Obsolete and Outnumbered | Croatian Late-War Fighter Aircraft

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  • Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
  • The Independent State of Croatia was a puppet state established by Germany and Italy after the invasion and dismemberment of the Kingdom of Yugoslavia in April 1941. Following its creation, it immediately began forming its own military, including an air force. While it inherited some Yugoslav aircraft, it lacked modern and sufficient equipment, particularly in terms of fighter aircraft. In 1942, the acquisition of the Italian Fiat G.50bis somewhat alleviated the situation to a minimal extent. Similarly, the Morane-Saulnier M.S.406, a French fighter plane, and the Messerschmitt Me 109, a German aircraft, were also acquired, but in limited numbers, and often arriving too late to significantly impact the air force's capabilities. Croatia struggled with many logistical challenges, including shortages of fuel, which severely limited the operational effectiveness of its air force. These limitations meant that its air force was often unable to effectively defend Croatian airspace or provide significant support to Axis operations in the region. Overall, this air force remained relatively small and under-equipped throughout the war.
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Комментарии • 159

  • @borisfabian1621
    @borisfabian1621 4 дня назад +10

    I live in Zagreb, I met during 2009 few times one Crostian war pilot (he was flying Ju-88 in KG Hindenburg and Me-109 in JG52) after war he fly in Lufthansa in midle east, he was nice man!

  • @MM22966
    @MM22966 8 дней назад +20

    "She gets twenty air-kilometers to the hectare!"
    "What country is this plane from?"
    "ehhhhh...It no longer exists."

  • @user-pc2jp2yr3c
    @user-pc2jp2yr3c 7 дней назад +16

    Croatian Ace fighter pilot Mato Dukovac was credited with 44 kills during WW2. He flew with the Yugoslav Airforce, Croatian Airforce and Luftwaffe.

  • @FRIEND_711
    @FRIEND_711 8 дней назад +11

    Its so weird to look up the ICS airforce, for obvious reasons but still its facinating with all the aircraft they had.
    They even had the Fi-167 for reasons.

  • @lovelpetrovic1865
    @lovelpetrovic1865 6 дней назад +10

    My grandfather's brother was a pilot trainer both in the Kingdom of Yugoslavia and the NDH. He defected to partisans in September 1944 with a Fieseler plane.

    • @365tito3
      @365tito3 5 дней назад +1

      Petrović koji je prebegao s Čajavecom?

    • @lovelpetrovic1865
      @lovelpetrovic1865 5 дней назад +3

      @@365tito3 pilot Romeo Adum, stric moje majke. Zanimljivo da je s njime prebjegao i kopilot imenom Matija Petrović. Anegdotalno je da će mnogo godina kasnije moja majka imati oba ta prezimena.

    • @365tito3
      @365tito3 5 дней назад +2

      @@lovelpetrovic1865 Wow znači talijan? Zanimljivo! Neka im je slava za pobjedu u ratu i srećan dan boraca!

    • @lovelpetrovic1865
      @lovelpetrovic1865 5 дней назад +1

      @@365tito3 ne Talijan, Hrvat sa beogradskom adresom. Kasnije pilotirao za Jat i poginuo u zrakoplovnoj nesreći kod Beča.

    • @365tito3
      @365tito3 4 дня назад +1

      @@lovelpetrovic1865 Neka mu je slava i hvala! Ja sam na 1/4 talijan, plus crnogorac i srbin i ne bi mi žao bilo uz takvog hrvata se boriti. To su bili pravi ljudi heroji.

  • @RicoBanani
    @RicoBanani 2 дня назад

    wow, finally a thorough and chronologically exact history of the first Yugoslavia

  • @garyhooper1820
    @garyhooper1820 8 дней назад +8

    Interesting piece of history , thanks

  • @Wolfen443
    @Wolfen443 7 дней назад +5

    The smaller German allies in WWII get ignored too often in hindsight.

  • @wojciechmikosz407
    @wojciechmikosz407 8 дней назад +13

    What??? Only 1 Fiat G50 which survived? Last year I saw one in Reggia Aeronautica Museum in Bracchiano near Rome.

    • @mrlight0133
      @mrlight0133 8 дней назад +5

      I think you confused the G50 with the C200?

    • @wojciechmikosz407
      @wojciechmikosz407 7 дней назад +1

      @mrlight0133 No,both of them were there 🙂

    • @IntrospectorGeneral
      @IntrospectorGeneral 7 дней назад +1

      The Bracciano museum records a Fiat G-50 bis as "under restoration" but doesn't list it as part of its display collection on its site. Looks like enough restoration has been finished to get it out for public viewing.

    • @wojciechmikosz407
      @wojciechmikosz407 7 дней назад +2

      @IntrospectorGeneral Until last year the museum was closed and was being renovated for 100 years anniversary of this place. I think they restored many other planes as well because the collection was quite impressive.

  • @rm5902
    @rm5902 3 дня назад +3

    Great as usual

  • @justnothing8692
    @justnothing8692 День назад +1

    Oh no everyone is learning how naughty Croatia was in ww2

  • @daveanderson3805
    @daveanderson3805 8 дней назад +3

    Interesting video. And I found the back story about Croatia's effort as Germany's ally Interesting too.

    • @user-pc2jp2yr3c
      @user-pc2jp2yr3c 5 дней назад

      Croatia was invaded in April 1941, same as Serbia by Nazi Germany and both had puppet govts put in place.

  • @PinkFloyd4
    @PinkFloyd4 6 дней назад +1

    Jako zanimljivo.

  • @goldeneagle5820
    @goldeneagle5820 2 дня назад +1

    Very correct rewiew - specially in relations from german govern to croatian soldiers. All true... 345 victories overall you said? Would be interesting to see some comparison in percentage of planes&flights...

    • @markopantelic3088
      @markopantelic3088 10 часов назад

      Thanks for the comment. The air victory numbers should of course be taken with a bit of grain of salt. Sources are not always reliable regarding the numbers, but the Soviet AIr Force, employed large number of aircraft. So it may not be that much distanced from the truth.

  • @yogurt3572
    @yogurt3572 5 дней назад +1

    Good vid

  • @engineer1941
    @engineer1941 7 дней назад +1

    I think there was atleast one BF110 active in airforce. In lastest book about airforce there are images from american scrapyards after war where BF110 hull with Croatian markings is present. And i think best confirmed Croatian ace on Eastern front was Mato Dukovac.

    • @engineer1941
      @engineer1941 7 дней назад +1

      Topic of Croatian Airforce and Armed forces is being researched there are new discoveries every now and then. It was forbidden to reasearch it until 90s and in last decade Serbia eased bit access to Croatian archives in Belgrade, ton of documentation is still unavailable for researchers so it might be interesting if they ever give us back WW1, WW2 and both yugos archives.

  • @exocet1
    @exocet1 5 дней назад +1

    I believe they also received Macch'is 202

  • @StoneCresent
    @StoneCresent 8 дней назад +17

    I cringed every time they called Bf 109s Me 109s. Did the Croats really called them Me 109s?

    • @bryantbridgewaters7177
      @bryantbridgewaters7177 8 дней назад +17

      Very often, literature from ww2 often referred to them as "Me.109". Not sure if the Croats called them that too though.

    • @spudgunn8695
      @spudgunn8695 7 дней назад +1

      I've always called them the Me. Bf.109. Maker followed by model. But then, I'm a 1970's autistic brat, so what else would you expect! Lol

    • @1joshjosh1
      @1joshjosh1 7 дней назад +3

      U cringed did ya.
      Well then.

    • @lukadoslic3034
      @lukadoslic3034 7 дней назад +4

      We pronounce the whole name of the manufacturer. Messerschmitt 109

    • @StoneCresent
      @StoneCresent 7 дней назад +4

      @@lukadoslic3034 Yes, Messerschmitt is the manufacturer, but the official designation of the aircraft series was Bf 109. The Bf came from the name of the company before mid 1938 when Willy Messerschmitt acquired it, Bayerische Flugzeugwerke. Thus it would be more accurate to call the plane a Messerschmitt Bf 109 both in the sense Willy Messerschmitt co-designed it and the fact that the company that made it eventually bared his name. The Bf 109 series was never redesignated, but aircraft the company developed and introduced after Messerschmitt bought it out would bare the Me designation.

  • @joseveintegenario-nisu1928
    @joseveintegenario-nisu1928 3 дня назад +1

    In 1978, the Tito's Yugoslavia had Banknotes written in four Alphabets: latin, Greek, Cyril and Arab.
    The Yugo car factory could have been a determinant element in the mostly french attacks to the serbian Milosevic.
    Gavril Princip, murder in Sarajevo, triggering WW I, had an hebrew name and surname.

    • @Harahvaiti
      @Harahvaiti 3 дня назад

      There was never a Yugoslav banknote with Greek or Arah letters, not in general use and it's highly unlikely to have one such published as limited collectionaire series

    • @joseveintegenario-nisu1928
      @joseveintegenario-nisu1928 3 дня назад

      @@Harahvaiti I was in Yugoslavia in 1978, had these banknotes from a bank change in Trieste

  • @mosesracal6758
    @mosesracal6758 7 дней назад

    Its weird to refer to the Bf 109 as Me 109

    • @nedlooby7419
      @nedlooby7419 7 дней назад

      Yeah unless you were actually their at the time using the terms interchangeably and not some 1960s technical purist

  • @ZS-rw4qq
    @ZS-rw4qq 7 дней назад +2

    You got an episode on Yugo partisans? Their first pilots were Ustaše defectors

    • @PlaneEncyclopediaYT
      @PlaneEncyclopediaYT  6 дней назад +3

      That's an interesting idea. We'll tell our scriptwriter to look into it!

    • @ZS-rw4qq
      @ZS-rw4qq 6 дней назад +2

      @@PlaneEncyclopediaYT Well boys, you just earned yourselves a sub!

    • @oskng
      @oskng 6 дней назад +1

      Partizani su osnovani u hrvatskoj

    • @Harahvaiti
      @Harahvaiti 3 дня назад

      ​​@@PlaneEncyclopediaYTjust to clarify things - those pilots were not ustasha defectors but regular army defectors. Ustashe were voluntary armed force akin to Black Shrits in Italy or in a lesser degree to Waffen SS in Germany but Air Force of NDH was part of regular army, none of them wore ustasha uniforms.

  • @alhemicaribastovani9029
    @alhemicaribastovani9029 8 дней назад

    😮

  • @davey7452
    @davey7452 7 дней назад

    By late 1943 the war was going against Germany they were hard pressed on heavy weapons especially combat aircraft the Croatians were not given much in the way of modern warplanes just obsolete or referbuished models it was adequate because Titos forces had no combat aircraft but by 1945 RAF support from Itay became available the ad vance of the Red army through the Balkans was too much and the Croatian airforce collapsed.

  • @365tito3
    @365tito3 5 дней назад +2

    What this doesnt mention is that the NDH was given a lot of Bucker Jungmann and Bestmann trainers. The partisans would capture these and use them as improvised bombers by dropping grenades from them, or as attack aircraft by mounting a gun at the back.

    • @VladimirLabovic
      @VladimirLabovic 3 дня назад

      'ебо те Ћопави

    • @VladimirLabovic
      @VladimirLabovic 3 дня назад +1

      'ebo te Copavi

    • @365tito3
      @365tito3 2 дня назад

      @@VladimirLabovic =u= mad bro?

    • @VladimirLabovic
      @VladimirLabovic 2 дня назад

      @@365tito3 Pricaj srpski da te ceo svet razume.
      Nema vecih bolesnika od vas Jugonostalgicara i ljubitelja copavog Tita

    • @markopantelic3088
      @markopantelic3088 2 дня назад +1

      That is true, but they are not fighters but trainers as you mentioned. Maybe one day in the future we may do more on NDH stuff.

  • @DaveSCameron
    @DaveSCameron 8 дней назад +8

    Fantastic football team, almost as ruthless as the Ustache were circa 1943, I hear… ⚽️📚

    • @DaveSCameron
      @DaveSCameron 8 дней назад +1

      P.S. you might want to consider slowing down your slideshow pace a touch, or maybe even use images and footage that is relevant to your narration and give me some chance of learning something. Best wishes. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿📚

    • @wojciechmikosz407
      @wojciechmikosz407 8 дней назад +2

      Even that team is in ruins now 😂

    • @user-pc2jp2yr3c
      @user-pc2jp2yr3c 7 дней назад +3

      Fun fact. A Croatian football team, Hajduk Split, played a British army team in Italy during WW2.

    • @agrameroldoctane_66
      @agrameroldoctane_66 7 дней назад +3

      ​@@user-pc2jp2yr3c that was communist, not Croatian team.

    • @user-pc2jp2yr3c
      @user-pc2jp2yr3c 7 дней назад +1

      @@agrameroldoctane_66 Still ethnic Croatian but yes Yugoslav Partisan team.

  • @rogerhudson9732
    @rogerhudson9732 5 дней назад +1

    The Croatian Airforce still has problems, they even fly a couple of Mig21s.
    ...ZD,S

    • @Bileks150
      @Bileks150 4 дня назад

      Not anymore. Migs are being replaced by rafales

  • @agrameroldoctane_66
    @agrameroldoctane_66 7 дней назад +8

    Nice video about 🇭🇷, thanks. BTW Croatia had statehood since 925, as country was a part of St. Stephen and Habsburg Kingom based upon treaty, not conquest. First time Croatian parliament, juditial and legal system was dismantled was in 1919, right after serbian occupation under "yugoslavian" name.
    EDIT: In comments all tractor drivers seems to have rabies. Normal people, do not go there 🤣🤣

    • @Dominikuuu
      @Dominikuuu 6 дней назад +2

      Propaganda
      Croatia never had kings or empire.
      Its fairy tales.

    • @agrameroldoctane_66
      @agrameroldoctane_66 6 дней назад +3

      @@Dominikuuu smell like three-phases ...

    • @Bileks150
      @Bileks150 4 дня назад +4

      ​@@Dominikuuujust ignoring books, historical writings and archaeological finds?

    • @milosgostiljac7329
      @milosgostiljac7329 3 дня назад +1

      No evidence of croatian kings, state, never .. they get their autnomy and state first time in Yugoslavia, and thanks to Serbia. After that, in NDH, they made genocide over serbian population, more than 500k civilians they killed in most brutal way

    • @Bileks150
      @Bileks150 3 дня назад +5

      @@milosgostiljac7329 There is alot of evidences, with first ever historical records dating back to 10th century Byzant which was one of the first empires that was writing about south-slavic tribes, theyr culture and theyr imigration. There are also records from Venetians, Franks and even Papal state (Vatican), which writes about Croat princes from 9th century, kingdom of Croatia and has records of people crowned as the kings of croatia and dalmatia.

  • @mariomihalina1656
    @mariomihalina1656 7 дней назад +6

    I am Croatian. This WAS NOT Croatia. It was nazi pupet regime, genocidal in roots. Change the title.

    • @nedlooby7419
      @nedlooby7419 7 дней назад +7

      So nazi germany was not germany? It's a sad chapter of Croatian history no point denying it face it

    • @marklittle8805
      @marklittle8805 6 дней назад

      Unfortunately Croatia or what it was during these years got in bed with the Germans to try and get away from the Serbs. Yugoslavia just didn't work for all these groups and Croatia wanted their own nation and the Germans were willing to help.

    • @Tom-uk2ow
      @Tom-uk2ow 6 дней назад +1

      ​@@nedlooby7419dod you know about croat partizans,they are more croats in partizans...

    • @lovelpetrovic1865
      @lovelpetrovic1865 6 дней назад

      Exactly. According to international war law, that entity was not a subject of international law.

    • @user-pc2jp2yr3c
      @user-pc2jp2yr3c 5 дней назад +1

      @@nedlooby7419 Both Croatia and Serbia had pro-Nazi puppet govts installed by Nazi Germany after they got invaded in April 1941.