Thabo Mdluli is joined by Joshua Maponga and Dr Shimmy Kotu

[@boitumeloditsheho6649]

What makes Maponga know how to argue better is the fact that he has experienced both sides.

[@geofreymudaka3488]

That's true 😂😂😂😂

[@katlegogladwin8384]

The last segment of this discussion clearly demonstrates how comfortable Dr Shimmy is in his Eurocentric mindset. He clearly holds western ideology higher than indigenous african systems. this emphasizes the domineering effects of colonization.

[@bishopjoshuamanponga7093]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you........

[@primorantso7128]

Wowza...
The foundation of Dr Shimmy's attack is the tip of Bishop Marara's defense, meaning; Bishop Marara can and does admit and acknowledge better than or equal to reasoning because he mentions before any response so that you dont miss what he is defending or attacking, whereas Dr Shimmy on the other hand, shifts the focus with a " no no no please listen" or "you are disturbing me from my point" before and after and statement or response.
If this was a battle, Marara would the Zulu Kingdom under King Shaka's rule using their "Nguni Horn" strategy of attack and defense to deceive, suprise and surround the opposition and Dr Shimmy would be the British with their guns and canons and just shooting whats in front of them because they can.
Indigenous vs Foreign will always be a case of whether one is foreign to whats indigenous to others meaning we are all indigenous and foreign to something in life. Like one who 'prefers' one language and refuse to even recognizing another language as language but as a 'convenience'.

[@katlegosebopela1717]

Exactly! How can a man (a very intellectual man so to say) be so comfortable with the dispossession of his ancestry, spirituality and identity.

[@Tbangled]

Shimmy kotu's argument is on freedom on our Constitution. But a so called spirituallist Maponga wants to be regulated by a tarnished State.

[@zenzifortune1234]

Joshua maponga is also not an a typical african representative

[@mandisamlambo5664]

Mr Maponga's factual capacity is unmatched, we need more leaders like him in our lifetime. ✊🏽🖤

[@tokollosimeone5210]

Big Facts!!!

[@thapelolekene8831]

Joshua is a beast, Morena Maponga knows his story and he unpacks the facts, supplements and defend them with founding principles. Maponga is our future.

[@matthewslekgeu1787]

That's where many have missed it. Fact is not truth.

[@tokollosimeone5210]

@@matthewslekgeu1787 fact is not truth? What? 😯

[@tokelolove7234]

@@tokollosimeone5210 Yes Scientific facts say the life on earth came from Evolution and the earth formed as a result of the Big Bang theory. If you believe in the God of creation, then that would be deemed as completely false. So therefore Fact doesn't equal truth in that sense.

[@ayandanoxolo]

Maponga said Africans are debating missionary and mercenary structures....woo I felt that

[@allan2827]

i felt it when he said Religion and Government are in a good relationship because their boss is a colonial master

[@oarabileditire786]

But It didn't help the debate, yha it had the same effect of inducing my Pan African spirit into a chant dance. But it didn't have any other effect of sway. It's like Doctor Khumalo dribbling by mounting a ball. " ka go palama ball mogodimo"

[@serogolemogole2685]

Semantic gymnastics, the statement contributed nothing to the substance of the debate

[@maqhawedlamini8679]

@@allan2827 lol government and religion are for us thus suffering the same fate

[@nhlaposbu]

Pointless bomvastics. Rhats why he says the context of Christianity as it is practiced NOOOOW.
COZ HE KNOW CHRISTIANITY HAS ENCIENT HISTORY IN AFRICA.
He knows that very well and uses words to dodge the bullet.

[@vuks62]

I appreciate and salute Dr Shimmy Kotu for your sound knowledge and understanding of the true gospel, your understanding of God vs other religion that compose the so called interfaith and those who played on the gallery to propel such garbage. We confuse people with all these gimmicks in churches because of the pressure to perform, and these religious titles makes us believe we know better. Reality is that most churches God is no there hence all these stunts, now the church is to blame hence these regulations but we don't do justice when we mix religion , customs and traditions to bolster why churches has to be regulated.

[@michaelmangaye7347]

no his more European than being an african

[@tjngema8410]

😂😂😂

[@LindaSomtala]

Absolutely, he's very sober minded with facts

[@MoketeRAKOTSOANA]

​@@LindaSomtala, is it really a fact about that he's talking about cutting/incision!?!? His grandparents or yours may have practised these incisions through circumcisions or Xhosa's cultural acceptance of makoti (traditional customs) or even many more clan identification of such, not to mention even African Healers that did them way even before these laws or the dawn of these morden churches, did they die or somehow become ill or diseased!!?
Call me biased if you like, but I'm confused of his comparison of a backyard garden that is used for direct consumption to the feeding or giving of substance at church for religious reason - I mean if a household consume food from its garden and get sick from it, it remains it's responsibility to care to it's health status unlike when you bring it to the community for some religious demonstration!! The same goes with the glass of water of which is known if and when something goes wrong with the consumption of that water that is provided by government on behalf of the community, the government shall have to take responsibility for because it had to take some precautionary measures for it's safety and cleanliness as it provvides it for the community.
Lastly, from where I'm standing I understand Mr. Maponga attempting to address the issue of African Healers or Nyangas having such responsibility and as thus licensed or permitted to easily identify the point or person liable if and when something goes wrong as opposed to the bias that law should enforce on others because they're traditional or African and not on those demonstrating or serving Christian God!!!!

[@TheDialogue23]

Im growing to love these gentlemen.. Mamponga my hero

[@ladypatraomuhito7899]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you........

[@lungasiyoko3095]

I respect your comment ✊

[@samuelmnisi327]

Bishop Maponga J is enlightened and needs to share his light with Africans so tht we can feel free and not be told tht we r free by some document.

[@dr.nakazwenamwiingam-beenz3482]

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[@bishopmaphongajoshua9975]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you.......................

[@saimaiita2019]

I salute Maponga J, he is a son of African kings,he know his home,he don't wanna loose his identity, e must follow

[@sanelelowe3822]

Let's be relevant. He lost the debate.

[@bayi_hbs7896]

@@sanelelowe3822 True.

[@vusumzikondlo6869]

@@sanelelowe3822 true

[@ntokozomofokeng1355]

Maponga lost it here.

[@watulukamedia6724]

@@sanelelowe3822
How?

[@sharingfamspace3156]

Those with ears will listen maponga👌🏽so much respect

[@bishopjoshuamaponga6894]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you........

[@cribby_sa]

i wonder why they keep on making him talk with ppl with believes because a believe is the absence of knowing , and it is ok not to acknowledge Ancestors BUT it only means you don't know self , i don't know why ppl don't get the this South African law is made to fuck everyone up , it goes back to protect ppl who took the land and still have power over everything, imagine criminals taking ur shit and putting laws in place so u don't take ur land back. kore im just thinking ppl are so educated with education can is not indigenous to Africa and they are so proud, they have masters and honors yet no power and all this religion is blinding them from the truth, i have lost faith in ppl in the south long time ago its like they dont see what is going on here ai shame ke sono.

[@zothilezwane7723]

Wow! The topic was well unpacked, Bishop Maponga has deep truthful facts! Africans must really wake up cos you can't get such knowledge while you're asleep...

[@bishopjoshuamaponga6894]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you.....................

[@alephtomega6348]

It looks well when he speaks he is against the church and he is against the CREATER of all who we look up on, it's shame for someone who is blind to see what is going on in spiritual realm, Dr is not here to colonize us back heis here in truth, and the truth shall set you free brother one thing to do to you while I'm alive in this world is to tell u JESUS CHRIST IS THE TRUTH whether you believe it or not you will see when you live your body or flesh

[@andilekhumalo7658]

​​@@alephtomega6348 You haven't find the truth yet and you ain't free. Watch videos where Mr Mampong talk about the creator that's where the truth begin.

[@mbulwa42556]

Mr Maponga's wisdom is out of this world. He understands his subject.

[@zenzifortune1234]

he's very manipulative and stubborn

[@TheCSIguy]

He's the goat, and he studied theology posed by Westerns and still rose above that and found his truth and that is awesome.

[@candy4087]

​@@zenzifortune1234nah you described the other guy

[@victorthabisotsasanyane9944]

Wise in English 😅 and wrong things.

[@kizalin]

​@@zenzifortune1234🤣if you hate him just say that

[@ndumisomajola8043]

I always learn something new when listening to Maponga, his intellectuality is on another level.

[@thandomvimbi1558]

@@ladypatraomuhito7899 you lying wena, you not Bishop Joshua Maponga, the man doesn't do these lying miracle workers

[@NisherPuFx]

@@thandomvimbi1558 re-read his comment and you will see that the guy didn't said anything about miracle. You are speaking your own mind and thats foolish

[@thomasmaropola9201]

Maponga just butchered Shimmy🤦🏽‍♂️ Shimmy is so emotional yerr

[@SenhorMsandiFelipe]

Maponga trying to free us from colonialist religions, Pro lumumba saving us from colonialists economic trap. We are so lost majority of blacks with discard their efforts because we're a mango in a mango tree calling ourselves oranges

[@afrokhaya5731]

We need to follow our Africans tribe to be successful, let’s stick to our culture 🇿🇼🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇼🇿🇼...

[@juniormasasu9615]

See this is reason why preach talk to much to prove the point but don’t know shit

[@gaxaza]

Speak for yourself bro

[@gontserichli7583]

True, start by throwing away that phone , you do know who invented it right

[@bishopmaphongajoshua9975]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you.................

[@cozy-k7070]

Yes 🥰 African culture is wonderful

[@phuloy3353]

Two good advocates of opinion🇿🇦. I have enjoyed the debate on the extremes of religion with its sacred practices verses the state. I am grateful for the fruitful deliberations by Dr Kotu for his articulations on Christianity and also appreciate the insight shared by Mr Maponga--these two guys deserve a 3hr talk.

[@bishopmaphongajoshua9975]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you..................................

[@evodiamafisa6796]

WARNING!! should you decide to challenge Maponga, make sure u got your facts straight

[@mongezidladla1341]

MAMPONGA is an educated man a true african man

[@chakamoseamo3107]

Maphonga is failing to understand shimmy and he wanna bring his points like a kid. This Joshua is very shallow I'm telling u. Till today he's running away from me.

[@evodiamafisa6796]

@@chakamoseamo3107 why would he run away from you? Unless like shimmy, your European master has perfected brain washing y'all and everything that is contradictory to what they taught you is considered to be shallow, by you.

[@siqalontshuntshe6227]

he aint that at all

[@evodiamafisa6796]

@@siqalontshuntshe6227 who ain't what?

[@tahyutirnyuy6674]

Joshua Maponga your are truly African love you. You need to re-educate our People.

[@skhumbuzodeepmwandla5922]

T E we really need him

[@bayi_hbs7896]

Maybe you need him with your captured dependent minds. Please leave some of us out... somblief.

[@gaxaza]

This Maponga guy is a devil's advocate. He failed as a Bishop and now he wants to deceive people by preaching his spirituality nonsense. The is only one God who created the universe 🌌 and everything in it

[@bishopmaphongajoshua9975]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you...................

[@chris243]

@@gaxaza Maybe you can try to respond more respectfully, no one is fighting you.

[@glomukbusiness]

I have always admired bishop maponga arguments and I believe we need such a ministry in African church. On this one to be fair he got an equal match.

[@jonathankekana4956]

Josh and Kotu made my day. We need more conversations like these

[@bishopjoshuamanponga7093]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you......................

[@boazbanda8926]

Joshua Maponga is a Gift to African Continent full of wisdom for Awakening message of African People , Live more years Sir

[@aviwesingama3106]

The first time I see J Maponga's argument challenged some what adequately. Both man say a lot of truth. Love Mr Maponga.

[@ladypatraomuhito7899]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you........

[@russelshambaba4433]

True, I feel the debate of the other guy

[@tsekemahlatji5765]

Dr Shimmy all day everyday. Great watching these two tackle each other's view.

[@donaldsehlako677]

Dr Shimmy Kotu you are very wise sir. Wow wow wow. Maponga is so reasoning out of context. Thank you Dr for defending Faith(unseen) with Logic(sight) so that these people who are not in Faith can understand. Your argument was very powerful.. Indeed God gives wisdom to those that fear and recognise him👏👏👏

[@tjngema8410]

😂

[@fikilezikhali2222]

You two are fun to watch.Two strong African minds.African Intellectuals.

[@saramoyo4807]

Much respect to Mr Maponga! Really knowledgeable

[@ladypatraomuhito7899]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you........

[@salummkenga2721]

Debate is so touching and educative..concepts of Eurocentric, missionaries and mercenaries blow my mind...we Africans need to dig deep on colonial project for us to understand their motives before criticise our African indigenous knowledge.. big up to Pastor Maponga..👍

[@bishopjoshuamaponga6894]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you.....................

[@mohalemotswalo9518]

this dr is well trained 2 defend sutupidity,how can he compare grass with home grown vegatable ?

[@skhumbuzomakhosonke4133]

Mohale Motswalo LoL

[@justicesilvershongwe3016]

Well trained to defend stupidity, well said Mohale.

[@aubreymaine1796]

Mohale...Loooooool,,,"sutupidity"

[@hendrikshaanika157]

Dr is an epitome of education without common sense.

[@taonamananga2335]

This maponga is stupid you are right. And he is raising his voice talking stupid things

[@manthodiramokgatla9939]

Maponga is a very intelligent and put facts across while the plaster is just emotional.

[@ladypatraomuhito7899]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you........

[@nhlaposbu]

Lol Maphonga is very manipulative.
He knows ancient Africa has early Christian origins outside of Europe

[@andilembolekwa3992]

,

[@tshioma]

Everytime I come back to this video Dr Shimmy Kotu's argument keeps getting better

[@tjngema8410]

😂

[@omerahmed6878]

God bless 🙏 you Maponga J to continue giving us ideas about our African.

[@Lerato86]

Thanks Doc, you expose what they don't wanna hear about African Religion.

[@vincentntokozo9779]

Which is?😕

[@vusumzikondlo6869]

@@vincentntokozo9779 I'm African and I believe in African Spirituality. The Dr. has vaid points if we listen without the intention to protect our belief system

[@bishopmaphongajoshua9975]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you...................

[@alexiomuzinde1688]

Above all, I like Maponga's ENGLISH

[@mphakamsenizungu6343]

That was a heavy comebacks when Maponga defined freedom 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽

[@nothandomthimkhulu2321]

I love how Mr Maponga looks at the doctor blankly it's as if he is in disbelief of his ignorance

[@ladypatraomuhito7899]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you........

[@tendanipelaelo6293]

@@ladypatraomuhito7899 Nonsense from Nigeria. Biggest crook of the century

[@SongezoMcapukisi]

Dr. Shimmy Kuti is intellectually correct to contextualize the need to balance all religions. You can't have a situation where church or christianity is singled out with a different scale. The others are not questioned.

[@ladypatraomuhito7899]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you.........,...........

[@kwadwoboakye8990]

What is religion? Where from religion?
Lemme tell u bro, the church is religion and religion is From the church

[@serogolemogole2685]

Exactly, the double standards are glaring

[@tendanipelaelo6293]

@@ladypatraomuhito7899 Crook from Nigeria 🇳🇬 stop this nonsense

[@mikeigori2983]

Others are offshoots from pagan christianity.No different.

[@quintongalane5960]

#DrShimmyKotu, Thank you for standing up for Christianity. & Educating Christians

[@bishopjoshuamanponga7093]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you..........................

[@reggaepierce1873]

Dam so yall black anglo saxons now to, whites wash yall brain more than the american blacks, you will never be saved, remeber you are calln on another mans go and dont kno the whiteman tricks which to conquer the world in the name of christianity and watch the future of this planet following behind them, god dont live in a book, which 1 would you take the bible or food and water, which one really gonna sustain, so where contained at in natur

[@HaPhororoYouthRetreatCentre]

Mr Maponga is a Genius ❤ his wisdom is extraordinary!!!

[@EichelTrocon]

This Pastor is smart, ❤ may Jesus Christ bless him

[@thenjiwegoqwana4733]

Our real African king, bishop Maponga I like your teaching.👏

[@Nyamhazha]

Va Maponga, U were right on point, right thru the discussion Brov.

[@jjimgos5096]

Hes uriseisei hama

[@Nyamhazha]

@@jjimgos5096.
Ndino simba hangu, thanx JJ.
Ko imwi ne Mhuri, muri sei sei?

[@slicusdadon]

@@Nyamhazha Ataurigwa Chikaranga akapinda chando.

[@Nyamhazha]

@@slicusdadon.
Heheheheh. A vhunduka ka? 🤣

[@fungaimabuda3377]

@@slicusdadon kkk

[@vuyanividongabisa9726]

I've listened to bishop Joshua talks during his Metamorphosis process. He is a good teacher, I must say. The only challenge he's having is that he's been at a place where faith in God was limited and channeled to be in a certain way. As far as I can remember, most of the people whe was serving before the transformation never believed in supernaturals, which is something that led him to be where he is.
Whether Jesus the Christ be white or black is not an issue here, the challenge is how does one know him?
Is the knowledge in the power of resurrection.
We need good teachers like him to unlock the nuggets of the gospel and help people to live outside the Bible.
What is to live outside of the Bible?
To live a life expected by God from us as his children.
Satan must be there in every language, we might be ignorant of what he is in our different languages the same as Mwari, Thixo, Modimo, Nkulunkulu etc is there.
Jesus is the personification of Mwari, Thixo etc. He created a body for himself to come live the life expected of us to live. He came to demonstrate to us what we must be.

[@bishopjoshuamaponga6894]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you.....................

[@bishopmaphongajoshua9975]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you.....................

[@vuyanividongabisa9726]

@@bishopmaphongajoshua9975 how is the number you've sent me going to help me? I don't just give money to anyone bishop.
I spoke to different ministers of the gospel who told me what you're telling me now and more.
They've send me to other people who were said that they're going to help me with what was said about me.
The only challenge that I had was that these people wanted expensive sacrifices which I cannot say here.
The kind of faith or belief that you are now promoting leaves me with questions that I have no answers for. .
Let us look up to Jesus and live sir.
I was told all sort of things through my entire life from when I was only 12 till today, but none of those things helped me.
I will be going to the Easter services believing that God will bring the perfect solution.

[@TheAfroGoddess]

This Dr. Shimmy believes he is making sense when he speaks - the way he smiles after making an empty statement says it all 🤷🏾‍♀️ #ignoranceIsBliss

[@sanelelowe3822]

He who angers you, controls you,and he who controls you is much stronger than you. Listen to the debate again. Check who has,substance, dominance, and more relevant. You will understand why Maponga got emotional. He is smart enough to realize it when he is losing in public. The Dr on the other hand was calm because he could also see that he was winning and in control .

[@bonoloratshivhadela2720]

I couldn't have said it better myself. Wisdom is not for everyone

[@nhlanhlamabaso5087]

@@sanelelowe3822 Lol, don't say he won the debate. Just say you agree with him. He is a neo-liberal who thinks the constitution cannot be questioned and he really sounds stupid by trying to accomodate white anarchy.

[@seektruth5750]

sanele lowe absolutely not

[@maphidzhethejesusnationpro5855]

We know how Maponga wins battles he is a great thinker guys... But on Kotu he has lost not once but twice that's why you hear him always saying I wanna challenge Kotu on this one... Take note Dr Kotu has remained in defense for Christians not to be closed and religious practices AND LOST NONE in Parliament... Including winning the moving Lockdown level 3 of churches. He is just too difficult to beat😷😷😷

[@sydneynaninyambi1127]

We ended up missing the point of argument because of the Dr constantly interjecting Bishop Maponga, this was not about Grandstanding but to discuss the regulation of Religion. This is meant to control the number of bogus churches, there is no control over churches where I can just buy a tent and chairs and start my own I won't have to register anywhere which is a problem at hand.
The history of Christianity has always worked against us as the missionaries used it to colonize us, archbishop Desmond tutu said " when the missionaries came we had the land and the they had the bible, they told us to close our eyes and pray which when we opened they had the land and we had the bible" we can defend it as much as we like but it was and still is used as a tool to control us. We excuse the Dr we understand his type who thinks our African customs are demonic.

[@dudunkosi2451]

Well said sir.

[@bishopmaphongajoshua9975]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you...................

[@mbalicele0]

Maponga All the way .A profound analysis from my black pragmatic man 👏🏾. Maponga is always calm ceasing all religions debates to win . 😍🤍

[@adroitmczephyr]

Joshua Mapongo
I respect you Sir ... I'm following your page

[@p.k.2220]

Dr is empty spiritual he just opened his mouth and spoke whatever. He does look like he had a bhabhalazi.. Salute to Mr Mapo Maponga full of wisdom.

[@bishopjoshuamanponga7093]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you..........................

[@mkhulumandlezulungobese2715]

Empty Dr his just Empty we need intelligence DR spiritual.

[@opium42069]

I am a Doctor also and i don't agree with shimmy. Tomatoes and grass cannot be equated,he's an embarrassment to what he is

[@bayi_hbs7896]

@@opium42069 Ah ah ah. Here's another liar! Claiming he is a Dr. If you have proof , you bought it.

[@bishopmaphongajoshua9975]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you....................

[@artiephatlane6409]

Very educational topic discussion from both gentleman,we need more leaders who can decent correctly with tested spiritual material to us forward with spiritual understanding of the word of God....

[@bayi_hbs7896]

@XhoiXhoi GrandSon Are you sober?

[@bishopmaphongajoshua9975]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you....................

[@nemesis7288]

"The church and state are in a good relationship, Because their boss is the same. It's a colonial Master" Gaaaaadamn!!!

[@matsheloradimo8165]

Come on Doc, its just a handshake

[@judithmuna1068]

True that!😂😂😂😂

[@masegobokala8556]

So true

[@nyikomusisinyani9442]

So your statement is biased cause most western countries are against the church. Did you watch the Olympics? Most sponsors for new world order are western countries. The fact of the matter we have been a lawless country in many aspect. We need to start there.

[@mrboyce3065]

What I've seen on this conversation is to the other guy forgets that he is an African. We are now neglecting African practices. The only things that we follow is what is written on the paper. This was introduced by whites. Let me do an example: Some people will go to work wearing dresses, but you can't go to work worrying the Zulu traditional clothes.

[@jeannetmolopyane8986]

1

[@kagiso4277]

who said you cannot go to work wearing ibhesu? people do that on Heritage day, hence they can do so daily if they want.

[@kagiso4277]

@ShutterDe DON don't you see a problem with having a certain day(s) where you are allowed to wear your own African traditional clothes instead of the western clothing? Heritage day is more like peni peni day where kids dress up to be something they are not.

[@dr.nakazwenamwiingam-beenz3482]

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[@judithmuna1068]

@@kagiso4277 So very true ❤

[@tjngema8410]

My king, i have all the time in the world to listen to you. Thank you for teaching the nation. Keep on shining the light; we are almost there.🎉

[@makhabanemolapo56]

Mponga J, you have made more sense than dr Shimmy, Doctor shimmy you still have a long way to go, you need to be re educated

[@ladypatraomuhito7899]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you....................

[@hitlerjose4440]

Mr J. Maponga you are great man and very useful in an African set up

[@bishopjoshuamaponga6894]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you....................

[@josephgumede951]

I like baba Mapongas he's the man I believe on him

[@ladypatraomuhito7899]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you........

[@alephtomega6348]

How about I tell you he is there to deceive people and especially you

[@ferdykeyz4583]

🤣🤣🤣

[@israelmkhabela]

@@alephtomega6348 YOU SOUND LIKE A EUOROPEIN

[@israelmkhabela]

@@ferdykeyz4583 I DONT THINK THAT YOU ARE AN AFRICAN

[@Mmathapelo8910]

Dr Shimmy came here very prepared, made valid points

[@huge-future]

Wow! What a debate.
Bishop Maponga doesn't want his roots to be tempered with and he is also not happy with the constitution since it doesn't centre around his culture and belief. He doesn't want to be displaced in anyway.
Dr Shimmy doesn't have any problem with anything that cannot take away his faith in Jesus. The constitution cannot prohibit him from loving and serving his master. His happy with everything as long as his faith isn't affected.
Listening to Maponga speak I can hear crying for Africa to restored back to what he think is its origin, he feels that Africa is colonized and deserves to be freed from colonialism. It sounds doable, but how is planning to change these individuals that have okayed this colonialism long ago and aren't having any problem with it.
Well all the best Maponga, I hope what happened to Noah doesn't repeat itself on your journey to restoring Africa.

[@bishopjoshuamaponga6894]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you.....................

[@mmalegodijafta8703]

Dr Shimmy doesn't have reasoning capacity 😃

[@bayi_hbs7896]

Behind African thinking. It's a shame... even in 2020!!

[@thapelobaloyi3171]

Lol that's.Christianity really make people dumb,but to extend some things make sense.Its just that he is out of context mostly.

[@uMsubathi]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@thekingmangumta6353]

Besides lack of reasoning capability I think he took a sip before the interview

[@bishopmaphongajoshua9975]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you.....................

[@masibulelez]

The argument about interfaith is invalid. Dr Shimmy makes a power argument

[@ladypatraomuhito7899]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you.....................

[@siviweslara1023]

We may want to lean towards Bishop Joshua's arguments here because we are African and he seems to promote africanicity (whatever that is these days), but there is truth in what Dr Shimmy Koti is saying lots of truth.

[@ZoeOnLife]

All I am thinking is, "Joshua FINISH HIM! SHORYUKEN!"

[@stephenhlongwane2835]

Finish him Joshua Maponga

[@bishopmaphongajoshua9975]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you.......................

[@dicspanner8738]

thabo. i like your questioning. Tomatoes in your backyard is an off topic Doc.

[@tebogokolare4392]

Thumbs up to Dr Shimmy Kotu.....truly Africans should take leverage from other foreign systems. It's working for Asian and Arab nations while at the same time not forgoing their own systems

[@lavotosibongiseni2985]

Next time give em equal time, there's a lot we missed from J Maponga, he knows his story...by the way
J Maponga 6 - 0 Dr shimmy

[@xolanihadebe547]

I think Shimmy won

[@bayi_hbs7896]

Ah ah ah maponga kept on interjecting when the honourable Dr was trying to put his points through. He was losing
the debate so he used his not so clever antics. Maponga had enough time to say absolutely nothing.

[@sphumelelesijadu]

Lol I agree that Maponga needed more time but your score is off bro.

[@vusumzikondlo6869]

Maponga lost. As much I'm not in the same Spiritual/religious belief as the Dr. But he has valid points which Maponga failed to counter 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@ntokozomofokeng1355]

Maponga lost it. He had no clear facts. The African spirituality thing that he is advancing it's not consistent. In one of his debates he mentioned the garden of Eden which is found in the Bible he is against.

[@1murkeybadmayn]

"Missionaries vs Mercenaries"...I'm done.

[@nondumisomlonyeni6091]

Dankie ngiyabonga

[@tselengbotlhole750]

That had me rolling on the floor 😂😂😂

[@stevenkhoza7350]

Can newzroom africa bring back this conversation please!

[@carolmk3114]

My fellow Christian get ready. Be sure that you stand on a sure foundation, not the eloquent words of men. Be vigilant. Be alert. Most of all be prayerful. The wisdom of this world and the justice of this world will not always align with our faith then we will have to stand but not only stand, but stand of a sure foundation the Word of God.

[@bishopjoshuamaponga6894]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you........

[@bishopmaphongajoshua9975]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you......................

[@nomsamdluli5342]

Yes it's really strange that someone can be so protective of the religion imposed on his ancestors, you can hear from the way he's talking about Jesus as if he's sat with him at the table. Very resistant to be awakened and you can hear that he's one of those who call our ancestors demons

[@nhlaposbu]

Ignorance

[@nhlaposbu]

He expresses himself in a language imposed by colonisers. On the other hand Chistianity in Ethopia has no European origins.

[@Vincentmawire]

Maponga u are naturally intelligent we need leaders like you

[@mathailemashiloane4689]

They need him e Zimbabwe. Not here in southafrica, he must speak his own language.

[@mohalemotswalo9518]

lm dissapointed the dr,how can he compare grass & home grown vegetables?

[@TheAfroGoddess]

He is very shallow. Lacks mental depth

[@sikitiministries1351]

I am also left behind by such comprison from so called a Dr

[@nabungela]

Saying our gardens must be regulated LOL. Any enterprise providing product/service is regulated by why should the church be excempt?

[@sanelelowe3822]

I agree. He made a blunder just there. In fact, in everything else, he made sense and had more points that Maponga.

[@xolanintuli9604]

Dr. Shimmy' comments are empty that makes me question his title

[@siphiwemokone7706]

Its sad to see someone who advocates for christanity(Shimmy Kuto) unable to shake Joshua Mapongas hand after the debate it showa arrogance and satanic behaviour.

[@keshebileonekbmorwe3163]

Thankyou!! Its pride

[@thandikamase5484]

Arrogance and stupidity

[@vuyanividongabisa9726]

Bad representation of Christianity

[@orapelengmathebula1406]

Let the man be, it is his life and he has a choice. How is Christianity attached to this? If I say "You are sounding arrogant" does that show satanic behavior?🤦🏾‍♂️🥱

[@bishopmaphongajoshua9975]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you...................

[@odeneho1748]

33 times did the Pastor said " Listen to me"
When I was young my mom told me " if say - Listen to me" severally I means lies"

[@thembelahlophe713]

I wouldn't debate with bishop Maponga he is too equiped intellectually

[@ladypatraomuhito7899]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you........

[@hosiamahlatsi3340]

😂😂😂 stop undermining yourself

[@russelmtlokwa6058]

Mr Maponga is all over the place.

[@Tbangled]

Shimmy kotu. So much intelligence. They hear him but they can't comprehend his level of argument. What people are saying about Maponga is nothing but "buying face"

[@Mutenda]

I am a strong believer of Mr Maponga.
But i never seen someone challenge him with high reasoning like that.
All Mr Maponga needed to say is yes. Lets start regulating all church and sangomas.

[@MobileCellphones5020]

Maponga outsmarts most of the time & he's very sound and eloquent........

[@cuthymaswera51]

Thank you Sir Maponga for taking that Dr Pastor to school is drunk too

[@bishopjoshuamanponga7093]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you........

[@siphetebeka]

Maponga: 33yrs I've Been Doing This.
Pastor : I've have 40yrs But You Can Continue.
.
🚶‍♂️🚶‍♂️🚶‍♂️🚶‍♂️🚶‍♂️

[@usabelo294]

What's the point?

[@abeautifulheart]

He sounded immature

[@usabelo294]

@@abeautifulheart yeah for someone who has been doing it for 4 decades, he really sounded like a child.

[@bishopmaphongajoshua9975]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you........

[@thagreatfx7570]

40 years with empty head 😅😂😅

[@njabulomasina4180]

I like Kotu's point on interfaith

[@njabulomasina4180]

@Luvo Ntamehlo True brother. There is a myriad of reasons why God called Abraham out of the world and established the house of Israel. One of them being the restoration of humanity's proper communion/worship with him. God is very particular on how he wants to be worshiped and how humanity is supposed to conduct themselves as it pertains to him. Interfaith or Ecuminism is at variance with this concept.

[@bishopmaphongajoshua9975]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you......................

[@tendanipelaelo6293]

@@bishopmaphongajoshua9975 Crook of note. Nigerian number and you call yourself Maponga? Maponga would never do that

[@andilekhumalo7658]

Mr Mampong spiting facts the white must forget about defeating Mr Mamponga i respect him for standing for the truth against the oppressor.

[@Futur3musi3kproducer]

Shout to Tshepo from Cape Town. That call should've concluded this debate

[@ladypatraomuhito7899]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you..................

[@yonwabapangeni3761]

This conversation is weird. Two extremists arguing extremes of ideologies can never go well. Emotions need to be placed aside for solutions-driven debates... if that was the intention of the conversation.

[@khwezi_bass]

Correct!

[@bishopmaphongajoshua9975]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
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[@serogolemogole2685]

Yea I hear where you're coming from my sister, but the reality of matter is that both these men, being staunch fundamentalists of their ideologies as they are, speak from 2 diametrically opposed positions on matters they feel realy strongly about, so we can't expect them to reach a middle ground of understanding that would allow them to find each other given that they're basically here to defend their faith systems, and by extension themselves and their followers. furthermore, discussion involving such emotive issues as those being discussed here invariably draws out a lot of heated emotions, it's only natural

[@jumanji7629]

That's why it's a discussion I can sense a religious yu

[@thetrendingworld6286]

Dr Shimmy has to do the least "Decolonize your mind".... otherwise big up to my Hero J.

[@dr.nakazwenamwiingam-beenz3482]

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[@bishopmaphongajoshua9975]

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and in the life of your
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of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you.....................

[@sandilezulu324]

The way Maphonga is looking at this Dr 🤣🤣

[@waronakenosi2865]

😂😂😂

[@thandi_millie4144]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@bishopmaphongajoshua9975]

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you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
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state nigeria before
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heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you........

[@silashabumugisha8723]

Mr Mamponga is wise and I appreciate his thoughts.He has to teach all Africans from different churches,who want to make money saying that Jesus loves them!

[@witnesszimsele2108]

we need our land, dignity, humanity etc Mr mapongo is doing great and hes trying by all means to awaken African.

[@bishopmaphongajoshua9975]

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in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you...................

[@manuelmnguni1969]

Maponga is warrior. Very intelligent and fearless.

[@bishopjoshuamaponga6894]

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you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you...................

[@sebastianmoafrika5177]

Maponga talks alot of air, funny people buy into it. This Dr always shows him flames

[@vusumzikondlo6869]

He showed him flames... he's logic is dope

[@themburoyalty2179]

I love tata Maponga so enlightened awakened and non conformist to white supremacy.

[@ladypatraomuhito7899]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you..................

[@eddieinnocent2808]

Dr Tshepo has points I heard him very clear .As for Maponga he has meet someone that superceeds him

[@sphamandlamkhize4396]

Dr Maphonga always on points, he knows his story, you can't defeat him,with his indigenous beliefs,of define who we are, thank you Maphonga❤❤❤❤

[@makomalepulana6422]

Both men raised valid points

[@vusumzikondlo6869]

@adumah calebnah bro. He lost.

[@vusumzikondlo6869]

@adumah caleb what is my problem mate?

[@innocentmabidi6381]

I rate this 50/50

[@womenpower5094]

"After demonstrating the power of god so what"? That's sums up everything. Thank you Maponga.

[@nompumelelombebe6501]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@mercysengu7797]

Dr Maponga and Ubaba Malema .....same whatsapp group i love these guys

[@bishopjoshuamaponga6894]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you.................

[@ndijazimbabwean8410]

Come up passed the limpompo we have a list of which herbs do what at our Zinatha offices.

[@nimrom6041]

Enlightenment knowledge debating Western education colonial mind.the Dr is drunk and high.mapongo is awake.power to the black africa.

[@HatersOfSin]

no u just hate Jesus the truth…u love sin

[@vileathacouncil886]

I agree the Dr. is colonized to the highest degree.

[@vusumzikondlo6869]

He's main point is. If we find something wrong against humanity in Church we must not turn a blind on other sectors

[@bishopmaphongajoshua9975]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you........................

[@musondaclement30]

Maponga J my favorite...God bless you for your help.

[@sikalionrwabona305]

Amazing Debate....I thought for once cups and Glasses were gonna start flying in the Air....and the Presenter would let them Bite each other for sometime then come in as a boxing match moderator....I so love this...OMG

[@bishopjoshuamanponga7093]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you........

[@thembisamakhoba7219]

Salute to Dr Shimmy he making so much sense 🙌🙌🙌✊

[@bishopjoshuamaponga6894]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you......................

[@praisetrb3021]

Dr Shimmy Is Leadership... I YES HIM Ngiya'Mvuma...💪💪

[@bishopjoshuamaponga6894]

Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
[phone]) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you........