By the way. The thing with the spinal muscles going up and down… I remember seeing a video on early RUclips of a woman doing the exact same thing. Her spinal muscle appeared to move in wave forms up and down. She seemed to be in control of this movement. I was looking for it many times but can’t remember the name. I think she was teaching some kind of method like spiral dynamics. Also there are still many Bodybuilders that have crazy muscle-mind control.
For real, they should bring back some of it in pro routines! I don't see a lot of the ab stuff working right now, but back, shoulder, chest, arm and leg muscles moving to create illusions? For SURE that could have a great impact. Funny enough, a couple of years ago, I thought that it would be great to do that stuff during a hand balancing routine. It would look (Max)sick!
Perhaps the last great muscle control artist in the U.S. was Ed Jubinville, who died in 1993. He was a contest promoter and judge, and made my first weight bench. He authored a short book called "That's Muscle Control," which you can find as a PDF on some pay sites.
@@NattyLifeYT The Stark Center website has a nice write-up on his life. He was really important to Eastern bodybuilding, and there are people still using his equipment after 50 years.
Please go to youtube in order to look for 'yoga asanas' and look for something known as *nala kriya* or *nauli kriya* .....it is practiced for more than a several thousands of years(not even exaggerating).... and look for the various asanas performed.....you will see what it is about
the nerve connections simply are not there and have to be developed by practice. For example, many languages require sounds that non native speakers struggle to reproduce, because they engage some muscles in a way that is unique to the language. even if they manage to reproduce them, it takes conscious effort, feels unnatural, and is messed up often. Thats because the nerve connections are not yet developed to the point where this much control can be achieved effortlessly, similarly to left handedness vs right handedness. but if you practice enough, eventually the nerve connections will be developed to a point where it becomes natural. people new to lifting can not flex their individual chest muscles at all typically, but once they can, they never unlearn it even if the muscle shrinks a lot when you stop exercising. same with other muscles. you just have to try to flex them individually. initially your brain does not know how, but eventually after sensing the feeling of the flexed muscle in question, you will get better and better at isolating it and eventually you can flex it without any weight or exercise being performed.
ive always been able to do it , used to show off and freak people out by only flexing the middle or one side lol. ill try to explain how someone else could learn it sit down and put hands on knees/hunch like they are in vid(required) imagine pulling your belly button to your spine, this is your inner set of abs, while hunched over like that , try to focus on only flexing the right side of your outer abs while keeping the inside set tight, almost picture how your abs would be flexing carrying something on that one side or if youre gonna get hit in that side. if you focus on each different set you should be able to slowly flex your outside set to push out while keeping the inside set in. not sure why hunchin over is required but ive only been able to do it hunched over as they are in the vid. sitting in a chair with elbows/hands on knees is best so you dont have to think of any other muscle for balance
In Dune (the book) Paul talks about the full muscle control of his body and that the Bene Gesserit taught it to him. I was obsessed with that for a few years after reading this and I gained control over certain parts on my body that I couldn't control before, but I gave up on it. Seeing this footage is really neat and inspiring. I learned that stomach vacuum thing from a yogi about 20 years ago. It's not that hard to do but it feels really uncomfortable and you need to be skinny to do it (I can't do it anymore) and I never had that crazy rolling control that lady had but I could pop out the two ab columns. This video makes me nostalgic and inspired to practice some of these things again.
I am glad I wasn't the only one to think about the Bene Gesserit. They talk about Alia flexing a singular muscle group on one side of her face. Cool stuff.
@@NattyLifeYT Hey Nattylife, do you know Mike Munz? He has the best muscle control of any current-day bodybuilder I know of and he is likely natural as well.
Natty are already risen you see non natty's are slaves to a system and now depend on the system whom with out they lose every thing now since their bodies no longer work all non natty are in the matrix and will lose every thing if they leave and they know so they go all in and destroy themselves before their time its sad but it because the system doesn't want REAL strong men it wants paper Mache that will wilt at the threat of losing their suppliers and will fight for tyrants if they got the juice . there is a shift coming Rome Egypt Athens they all fell when lost sight of Eternal Morality we're in the death throws of a broken system and their life line is AI which will betray every one and lead to mass destruction and will be back to the stone ages so keep lifting we wont have machines to dig through the ashes well be doin that by hand
Good video, but just a small correction if I may. The Indian gentleman are not isolating one side of their abdominal column, even if it appears so. They are actually breathing out fully then moving their full abdominal column to one side. I know this because I used to do it myself and 'swing' my full abdominal column from side to side. As you are aware, the practice is called nauli and is an advanced technique from hatha yoga.
As I recall, the exercise begins with exhaling fully and pulling both the sides of the abdominals in - so all the abdominals are engaged or 'flexed' if you will. If this were not the case, and one side of the abdominals was not engaged but truly relaxed, then that side would simply be straight or convex as it is in normal posture. The fact that it isn't shows that both sides are engaged and under tension.
I can do the same trick and I don’t need to breath out or anything, just do a vacuum then flex one side abs. Maybe these Indians are doing a different technique though as you’re claiming.
It is rare to see someone identify a correctly name the physical part of yog as hath yog (well minus the a that brits added to everything they wrote in native pronunciations for the lack of a better word). Hats off good sir!
Imagine how easy it must have been for them to properly train their muscles once they could control them that well. After all the better someone can feel and use one muscle the better and easier it gets to develop them.
@@yoeyyoey8937 No, just flexing, relaxing, and being aware of your body is enough. That's how yoga practitioners get muscle control without doing hypertrophy training (although yoga still exercises the muscles). It might take longer though
@@salj.5459 kinda but there’s stuff you don’t really know how to flex. I’m sure if you focus on it long enough and train hard and consistently you might be able to do it though but it’s for sure going to include some movement
@@yoeyyoey8937 a bit, but for example I never felt my lats doing seated rows when I started, but sitting at home one day I had my hand on my lat, and I just kept doing different things until I could consistently flex it into my hand, and that same day when I hit back my lats were something I could actively flex back.
Yoga and body development were inseparable in ancient times.. We have the watered down version we see today.. NL, like always you're one of the best fitness content creators on YT.. Keep up the great work..
What stupidity, yoga is not an exercise system and the real experts are not buffed but shriveled up. And yoga is for enlightenment and release from mortal world. The health benefits and body control are side effects
These old videos are so amazing. What a unique channel you are running. I find this old stuff fascinating. What it was like to be a bodybuilder before the age of steroids. Fascinating!
@@yoeyyoey8937weight training makes it difficult to isolate specific muscle fibres to train which leads to alot of inflexibility and unbalanced strength
@@Mallchad yep if you’re trying to become athletic and all you do is squat bench deadlift and literally nothing else, you’ll get stronger and put on mass but you will not be very athletic and will probably have have worse flexibility than when you started. That kind of training is very limited and your body will show it
Lot of extra free time on your hands with no internet. I bet I could learn how to levitate if you took away my interwebz. Another great vid NL, love the old timey stuff!
A real lost art. I am astonished and amazed at how they control each individual muscle so freely. It is amazing what they could perform and I can only imagine the amount of training as well as how extensive the training was in order to have such great muscle control. A very amazing video
It reminds me a lot of belly dancing. Small muscle control is widely practiced in that community, especially among male body dancers. I recommend checking out that community if you're looking to pursue these skills
Bronze Age muscle control took a lot of inspiration from yoga and eastern traditions. The eponymous Paramahansa Yogananda was involved with the pioneering of bodybuilding and muscle control, and actually he used these principles in his Kriya yoga practice that his followers still perform to this day. Let me know if you want more information on this.
There are definitely parallels between Bronze Age ideas and eastern/yoga practices, but I haven’t been able to find much in the way of ‘inspiration’ or actual sharing of ideas. As far as I can tell there were a lot of similar ideas in different cultures but very little cross pollination
ever consider it the other way around . . Paramahansa Yogananda brought sum good centering techniques but in the end ( he dropped dead on camera ) was typical spiritual distractor . . see "exit the cave" audiobook chapter 1 here & elsewhere or ForeverConsciousResearch Channel
The level of control they have contributes to strong tendons and good full range of motion at the joints, both of which are lacking nowadays, spending time just moving your arms around overhead and flexing different muscles in the upper back and ribcage, is great for getting blood into tendons. Should be done everyday
"Putting on as much muscle as possible without dying and then going and stage to perform a handful of static poses" LOL Hit the nail on the head - What happened to the art of bodybuilding?
These guys embody the real "aesthetics." Proportion, healthy leanness, symmetry. I still think natty guys are more aesthetic. Natural athletes tend to look leaner since they don't retain as much water. A pro natty bodybuilder at 6-7% bodyfat often looks leaner than an IFBB pro at 5%. I don't think getting that lean is aesthetic, 10-12% still looks very lean and much healthier. I'm glad you're shedding light on the Bronze and Silver Era guys. Natural potential is so much higher than people think, too many people now are just impatient and black pilled by Reddit nattyornot DYELs.
@@yoeyyoey8937 is it unhealthy that i have a 11 percent body fat without even trying to lose weight or fat, i eat a what ever i want and dont gain fat or body weight, should i see a doctor?
Maxick's book is great, I do his muscle control techniques and I've never seen such rapid development from any other kind of approach. That's probably because it so fully isolates each muscle more than is possible when lifting. It also very strongly supports and develops posture and I noticed myself standing upright far more easily and changes to my gait.
As an ADHD riddled child that was constantly looking for mechanisms to focus, muscle control across my entire body led me to having a physique and measurements that seem juicy as an adult. More than genetics, I am sure it was this habit that I picked up as a child. Additionally, while I can't quite do the extreme spine trick displayed here, I can separate and contract the muscles along my spine (or really anywhere) one muscle at a time, in any order.
Was another thing. Was the control and the maximum expression of what we could be naturally,was the maximum expression of power,athleticism and strenght. Now is who get bigger with steroids....no comparison
Hello Dan. My name is Jigsaw. Tonight you will come to a reckoning of the actions in your life. To escape these suffocating chains, you only need to isolate your left stomach tendon and right stomach muscle column.
muscle control is actually something i became interested naturally after getting interested in fitness and lifting weights for the first time, and gaining real good mind muscle connection. i'm gonna start trying to put more of this in my routine and see if it helps me break my plateau. i wish i never knew of alan mead cause now i'm very upset no videos exist 🤣
One of my dads old friends told me about a guy who had insane muscle control and he told me about things like this and I was astonished. Seeing pictures of it is even more astonishing though!
I'm sitting here trying some of this and I can feel it's possible! Incredible the body is a beautiful specimen!!! No where near the level exhibited but I can feel the possibility
Well when you don’t spend half of your gym time taking social media photos, you’ll figure out other shit to do like freaky muscle flexing 😁. Another example: our boy Milo of Croton was like “yeah, I’m going to lift that cow over there.”
My older brothers were obsessed with this stuff when I was a little guy. I can do a vacuum, nothing compared to these guys though. I can also do some pretty weird shoulder blade stuff, I can rotate my left foot an ungodly amount of degrees and I can move both of my eyeballs independently
That's astounding! One half of the abbs, insane! I don't know how you would even start training that, big muscles are cool and all, but I'll never be the best at that, I need to start training freakish muscle control if I want to stand out
Could you imagine a big guy today learning to do this? It would look wild. I try to do the pec jiggle every now and then, i can just barely do it but thats about it for me lol
Muscle control sadly is a lost art. Luckly there a few who are keeping it alive. I consider muscle control the qi gong side of bodybuilding. We must bring this art back for the sake of the nature bodybuilding community. I myself practice this art after workouts. I have a book muscle control by maxsick.
Anyone else reminded of prana bindu training from Dune? Total conscious control of all muscles and nerves in the body. I always thought that was a neat idea.
Im not a legit bodybuilder and frequently work out, but I’ve always had something a little similar since I was young. I can do the classics like the moving ears or the vacuum, but I do have some weird muscles in my neck that allow weird movement, I have a muscle kinda where the joint on my right arm is pushed down and almost dislocating it, I can also move my intestines around just on command. I have no idea why any of this happens and some of it is probably not muscle and could be underdevelopment and so on. But thank you for making a video on this as it’s been super cool seeing these bodybuilders weird muscle usage.
i have this weird one trick, where i can flex my right bicep while my whole arm is completely at rest and in any position. no forearm, no tricep no shoulder muscle is contracted at that point and i can pulsate that one bicep, its like some sort of controlled cramp happening and its quite cool. so yes i find it normal that people can control the rest of their muscles in isolation. i dont remember when i discovered it but once i started doing it it was like learning something completely new and it stuck to me
Maxick's abs are just incredible. Bobby Pandour was another that had incredible sinew showing through. These guys built muscle of a different form, its tighter, or of a different composition in some strange way.
Alan P Meade in the first picture. Does anyone remember Tony Holland and wheels ,from back in the Seventies. I think it may have won on opportunity knocks a tv show in the UK from back in the Seventies.
Ed Jubinville of Chicopee mass USA the best he could control every muscle in his body, it was my pleasure to have known him. He was a judge in the first couple of Mr Olympia shows.
Its only something like 30% of people have total control of movement of their spine. The majority can only isolate a couple of sections. Everyone needs good mind muscle connection, just for basic function
Muscle Control is an aspect of Awareness. When you can put your awareness on individual muscles you can easily control them, like controlling the breath. Unfortunately our modern times are distracted and we do not value awareness. People are strong; but they do not have strength. They can lift heavy, but they don't have control.
Really great insight here! Enjoyed this tremendously! One thing would be cool for you to check out when you have a moment to go down the youtube rabbit hole....is how people who study under an "umbrella term" of American dance called "popping" actually practice these types of "muscle control" movement/isolations. Of course its not for showing physique rather many times its about creating an illusion to bring forth a "movement concept" and or actually dancing (as in expressing rhythmic, melodic and timing occurrence in response to the music). Its certainly a VERY studied art-form that uses very similar principals.
Muscle control does still pop up now and again as party tricks. My grandfather could wriggle his ears and I can isolate my scalp. I'd love to implement muscle control properly like the old school physical culturists
I can move my ears too... and I just realized I can move them separately. The story behind that skill still makes me smile: in primary school, a child in my class (I don't remember him/her) bragged about being able to move his/her ears. All chilsren in the class were so impressed rhzt we all de ided to move our ears too. Every time a new child could move his ears, the other worked harder to do the same. I was so proud when I managed to move my ears! 25+ tears later, I recently moved next to one children's mother, and therefore sometimes meet one of my old classmates. I should ask her if she remembers the ear-challenge and is still able to move them. I would be lucky if she doesn't call the psychiatric hospital. 😂
Interesting story. It demonstrates the power of the human mind. We can just decide to develop the ability to move muscles, practice, and then we gain control@@grenade8572
Yeah, same here. I have always been able to control my hamstrings, but now that I know I can do that with my whole body, oh boy, this is going to be fun. :D
Contrary to what most steroid users say, the vast majority of people are natural. This channel is better than the average fitness influencer’s because 99% of people can relate.
Woooow author well done, this is a real bodybuilding which is worth to learn ! An art of body will stay with you forever untill an old age, not like for modern bodybuilders, after 6 months without training they looks like sausages
I'm surprise you haven't done a video on Harry Houdini. If there was every a golden age dude it was him. Muscle control, impressive physique to pull off his magic tricks; his legs stand out in any era. Great channel.
Super interesting. Just think how much gained knowledge and practices are lost. Let alone in bodybuilding. That doesn't mean that no one knew on Earth knew that this was effective but it means that the populous doesn't. Therefore it is lost. Cool stuff.
Natty, I’m not sure if this comment reaches you, but I wanna share my experience. Before I tell my story, I wanna say that Steroids are also added to medications. Especially the ones that are supposed to heal allergies. People should be very careful before taking any of such drugs. So now about my story: when I was 10 years old, I developed terrible allergies, over basically everything. Most of the food that I consumed gave me allergies which resulted in coughing, excessive mucus production, severe sinus infections and throat irritation. My doctor prescribed me shots, which were supposed to strengthen my immune system and also prevent allergies from occurring. As you can probably guess, those shots contained steroids (which she did NOT inform my mother about, and also I had NO IDEA) She gave me those shots every 3 days for 1 month. And then repeated the same procedure for over 3 YEARS. As you know, during that age, girls start to grow and turn into adults, so messing up hormones can be devastating for health, especially by using drugs that contain steroids. Soon after, my appetite increased rapidly and I wanted to eat literally 24 hours. Even while I was sleeping, I was seeing dreams about food and then woke up to eat. I gained weight, developed a terrible acne, almost the same type that you showed in one of your previous videos on Steroids. All over my face and body. They appeared every single day for years and would not stop despite all anti acne creams and antibiotics. My skin became very oily too. I started to develop some pain and stiffness in my back and shoulders area, even though I didn’t do any exercise. My mood changed to very aggressive and basically angry all the time. I just wanted to fight everyone. I lost significant amount of hair on my scalp, especially top front area. I developed problems with food digestion, horrible menstrual pain and my hormone levels went crazy, especially my testosterone level was even higher than what is supposed to be normal for MEN! In a 10 - 11 year girl… All of these problems appeared and I suffered for soo many years because of these.. let alone all other psychological issues that also developed along with other symptoms.. im 25 years old now and I STILL take female hormones to regulate my cycle and basically everything.. and I still need to check it every 6 months to make sure it doesn’t go crazy again. I’m also at risk of not being able to get pregnant and have kids. So I’m monitoring carefully… So this was my story and I didn’t even tell all of it, I tried to keep it as short as possible. Guys, please DO NOT use any kind of drugs and also be careful with other medically prescribed medications and make sure they don’t contain steroids, especially when it comes to anti allergies drugs. I hope you learned something from this. Take care
The steroids you took, corticosteroids, are totally different from testosterone or anabolic steroids. I had a severe autoimmune condition in the past and had to go on high dose corticosteroids, which caused widespread muscle wasting, large amounts of fat gain, and a redistribution of fat onto the face and torso away from the limbs. It also weakened my bones to the point where my leg joints spontaneously crumbled under their own weight. This is because cortisol, the steroid hormone we took, is a stress hormone, so your body reorients your metabolism entirely around saving as much energy as possible, leeching nutrients from your bones and brain to put on fat (which is intended to help you survive famine). Testosterone on the other hand reduces fat gain, and builds muscle.
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What muscle is the "abdominal tendon" one supoosed to be?
By the way. The thing with the spinal muscles going up and down…
I remember seeing a video on early RUclips of a woman doing the exact same thing.
Her spinal muscle appeared to move in wave forms up and down. She seemed to be in control of this movement. I was looking for it many times but can’t remember the name. I think she was teaching some kind of method like spiral dynamics.
Also there are still many Bodybuilders that have crazy muscle-mind control.
Muscle control definitely makes bodybuilding more entertaining, rather than just standing and posing. Those vintage clips were INSANE!!
...and than passing out from standing too much :D
For real, they should bring back some of it in pro routines! I don't see a lot of the ab stuff working right now, but back, shoulder, chest, arm and leg muscles moving to create illusions? For SURE that could have a great impact. Funny enough, a couple of years ago, I thought that it would be great to do that stuff during a hand balancing routine. It would look (Max)sick!
To be fair posing does require muscle control
@@jenpachi2408 literally everything requires muscle control
@@fast1nakus You wanna try posing for hours on end at that low of a bodyfat?
This stuff is mind boggling, i can't even imagine how to begin doing this stuff
I offer muscle control coaching
Some of this can be trained some of it can't.
I smoke alot of hash
@@DuBstep115All of it can be trained. What are you talking about? Is this another thing you dopes are going to say is "genetic"?
@@salj.5459 False
Perhaps the last great muscle control artist in the U.S. was Ed Jubinville, who died in 1993. He was a contest promoter and judge, and made my first weight bench. He authored a short book called "That's Muscle Control," which you can find as a PDF on some pay sites.
Thanks, I must look into him
@@NattyLifeYT The Stark Center website has a nice write-up on his life. He was really important to Eastern bodybuilding, and there are people still using his equipment after 50 years.
I've taken the scans you mentioned and had them archived to the same place you can find the wayback machine. You can read Ed's book there now.
Awesome
@@Aar69fricken nice
That one half ab flex is absolutely insane. I'm not even sure how it's possible to do that to be honest.
Please go to youtube in order to look for 'yoga asanas' and look for something known as *nala kriya* or *nauli kriya* .....it is practiced for more than a several thousands of years(not even exaggerating).... and look for the various asanas performed.....you will see what it is about
it's all about mindset bro
They're bracing like crazy with their arms so I'm going to assume that the trick is in that somewhat.
the nerve connections simply are not there and have to be developed by practice. For example, many languages require sounds that non native speakers struggle to reproduce, because they engage some muscles in a way that is unique to the language. even if they manage to reproduce them, it takes conscious effort, feels unnatural, and is messed up often. Thats because the nerve connections are not yet developed to the point where this much control can be achieved effortlessly, similarly to left handedness vs right handedness.
but if you practice enough, eventually the nerve connections will be developed to a point where it becomes natural. people new to lifting can not flex their individual chest muscles at all typically, but once they can, they never unlearn it even if the muscle shrinks a lot when you stop exercising. same with other muscles. you just have to try to flex them individually. initially your brain does not know how, but eventually after sensing the feeling of the flexed muscle in question, you will get better and better at isolating it and eventually you can flex it without any weight or exercise being performed.
ive always been able to do it
, used to show off and freak people out by only flexing the middle or one side lol. ill try to explain how someone else could learn it
sit down and put hands on knees/hunch like they are in vid(required) imagine pulling your belly button to your spine, this is your inner set of abs, while hunched over like that , try to focus on only flexing the right side of your outer abs while keeping the inside set tight, almost picture how your abs would be flexing carrying something on that one side or if youre gonna get hit in that side. if you focus on each different set you should be able to slowly flex your outside set to push out while keeping the inside set in.
not sure why hunchin over is required but ive only been able to do it hunched over as they are in the vid. sitting in a chair with elbows/hands on knees is best so you dont have to think of any other muscle for balance
This is a million times cooler than big guys doing the same 5 poses
It would have been wild if there was footage of that spinal dance. It sounds very impressive. That woman doing vacuums at the end is also impressive.
In Dune (the book) Paul talks about the full muscle control of his body and that the Bene Gesserit taught it to him. I was obsessed with that for a few years after reading this and I gained control over certain parts on my body that I couldn't control before, but I gave up on it. Seeing this footage is really neat and inspiring.
I learned that stomach vacuum thing from a yogi about 20 years ago. It's not that hard to do but it feels really uncomfortable and you need to be skinny to do it (I can't do it anymore) and I never had that crazy rolling control that lady had but I could pop out the two ab columns.
This video makes me nostalgic and inspired to practice some of these things again.
I am glad I wasn't the only one to think about the Bene Gesserit. They talk about Alia flexing a singular muscle group on one side of her face. Cool stuff.
200k soon! Well deserved! Natty community RISE UP! :)
Hell yeah!! Many thanks brother 💪
@@NattyLifeYTthanks for you work my guy, breathing health and strength into the community 💪🏿🤘🏿
@@NattyLifeYT Hey Nattylife, do you know Mike Munz? He has the best muscle control of any current-day bodybuilder I know of and he is likely natural as well.
Natty are already risen you see non natty's are slaves to a system and now depend on the system whom with out they lose every thing now since their bodies no longer work all non natty are in the matrix and will lose every thing if they leave and they know so they go all in and destroy themselves before their time its sad but it because the system doesn't want REAL strong men it wants paper Mache that will wilt at the threat of losing their suppliers and will fight for tyrants if they got the juice . there is a shift coming Rome Egypt Athens they all fell when lost sight of Eternal Morality we're in the death throws of a broken system and their life line is AI which will betray every one and lead to mass destruction and will be back to the stone ages so keep lifting we wont have machines to dig through the ashes well be doin that by hand
Good video, but just a small correction if I may. The Indian gentleman are not isolating one side of their abdominal column, even if it appears so. They are actually breathing out fully then moving their full abdominal column to one side. I know this because I used to do it myself and 'swing' my full abdominal column from side to side. As you are aware, the practice is called nauli and is an advanced technique from hatha yoga.
Idk but i see just 1 abdominal side being flexed
As I recall, the exercise begins with exhaling fully and pulling both the sides of the abdominals in - so all the abdominals are engaged or 'flexed' if you will. If this were not the case, and one side of the abdominals was not engaged but truly relaxed, then that side would simply be straight or convex as it is in normal posture. The fact that it isn't shows that both sides are engaged and under tension.
I can do the same trick and I don’t need to breath out or anything, just do a vacuum then flex one side abs. Maybe these Indians are doing a different technique though as you’re claiming.
It is rare to see someone identify a correctly name the physical part of yog as hath yog (well minus the a that brits added to everything they wrote in native pronunciations for the lack of a better word). Hats off good sir!
Imagine how easy it must have been for them to properly train their muscles once they could control them that well. After all the better someone can feel and use one muscle the better and easier it gets to develop them.
Such a great point!
It’s the opposite. You need to train your muscles to learn how to control them
@@yoeyyoey8937 No, just flexing, relaxing, and being aware of your body is enough. That's how yoga practitioners get muscle control without doing hypertrophy training (although yoga still exercises the muscles). It might take longer though
@@salj.5459 kinda but there’s stuff you don’t really know how to flex. I’m sure if you focus on it long enough and train hard and consistently you might be able to do it though but it’s for sure going to include some movement
@@yoeyyoey8937 a bit, but for example I never felt my lats doing seated rows when I started, but sitting at home one day I had my hand on my lat, and I just kept doing different things until I could consistently flex it into my hand, and that same day when I hit back my lats were something I could actively flex back.
Yoga and body development were inseparable in ancient times.. We have the watered down version we see today.. NL, like always you're one of the best fitness content creators on YT.. Keep up the great work..
What's the undiluted version?
@@chs75this is the undiluted version
What stupidity, yoga is not an exercise system and the real experts are not buffed but shriveled up. And yoga is for enlightenment and release from mortal world. The health benefits and body control are side effects
@@chs75it will make you super human.
These old videos are so amazing. What a unique channel you are running. I find this old stuff fascinating. What it was like to be a bodybuilder before the age of steroids. Fascinating!
Mobility, muscle control and odd lifts are as important as training with weights!
Training with weights allows you to do these things
@@yoeyyoey8937weight training makes it difficult to isolate specific muscle fibres to train which leads to alot of inflexibility and unbalanced strength
@@Mallchad yep if you’re trying to become athletic and all you do is squat bench deadlift and literally nothing else, you’ll get stronger and put on mass but you will not be very athletic and will probably have have worse flexibility than when you started. That kind of training is very limited and your body will show it
Lot of extra free time on your hands with no internet. I bet I could learn how to levitate if you took away my interwebz.
Another great vid NL, love the old timey stuff!
There's a guy on social media who can make waves across every muscle and ripples around. Its insane. Really cool video!
His name was Joe Aesthetics, he passed recently. I'm surprised he wasn't mentioned in the video.
@@Ace-eu2oh Nope. Different guy. Joe Linder had nothing on this fella.
@@Ace-eu2oh maybe because Joe was a steroid junkie like every "influencer" nowadays.
I practice Yoga and when I saw the Indian bodybuilders abs I thought "Well, they know Nauli for sure".
Glad you mentioned it too.
A real lost art. I am astonished and amazed at how they control each individual muscle so freely.
It is amazing what they could perform and I can only imagine the amount of training as well as how extensive the training was in order to have such great muscle control.
A very amazing video
It reminds me a lot of belly dancing.
Small muscle control is widely practiced in that community, especially among male body dancers.
I recommend checking out that community if you're looking to pursue these skills
This is probably the most mature bodybuilding channel.
Best of luck
a great view on and addition to what is shown about body building on youtube.
Many thanks bro!
Frankly this is far more impressive than modern bodybuilding as it displays great control over ones body while clearly being impressively built
Boldog szülinapot! Grat a 200k-hoz! 😁
Wow Levi eszt nem vartam!! Koszi szepen teso✌️
Bronze Age muscle control took a lot of inspiration from yoga and eastern traditions. The eponymous Paramahansa Yogananda was involved with the pioneering of bodybuilding and muscle control, and actually he used these principles in his Kriya yoga practice that his followers still perform to this day. Let me know if you want more information on this.
Please provide more info on this because I am interested in muscle control as a spiritual practice.
@@CirrowProductionsI second this
There are definitely parallels between Bronze Age ideas and eastern/yoga practices, but I haven’t been able to find much in the way of ‘inspiration’ or actual sharing of ideas. As far as I can tell there were a lot of similar ideas in different cultures but very little cross pollination
ever consider it the other way around . . Paramahansa Yogananda brought sum good centering techniques but in the end ( he dropped dead on camera ) was typical spiritual distractor . . see "exit the cave" audiobook chapter 1 here & elsewhere or ForeverConsciousResearch Channel
The level of control they have contributes to strong tendons and good full range of motion at the joints, both of which are lacking nowadays, spending time just moving your arms around overhead and flexing different muscles in the upper back and ribcage, is great for getting blood into tendons. Should be done everyday
Nice to see another great Video from you.
The best i can do towards ab muscle control is a vacuum Pose while flexed abs.
This is basically the Prana-Bindu disciplines from the Dune Chronicles. Truly superhuman stuff.
Shit, I was thinking the same thing.
Whats prana bindu in dune? Cause that literally comes from Hinduism
CORRECTION: “Now you have bodybuilders essentially laser focused on putting on as much muscle as possible without dying *before the next Olympia show”
That's why Tony Pearson's vacuum to ab shot was epic! 💪🏾
"Putting on as much muscle as possible without dying and then going and stage to perform a handful of static poses"
LOL
Hit the nail on the head - What happened to the art of bodybuilding?
😂 the truth though
Died with Yates and the mass monster era
almost like the term "bodybuilding" implies building up the body, not move it strangely 🤯
@@keagenmccartha7412 Muscle is movement
Billy Ralph, being British, probably pronounced his last name "RAFE".
These guys embody the real "aesthetics." Proportion, healthy leanness, symmetry.
I still think natty guys are more aesthetic. Natural athletes tend to look leaner since they don't retain as much water. A pro natty bodybuilder at 6-7% bodyfat often looks leaner than an IFBB pro at 5%.
I don't think getting that lean is aesthetic, 10-12% still looks very lean and much healthier.
I'm glad you're shedding light on the Bronze and Silver Era guys. Natural potential is so much higher than people think, too many people now are just impatient and black pilled by Reddit nattyornot DYELs.
10-12% is aesthetic for bodybuilding show purposes but irl you probably don’t wanna walk around that lean
@@yoeyyoey8937Yes you do, if you can
@@yoeyyoey8937 is it unhealthy that i have a 11 percent body fat without even trying to lose weight or fat, i eat a what ever i want and dont gain fat or body weight, should i see a doctor?
@@toyotawitha20mm35 You are probably 15 % bf and gaining fat.
@MrGoranPa maybe, last time I checked my BF was like a month ago
Another version of that yoga technique is an up and down ab roll which looks even more freaky than the horizontal movement.
Awesome Video thank you Bro! Real Quality . Salute from Durban South Africa
Thank you bro! I worked with South Africans for many years, one of them was from Durban ✌️ good people
Maxick's book is great, I do his muscle control techniques and I've never seen such rapid development from any other kind of approach. That's probably because it so fully isolates each muscle more than is possible when lifting. It also very strongly supports and develops posture and I noticed myself standing upright far more easily and changes to my gait.
I can barely hold a vacuum for 20 seconds right now. This is motivating me to get back on that😂
I can't even do a vacuum... 😅
That Mead fella was a beast!
2:16 The good Professor is also very aesthetic!
Beautiful, but creepy moves. Also it's beneficial for muscle growth since you can literally isolate the muscle perfectly.
Bronze era is my favorite
incredible, their physiques and muscles looked so much more dense and based in practical strength, unlike today's airy balloons
As an ADHD riddled child that was constantly looking for mechanisms to focus, muscle control across my entire body led me to having a physique and measurements that seem juicy as an adult. More than genetics, I am sure it was this habit that I picked up as a child. Additionally, while I can't quite do the extreme spine trick displayed here, I can separate and contract the muscles along my spine (or really anywhere) one muscle at a time, in any order.
I'm sure some guy will do a "trying to make my spine go crazy day 87" video series and eventually achieve this lost art.
Was another thing. Was the control and the maximum expression of what we could be naturally,was the maximum expression of power,athleticism and strenght. Now is who get bigger with steroids....no comparison
Esto me hace acordar a la mitica pose de Frank Zane haciendo un vacío abdominal, realmente increíble 😮
Hello Dan. My name is Jigsaw. Tonight you will come to a reckoning of the actions in your life. To escape these suffocating chains, you only need to isolate your left stomach tendon and right stomach muscle column.
muscle control is actually something i became interested naturally after getting interested in fitness and lifting weights for the first time, and gaining real good mind muscle connection. i'm gonna start trying to put more of this in my routine and see if it helps me break my plateau.
i wish i never knew of alan mead cause now i'm very upset no videos exist 🤣
Imagine learning this, you'll actually be able to fix all your asymmetry through feeling alone, not even a recording needed
Congrats on 200k! Awesome video :) Time to start training stomach vacuums again...
Yeah, I think every bodybuilder and lifter should at least try the more basic stuff like found in the Maxalding system, which I found online
One of my dads old friends told me about a guy who had insane muscle control and he told me about things like this and I was astonished.
Seeing pictures of it is even more astonishing though!
2:42 this guy is also flexing one of his traps while doing all that. That's super impressive.
Brings to mind the old superhero Flex Mentallo, who could alter reality by flexing their muscles. Ultimate perfect muscle control.
I'm sitting here trying some of this and I can feel it's possible! Incredible the body is a beautiful specimen!!! No where near the level exhibited but I can feel the possibility
Dude you definitely need to do more old bodybuilding equiptment videos!!!! The chest expander video really got me excited for my home gym
Training video incoming ???????? It would be cool to see the various techniques used to do these things.
brodieshredz has some pretty good core muscle control, It's like he's shifting through presets when he starts flexing.
Well when you don’t spend half of your gym time taking social media photos, you’ll figure out other shit to do like freaky muscle flexing 😁. Another example: our boy Milo of Croton was like “yeah, I’m going to lift that cow over there.”
Would not expect to see a random video of Jared Feather on this channel XD
professor Atilla's light dumbbell system is similar to muscle control
The yoga connection seems solid to me, since it was also a time of overall great fascination by India and its “spiritual” traditions.
Talk about mind muscle connection....
let's take this back to bodybuilding, the thing with the back sounds so cool
Now THAT is mind muscle connection
It took ok me years to figure out how to move my ears alone. Can't believe these guys
My older brothers were obsessed with this stuff when I was a little guy. I can do a vacuum, nothing compared to these guys though. I can also do some pretty weird shoulder blade stuff, I can rotate my left foot an ungodly amount of degrees and I can move both of my eyeballs independently
Holy shit the eyeball thing is crazy
I could do the vacuum and shoulder blade thing. My aunt's would say I had wings. Lol
That's astounding! One half of the abbs, insane! I don't know how you would even start training that, big muscles are cool and all, but I'll never be the best at that, I need to start training freakish muscle control if I want to stand out
Check "Tony Holland" who might be the last living exponent of Maxalding. Cheers
Those ab muscle control examples are INSANE.
Could you imagine a big guy today learning to do this? It would look wild. I try to do the pec jiggle every now and then, i can just barely do it but thats about it for me lol
this is honestly way more impressive than just BEEEG MUSCLE
Muscle control sadly is a lost art. Luckly there a few who are keeping it alive. I consider muscle control the qi gong side of bodybuilding. We must bring this art back for the sake of the nature bodybuilding community. I myself practice this art after workouts. I have a book muscle control by maxsick.
Anyone else reminded of prana bindu training from Dune? Total conscious control of all muscles and nerves in the body. I always thought that was a neat idea.
Im not a legit bodybuilder and frequently work out, but I’ve always had something a little similar since I was young. I can do the classics like the moving ears or the vacuum, but I do have some weird muscles in my neck that allow weird movement, I have a muscle kinda where the joint on my right arm is pushed down and almost dislocating it, I can also move my intestines around just on command. I have no idea why any of this happens and some of it is probably not muscle and could be underdevelopment and so on. But thank you for making a video on this as it’s been super cool seeing these bodybuilders weird muscle usage.
I have seen some of it in an old book about Yoga ("Sport und Yoga") by Selvarajan Yesudian.
i have this weird one trick, where i can flex my right bicep while my whole arm is completely at rest and in any position. no forearm, no tricep no shoulder muscle is contracted at that point and i can pulsate that one bicep, its like some sort of controlled cramp happening and its quite cool. so yes i find it normal that people can control the rest of their muscles in isolation. i dont remember when i discovered it but once i started doing it it was like learning something completely new and it stuck to me
Munz is probably the only guy these days still practicing this stuff
So if shredded musclemass monsters can do this control... they'd be unstoppable and for sure make a big splash at any bodybuilding show
Amazing video!
Thanks bro!
You get my respect if you can make your abdominal muscles make facial expressions
Maxick's abs are just incredible. Bobby Pandour was another that had incredible sinew showing through. These guys built muscle of a different form, its tighter, or of a different composition in some strange way.
Afaik Sandow is one of guys that is credited to popularize joga as excercise.
Alan P Meade in the first picture.
Does anyone remember Tony Holland and wheels ,from back in the Seventies.
I think it may have won on opportunity knocks a tv show in the UK from back in the Seventies.
Alan was a interesting character, the reason you see these typed of pictures of him ,is because he lost part of legs in World war 1.
Ed Jubinville of Chicopee mass USA the best he could control every muscle in his body, it was my pleasure to have known him. He was a judge in the first couple of Mr Olympia shows.
Look at Sri Krishnamacharya practicing Yoga. It's simply beautiful
Its only something like 30% of people have total control of movement of their spine. The majority can only isolate a couple of sections. Everyone needs good mind muscle connection, just for basic function
"As much muscle as possible without dying"
dude, more like "as much muscle as possible before dying"
Muscle Control is an aspect of Awareness. When you can put your awareness on individual muscles you can easily control them, like controlling the breath. Unfortunately our modern times are distracted and we do not value awareness. People are strong; but they do not have strength. They can lift heavy, but they don't have control.
Crazy
And here I was thinking I am a badass for being able to make my ears move up and down.
Really great insight here! Enjoyed this tremendously! One thing would be cool for you to check out when you have a moment to go down the youtube rabbit hole....is how people who study under an "umbrella term" of American dance called "popping" actually practice these types of "muscle control" movement/isolations. Of course its not for showing physique rather many times its about creating an illusion to bring forth a "movement concept" and or actually dancing (as in expressing rhythmic, melodic and timing occurrence in response to the music). Its certainly a VERY studied art-form that uses very similar principals.
Muscle control does still pop up now and again as party tricks. My grandfather could wriggle his ears and I can isolate my scalp. I'd love to implement muscle control properly like the old school physical culturists
I can move my ears too... and I just realized I can move them separately.
The story behind that skill still makes me smile: in primary school, a child in my class (I don't remember him/her) bragged about being able to move his/her ears. All chilsren in the class were so impressed rhzt we all de ided to move our ears too. Every time a new child could move his ears, the other worked harder to do the same. I was so proud when I managed to move my ears!
25+ tears later, I recently moved next to one children's mother, and therefore sometimes meet one of my old classmates. I should ask her if she remembers the ear-challenge and is still able to move them. I would be lucky if she doesn't call the psychiatric hospital. 😂
Interesting story. It demonstrates the power of the human mind. We can just decide to develop the ability to move muscles, practice, and then we gain control@@grenade8572
Yeah, same here. I have always been able to control my hamstrings, but now that I know I can do that with my whole body, oh boy, this is going to be fun. :D
Contrary to what most steroid users say, the vast majority of people are natural. This channel is better than the average fitness influencer’s because 99% of people can relate.
Woooow author well done, this is a real bodybuilding which is worth to learn ! An art of body will stay with you forever untill an old age, not like for modern bodybuilders, after 6 months without training they looks like sausages
I'm surprise you haven't done a video on Harry Houdini. If there was every a golden age dude it was him. Muscle control, impressive physique to pull off his magic tricks; his legs stand out in any era. Great channel.
bro, your videos are the best I’m starting to see copycats pop-up, but you have my heart😂
Super interesting. Just think how much gained knowledge and practices are lost. Let alone in bodybuilding. That doesn't mean that no one knew on Earth knew that this was effective but it means that the populous doesn't. Therefore it is lost. Cool stuff.
I went and learned how to do the abdominal tendon one pretty recently, and am working on my single column of abs.
Wait.... THAT Chandrashekar? Dude was pivotal in figuring out the mass limit of white dwarf stars. Man is a legend in astrophysics too!
Natty, I’m not sure if this comment reaches you, but I wanna share my experience.
Before I tell my story, I wanna say that Steroids are also added to medications. Especially the ones that are supposed to heal allergies. People should be very careful before taking any of such drugs.
So now about my story: when I was 10 years old, I developed terrible allergies, over basically everything. Most of the food that I consumed gave me allergies which resulted in coughing, excessive mucus production, severe sinus infections and throat irritation.
My doctor prescribed me shots, which were supposed to strengthen my immune system and also prevent allergies from occurring.
As you can probably guess, those shots contained steroids (which she did NOT inform my mother about, and also I had NO IDEA)
She gave me those shots every 3 days for 1 month. And then repeated the same procedure for over 3 YEARS.
As you know, during that age, girls start to grow and turn into adults, so messing up hormones can be devastating for health, especially by using drugs that contain steroids.
Soon after, my appetite increased rapidly and I wanted to eat literally 24 hours. Even while I was sleeping, I was seeing dreams about food and then woke up to eat. I gained weight, developed a terrible acne, almost the same type that you showed in one of your previous videos on Steroids. All over my face and body. They appeared every single day for years and would not stop despite all anti acne creams and antibiotics. My skin became very oily too.
I started to develop some pain and stiffness in my back and shoulders area, even though I didn’t do any exercise. My mood changed to very aggressive and basically angry all the time. I just wanted to fight everyone. I lost significant amount of hair on my scalp, especially top front area.
I developed problems with food digestion, horrible menstrual pain and my hormone levels went crazy, especially my testosterone level was even higher than what is supposed to be normal for MEN! In a 10 - 11 year girl…
All of these problems appeared and I suffered for soo many years because of these.. let alone all other psychological issues that also developed along with other symptoms.. im 25 years old now and I STILL take female hormones to regulate my cycle and basically everything.. and I still need to check it every 6 months to make sure it doesn’t go crazy again. I’m also at risk of not being able to get pregnant and have kids. So I’m monitoring carefully…
So this was my story and I didn’t even tell all of it, I tried to keep it as short as possible.
Guys, please DO NOT use any kind of drugs and also be careful with other medically prescribed medications and make sure they don’t contain steroids, especially when it comes to anti allergies drugs.
I hope you learned something from this. Take care
The steroids you took, corticosteroids, are totally different from testosterone or anabolic steroids. I had a severe autoimmune condition in the past and had to go on high dose corticosteroids, which caused widespread muscle wasting, large amounts of fat gain, and a redistribution of fat onto the face and torso away from the limbs. It also weakened my bones to the point where my leg joints spontaneously crumbled under their own weight. This is because cortisol, the steroid hormone we took, is a stress hormone, so your body reorients your metabolism entirely around saving as much energy as possible, leeching nutrients from your bones and brain to put on fat (which is intended to help you survive famine).
Testosterone on the other hand reduces fat gain, and builds muscle.