Outstanding video. I’ve been using my VLX3 for a couple years in both solo shows and limited use with my band. A few things I’ve noticed on my VLX3 journey. Getting started on this is easier if you have an application for it. Mine was to replace an old harmonizer and out of the box, it pretty much does that, but I’ve wanted to use more of the guitar processing available. If you wish to go any further, it’s off to the RUclips rabbit hole to try & learn from the “experts”. My biggest gripe with even the true experts from TC-Helicon is they show you “what” it can do, but they rarely show you “how” to program it to do what it can do and fill space with unnecessary commentary, inside jokes and overuse of the products vocal features with over educated song lyrics that won’t get flagged on RUclips. You explained both, and even prefaced topics in the beginning of the video by explaining what topics you were going to cover, so thank you! @TC-Helicon - Take notice. This is how it’s done. Sorry this turned into TCH bashing post, but I would have to imagine I’m not the only one who finds their “educational” material uninspiring. I do love the product, we just need more videos like this from the manufacturer to learn how to use features and not just what it can do.
@@rickpom1 Thankyou Rick. This is the best comment on my channel so far! I appreciate your words because I do have the user in mind with all my videos. Even with the guitar tutorials I try to tell the viewer how I’m thinking as well which I think helps. Yes I went down that rabbit hole as well. There seems to be a little bit of a ego in the videos from TC helicon. More interested in trying to come across funny than giving valuable tips. You are not the first person to mention they got more out of this video than theirs. I am by no means as much of an expert as them of course so maybe it’s easier for people to understand if it’s a bit simpler and perhaps more practical. But after getting a bit of hate lately, it’s nice to know that people like you are getting something out of it. So thank you.
Hi Todd I've stumbled onto your youtube tutorials just in time, I'm like yourself, a solo perfomer for 30 years. I live in a very small bush town with no other muso's to jam along and learn with so MIDI has been my choice of accompliment since 1991. All of my MIDI programs are XP based and now that the old computers have died and gone to heaven I can't load my XP CD's on windows 10, the running system won't acknowledge the software so I'm stuck in a hard place. So my new learning curve is changing to a macpro and recording all my 180 MIDI songs to mp3 (I'm using CUBASE) and it converts them to mp3 really well. I have the TCHelicon voice live 3 on order (out of stock in NSW Australia) due in this month May, I can see hours and hours of work infront of me but with the availabilty of your great youtube tutorials I will be following your advice to a TEE. I normally use any key on my midi keybpoard to insert a midi note when recording the song and my lyrics attach to these notes. Is there a tap (on the mouse pad) option with BandHelper? Or how do you time your lyrics, I watched and it seems you just use auto scroll? Is that correct? Regards Allan
Thanks for your message Allan. You will LOVE the unit. Yes there is a big learning curve but just learn what you need to know. You can go down rabbit holes that are a waste of time. But it's all learning. Yes for the lyrics you just put in the duration of the song and it knows based on your screen size where to auto scroll. I'm always here if you run into problems, feel free to ask. All the best Allan. Keep on keeping on. :-)
You earned a subscriber I have Voicelive Play vocals only works and screen flips upside down and backwards looks like Russian words but if it’s no big deal it’s no bid deal function of vocal processing is the game and it does that ……. So I wanna upgrade to either this or the Voicelive touch 2 your video was big help I like the ability to create scenes within scenes for the backing track
Hi, thanks for the tutorial, that will be helpful to many I'm sure. I've had my VL3X for a few months now and have done a lot of work setting it up with all my backing tracks. I am currently in the middle of going through and adding all the automation. I have set up "Song Repertoire" on my MS Surface, with all my songs and MIDI commands. I noticed your 3 individual outputs to the mixer are configured differently to mine. It is something I am interested in learning more about from you. I have tried a bunch of different ways, from the manual, all different to that one. And settled on Vox out of one xlr out and guitar out of the other xlr out with backing track out of both the L&R guitar jacks. The main problem I encountered was getting the "performance recording" mix to sound the same as the main output. It's a real juggling act. I'd love to hear your take on setting up the mix so all matches. If you even use the "performance recording" function. The config that I am using gives me the closest mirroring of the main output to the "performance recording". According to the manual it should be exactly the same but so far that is not my experience. Interested in learning more from you. Cheers!
Hey Ken. Yes I was going to mention my setup in the video but forgot to. Basically I set the mic out of the XLR and guitar out of the jack, as I assume it's supposed to be. For the headphone mix I turn everything off but the tracks. I'm going off memory now because I'm in bed sick but I think if you turn one of the 4 small dials, you'll get the output mix for headphones. I turn the first 3 all the way to the left and off, and the last one is the backing mix. Set it where you want. Try that, it may help with the performance recording but I don't use it. Let me know how you go. Any probs I'll have a closer look. Cheers.
Holy moly. This is far too much to think about for me. When I a, playing live,mi cannot worry about being a computer programmer. I’ll stick with my digital multitrack recorder. All instruments are on its own channel. If someone doesn’t show up, I just raise the fader. They show up? I bring the fader down. Then I simply play to it as if all of the players are playing live with me. No thought process involved other than advancing to the next song. Your video is great for those that want to get this deep into it but for me, I would$ rather put my energy onto the performance rather than worry about the technical stuff all night. I watched the entire video and it’s full of details so, great job there. Just not for me.
@@trusso11783 yes I totally understand. Everyone has their own system. I guess it’s just what you get used to. As a soloist this works great. But you obviously play with other musos and your system is perfect for that. Especially when your lineup is changing a lot. 👍 I will add though that all the programming happens at home, and at the gigs I don’t have to worry about any tap dancing on the pedal board and all my energy goes into the performance because all that thinking has been done.
Hi Todd i have just purchased this unit, i play around with electric acoustic guitar and vocals thats all, i have no idea where to start, you don't do online lessons by any chance? Im in Australia, cheers. Todd
@@Toddcleave Hey Todd. Yeah it’s a learning curve. I learnt from RUclips videos. There’s a few out there from the two guys from tchelicon. They have a lot of info. I can do online lessons but I get asked a lot now so do have to charge a fee. Won’t be much but a couple of lessons and you should be on the right track. But to be honest, I’m not teaching any more that’s freely available on RUclips.
Thanks Phil. It’s similar but no backing tracks or looper. I don’t own one so I couldn’t tell you specifics. But I assume you can customise guitar and vocals.
Hi, thanks for your tutorial. By the way, I can't understand why I can hear my guitar on the amplifier using the VL 3 Extreme but no backing tracks and no microphone. Can you help me, please?
Sir, I've been watching this video and got to the automation section [18:07]...however at the 18:21 mark you say something like 'If I press "hold this'' ' or something like that. I can't see in the video what you're pressing OR really hear what you're saying. Can you clarify what you're pressing & saying there please? Thank you.
Hi Mate, Ricky from sunny Sri Lanka... First a I a quick question, if I send in the full band mix from the mixing board headphone out in to the unit? If so could you do a quick video on the connectivity to the VL3x? And could the unit be setup to identify the key for harmony ? Cause I for ever I have been manually change the key from song to song, when I sing with the band. And thats a heap of stress... I've got good at it but would love to enjoy the freedom 😊 I don't play an instrument. Lead vocals only. Appreciate your response 👍 And Now, a massive THANK YOU to "YOU" for doing this walkthrough on the VL3x... Believe me, there is not a single propper guide like yours on RUclips or on the official TC Helicon site👍TC should send you a big fat cheque mate.... I love TC Helicon product's have 2 other smaller vocal units and have had this unit from the time they released it in NAM many moons ago...However I struggled to get a clear video guide. 🤝Thanks a million mate... This is going to be a lifesaver for many musicians across the globe. Please go deeper in to the unit on both sides. Vocal and Guitar. God bless you! 🤗🤝
Hey Ricky. Thankyou very much for your kind words. :-) Yes I can see how it would be a lot of work to set up every key and chord change if you don't play an instrument. However, if you get a feed from your rhythm player to go directly into the guitar port, you could use the guitar sense functionality to trigger the correct harmonies. Just don't output the guitar. Or keyboards, or whoever your rhythm player is. If you can't get an extra feed from them then you could set up an aux channel from the mixer with just the rhythm going to the VL3X. If you send the full band mix it will be too busy for the unit to identify a triad. Just send the rhythm. In the event by bandmix you mean just a backing track and no rhythm player, I'm not sure it will be accurate. The only possible solution I see is if you pan the main mix to the left for your front of house mix, and use a rhythm track panned hard right, and send that to the VL3X to trigger the harmonies. I hope that helps Ricky. :-)
Pro Muso, please help! How do I connect the VL3X to my drummer's ears for live band situation to stay in synch with automation? And how can he have a click track running without it comming out through the P.A? Please help!
You would have to make the tracks with a click on hard left, and the mix on hard right. Send the click to your drummer and the right channel to the front of house.
@@aljuric5887 you’re very welcome. Feel free to ask more if you have any trouble. Glad to help. I used to do exactly the same thing with a drummer I used to play with. The front of house comes out in mono, but that doesn’t matter. Stereo only works on huge stages.
Yikes. That is an amazing lecture! Bravo! I just use the VL3X in its most simple way in which I record directly to a USB stick inserted into the peddle. A wav file is created which I bring into my recording software on my laptop. I use the final recording of my new song in a RUclips video. Here is an example of the song I wrote and recorded using that approach in honor of the passing of my sister last October. The song is called "One-Way Walk" - ruclips.net/video/uQCH30IAVEQ/видео.html
@@pro_muso Thank you for your reply. I have built my own presets for my live gigs and would like to make a backup (save) of them! I've put a lot of work into it and if for some reason the TC Helicon failed I would have a big problem. But I can't find a description of how to do that anywhere! Many greetings, Werner
@@wernerweimar7649 No problem. If you have a ‘performance’ ie a backing track assigned to a preset you can go into the recording menu (long press on looper button) you will see a menu with the wave form of the track. Navigate to the hidden screen on the left. I think it’s one of the top left buttons to get there. There you will see a USB icon. You need to insert a USB drive, and you can then save the performance. This will save any recording edits you do plus the preset. That is one way to save a preset. If you just want to save the preset and you don’t have any backing tracks, you can go online to a voice live editor. It’s not a TC helicon page, but it is a working fix to save your presets from this device. I don’t know why TC Hicon doesn’t have their own one. They used to. If you can’t find it online, you can search for the Facebook group. I will find the right Name. facebook.com/groups/1286663892210529/ This way you will be able to save all your presets. Also check out the TC helicon voice, live 3 extreme Facebook group. There are some really helpful people there who are experts. Hope this helps. 👍
Hey Pro Muso, great tutorial! Any chance you would be interested in doing some paid 1:1 online lessons with me for VoiceLive3 Extreme? I’ve been struggling with this thing and could really benefit from some 1:1 online tutorials. Please reply to this comment if interested. Thanks in advance!
Outstanding video. I’ve been using my VLX3 for a couple years in both solo shows and limited use with my band. A few things I’ve noticed on my VLX3 journey. Getting started on this is easier if you have an application for it. Mine was to replace an old harmonizer and out of the box, it pretty much does that, but I’ve wanted to use more of the guitar processing available. If you wish to go any further, it’s off to the RUclips rabbit hole to try & learn from the “experts”. My biggest gripe with even the true experts from TC-Helicon is they show you “what” it can do, but they rarely show you “how” to program it to do what it can do and fill space with unnecessary commentary, inside jokes and overuse of the products vocal features with over educated song lyrics that won’t get flagged on RUclips. You explained both, and even prefaced topics in the beginning of the video by explaining what topics you were going to cover, so thank you! @TC-Helicon - Take notice. This is how it’s done. Sorry this turned into TCH bashing post, but I would have to imagine I’m not the only one who finds their “educational” material uninspiring. I do love the product, we just need more videos like this from the manufacturer to learn how to use features and not just what it can do.
@@rickpom1 Thankyou Rick. This is the best comment on my channel so far! I appreciate your words because I do have the user in mind with all my videos. Even with the guitar tutorials I try to tell the viewer how I’m thinking as well which I think helps. Yes I went down that rabbit hole as well. There seems to be a little bit of a ego in the videos from TC helicon. More interested in trying to come across funny than giving valuable tips. You are not the first person to mention they got more out of this video than theirs. I am by no means as much of an expert as them of course so maybe it’s easier for people to understand if it’s a bit simpler and perhaps more practical. But after getting a bit of hate lately, it’s nice to know that people like you are getting something out of it. So thank you.
OMG! I had my VL3X for a year now, with no clue how to use it. I appreciate you.❤
i really appreciate you putting this vid together. TC Helicon should pay you to do their instructional vids.
Thankyou 😊
Finally I found someone who has simplified this for me , thank you very much ❤
You’re very welcome John. 😊
Best walk through on the internet! Thank you so much! I'm looking for your patreon or link to donate!
@@christinewarren9660 oh Thankyou so much. 😊 No need. I’m glad you got some value.
You're a legend brother, you made a guy on the other side of the world in Scotland very happy with this informative video! Thank you!
You are very welcome my friend. Thanks for taking the time to tell me :-) It makes a difference.
Hi Todd I've stumbled onto your youtube tutorials just in time, I'm like yourself, a solo perfomer for 30 years.
I live in a very small bush town with no other muso's to jam along and learn with so MIDI has been my choice of accompliment since 1991.
All of my MIDI programs are XP based and now that the old computers have died and gone to heaven I can't load my XP CD's on windows 10, the running system won't acknowledge the software so I'm stuck in a hard place.
So my new learning curve is changing to a macpro and recording all my 180 MIDI songs to mp3 (I'm using CUBASE) and it converts them to mp3 really well.
I have the TCHelicon voice live 3 on order (out of stock in NSW Australia) due in this month May,
I can see hours and hours of work infront of me but with the availabilty of your great youtube tutorials I will be following your advice to a TEE.
I normally use any key on my midi keybpoard to insert a midi note when recording the song and my lyrics attach to these notes.
Is there a tap (on the mouse pad) option with BandHelper?
Or how do you time your lyrics, I watched and it seems you just use auto scroll? Is that correct?
Regards Allan
Thanks for your message Allan. You will LOVE the unit. Yes there is a big learning curve but just learn what you need to know. You can go down rabbit holes that are a waste of time. But it's all learning.
Yes for the lyrics you just put in the duration of the song and it knows based on your screen size where to auto scroll.
I'm always here if you run into problems, feel free to ask. All the best Allan. Keep on keeping on. :-)
You earned a subscriber I have Voicelive Play vocals only works and screen flips upside down and backwards looks like Russian words but if it’s no big deal it’s no bid deal function of vocal processing is the game and it does that ……. So I wanna upgrade to either this or the Voicelive touch 2 your video was big help I like the ability to create scenes within scenes for the backing track
@@Eddyvnhln5150 you won’t be disappointed. Huge upgrade in functionality. 👍
thank you!!!!!
You're welcome!
Hi, thanks for the tutorial, that will be helpful to many I'm sure. I've had my VL3X for a few months now and have done a lot of work setting it up with all my backing tracks. I am currently in the middle of going through and adding all the automation. I have set up "Song Repertoire" on my MS Surface, with all my songs and MIDI commands. I noticed your 3 individual outputs to the mixer are configured differently to mine. It is something I am interested in learning more about from you. I have tried a bunch of different ways, from the manual, all different to that one. And settled on Vox out of one xlr out and guitar out of the other xlr out with backing track out of both the L&R guitar jacks. The main problem I encountered was getting the "performance recording" mix to sound the same as the main output. It's a real juggling act. I'd love to hear your take on setting up the mix so all matches. If you even use the "performance recording" function. The config that I am using gives me the closest mirroring of the main output to the "performance recording". According to the manual it should be exactly the same but so far that is not my experience. Interested in learning more from you. Cheers!
Hey Ken. Yes I was going to mention my setup in the video but forgot to. Basically I set the mic out of the XLR and guitar out of the jack, as I assume it's supposed to be. For the headphone mix I turn everything off but the tracks. I'm going off memory now because I'm in bed sick but I think if you turn one of the 4 small dials, you'll get the output mix for headphones. I turn the first 3 all the way to the left and off, and the last one is the backing mix. Set it where you want. Try that, it may help with the performance recording but I don't use it. Let me know how you go. Any probs I'll have a closer look. Cheers.
Holy moly. This is far too much to think about for me. When I a, playing live,mi cannot worry about being a computer programmer. I’ll stick with my digital multitrack recorder. All instruments are on its own channel. If someone doesn’t show up, I just raise the fader. They show up? I bring the fader down. Then I simply play to it as if all of the players are playing live with me. No thought process involved other than advancing to the next song.
Your video is great for those that want to get this deep into it but for me, I would$ rather put my energy onto the performance rather than worry about the technical stuff all night. I watched the entire video and it’s full of details so, great job there. Just not for me.
@@trusso11783 yes I totally understand. Everyone has their own system. I guess it’s just what you get used to. As a soloist this works great. But you obviously play with other musos and your system is perfect for that. Especially when your lineup is changing a lot. 👍 I will add though that all the programming happens at home, and at the gigs I don’t have to worry about any tap dancing on the pedal board and all my energy goes into the performance because all that thinking has been done.
Does a list of all presets on the VL3X exist? If so, where can I find it? I've searched everywhere and cannot find one.Thanks! Steve
@@stevealford9681 I think there’s a program called voice live editor. That may have the presets. If not, I’m sure some Facebook groups will help.
So, a quarter inch cable for the guitar out???
It’s not a preamp??
Hi Todd i have just purchased this unit, i play around with electric acoustic guitar and vocals thats all, i have no idea where to start, you don't do online lessons by any chance? Im in Australia, cheers.
Todd
@@Toddcleave Hey Todd. Yeah it’s a learning curve. I learnt from RUclips videos. There’s a few out there from the two guys from tchelicon. They have a lot of info. I can do online lessons but I get asked a lot now so do have to charge a fee. Won’t be much but a couple of lessons and you should be on the right track. But to be honest, I’m not teaching any more that’s freely available on RUclips.
@promuso2121 OK cool cheers, I'll just learn what I need to know, I ain't falling down that rabbit hole
@promuso2121 mate I'd gladly pay you to get me started however much it is.
@@Toddcleave Yeah my best advice would be just keep it simple and stick to what is essential.
Great video. Just purchased TC Helicon Play Acoustic. Can this function as the VLX3 ?
Thanks Phil. It’s similar but no backing tracks or looper. I don’t own one so I couldn’t tell you specifics. But I assume you can customise guitar and vocals.
Great content a masterpiece, thank you very much
Thankyou so much. You're very welcome 🙂
Hi, thanks for your tutorial. By the way, I can't understand why I can hear my guitar on the amplifier using the VL 3 Extreme but no backing tracks and no microphone. Can you help me, please?
It could be a number of things. I would first check your system defaults and how you are outputting each channel.
Sir, I've been watching this video and got to the automation section [18:07]...however at the 18:21 mark you say something like 'If I press "hold this'' ' or something like that. I can't see in the video what you're pressing OR really hear what you're saying. Can you clarify what
you're pressing & saying there please? Thank you.
Oh my apologies mate. Yes it’s the looper button. Press and hold to take you to that screen.
Hi Mate, Ricky from sunny Sri Lanka...
First a I a quick question, if I send in the full band mix from the mixing board headphone out in to the unit? If so could you do a quick video on the connectivity to the VL3x? And could the unit be setup to identify the key for harmony ? Cause I for ever I have been manually change the key from song to song, when I sing with the band. And thats a heap of stress... I've got good at it but would love to enjoy the freedom 😊 I don't play an instrument. Lead vocals only. Appreciate your response 👍
And Now, a massive THANK YOU to "YOU" for doing this walkthrough on the VL3x... Believe me, there is not a single propper guide like yours on RUclips or on the official TC Helicon site👍TC should send you a big fat cheque mate....
I love TC Helicon product's have 2 other smaller vocal units and have had this unit from the time they released it in NAM many moons ago...However I struggled to get a clear video guide. 🤝Thanks a million mate... This is going to be a lifesaver for many musicians across the globe. Please go deeper in to the unit on both sides. Vocal and Guitar. God bless you! 🤗🤝
Hey Ricky. Thankyou very much for your kind words. :-)
Yes I can see how it would be a lot of work to set up every key and chord change if you don't play an instrument. However, if you get a feed from your rhythm player to go directly into the guitar port, you could use the guitar sense functionality to trigger the correct harmonies. Just don't output the guitar. Or keyboards, or whoever your rhythm player is. If you can't get an extra feed from them then you could set up an aux channel from the mixer with just the rhythm going to the VL3X. If you send the full band mix it will be too busy for the unit to identify a triad. Just send the rhythm.
In the event by bandmix you mean just a backing track and no rhythm player, I'm not sure it will be accurate. The only possible solution I see is if you pan the main mix to the left for your front of house mix, and use a rhythm track panned hard right, and send that to the VL3X to trigger the harmonies.
I hope that helps Ricky. :-)
how is it together with the Beatbuddy?
Never used it mate.
Pro Muso, please help! How do I connect the VL3X to my drummer's ears for live band situation to stay in synch with automation? And how can he have a click track running without it comming out through the P.A? Please help!
You would have to make the tracks with a click on hard left, and the mix on hard right. Send the click to your drummer and the right channel to the front of house.
@@pro_muso Hey 2121, thanks so much for that!
@@aljuric5887 you’re very welcome. Feel free to ask more if you have any trouble. Glad to help. I used to do exactly the same thing with a drummer I used to play with. The front of house comes out in mono, but that doesn’t matter. Stereo only works on huge stages.
@@pro_muso 👍🙂👊
Yikes. That is an amazing lecture! Bravo! I just use the VL3X in its most simple way in which I record directly to a USB stick inserted into the peddle. A wav file is created which I bring into my recording software on my laptop. I use the final recording of my new song in a RUclips video. Here is an example of the song I wrote and recorded using that approach in honor of the passing of my sister last October. The song is called "One-Way Walk" - ruclips.net/video/uQCH30IAVEQ/видео.html
Sounds great. Nice guitar picking. Sorry for your loss 😔
@@pro_muso Thanks very much for your kind words about the song and my sister. I really learned a lot from your video.
How do you upload a song to vle3 from band in a box?
Never used it
I would like to know how can I do a update from my sound sets, please can you help me?
Can you be more specific?
@@pro_muso Thank you for your reply. I have built my own presets for my live gigs and would like to make a backup (save) of them! I've put a lot of work into it and if for some reason the TC Helicon failed I would have a big problem. But I can't find a description of how to do that anywhere! Many greetings, Werner
@@wernerweimar7649 No problem. If you have a ‘performance’ ie a backing track assigned to a preset you can go into the recording menu (long press on looper button) you will see a menu with the wave form of the track. Navigate to the hidden screen on the left. I think it’s one of the top left buttons to get there. There you will see a USB icon. You need to insert a USB drive, and you can then save the performance. This will save any recording edits you do plus the preset. That is one way to save a preset. If you just want to save the preset and you don’t have any backing tracks, you can go online to a voice live editor. It’s not a TC helicon page, but it is a working fix to save your presets from this device. I don’t know why TC Hicon doesn’t have their own one. They used to. If you can’t find it online, you can search for the Facebook group. I will find the right Name. facebook.com/groups/1286663892210529/
This way you will be able to save all your presets. Also check out the TC helicon voice, live 3 extreme Facebook group. There are some really helpful people there who are experts. Hope this helps. 👍
@@pro_muso Thank you very much for your help. You helped me a lot and I will get more information in the Facebook group. Best regards
Hey Pro Muso, great tutorial! Any chance you would be interested in doing some paid 1:1 online lessons with me for VoiceLive3 Extreme? I’ve been struggling with this thing and could really benefit from some 1:1 online tutorials. Please reply to this comment if interested. Thanks in advance!
Hey. Yes I could do that. No problem. What country are you in?
I think my reply gets removed when I include my email address- what’s the best way for us to get in touch directly?
I actually just found your website and submitted my details via the „enquiry” form- hopefully this will work🙂
@@teklubiarz8792 Got it. Check your email.
That's a great tutorial! Thanks Pro Muso!! 🎛💙
You’re very welcome. Thanks for commenting. 👍