Product Roundup: YS640s
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2019
- Chef Tom has now logged hundreds of hours on the YS640s and gives his take on how the new grill from Yoder Smokers performs. Check out features including how the grill syncs with the new Yoder Drive App, the new control board and Chef Tom's favorite cooking setups.
YS640s & YS480s IN STOCK NOW: bit.ly/30AiKdJ
Learn more about the S Series: bit.ly/2QWRQZz
When is the control board going to be available for people to upgrade their old control boards on the 640?
Look for that to be released in just over a month - we're thinking the beginning of Oct. Stay connected to our newsletters and social media posts for when it's ready to purchase & ship.
@@allthingsbbq I can't wait! I love my ys 640. Best cooker around!
Check Amazon, lots of Chinese companies make them. I got an upgraded controller for my pit boss for $50 Canadian. Which is like $0.37USD.
Chuck Beef why would I want to buy some cheap crap for my Yoder 😂
Have they released the controler?
I've had my 640s for about 2 weeks now. I've done ribs, steaks, used the griddle for bacon, and tomorrow I'm doing some pulled pork. It's been awesome. So far, zero complaints.
Nice!
Thats like saying I've had my yoder for 2 days and so far zero complaints.
Hi there was wondering if u can give an honest feedback regarding the ys640s. Looking to buy one and was just looking around for some reviews. Before i splashed a lot of money on it. Pretty pricey for the yoders up here north in Canada
@Clint Christo I would like to know as well!
Worth the price?
Amazing Grill and a perfect presentation by Chef Tom as always 👍👍👍
You nailed that one what a great video and preview thanks!!!
Chef Tom is the best! Great informational videos & recipes thanks!
Yes! I was waiting for this!!
I've been a Big Green Egg guy for 6 years now but after watching your videos I'm seriously considering getting a 640s. It looks awesome!
I got my first smoker as a gift two months ago. It's a Louisiana grills brand. I love that yoder and want one. In the meanwhile I'll keep watching and learning from your videos.
Thanks for watching! Hope you join the Yoder nation someday!
Just ordered mine from you guys. Can't wait!
Heck yes Jeff! Congrats, let's get to cookin!
Just ordered mine!
Thanks Tom! Just bought mine today!!
That's great!
I couldn't agree with you more. By far, the best I've ever used. Great video as always.
Thanks for watching!
Love mine. Ordered it from atbbq as well as all my pellets. Great grill!
I love my Yoder ys640 have had it over 4 yrs. I hear those new control boards will be available to upgrade to sometime this year. I hope it is soon.
You've heard the truth! Look for that to be released in just over a month - we're thinking the beginning of Oct. Stay connected to our newsletters and social media posts for when it's ready to purchase & ship.
Thanks so much ~~
I will be buying one
amazing thanks chef
Hi there awesome video.
I just got my ys640s few days ago. Ran the burn in process and did another test run after that. Just had a question. My smoker was much hotter on the right side like almost 100° hotter on the right. And the temperature were all over place. Was fluctuating like crazy and wouldn't stay consistent at the temp set.
Was wondering if you had any tips for how to control the temp and also keep it even throughout the chamber.
I need one of these grills in my life. I'm having a hard time saving up for it. Someday I'll get one.
I can't wait for the new controller to be released for the non S models!
Look for that to be released in just over a month - we're thinking the beginning of Oct. Stay connected to our newsletters and social media posts for when it's ready to purchase & ship.
I truly love that cooker. Someday...
We do too!
Was hoping for a 640s giveaway at the end. LOL. One can hope. Love the videos. I make my brisket like you do your backyard one every time and not a bad one yet. (20+) Going to move up to a Yoder next year I think. I just bought a Kamado style Q and will practice on it for a couple months. Rock on Chef Tom!!
Thanks for watching Derek! Keep up the good work at your house!
I like it , I love it, I bought on of them. I guess this makes you not only a great chef, But also a sales man. After spending 4k. I still love it!
Love my 480 cant wait to get the controller upgrade
Won't be long now. Look for that to be released in just over a month - we're thinking the beginning of Oct. Stay connected to our newsletters and social media posts for when it's ready to purchase & ship.
Could you guys make a video comparing the pellet grill with offsets? I have a pecos and really always thought I would be in the offset camp…. I am starting to look at the yoder pellet grills for consistency and being able to run it low for long periods without having to baby the fire box … granted I like taking care of a fire but I wonder if the results on the ys640s are just as good flavor wise… please direct me to a video , I would love to hear what you guys think.
Does the temp reading on the digital monitor accurately reflect the temp inside of the smoker? So many other brands seem to fail here.
I've got to ask, what gloves do you have on under the Nitrile? I need these.
What is your recipe and instruction on the Pork Shoulders wrapped in butcher paper in this video? Do you like it more than your other video where you used foil?
with how clear, visible and intuitive the campchef newest interface honestly blows all others out of the water, and 4 probes as a standard. amazing, cannot wait for literally every other company to follow because something like that should be standard. im personally talking about the screen control unit for the woodwind 20.
Its a pos compared to the ys640s
When are they fixing the paint issue? Not pulling the trigger until they do
How would you compare it to the kamado Joe classic 3 for smoking, and searing?
What about the finishes scratching or chipping and rusting? I have read that is an issue with these. Any insight?
Thanks...you just cost me $3K. I submitted my ATBBQ order for the YS640S Competition Cart today after a lot of research and your videos.
You won't regret it! -Chef Britt
When you’re high heat grilling those steaks are you removing the plate over the fire-pot for more direct heat? Then wouldn’t the dripping fat extinguish the fire?
As always, great video! Question for you...I had a 640 and liked it a lot, but always wondered about the YS1500...I noticed there aren’t many references to this cooker...any reason it’s not used or shown as much as the 640? Thanks for producing these videos...they were a major reason I ordered a 640 at the time
We love the YS1500s! Most consumers don't "need" all of the space that the YS1500s offers which is why we typically cook on the 640s. However, many people say the flavor on the 1500s can't be beat. It offers a lot more space-- and can feed a VERY large crowd.
So alot of reviews on line are saying the temp that the control board is set at is 25 degrees below what the actual grill is. Is this true? So if i usually smoke ribs at 250 will i habe to set it at 275 so the rral temp is 250?
it's 5k GBP in the UK, traeger would be better right? I would love a yoder tho.
You helped make up my mind...
I am considering selling my offset smoker and gas grill and "upgrading" to a pellet- either the YS 640 or the Camp Chef Woodwind 36. My only detractors on the YS 640 are the 50% higher cost and there doesn't seem to be an easy way to empty the hopper to change out the pellets. The Camp Chef provides both the ease to empty the hopper as well clean out the ash. Can you help me justify spending the extra $600+ to get the Yoder? Do you have any experience with the Camp Chef Woodwind smokers?
Thanks for the vid Chef Tom great as always! I bought my 640s a couple weeks ago and have loved feeding my family on it every night since! One question... when warming up to do direct grilling (steaks, chops) I have been running at 500 and it does great. When warming it up sometimes it will jump up to 600-650 before it stabilizes. I have the 2 piece heat deflector. Should I remove the heat deflector insert during warmup until it stabilizes or take it out before I start it up?
KansasFarmTable I have had the same thing happen, the temperature overshoots on the start up. No big deal i just have to continue to cook and learn the grills tendencies. But i have absolutely loved it so far!
great question... leave the door out during initial start-up. It will always overshoot the temperature at first, no matter where you have it set. don't be alarmed by those initial temps when setting it high, as you know, it'll calm itself down.
Hey man. Great videos and recipes. I was curious if you have a preference in pellet brands 9r if you have noticed a quality difference in them as far as flavor and efficiency etc. Thanks
We cook exclusively with BBQr's Delight Wood Pellets. If you haven't tried them before, pick up a 3 pack from our website: www.atbbq.com/fuels/wood-pellets/bbqrs-delight-3-pack.html (ships for free!)
@@allthingsbbq do you ship products to Australia?
I've a question, first ... is the temperature display only in Fahrenheit?
and could you please advise if you have a video on smoking sausages on the YS 640... I couldn't find anything :(
I just bought a ys640s and the manual say you can change between F and C
I am currently cooking with a pecos (old country bbq) and the results are great but I am tired of fire management. The Pecos is thin build so has a poor heat retention. My plan is to upgrade to a better stick burner or go with the ys640s. I am very curious about the smoke flavor that these give. I don’t want to start injecting or using big rubs. So I guess my question is: can you cook a pork butt or brisket with only salt and pepper and hope to get a good smoke flavor on it with the ys640s?
Definitely! The YS640s will certainly provide plenty of smoke to generate that smoke flavor. We do have a grill accessory that adds addition smoke flavor to any grill (also great for cold smoking). Here is a link to that: www.atbbq.com/accessories/grill-accessories/smoke-boxes/a-maze-n-tube-smoker-smoke-generator.html
Thanks, great video. I am seriously considering moving from my gas grill and BGE to this grill. Would you consider this a replacement for both those grills? Also, how is the cleanup when you use the searing station for steaks, chicken, etc. I have the feeling it gets pretty messy and greasy in there.
Hello Dean! Thanks for watching. Yes, the YS640s can do anything you ask of it, and can be your only outdoor cooking equipment if that's all you wanted. It does an amazing job searing steaks, and gets to 600 degrees without blinking. The GrillGrates are the key factor in grilling/searing on a YS640s. And that's where the mess stays: in the valley's of the GrillGrates. taking a GrillGrate Brush (www.atbbq.com/accessories/grill-accessories/cleaning-supplies/grillgrate-grate-brush-cleaning-tool.html) to them every other time or so is a good way to keep them clean. And then once or twice a year, you'll want to pull everything out of the main chamber of the cooker and do a general clean-up, but don't go crazy with that.
@@allthingsbbq Would you get this over the Kamado Joe? Love your videos by the way. Thanks Scott
@@scottfleming483 Thanks for the question. I think it would determine how you like to cook and what flavor profile you prefer. If you love charcoal grills and the flavor you get from that, its hard to beat a Kamado Joe. If you are looking for ease of use, less monitoring of the fire with great smoke flavor, the YS640s is great fit. Plus with the built in Fireboard controller, you can monitor and adjust your YS640s from anywhere. You can cook all the same things on both grills, your setup and monitoring times will most likely be a little more time consuming with the Kamado Joe. I hope that helps. Feel free to contact the store if you would like to talk to a sales associate for further details: 316.440.3950
or you can email them: support@atbbq.com
Does the S model still just kick the fan on but not feed pellets or ignite like the older model when first turned on?
Yes. It still has that functionality.
Can some of the upgrades from the 640S able to bolt on to the original 640 ?
Yes! Look for that to be released in just over a month - we're thinking the beginning of Oct. Stay connected to our newsletters and social media posts for when it's ready to purchase & ship.
Many of your recipe videos you mention that you are using a blend of Cheery and Pecan pellets. Is this just a 50/50 blend?
Yes.
So when doing direct grilling and all of the juices and drippings drop on to the burn pot and all around the bottom of the smoker how much work goes into cleaning that out? With the drop tray removed or using the one with the hole in it, wouldn't everything go to the bottom of the smoker and mix with all the ash making a gooey mess that I can't just vacuum out now? Is there a cleaning video out there for this? Or maybe I'm missing something...
Solid question. I too would like some input on this.
Waiting for the answer to this as well , this is a deal breaker for me
As you thought yes some of the grease goes to the bottom and of course you do have to clean it out if you're direct grilling but from my experience there's very little directly into burn box......this is by far the best pellet grill/smoker for me no doubt about it
Hi Nick - thanks for watching! When the diffuser is out (or the door to the 2pc diffuser is out), your GrillGrates are in, directly over the flame. The GrillGrates will capture the majority of the grease drippings. You'll want to purchase the GrillGrate brush if you're using GrillGrates: www.atbbq.com/accessories/grill-accessories/cleaning-supplies/grillgrate-grate-brush-cleaning-tool.html. Cleanup is nothing to be concerned about or something to keep you from buying a Yoder. You'll vacuum out the ashes in the firebox on a semi-regular basis, so that's a good time to suck-up any other solids that you find hanging out at the bottom of the cooker. I'd recommend buying a small shop-vac that is entirely dedicated to your Yoder.
Will there be an upgrade kit for the original ys640 for the new control board/screen ?
Yes, coming soon.
Look for that to be released in just over a month - we're thinking the beginning of Oct. Stay connected to our newsletters and social media posts for when it's ready to purchase & ship.
So painful to watch late at night. Especially because We have self quarantined our family for a month with little need for outside food/supplies. Now I'm need of: steak, peppers, ribs, pork, asparagus and a YS640!
I just put a down payment for mines. I'm eagerly waiting to get the call to pick mines up!!!!
Chef Tom - have you ever tried using a small water pan in the 640? Curious if you think it would be beneficial at all. Thanks.
Although this is something one does in certain smokers, adding a water pan to a Pellet Smoker is not a good idea. It will end up creating a steamy environment, and undoing the hard work of creating a nice bark on your smoked meats. Pellets already have a high humidity content, so the cooking chamber will naturally maintain the proper moisture level for smoking. And this is particularly true of a Yoder.
@@allthingsbbq thanks for the reply
Can you upgrade the order model with the new control panel?
Yes, you'll be able to do that soon. Look for that to be released in just over a month - we're thinking the beginning of Oct. Stay connected to our newsletters and social media posts for when it's ready to purchase & ship.
Wow what a revolutionary 🙄
The only concern is clean up when grilling. Where does all the grease go when deflector shield is removed. Does fall into igniter etc..?
Jeff Neilson I’ve been wondering that same thing... it’s the one thing keeping me from getting the grill grates.
I just bought a 480s and the grill is incredible as chef Tom has shown!! I also purchased the 2 part diffuser plates which allows for grilling by removing a trap door directly over the firebox. Cleanup has not been bad at all. The grease that does not evaporate from the fire will run to the drip bucket as it normally does. But I went a extra step and foiled the bottom of the floor of the grill and it would catch anything else that slipped by. Best grill/smoker I’ve ever owned by far!!! The FireBoard is amazing!! Hope this helps cause before I purchased mine I was wondering the same thing.
Jeff, when the diffuser is out (or the door to the 2pc diffuser is out), your GrillGrates are in, directly over the flame. The GrillGrates will capture the majority of the grease drippings. You'll want to purchase the GrillGrate brush if you're using GrillGrates: www.atbbq.com/accessories/grill-accessories/cleaning-supplies/grillgrate-grate-brush-cleaning-tool.html. Cleanup is nothing to be concerned about or something to keep you from buying a Yoder. thanks for watching!
I know someone has asked this does it really get a good smoke taste? I have eaten some BBQ from a friends grill not saying the name really didn't have a good smoke taste!
how many cups of coffee did Chef T have before this video shooting, talk about enthusiasm!
Where did you get that wrapping paper??
Here is the butcher paper used in the video:
www.atbbq.com/accessories/grill-accessories/all-things-barbecue-pink-butcher-paper.html
Thanks for watching!
maybe its the filming angle, but it always looks a bit crowded when you do a direct flame grill on these - is that fair or no?
It does look crowded because it appears the direct grilling is about 30% of the grill surface area. Only the area directly over the firebox.
Its most common to put the GrillGrates over the firebox side of the YS640s - 3 panels fill-up 50% of the cooking space. Some folks elect to fill-up the entire cooking space, which would be 6, 19.5" GrillGrate panels. I would say most people find that 3 panels are more than enough. With the damper pulled all the way out, you'll still get that high heat convection air moving towards the smoke stack, helping to cook whatever is on the right side of the grill. Keep in mind that when you remove the heat diffuser, the left-hand side of the grill will be unavoidably hotter than the right, but just use that to your advantage.
Which brand/flavor pellets do you prefer?
We've used BBQr's Delight pellets for many years - www.atbbq.com/fuels/wood-pellets/bbqrs-delight-4-pack.html. Depending on the cook we use the Contest Mix or one of the hardwood pellets, favoring pecan and hickory.
I have cooked on many different types of smokers and by far Yoder is the one I go to when I want to impress. The green egg is great for holding temperature And my offset and weber smoky mountain perform amazingly as well. But when I need reliability and consistency Yoder delivers. Grilled some carnet Assad her and jalapeño poppers over the open flame along with some chicken in the sea remarks is in credible. Yoder is the gold standard in my opinion for versatility
Sounds yummy! Keep on cookin'!
I am just waiting for mine to show up at my new local dealer!!
Enjoy-- hope you get cookin' soon!
Chef, any word from yoder on a upgrade board for the standard 640
Look for that to be released in just over a month - we're thinking the beginning of Oct. Stay connected to our newsletters and social media posts for when it's ready to purchase & ship.
Do the wifi features only work on the user's local wifi, or does it allow the user to step away and use the app on their phone over the internet, say while out on the lake?
Scott,
We just got my husband's new Yoder YS640s this past weekend & played with the grill & Fireboard.
What we found are these:
1: Only one phone can "install" the
app at a time to create an
account. I had to wait until my
husband completed creating
the acct. before I could install
it on mine.
2: It is locked into your household
Wifi. Have the Serial# ready of
your Yoder & ID# when
creating your account.
3: When connecting the
Fireboard to your Bluetooth
only ONE phone can connect
at a time! For ex: I couldn't
connect to monitor the
cooking at the same time that
my husband was logged on.
BUMMER! He had to logg
off before I could connect.
I wish that Fireboard would allow more than one person, on the same account, to log on. My husband went to HD to run an errand, and of course, was logged off. That's fine because he was out of range from our network. But, at the same time, I could have already been on the Bluetooth while he was at home, instead of waiting until he was out of range.
Fireboard should adapt this app more.
Btw, we're in our mid 60s & pretty tech savvy.
This shouldn't keep you from considering & buying a Yoder YS640s. Only 1 grilling experience & we LOVED❤ IT!!
@@txlatinchicka5138 sounds like you were using Bluetooth rather than wifi. I have a Fireboard now for my drum smoker. The Fireboard connects to my wifi, and I can view what's happening from my cell phone anywhere my cell phone has service.
@@scottellingboe8472,
Bluetooth alone would not
Have connected. We were on Wifi.
@@txlatinchicka5138 Hmm, not sure what to tell you. Like I said, I connected mine to my home wifi, and then with the app on my phone, I was able to monitor my temps from anywhere.
Is the 480 big enough for big full packers?
Yep!
What pellets did you use on this?
BBQr's Delight: www.atbbq.com/fuels.html?cat=48
What’s the cleanup like?
I just did 8 chicken thighs on my Yoder 640. I removed the diffuser plate and used my Grill Grates over the open flame. The cleanup was very easy as almost all of the grease stayed on the Grill Grates.
Richard is right, the clean-up is nothing to be worried about - its no different than any other piece of outdoor cooking equipment: the better you are to it, the better it will be to you. If you're using the GrillGrates, their brush is must have: www.atbbq.com/accessories/grill-accessories/cleaning-supplies/grillgrate-grate-brush-cleaning-tool.html. The main thing to consider on a regular basis is to vacuum out the firebox. Other than that, just keep normal cleaning routines.
I have a GMG, but I've decided that I want one of these. Bad.
I would buy it, but you do not ship to Europe :(.
ATBBQ isn't permitted to ship outside of the US. But Yoder Smokers has worldwide retailers, and is able to ship directly to you as well. Go visit them at www.yodersmokers.com or send them an email at info@yodersmokers.com.
Bad. ASS!
I love the videos & recipes. I’d really love to have this grill. Especially with the newer upgrades! My only issue, especially with the price increases is the rust issues. Every Yoder owner I’ve talked to, says they love the grill but the finish issues are what really bugs them! Fix that, & I’m a customer. When a grill comes with touch up paint. That’s not for me. Such a nice grill besides that.
4wolverines
And I thought that I was the only one that felt that way it’s a nice piece of equipment but I’m not going to pay that kind of money and have it sitting outside rusted in six months
Depends on where you live. I'm in Albuquerque and have had zero rust in 1-1/2 years of ownership.
In AZ you won’t get a bit of rust.
So I believe it’s 100% climate dependent.
Thanks for watching and commenting. Climate can certainly play a role in this, and over the past 10+ years there have been some issues that Yoder has quickly dealt with when a response was necessary. But by and large, keeping the cooker cleaned (free of food particles, salts & acids) around the lid of the smoker will work wonders at keep rust from developing. Its when those deposits are left on the paint indefinitely that surface rust begins to develop. This is why touch-up paint is sent. Most people probably never even use it.
Was going to get a TRAEGER until I seen this!!!!
As someone who has owned both, that's a wise decision :)
@@RumandCook I preciate your response that made it even more easier to buy this
@@ericchatman7220 no problem, happy to help!
Still have not integrated the pull out door in the heat deflector? Also the paint really is the biggest disappointment to this unit. Encourages rust and deterioration. Peals off when in contact with marinades. And really hinders clean up.
Hi Matt - thanks for watching. The 2pc Heat Diffuser is still considered an accessory - it's a nice convenience, but not a requirement. I know there's some chatter out there about the paint, but in my experience, it's largely a non-issue. A little bit of cleaning of the salt/acid/food deposits around the lid will go along way.
are there any pellet smokers that are truly offset? meaning the firepot is on the side and the heat is getting sucked into the coking chamber? almost all pellet grills that have the firepot below and they inevitably cook a lot hotter from underneath, so with things like briskets that sit for a long time even on a top rack they dry out on the bottom and become jerky like if you're not constantly moving them around before building a nice bark, because the diffuser plates underneath the lower rack are radiating heat at a far higher temperature as opposed to the more even delicate heat you get with true offset that cooks far more evenly gently and allows for bark that is more consistent through out the whole brisket or rib for that matter.
the hot plate effect basically renders the bottom shelf useless in most cases for low and slow bbq. just a thought but i've paid thousands for the best pellet smokers and still have yet to understand why no one is doing true offset or if its possible? i dont care about grilling a steak or getting high temps personally. any cheap grill can get do that. i'm not really looking to bbq hot dogs and burgers for friends on a 3-4000$ pellet grill, i'm looking to throw down 8-10 stacks of ribs or two briskets that are all cooked the same regardless of what level shelf they have been on. i would be fine with a pellet smoker that maxes out at 300-325f if it meant delicate low and low evenly spread out heat.
I just got one of these from you and I can't get it hooked up to my phone or tables, not happy here. I talked to the guy at fireboard several times I guess he has come to the conclusion that the board is not hooked up to the antenna, he wants me to take the box apart. I'm not doing that it under warranty somebody else that knows what they are doing should do that. Not very happy at the moment
Really sorry to hear this. Before you start taking apart the board, let’s get you connected to Yoder Smokers technical support team. Please email them at customerservice@yodersmokers.com. I assure you they will get this resolved right away.
Ok I'll give it a try
One single function of that grill would keep me from buying it, the ability to turn on remotely. Not comparing the two, but my RECTEC has this ability and I use it constantly. Many times I pull stuff out of my freezer before I go to work, put it on my smoker and turn it on around 10:00am for something to be ready before I get home. (Mostly pork butts). Still so far, my perfect smoker/grill would be the new YS640 and patch in a RECTEC controller to control it.
This function is possible but was slashed from the program. Yoder didn't want someone to forget their cover was on and come home to a fire on their patio.
no night light knobs. bummer.
Another compensated review.
This is not a unbiased review. It is obviously a paid commercial. Not saying that the grill isn’t bad just keep in mind it is no more than a commercial
Throws wallet at screen
Love Yoder but unless they have fixed the paint situation my current Yoder will be my last.
I was pretty disappointed when my paint was chipping right after I took the barbecue out of the box. When I went back to where I bought it he said oh just go to Home Depot and buy some high temp paint and paint it again! Sad.
Same here, I really wanted to buy a Yoder but because of the paint issues I went with a Mak instead. At this point their just being hard headed. Fix it already.
So..... no real improvements at all. I can buy a temp probe for less than $50 Same size cooking chamber and everything. Good job fuckers. I'll buy the cheaper option. Thanks but no thanks.
Pellets can't really be considered bbqing though.