Upgrade the Anthem AVM 70 to the AVM 90 Already? | Can I? Should I? | HOME THEATER SETUP VLOG
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- In this home theater setup vlog, I'm talking:
* The Anthem AVM90 preamp processor is now shipping!
* It looks amazing
* What's the main difference to the AVM70?
* Should I upgrade my AVM70 to the AVM90...
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I’m with you 100% on this one! Again I look at the Laws of Diminishing Returns and my Beliefs!🤣 The 90 is roughly twice the Price of the 70. I simply don’t believe the Sound Quality will double in Improvement. Does it Sound better? It’s truly Subjective! What I hear you may totally not agree! I remember going to a High End Stereo Store in the early 90s. One of the Salesman wanted me to listen to one of their $25,000 speakers. After I listened to them he beamingly look at me and asked,”How do they sound”? I replied,”They were Ok. I wasn’t too Thrilled”! He immediately turned off the equipment and left the Demo room and didn’t Utter a word! Clearly he heard a higher quality speaker than I! To me if I didn’t know the actual price I would have thought they cost $1200/$1500. Sorry about my long Thesis but hopefully you get my point! Quality of Sound is truly Subjective no matter how much it Cost!🤣👴🏽
Yep!
Thank you for bringing sanity to my world!🤣 Just when I thought I was the odd one out. I recently went for a listen at my local dealership, and they played me the Klipsch 8000 F, hooked to Anthem MRX1140… and I own a pair of Polk Audio S55’s🤓. They cranked the volume up to something like -12db, and it was loud yeah, but it was uhm… ok.🤷🏻♂️🤓 I guess what I’m trying to say is, why spend all that money if I’m not gonna notice the difference anyway, it’s a returnless investment.. if that’s the word.
Ask a bank what's the difference between 2 zero debt people one with a cs of 797 and another of 845...they can't tell.
I currently own an avm 70 also and have been thinking of upgrading to the 90, but only because music is a big part of what I listen to. I’m with you, after waiting 6 months to get the 70 and now owning it for a while it’s hard to justify upgrading already… hard decision.
Its a tough choice.. i went with the 90 but struggled with the price. The fact it is hdmi 2.1 ready and 4 subs did it for me. I think the pricegap will close a bit when they start selling the 70 with hdmi 2.1. All you youtubers convinced me to go for anthem😁
Love Anthem. Either model is an amazing call. If you have more subs and the cash, why not go 90!
The avm70 is coming out with the hdmi 2.1 board
It will be $4k
Feature wise the only difference between the two will be 2 individually managed subs vs 4
But the main selling point isnt features
If your looking for features and only features with 2 subs, get the 70
But the 90 provides a huge bump in sound quality. It goes head to toe in this department with storm and trinnov and in some areas its even better.
It’s not just different dacs, its how they are implemented in the avm90 with the output stages, shorter signal path, psu management, ext.
The avm90 is so good its like using an external multithousand dollar Dac powering all your channels
THATS the difference and thats why u buy the 90
Yep, I expect to have an AVM90 in my future someday. :) In meantime, as soon as I can upgrade my 70 to the new board, I will and cover it on the channel with videos.
Sure it is nice to be able calibrate 4 subs with ARC with the AVM90, but you can do it just as well (or better?) with a miniDSP together with an AVM70. I have had a lot of bugs and problems with my AVM70 and glad I didnt pay for the AVM90. As you say the AVM70 sounds amazing!
A lot of people like them, for good reasons, but my goal is to keep a miniDSP out of my setup. I don’t need the added complexity, for me. ARC does it all for my system.
@@Techthusiasm Yes, if you only have two subs then ARC is enough on the AVM70. What I was saying was that you either need an AVM90 or a miniDSP if you are accuratly going to calibrate more than two subs.
Got it, yep. 👍🏻
I thought similarly that the cinema would be a great solution for theater and music, but the only “music” I listen to in there is concert videos. The ‘2-channel’ listening is done in my office now. It’s just not quiet/calm enough in my house to do critical listening.
Yep.
I just view your video about the AVM 90. It seems that most people agree with you for double the price it's not all that, unless U got the room to add 4 subs and most people don't. I got the AVM 70 at a great price. It was very hard to decide which processor to buy. It needed to be upgradeable first of all things. My 2 choices was emotiva or anthem. I'm going to need to go back to your video on setting up the bass. It's not turning on my bass.
I think folks also see the 90 a bit stronger if music factors a lot in your use. For me, in my theater, it doesn’t.
I thought about this as well but after seeing some avm70 selling for $2750 on the secondary market .. no way I can take that much of a hit after only a few months. Plus I don’t listen to music .. only movies.
Keep what you have and enjoy it.
Wow! I’m shocked you see the AVM70 going for $2750? I wonder why?
What's wrong with the AVM60? Seems to do everything you need. VERY cheap on the used market. For 2 channel get a separate DAC/preamp. Honestly, you should do that with any processor if you want HT and 2 channel
The 60 was really nice, for sure. The 70 and 90 pack a lot more into them now though and will continue to be updated with fixes and features for a while to come. I'd strongly recommend trying to get into a 70/90 vs. a 60 if one was considering Anthem.
in your opinion is it worth switching from a marantz av 8805A to ANTHEM AVM 90 ??
After going from an AV7704 to an AVM70, I'd recommend the move from an 8805 to an AVM90 in a heart beat. You have my blessing. :) Go forth and upgrade!
It's not just 4 Sub input it's the better Dac also, but still can't justify it's. This delays is or keep changing releases date is the problem.
Yeah, when I was talking about the guts, I was referring mostly to the DAC. It’s a lot, but if music and concerts is a primary use, then could be a nice upgrade.
@@Techthusiasm I really want to hear the difference between AVM90 vs Marantz AV8805A because I don't want to buy another 8805A, wanted to try something different.
Anthem is great IMO. I’m very happy with the change from Marantz to Anthem for various reasons. I was just a tier lower going from 770X to 70.
Well i can say look at the review from spec of tech he bought the 70 first then the 90 , he said the 90 was a game changer....
I hope to be able to comment on it first-hand eventually. :)
@@Techthusiasm 7500 is alot of money i don't see a review anytime soon,..im shock spec of tech bought both...kudos to him...
I question of the extra money on the AVM90 would be better spent on upgraded speaker.
Yeah, me too. People that have the 90 tend to gush lovingly about them. But the main difference is in build quality/materials and DACs and that sort of thing.
Adding 2 or 3 subs… + the 90… it becomes big money… do you have the room to optimize all that equipment???
Oh yeah, my room could support 4 subs pretty easily in the current layout going with all 4 corners. It would work great.
The price for the AVM 70 seem like a steal given all the features it contains. What are your thoughts on this unit compared with Emotiva's RMC-1 which has price drop in the last few days?
I'd do that Anthem 100%. And, I agree, the AVM 70 does a lot for the price compared to the $6k+ models.
Emotivas top processor is only $3799 🤣🤣...pocket change for Anthem Avm90
thanks for the review; are there any differences other than the hdmi 2.1 board on the AVM70 ver1. vs the AVM70 ver.2 ? I am not playing games on that system so I don't need 4k/120hz. Upgraded DAC, anything else? Thanks!
I'm not aware of any other differences, except the board. If you buying new right now, you're probably getting the 8K version anyway with the HDMI 2.1 board. It'll be better for resale eventually anyway.
For that kind of money I would probably want to find used lyngdorf mp50
Lots of great options out there!
I've been rocking the Marantz AV8805 for 3 years now. Very happy with it's feature set. I don't want to break the bank on the AVM90 so will the 70 be a downgrade since it cost over a thousand less?
Great question. I’m an 8805A user myself. Had the 8805 first, for about 18mo. The reliability is unmatched. Can’t imagine the sonic improvement is worth the trade on the reliability and software bugs I’ve read about. With Audyssey MultEQ X, doubt there’s any sonic difference that can’t be tuned into or out of the system. Stick with your 8805…
@@HiFinest343 I have the AV8805 as well and haven’t seen the point to upgrade to the 8805A. I am in Germany and I run a 9.3.4 ATMOS system and a 7.3.6 Auro3D system and with there last update I now have DTS-X Pro so I see no reason to upgrade until I go to a Trinnov.
@@pgreen0001 I've added the Center Front Height about a year ago and now I'm about to finally and The Voice Of God height channel. Can't wait to experience all 13 channels at once.
@@avtechman77 The center height adds do much to the front stage. I would switch back from DTS Neural to Auro3d on normal stereo content like RUclips and the difference is night and day.
You have a flagship model there. Not much reason to change until some bigger reasons come along. 👏
I can’t reason myself to buy any of the 2 to replace my d2v 3d i’ve paid 10k$. The only downside for me is that i don’t have 4k passthrough. No atmos but i will never go above 7.1 so i don’t care.
Nice! Enjoy what you have. 👍
trinnov altitude 16 or Avm 70,90. Which is the best processor since you have used both..
That's a very good question
I’d buy the 90 and take a vacation with the rest. Or a laser JVC! 😁
Well I have the avm90
I would love to send you pictures of my room and all my equipment it's not done but will nice when I finish.
I have a separate high end 2ch system and only 2subs so I don’t see much benefit in going with the 90
The 90 is more of a home theater or mixed used processor. The STR is Anthem's two-channel preamp. I have one for my living room and love it.
Hi Jeremy. I noticed on the anthem website that the 70 and 90 no longer advertise Dtx pro. Do those processors still offer that?
It’s never came yet. Supposed to be a future update, but we will see.
@@Techthusiasm any word ?
Still a wait and see.
Do you use 325 power amps ?
No, I have Parasound. Check out some of the other channel videos. 👍🏻
I’ll tell you flat out, don’t upgrade. I bought an AVM90 and ended up returning it because the auto update feature wiped the profile, rendering my entire system unusable because I didn’t know how to set it up from scratch. Also, Anthem’s software process seems not to have good quality control, as just this last Friday they tried to rollback update 73, which had issues, to update 68, and that rollback itself had issues. Seriously disappointed with Anthem.
Yeah, the beta to official release transition going on right now has been a bit of a debacle. I hope they learn from this. My 70 has been kind stuck and messed up in its updating.
@@Techthusiasm I hope those issues are unique to AVM70 and 90, and not the MRX740 or 1140.🤓
I have the avm90 just got it 3 weeks ago
Sweet! 😄
I love your setup in your theater. I did persona 7f and the persona c center channel. For surrounds I did in wall elite7 from pardigm and In ceiling I did elite3 from pardigm. My amps on the front stage I did (3) monobolck m1 (anthem) the rest the amps I did (2) mca 525 and (1) mca 225. And for subwoofer I did (4) persona sub1, and that's just the theater room.
Awesome room I’m sure!
Thanks I have 9.4.6 but I still think yours is very nice with the focal in walls
Thanks! I’m happy with it for sure.
DAC'S!!!
Yep. Someday!
What Amp would you match with your Anthem?
I chose Parasound, but more about being a match for my speakers vs. a match for the Anthem. I’m very happy with them.
What about matching bower Wilkins
Either of the brands would probably do great with B&W, but I haven’t heard that combo first hand.
I doubt it’s worth it to buy if you have had the 70 for only three months. How much better is the 90 then the 70? It doesn’t sound like it’s That much better 🤷♂️🤔
Yeah, I’m good for sure.
No, you do not need a AVM 90.
Enjoy your AVM 70 ;o)
Yep! 😀