BUYING A $200 Cadillac Allante *The Ultimate 90s Luxury 2 Seater*
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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
- I paid $200 for this 1991 Cadillac Allante and I think we had $200 worth of fun with it on the first drive. The Cadillac Allante was jam packed with technology and way ahead of its time, there are no knobs and tons of screens. Now 30 years later every new car is basically all screens with a volume knob. This car truly was futuristic, well designed, and it came with a price tag to match. The 4.5L V8 engine and 4 speed transmission are still putting in work, but the rest of the car is hanging on by a thread. When you buy a $200 example you know what you're getting into, I planned on quickly fixing the exhaust leak and selling it, but realized I should sell it as is after spending a few minutes in the car.
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Oops, I called it a sedan in there 😂 I sold this to the next guy for $200, hopefully he enjoys it, this wasn't a project I wanted to get buried in.
Bummer, but I'm sure it needed a lot of work to get it back to what it was with all the early cutting edge electronics and the odball engine. I hope he does something cool with it too.
That car is not a project it’s a straight up money pit
It wasn't meant for you anyway. The hood struts were still good.
Fix that Cadillac Allante,
do it for Kelly Bundy. 👩🏼
It would have been interesting to see if you could have managed to put a modern brake booster in it and maybe salvage it into a more functional, practical vehicle.
Best offroader money can buy!
Hahaha, better attack angles than the F-250 (or at least better than my hitch)! 💯
Cadillac guaranteed original owners that their car would hold a value equal to the MB SL class for three years. The owners traded them in just before the deal ended keys for keys for brand new Cadillacs.
According to a very comprehensive article in Automobile magazine, Sept. 1986, the Allante was shipped *twice* across the Atlantic in 747s. GM-30 platforms were sent to Pininfarina who cut them down and welded them back together in a smaller two seat configuration, put the body on and interior in, and painted them. Then back to Hamtramck in the specially converted 747s (three of them) where GM installed the powertrain, suspension, brakes, etc. Truly nutty.
Really too bad you couldn't save this one, I always liked this car.
They did this kind of thing with Oldsmobile too. 90-95 Cutlass convertibles, coupe partially built, shipped locally to have top cut off and reinforcements put in. Back to factory for paint and interior, back to chop shop for convertible top etc, then back to factory. Of course this was much smaller scale than the 747s but same idea lol.
The CEO of the company I work for has one. It’s in a warm garage. It only has 10k on the clock. He bought it brand new in 1991. He drives occasionally. Pretty interesting car.
I test drove a new Allante when they came out. Salesman let me take it out by myself. I pulled over to put the top up or down, I forget which. Anyway, I broke it. Returned it to the dealer and said not a word! Bought a Q45 instead.
It would make a decent parts car. All the body panels are pretty straight, and it looks mostly complete despite everything being broken.
Yes. Definitely NOT crushable.
Engine swap it
I've owned a 93 Pearl Red / Natural Beige interior for 13 years and have had very little trouble with it meaning just normal maintenance. We came back from the Allante Nationals up in Grand Rapids in August with 95- 100 degrees heat 🔥 performed flawlessly. Change the oil 🛢 and brake fluid as scheduled in the 93 and they'll run on.
I am trying to save a 89 Allante, it is on my channel
23:34…. “The body is the only thing good”
The only thing GM didn’t make… 😂🤣
🤣🤣
Yes it's almost as bad as a Mercedes I BMW or Audi after the warranties over they're worth nothing because they're always broke and very expensive to fix
I love love love that car,had a black one in 95 and loved it. With today's engines, suspension upgrades that car would be phenomenal
People crap on it, but it's so pretty.
So pretty! 💯
I am trying to sane an 89 Allante now, it is on my channel.
I realize there is no good reason to do it, but it would be really cool to get 2-3 episodes of you bringing this thing back to life
The Neeeeew Allante!
...and the Bundy bounce!
My first thought exactly.
Married with children 🤣
Kelly Bundy!!!😍 😋
I thought I was the only one that remembered that!
THIS is the 1991 Cadillac Allante back in 91 is the Pinnacle of Cadillacs! Today I'm going to go through all of the quirks and features and get it on the road and see how it drives
Doug score?
This car had such an interesting and unique history, it really deserves to be restored! Of course, it will require a 2nd mortgage.
I think this one is close to being too far gone it would make a great parts car
Nah, take it to a demolition derby competition so that it can meet its final resting place.
Couple of things if anyone cares.
The 4.5 was technically a precursor to the Northstar, but way more reliable. Started out as a TBI engine with 155 HP, then switch to a more common Multiport injection( One injector per cylinder) which boosted HP to 180. But the Allante had a model specific intake which bumped up power to 200. They also had a 4.1 which is not anywhere as good as the 4.5. And they also had a 4.9L as well, which is also a pretty good engine.
All Cadillacs around this time period from about 85- 93ish had the mechanical dinger.
I believe the blend doors run off of vaccum. Which is why you didn't hear anything. (Thats at least how they work in my Deville from this time period)
A common fail point on GM cars from this time period. The fan controller/ resistor pack would fail, causing the fan to stay on all the time, not to turn on at all, or just odd behavior from the blower. Or the fan could also be dead.
I've got Northstar 4-hole fuel injectors in my Jeep currently. LuLz
@@revolutionday1 haha. Nice! How does it run with them?!?
The 4.9L was probably the best engine of GM before the release of the NorthStar.
In 2000, the Northstar headbolts we're lengthened an successfully made the headbolt failure issue less common. In 2004, they completely redesigned the headbolts, finally making the Northstar reliable. Besides the hedbolt issue, they are actually excellent engines. Why it took gm so long to do it, we will never know. They absolutely tarnished Cadillac reputation and cost them a huge amount of customers.
@@israelballew4155 Which is a real shame. I actually really like the Northstar. Still can't believe that GM took so long to solve the problems.
"That is a nightmare of a ...." This should be Cadillac's marketing hook. The 10 qts. of oil in the trunk, and a low engine oil warning on the dash, how handy is that.
I wonder if it has a leak? 😂
@@rustyjeep2469The value of the oil in the trunk is close to the sale price of the car...bargain.
I can't believe you snagged this hooptie before Tyler could get his hands on it! LOL
Make it rear wheel drive and put a Ls in it
Both Tyler and the Wizard would have drooled over this car, but for different reasons! 🤣
My FIL worked for 30 years at Fisher Body in the Lansing, MI area, retired in the late 90’s, then moved to TN and then to SC. We can get GM employee discount on new cars as long as he’s still alive. Not sure if that will get rid of the ridiculous dealer mark-ups of the past two years, but I may have to figure that out soon.
My Dad was a supervisor at the Grand Rapids Fisher Body plant. He started out as an apprentice tool and die man when returning from WWII. The plant was demolished but he was no longer around to witness that.
So nice to see someone who can appreciate a car's technology in reference to when the car was make.
Most people would just say it's old and no Bluetooth.
I have an 1988 Reatta with a CRT touch screen, when people hear what year it is they are amazed.
The best thing you can say about this car is that it was not Cadillacs dumbest idea. That is the Cymarron.
I owned an Allante.. I'd pestered the owner for 15 yrs to buy it.. the owner looked after it but, after 15yrs it was tired. I loved the car but after 4yrs of ownership it became the moneypit i couldn't keep up with.. Power steering went out, ABS went out and the final straw was the air conditioning exploding.. Great Memories ..
And now all the parts are disappearing, they aren't long for this world unless they been meticulously cared for 😢
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I owned 2 Allante's A white 91 and then a flax (very odd light yellow) 93. I daily drive both of them well over 100k miles with very few issues. The 91 is still one of my favorite cars from the many different brands and models I have owned. Kind of been thinking of trying to find a low miles excellent condition one and been looking around a little. They were cars you need to stay on top of and do regular maintenance, if you didn't this example is what would happen.
I am in the process of saving an 89 Allante that was parked for 9+ years, it is on my channel.
I remember being ~19 y/o and working at a Country Club in college. Someone at the CC had one. He gave me the keys and a $100 bill and said "get the oil changed, washed, gassed up, and keep the change"
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Honestly, I haven't laughed this hard at any of your videos in a while. Thanx for sharing this slice of GM history. The PULLS were the BEST !!!!!
I was laughing the whole time!
Shades of Big Al's Bike & Auto. I think he has two of these. He had a lot better luck with them though.
Al is great, I am trying to save an 89 Allante now that sat for 9+ years, it is on my channel. I think Al has 3 now.
Dude its been forever since I've seen a Cadillac Allante! lol My grandpa had a new one in the 90's when I was a kid and I loved riding in that thing. It was the same color and interior as yours. Lots of nostalgia and good memories seeing that thing!
Cadillac Allante, built on the world's longest assembly line. Started in Italy and ended in Detroit.
I remember seeing the 747's GM used to transport the car body's at the airport.
As someone who likes watching POV car videos, thank you for featuring all the sounds of button presses and the like. They sound quite nice.
That depreciation is insane! I bought a good running 1992 acura leagend (just needed a new ignition column) a couple years ago for $1300. They sold for about 40k brand new in the early 90s so thats almost $90k today. Been Daily driving it the past two years no issues, 5 speed manual with cruise control!, power adjustable driver seat perfectly working sun roof, definitely still feels pretty luxurious for being 30 years old and has a timeless body design :)
Nice, the manuals are hard to find. I owned a 91 automatic base model with 90k miles. The build quality and solidity of those cars is insane. Very quick too.
@@israelballew4155 They definitely ain't slow for a 30 year old car! I got a 5 speed sedan. Totally missed a cleannnn green coupe 6 speed fir $4000, type 2 motor like 2 hours south of me a year ago. That car will be worth 20 grand one day for sure.
I had a 95 type 2 legend as my first car, that thing wouldn’t die, too bad they rusted like crazy anywhere with snow and the drivers seats always seem to rip
@@kgisabeast my cloth seats are in amazing condition after 30 years not a single rip, also Portland doesn't really salt the roads at all so no rust yet! :)
Hahaha!! Loved the video! You have now experienced everything that I did! It was a fun car full of issues!!
Thanks for giving it a few minutes of RUclips Fame!!
I bought a flip for 700 tonight and thought i did good. Read your title and was like wtf. Watched the video, I feel much better now 😆
You did good, that's almost impossible to find now 🍻
Man, The content has just been insane!!!!!!
I'm trying! 💯
You know what sold me on this car in 1991, it was the Kelly Bundy Bounce!
yep, I am trying to sane an 89 Allante that was parked for 9+ years, it is on my channel
I like old cadillac's, had a 1962 cadillac hearse for a couple year's, until my mom kept hounding me to sell it. That car was a head turner with a big ole 390 engine pulling the insane weight of the car. Back in 2001, I would meet my mom and grandma for lunch once a week at bill knapp's (long gone), and my grandma had been a english lit teacher up until 1981 when she retired, and when I told her and my mom that I got the hearse finished, and it was in the lot, my grandma was walking fast to come look at it, but mom, not to happy. No one thought I would get her running, because I got it with 2 motors, a replacement transmission, and a lot of parts. I had to get a regular cady driveshaft lengthened, replaced all fuel and brake line's, clean the gas tank, and a lot of other stuff, but the body had no rust. My grandpa died before I could finish it, but he knew I would have it running. I finally sold it after my mom kept hounding me, and got my step dad to sell me his garage kept 66 impala ss convertible that needed restoring. The hearse was always my favorite, I just don't like northstar engine's, and some of the earlier cadillac engine's weren't that great. Good 200$ lol.
I'd imagine seeing a hearse parked outside of a Bill Knapps (also known as heavens waiting room) wasn't a rare thing but probably a bit scary for the cotton tops lol ironically they built a funeral home directly next to our Knapps . I do miss those damn biscuits though
My brother in law was a Cadillac salesman and he would bring one home from the dealership every now and then. I remember driving a white pearl convertible at 120 mph, it was a very nice car at the time.
I still like the styling of these things. It has held up well.
agreed. the best looking modern caddy. 100% European designers behind this. Detroit wouldn't know nice lines if it hit them in the face (in modern times).
@@thumbsdownclub7514 Idk I think Detroit has made a handful of pretty timeless "American" designs within the last 20 years. I think the 2005 Chrysler 300C was beautiful (the V6 versions less so), and the 2008 Dodge Challenger could certainly be added. The last generation Chevy Impala to me is very attractively sculpted also even as mundane as it ultimately is (although V6 versions are surprisingly peppy).
@@Stressless2023 you mean you like the fake Bentley?
@@Stressless2023 too bad they were German-owned then. Chrysler's last big sedan design was the LH sedans. It still did get washed-down, Benz didn't want it being too nice, that was reserved for their cars
@@olikat8 The 2005 300 was a Chrysler design. Their design studio was and still is in Detroit, MI regardless of company ownership.
My grandfather had one I loved the dang thing. When he passed away he had an 85 Eldorado Biarritz that I ended up with it also has a pull down motor in the trunk I have been trying to get all working right electrical pain in the ass. Although I wouldn’t get rid of it for anything unless I had absolutely had to
I remember Air Italia flying Boeing 747's into DTW once a week bringing these Allante bodies for GM. Always wanted one of the 'V' series Allantes.
I have one just like that drive it every day I love it
Always loves these cars. Ever since I saw it the first time in the opening scene of Tango & Cash. I still have my Hot Wheels World Class edition Allante.
They are so cheap now - I may have to pick one up.
I have a 1987 Alante my husband bought it new. I live in Ohio. My Caddy doesn't sound like yours. I have put some monies into it tokeep it going.. hope I can keep it a little longer. It grey e/ red interior. My husband passed away 9 yrs ago he would be shocked that I still have it. Love it!!!!!
A friend of mine had built one of those with 2 engines one in front one in rear. It was insanely fast especially when you made the rear go in reverse and the front forward. Cyclone 🌀
There were 22,000 Allante built - five still survive as daily drivers in Vacaville,CA. Weird Fact ..
Fun fact about the line that Cadillac chassis was built on. The Ferrari 250/275 ran on that line, then the Fiat 124 sport Spider for almost 20 years. It was the contract for this Allante that ended the production of the Spider (which Pinninfarina actually built and sold as the Pinninfarina Spider for about 3 years.) So that car’s grandpa/ma is a Ferrari 275.
I've worked on some of those old caddies back when they were young. I specifically remember cursing out the 4.1 liter V8. The cars were difficult to work on, everything had to be perfect, there was always some boobie trap or O-ring that was difficult to get right. My arms would get cut up and pieces were mostly aluminum, easy to break and very expensive. Sorry JR, that car is an absolute piece of crap after 60 -90 thousand miles, But..... But, I will admit, those cars are a pleasure to drive when they are good. They feel good, they are very luxurious, they have power to move. Too bad those cars are meant for the first buyer. Anyone who buys it used is guaranteed to have nightmares. I would never, ever, ever buy a used one.
Sounds like EVERY European ever car made 😒
i hope can buy cadillac someday for me have perfect car use, after lincoln this have best car in earth. maybe rolls royce have better but normal many peoples not newer can buy. cadillac have best ewer made car for normal peoples. and lincoln.
I too worked on these cars at Casa De Cadillac in Sherman Oaks Ca. We had the factory rep trying to help get the cars right and we never could. I had fun driving it though . The soft tops always leaked air and water no matter what.
So basically a BMW 😂
Always happy with a 100% Jake appearance.
JR...I love the passion you've got in diving in on the history of an old junker. I know you're not like Jay Smart...but would love to see some episodes and a giant You Pull type lot. They're like dinosaur yards...all kinds of interesting cars, but dissected.
Best channel ever. Body by fisher. My Dad's company cars when I was a kid were always gm products and I remember wonderering why there was a picture of Cinderellas carriage and who was fisher lol. Hadn't thought of that in years.
My only true memory of this car is the Married with Children episode with Kelly competing to be the spokesmodel for it, and butchering the name of it a bunch of times.
I loved this Italian designed car. I just didn’t have the money to buy it then even though I had a six figure income as a Judge back then. $200, how the car has fallen. It breaks my heart to see how this car was allowed to fall apart. I have a 1994 Corvette with some similar features but it is practically pristine. What car criminal allowed this to happen?
I’ve personally never seen one of these in good shape, it’s sad but there ended up being so many reliability issues with these cars that people just gave up on them.
I worked for Air Cargo Equipment 84-90 we had a plastic mockup of the Allante (looked like a mustang) top secret project! We made a Skid so the bodies could be 747 aircraft shipped from Europe. Kinda cool.
I await the day a Lincoln LS appears on this channel. Don't know what your area is like pricing wise, but I bought a 2004 V8 Sport with 120k Miles for $1000 here Im my area. Granted it's been constantly broken since February when I bought it. And still is. Got about 1600 miles out of it ATM. Works good as a Weekend car. But definitely can't use it as a Daily.
Lol y'all are crazy! But had a great time driving it! Merry Christmas!
Dude I remember these rare gems! Coming from a small town and rural areas they were so rare!!! I'm here was only like 1 or 2 snotty rich Drs that bought such rediculous things.....they looked so cool but we're obviously as you've shown absolutely rediculous to work on or maintain and we're NOT meant to daily drive and is set up like an old super car to be stored in a warm climate in a climate controlled garage and only driven in perfect weather and perfect conditions....parts are rediculous to find and even if you can find ....gotta take out 3 home equity loans and sell a kidney to pay for them....we now know why you got it for so dam cheap......sell for parts and rid yourself of this nightmare or if body and frame are solid put an LS in it and make and get rid of soft top and make a nice weather car that has no top at all.....
I'm glad you didn't trash it . I am so tired of idiots trashing future collectables . We have a 93 Probe GT and a 95 Taurus SHO both destined for the scrap heap and we fixed them up and are enjoying them .
19:24 JR went full Wookie!
I loved these when they came out. If this had been rear wheel drive they might still make them today.
You should have been looking at the Lincoln mark vii. Vastly superior in design and performance.
@@joshuasprinkles3490You seen those on the road for years too. Must of held up well. However I was in love with convertibles at the time lol.
Now now, don’t disrespect the Allante! I just bought a 1989. It sat out in the country outside for 6 years. There was a problem with the digital dash. Dick at Allante source told me what the problem was. I ordered the part from him for $125, put in and it all works great? Still cleaning it up a bit. Had some wires damaged from mice. I think it was a garage queen all it life prior to being put outside. It’s in really good shape. It has 62,000 miles. I paid $1,200. It’s a fun car and fast. He probably could have made a fortune parting it out. Everyone that owns one needs something sooner or later.
Great video from JR.
I drove a black 91 Allante for 5 years, looked amazing with the top down but was waaay over done with all of the futuristic ‘tech’ that seemed to fail at a new spot every week. If they would have kept it analog and RWD, this thing would be a classic. This may be a candidate for an EV swap 😀
EV swap⚡️
That might help !
That thing is certified clapped out! Definitely not worth the headache trying to fix it, but definitely 200 bucks worth of fun!
The color coding is a good idea because a lot of people don't know the first thing about what's under the hood or where fluids are supposed to go
Welcome back JR. Best entertainment in Kansas 👍🇺🇸
You're a good man JR for thinking about saving that car. I'm glad you passed the Allante down the road. I hope you can use that $200 for the SAAB. (I shared your SAAB videos with the SAAB club of Arizona).
Whoa, that thing is loud! I was laughing so much and then you said "it's as loud as your John deer", laughing even harder. I see that the DMV clerk was checking out the car's spects! 😆 🤣 😂 When will we see more rat-vett repairs?
I drove one of these to senior prom in the mid 90’s that I borrowed from my dads best friend. Felt like a million dollars in it. All digital gauges.
Interesting car. Love these videos of these random cars lately.
You are dropping knowledge in this video , never heard of the bulb thing or third brake light
Should have used it as a test vehicle for the crusher your dad is working on. LOL
I see a nice LS3 swap project car as the body is plenty nice enough for that. Cut out the tunnel to make room for a trans & make it rear wheel drive, place a rear axle back there and make it what it should have been. It would be a really cool project car, looks like a perfect donor for that.
Why not just swap in an ls4 from an impala/ grand prix gxp? Way less fab work, and the trans will mount up the same.
Blackwing would be the ultimate swap
*I Wish i'd known before hand that you had this, I've always wanted one of those and there are yards here in Middle TN that have tons of those cars that i can rob parts off of*
The John Deere Allante Luxury 2 Seater the ideal family mower for those lazy Sundays.
Ok I pretty much died with laughter when JR revved the Allante. It couldn't sound more far off than what an American V8 is supposed to sound like.
I remember these. The Body was really cool. The American parts were American parts, so… but the body was so unique. Yes definitely crush it.
One of my dream builds is to convert one of these to electric. I absolutely love how these cars look.
Glad my 1990 does not sound like a John Deer lawn mower. Very dependable engine. My ac clutch is out, gets hot here in Dallas. Great segment! JR GO!
I am in the process of tying to save an 89 Allante, it is on my channel, it was parked for 9+ years.
You can take the trunk hold down motor apart and make it close normal on Cadillac and Buick
What a great car! I am really looking forward to you fixing this one up. And really, ten or fifteen thousand or a 50,000 that's nothing!
One of my all time favorite cars
I am in the process of trying to save an 89 Allante, same color, it is on my channel.
This is the content I'm here for!
That long tube intake manifold reminds me of the Yamaha Built Ford engine and it sounds like a minibike. FUN!
That strut tower bar makes me LOL.
I’ve always had a soft spot for these since I first saw one in one of the Lethal Weapon movies. Might be a laugh to fix it up for next summer….maybe not this particular example though.
That Caddy sounds like my old Mercmobile it was a 59 Mercury with a 455 Olds WildCat Engine & Trans. Had a hole drilled thru the dash to open up the 4BBL with a heavy-duty string and no Exhaust with a Railroad Rail welded to the frame for a Front Bumper. My best friend and I got $250.00 for clearing 10 acres of overgrowth. The farmer wanted it knocked down and ran over because there was a million 1" - 2" Pine Trees growing on that former corn field. Very True Story... Old Frank Parent there in Houston he had a family Birthday Party and BBQ while we Smashed everything with the Tank.. They were all laughing..
I do believe this was GM's answer to the LeBaron, I seen one and compared it with an Allante, the two share some similarities. Beautiful, classy, and stylish car, a real shame it didn't live up to its full potential.
Finally a car I can stand by. I'd love to have it.
Great video 👍.
Fisher body plant was my hometown! Hamilton, Ohio
Huge warehouse now called Fisher Industrial Park
Sounds like a spark plug came out 😆 love the Chanel keep on keeping on
Man. I love the style of this car and the red looks great on camera... but as you named off things wrong with it, the impossibility of finding parts for it made my head spin. Good jorgb passing it to the next guy.. not a headache I would want.
I dealt with the headache since 2017! It was running sorta kinda pretty decent a couple years ago. 🥴
There are 3 excellent restoration experts and probably many more less known ones for the Allante'. Dick Hussy, West Palm Bch Florida, John Monzo, NJ and Tom Rohner, California. All parts are availiable. All problems can be fixed/sorted out. GM lost over a million dollars on each of the 21,430 Allante's built. I LOVE them and have had my first two problems sorted out and driven each a few times from Ontario, Canada to Florida. I'm on my 3rd and found they have held their values. I think the design is most excellent.
Our current luxury cars will be even bigger junkpiles in a few years
Someone forgot to put the sealant pellets in the cooling system! The 4.1, 4.5, 4.9 and Northstar all need the pellets in the system to keep them from leaking...this is a factory speck. You can actually find this on the info under the hood, i know for sure on the Northstar.
That breaking system is similar to what the mid-80s Grand Nationals and GNXs had, only they did not have ABS pumps. But they did have a similar booster, if not the same, and those are nightmares to restore. Many people simply chuck the entire system for a conventional master cylinder if they're not restoring the GN to be a chalkmark, showroom nut and bolt restoration.
Definitely thought you were gonna go Daddy Doug on us there announcing the "quirks and features". 😁 That is definitely not how a V8 is supposed to sound. I'm no expert but I feel pretty confident in that take.
caddy, perfectg car and perfect price. i hope north europe can buy cadillac same price someday too.
Love it! You should give it to someone who will restore it and let you in on the project for your channel. 👍☺
I had 1 in high school it was cool but could never get the electrical gremlins in the dash to stop bugging me but was cool !
I believe it... before canbus electronics were ROUGH 💯
@@WatchJRGo I also had a masarati Chrysler TC lol 😂 also a weird 90s luxury wannabe. Never could get the thing to run right ! Miss the old days 🤣
Time for a LS Swap!...and struts for the trunk and hood.
A favorite design of mine as well. Parts may be hard to come by.