Tallis - Spem in alium (a 40) - Harry Christophers - Live Concert - HD
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Thomas Tallis: Spem in alium (a 40)
The Sixteen, o.l.v. Harry Christophers
M.m.v Laurenscantorij en gastzangers o.l.v. Wiecher Mandemaker
Opgenomen in de Grote Zaal van de Doelen in Rotterdam op 27 februari 2013
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Thomas Tallis: Spem in alium (a 40)
The Sixteen directed by Harry Christophers
With the Laurenscantorij and guest singers, directed by Wiecher Mandemaker
Recorded in 'de Doelen' in Rotterdam on febuary 27, 2013
Nobody can surpass Tallis and Byrd for sacred Renaissance music. This piece is the pinaccle of excellence, etheral, mesmerising and sublime. So beautifully performed!
Hold the phone! Are you familiar with the masses of Fayrfax? I promise you you'll re-think that opinion (at least with respect to Byrd).
What always amazes me about this piece is the "after glow" when they stop singing and that halo of sound that just hangs in the air for a moment. It's breathtaking.
What a lovely observation ...
I sang this in choir (Lawrence University) - I was the first alto in GROUP EIGHT (probably because as a pianist I was one of the few who could count lol). The live performance was one of the most transcendental experiences of my life.
Брат, это физика!!!))) скорость света быстрее скорости звука-поэтому глаза видят , что рот закрыт, а звук после до уха доходит ))) Знание сила!!!
I shall never forget hearing this 'in the round' at Greyfriars in Edinburgh, an intimate church known for its particularly fine acoustic. As we sat in the pews, the SCO Chorus singers stood in the aisles all around us, and the sound was magnificent, transcendent. Afterwards I don't think anyone's eyes were dry.
I imagine this is the cosmic mass sung by angels, which sustains and upholds the universe.
An avowed atheist but, love your comment, for the pictures it paints. Check out the Sistine Chapel.
The human voice is the absolutely best instrument ever conceived.
Well, maybe next to birdsong.
I can't believe I found this masterpiece thanks to the 50 shades of grey soundtrack when I was 15, thank you EL james ig?
Beautiful. Haunting. Ethereal. Un-earthly. Awe-inspiring. The nearest you'll get to God in this world. The singers did a magnificent job with a piece of music that must be hugely challenging both to sing and conduct. I understand all those who said it reduced them to tears. It did the same thing to me.
I sang this in college 25 years ago. First alto in the 8th group lol (as a pianist they could rely on me to keep track, it's a very dense score). The live performance was one of the most transcendent moments of my life.
Spem in alium (Latin for "Hope in any other") is a 40-part Renaissance motet by Thomas Tallis, composed in c. 1570 for eight choirs of five voices each, widely considered to be the greatest piece of English early music and one of the greatest choral works ever composed.
One of...?
iQuation It is said to have been written for Elizabeth’s fortieth birthday.
@@DrawYourHead yes only one of and this recording is not a good example either. There should be no women's voices at all in this. The treble lines should be sung by boys and the alto lines by men. What we have here is the equivalent of a piece of music intended for a string quartet but now played with a trumpet instead of first violin. Spem in Alium is great but there are other greats, such as William Mundy's Vox Patris Caelestis. Biggest and noisiest is not always best...
Regular Rod You are quite right that there is a huge amount of wonderful polyphonic style music by many composers. Also, the point you make about boy trebles is valid, and not only in music of this period - the very fine masses of Haydn for example are enhanced enormously by the use of boy trebles which allows for a spectacular contrast with the soprano solos where they occur - the tone is very different.
However, by any measure, great or small, Spem in Alium is one of the greatest pieces of music from any age.
@@PolyPropSherry I'll take the women of the Tallis Scholars (and a number of other world-class ensembles who have given remarkable performances of this piece) to shrieking boys any day.
I always feel humbled to the ground when I listen to Thomas Tallis. This piece most of all.
Thank Almighty God for Thomas Tallis!
Angelic voices in human form! I tnink the greatest choral work ever.
as close to heaven's choirs as we can muster.. it's a fair reminder of expectation.. :)
Originally for 40, but very brave of Harry Christophers to have a go with, at my rough count, about 140 voices. Agree with some on here, that it is probably not the epitome of performance but well done him, with this wonderful piece of music.
A work that makes you want to fall an your knees in prayer. Music that is a nightmare to sing and even worse to conduct with the correct balance and tone. Superb. no other word for it!
Sitting in the outback, staring at the stars. pondering about deep stuff,
Me mate turns to me, and asks what music I like.
So I sez that I like old stuff like this
same here pal
yesterday I heard this for the first time of my life. Oh God, It must be the sound of heaven! I couldn't stop crying silently.
Whenever I've experienced a difficult, frantic or traumatic day (which fortunately doesn't happen that often) I play this version of Spem in Alium. Soothing and uplifting.
The second you realise you are in heaven.
A transcendent piece - I remember going to the Cloisters to hear the sound installation of 40 speakers, each playing a close-mic'd recording of one of the singers performing their part. It was an incredibly moving experience, and a testament to the times we live in with regards to how we are used to hearing sound, and yet, quite raised above that status quo in its expert implementation.
So divine, I cannot listen to it without crying.
It always makes me cry. A sublime piece of inspired music. No wonder Elizabeth ignored the Anglo-Catholic beliefs of Thomas Wallis.
+Giles Large Tallis Scholars version or Huelgas Ensemble
This masterpiece certainly transcends any sound in this world.
Same
@@gileslarge3801 11:51
Only God can inspire these so pure sounds composed by a soul to enjoy all souls. Gratia agimus tibi, Domini!!
This great hymn helped see me through my most threatening period.
Me too!
Thats a nice comment and encouraging too. May God continue to support you through trials whichever way He may wish. Amen/Ameen.
And support the rest of us too of course!
I listened to this for the first time today, I cried after it had finished because it didnt go on for ever....
One of my top favourites ever since I first heard it. Unearthly, beautiful, can't describe it, just so marvellous. And seriously sung - by all age groups, nobody bursting out of evening dress or trying to look sexy, just perfect voices striving for perfection. As near to angels or birdsong as anything but let's not forget the discipline and training and art that results in this brilliance. Wonderful. (And as for the ghastly 'Shades of Grey' - may it shrivel into grey ghastliness!)
The Holy Spirit works in mysterious and sometimes not so mysterious ways, and this is an example of the Holy Spirit at work; that work begins with the composer, extending outwards to singers and accompanists and directors and to its hearers. Polyphony is the music of Heaven. Thanks be to God!
No it isn't. How belittling and disrespectful. This is simply human genius. Thanks be to humans not to some made up fairy.
@@AGMundy oh, yes it is - and what do you think they are singing about?! The God you say is a made-up fairy - now you are being disrespectful. Since this is a deeply religious work, did you come on here just to scoff at others?
@Alan Pontet it is irrelevant what is being sung about and don't call me disrespectful. If someone is going to post a comment about a non-existent fairy then they should expect a response. And what are you getting upset about - I wasn't rude unless of course you think truth is rude.
@@AGMundy, here is the translation of Spem In Allium:
I put not my hope in any other
than in Thee, O God of Israel,
who showeth both wrath and graciousness,
and who absolveth all the sins
of man in suffering;
Lord God, Creator of Heaven and Earth
Look upon our humility.
Read them over and over again. Visit a priest and describe to him how you feel and tell him why you commented upon this post even though you don't believe in God, for it was probably God who led you to it, perhaps as the beginning of a journey. God bless you +. All the best to you.
@@alanpontet1671 Don't patronise me. I do not need and do not wish to receive your blessing.
The greatest piece of music ever written at any time by any human being simples
Neil roderick
@karimzo21
No where near?
@Janet Smith Oh boy.... do I HAVE to choose? The Tallis Fantasia (I hope you pronounce it correctly) was described by Warren Mitchell as "Music to die to"(Desert Island Discs) he then said , "I used to think that of Sibelius 2nd Symphony." that's another impossible choice for me..... shall we add in The Protecting Veil (Taverner;20th century)?
Allegri? Where he and Monteverdi got their ideas from does puzzle me..
Прослушала это произведение с подачи Михаила Казинка . Не могу не выразить своё восхищение и восторг услышанным. Браво. Браво. Браво
Браво композитору, браво исполнению и, конечно, Михаилу Семёновичу Казинику
This sounds so, so hard to sing, regardless of which of the 8 choirs one is in. People who can sing early music seriously deserve some hats off.
The edition I sang consisted of 10 choirs of 4 voices each for a total of 40 parts. I have sung this piece twice in my life, it's incredibly difficult to sing because of the counting.
@@NWRCB I know there are multiple scores out there. I just sang it with Choir of the Earth under Nigel Short, using the Thomas Tallis Society's Edition. It was scored for 8 choirs, and submitting 16/40 parts is probably the most difficult thing I have ever done. This work is a pinnacle and I will never forget the privilege of participating in this.
@@NWRCB 8 choirs of 5 voices: S, A, T, T, B. I have the score ;-)
Wonderful for this Holy Week prayers here in NY at home since all churches are closed and we are hopeful.
This reminds me how the body of Christ works in that although the Lord has His children on individual paths, we all manage to weave according to His divine direction. What a sweet sound, Praise God!
Stunningly beautiful.
I (baritone) and my wife (first alto) sang this wonderful work in the Cathedral SS Peter & Paul in Philadelphia under the direction of Tamara Brooks. The performing group was Mandelssohn Club of Philadelphia, 3 or 4 voices to a part. Absolutely unforgettable! There is now a "performance" going on in the Cloisters in Manhattan consisting of 40 loudspeakers (one to a voice) in a resonant hall. Hurry to hear this, closes Dec 8, 2013.
Ah, just missed that, by a matter of 10 years and 1 Ocean!
I'm now an Atheist but adore this piece by Tallis. I've many versions & this is my favourite.
This one was a tad bit fast for me and I heard a few notes not quite a accurate as in other versions but....
@@rogermoore27
I think you are right about the forced tempo.
The music has been relegated from the sublime to the ordinary by being pushed along too fast, giving it a sense of being rushed and somewhat breathless; the wonderful fluid and hanging harmonies have no time to register nor resonate.
Such a shame to treat this astonishing and truly magnificent piece in this fashion; nothing gained, and everything lost.
Bryan Melvin was an Atheist but not anymore he said he went to Hell but now he believes in Jesus Christ and he is no longer an Atheist. His story is on RUclips
My mind is BLOWN. MOST INCREDIBLE THING IVE EVER HEARD.
Glory to God in the Highest.
Will a more beautiful piece of choral music ever be written. I for one doubt it. However, the title says it. I shall hope in any other.
I added 5 Brass Quintets with Spem at Christ the King Cathedral in Augusta GA in 1984!- Michael McClary, Professor of Trumpet 🎺, Georgia Perimeter College and GSU 🎉😢😅❤
I can listen to this over and over and over again. Pefection!
Dit is een live opname uit de Doelen in Rotterdam, Nederland. Ik ben daar bij geweest en vind het een onvergetelijke herinnering. Schitterend!
"Okay hold on. Someone was early. Was it you, 27?" "No! I swear, it was 38!"
I sang this wonderful piece in the Cathedral Basilica SS Peter & Paul in Philadelphia with Tamara Brooks conducting Mendelssohn Club of Philadelphia in the late '70s or early '80s.. We did it with 3 or 4 voices per part. The Cathedral is a huge barn of a hall and I am sure some of the sounds we made then are still up near the ceiling somewhere. The Tallis Scholars recording found on RUclips has intonation problems, normal in a massive a capella work like this one but disconcerting nonetheless. There is a 2-CD release with David Willcocks, George Guest and Stephen Cleobury conducting two hours of Tallis including the Spem in Allium and the Lamentations plus many other works sung by King's College Choir and St. John's College Choir. Superb! We had the privilege years ago of hearing The (augmented) Sixteen and Christophers perform Spem in Allium in London. Equally great. The power of this music to me is the echoic effects that keep adding to the sound. Better live than recorded, better sung than listened to.
@@declanthiele Look on Amazon...
It's music not engineering, altos not meeting your exacting requirements means you have lost any love for music. This is as far as I am concerned a joyous celebration of a great piece of music and as the audience confirms well appreciated by those there
My love for music is exactly why I prefer renditions with fewer mistakes. Fair play to them, of course, but I'm off to find a better version.
@@DaveDexterMusic If you can find a version with (by my reckoning) about 100 people anywhere else, I'd like to hear it. Mistakes there may be, but this piece is hard enough with 40 voices. Well done Harry Christophers, I say.
This music is a gift for the soul.
Zo mooi, en ik was zo trots op Tobias dat hij hier aan mee kon en wilde doen als broekie van 17. Kippevel muziek die je hoofd vult met pure zuivere klank en zo de snaren van je ziel beroeren dat je er nog weken op kan teren. Trouwens op de rest van het concert van de Sixteen was ook geweldig.
music a love song to God.......
pure heaven...
You got that right Eyton. Magnificent, stunning. I don't think it will ever be equalled.
Is it weird that this made me cry? TEARS OF JOY!!! XD
+Claire Smelser only a person lacking a soul wouldn't be moved.
+Claire Smelser By no means; I've listened to this more than once or twice and the effect is the same every time. :)
+Claire Smelser I feel overwhelmed every time I hear a version of Spem in alium, even years after the first time, and hundreds of listen of it. This is my favourite piece in the world, makes me cry so often.
+samgrant83 It overwhelmed me emotionally when I heard it for the first time. I was seriously ill and for all I knew dying. I went to a performance in the great entrance hall of Uppsala University House. The 40 part motet was sung on two balconies, with me dowd below in the centre. At two points I could not analyse what I was hearing, I was overwhelmed and shaken. Hearing this kept me in good spirits through a difficult time.
+George Berger That sounds really amazing. I'm pretty sick and Spem in Alium always helps me going through the darkest times. It is my favourite composition and song in the world.
Also, I have a very strong phobia of heights, and I there is a place I always dreamt to climb for as long as I could remember... when I finally travelled there, I couldn't make it up to the top because I was crying too much and shaking out of fear. I tried again in the next few days, with my headphones on and Spem in Alium playing again and again in my ears while climbing... and I did it! I collapsed on the ground at the tops, crying a lot, but it was amazing... Really is one of the strongest moment of my life, it is one of my best memories!
This divine music is directed to our very souls.
A sublime choral masterpiece.
E mesmo sem entender uma palavra, as lágrimas insistiram a cair...
quite simply beautiful
Celestial-thank you all. Soli Deo Gloria.
Very credible performance of such an exceptionally difficult work. Well done!
And, of course, having the guidance and wisdom of Harry Christophers certainly assisted too..
I Loved💜 I really love this piece see such harmony together, how beautiful to cry
We ascend to heaven !
Those opening bars...always bring to a juddering halt whatever triviality of life I am doing at the time.
Can't image this exceptional fine piece of music performed in a concert hall ! Spem In Alium belongs to the church .
Dank u SinterAVRO!
This piece is one that is punishing for any choir with the best skills when you have to keep yourself steady among 39 other voices at many spots.
It's kind of tricky. I sang the 4th part of choir 2. Not easy, but once you get the hang of it it gets better. The conducter's score is ridiculous. Ask them to to show it to you. There is no way that a 40 part vocal score comes natural to you.
Miracolo assoluto della musica di ogni tempo.
This performance has a nice bounce to it --- good energy.
Woahhhh
Wow. What a huge choir. Looks like at least 100 voices.
The most magnificent performance of this beautiful motet, I've heard. Thank you for uploading it
This gives me goosebumps ever single time!!!😫
Just wonderful.
Got to hear the LA Master Chorale & Grant Gershon perform this in Disney Hall. They separated into 4 groups, placed above and on either side of the main floor. It was celestial!
There is some evidence that this was composed for the transept of a great Elizabethan house with balconies at each corner of the intersect. So that arrangement might have been close to the original.
What an amazing piece of music!!!!
This was also performed in Columbus Ohio at the Saint Joseph Cathedral with singers from Cincinnati and Lancaster Ohio and other find singers from the greater Columbus area. It was an incredible experience. Sadly, those of us who were in the St. Joseph’s Cathedral choir at the time did not get to hear the recording but we did hear the criticism of the conductor who waxed on with his so-called philosophical and musicological insight as to what we did and did not do in the recording as he heard it. To this day I wonder what the sound truly was like and I would love to hear a recording from that first Sunday in March 2015 and hear it for myself along with some of my colleagues .
I sing in a Madrigal I´ve created and I can only imagine how difficult was to invite all these great singers to perform this wonderful and difficult Motet with 40 different voices. I can imagine how many rehearsals they had to achieve this quality. Congratulations to Mr Christophers and all the singers. I´d like to be there, singing or watching.
This really must be amongst my favourite versions of this music. Thank you. I would never have heard this version without you putting it up
Probably the greatest piece of music ever written by anyone at any time anywhere
Oh, pleeeze.. Not that game. but... yeah.... certainly on the list.
DEFINITELY on the list.
Ook bekeken in Australie, de wereld is inderdaad geschronken! Dank je AVRO
Listening to this performance, I really feel a sheer number of singers can make the performance considerably better.
wonderful, heavenly sound
Top of my bucket list must be to see this live in a good church with the right acoustic. And this choir.
godfrey young I saw this in Adelaide, with a fair choir - but not world class, and the acoustics were ok. It was magnificent!
godfrey young Godfrey, if you are anywhere near berkshire this evening (4/7/15), you may want to pop along to hear Reading Bach Choir sing this?
Sorry but Reading is out of my wheelchair range from Yorkshire
le chant des anges
Rien de moins que DIVIN !
Geweldig mooi. Altijd weer een kippenve;reactie bij dit wondermooie motet. Goed dat het is opgenomen om na te genieten.
magnifique, la musique des anges !
Het was heel bijzonder om dit mee te maken en weer terug te kunnen beluisteren.
Rayos! Es la melodía más reconfortante que he escuchado. Melodía para oídos finos ❤
whoever wrote this deserves a cookie. it's so pretty.
magnifico....! sin palabras que pieza tan bella y la calidad de interpretación, da gusto !
No má. Sublime. D:
Seeeeeeeeee
après l’exécution de cette chanson si je meurt je rentre direct au paradis auprès du père tout Puissant! BRAVO TALLIS
+ADIKO MOZART Beautiful comment, thank you!
Herrvoragend! Magnifique ! Amazing!
Beautiful performance but I prefer the Tallis Scholars recording of this piece. Even though there are 40 voices the Scholars seems to have an intimacy that is really enjoyable to listen to.
Absolutely beautiful
Well done, considering this isn't just The Sixteen but also a large group of amateur and semi-pro singers who auditioned to be in the masterclass and in the choir. So there really is no point comparing this to the Tallis Scholars or The Sixteen just on their own...
Froukje Henstra Very true. I love The Sixteen and prefer them to the Tallis Scholars but this has an uncharacteristic rough start. :)
Why do you prefer the Sixteen to the Scholars? Characteristic overbearing soprano lines aside, the Scholars usually have the Sixten beat in every other regard, including, yes, sheer vivacity. I'm very objective about sound too.
they're just as good as the two groups you mentioned..
Ohhhh ok. Because I picked on them but if you say they are amateurs, then they did a tremendous job
@@el7284 Personally I find the Scholars rather dry and clinical compared to The Sixteen. There you go -funny old world.Mostly I am grateful this repertoire has such amazing artists to interpret it anew to the world.
Goosebumps...
Nearly 500,000 views. The media pushes so much junk on us (though admittedly not all is junk), but that which is truly divine is still understood. Bless those who connect with that which is divine.
In my opinion, if you want to listen to a good recording of Spem In Alium, listen to The Tallis Scholars
agree
Mike Tuft heartily agree
Paul Van Nevel and his Hueglas Ensemble does it justice as well.
Ars gratia artis!
My introduction was the legendary Kings College Chapel recording with David Willcock, around 1975.....
40 independant part.. the director feels probably master of the world..
maravilhoso , Tallis muito obrigado , nos encontraremos em breve .
Instant chills
Gracias
So much goosebumps
I just found out, thanks to a RUclips sidebar, that this magnificent choral piece, which sounds for all the world like angels in communication with G-d, has apparently been used in a badly written piece of fanfic erotica, namely, 50 Shades of Grey. Thomas Tallis must be spinning in his grave. Not that I would ever object to erotica, you understand - but bad art is a sin. Alas!... That aside, very good performance. Remarkable.
My feelings exactly. That damn piece of pulp degrades this music. I too was ****ing furious when I found out.
It is a psychodrama that those who have not experienced horrific abuse would not understand.
I still have laugh - or feel sad at the " thumbs down " brigade - no matter how glorious , amazing music , film etc someone still wastes a second of their life being plain miserable ….
Does the fact that it is tuneless dirge - no doubt aimed at the celebration of a fictional man in the sky which people only pretend to like because they erroneously think it gives them an air of sophistication have anything to do with it?
The dislikes may be due to the sound quality of the recording on the users' equipment. The treble came over somewhat shrill which is a real nuisance as the upper parts are around G for a lot of the time once the polyphony gets going.
@@cardigan3000 Bless your heart....
this, the 40 part motet can not be captured this way. Janet Cardiff, a sound artist, recorded each of the 40 voices on individual speakers, put them in a circle in the cloisters in NY and I watched people stagger out in tears....
That recording became a traveling exhibit. I “saw” (heard) it in San Francisco about 5 years ago. Went back a second time and dragged the whole family and all choir-loving friends. Overwhelming experience.
@@jeanmcaneny6951 I certainly hope that it will become traveling again I know that it had gone through Canada and the US who else knows where. But it is a big hope for me to have the people I love experience it
@@fatovamingusseems to be a semi-permanent exhibit at the National Gallery of Canada in Ottowa.
I'm in the UK and planning my next holiday!
@@ruthd7274 No way! It's a bucket list for me thank you so much
@fatovamingus Check their website. Just in case I was dreaming it! 🤣
Kto od RoxMb?
I like Sacral music i like motetes and will try to meditate with in this music to find what I Fell or where ca n it leave me travel !