I am humbled to have lived and evolved in Maponga's era. I was one oh the flower girls in his wedding when he wed laGoje, he buried my mother, baptised me etc. I am now a 38 year old lady and when he resurfaced with African spirituality I started questioning and wanting to know more. I've recently stopped being an adventist and learning more about African spirituality whilst learning my roots.
I’m also born&bred SDA. My dad was a mfundisi even. I’m 38 years old now… i attended Camp so i can listen to mfundisi Maponga! Haibo… I left the SDA church in 2016 and i discovered who I am. African spirituality changed my life.
I left SDA too years back. Raised by 2 church elders. My parents always spoke so badly about Mr Maphonga but I couldn’t help but want to hear him out. Only to find out I absolutely love his mind 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
I wish Mr Maponga would learn that true intelligence in conversation lies not only in speaking but also in listening. Important topics none the less, very eye opening. Thank you.
@@evelyn_rampolaYes sis..the truth is that as an African nation, we've lost our culture hence we are suffering from generational curses. We need conversations like this to be reminded of who we are. Understanding of self will give us a direction that we need to take in order break these curses that we are suffering from, and regain all the blessings we lost.
I'm cooking and doing washing at the same time now I can't go out and hang my clothes.. Guys please we need another episode with more Spiritual Conciousness Evangelists may be 2 more please... Phela Siyayphusha Lento And Iyahamba Lento💜❤️🙏Thank You Gogo Wethu
This history must be taught throughout primary and high school - across Africa. Colonizers and their surrogates will never support, let alone promote this empowering knowledge . #Enlightening #Enriching
im 20 and ever since i listened to my elder JM my perception drastically changed in a polite way , i can now perceive things as i am not as they are , much appreciated my elders, ntate chigaramboko mambokadzi
You have a point.The writing of the bible was influenced by great philosophers from the west,east and Africa(Egypt).It makes sense to make reference to it to emphasise that our African philosophy is rich and also belong with what other philosophy there is.
Oh!!! This is amazing I am so proud of you all Bantu abadala for sharing this knowledge. Baba Maponga was asked to send the message to the white.I could hear that it was not him talking that message was from the ancestors. Mlungu uzwile
Two great African minds. Haramanuba and Maponga these two men I respect a lot and don't take their words lightly. I'm from Nigeria. Bloodline Biafran of Igbo ancestry. Selam.
Thank you..!! Thank you..!! "Bishop.." Maponga.. You ARE! simply 1 of the very few.. most genuine.. NATURALLY gifted African Leaders[hips].. there are.. I have closely followed your channel for 'quite' a while.. I cannot.. will not.. compare myself with you (1-2-1).. that is absolute.. But, in my own 'little' way.. I hugely admire.. appreciate.. and indeed have been saying and preaching quite the same message.. amongst the community I belong.. You are a REAL.. VERY STRONG.. African Leader.. I hugely respect and admire you.. Good health to you and all your team at all times... ÖAÖ (OAO)
Trust me, let’s be honest, almost everyone of us, Africans at home and abroad, has been sabotage in every aspect of our lives, so it’s more than high time, for all of us, to get together, in ways beyond our imagination, in order to reevaluate ourselves, knowing that no other, can or will ever be able to do, what we must do, for the well being of black Africans globally
Thankyou so much for the inspiration and insight s. We are learning, and learning from you children of the soil of Africa makes more sense because we must all cleanse ourselves from the foreign toxic waste.
ke kgale re lapa melala rena mamptja, jwale rea leboga lehono ge le fegolotse se borala bakgalabje. Thanks to the Afrosavy team for making my wish & dream come true, I love you guys.
I am a Christian and I love the mature conversations which were done here…. This is the best ever, can’t wait for part 2/3 …the chemistry was amazing between the three. Sbonge❤
I disagree - taking turns is a purely Western phenomenon. Listen to African music and you find rhythm - but no structure. Do you realise that "African music" has rhythm but no structure? That's why it can not be duplicated!
Wish I saw this earlier Until we change the name "Africa" to describe our land and thus ourselves, we haven't started. We need a unifying language, like Swahili and a common currency. I pray we as a people unite as one and rise together. 1❤
Every African without history is obsessed with our history We have NOTHING with West or South Africa Who are you people and why are you obsessed with our ancestors the pharaohs?
Greetings &Grand rising Ubuntu family! Great to be in the presence of Grandmaster Thau Thau & King MJ & Queen sister there 🙏🙏🙏🇰🇳🇰🇳 Nemetoka visiwa vya carrebian St Kitts & Nevis 🇰🇳🇰🇳.
Beautiful convo I think there is something exciting about the feminine energy, notice how you all speak at the same time almost unconsciously uncontrollably when talking about the MA energy ❤
The part about ukuthwasa being mostly an identity issue is very true. I am living proof of that- I was even psychotic because i lacked identity and many made me believe that i must thwasa but my mother refused to let me and so I went through the process of finding my ancestors from my mothers side and fathers side- today i am well and fine. Head this warning- find your totems first before you pay for ukuthwasa.
Imboni Dr uZwi Lezwe Radebe is a spiritual guider and the founder of the revelation spiritual home. In the new 100 years his sent by the spirit realm to revive and restore africans back to their spiritual roots and identity. In essence his a spiritual messenger
I never thought I'd see Thau Thau & Joshua Maphonga sitting together regardless of what Thau Thau has expressed about JM in 'Unpopular Opinion Podcast'😏... Two knowledge loggerheads spitting wisdom that is profound & indigenous.
That’s colonizer mentality they still got us in fighting with each other comparing who’s better or who’s smarter or who should do this and the next man should do that. Why can’t people just give thanks ?
Whoever you’re, don’t forget that, there is a time and place for everything under the stars moon and the sun Of course the scheme of things, definitely has been stratified by the enemies to keep blacks disorganized, so yes these brothers were at one point, unable to agree, but at least, they’re now seeing one another, regardless of border lines, but blood line, this is exactly how and where the colonizers, wishes for blacks to be at for the rest of our lives, so let’s get back to bloodline, and reject border lines, one Africa at home and abroad It’s like almost every one else, is against the blacks, but the blacks is against one another, where is our sense of history? Our sense of smelling the blood of our brothers and sisters? Awoke, liberate ourselves from the mental state of mind, of being what they expect us to be, no one can trivialized you or myself, but ourselves, blood line, over border make belief of better than, and lesser than
@AFROSAVVY, I appreciate your emphasis on African Spirituality and its connection to our identity. However, I'd like to explore further - How does African Spirituality intersect with African advancement, skills development, education, financial growth, mental health and innovation? How can our spiritual practices and beliefs support our progress and empowerment in this areas?. I believe we must acknowledge the historical impact of colonization, which has exposed our weakness and highlighted areas where we, as Africans, need to grow.
You know that is why I tell people that I'm a computer, wich has been designed and programmed to function in one way. You know wich is in an African way, and I cannot say I'm an African and think and also dream in a western way. You know and I cannot say I'm an African, and not leave my life and also do things in an African way. You know in simple terms of English, we then start to ask ourselves these question what kind of an African person will I be?😲🔥🔥
uBaba uMaponga ukhuluma kakhulu. We are unable to get the full perspective of uGogo no Mkhulu Thau Thau. He has taken over the show as if he is the leading vocalist and others are supporting singers. Other than that we are grateful for the information shared by these greatness.
Ntate Maphonga please check your ego, hearing from others perspectives is how we grow and increase our outlook. O ska nyatsa motho o mongwe, ithute mo go yena. I say all this with love
Inasmuch As travel is open within their continent, Europeans are Very Nationalistic. I am all for reverting to our King/Queen-dom territorial boundaries.
African cultivation and planting of seed truly involved women. My ambuya or gogo planted pumpkin seed, maize seed and men could do the ploughing. We have lost our culture
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I am humbled to have lived and evolved in Maponga's era. I was one oh the flower girls in his wedding when he wed laGoje, he buried my mother, baptised me etc. I am now a 38 year old lady and when he resurfaced with African spirituality I started questioning and wanting to know more. I've recently stopped being an adventist and learning more about African spirituality whilst learning my roots.
I’m also born&bred SDA. My dad was a mfundisi even. I’m 38 years old now… i attended Camp so i can listen to mfundisi Maponga! Haibo… I left the SDA church in 2016 and i discovered who I am. African spirituality changed my life.
I left SDA too years back. Raised by 2 church elders.
My parents always spoke so badly about Mr Maphonga but I couldn’t help but want to hear him out.
Only to find out I absolutely love his mind 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Truth speakers have no friends but, Mina I am highly attracted to TRUTH as the truth will liberate us from the mental colonial state
Truth truthfully he who he is is despised rejected and forsaken' thou he manifested to hi people out of his inheritance 'HE IS.
You are not alone
Ah 🙌🏾🙌🏾 The Grand masters, elders and sophists of African Spirituality
Yes!!!!! we need to follow the blood line not the border line. I like that 👍💪.
I wish Mr Maponga would learn that true intelligence in conversation lies not only in speaking but also in listening. Important topics none the less, very eye opening. Thank you.
This! 😮💨
@@evelyn_rampolaYes sis..the truth is that as an African nation, we've lost our culture hence we are suffering from generational curses. We need conversations like this to be reminded of who we are. Understanding of self will give us a direction that we need to take in order break these curses that we are suffering from, and regain all the blessings we lost.
@@sizwehlongwane5618 absolutely. We will find our way back 🤞🏼💯
Iiyoh it's disorientating 😒😒😩😫
I thought he was great and I’m grateful for everything he said. He’s such an honorable man…..1 love from California
I'm cooking and doing washing at the same time now I can't go out and hang my clothes.. Guys please we need another episode with more Spiritual Conciousness Evangelists may be 2 more please... Phela Siyayphusha Lento And Iyahamba Lento💜❤️🙏Thank You Gogo Wethu
This history must be taught throughout primary and high school - across Africa.
Colonizers and their surrogates will never support, let alone promote this empowering knowledge .
#Enlightening
#Enriching
im 20 and ever since i listened to my elder JM my perception drastically changed in a polite way , i can now perceive things as i am not as they are , much appreciated my elders, ntate chigaramboko mambokadzi
You have a point.The writing of the bible was influenced by great philosophers from the west,east and Africa(Egypt).It makes sense to make reference to it to emphasise that our African philosophy is rich and also belong with what other philosophy there is.
Oh!!! This is amazing I am so proud of you all Bantu abadala for sharing this knowledge. Baba Maponga was asked to send the message to the white.I could hear that it was not him talking that message was from the ancestors. Mlungu uzwile
Two great African minds. Haramanuba and Maponga these two men I respect a lot and don't take their words lightly. I'm from Nigeria. Bloodline Biafran of Igbo ancestry. Selam.
Re Thau Thau must be protected at all cost jeeer.
#KINGSAIDSO
100% king
I wish all Africans were to listen to these great minds
Great respect for these men and host
THIS VIDEO MUST BE PROTECTED AT ALL COSTS FOR THE FUTURE🙌🙌🙌🙌🔥🔥🔥🔥
knowledge of our story as the original people
Power to you Queen and Kings,thanks to Afrosavvy ❤
You had the big guns dear, Thau Thau and Maponga in one setting that's marvelous ❤😍😍
Thank you..!! Thank you..!! "Bishop.." Maponga..
You ARE! simply 1 of the very few.. most genuine.. NATURALLY gifted African Leaders[hips].. there are..
I have closely followed your channel for 'quite' a while..
I cannot.. will not.. compare myself with you (1-2-1).. that is absolute..
But, in my own 'little' way.. I hugely admire.. appreciate.. and indeed have been saying and preaching quite the same message.. amongst the community I belong..
You are a REAL.. VERY STRONG.. African Leader.. I hugely respect and admire you..
Good health to you and all your team at all times...
ÖAÖ (OAO)
The 2 great giants am going to learn and enjoying it 🎉❤
Powerful engagement I really addicted to these talks
Rre Thau Thau’s laughter is contagious mara ne 😂
He who doesn't know where his going even when he has arrived, he won't know he arrived ❤
Trust me, let’s be honest, almost everyone of us, Africans at home and abroad, has been sabotage in every aspect of our lives, so it’s more than high time, for all of us, to get together, in ways beyond our imagination, in order to reevaluate ourselves, knowing that no other, can or will ever be able to do, what we must do, for the well being of black Africans globally
this is one of the conversations i have been hoping to happen and waiting to see
Thankyou so much for the inspiration and insight s. We are learning, and learning from you children of the soil of Africa makes more sense because we must all cleanse ourselves from the foreign toxic waste.
Siyabulela 👌🏿food of thoughts 💯
ke kgale re lapa melala rena mamptja, jwale rea leboga lehono ge le fegolotse se borala bakgalabje.
Thanks to the Afrosavy team for making my wish & dream come true, I love you guys.
I see the entire interview, very brilliant and I can say a lot about the teachings... But my good God, @ 2:07:30!! Listen to Black Men Speak!!
I am a Christian and I love the mature conversations which were done here…. This is the best ever, can’t wait for part 2/3 …the chemistry was amazing between the three. Sbonge❤
Why are you still Christian
Maponga is such a wordsmith. Both Mkhulus are great, but Maponga has to learn to listen and give others a chance to finish their point.
I disagree - taking turns is a purely Western phenomenon. Listen to African music and you find rhythm - but no structure.
Do you realise that "African music" has rhythm but no structure? That's why it can not be duplicated!
@@Duke-e6k But this is a conversation, not Music.
i dont have much to say but, this is great.
🧜🏿♂️: Si-ya-khu-le-ka...E-kha-ya.
Sicela kubonga kakhulu kuwe gogo 🧙🏿♀️(Afrosavvy) for hosting lamakhehla lamadzala 🧙🏿♂️🧙🏿♂️ ...ajulile ngelwati.
🧜🏿♂️: MA-KWA-NDZE 🙌🏿
Wish I saw this earlier
Until we change the name "Africa" to describe our land and thus ourselves, we haven't started. We need a unifying language, like Swahili and a common currency. I pray we as a people unite as one and rise together. 1❤
Yes. We can
True
I’m an African from Kongo, proud of you 👍❤🎉 Masters and happy to see all of us united and know our true story ❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉😅
This man with no history to be proud of is obsessed with thd history of the Sudanese
Every African without history is obsessed with our history
We have NOTHING with West or South Africa
Who are you people and why are you obsessed with our ancestors the pharaohs?
Greetings &Grand rising Ubuntu family! Great to be in the presence of Grandmaster Thau Thau & King MJ & Queen sister there 🙏🙏🙏🇰🇳🇰🇳 Nemetoka visiwa vya carrebian St Kitts & Nevis 🇰🇳🇰🇳.
Beautiful convo
I think there is something exciting about the feminine energy, notice how you all speak at the same time almost unconsciously uncontrollably when talking about the MA energy ❤
What a lesson I had today ✌️thank you elders
i just had to subscribe, Ndokudai GOGO , baba Grandmaster Thau Thau Haramanuba naVaMaponga, i have acquire so much knowledge.
It would be great if Joshua maponga and Dr umar collab for the people and solution based convo
I was wishing for that collaboration 😅 very useful
The part about ukuthwasa being mostly an identity issue is very true. I am living proof of that- I was even psychotic because i lacked identity and many made me believe that i must thwasa but my mother refused to let me and so I went through the process of finding my ancestors from my mothers side and fathers side- today i am well and fine. Head this warning- find your totems first before you pay for ukuthwasa.
The salvation of Africa will only begin when African Spirituality is re-invigorated.
Imboni Dr uZwi Lezwe Radebe is a spiritual guider and the founder of the revelation spiritual home. In the new 100 years his sent by the spirit realm to revive and restore africans back to their spiritual roots and identity. In essence his a spiritual messenger
Maphonga need to listen to Thau Thau more, there is a lot he can learn from him
Beautiful minds... beautiful conversations
Greetings greetings my Lord give thanks to umfihlakalo the hidden things must revile mfihlakalo yezulu
Powerful speech
Me, I will always classify this video as the genesis of my enquiring mind. cheers
Our grandmothers are own libraries
Thank you very much. I always wanted to see bontate bana ba lutse 'moho ba bua ka african solutions. Finally!
Your Idea logy is your bio logy
Maponga loves the sound of his voice, like bro shut up and listen . But i have to admit, he is well learned and dedicated to his African ways.
Ok so an invited guest must not talk i get it.
Powerful Discussion we thank the gods for this Collab
I never thought I'd see Thau Thau & Joshua Maphonga sitting together regardless of what Thau Thau has expressed about JM in 'Unpopular Opinion Podcast'😏... Two knowledge loggerheads spitting wisdom that is profound & indigenous.
Yes. But maponga should also be a listeners. Thau thau is also an incredible source of knowledge
@@walusunguzimba7739I agree with Thau thau the grandmaster i think Maponga is still rising
That’s colonizer mentality they still got us in fighting with each other comparing who’s better or who’s smarter or who should do this and the next man should do that. Why can’t people just give thanks ?
Whoever you’re, don’t forget that, there is a time and place for everything under the stars moon and the sun
Of course the scheme of things, definitely has been stratified by the enemies to keep blacks disorganized, so yes these brothers were at one point, unable to agree, but at least, they’re now seeing one another, regardless of border lines, but blood line, this is exactly how and where the colonizers, wishes for blacks to be at for the rest of our lives, so let’s get back to bloodline, and reject border lines, one Africa at home and abroad
It’s like almost every one else, is against the blacks, but the blacks is against one another, where is our sense of history? Our sense of smelling the blood of our brothers and sisters? Awoke, liberate ourselves from the mental state of mind, of being what they expect us to be, no one can trivialized you or myself, but ourselves, blood line, over border make belief of better than, and lesser than
Give thanks
Thau Thau ❤❤❤
Cultural revolution is a must 👏🏾
A very enlightening panel🫸🏿🫷🏿
Peace to the Gods 🌅
Powerful interview wow big up Afrosavvy.
Been longing for this 🙏🏾🙏🏾
love to you elders ✊🔥
Mkhulu Thau Thau Haramanuba Grand Master of the order of Bekehase the soul is for the bantu❤
@AFROSAVVY, I appreciate your emphasis on African Spirituality and its connection to our identity. However, I'd like to explore further - How does African Spirituality intersect with African advancement, skills development, education, financial growth, mental health and innovation? How can our spiritual practices and beliefs support our progress and empowerment in this areas?.
I believe we must acknowledge the historical impact of colonization, which has exposed our weakness and highlighted areas where we, as Africans, need to grow.
Grandmaster Thau Thau ✊
It`s good to be hear...Zvakanaka kuvapano
I see what u did there... wakangwara
@@munyamadzima2525 Matendwa Changamire nekusvika...healing conversation.....complementing knowledge and respect.
Maponga needs to allow others to speak and complete their thoughts.
THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE GUYS🙏
I have always wished to see JM and TT together
Moponga J i love that part ya Modimo the great Ancestor le ya Thobela
One love my family
Maponga is making this important wisdom conversation about himself.. He interrupt the other Guest every time.. He is too much
Wow... the grand masters at work! How did you pull that gogo... siyatibongela, siyacobonga nje lokuwa kulesidlo😅
I enjoyed this episode big time 😂❤. Let’s absorb the knowledge presented to us and practice what should rightfully belong ❤
You know that is why I tell people that I'm a computer, wich has been designed and programmed to function in one way. You know wich is in an African way, and I cannot say I'm an African and think and also dream in a western way. You know and I cannot say I'm an African, and not leave my life and also do things in an African way. You know in simple terms of English, we then start to ask ourselves these question what kind of an African person will I be?😲🔥🔥
Been waiting for this one
Le_Dwaba checked in 12 Nov 2024 ❤ Salute the Kings
Joshua Maponga the knowledge you have accumulated is beyond your functioning ❤
I love your style no makeup
uBaba uMaponga ukhuluma kakhulu. We are unable to get the full perspective of uGogo no Mkhulu Thau Thau. He has taken over the show as if he is the leading vocalist and others are supporting singers. Other than that we are grateful for the information shared by these greatness.
Ntate Maphonga please check your ego, hearing from others perspectives is how we grow and increase our outlook. O ska nyatsa motho o mongwe, ithute mo go yena. I say all this with love
😂😂😂 loving the way they finding each other. 🎉
🫶🏽🫶🏾🫶🏽🫶🏾 Thank you.
Inasmuch As travel is open within their continent, Europeans are Very Nationalistic. I am all for reverting to our King/Queen-dom territorial boundaries.
Been waiting for this.😁❤️
Siyabonga kakhulu
I enjoyed these ❤
So good to see you again
Ooooooh let me watch. Been waiting for this interaction
Wow
O me ngwana waka kea mmelega
O ke monna waka kea mmelegela
❤
we are the generation 80 and 90
Siyabonga sibonga kakhulu🙏.
True,i just learnt that are actually the Radebe's,Bataung was a family that adopted our family hence we are
2 God's and a Godess 🙌🏾🙏🏾
When did you lounge the book I want mine pliz JM
Amazing Wisdom
We are after all Creatures, we've been going up and down with other Creatures.
God's Champion. ✝️🥺
The key is work.
African cultivation and planting of seed truly involved women. My ambuya or gogo planted pumpkin seed, maize seed and men could do the ploughing. We have lost our culture
Not lost, forgotten, that is why we must re-member!
@@leobvenzen8565 true need to re-unite with our-selves
beautiful
Wat a sit down
"Accademically Circumcised"
Im putting that on a tshirt😭🤣🤣🤣
Kikikiki,,,,I like this one