Very nice idea. Nice concept and thoughtfulness of what people need. Really like the under side lights, the storage tray and storage shelf. This may be an issue for half ton trucks as they often need weight distribution due to the limited capacity. Just making a pull behind a gooseneck does not solve the limitations of the truck. Especially on short bed versions where the ball is behind the rear axel. But again, overall, a great concept!
What do you mean, stress cracks from using this conversion? I don't think the conversion would put any more weight on the original hitch from what it already was.. Yes the moment arm of the whole thing is longer. A longer arm does give more leverage, but that isn't going to effect/increase the amount of weight on the original part of the hitch on the camper as far as the camper is concerned, the ball is still in the same place, think about it. But I agree campers are built notoriously crappy. I've got cracks on my old fifth wheel camper, the actual hitch framework, I need to address right now.
@@turdferguson12 Yes but if the front of the camper is not loaded any heavier then the hitch should not be any different and they did reinforce that with the bars under V anyway if that has any effect on the frame where the A frame is welded to the box frame it was not a good design in the first place that is just my thoughts
Neither does a weight distribution attachment but many manufacturers will void the warranty for using them because they can stress the trailer frame and I've seen the failures. This looks to be a way better option.@@PTRRanger951
Ingenious, I want to build a gooseneck like this to attach to my fifth wheel pin box and the chassis side rails to minimize the stress on the front frame and aluminum RV structure, that way the weight and twisting stresses will be carried by the more rigid gooseneck hitch and main frame rails on the RV and not the front structure of the RV
If your goose neck ball was in line vertical with existing ball hitch. Then your trailer frame loading would be the same as the orginal trailer manufacturer.
i was sitting here thinking about this, moving the hitch out 4 to 5 feet would be like holding weight against your chest than extending your arm out straight that puts more stress on your shoulder than your legs im thinking it is putting a lot more stress on the hitch i might be over thinking this
Great idea. A lot of people like the lower profile, ease of access and other benefits of a travel trailer but would like tge towing ease and safety of a 5th wheel.
Better vs a weight distribution hitch as it directly puts the weight forward on the truck. Would like to see it in action on windy day with the camper it is attached to.
I do not see that as an advantage personally. The trailer frame is not designed for it, nor would weight distribution be the same. Also a true 5th wheel has far more room inside, and when you have a 30ft 5th wheel, it tows about 5ft shorter than a 30ft pull trailer. My 34ft 5th wheel tows and backs up like a 25ft pull trailer. So you use up the truck bed to pull a trailer designed to free up the truck bed when you tow.
The advantage would be a trailer that actually pulls nice without a bunch of drama and fish tailing. Also, no in-cab reverberation from tongue weight hanging off the back of the truck.
Because I can't find a fifth wheel toy hauler smaller than 40+ feet. I don't want or can afford one of those monsters. The small toy haulers are all bumper pull.
@@oneninerniner3427genesis supreme makes a ton of 32' overall (and smaller) fivers. My 27.5' box is 33' overall. Fifth wheels are a lot more efficient use of space.
You should find a way to hinge it up at the top with some pins so top can fold down so it's not sticking out so far when your unhooked. My bumper pull camper measures 41ft long and its tough to find camping sites for it to fit, and with your hitch it'd be even longer, I think it'd be cool to fold down somehow after you unhook. Just a thought but man that is exactly what my camper needs bc it tows like crap! Love your hitch tho I'm gonna have to try one for sure!
This will also reduce your trailers load capacity as half the weight of the unit is now on your trailer and the other is on your truck. Not to mention the amount of torque that its going to put on the frame and tongue of the TT that it wasn't designed for.
Great concept. But there are MANY documented cases of BP frames snapping due to the loads imparted by a simple load-leveling hitch. This is basically the same thing on steroids as far as where/how it attaches to the trailer frame. Im curious to see the first-hand data after a year or 2 of use
Actually its not the same at all. A leveling hitch doesn’t allow the trailer hitch to pivot vertically when hitting dips etc. That is where all the stress comes from. A 5th wheel hitch keeps the truck and trailer completely independent except for the tongue weight.
@akshonclip8149 actually it's exactly the same. The gooseneck adapter transfers the tongue weight up over the axles, but there is an extreme amount of torque on the frame tubes where the adapter attaches (just like with a load leveling hitch). IF the ONLY point of contact between the trailer and adapter was at the ball, this wouldn't be the case. The adapter uses the trailer frame tube for leverage, just like a load leveling hitch.
@@ryanj2071 But you are not locking the trailer frame and truck frame together. That is the problem with load levelers. At some point the trailer frame is forced to take the rear weight of the truck. That doesn’t happen with a 5th wheel. There isn’t any more torque applied to that setup then there would be with it just sitting on a hitch ball without load levelers.
This system looks like it spreads the attachment forces out very well and it also still allows for full articulation which would eliminate the stresses of a WD attachment.
Other than the better towing and sway prevention, I would like this setup, so that there wouldn't be the big 5th wheel bedroom over the hitch. The extra height of the 5th wheel designs, are mileage killers, and the layouts aren't that good for tall people. The gooseneck would also give more stability for smaller trucks, because of the weight placement.
$5,995 plus tax and shipping is customers responsibility. Also leaves out a very important bit on how much it weighs. My thoughts are that this would be perfect for half ton trucks as half ton towable 5th wheel campers are extremely scarce but depending on how heavy the adapter hitch is it might not be worth it if it soaks up to much of the trucks payload rating. With shipping and taxes you’re probably going to be pushing $7k for this not including if you need to set the truck up. On a 3/4 or 1 ton it’d be better to just get a 5th wheel.
My 33' toy hauler bumper tow, 3_7k axles, and am everybit of them 21K lb trailer without the toys. 12" I-Beam Rails. If one wants gooseneck Why Wouldnt i want to attach the gooseck section Directly to the 12" I Beams, could Still do without Welding with proper double shear plates thus Removing the Super Flexy bumper tow design.
Look good but I have seen those Lippert tongues bend and or break off the frame because of the very thin-walled tubing Lippert uses. I would not use your adaptor on ANY "lite weight" trailer. Only use on good strong frames.
Could this be used on a dump trailer or equipment trailer? I would feel safer with a 14,000 pound capacity trailer using a gooseneck hitch rather than bumper pull any day.
And join the club of other rv drivers pulling "doubles" that shouldn't be pulling a trailer of any size. I see alot of them on highway with inadequate tow rig, too much tongue weight, not enough tongue weight, chains dragging on asphalt, hooked to bent, rusted hitches ect ect. Trailer whips, panic smash brakes and then twisted up in median.
@@LJT7907except instead of distributing the weight across the entire frame of the tow vehicle it puts the weight in the bed of the truck over the rear axle. I’m not a mechanical engineer but would love to hear their opinion. I don’t believe I would be able to swap this out on my half ton truck instead of my WD hitch.
the trailer's frame is getting the same load and is even a bit reinforced. the truck having the hookup over the axle is much better because now the weight presses down on both of the trucks axles, where a bumper hitch levers weight off the steering axle. the reason this kind of hookup isn't standard is cost (it's alot more metal) but this will be more stable in every possible way.
As someone that moves camper trailers professionally, why on earth would this even exist? You're trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist... It's a hack method instead of using the proper truck for your needs.
Honestly this is really cool but the question is do the pros outweigh the cons? I mean you’re adding a lot of weight and considerably more stress to the frame of your trailer. Is the improvement in stability and turning radius really that much of an advantage?
Fifth wheels are more comfortable to pull. I don't see no increase in the TT tongue weight distribution. Setting on the ball, and the rear brackets are exactly the place that weight distribution bars attach to the frame. The only drawback I see, is the fifth wheel attachment sticking out in front of the TT. Kind of wasted space?
It looks really nice. I have a 254 pickup truck. Super duty 30 foot camper was slide out. How much difference would it make it way to truck with Pole and handle? How much does it cost working? You buy one? Thank you very much hope you have a nice day
all other things being equal a gooseneck trailer will always be more stable then bumper pull to tow because you aren't taking weight off your steering axle. this also has the advantage of being able to make tighter turns before jackknifing.
All that’s true… being a 250 n 30 footer… difference will probably be pretty substantial… especially if you have short wheelbase. $6k … it’s on you to get from Green Bay to your place. Crunch your own numbers.
Your design effectively lengthens the moment-arm of the hitch by roughly six feet. The clamp-on structure support is not adequately placed to compensate for the significant additional torque force being applied to the frame of the trailer and the point where the A-frame is welded to the frame rails. Modern camper trailer frames are barely able to carry the forces as designed. This looks sketchy to me. Have any of the RV manufacturers given their endorsement for this modification?
Eh, maybe. When installed right, I doubt it, but there's always that slim chance of failure, However, this kit puts some tongue weight from the trailer into the front end so your steering doesn't get squirrelly, meaning, you gain the traction back into your steer tires.
I was going to have one custom built like my buddies this would solve my problem. Bumper pull specially toy haulers like mine can be deathtraps loaded up it's more staple with a gooseneck or fifth wheel hitch
So by the time you buy the camper by the adapter, wouldn't you be further ahead? Just buying a fifth wheel toy hauler? Fifth wheels are so much easier to hook up and unhook than a gooseneck, especially if you have a crew cab long bed. Fifth wheels are much better. Not only that, the gooseneck hauling an uneven terrain, especially where I go in the mountains. If I had a gooseneck the side of the camper would touch the truck. So the fifth wheel limits your side to side movement
@@bryanb8366 Ok, so it doesn't work for you. Great. Not everyone wants a fifth wheel. They're heavier, taller, and more expensive. And I would prefer to hook up a gooseneck over a fifth wheel, but that's personal preference. And if things get sideways, the gooseneck is going to cause a lot less damage than the fifth wheel.
@bryanb8366 technically yes your right but I jumped the gun before i knew how it towed loaded with my sxs and if it trade in I'll be upside down and honestly love my layout of my toy hauler but making it a gooseneck would be the best camper for me after.
Cool, the only problem i see on this on this set up is payload capacity. If you're towing it with half a ton, that could be an issue, especially if your trailer weight is almost on the maximum capacity of your truck.
@@PudinTane-gc4dn because not everything needs a large tow vehicle. Nothing wrong with half ton towing. Why do people tow 35k with a one ton pickup when a semi would have heavier axels and larger brakes? It’s the same scale as towing something with a half ton truck.
Learn to back a bumper pull. I have been doing it for years and it is not a problem. At the house on a very busy street I have no more than 1 FOOT of clearance on either side. Back the camper in with no problem every time we go camping. LEARN TO BACK.
That’s the coolest trailer option I’ve ever seen. I’ve been pulling gooseneck horse trailers all my life and never really been fond of bumper hitch camper trailers but this cures the towing and backing issues with bumper pull trailers. Brilliant
Gooseneck, when possible, is THE very best way to pull hands down. We've been hauling horses, cattle and hay, nothing better. Once someone used a gooseneck, there's no going back.
Exactly. Why would you buy a bumper pull trailer and convert it? Buy the right thing.
Gooseneck travel trailers are few and far between. It's way easier to get 5th wheel
@@000622477 A 5'R does not have the motion range of a goose..
@@000622477Yeah mostly 5th, unless is a goosneck horse trailer that has living qtrs
Awesome, been thinking about that concept for years!
Looks expensive but definitely cool.
For those asking why. I can only answer for my personal reasons.
1. I have the perfect TT for me. Its paid for and i never wanted a 5th wheel.
2. I like that I would still have the low profile of the TT, but
would have the better handling characteristics of a goosneck.
3. I dont know why people keep saying this causing more torque on the trailer frame. Its inducing less than a weight distrubution hitch. The point where it connects is the exact same as being hooked to a receiver. The ball in the bed allows the tongue to move in infinite and continous positions. It cannot bind like a WDH.
Your needs will vary of course. But its a great design and would work exactly as intended.
Why dont i have one? Because the place i park my trailer wont accommodate the extra length.
Looks very well built gentlemen. Nice job!
That's nice I built one 12 years ago for a 32 foot tag along camper and sold the camper a few years later with it attached to it I mounted a generator on the noise over the back of the truck and a plat forum for storage
Ive wanted to do this for 20 years.
Very cool. Makes pulling your camper much safer to pull
Bad ass !
Finally someone figured it out !
I did it 3years ago 😂 there late to the party
Or just buy the proper trailer……
An answer to a question that nobody asked.
That’s the way to tow. It has to make a big difference for the better. Definitely on the long runs.
I like the idea of this after having a bumper pull RV for about a year now, but the 880lb of this adapter make it a significant beast to mount. $6,000 isn’t crazy money for what you’re getting when you see equalizer hitches going for upwards of $3,000 for some brands.
Perfect I can add at least 8' to my 32 foot bumper pull. Would place some major limits on where I could camp with a 40+ foot rig. And adds one real big place to hit my head every time I left the camper or truck
Look at it fool.2 feet from where it normally would sit on bumper
@@hankclingingsmith8707not to mention it's way easier to back up and park a gooseneck
Very nice idea. Nice concept and thoughtfulness of what people need. Really like the under side lights, the storage tray and storage shelf. This may be an issue for half ton trucks as they often need weight distribution due to the limited capacity. Just making a pull behind a gooseneck does not solve the limitations of the truck. Especially on short bed versions where the ball is behind the rear axel. But again, overall, a great concept!
Seems like it would put a lot of torque on the trailer tongue frame. That’s a lot of extra leverage.
They do! Every one I have seen has stress cracks at the point where the frame meets the body of the RV.
What do you mean, stress cracks from using this conversion? I don't think the conversion would put any more weight on the original hitch from what it already was.. Yes the moment arm of the whole thing is longer. A longer arm does give more leverage, but that isn't going to effect/increase the amount of weight on the original part of the hitch on the camper as far as the camper is concerned, the ball is still in the same place, think about it. But I agree campers are built notoriously crappy. I've got cracks on my old fifth wheel camper, the actual hitch framework, I need to address right now.
@@oneninerniner3427 it’s the leverage that would put the extra stress on the frame, not the weight. Same concept as using a cheater bar on a wrench.
i thought this seemed a little dangerous. 😂
@@turdferguson12 Yes but if the front of the camper is not loaded any heavier then the hitch should not be any different and they did reinforce that with the bars under V anyway if that has any effect on the frame where the A frame is welded to the box frame it was not a good design in the first place that is just my thoughts
Actually that’s a pretty sweet setup. I actually converted a 22ft car hauler bumper pull to a gooseneck, night and day difference in how it tows.
I suspect this will void warranties on the frame from the TT manufacturer.
How would it? It’s not altering or changing the frame at all.
Who cares. RV manufacturers warranty is worthless anyway.
@@jjsantos3292exactly, see Lehto’s Law.
Neither does a weight distribution attachment but many manufacturers will void the warranty for using them because they can stress the trailer frame and I've seen the failures. This looks to be a way better option.@@PTRRanger951
Rv warranty’s are a joke they don’t stand behind anything they produce
Perhaps an answer to a question that was never asked, but a pretty cool concept/idea.
Safety
Ingenious, I want to build a gooseneck like this to attach to my fifth wheel pin box and the chassis side rails to minimize the stress on the front frame and aluminum RV structure, that way the weight and twisting stresses will be carried by the more rigid gooseneck hitch and main frame rails on the RV and not the front structure of the RV
Yup! Exactly what did it do other than take up space on the tow vehicle!
Yup, that ain't goin anywhere. Seriously though that is pretty cool.❤
If your goose neck ball was in line vertical with existing ball hitch. Then your trailer frame loading would be the same as the orginal trailer manufacturer.
i was sitting here thinking about this, moving the hitch out 4 to 5 feet would be like holding weight against your chest than extending your arm out straight that puts more stress on your shoulder than your legs im thinking it is putting a lot more stress on the hitch i might be over thinking this
i ment to say more stress on the tongue not the hitch
Great idea. A lot of people like the lower profile, ease of access and other benefits of a travel trailer but would like tge towing ease and safety of a 5th wheel.
that platform looks ideal for a vertical wind turbine
I have never wanted something for my trailer more than I do right now. 😂😂😂
Why not just get a 5th wheel? More roomy and storage...
Trailer frames will not hold up to the strain that this will put on them.
Don't do this you will be sorry.
Better vs a weight distribution hitch as it directly puts the weight forward on the truck. Would like to see it in action on windy day with the camper it is attached to.
I do not see that as an advantage personally. The trailer frame is not designed for it, nor would weight distribution be the same. Also a true 5th wheel has far more room inside, and when you have a 30ft 5th wheel, it tows about 5ft shorter than a 30ft pull trailer. My 34ft 5th wheel tows and backs up like a 25ft pull trailer. So you use up the truck bed to pull a trailer designed to free up the truck bed when you tow.
The advantage would be a trailer that actually pulls nice without a bunch of drama and fish tailing. Also, no in-cab reverberation from tongue weight hanging off the back of the truck.
Backing up would be fantastic compared to the original trailer
Awww... look. The trumptard believes anybody cares what they think.
Some of us live north of the 38th parallel and can pull that atv or boat behind that goose necked trail.
I don't get it.
You would be better off trading in for a fifth wheel travel trailer.
Because I can't find a fifth wheel toy hauler smaller than 40+ feet. I don't want or can afford one of those monsters. The small toy haulers are all bumper pull.
@@oneninerniner3427genesis supreme makes a ton of 32' overall (and smaller) fivers. My 27.5' box is 33' overall. Fifth wheels are a lot more efficient use of space.
It bolts onto the trailer's *tongue* , not "hitch". The part at the front of the tongue which attached to the ball is called a "coupler".
You should find a way to hinge it up at the top with some pins so top can fold down so it's not sticking out so far when your unhooked. My bumper pull camper measures 41ft long and its tough to find camping sites for it to fit, and with your hitch it'd be even longer, I think it'd be cool to fold down somehow after you unhook. Just a thought but man that is exactly what my camper needs bc it tows like crap! Love your hitch tho I'm gonna have to try one for sure!
Hell yeah what's one run sir
This will also reduce your trailers load capacity as half the weight of the unit is now on your trailer and the other is on your truck. Not to mention the amount of torque that its going to put on the frame and tongue of the TT that it wasn't designed for.
Sweet, my camper just got 12ft longer, but it's the same size inside. Cool hitch tho
A very nice construction.
WHAT A VERY GOOD IDEA,GREAT GOING GUYS
Great concept.
But there are MANY documented cases of BP frames snapping due to the loads imparted by a simple load-leveling hitch. This is basically the same thing on steroids as far as where/how it attaches to the trailer frame. Im curious to see the first-hand data after a year or 2 of use
Actually its not the same at all. A leveling hitch doesn’t allow the trailer hitch to pivot vertically when hitting dips etc. That is where all the stress comes from.
A 5th wheel hitch keeps the truck and trailer completely independent except for the tongue weight.
@akshonclip8149 actually it's exactly the same. The gooseneck adapter transfers the tongue weight up over the axles, but there is an extreme amount of torque on the frame tubes where the adapter attaches (just like with a load leveling hitch).
IF the ONLY point of contact between the trailer and adapter was at the ball, this wouldn't be the case. The adapter uses the trailer frame tube for leverage, just like a load leveling hitch.
@@ryanj2071 But you are not locking the trailer frame and truck frame together. That is the problem with load levelers. At some point the trailer frame is forced to take the rear weight of the truck.
That doesn’t happen with a 5th wheel.
There isn’t any more torque applied to that setup then there would be with it just sitting on a hitch ball without load levelers.
@@akshonclip I guess I need to look at the adapter a little closer.
This system looks like it spreads the attachment forces out very well and it also still allows for full articulation which would eliminate the stresses of a WD attachment.
Good job!! I prefer GN over conventional bumper tow.
Super cool. When will the details be revealed?
Cost, benefits, max cargo capacity, that kind of stuff…… Hope to see that video.
Is anybody actually spending $6500 on a hitch adapter rather than just buying the correct trailer?
Excellent idea, far safer then hitch mount
Other than the better towing and sway prevention, I would like this setup, so that there wouldn't be the big 5th wheel bedroom over the hitch. The extra height of the 5th wheel designs, are mileage killers, and the layouts aren't that good for tall people.
The gooseneck would also give more stability for smaller trucks, because of the weight placement.
$5,995 plus tax and shipping is customers responsibility.
Also leaves out a very important bit on how much it weighs.
My thoughts are that this would be perfect for half ton trucks as half ton towable 5th wheel campers are extremely scarce but depending on how heavy the adapter hitch is it might not be worth it if it soaks up to much of the trucks payload rating.
With shipping and taxes you’re probably going to be pushing $7k for this not including if you need to set the truck up.
On a 3/4 or 1 ton it’d be better to just get a 5th wheel.
Great idea
what keeps it from hitting each other in a sharp turn ?
it be like pulling a double hay wagon
A very nice setup.
My 33' toy hauler bumper tow, 3_7k axles, and am everybit of them 21K lb trailer without the toys. 12" I-Beam Rails. If one wants gooseneck Why Wouldnt i want to attach the gooseck section Directly to the 12" I Beams, could Still do without Welding with proper double shear plates thus Removing the Super Flexy bumper tow design.
Buddy! That’s nice👌🏽
Surely it's DOT approved... right??
I was thinking of something like this for my car trailer.
I've been curious if anyone made something like this for a long time. I wonder if you're still making them?
keep me posted on the new batch so I can possibly head that way so we can do an install video 🤠
Just buy a fifth wheel and have more space with the same length!
Safer then ball hitch towing by far
I seen one for the 1st time couple weeks ago someone had 1 for sale on Facebook market place..cool peice
🎶 IN DA GHETTOOOOOO.....
Look good but I have seen those Lippert tongues bend and or break off the frame because of the very thin-walled tubing Lippert uses. I would not use your adaptor on ANY "lite weight" trailer. Only use on good strong frames.
Could this be used on a dump trailer or equipment trailer? I would feel safer with a 14,000 pound capacity trailer using a gooseneck hitch rather than bumper pull any day.
I have an equipment trailer too . Same question , it has a 6" C channel frame .
Shorten the safety chains to the correct length on the trailer itself .
Looks just like BP conversations one
Looks heavy
With a fifth wheel you can legally tow an additional trailer or vehicle behind it.
Cool incredible 0:30
And join the club of other rv drivers pulling "doubles" that shouldn't be pulling a trailer of any size. I see alot of them on highway with inadequate tow rig, too much tongue weight, not enough tongue weight, chains dragging on asphalt, hooked to bent, rusted hitches ect ect. Trailer whips, panic smash brakes and then twisted up in median.
But the frame of the bumper pull you just made a gooseneck isn’t rated for double towing
@@r.m.3020God bless Charles Darwin 🙏😂
Expands your length in camp by 4-5 feet? Takes away some spots you would otherwise be able to use AND you lose the ability to cover the truck bed.
Changing the stress points could be detrimental to the factory build.
What stress point has changed? It's still mounted via the ball hitch.
It looks exactly same way as a weight distribution hitch would mount to the trailer.
@@LJT7907except instead of distributing the weight across the entire frame of the tow vehicle it puts the weight in the bed of the truck over the rear axle. I’m not a mechanical engineer but would love to hear their opinion. I don’t believe I would be able to swap this out on my half ton truck instead of my WD hitch.
the trailer's frame is getting the same load and is even a bit reinforced.
the truck having the hookup over the axle is much better because now the weight presses down on both of the trucks axles, where a bumper hitch levers weight off the steering axle.
the reason this kind of hookup isn't standard is cost (it's alot more metal) but this will be more stable in every possible way.
Rated for what weight trailer and fir how much “tongue” weight?
That’s a great idea!
As someone that moves camper trailers professionally, why on earth would this even exist? You're trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist... It's a hack method instead of using the proper truck for your needs.
I was thinking a good place for the 4wheeler if you don't want to buy a different unit lol
Why???
you beat me to it
Nice
Price: $5,995.00 plus sales tax.
Shipping is customers responsibility.
pretty neat great ideal
I don’t get it. what’s the advantage of the extra length of basically useless space? Why not just get a fifth wheel trailer.
cool concept the welds on that pipe are absolutely atrocious though.
That’s AWESOME!! 👍
wow that's nice. properly expensive I'm guessing
Will this kit work for livestock trailers?
Will this work for a 2024 16 ft dump trailer
making one of these now!
Very nice!
A GIANT lever that will bend that toungue is no time. CAVEAT EMPTOR
That is awesome. Genius
Nice ,very nice...
The only thing I don't like if you took the chains and twisted them. You don't twist your chains cause if you do lose them they will break
TOO COOL
It’s nice but additional weight to the RV, and what is the purpose of this?
Honestly this is really cool but the question is do the pros outweigh the cons? I mean you’re adding a lot of weight and considerably more stress to the frame of your trailer. Is the improvement in stability and turning radius really that much of an advantage?
Fifth wheels are more comfortable to pull. I don't see no increase in the TT tongue weight distribution. Setting on the ball, and the rear brackets are exactly the place that weight distribution bars attach to the frame. The only drawback I see, is the fifth wheel attachment sticking out in front of the TT. Kind of wasted space?
Can you double tow with this setup in Michigan?
It looks really nice. I have a 254 pickup truck. Super duty 30 foot camper was slide out. How much difference would it make it way to truck with Pole and handle? How much does it cost working? You buy one? Thank you very much hope you have a nice day
all other things being equal a gooseneck trailer will always be more stable then bumper pull to tow because you aren't taking weight off your steering axle.
this also has the advantage of being able to make tighter turns before jackknifing.
All that’s true… being a 250 n 30 footer… difference will probably be pretty substantial… especially if you have short wheelbase. $6k … it’s on you to get from Green Bay to your place. Crunch your own numbers.
Your design effectively lengthens the moment-arm of the hitch by roughly six feet. The clamp-on structure support is not adequately placed to compensate for the significant additional torque force being applied to the frame of the trailer and the point where the A-frame is welded to the frame rails. Modern camper trailer frames are barely able to carry the forces as designed. This looks sketchy to me. Have any of the RV manufacturers given their endorsement for this modification?
You're pretty good with the word salad.
@@Katchi_ Thank you. "That dawg won't hunt" or "That shit ain't right" just doesn't seem to capture the situation adequately.
@@thomabb😂 for people who "want it" more than they "want it right"
That's bad ass
Did you guys FEA this? Cool concept. Would this be cheaper than buying a regular GN camper?
Solution looking for a problem
Eh, maybe. When installed right, I doubt it, but there's always that slim chance of failure, However, this kit puts some tongue weight from the trailer into the front end so your steering doesn't get squirrelly, meaning, you gain the traction back into your steer tires.
Just buy a fifth wheel to start..🤔
Why? Cool concept, but why?
Because a gooseneck trailer is inherently more stable than a bumper pull.
I was going to have one custom built like my buddies this would solve my problem. Bumper pull specially toy haulers like mine can be deathtraps loaded up it's more staple with a gooseneck or fifth wheel hitch
So by the time you buy the camper by the adapter, wouldn't you be further ahead? Just buying a fifth wheel toy hauler? Fifth wheels are so much easier to hook up and unhook than a gooseneck, especially if you have a crew cab long bed. Fifth wheels are much better. Not only that, the gooseneck hauling an uneven terrain, especially where I go in the mountains. If I had a gooseneck the side of the camper would touch the truck. So the fifth wheel limits your side to side movement
@@bryanb8366 Ok, so it doesn't work for you. Great. Not everyone wants a fifth wheel. They're heavier, taller, and more expensive.
And I would prefer to hook up a gooseneck over a fifth wheel, but that's personal preference. And if things get sideways, the gooseneck is going to cause a lot less damage than the fifth wheel.
@bryanb8366 technically yes your right but I jumped the gun before i knew how it towed loaded with my sxs and if it trade in I'll be upside down and honestly love my layout of my toy hauler but making it a gooseneck would be the best camper for me after.
Cool, the only problem i see on this on this set up is payload capacity. If you're towing it with half a ton, that could be an issue, especially if your trailer weight is almost on the maximum capacity of your truck.
99% of half tons don’t have a gooseneck set up, or a way to install one. So it wouldn’t be used on a half ton truck anyway.
I never understood why people tow with half tons in the first place with single bearing axles and super small brakes.
@@PudinTane-gc4dn because not everything needs a large tow vehicle. Nothing wrong with half ton towing.
Why do people tow 35k with a one ton pickup when a semi would have heavier axels and larger brakes? It’s the same scale as towing something with a half ton truck.
Yeah they cost way more than they should that’s for sure. It’s a good idea but just to expensive.
So you can turn and back up 10 times easier
Learn to back a bumper pull. I have been doing it for years and it is not a problem. At the house on a very busy street I have no more than 1 FOOT of clearance on either side. Back the camper in with no problem every time we go camping. LEARN TO BACK.
@davidroman1654 he didn't say he didn't know how. He correctly said it would be easier. Appears he knows more than you. Learn to read.
why ?