CRAZY SWAY While Towing My RV with a Semi Truck!
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I suggest backing the Razor into the trailer so the engine is closer to the 5th wheel axels.
Beat me to it ,was about to say the same. Won't help a lot but if it's swaying every little bit will help some.
Same, when I seen that big damn engine it has.
There's too much weight behind the axels. Try to shift the weight, maybe load the side by side backwards.
That's what I was thinking..... load the SxS in backwards...
Same suggestion from me.
Load up the side by side reverse so the motor seat closer to the axle might reduce some of the sway.
I was just going to say that the motor in back you want that to the axle
I said same thing
Seems like Bruce is having a lot of buyer’s remorse with his camper and motorhome purchases lately.
A lot of times they’re way overpriced and have issues straight off the lot. Been there and dealt with it, and it can make you really second guess your decision.
If he doesn’t find something to complain about he doesn’t have a video. He has to know better than to load the trailer the way he has. If it sways behind a rig then it is a loading issue. 🤷♂️
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Who would of thunk grand designs makes a bad toy hauler
I'd have buyers remorse with a 3/4 ton short box truck!!
As others have noted, sway is usually due to improper weight balance. You can verify this by pulling it with and without the side-by-side. If the problem goes away unloaded, you have your answer. To remedy, you'll need to get more weight forward of the axles. The semi having the same issue also confirms weight distribution as being the most probable cause.
The trailer's stated hauling capacity by the MFG is usually figured with a basic version of the trailer, completely empty. Options added by the dealer/you and cargo will reduce it. Those little things can add up very quickly. Notice the sticker says the weight of cargo should never exceed 3690lbs. It doesn't say specifically that's the amount it can actually handle. You can find the real capacity with some basic math and measurements. Weight it loaded (any luggage, food, water, clothes, etc.) and subtract that number from that 16800lb GVWR. There's your true excess cargo capacity. Based on the info in the video, your realistic capacity is probably only roughly 1500lbs. That's assuming you get more of weight over the tongue to keep your rear axles from being over-loaded as well.
You may well find you need a bigger trailer with more capacity, or you need to figure out a way to lighten the load on your current one. You definitely need to resolve the matter, as the legal (civil and criminal) liability from pulling an over-weight trailer is significant. If you get in an accident, any 2-bit lawyer will have a very easy case against you. That's not a risk that's worth taking, IMO.
It’s almost to the point of needing another axle on the 5th wheel, back it into the trailer and put the heavy end of the SXS as close to the axle as possible
That's what I was going to recommend.
A toy hauler of this size 10 to 15 years ago would for sure have 3 axles. I notice a lot of newer trailers trying to get buy with heavier axles and using only 2
or he could read his cargo limits
Bruce, look into the air ride suspension conversion kits for fifth wheels. Also back your side by side into the garage for better weight distribution.
I tow a 45ft 5th wheel with a 6” lift on 37 26x14 ram 2500. Your truck should tow that fine. I would suggest backing in the rzr and honestly filling the water tanks adds weight to the front
You should know the Can-Am backwards with the engine towards the front of the camper
Try backing it in with the motor closer to the axels
Back that razor in so the motor is closer to the axles on the trailer
lets see how many RV/Campers Bruce goes through before he's happy.
I was going to say the same thing. It the second motorhome no more?
They all have problems I work on them. All I can say is enjoy/use the warranty!
1st of all. You are pulling a 5th wheel that has a pin weight of almost 3600 lbs. With a 250!!! With everything your hauling in your truck. I wouldn't dought if you are over your payload capacity. By about 2000 lbs. This proves how devious RV sales people are. Please do your homework.
@@daytime8153 Hoss, I ain't Bruce, I don't know why you're replying to me with this......
Solution to stuff hitting the mother attic on the camper would be getting some full fenders for the truck and I think you should probably find some that look pretty damn
Try loading your razor backwards
Thank you for the video.I’m glad that you could go with your family in a camping trip.Wish you all the best!
I'm a big fan Bruce i love our vids
reversing the polaris into the fifth wheel would be a better idea i think considering the engine is most of the weight of that thing in one spot it should help
Love the 'camping vlogging' videos! Keep 'em going!!!!
That's exactly what I want a tractor for. I pull a 41, 2 bedroom, 2 bath 5th wheel with a 1 ton, 06 power stroke. I really need that cab over, fingers crossed, I win it!
That’s badass that adding an axle doesn’t void the warranty
Where is your Peterbuilt motor home????
Remodeling the interior
We had the same issue what we did was took it back and got a tri axel and problem was solved
nice trip out you know it wasnt that bad lol,
good luck out there lookin for the wreck, stay blessed wilson family
Really enjoying the camping vlogging stuff! Like to see another persons prospective of camping!
I love all the content you put out Bruce. Keep up the good work and I’m looking forward to winning Blue Collar
I had the same problem and backed in my sxs, much improvement in handling and tongue weight.
Back the side by side in to get the heavy side toward the axles.
I carry my vw bug in my toy hauler. Try backing it in. Makes a huge difference with my setup. Good luck
Had a similar problem with my Weekend Warrior three axel, backing my sxs made a huge difference.
I PASSED YOU GUYS! I was coming from Knoxville tn going to atl and I saw you guys around athens tennessee on i75 south! Tried to get yall to honk but you never saw me.
Try backing the sxs in. The engine will be closer to the trailer axles, I haul mine that way
Great video. Have a fun and safe trip. !!
Add a axle and try to shift as much weight as you can forward.
The heavier weight in a RV as you have should always go as far forward as you can. The heavier weight in the back will always cause a trailer (RV) to sway.
Their are several videos showing how the heavier weight in back will cause a vehicle to sway with weight distribute in the back.
I pulled a RV several years with my 2004 4X4 Silverado. I pulled a Jayco Pinnacle, it was a 43'.
Nice rigs for sure! Backing the razor in will definitely help weight distribution… Also, make sure when you load the front part of your RV make sure you put most of your carry on up front in the overhead bed area if you can to add more weight to your hitch.
Try putting UTV in reverse/backwards that way the engine weight is closer to the last trailer axle! Might help
Sweet setup man! Thanks for sharing, making me jealous 😂
Glad you like the rv!
Just a thought we used to have sway with car transporters in Uk. ( 13 car carriers 65 ft long). When new tyres were fitted ( super singles special tyre for transporter trailers), until shoulder on tyres wore in we would experience a sway like that . We would also run overweight on axles due to different vehicle sizes that had to be loaded. We would squeeze everything on .
Back the rzr in Bruce. You’ll have much more weight closer to the axles. The motor is in the rear. Should help
I would definitely recommend distributing the weight in the camper better and look into a stabilizer kit.
Stabilizer kits on his pickup truck will help alot. Even with high windy and increased speed on highway but no sway. I recommend sticking with same speed as before and after. For safety reason anyway
Speedwell!! That’s by norris lake. Our summer home! Have a good trip!
Would definitely back it in, I had the same problem and that solved it.
Try backing the razor in
The reason they won't void your warranty, but specifically state that they won't cover anything related to those modifications, is because that is literally the law. It has been since 1975 per the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. What's cool here is that, unlike most companies, they are obeying this law and being 100% transparent about it. Most companies disobey this law and/or lie.
I pull a 37ft raptor with my Ram 2500 Cummins. Have it on bags.
When I have it loaded with toys I air down on the bags to give a minor squat and this solved the dog tail wag problem completely.
As a rule of thumb, you want to carry more weight than you pull. You’ll always want just a touch more weight on the drives than your tandems, as best you can. I’m a nobody, I know… However, having the axles further back would help your situation. 😊
I hope you all have a great vacation
If you are still camping try backing the utv on the trailer for the return trip. Put the heavier weight more forward. It might slightly help. I think they are a cpl hundred pounds heavier in the rear.
Great example of doing your research before buying, and understanding how weight adds up quickly…also weight distribution.
Get a dually and load the SXS in backwards. I wouldnt mess with adding another axle, i woulda just got a 3 axle but i understand it not being easy to get in and out of your yard.
Really enjoy the camping video bring more to the channel man
Where is the water tank in the trailer? If they are forward of the axle fill em up! That will compensate for all the weight behind the axles!!!
That's exactly why we have a triple axle and put as much in front as possible and even put the quads in the kitchen to help with our sxs being in the back
Backing the razor in more weight closer to those axles. Couple people suggestion same thing!
Do your vlog off the fuel island. Transfer weight forward in the camper. If water tanks are forward of the axle fill them up
I towed a 42’ 2015 Heartland landmark 365 5th wheel with my semi truck and it swayed. The 365 is not a toy hauler and grosses out at 17,500. When I hauled it from the dealer empty it swayed. The air conditioner, all the cabinets, the tv’s, convection oven I honestly think it’s because these things have a lot of weight up high.
I wonder if the razor weighs more than you think it does, the only thing that causes trailer sway, is to have more weight behind the axles than in front.
After further watching maybe put the side by side in backwards so the motor is closer to the trailer axles it might make a little bit better I don't know if it would or not but it would be worth a shot
if ur able to put the SXS in the trailer garage backwards so the majority of the SXS drivetrain is closer to da axles so most of its weight is over the axles it should be enough to help with the sway to get u home safest
Had the same problem but since I got a shocker hitch and a triple axle toy hauler never had no more problems 3/4 ton pickup. Never had no problem pulling afterwards that I got my shocker hitch and triple axle toy hauler
my friend did the same thing on his wolfpack kinda instresting seams to work good i suggest also going to a 14 ply tire
Love it!
Hell ya the vlogs are chill
Great ideal getting the semi to pull the camper trailer!
Overkill
Camping and vlogging is nice, I like it
Yes I think you should show some camping content with your family 😊
The leveling system on the three-axle trailer goes down before going up because these cheap and crude hydraulic systems don't have bi-directional valves for each ram, so they can can only retract together, or extend them individually. That means they need to start with the RV low... and they do that by retracting (all of) the jacks, then extending them in whatever combination achieves level. If they miss and adjust, they can only drive the RV higher in the adjustments, so it always ends up higher than it would be if competently adjusted manually.
Empty freshwater tank until you get closer to where you are going. Plus, like everyone else stated load the Razar backwards.
I pulled a 22000 lb bumper pull 3 axle Monte Carlo from Michigan to Arizona with a gas3/4 ton 1999 truck never had any issues was a little heavy but it did fine
At this point Bruce should become a RV salesman so much videos about RVs he should just open a RV shop and sell RVs
But it's all what not to do.
Yeah, and what happened to the large car rv he bought?
@@fredproctor6973 sell it 😔
Got to love that i75 exit 310 loves
Usually those big toy haulers are 3-axle units for good reason, and towing one of those with commercial 5th wheel I would be careful stay off sharp driveway transitions that make the truck and trailer want to tweak against each other. Those RV's frames aren't really meant to handle the stress of a hitch that doesn't side tilt.
You can load the radar backwards as far as you can and put anything heavy up over the nose to add weight to the 5th wheel.
I back my razor in and it helps a lot with the swaying
I am a fan of the camping vlog I say keep it Bruce.
Heck yea love the camping videos
i hope u have a fantastic holiday bruce
Try backing the sxs in so the motor is closer to the axles. Thats the heaviest part of it
I love my torsion bar triple x l thirty foot tag trailer and make sure you get that in writing that they will still warrant it
You should get Freight Liner 4 door semi to hall all your family with and tow the camper with. You need a 3 axle trailer
Dinosaur tattoo boy found a snack in the crack of the seat love it
Have fun!
I pulled a Jayco Northpoint 377 RLBH with a 2017 F250 platinum. Towed great but numbers were a problem. I always thought adding a 3rd axle to that particular brand and model would be a good move from the factory. Sold it during the Rv covid craze.
One thing you can do is upgrade your tire rating on your trailer from what the factory put on them toy haulers trailer company doesn’t always count for that extra Weight between the vehicle and the personal stuff that you guys put in. And by upgrading tire rating that will also help with your tire on your trailer and that rolling that your taking about and will help with a premature were of the tires
Hi Bruce cool new trailer the first thing you should do to your fifth wheel rv trailer is you need to upgrade your pin box to self adjustable unit that will take the shock effect out of the steering second thing I would be doing is get those Dunkin’ donuts off that trailer you need better tires for that rv I have tow so many of these trailers and had the same problem putting a third axle on this unit it may not stop you from swaying issues I would also check to see if they offer a sway bar system for the wheel tracking other then that have fun stay crazy
Another Great Video 😊like was said earlier load backwards. Good Luck you put out some great content !!!
Those Zillas eat!! Ever heard of Indian mountian in Alabama it’s a fun place to ride as well.
Grand design is an amazing company we have bought 3 campers made by them now and they are built well and customer service is excellent
Once again I think it’s good to let y’all know I liked my own comment😅
😂😂😂 love it, I probably would have said the same thing 😅😅😅myself,that got my day started, lol
Fill the front water tank for tongue weight. Back the Razor in to move engine weight forward!
Back the sxs in as far forward as possible and stack as much stuff that is in the camper as far forward in the camper as possible. I'm not over weight with my camper but I do that as a precaution anyway.
You have the room so what I would do is ,get yourself custom built 4 foot high / 6 foot long aluminum triangle ramp. Storage underneath and safety strap S/S to frame of ramp. A ramp they use on the back of P/U trucks .
Come on up here I lived in Florida for 25 years I moved up here and I love it.
You could have had the fellas at Featherlight in Clear Lake Iowa just build you a six slide NASCAR trailer with a garage on the upper deck. Build to suit.
Perhaps you could try backing your side by side. And that might put the weight closer to the axles unless on the tail.
I'm watching this in my RV in Tifton Georgia right now
We have 397 Momentum been full time RVing 8 years , tri-axle lot better pulled mine 80mph tracks on rails. I actually pull utility trailer with KRX we use garage for other stuff . If going add axle replace all axles go disc brakes if have drum .
I suggest loading the sxs in backwards to get the motor weight closer to axels. Wont help a ton but might be just enough.
I had the same issue back your rzr in be good to go
Backing your sidexside in would help but I never had an issue when I pulled my 44' RAPTOR toy hauler with my single wheel 1 ton 4x4 Ram Grant it I had an extra axle but I know for a fact I was much heavier as well.
So being a driver and a I live in a camper we have 1 size bigger and 2 axle we added a tag to the ass end off a a dump truck works off air from the semi and has a dump switch that I can run inside