What is the best class for each character in Trials of Mana?

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  • @maverick5169
    @maverick5169 4 года назад +52

    This video is quite brief when explaining things, and sometimes fairly inaccurate.
    Duran: his best qualities are healing for light and sabers for Dark. Edelfrei is by far his best class since it gives him the elemental sabers, to wreck bosses
    Kevin: he is great in both paths. Unlike the original game, Poto Oils aren't fast and enemeis cannot counterattack! This works for Light Kevin as he can use Spin Kick for dealing with many enemeis at once, and use Multiheal as Warrior Monk if you don't have Charlotte. Then again if you can deal with just Poto Oils or have Charlotte, Fatal Fist is the way to go.
    Hawkeye; you talked about debuffs and ignored Ninja Master. Ninja Master can hit multiple spots of a boss, making more damage and debuffing more. Ninja Master + Star Lancer + Angela is one broken combo.
    Riesz: nothing to argue here, Star Lancer is amazing.
    Charlotte: Sage offers good DPS with Lucent Beam. And Necromancer isn't about damage, it's about Dark Curse, A.K.A the best debuffing skill in the game.
    Angela: Dark isn't about single target damage. Ancient Curse, the Magus only spell, is an AOE spell. However it's really, really slow which makes it impratical against trash mobs who will attack you and dodgy bosses. Grand Diviner's Chaincasting with Lucent Beam+ is better than Ancient, Doppleganger and Glitter Dust. Let's not forget that Grand Diviner has a really good MP regeneration, you can cast without worrying. Rune Seer is another good option that clears nearly every mob in the game with Stone Cloud and inflicts good damage to bosses thanks to level 3 spell, like Blaze Wall.

    • @dragonmageddon8459
      @dragonmageddon8459 4 года назад +7

      Thanks for making this post.
      I was about to mention Hawkeyes Ninja Master, but your comment pretty much nails it (& clears up misconceptions about the rest of the cast as well).

    • @maverick5169
      @maverick5169 4 года назад +5

      @@dragonmageddon8459
      You're welcome man, this is one of those tricky games where the devs made a class, didn't check it enough times to balance it and gave a description based of what they wanted the classes to be, instead of what they really are in depth.
      It's kinda like FE Three Houses, where IS REALLY wants Edelgard to be a slow tank, when in reality you can give her Pegasus Knight + Weight -3 and she becomes the fastest lord.

    • @stephennegron7560
      @stephennegron7560 4 года назад

      Thanks for this comment . I just picked up the game and happened to pick angela hawkeye and riesz . This video helped me alot too but the way you just made my random team pick sound real badass is great 🤣 I'm lvl 45 and I love it so far 🙌👌

    • @maverick5169
      @maverick5169 4 года назад +1

      @@stephennegron7560
      Glad to hear that. I must say, I kinda regret my statement about Magus. Magus can surpass GD/ Archmage in power with all the Wound Magic skills, making it very good in lategame, expecially if you have someone with Healing Light+. A level 78 Magus > Spellbinder Angela with all the wound magic skills can kill the mega secret boss before it does the purple gauge thing.
      However Light Angela is by far the better midgame choice. Sorceress is amazing thanks to Elemental Combo and Tier 2 spells.
      But really, do what you want with Angela. She is broken in any class 3 you make her!

    • @benoitb.3014
      @benoitb.3014 3 года назад

      So, if I understand and we make a link with the first video, the three(story) teams proposed should be #1 Kevin (Light/Dark), Charlotte(Light/Light or Dark/Light) , Hawkeye (Dark/Light) #2 Duran (Dark/Light), Angela (Light/Light or Dark/Light), Riesz (Light/Dark) #3 Hawkeye (Dark/Light), Riesz (Light/Dark), Duran(Light/Light). Is that right? How do you suggest to spare the points ? Thanks for your answer ! (I'm beginning the game soon and I like to plan multiple run)

  • @PlasmoX
    @PlasmoX 4 года назад +28

    kevin's an OP character, he's strong regardless of what you choose. Personally, i chose him as a monk. He can not only dish out massive amounts of damage, but can full heal the entire party.

    • @pedroaires35
      @pedroaires35 4 года назад +1

      Kevin best boi. My favourite and I already played with all of them. Second is Angela, the third is anyone..... Doesn't really matter that much

    • @Berek71182
      @Berek71182 4 года назад +1

      Kevin is even more OP if you play the original on SNES. Trials of Mana is ez than Seiken Densetzu 3 and several Characters like Angela, Duran and Lise got buffed.

    • @rubensrezende6346
      @rubensrezende6346 4 года назад

      @@Berek71182 Yeah Kevin is(was) a ridiculous monster, love him ever in main party. And I feel that in the original when became night he became just invencible.

    • @nesoukkefka1741
      @nesoukkefka1741 4 года назад

      @@Berek71182 Angela and Duran are definitly the biggest buff out of all the character between original and remake, Angela was arguably the worst character in the original and Duran wasn't really bad but he was just outclass, in term of spells Light Charlotte was basically Light and Dark Duran fuse in the original making her able to replace him with no problems and Kevin and Hawkeye were outclassing him in term of damage due to their ability to double hit.

    • @DiscusvissenRocken
      @DiscusvissenRocken 2 года назад

      @@rubensrezende6346 was? He still is a ridiculous monster lol. Even in his supposedly weakest class he is still a wrecking ball

  • @likeyouization
    @likeyouization 4 года назад +10

    I find Light/Light Kevin path to be the best postgame class ("soloed" Dark Rabbite at level 75 since you can very easily spam CS'es), used Light/Dark to get to postgame. Light Path gets access to Pressure Point and this buff alone pretty much makes him rival Dark path damage. And the AoE class strike Monk gets is amazing.

    • @dyztroyax4628
      @dyztroyax4628 2 года назад +2

      Fatal Fist is obviously the strongest.

    • @MajWinters100
      @MajWinters100 9 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@dyztroyax4628 Yeah. 10 secs invicibility is no joke + up to 30%hp heal on each enemy killed (up to 60%, post game)

  • @TaeWolf
    @TaeWolf 4 года назад +17

    If I had to choose 1 class for each character, it would be, Edelfrei, Grand Diviner, Fatal Fists, Ninja Master, Necromancer and Star Lancer. I think these are the best overall, but ultimately it will depend on your party composition.

    • @dyztroyax4628
      @dyztroyax4628 2 года назад

      I agree 100%. Ive read in the comments that fenrir knights debuffs result in more damage than starlancers buffs, but Im not sure thats right.

  • @rsat9526
    @rsat9526 4 года назад +10

    Angela's Grand Diviner is absolute beast. Lucent Beam is definitely better than Magus Ancient Curse due to the fact that it has really quick cast time. You can probably cast 3x Lucent beams+ by the time Ancient curse starts to rain down on the enemies. Ancient Curse is very strong but definitely not stronger than 3x Lucent Beams+ and the flexibility to move around more freely.

    • @rsat9526
      @rsat9526 4 года назад

      @@CenKyne and you can kill her as fast using 3x lucent beam (she got weakness to Light so may be 2x if you have the right set up)​ and have easier time not having to worry about being interrupted. Save the cast interupt ability for some other thing.

    • @rsat9526
      @rsat9526 4 года назад

      Btw I beat her hardmode in 39 sec on my first playthrough using Angela Duran Kevin so she doesnt even get much support from the team either.. I basically spam Lucent beam non stop doing nothing else in phase 2. Had I know she would be this broken I would have put Charlotte Necromancer or probably Warlock and Ninjamaster Hawk (weakness chain ability)​ in for more dmg and probably be faster than this.

    • @TheNightOwl11683
      @TheNightOwl11683 4 года назад

      Also with Grand Diviner, you can pretty much spam spells with the right setup & never worry about MP. Once you reach her Class 4, you can make her an MP battery for the entire team. With Duran, Rietz, & Angela, I was never running out of MP once I beat the Crimson Wizard. Beating the Black Rabitte makes her completely OP with the Infinite MP skill.

    • @RicochetForce
      @RicochetForce 4 года назад +1

      Yup, people keep masturbating about Magus but that class is actually garbage (skills, chain skills) outside of Int and Ancient Curse. Spells like Lucent Beam+, Spike Freeze+, Explode+, or even Doppleganger go off faster than Ancient Curse and wipe things out. As you said, controlling Angela you can motherfucking SPAM Lucent Beam+ and bosses with multiple parts die super fast. That's before buffs, before debuffs, it's dumb.

    • @e12agent
      @e12agent 4 года назад

      Agreed, and there's lots of holy weak enemies in the game

  • @zerogold8717
    @zerogold8717 4 года назад +13

    Kevin = Fatal Fist, Riesz = Starlancer, Hawkeye Nightblade
    Insane comp, try it out!

    • @JohnDoe-pc1qf
      @JohnDoe-pc1qf 4 года назад +3

      Can confirm. Destroyed the game on hard, even the secret superboss was a joke.

    • @KrimsonKracker
      @KrimsonKracker 3 года назад

      @@JohnDoe-pc1qf Try "Expert" and "No Future" difficulties now.

    • @JohnDoe-pc1qf
      @JohnDoe-pc1qf 3 года назад +1

      @@KrimsonKracker Thanks, will do as soon as I find the time.

    • @dyztroyax4628
      @dyztroyax4628 2 года назад

      Nightblade is straight up D tier.
      Using the same team, except I have Angela instead of Hawkeye, which is, of course, a far superior combination.

  • @wrath_the_bloody
    @wrath_the_bloody 2 года назад +5

    "We're going full dark path with her".....*chooses light path Necromancer*.....no one saw that.

  • @beastslayer8729
    @beastslayer8729 4 года назад +26

    Duelist is actually a pretty bad class for Duran. Edelfrei is significantly better due to its party cast of Saber Magic and access to Moon and Leaf Saber that can restore HP and MP respectively. Duelist only gives him Dark Saber, and not very many monsters are weak to dark magic. His outfit is definitely better with Duelist though. XD

    • @fairydust1397
      @fairydust1397 4 года назад +1

      His passives are shit in comparison too

    • @RicochetForce
      @RicochetForce 4 года назад +3

      Nope, Edelfrei's look is one of Duran's best. Duelist looks like a mediocre side-step from Gladiator in terms of looks.

    • @beastslayer8729
      @beastslayer8729 4 года назад

      RicochetForce honestly I just dig the skull hat.

    • @nesoukkefka1741
      @nesoukkefka1741 4 года назад +2

      @@RicochetForce They are both cool, Duelist look more like a Savage warrior while Eldeifrei has a samurai kind of outfit.

    • @calangel
      @calangel 4 года назад +2

      The passives on the Edelfrei are better than Duelist, and he can potentially outdamage the Duelist due to them. I'm not sure why he would suggest Duelist over Edelfrei...
      Speaking of that, same thing goes for all of the male characters. The passives on the DL path are better and I feel like they pair better with the final class and scope of use with those characters.

  • @alyannaleuterio5222
    @alyannaleuterio5222 4 года назад +3

    Angela light light full crit, damage. Charlotte dark dark full debuffs/support, duran dark dark debuff support. Crit kevin buffs class seed, reisz all party magic buff class seed,sahagin magic chip, crit oil, eyes debuff can kill Anise hard mode in less than 20 seconds.

  • @Ambaryerno
    @Ambaryerno 4 года назад +5

    Magus Angela + Black Rabbite Ability = Unlimited Ancient Curse. Pretty much as close as the game has to an "I Win" button.

    • @DiscusvissenRocken
      @DiscusvissenRocken 2 года назад +1

      I prefer gran diviner lucent beam+ spamming 😜 i can just jump around and insta-cast nuke everyting to hell with that

    • @dyztroyax4628
      @dyztroyax4628 2 года назад

      Ancient Curse is kinda trash tho. As said above, lucent beam+ spamming blows that out of the water.

  • @lrd233
    @lrd233 4 года назад +2

    First party : Kevin warrior monk ( damage+healing , his last combo is killer) riez Fenrir knight ( cool outfit+summon) Angela Magus( massive non elemental damage further enhanced by party hp drain ability) very good party especially when you get tier 3 classes .
    Current party : Duran as liege ( good damage , tanking with provoke and decent healing ) ,Hawkeye as ninja master ( his magic skills are not that impressive , I should turn him to light for more damage) and Angela as light /light( not that impressive also , I prefer her as Magus )

    • @rubensrezende6346
      @rubensrezende6346 4 года назад +1

      Agree 100% dude, exacly the same firts play.
      I try the Dragon Master for Riesz, but don't recomend, Fenrir knight is better in my oppinion. And still not shure what to do with Hawkeye... Ninja master AoE debuff look's really nice.

    • @lrd233
      @lrd233 4 года назад

      @@rubensrezende6346 ninja master gets very strong mostly at magic damage at tier 3 and 4 with some passive skills . He is not Angela but they synergise very well

    • @rubensrezende6346
      @rubensrezende6346 4 года назад +1

      @@lrd233 Yep and he is very nice for cleaning normal monsters, farm and greeding is just nice with ninja master.

    • @nesoukkefka1741
      @nesoukkefka1741 4 года назад +1

      @@lrd233 He also can deal respectable physical damage with Sabers spells (or Claws items) and the 2 Weak Point ability he get as Ninja Master, and can build his CS really fast with Ninja SP + I and II, he get 12% CS per hit of his spells with them, and since his Fire and Water hits 3 times it's 36% CS for 1 ennemy, but since they are multi-target this actually becomes 36% per target, on bosses with Multiple Targettable part this can get pretty nuts, if a boss have 3 targetable part he gets 102% CS back with just 1 cast, and his CS3 can stunlock the targetted ennemy, so use the trick to switch characters before throwing the CS3 and hammer poor victime with another character while Hawkeye is stunning it, best on bosses since it stunned the bosses it will also expand the time when they Stagger where you deal Double Damage, maybe not optimal but so fun to do XD

    • @dyztroyax4628
      @dyztroyax4628 2 года назад

      Grand Divina outdamages Magus tho?

  • @10vitesse
    @10vitesse 4 года назад +3

    Super debatable

  • @Bullminator
    @Bullminator 4 года назад +2

    Well for start its a good idea to have a healer. (so you dont have to spam healing items all the time due to stupid ai)
    After you finish game for 1.st time and get 300 more xp skill, you can start another game with new lvl 1 characters and you should hit 99 just before final boss in game (bonus one) without cleaning mobs to much. Just be sure you save some ??? seeds so you can re-class to second class as soon as you hit 38.

  • @NathanWubs
    @NathanWubs 4 года назад +4

    Light side kevin gets an aoe attack from the start. Aoe is good for mobing, and you do a lot of mobing in this game. As others also have said it still then depends on your party composition. If you need x or y in your party composition then it's better to change that party composition.

    • @nesoukkefka1741
      @nesoukkefka1741 4 года назад +1

      Not to mention Divine Fist is the ultimate Class Strike spam classes XD

  • @Bluzlbee
    @Bluzlbee 2 года назад

    SD3 veteran here (old game), my best team I ever had that makes game super easy, was Rieze starlancer (meteorite), Duran (Sabre buffs), and Kevin as DPS (dark path)

  • @alextalbain9269
    @alextalbain9269 3 года назад +1

    I would argue that enlightenment Kevin is better than fatal fist because when I play him, my HP rarely goes below 30% and even when he does my other members heal him immediately. Plus you're invincible at the start of the battle which is helpful in the Experience department since you get bonus EXP for taking no damage. I also prefer fire over lighting, but that's just my taste.

  • @HotWiredMedia
    @HotWiredMedia Год назад +1

    So given both this video and your previous video about team comps, what would be the best builds for each character's abilities?

  • @imaisema8859
    @imaisema8859 8 месяцев назад

    Duran 0:29
    Kevin 1:11
    Hawkeye 1:46
    Riesz 2:14
    Charlotte 2:36
    Angela 3:16

  • @fairydust1397
    @fairydust1397 4 года назад +3

    Edelfrei, Magus, Light Angela, Warlock(necro to a lesser extent depending on team), Sage, Divine Fist, Enlightened, Nomad, Dark Hawk, Star Lancer. This are the best overall. You didn't put much thought into this video...
    Liege is amazing for Magus and that's it.

  • @dyztroyax4628
    @dyztroyax4628 2 года назад +1

    Easy.
    Duran: Edelfrei
    Angela: Grand Diviner
    Kevin: Fatal Fist
    Charlotte: high cleric
    Hawkeye: Rogue
    Riesz: Starlancer
    It saddens me that Edelfrei is Durans only really useful class. Paladin would be an amazing tank. In fact, it is. But its too good for this game. Nothing in the game challenges the Paladins survivability. Trials of Mana heavily favors damage focused builds over defensive ones. Duelist is fine, except why the hell would you ever pick duelist? Edelfrei gets all its amazing saber abilities and buffs and Duelist gets.. dark saber. Barely a handful of enemies in the game are weak to dark. Duelist isnt even noticably stronger than Edelfrei or anything, especially once Edelfreis skills are applied. It has a cool skull hat but thats about it.
    Grand Diviner, in most situations, slightly outclasses Magus. Both Doppelganger and Ancient Curse arent worth the casting time, ancient curse bearing the exception that it can nuke the 3 or 4 very large bosses that have multiple targets, yet that can still be outclassed by taking advantage of weaknesses using Grand Diviner. A similar situation to Paladin, it is a nice bonus, but not something that is at all needed or provides a lasting advantage.
    Kevins Fatal Fist class absolutely wrecks everything with raised crit chance combined with saber magic or a buffing partner. He punches and hits hard. And Fatal Fist plays into that the best. Boy, does he hit hard as Fatal Fist.
    Riesz' only very good class is starlancer. Unlike Fenrir Knight or Dragon Master, her buffing abilities arent easily replaced using items. On top of that her buffs last the entire duration of a battle. Combine her buffs with enemy debuffing items and your Kevin or Angela will melt anything. Riesz other classes dont manage to climb beyond c tier.
    Hawkeyes Nightblade and Nomad are, unfortunately, completely useless and outclassed by others who fulfill similar roles. Rogue with Grumpkin is very solid and strong, although that is all it has going for it and Ninja Master is great in a magic dominant party, paired with Angela, able to soften enemies up for Angela to nuke. Hawkeye is much more of a caster with alright physical attack than he is a physical fighter with some utility spells, like you would probably think at first sight. But Hawkeye isnt S tier material. He just isnt.
    Charlotte as high cleric heals potently, can even overheal your party members, providing HP beyond their maxes, but, again, nothing in the game really challenges her healing abilities, so high cleric is more or less a wasted party slot that should be filled with Riesz or Edelfrei Duran who are, somewhat counterintuitively, among of the best healers in the game due to putting many skill points into spirit, which makes them potent poto oil users. This provides all the healing you will ever need on top of them also fulfilling their roles as exceptional support characters which Charlotte can be, at best, rather meh at doing. So you dont have to endure her voice acting if you dont want to.
    This is just the information I gathered enjoying more or less a dozen playthroughs of this game, having had a blast every time. Its perfectly possible to argue that something else may be better in such and such situations, but this is about whats optimal.
    Done.

  • @coffybloffy4566
    @coffybloffy4566 3 года назад

    I Loved how fast things with Angelas AOE spells

  • @johnaskins638
    @johnaskins638 3 года назад

    For Angela the single target route also gives buffs against bosses by I believe 20% more damage. The aoe route gives buffs against normal mobs, so there is that to consider too.

    • @DiscusvissenRocken
      @DiscusvissenRocken 2 года назад

      Yeah but she doesn't get grand diviner's 25% limit break ability, a far shittier class strike (grand diviner boomerang spiral is angies best class strike by far while the Archmageclass strike is her worst class strike) and a useless ultimate spell (doppelganger is FAR better than glitterdust). Aside from judge which you get in class 4 anyways no matter which road you pick there is no reason at all to pick Archmage over Grand Diviner

    • @nesoukkefka1741
      @nesoukkefka1741 2 года назад

      @@DiscusvissenRocken Archmage get Elemental Combo II with the first Judgement it more than make up for the lack of Limit Break II :
      Grand Diviner with Limit Break II and Elemental Combo I
      +25% then +30% then +35%.... all the way to +55%
      Archmage with Judge and both Elemental Combo :
      +20% then +35% then +50%.... all the way to +70%
      Archmage damage increase by using the same elemental spell is better as soon as the second cast, and both get Limit Break III and Judge II in Class 4 so Archmage is still better in Class 4.
      No reason to use Doppleganger honnestly due to the slow cast time and you're fucking Angela why would you use Class Strike instead of spamming your spells ?

  • @Nyrufa
    @Nyrufa 21 день назад

    Running a Fatal Fist Kevin, Duelist Duran and High Cleric Charlotte for my No Future attempt. Can not get past Tainted Soul, because of his AoE spams, and constant teleportation.

  • @Magician2086
    @Magician2086 4 года назад +6

    On my 1st run I made Angela a Mysticist and then a Rune Seer. On my 2nd run I made her a Sorceress and then a Grand Diviner. My conclusion is this:
    Oh boy I was so damn wrong to think her Dark side was better because it's not. Mysticist is so bad for the middle game, Sorceress is two times or even three times better. Being stuck with only lv1 spells si not a good thing. Sure you get Dark Force but Lucent Beam is more useful because there's a lot more ennemies that are weak to light compared to those who are weak to Dark, plus having lv2 spells that are strong and fast really help a lot for this part of the game. The more you go to endgame, the more you'll use Light spells. Then okay Rune Seer has lv3 spells that can inflict status and has the Death spell that OKO any mob under the level of Angela(also bypassing shields). But Rune Seer has too much problems. Lv3 spells cost too much, are single target and cast time is too slow, you can get interrupted really easily. And some mobs are immune to the Death spell(not many but still). Grand Diviner has lv2 aoe spells that cost less mp and cast time is really quick. By the time you've cast Stone Cloud for example, you've cast two Earthquakes(which means 200+200=400 against 350). Plus Grand Diviner is way better than Rune Seer at managing mp.

    • @Takkunda
      @Takkunda 4 года назад

      The problem is you went rune seer which is just garbage. ancient curse actually breaks the game.
      I did angela, hawkeye and charlotte and while mid game was a struggle at times, I just ended up spamming ancient curse once I hit level 3. also IIRC if you do the kevin / charlotte you definitely want more light spells because of all the undead.

    • @cht5001
      @cht5001 4 года назад +2

      @@Takkunda doppelganger power is equivalent to ancient curse and her passive are better and lucient beam+ can be casted 3x faster than dopple and ancient curse. Does ancient curse and dopple do 3xthe damage? No they do not. Plus when you 4th class her from diviner your spells ignore elemental resistance which further makes her light light path EVEN MORE INSANE. You can kill Anise on Hard under 20 seconds just angela i just did it dude she absolutely insane lucien beam+ spam 65% crit rate and 45% magic at k bonuses from passive. Angela dark side is a trap for real

    • @covenant6039
      @covenant6039 4 года назад

      @@cht5001 excuse me, but so what is Archmage inferior to Grand Diviner?

    • @cht5001
      @cht5001 4 года назад

      @@covenant6039 underwhelming passive, no insta .5 cast time delete everything on screen. Pretty much everything I listed above. Their doppelganger move is pretty much the same but thr same can be said about ancient curse. Grand Diviner is the best class in the game and by far Angela's best. She doesn't even need a team with it i beat Anise in 16 seconds on hard mode on the hardest challenge. Thats how crazy it is. Along the way she 1 shot every single group of mobs on the way there

    • @cht5001
      @cht5001 4 года назад

      @@covenant6039 the biggest drawback of Archmage vs grand divine is you lose out on Pinpoint II (+25%) CRIT RATE and Limit Break II (+25% raw magic damage) is what makes it worse. Its general spellcasting even though her ult is solid a good ult isn't what makes angela nuts. Insane spellcasting and consistent raw damage is what makes Angela nuts and Grand Diviner is better at it then any other class by a huge margin

  • @nesoukkefka1741
    @nesoukkefka1741 4 года назад +5

    I actually prefer Ninja Master over Nightblade for Hawkeye, his AoE jutsus just allow to clean mob fight in no time, and the debuff effect make ennemis pretty much make ennemy unable to damage you. He actually work well as a caster with the 2 weak point ability and chain ability provide you know the ennemies weakness they won't live long. Also his AoE jutsus hit all targetable parts for boss that have multiple part, and if you pair him with Angela you can give her the Weak Point II ability to increase her damage further.
    For Charlotte her sabers spells in her light classes are actually very good, and totally worth going light. Also sorry but I really see no reason to pick Duelist over Eldeifrei for Duran.

    • @FerrickAnima
      @FerrickAnima 4 года назад

      Duelist has AoE which makes mobbing a lot faster and easier
      but yeah Eldefrei is better

    • @Takkunda
      @Takkunda 4 года назад +1

      I ran hawkeye angela and charlotte. Once I got the cactus thing I didn't bother using aoe anymore only level 4 AoE spam between charlotte and angela.
      Boss fights became meteor spam, and hawkeye became a debuff bot.
      that's why I went DD on all 3 lol

    • @nesoukkefka1741
      @nesoukkefka1741 4 года назад +1

      @@Takkunda You don't get LV4 AoE until later in the game, AoE Jutsu are faster to cast and cheaper than meteor spells, and against bosses that has multiple targetable parts hits all parts my Hawkeye actually outdamage Angela against Dragon Anise because of that XD

    • @rubensrezende6346
      @rubensrezende6346 4 года назад

      Thank you very much!
      You just affim what i was thinkin and now decide the class for my 2nd team.

    • @nesoukkefka1741
      @nesoukkefka1741 4 года назад

      @@rubensrezende6346 One thing I didn't realise back then Ninja Master is also a competent fighter, combine with someone that has Sabers spells with his 2 Weak Point ability he deals good damage, but then give him Ninja SP + I and II and he can build his CS gauge very fast, with these abilities he can gain 12% CS per hit of his spells but since Water and Fire Diversion hit 3 times he gains 36% per targets so on boss that has 3 parts for instance he'll 96% per cast, this is actually quite crazy and allow him to get his CS very often.

  • @andreoliveira2337
    @andreoliveira2337 3 года назад +1

    If you have the necessary item already can you change between class 3 classes of the same type or do you have to reset the character? For exemple can you change Duran in Eldefrei class to the the Duelist class using duelist tag?

  • @user-qh2ve2xi9j
    @user-qh2ve2xi9j 4 года назад +2

    kevin always on my team (light light) or (dark dark)

  • @saycosphere4343
    @saycosphere4343 4 года назад

    my coposition was Kevin(annahilator path) physical damage, Angela(mystic queen path) magic damage and Riezs(meteorite path) buffs. playing on hard. well theres tons of healing item anyway.

    • @Ambaryerno
      @Ambaryerno 4 года назад

      Honestly, assuming you even NEED healing.

    • @DiscusvissenRocken
      @DiscusvissenRocken 4 года назад

      @@Ambaryerno ikr XD with Angie AND Kevin in one team and Riesz to buff them up for even more ouchies ^_^ though early on ANgie is a bit of a weakling but boy ohh boy once she gets all the good stuff... i pretty much solo'd Anise's stockade on hard with Angie murdering everything before my party could even get to the mobs ^_^ and poor poor enemies if you get the lil' cactus ability XD that one is just broken beyond belief, especially if you got Kevin in your squad!

  • @MrVariant
    @MrVariant 4 года назад +1

    1:12 no mention of pressure point as a light monk? I used that with Kevin to make him know *hokuto shinken*, and finally have someone who can use stamina for a good move, so that'd be a point to go light. Don't speak in absolutes ;) spirit for healing as well as quicker class strike absorption for bosses with mobs.
    2:48 Charlotte can heal party regardless of light/dark. That's why strict healer is useless, as it's like icing (which you said 2:56 ), let alone Kevin and Duran (lol Kevin Durant) can do that if you go light too, should you need an mp bank.

    • @ronwisegamgee
      @ronwisegamgee 4 года назад +1

      Does Charlotte get party healing when going dark?

    • @FerrickAnima
      @FerrickAnima 4 года назад +1

      Ronwise Gamgee she learns healing light ++ regardless of path, only difference is the amount of HP healed

  • @Furieas
    @Furieas 4 года назад +1

    Get Angela Grand Div. with Light beam+. You have activated easy mode. Spam aoe and full moon all the way. I am a believer now.

    • @DiscusvissenRocken
      @DiscusvissenRocken 2 года назад

      No kidding 😜 you can pretty much solo Anises dungeon and get a very easy hard mode Anise kill with Grand DivinerAngela, especially if you get the black rabite ability before you go vs Anise.

    • @veghesther3204
      @veghesther3204 3 месяца назад

      I tried that but to not ACTUALLY die in 1 hit and still beat Anise in under 2 minutes I actually NEEDED A LV 99 party..

  • @scholargrizz7071
    @scholargrizz7071 4 года назад +3

    Y'all are acting like this game isn't stompable with no deaths even on hard mode, with any composition at all. Maybe the black rabite might give you some trouble, but personally that's the only fight I've ever wiped on in 3 playthroughs... and I always fight him before the 4th job. Just pick the jobs that look and sound the coolest.

    • @JohnDoe-pc1qf
      @JohnDoe-pc1qf 4 года назад

      Can confirm. But to me, it is most fun to play as efficient as possible and min/max and stuff, you know? Still, the Black Rabite fight was disappointing. It was over before it really started...

  • @jasondp3546
    @jasondp3546 4 года назад +2

    This game good for new ppl to series?

    • @jcapo5
      @jcapo5 4 года назад

      Yes go buy

  • @horacionivar2869
    @horacionivar2869 3 года назад

    im new to this game, what would u do if u have duran, angela and riesz like he suggested?

    • @horacionivar2869
      @horacionivar2869 3 года назад

      which classes would u choose in that team comp?

    • @DiscusvissenRocken
      @DiscusvissenRocken 2 года назад +1

      @@horacionivar2869 Duran either edelfrei (good dmg, elemental sabers and sublime synargy with Angela) or liege (group healing and good at tanking). Angela i'd pick grand diviner (insane power without drawbacks like slow cast time meaning superior mobility plus stronger Light magic which is FAR more useful than dark magic which HEALS most enemies late game instead of killing them...dark magic is useless late game) and on riesz star lancer (group buffing) . Can't lose with that combo.

  • @rubensrezende6346
    @rubensrezende6346 4 года назад

    Don't agree with many points, but it's just my opinion btw.
    For Kevin particulary I like to go for warrior monk, it's prery strong not much as possible but still doing pretty nice damage, has a very nice area heal and tank is not bad. It's a fighter and healer very good in both.
    As Rise(Riesz ) I go for Fenrir Knight, at the 4th class she can lose 70 defense and gain 70 of pure damage, and the abilities are (Chain Ability) like a bonus. Is not a support but that does realy big damage/diference in the party.
    Angela is no doubt for the Magus (and was in that point I lost credibility in the video guy, he just say that magus is not good AoE lol, did u see that meteors?!?!), I literaly kill Anise last form with 4 or 5 of that magic, it`s a ridiculous damage area.
    The other 3 I'm plaing now, thinkin with class gonna got... Not shure about this but think for Duran i will go for Edelfrei, Hawk I'd like very much the area debuff of Ninja master, but the Nightblade look realy nice too, and for Charlotte i realy don`t got a good idea but have the item for Sage so...

    • @dyztroyax4628
      @dyztroyax4628 2 года назад

      Magus' ancient curse in most situations isnt worth the casting time and costs you damage. Grand Divina is a better AoE caster.

    • @lucynatas8458
      @lucynatas8458 Год назад

      Then u gotta go back and play again fetal fist and angela grand diviner bcz its much much better angela u never run out og mana and u can spam lucent light 3x time in the time u cast ur curse and u can do soo much 10x more damage in the time u do with curse and u can spam it soo frequently its insane u just have to stand and press button she can solo the entire game just with that

  • @kohakusora7474
    @kohakusora7474 4 года назад +1

    So apparently Rogue, the worst Hawkeye class in the original, is now his best class cuz he can nuke all enemies with Grumpkin. And Nightblade now sucks cuz bosses can't be afflicted with status ailments. Sigh.

    • @boxxx903
      @boxxx903 4 года назад +1

      Lol what? Who the fuck told you that?

    • @boxxx903
      @boxxx903 4 года назад

      Nightblade is BROKEN man, wdym?

    • @kohakusora7474
      @kohakusora7474 4 года назад

      @@boxxx903 I love Nightblade. But apparently I've seen tier list and videos of his other classes. Rogue was the worst in the original but apparently now in the remake, throwing grumpkins kills all enemies and transforming them into lvl 1 shellfish can make it do even more damage even up to 999999 damage. I'm not joking. Also, nightblade can't put status effects on bosses so he can't do more damage to them. He can debuff but that's mostly it. Like I said, I love him but apparently everyone says the light path is better than the dark path now. Although, Splite Slash is hands down his best class strike.

    • @RicochetForce
      @RicochetForce 4 года назад

      @@kohakusora7474 This is incorrect. Nightblade > Rogue.
      Nothing Rogue does outdoes Nightblade. Stacking his weakness exploits, his crits, and pairing him with Light Charlotte (for Sabers) and Riesz (for buffs) makes him do absurd amounts of DPS. He has the fastest melee strikes in the game by far, and seeing him melt evaporate enemies with basic attacks is more than enough. Outside of completely unfun broken shit like LL or DD Angela vomiting Lucent Beams+ (she can cast two, almost three in the time it takes for AC to go off) or Ancient Curse, he's ridiculous.
      His light path really doesn't play to his strengths.

    • @TenchiHawkwing
      @TenchiHawkwing 4 года назад +1

      Honestly, Grumpkin isn't that great if you ask me. If you were to go the light path with Hawkeye I highly suggest Nomad for the crit buff and crit damage alone.

  • @BeardedKenyan
    @BeardedKenyan Год назад

    Bold of you to think im not giving Rise cat ears.

  • @ianesgrecia8568
    @ianesgrecia8568 3 года назад

    Necromancer? Please. Fetid breath ís better then any summon

  • @foamingclean596
    @foamingclean596 4 года назад +1

    Wait, does anything on dark path for Angela even come close to Lucent Beam +?

    • @willkearney5716
      @willkearney5716 4 года назад +2

      Ancient curse summons meteor from ff7 lol

    • @CKnightZero
      @CKnightZero 4 года назад +2

      Because of Wound and Wound Magic All Magus gets a huge boost to her damage. This boost makes Ancient basically kill bosses in just two or three castings. Her tier 1 spells hit like trucks as well (albiet none have the same range as Lucent Beam+).
      Basically, Magus/ Spellbinder=Boss Killer, Grand Divina/ Mystic Queen= Mob Killer. I tend to use Magus/ Spellbinder for the post game since with Cactus Soul anyone with a Lvl 2 AOE Class strike can wipe mob groups (in my case, Warrior Monk/ Beast King Kevin).

    • @dyztroyax4628
      @dyztroyax4628 2 года назад

      No, nothing does

  • @vvolfflovv
    @vvolfflovv 3 года назад

    Hawkeye following the rogue route was doing 5-8k AOE damage per pumpkin bomb at basically zero mp cost with my build. Nothing else quite touched that one for me.

    • @dyztroyax4628
      @dyztroyax4628 2 года назад

      Grand Divina Angela blows that out the water easily.

    • @vvolfflovv
      @vvolfflovv 2 года назад

      @@dyztroyax4628 That's definitely another part of my ultimate team since Holy can be essential at times.

  • @magnedeusfenrir9582
    @magnedeusfenrir9582 4 года назад +1

    Was gonna go light light Duran, dark dark Riesz, dark dark charlotte. i honestly don't know if that's a good combo or not.

    • @brunobollati
      @brunobollati 4 года назад

      well... u had 2 debuffers, Riez is better with light dark, at least i think, with the other 2. duran dark light i think is best (no need for 2 healers, and sabers on all team members are amazing)

    • @nesoukkefka1741
      @nesoukkefka1741 4 года назад +1

      @@brunobollati Riesz is actually better as a debuffer in fact she is the best debuffer in the game, Fenrir Knight with both Super Stat Down and Bad Luck can reduce defense by 39%, doesn't sound much but with how the damage formula works it translate to a 64% damage increase, in comparison Star Lancer can up the physical damage by 53% and magic damage by 48% not only this is a lower damage increase but it require more training point and more abilities to reach it.
      And Fenrir Knight actually works wonder with Charlotte's Warlock class, Riesz provide active debuff while Warlock provide passive debuff both stack and will result in a 46% stat decrease which translate to a 85% damage increase.

    • @brunobollati
      @brunobollati 4 года назад

      @@nesoukkefka1741 nice, i didnt have in consideration that, thank you

    • @dyztroyax4628
      @dyztroyax4628 2 года назад

      Horrible

    • @dyztroyax4628
      @dyztroyax4628 2 года назад

      @@nesoukkefka1741 Wrong. Starlancer far outclasses Fenrir Knight.

  • @zero123alpha6
    @zero123alpha6 3 года назад

    It depends on your party comp. If you have duran, angela and charlotte, you wouldn't want to go duelist, grand divina, and priest, as you wouldnt have any form of debuffs or buffs, and they don't have much synergy.

  • @brookebrothers9883
    @brookebrothers9883 3 года назад

    Magus Angela. Do you need other players?

    • @DiscusvissenRocken
      @DiscusvissenRocken 2 года назад

      If you plan on using wound magic which is a very important part of her damage when rolling magus you do yeah. Now grand diviner with lucent beam plus and black rabite ability on the other hand... no you can pretty much solo nuke your way to gory glory.

    • @dyztroyax4628
      @dyztroyax4628 2 года назад

      Grand Diviner is better?

  • @GodfreyAI
    @GodfreyAI 4 года назад +1

    to be simple: always dark?

  • @biancaarmstrong5097
    @biancaarmstrong5097 4 года назад

    I didn't know Charlotte in her Dark Class is actually good in the remake cause in the original her dark class is bad...also Kevin will always be my favorite character cause light or dark, he brings the pain!

    • @phillipmitchell2254
      @phillipmitchell2254 4 года назад

      Necromancer is her best class in sd3

    • @biancaarmstrong5097
      @biancaarmstrong5097 4 года назад +1

      @@phillipmitchell2254 Yeah, cause she learns Dark Saber, Ghost and Zombie summon and has the spell to debuff the enemy that isn't elemental. So yeah, Charlotte as a Necromancer is amazing!

    • @phillipmitchell2254
      @phillipmitchell2254 4 года назад +1

      @@biancaarmstrong5097 curse is arguably the best skill in the game for boss fights. Putting her on a team with Riesz as a party buffer class and either Kevin or Duran as DPS is virtually unstoppable.

    • @biancaarmstrong5097
      @biancaarmstrong5097 4 года назад +1

      @@phillipmitchell2254 Awesome! That's amazing and super interesting! I love Kevin just how good and broken he is, Riesz being amazing being a buffer in her Light Class and Charlotte as a Necromancer makes this team unstoppable and deadly, I love it! Gotta give it a try!

    • @phillipmitchell2254
      @phillipmitchell2254 4 года назад +1

      @@biancaarmstrong5097 building team as units like that is so much fun, I can't wait to try the remake! 🔥🤩🔥

  • @KogJam21
    @KogJam21 4 года назад

    But is Kevins Godhand not stronger?

  • @kohakusora7474
    @kohakusora7474 4 года назад +1

    What about Rune Seer?

    • @BurnerRebornPokemon
      @BurnerRebornPokemon  4 года назад

      Rune Seer isn't too bad either. If that's you preference you'll be fine.

    • @LS-mb4my
      @LS-mb4my 4 года назад

      Not as good as it could be to be honest. Its passive are really lackluster and bosses, where she'd be most useful, are immune to status effects so she can't get 40% boosted damage from enemies having status effects. It's sadly her weakest tier 3 class despite being the best looking one. Light side can out DPS her with Lucent/Saint Beam spam, and Magus can just use Ancient whenever for a room clear or dabbing on a boss. Rune Seer at least gets some punch with their Tier 3 spells, with stone cloud being notably good especially for clearing trash mobs. Another plus is Rune Seer has an actual AOE Class Strike compared to Magus' single target one that could theoretically hit multiple if everyone lined up perfectly.

    • @kohakusora7474
      @kohakusora7474 4 года назад

      @@LS-mb4my so you prefer Grand Diviner, Archmage, or Magus? Why?

    • @LS-mb4my
      @LS-mb4my 4 года назад

      @@kohakusora7474 To be honest I'd strongly prefer Rune Seer off the look and CS alone, but it gets shafted hard by having the worst passives out of all her classes. Not to mention Death Spell has been reworded and will not do damage anymore period, so you cant use it as a cheese nuke against bosses like in the original.
      As a result it's less "I prefer the other classes" and more "I am pretty unamused over Rune Seer being shafted this hard but moved on to greener pastures"

    • @kohakusora7474
      @kohakusora7474 4 года назад

      @@LS-mb4my but still. Which one of the other 3 would you prefer?

  • @joespivey9104
    @joespivey9104 3 года назад

    I picked the 3 guys ultimate damage

    • @dyztroyax4628
      @dyztroyax4628 2 года назад

      Not at all. That actually sounds kinda bad.

    • @joespivey9104
      @joespivey9104 2 года назад

      I used Duran as my Paladin to heal my group. Hawkeye is my main character for crowds to set traps and then have my berserk Warrior for maximum damage and yes it is good

  • @Peteveneno
    @Peteveneno 4 года назад

    nice video, but you are so mad!!!, you tell us to select Magus path on Angela, but the video show you selecting Rune Seer xD

    • @DiscusvissenRocken
      @DiscusvissenRocken 4 года назад

      Angie is good in any class though imo she truly is a monster in grand divina due to her mana regen + AoE Lucent Beam (sure, we get black rabite ability later but by that time she has plenty of mp to get a full restore after oneshotting almost everything with AoE Lucent beam since the majority of enemies are weak to light magic at which Grand Divina excells and she has a better ability than archmage) sure Magus has ancient curse but mobs often dodge that and doppelganger, but AoE Lucent Beam?? nope ^_^ and the majority of the end game mobs and Anise are weak to light as well for even more dmg for a instant cast instead of the long time it takes to cast ancient or doppelganger. rune seer has the coolest look but imo grand divina is her best class, even better than magus. but you can never go wrongh with Angie ^_^ all her classes are good enough to dish out some magical death, and the same goes for Kevin :P

  • @SigismundSonOfDorn
    @SigismundSonOfDorn 4 года назад

    Duran Duran

  • @jamesrucker6124
    @jamesrucker6124 4 года назад

    I played this a long long time ago. best team is Duran, kevin and Angela. pick the Duelist for duran. rune master for angela and the Godhand for Kevin

    • @RicochetForce
      @RicochetForce 4 года назад

      Best team is Angela, Charlotte and Riesz. And all Reisz and Charlotte provide there is passive and active debuffs s Angela can exploit it. You only need one damage dealer.
      You only need Angela for damage. Stupidly broken character.