The Death Of Long Running Shonen
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
- I miss the days when long running shonen had filler arcs (GIVE ME A JJK FILLER ARC DAMN IT).
Timestamps:
Intro - 00:00
How Did We Get Here - 03:57
Shonen World-building Go BRRRRR - 06:07
Subtle World-building Still Go BRRRR - 07:52
With Characters this good, who needs World-Building - 08:49
Fairy Tail is Actually a Good Shonen - 09:32
Shonen Jump Is Dying - 11:15
Mid-Bump - 12:15
I Hate Seasonal Anime - 12:53
I REALLY HATE SEASONAL ANIME (Tangent) - 14:25
Back To The Normal Video - 14:47
The Death Of Long Running Shonen - 16:22
Outro - 16:48
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FINALLY, A FELLOW SOUTH AFRICAN ANIME FAN. DUDE ID COME HOME EVERY DAY, WATCH ANIME FROM 17:00 TO 17:30 ON SABC 2 (either Bleach or Naruto) AND THEN WATCH THE POKÉMON EPISODE I RECORDED RIGHT AFTER. IT WAS SO BAD
I'd be more sad about this if mangaka could actually handle the stress of long running manga, but even with decades of examples to learn from, artists will be lucky to put out 200 Chapters before breaking down.
It's really bad honestly, even as someone who loves long running manga, I would honestly prefer these mangaka move to a magazine that allows them to publish at their own pace like Jump + or Jump Square
It’s the life they chose , most get cancelled before they even have a chance. Manga is a sport of champions
@@selfishbeats Perhaps treating it less like a sport would reduce ass pulls, pacing issues and unsatisfying endings.
@@LJ-hk4tv anime fans are unpleasable, there will always be "pacing issues, ass pulls and unsatisfying endings"
@@selfishbeats That's why I said "reduce".
You kinda have to give it to seasonal. When continuously dropping episodes it’s harder to keep the anime behind the manga which either rushes the source material or forces filler episodes and arcs while they’re trying to put out chapters. Seasonal relieves stress on creators in my opinion and like you said when given time they can do great things.
Agreed, but some seasonal anime are catching up way to quickly to the manga source material, look at Bungo Stray Dogs, Spy x Family and The Case Study of Vanitas. They all got so popular to the point that the anime caught up to the manga and the mangaka haven't had enough time to create more chapters or because of the way they drop chapters, it's going very very slowly.
I'm not saying this as an excuse to put out pointless fillers that drag out the story for no point btw, filler was, at least from my POV, always used to help mangaka with on-going stories to get far enough ahead that the studio didn't have to start pulling shit out of it's ass just to meet the weekly quota, it's one of the reasons why the bleach adaptation is an abomination for manga readers to watch.
The older I get the more I’m okay with this. Being 30 now I enjoy tuning in every week for 12-24 weeks to watch an anime and then it being done and I can move on to other things.
Agreed, especially if the show is genuinely worth watching
It is harder to re-watch my long running favorites in full. Though I still re-watch them often and I don't think I tend to re-watch anything in full anyway. Even when it is short. I always opt for my favorite bits and scenes. The best arcs, etc.
Bro you are completely right about long running shows, I fell in love with bleach in middle school and I’m now 22 years old, I have girlfriend who loves anime and we watched bleach together and it’s one of her favorites, one day she was crying at the end of the original series where everyone goes to an ice rink for fun and she just started crying out of nowhere and when I asked why she said it’s because everyone looks so much older. Even she, as someone who had only been watching for like a year felt like she grew with these characters and it really does mean a lot to the people watching
I always say this isn’t a problem. Mangaka having the opportunity to finish their mangas on their terms when they want instead of being forced by editors to keep it going (dragonball) or needlessly extending a series length well past the manga quality dipped long ago (naruto, bleach) is a good thing. Makes for more happier mangaka escaping the horrible throws of mangaka work lifestyles and ending their art on their terms when they want it to end. That’s not bad
I'm glad authors like Gege are getting to end their manga at their own pace!
But the samme time they should learn to not be as axwehappy to get series that fills that room. That have longlivity potential, if you let them. Its goof to have moderate long that in case get a sequel.
Capitalism eh, never learns :(
But weekly releases, that did , a lot harm too that its missing.
@@marocat4749I’ll never forgive them for cancelling ayashimon and red hood 😭
Dragon Ball wasn't forced to keep going. Toriyama ended it on his terms. The only thing his editors "forced" him to do was constantly change the villain for the Android/Cell saga.
If there's one thing Gege isn't doing is a good job, even if on their terms. But that's a lack of understanding of why doing stuff works for other series and not for theirs. All characters have been treated poorly up to this point
My biggest problem with new era 12 episode seasonal anime is that everything happens so quickly, there's no build up, barely any world building. They peak really early with no buy in. I don't even know the characters and they're dead already. There's no incentive for the viewer. So you only get a mid forgettable story experience.
Jjk is prime example of this but it’s still goated. And it don’t think it would be any better if it was longer
@@getpape4126it looks like we need balance whenever this problem happens
It think the problem comes with miliking everything in a season of 12 episodes rather than expanding a hole series with it.
The prime example for me is cyberpunk edgerunners, that have the potential for at least 3 or 4 season and they concluded everything in one and you have to play a 60 dolar AAA game to continúe the story
Naruto Shipp's length makes it below mid.
@@Scott-xb1ku Personally, the writing dropped so badly. Too many plot holes and retcons. I wish Pain was the final arc the very least.
"he Death Of Long Running Shonen"
Laughs in One Piece (gear 5)
What comes after One Piece though?
@@tyronsredux when the king falls the subjects follow. Jump relying way to much on op you know op carying when jump have a cover of luffy siting like a king
@@tyronsredux detective conan
Oda carried 2023
The manga, anime, and live action went crazy and we still not finished with this year
@@JacoB-wp4wsfunny how thats actually older than one piece
It's not really a problem, honestly. Modern mangaka are just "maturing," if that's an appropriate word to use. They're realizing, "Oh. There's not much more story to tell. Let me finish so I can move on to my next idea." It's honestly a good thing. Don't let staff bully you into continuing a story long past the ending, and don't just milk the story until there's nothing left, even for a sequel. Dragon Ball and Naruto are perfect examples of each of the scenarios I mentioned.
Strike while the iron is hot, but once it cools down, stop hitting it.
Exactly, I think Mashle: Magic and Muscles would be a good example of a series that knew that it was going to jump in and jump out (pun not intended). It got what it wanted to get across and the mangaka knew despite how popular it was, he wasn't going to milk it.
Tokyo Revengers is a bad example of this, a genuinely good long running series that the author milked the hell out off right at the end even though it was long past it's run.
@tyronsredux I would say the same for Avatar, the Last Airbender on the western side. They went in, made an amazing show, and then dipped.
The sequel doesn't exist in my eyes. That's just Nickelodeon fan fiction to me lol.
Maybe just maybe
This is sao in a nutshell lol.
First 8 or so episodes were amazing, top tier, they were about sword art online as the name suggests. After that they just milked it with all those random arcs and games and stuff.
If sao was literally a 12 episode anime with the sao arc + a little nice happy ending with asuna and kirito in the real world it would be one of the best animes to date. But they ruined it and now its just a joke.
@@imwalkingrnfun fact about SAO s writing: a lot of those first episodes were written at different points of the series as flashbacks with the original game being even shorter in the source (episode 2 s events were written after the series was finished for the anime as one example).
So the reason why the fairy game arc is pretty shit is because you went from the author at some of his most experienced to the writer when he was still new to writing.
8:45 It was shown that cursed users and cursed spirits exist beyond Japan, but they don't know about eachother and usually go solo. This is because there isn't that many jujutsu sorcerers who know about their power and the country probably sees them as mentally insane and they go into mental asylums.
My bad, maybe I mis-read the explanation, I thought it said that the cursed spirits only exist in Japan because of the barrier that Tengen created.
To be fair, a lot of Jujitsu sorcerers (which is redundant considering that, and I looked this up, "Jujitsu" means sorcery in Japanese) are insane or have gone insane. You would not want to deal in such things in the real world lest you, to quote Christopher Lee, lose not only your mind, but also your soul.
My major gripe with long running anime is the animation quality. Seasonal anime have more consistent high quality animation compared to weekly anime series.
Exactly, despite my complaints, I'd rather wait for Chainsaw Man and JJK level animation then have animators struggling just to give us weekly episodes of these series. The Toei staff that worked on Wano though, now they need to be studied for giving such high quality weekly episodes during the Wano Arc
I feel like the reason we don't get long running anime anymore is due to the age of streaming, because the same could be said for TV series. Before when you had to wait to watch your favorite show, we used to get 24 episodes per season and like 8,9,10 seasons of a show. But with the way we consume media now, if something isn't great then it gets canceled without any consideration to fix or better the mistakes that were made in the first season. As a relatively new anime watcher, I personally didn't like the art style in One Piece but I kept watching and I began to enjoy the world building, character development, new crew members, and the art style.
But unfortunately that cannot be said for new shows, it's either a hit or a miss. And it's like they want to keep the story short so as to not lose viewers with too many filler episodes.
Can I get my hug and kiss please.
@@sandraonyeka9071 🫂😘
bro your a new age weeb. went through all that with dbz and yu yu hakusho and others
Period the comment I was looking for
That toonami block and wb on Saturday mornings was amazing. He’s talking about waiting a day we had to wait a week sometimes for adult swim not to mention renting vhs tapes at blockbuster
the companies dont pay these studios/animators/artists enough for long running high quality anime
Coming across a South African RUclipsr talking about anime literally made me so happy 🇿🇦🔥
I'm here to represent my people dawg
Another problem too is something that we don't want to meet is the complaint about filler The reason why a lot of shows back in the day were long running is because when they will catch up with the manga they will have to create a new arc out of nowhere to hold over until the artist can get a little bit further ahead so they can animate it so that's another problem with the long-running series formula is that there's no in between and that's been a problem with the manga since the very beginning we can have an arc where we go through all of these emotions and these cool battles or whatever and then there's no downtime or we jump right into the next arc without any lead up that be the problem and I think that's why we kind of do need a little bit of filler just to either give the cast a break or to transition. Until the mangaka artist can catch up and do more when you have the seasonal animes you're literally holding out until the manga artist can draw a lot of chapters so they can animate it and that's the reason why you see my Hero academia and jiu jitsu kaizen taken you know these long breaks because of the fact that they're not putting filler in it and that's great after a while but eventually you're going to have to put some kind of filler into these animes in order to keep them going for a long time to keep them in the cultures like guys to keep people from for getting about the anime and the manga itself
I love long form content . One piece with 1000+ eps ? I’m with it . Warhammer 40K with over 600 novels ? Hell yea. I love world building and really getting to know characters . It saddens me with all the short form content these days and short seasons
I'd rather most just be 28 to 59 episodes.
As someone in their 30's you start to value your time a lot more.
FINALLY! Another South African fan who actually knows a lot of anime and experienced anime through watching it on SABC 2 at 5 pm.
I gotta represent my fellow South African otakus
The pain of waiting for 5 and the sorrow you would feel when Thursday came up😭😭 but im glad we got introduced to the media
Streaming saved us
I lost 5 years of my childhood wait each and everyf@cking day trying to watch Naruto Shippuden on SABC 2 😭💦
Memomrable days ngl
Its refreshing to see a South African anime channel. I love what youre doing here brother .🙌
I'm here to represent my people
@@tyronsredux dankie boi!
I think Ninenouh was South African iirc. Though he doesn't make videos anymore and has purged a lot of his content.😭
There's still some anime editorial content left. Miss that guy. Thanks for filling the Anitube void, Tyronsredux. Great video!
I won't lie I sometimes skipped after-care or school clubs just ro be comfortable by 5 to watch Naruto and Bleach on SABC 2
You had your pritories straight, I don't blame you for wanting to watch Kino
@@tyronsredux 😂
One piece got me to anime, there was a time it played on SABC 2
Oh word. I was only there during the Naruto run of SABC 2
The problem i have with the new series is timing,they wanna hit every point very quickly with barely any build up like yea i like them but i dont have that same attachment i had with the long runs so now when something big happens its cool but dont get me super hype
Very ture, but remember that these series are also trying to avoid being axed by Jump. If they don't hook people in with hype immediatly they run the risk of being axed. It's even currently happening with Kagurabachi at the moment even though the community is memeing TF out of it
@@tyronsredux yeah...and its a shame they really should let them give every moment there proper time and who knows maybe they could get there next dragon ball or one piece
It always manifests as unfulfilled potential and painful blue balls.
Your nostalgia is showing.
I'm not going to lie I really hope that MHA and Black clover was going to be the next Naruto where we could see the progression of the characters and world building.
I would have liked that as well but the mangaka for those series scripted the end of show years in advance and likely going off script to add content would lead to worse arcs.
Progresion and world bulding in naruto? Give me a break.
In fact one piece in those aspects make naruto look like... well boruto.
@@motor4X4kombat Yes You are 100% right but I don't want my hero to be as long as OP. OP is special
@@michaelkhairi7360 heres the thing about one piece, while the WB is great, the manga spent waaay too much time in one place to the point the story felt stuck for years before it can actually continues. Is kinda like reading the detours from lord of the rings, that individually are interesting (hell Tolkien even made appendages from those) but they barelly add anything to the overall story that for very good reasons they were mostly cut from the Peter Jackson films, some of them were save for the extended cuts. Hell the live action one piece is following these footsteps by focusing in the things that add to the story and leave out the things that drag the plot to a hault.
@@michaelkhairi7360 Oda is immortal and MHA's creator would die from that much work (like any other mortal).
SABC 2: When 5 o'clock was 5 o'clock!
WHERE YOU BELONG!
I hope you know you’ll conquer whatever you’re going through as well. Thank you for the video
Thanks man, that's really nice to hear
Bruh I understand pain of sabc 2 ads , and it's like 2min worth of ads
2 minute adds and they did it like 2 or 3 times PER EPISODE bruh I'm so glad we can just stream now😂
@ssjduncan7682 facts ,I was tired of looking at oros and standard bank and funeral cover ads bruh like let me watch anime in piece
I’m glad Black Clover is actually coming back.
In decemeber.
I hope the anime gets the TYBW arc animation for the Spade War Arc
I'd love the anime to come back, but with a better production schedule. I'd hate a repeat of ep 1-170 continous episode and with what is going on with studio MAPPA's animators
Yo. I spent my early teens watching Naruto and dragon ball z on SABC 2 all the way here in Zambia
Damn, that's crazy bro
Buff Asta was the best part for me, gave me drive to be Buff Meltdown
Anime production shifted to seasonal mainly because of IRL stuff like business and the production itself. Besides, long-running anime are actually seasonal too. The rights to produce and broadcast didn't get sold as a whole (from the start until the series ended), they got renewed, usually per certain episode or arc. That's why the DVD versions of Bleach, Naruto, etc. were released in seasons.
Also, world building isn't just about places or areas. It includes everything like setting, societal norms, characters, and/or organization relations, etc. A world in One Piece is filled with pirates and ruled by a single organization called the World Government, that is also part of its world-building. and yes, it exists in seasonal anime like JJK too.
I mean I see what you mean but the 12-24 episode formula is only a product of its time. Personally I would rather wait for 24 episodes of a well produced show then get a weekly series where it looks really stiff. And this gets into manga as well. Shit like one piece would get axed almost immediately if it started publication today. People generally prefer faster paced story telling these days. It’s just what the industry has adapted into. But wtf do I know? Just my thoughts.
Why do you believe that One Piece would get axed immediately if it started publication today?, humor me, I'm curious of what you think
@@tyronsredux it’s because it starts off so slow. One piece took full advantage of its time to set up the world and characters. Series that publish on shounen jump these days are generally way faster paced and set things up much quicker
If you ain’t watching one piece then you sick and are missing out big time it’s the best of best
Who said I wasn't watching One Piece?🧐
he said u prob STARTED watching anime. WHO IN THIER RIGHT MIND STARTS WATCHING ANIME WITH ONE PIECE when ur done demon slayer will be in its 5th and last season
Guess I'm sick then
That’s cap asf one piece is only good at the adventure aspect world building and characters. One piece fights are dogshit compared to most other shounen naruto and bleach fights absolutely shit on one piece fights.
Its dying and im damn happy about it. I watched on piece and Naruto from my childhood to adult hood. When i was 22 thought thought hit me "Am i going to die of old age before one piece or naruto ended?" lmaoo. But all jokes aside long shonen is never as good as anime that only runs 2-4 seasons. Thats because each episode and season stuff actually happen, more efficient and impactful for you time, and short anime always leave you of wanting more. Rather than talking paragraphs about it lets see the difference of short anime vs lang animes.
JJK Yuji vs Choso against any naruto fight that lasted 6 episodes with 15 minutes being B-roll of them breathing heavily after clashing and 25 minutes of flashbacks of naruto on a swing with sad music.
I was speaking with my friends about this the other day how much I miss long running Shonen. I’ve turned more towards fantasy books and light novels to scratch a similar itch.
Got any light novels you want to recommend?
@@tyronsredux
re zero
mushoku tensei
oregairu
toradora
classroom of the elite
a certain magical index (my personal favorite)
bunny girl senpai
just a few off the top of my head and most of these light novels have anime adaptions anyways but they go more in depth than their anime adaptions.
Plus you can read anything from nisio isin (he made the monogatari series)
I LOVE THIS EDITING. AND THE BUMP SEGMENT?! chef’s kiss. You got a sub in me.
Thank you
I don't mind anime having seasons but what I hate is it's not set up for yearly releases like you said it can take 2 to 4 years to get a season 2 which is ridiculous.
Especially with how popular these shows/manga get, you would assume that the industry would try to make more of these popular shows. But I get it, you don't want to give a shit product just cause it's popular
Same bro the wait for jjk season 3 is gonna be excruciating
Your videos are amazing bro, kept it up !!
i agree on the video i'm use to and very fond of the long running format of getting an episode every week but i have gotten use to the seasonal format and appreciate the quality that comes with it congrats on 1k great vid !
Thank You
Can't believe you talked about Mashima and didn't even bring up Rave Master :P
Good video, I enjoyed it
From an anime watchers perspective I like the shorter ones. They are easier to watch and get caught up on. So I can avoid spoilers. The animation tends to be much better, and there is little to no filler. But in my opinion it is sometimes a bit harder to get invested in a character. Sometimes. As where a long running anime like One Piece. Of which I've watched 580 episodes. There is lots of time to get invested in the characters, and you can often times grow very fond of a character. Also because you've seem so much of these characters in a longer anime, you can often predict what they might do next. Which some people hate that, but I personally like it. It kinda feels like you grew up along side them. It's kinda like a sibling in my eyes. You've been around them so very much that you can sometimes practically read their mind. Which I find fun.
So, yeah. In short. I like shorter animes. For the most part.
Each one has it's benefits honestly
@@tyronsredux Yeah... That's true.
That Case Closed mention hit me like a flashbang. Not many people know about it.
don’t worry , i’ll bring back long running anime, just give me 16 years, my Radicals comic will be my magnum opus
Save the Long Running Anime Society, K-Manny😶🌫
Counting on ya buddy 😭🙏
my answer to this is: hopefully yes
the stress and overwork that a animator goes to make a season anime is already a great one. now imagine having to work non-stop in a production until it ends (who knows when). its just paintful to think about the harsh things that animators in anime industry in japan are going throw. so i prefer season series that comes with less overwork and pain to the workers than have an eternal anime with workers suffering to bring every episode
I agree a 1000%. I actually saw a take on twitter that kinda of resonated with me and the person said that since One Piece is in it's final Saga, it should have gone seasonal. If we got Wano level animation from seasonal One Piece. I wouldn't even be mad.
i for one would be *extremely* annoyed if One Piece randomly decided to change its format to seasonal just for the final saga
honestly it annoyed me with Bleach TYBW as well, i'd rather they stick to a single format for the entire duration of the story instead of abruptly switching midway through.
@@fluoriette9979 Are you telling me you don't like TYBW?
@@tyronsredux i like it but i wish it didn't have an arbitrary 52-episode cap
@@fluoriette9979the episode cap isn't arbitrary. Seasons are 13 episodes for alot of anime. 4 seasons=52 episodes. They could give them 65 episodes but bleach doesn't have 65 episodes worth of story
Yeah, weekly anime are almost always harder to make than seasonal anime and it shows because of schedules and other production things. I don't mind seasonal anime, but I agree that it waiting for the new season sometimes loses the hype. W video, keep up the good work.
Man the SABC 2 struggle was real 😅
those damn ads were the bane of my existence.
The meta for the comic went from Long running stories w/ grand worldbuilding , w/ "bloat" to shorter ones with less world building, less character development, and more action. It's like they were made to be binged.
Anime-wise, now the industry is producing is 3/4x more things under arguably more conditions. Capitalism is hell.
Bro! This was a well done vid man. I actually thought you were American based off your thumb nail design. What a surprise it was to hear your South American. As a Nigerian who has been in South Africa since 2009 i relate to that SABC 2 hate😂. Keep up the great quality bro, I'm proud if you and you just got yourself a new sub.
Glad you like the video bro, and thanks for the support
Not to mention sabc2 restarted Dbz TWICE FROM THE BEGINNING! Once when it was around frieza saga and another close to the end of cell saga I think... And those were DAM LONG
I remember that pain lol
I feel you 😂 "SABC 2 at 5pm"
WHERE YOU BELONG!🤣
lol now that i hear it in this video with one piece visuals, the vocals in that nier automata village song really do sound like they're saying 'one piece'
Ngl, when I added in Pascals theme during the One Piece segment I didn't notice that it sounded like it was saying "One Piece" until a commentor mentioned it lol
Great video and I'd love to add to discussion better but I'm on the tail end of a short lunch break but we really need more people loud about SJ's tendency to keep early axing creative stories that aren't doing whatever numbers that "indicate" one of the BIG series early enough, at a time where people have less time/money to indulge in reading.
I feel like too many REALLY GOOD SERIES lose their chance bc of these impossible expectations and it's extremely sad, esp with SJ nearly controlling the industry (while still mistreating their mangaka like crazy)
My uncle used to watch a shitton of Naruto episodes with a pirated DVD because that's how we watch anime since the 30% population of filipinos barely could afford a TV and caples at the early 2010s and 2000s.
Not to mention just getting a computer and Wifi is more difficult compare to nowadays where most of them can watch a shitton of attention span reducing brain dead content with a phone on their hands.
Very true!
i subbed because the little bump message made me smile, thank you
I'm glad I could make you smile buddy🤗
Wow this a great video bro! Def hit that subscribe! Hope you hit your 1000 soon my guy🙏🏾
Thanks bro!
i was born in 2005 my intro to anime were anime's from the 80's and studio ghibli movies than pokemon and akame ga kill
Ghibli is honestly a good introduction to anime, waht are some of your favourite ghili movies?
if jjk is a long running series, the animators are now in a death bed, they are already half alive now anyways.
Can't believe we could finish a 20min episode in an hour with all the ads in between
I know right😂
6:04 And the superb characterization, particularly how the Straw Hats engaged during the festival in the Davy Back Fight arc on Adult Swim, captured my interest. The comedy was what sold me on it.
I must be deranged AF since I started my love with anime watching HXH
You crazy bastard
Liked hearing the megalobox soundtracks in the background, that series has some great OSTs.
Probably my second favourite anime OST, Attack on Titan is my current Favourite
Idk how i noticed but when talking about one piece you placed nier music. FUCKING LEGEND
And feel that on the fairy tail part its the witcher music but tell me if im coping
You are coping, but I can tell why you would think it would be The Witcher music, the music in Fairy Tail is very celtic inspired. The Witcher OST has Celtic and nowergian elements in it
i wish they atleast left us with 12 episode seasons for black clover. Its so sad that they just fully stopped it before the best arc 😭😭😭
I have a feeling once Bleach TYBW is done, Pierrot is gonna pump so much money into the Black Clover war Arc
Its always sad to see a fairy tale fan is so oblivious not to know that rave master exist
I know that Rave Master exists, pretty rude of you to assume I don't know Mashima's works
problem is alot of these manga have a rushed feeling to it so when its over readers think they should have spent more time on certain characters or concepts
That Nier Soundtrack slapping tho.
Peak video game soundtrack
You should do an anime tier list
I read all chapters. best manga ever. one of the few I grew up reading week to week. few people I've met have read the manga which is sad because it was a good manga.
0:36 Especially when they tricked us with Dragon Ball Z or Naruto playing at 5pm just for another show to play 😤
I was so mad
There isn't just cursed spirits in japan too if im not mistaken the character "Yuta" was overseas in a mission
does anyone have the song name to 12:24?
Great video man. I just wanted to to know if you've ever checked out any anime on Animax (or was I the only South African that watched that channel)? I discovered a couple of good shows there, like Black Lagoon and Elfen Leid.
I never watched Animax brother, i was as you would say........poor af when I was growing up
It strongly depends. I think the sweet spot from my evaluations might be somewhere around 40-100 episodes as being ideal. But then again look at HxH how do you tell an expansive amazing story without it being longer than 100 eps. Whenever Bersek finally gets a proper no CGI laden adapation it will be another longer than 100. I think people saying that shorter is better are somewhat incorrect. Rushing through scenes and not fleshing out ideas is just as bad as stretching it out too long.
Instant subscribe for the Mashima section and not being negative about it or even mentioning it
RUclips cut out the Mashima section so I'm gonna post the full section on my Patreon
which anime scene is shown on 5:04
That's D-Gray Man bro
What is background music that starts at 8:00 ?
It's a song from NieR Replicant
ruclips.net/video/fr82psgorZY/видео.htmlsi=y5hICiFVutKW4Qp8
Man the 1980's. Ole boy. Akura, Hellsing, Dragonball, Sailor moon, Vampire Hunter D, and Ronin Warriors. Miss all those.
Damn bruh, you old asl🥲
Jokes aside, I really should watch some of these classics, especially Vampire Hunter D
@@tyronsredux Lol. Yea some good old ones bro. I couldn't remember all but those are my favorite. That old asl comment funny as hell. If you watch hellsing watch both the original and OVA
Aah, a South African finally contributing to the anime conversation. I didn't even know Bleach was on sabc 2 until I saw it about 3 years ago, I was shook!
All the south african anime peeps are on Tik Tok and I don't have the energy to make quick shorts when I prefer to talk about it in much longer segments
@@tyronsredux well I'm glad you're here because I can't do the very short anime discussion on Tik Tok, prefer the long videos on here
I'm more shooked that he didn't say one piece was one of the anime that were in sabc 2
@@yrnkevinsmithC-137 There was a ton of anime on SABC 2 that I could have listed honestly, but I thought the three main ones that we grew up was Naruto, Bleach and DBZ
@@tyronsredux I honestly only know of those 4
Bleach thousand year blood war arc proved that seasonal adaptation is the best way for shounen. Imagine a seasonal Dressrosa arc and it runs for 2 seasons with the pace of the manga and amazing animation. I know it won’t happen because Toei won’t stop milking it and there might be actual backlash from the Japanese fans. Even though Wano had good animation for the most part the pacing was horrendous. Atleast the newer shonen have seasonal anime adaptations. Demon Slayer, a super mid to decent manga plot and character wise, benefitted so much that it feels like a missed opportunity with One Piece and DBS. F*** you Toei!
Agreed, Seasonal One Piece would be really amazing honestly
12:20 what's this song called??
Need the name of that of track during the ‘ bump ‘ section, my guy 👏🏾👏🏾🙌🏾 . My Shazam couldn’t find it nor could I find it in the comments ):
That is one of my own personal tracks. I'm a musician as well
It’s crazy my hero was your intro to seasonal anime
Believe it or not, I was one of those shonen bros, the only anime I think I had watched around the time was probably Fairy Tail, Akame Ga Kill (I dropped this and literally forgot about it until typing this message out lol), Naruto and Dragon Ball Z (but because it was on broadcast television, I didn't really know what the difference , but I didn't really know the format of seasonsal and long running shows, the shows just didn't end so......I just kept watching lol) despite how much I love these shows now. I actually dropped the anime and went back to watching (western) cartoons until My Hero burst onto the scene.
I guessed you could say my hero was the anime that made me fall in love with anime again, Naruto was the first anime I ever watched, Fairy Tail was the first anime that I fell in love with and My Hero was the anime that made me fall back into love with the medium lol
as im commenting your correcting so i paused. but yea i had toonami and adult swin which also had weekly, outlaw star, cowboy bebop, and tenchi muyo and others. so thanks for your correction. and gundam lol
Weekly anime was peak
Man i feel so nostalgic for those days watching anime on SABC2. I kinda gravitated away from shonen (accept for one piece) and just jumping between comedies, trashy fanservice shows and even shojo, the only Shonen ive been actively watching are one-piece and CSM.
I still whatch stuff, just not as engaged as i am with them
Great video!
I’m also really hoping, that JJK gets a filler episode
Sadly, I don't think we are ever gonna get that
Hey bro, I respect your opinion and all, but fuck you for saying that🖕
they did do the little story recaps for the people that are too lazy to watch the first season and movie
My introduction to anime was Detective Conan.
Are you still watching Detective Conan?
Wow! How'd you manage that? How'd you come across Detective Conan / Case Closed?
@@FullmoonPhantom-dn2srMy real introduction to anime is Mario, Megaman, Pokemon, and Sonic X
@@noahalcantar2431 Cool. Mine was Kenshin, InuYasha, and Ranma. Then some others my friend group got me into were Fruits Basket, Ouran, YYH, and Tokyo Mew Mew. After I realized what anime was, I also realized I had known the existence of several others in passing like Naruto, Pokémon, Yugioh among a handful of others. Just through the cultural zeitgeist I had picked up through osmosis. In the end, I decided to watch all of these. If I liked one anime, I might like several others after all. Loved all of these. Though, I never did go back and watch Pokémon. I adored it, but I let that one be just a nostalgic memory from childhood. It did become clear why I loved Avatar so much growing up and preferred many of the other cartoons that were highly influenced by anime or were literally anime like Pokémon. The 2000s especially was quite the time. So many things were influenced even if creators weren’t always forthcoming back in those days. It was kinda hush hush, I think, that’s why many weren’t forthcoming. It wasn’t cool for authors and other creators to admit they were influenced by foreign sources. Not yet. People often talked around the issue even when they were trying to be more forthcoming w/o literally saying it outright.
Good vid
Thanks bro
what was the name of the slice of life anime there at the end you mentioned
Which anime? Give me a time stamp so I know which anime you are referring too
its like the last anime had a weird name i couldnt type out
@@tyronsredux
lol i just gave mainly space animes but also ghost in the shell
Fantastic video man. Great job.
Thank You!
outside of shonen jump, we have detective conan series with 1118 chapters and 300 manga canon episodes, altough after reveal of main villain of the part, and main villain of the entire story, series is on final stretches like one piece
Wait fr? The Detective Conan manga is about to end as well?
@@tyronsredux yeah, since name of main villain of the story was revealed, but anyway manga is publishing like 20 chapters per year, so this will take even longer than one piece, and one romance needs to be completed before heading to final part, detective conan has literally jojo formula of arcs and parts
and unfornuately anime manga arcs are returning when there is new manga arc being published and i have to wait every 2 or 3 months or even longer for just two episodes arc adaptation :(
been watching anime since 2009 and only problem i have with one piece that it might end
crazy thing is, we are very close to the end
anyone know the anime at 16:21? Ive' never seen it before, also lit vid
That's Demon Slayer brother
Never even knew fairy tail was hated till I spent some time on the internet, I love fairy tail and love the music and world.
Also started losing interest in anime the shorter they all got, even though I’ve also watched a lot of 12 episode anime’s over the years they were more slice of life and more grounded in our world, so I didn’t feel the need to know more about the world etc
I’ve read a lot of manga and manwha now doe and even light novels
Also feel like animation got too polished, there was a certain charm to animation style back in the day that just felt more charming to me. I didn’t even know anime was a thing till I moved to America at 13 and fell in love and watched so many but somewhere along the way I just found myself reading Manga more
I did watch overlord, saga of Tanya and one punch man. And the first two is what even got me into reading light novels.
Slice of life is the best anime genre
FT is mostly just hated for the popularity and other superficial reasons like it's too similar to OP. In-fighting between the different anime fandoms within the anime community is not anything new. People complain about the power of friendship, but that is in plenty of other anime. It's a staple of the battle anime genre and of the ideals Shonen marketed stories are meant to provide to young people.
I wouldn't say FT is hated anymore than anything else that gained immense popularity.
That fairy tail ost hitting all the nostalgia buttons
Peak OST!😎
Its nice to see someone else sense that feeling I felt when watching Blackclover or older long running anime. I have craved that feeling of long running shonen since. One piece has filled that gap absolutely
always have a good plot and able to last if you want it to keep going
I see this as an absolute win
Finish your stories and don't milk them
Never forgiving Ken Wakui for milking the hell out Tokyo Revengers when it should have ended
@@tyronsreduxcan you explain how it was milked and when you think it should have ended? I personally think we needed the explanation on Mikey’s character but the last few arcs were written so horribly 😭🙏
@@bacongod5759 Honestly the series should have ended after the Tenjiku Arc. The decison to star focusing Mikey's "Dark Urges" was were the story decided to jump off the peak that it had reached. I don't even mind that Ken wanted to focus on Mikey but why not earlier during the manga, Mikey has always been a volatile person so having an arc before the Tenjiku Arc to get to the root of Mikey's problem would have been a much better way to conclude his arc. Then after the Tenjiku arc the story would end after the wedding and with an Epilogue chapter.
Jjk is prime example no boring bullshit just peak.