Why is each team Teo played for they don't want him back . Seattle needed a bat and like the jays, and they sent him packing. L.A. liked him, but is Teo going back to L.A., it might happen. Because Teo has won a ring, he should go for the money. He's nuts to give L.A a discount.
Atkins is an ego maniac. Hence why he can't extend players. He has zero negotiations skills. If a player doesn't accept his offer he pivots to another player. He's too stupid and ignorant to realize no one respects him.
@@laura-leez Could be. Teo and Vladdy are buds and still work out together off season. I really think the Blue Jays don’t put enough value on camaraderie.
Ya, no one of substance is coming to Toronto as long as this front office is in place. If they don’t take care of their own, why would anyone from the outside want to deal with these clowns??
Feels like Jays waiting for free agents to just fall in their laps, rather than set the markets themselves. They act like they aren’t a mega-rich corporation.
He wants a multi year deal, teams aren't interested in giving Teoscar a three year deal..Jays need left handed power bats, not another right handed bat.The lineup is too right handed heavy as it is....
Absent of 'fire Ross' and the obvious Vlad extension, what's on your Xmas list? How can we realistically improve this team under the circumstances? Teo or Santander seems like a must at this point . Not ideal, but acceptable. We've always/only had success with a solid 3rd baseman. Except for Travis Shaw in the Covid year. So that feels like a good start. Yates would be solid. Josh Bell could be a switch hitting DH/1B split with Vlad who gets on base. I would like to see another trade that comes from nowhere. Perhaps to replace the Burnes chase... Sandy Alcantara? Miami needs salary to hit the 105m floor. Would need a significant prospect package, but it Could be a great place to offload Bassitt and/or Springer as well. (That part is far fetched and not sure on their motivation to move him coming off TJ.) Maybe Nick Martinez in Cincinnati? Reds prob wouldn't mind a small haul for him at that price he accepted the QO. Maybe add Spencer Steer too. Read that he may be available. (Grichuk 2.0 maybe?). Or I hate to say it, but taking Candilario could grease some wheels there. (Ew, but we're probably capable of taking that contract) Kris Bubic in KC as a lefty for the pen. To start the off season, I thought he would be a good trade for Horowitz. STL has intriguing options, but those ones feel more obvious and have been discussed all year. What does everyone else want? There's still plenty left and of the realistic options I feel Chapman and Pederson may be the biggest misses so far. (Maybe O'Neil too)
The death knell of this management group will be signing Teo, in doing so at least admitting to one mistake they made as they embarrassingly reverse it as one of the handful of underwhelming moves they actually get done this off-season.
Go get Naylor for bichette. Spend Bo's money on Santi & Teo. That's a formidable lineup next 3-4 yrs and leads to Vlad long term protection & extension. Edward Rogers needs to step TF up
I don't see Teo being an acquisition that Aktins would make. Atkins is building a team on pitching (sort of) and defense. Unless Teo is doing to DH...I don't see where he fits. And it would be silly to give Teo big money to DH. I don't see how Teo works for the Jays.
Remember Teoscar was traded for a reason. No hustle and was part of the immature laughing all the time group which some of the senior players wanted addressed.
2nd richest owner in baseball. They put all that money into Rogers Centre and if they want fans to come - they need to and CAN AFFORD TO spend on Teo , Corbin Burnes AND locking up Guerrero for $480m / 12 years. Hell they were willing to give Soto almost $760 million alone.
I think Teo is nuts for not taking an offer from the Dodgers. Dodgers are smart tho. They aren't throwing big bucks at someone who had a good year prior. Jays are definitely dumb enough to do that. Dodgers aren't willing to overpay for guys like Teo and Santander. Maybe the Jays could learn from the Dodgers and look elsewhere. Dodgers were not heavily in on Soto and the Jays shouldn't have been either.
As much I would love to see hernandez back in the Jays lineup I have no confidence in Atkins to make it happen plus he can't even get bo or vladdy to sign extensions but I don't believe vladdy is worth 500 mill plus on an extension either this team hasn't won nothing yet with bo or vladdy it's almost like the star players on the leafs they all want big money but they can't win when it counts instead of talking a little less and building a team around a bunch of good players by spreading the payroll around around these players are all in it for themselves and how much can I make personally instead of building a winning team and winning a title that's today's athlete all about themselves not a team player anymore and it seems they don't care about winning a title it's about how much money can I make and how much is a team going to pay me it's kinda selfish I would say
Anthony Santander is the best option I see, Teo doesn't want to come to Toronto. The jays haven't done much in this off season. I tell you one thing, they will be sorry if they don't get Santander because everytime they play against him he makes them pay and pay dearly. Leave Teo in L.A. . He knows he can get another world series ring with the Dodgers
Teoscar does not want deferred money which the LA Dodgers are offering him plus he has won a world series so that is not a big deal for him now I guess. Ed Rogers wanted Juan Soto because Ed met with Jua Sotos agent Scott Boras . I know this because Hazel Mae interviewed Scott Boras And Scott met with Ed and he seemed to want Juan Soto fairly badly which Scott Boras sort of indicated in the interview. Why does Ed not want to badly sign Vlad Bo And Teoscar Guys who over the years have put up great stats for his team I can not understand what is going through Ed Rogers mind . He could easily sign these guys with the money he has ? And the money he will make back from the fans coming to watch his baseball team just to see these 3 guys play. How about some loyality Ed !
Kepler was on shapiros Atkins hit list, foiled By Dombrowski. Blue jays looking for boxing day type deal, forcing there hand. No interest in Teo it’s just price they believe he is worth, upper teens at best. Which makes Teo an Astro for one year deal with buyout in 2026. Vlad,Teo going to join to be a Met, for 2026 season.
If they sign Him why the hell did you trade him to begin with. This maangement team is the dumbest ever trading 2 good players for one of the worst players I have ever seen so what you can catch the ball you can't hit worth sh..t they should have signed or traded for a rental at that time. Now they do not realize it's time to rebuild Vladdy will not sign neither will Bo
They should never have let Teo go in the first place. I wouldn’t blame him if he is still bitter about that
Why is each team Teo played for they don't want him back . Seattle needed a bat and like the jays, and they sent him packing. L.A. liked him, but is Teo going back to L.A., it might happen. Because Teo has won a ring, he should go for the money. He's nuts to give L.A a discount.
Atkins is an ego maniac. Hence why he can't extend players. He has zero negotiations skills. If a player doesn't accept his offer he pivots to another player. He's too stupid and ignorant to realize no one respects him.
Or Lordes Guerriel
@@StephenHuntsGurriel isn’t even a free agent
Merry Christmas, Nick, and to Peter too!
I just want to say that its Christmas, and Ross Atkins still has a job . Crazy times man lol
Jays are more concerned about keeping incompetant management , than making the team better, ownership has no idea about the game.
Teo is waiting to see if Vladdy comes to an extension deal. He won’t come unless that happens
@@laura-leez Could be. Teo and Vladdy are buds and still work out together off season. I really think the Blue Jays don’t put enough value on camaraderie.
@ Exactly right. The Vladdy extension is also the reason that none of the Free agents want to come here. Lock Vladdy down and watch.
Merry Christmas everyone
Thanks for the video
Santander is also a switch hitter and younger and maybe can also afford Bregman
Merry Christmas guys. Always love the show.
Wake me when they actually do anything
Pete Alonso and Hernandez and santadare and bregman
Ya, no one of substance is coming to Toronto as long as this front office is in place. If they don’t take care of their own, why would anyone from the outside want to deal with these clowns??
All signs point to nowhere. Shitty front office can’t complete any deal
Correction: Boston looking for a RHH second baseman doesn’t take them out of Bregman. Bregman is willing to play second base.
Merry Christmas to you and Peter.✨️🎄✨️🎄✨️
Feels like Jays waiting for free agents to just fall in their laps, rather than set the markets themselves. They act like they aren’t a mega-rich corporation.
Hes worth at minimum 26 27 for 4 years it also shows Vladdy they are in it and will help them in contract negotiations
He wants a multi year deal, teams aren't interested in giving Teoscar a three year deal..Jays need left handed power bats, not another right handed bat.The lineup is too right handed heavy as it is....
Absent of 'fire Ross' and the obvious Vlad extension, what's on your Xmas list? How can we realistically improve this team under the circumstances?
Teo or Santander seems like a must at this point . Not ideal, but acceptable.
We've always/only had success with a solid 3rd baseman. Except for Travis Shaw in the Covid year. So that feels like a good start.
Yates would be solid. Josh Bell could be a switch hitting DH/1B split with Vlad who gets on base.
I would like to see another trade that comes from nowhere. Perhaps to replace the Burnes chase...
Sandy Alcantara? Miami needs salary to hit the 105m floor.
Would need a significant prospect package, but it Could be a great place to offload Bassitt and/or Springer as well. (That part is far fetched and not sure on their motivation to move him coming off TJ.)
Maybe Nick Martinez in Cincinnati? Reds prob wouldn't mind a small haul for him at that price he accepted the QO. Maybe add Spencer Steer too. Read that he may be available. (Grichuk 2.0 maybe?). Or I hate to say it, but taking Candilario could grease some wheels there. (Ew, but we're probably capable of taking that contract)
Kris Bubic in KC as a lefty for the pen. To start the off season, I thought he would be a good trade for Horowitz.
STL has intriguing options, but those ones feel more obvious and have been discussed all year.
What does everyone else want?
There's still plenty left and of the realistic options I feel Chapman and Pederson may be the biggest misses so far. (Maybe O'Neil too)
Keep Vladdy happy Teoscar makes Vladdy signing probable
@danhenry9380 there's no doubt he plays better with teo there. I'm not too keen on needing to rely on a guy's friends to motivate him tho. Lol
The death knell of this management group will be signing Teo, in doing so at least admitting to one mistake they made as they embarrassingly reverse it as one of the handful of underwhelming moves they actually get done this off-season.
Go get Naylor for bichette. Spend Bo's money on Santi & Teo. That's a formidable lineup next 3-4 yrs and leads to Vlad long term protection & extension. Edward Rogers needs to step TF up
Monty will probably be included to offload cap. Power lefty pitcher familiar with the Al east
Why not keep him and get alsono
Crapiro and Shatkins should stop shitting the bed. Give Teo, Burns, and sign Vladdy. Make themselves solid for the next few years
I don't see Teo being an acquisition that Aktins would make. Atkins is building a team on pitching (sort of) and defense. Unless Teo is doing to DH...I don't see where he fits. And it would be silly to give Teo big money to DH. I don't see how Teo works for the Jays.
Remember Teoscar was traded for a reason. No hustle and was part of the immature laughing all the time group which some of the senior players wanted addressed.
2nd richest owner in baseball. They put all that money into Rogers Centre and if they want fans to come - they need to and CAN AFFORD TO spend on Teo , Corbin Burnes AND locking up Guerrero for $480m / 12 years. Hell they were willing to give Soto almost $760 million alone.
Teovand and resigning Vladdy is a START!!
Trade Springer get Teoscar and Santsnder
Dumb comment of the day.
Yeah. Nobody's going to take Springer...lol
When u guys finally gonna say blue jays ain't getting shyt
The Jays won't even sign their own players. Why would they sign somebody else?
I think Teo is nuts for not taking an offer from the Dodgers. Dodgers are smart tho. They aren't throwing big bucks at someone who had a good year prior. Jays are definitely dumb enough to do that. Dodgers aren't willing to overpay for guys like Teo and Santander. Maybe the Jays could learn from the Dodgers and look elsewhere. Dodgers were not heavily in on Soto and the Jays shouldn't have been either.
As much I would love to see hernandez back in the Jays lineup I have no confidence in Atkins to make it happen plus he can't even get bo or vladdy to sign extensions but I don't believe vladdy is worth 500 mill plus on an extension either this team hasn't won nothing yet with bo or vladdy it's almost like the star players on the leafs they all want big money but they can't win when it counts instead of talking a little less and building a team around a bunch of good players by spreading the payroll around around these players are all in it for themselves and how much can I make personally instead of building a winning team and winning a title that's today's athlete all about themselves not a team player anymore and it seems they don't care about winning a title it's about how much money can I make and how much is a team going to pay me it's kinda selfish I would say
Would rather Santander because a) he’s younger b) switch hitter
Anthony Santander is the best option I see, Teo doesn't want to come to Toronto. The jays haven't done much in this off season. I tell you one thing, they will be sorry if they don't get Santander because everytime they play against him he makes them pay and pay dearly. Leave Teo in L.A. . He knows he can get another world series ring with the Dodgers
We'll need MORE THAN Teo! Another bat and MORE PITCHING
Teoscar does not want deferred money which the LA Dodgers are offering him plus he has won a world series so that is not a big deal for him now I guess. Ed Rogers wanted Juan Soto because Ed met with Jua Sotos agent Scott Boras . I know this because Hazel Mae interviewed Scott Boras And Scott met with Ed and he seemed to want Juan Soto fairly badly which Scott Boras sort of indicated in the interview. Why does Ed not want to badly sign Vlad Bo And Teoscar Guys who over the years have put up great stats for his team I can not understand what is going through Ed Rogers mind . He could easily sign these guys with the money he has ? And the money he will make back from the fans coming to watch his baseball team just to see these 3 guys play. How about some loyality Ed !
Why would u come back to the jays after won a world series .....!!!! I wouldn't
Even if they sign hernandez doesnt mean they make playoffs...
Kepler was on shapiros Atkins hit list, foiled By Dombrowski. Blue jays looking for boxing day type deal, forcing there hand. No interest in Teo it’s just price they believe he is worth, upper teens at best. Which makes Teo an Astro for one year deal with buyout in 2026. Vlad,Teo going to join to be a Met, for 2026 season.
Players are looking for Money AND to play for a good team. The Jays are a dumpster fire. The Jays are leverage.
If they sign Him why the hell did you trade him to begin with. This maangement team is the dumbest ever trading 2 good players for one of the worst players I have ever seen so what you can catch the ball you can't hit worth sh..t they should have signed or traded for a rental at that time. Now they do not realize it's time to rebuild Vladdy will not sign neither will Bo
Nobody wants to sign with this team lead by this management. Merry Christmas everyone