A critique of Sam Sulek, steroid use normalization and modern bodybuilding in general. Second channel: @mynattylife Spanish channel: @NattyLifeES Natty Talk playlist: • Natty Talk
This video is also available in Spanish: ruclips.net/video/Qjo4_wBFxys/видео.html Translated and narrated by my girlfriend, who you see in this video :)
Bodybuilding and strenght sports like powerlifting, strongman, arm wrestling are all unregulated and dependent on juicing. Of course a lot of athletes juice but at least there are regulations against it unlike the ones above where juicing is expected. Seeing how accessible and widespread steroids are, I just don't see how it can be stopped.
yeah and looking like average guy who diets. yet, if you do this - please fix your partners form before recording it, unlike this guy. It just makes me angry when you critiques someone with FLAWS in you. Someone who just does what he loves.
Not just roids, but other PEDs like SARMs and MK677. I have a natty friend at the gym who is in the top 1% of natty physiques and strength who is talking about taking MK677 during his next bulk. No real reason, he doesn't have a problem putting on weight. He's just been influenced into thinking an experimental drug isn't a big deal, he doesn't want to take gear but has talked openly about TRT when he's older. I just think we've normalized so many maladaptive ideas and behaviors through our collective use of social media. Someone has to push back on this, those within the enhanced community don't do enough. Nobody is even fazed by the deaths anymore. Pete Rubish is one of the only guys I respect, he was very open about the horrible side effects he had, and he went cold turkey. He's now a runner who lifts on the side, still pulling 550 on deadlift after not touching it for 3 months and after running 9 miles earlier in the day. He's dropped down to 200-ish pounds and looks 10+ years younger than he did 5 years ago! He seems to really regret using, and he was a guy at the highest levels of powerlifting and social media clout.
He should start a RUclips channel and training business..just market his crazy natural physique and the people will throw money at him. Steroids are for losers and top competitive bodybuilders.
@@bobjohnson1633 A counter culture for body building would be great. Plus from what I understand, most women don’t really find the roided look as appealing.
Steroids are just mean to achieve the goal. Real culprit is social media and attention. Take away attention and social media and literally nobody outside of few hobbyist who do this shit because for the love of sport and chemical side of things would take steroids.
Man, you're doing a great job raising awareness among younger people, and even older people, not to fall for the nonsense of using these drugs. We are together, my brother! And speaking of which, your shape is great, from now on it's just evolution. Take care, brother!
Yep, I hope you continue making videos, its a breath of fresh air in the comunity, it reminds me a bit of the earlier videos of vegan gains when he called out many many influencers for their shitty advices and unhealthy habits.
@@NattyLifeYT One of the worst videos i've seen in a while. You're saying that it's obvious to anyone that Sam is on juice, so are 99% of fitness influencers and 1. if you juice without even knowing sides you failed as a human being 2. if you juice you're not gonna look like those influencers cuz your genes aren't anywhere close, 3. hope you get some cash out of this video lil bro
he has: 1) decent physique for a user 2) money what do you have? Are you sure you physique are DECENT for a natural? Im pretty sure not. Do you have money for the rest of your life by doing what you love? shame people like you exist. I NEVER watched any of the Sam's vid, Im not interested. But guy doing what he loves (not drinking and writing shit on youtube) and gets fame for who he is. WOW, shame, right? Because of people like you world is doomed.
yeah im the same age as him, born two months apart. it's so insane what hes doing but i definitely respect him and his decisions. i prefer staying lean, i stuck with a swimmer build since i started because i feel the best that way. i still watch him quite a bit cuz he is genuinely very knowledgeable about bodybuilding and he seems to be a good guy. also he doesn't promote steroids or anything he's just honest about what hes taking, which is pretty commendable.
This is EXACTLY how I’ve felt! I’m glad that there are definitely tons of natural athletes that wouldn’t ever touch steroids. I’m a certified PT and I’m going to make videos soon!
by natural athletes you mean guys who work out or actual ATHLETES? taking steroids and not competing is stupid. doing bodybuilding (real one) without steroids - is even more stupid and unhealthy. lets just please learn something about what bodybuilding means (natural or not). And not call (for example) people on the video - bodybuilders. they are not. They are people who work out.
We don't need more young men to repeat the failures of Zyzz, Shawn Rhoden, Joe Lindner, Rich Piana, Cedric McMillan, George Peterson, Andreas Münzer, Ben Harnett, Dallas McCarver, Jerry Wane Ward, Bostin Loyd etc.
I didn’t know Bostin Loyd died… I remember that he got a video years ago being a teenager on steroids and an amazing 1 year transformation. On the comments some people where saying he will die soon. Well they were right.
I couldn't agree with this video more. As a 76 year old who still works out with weights I began my journey into bodybuilding at age 15. As many young men at that time I was inspired by the classic physiques of Steve Reeves, Reg Park, Clarence Ross, John Grimek and others of that era. I was fanatic about watching my diet, taking protein supplements, drinking only water and milk and living a heathy lifestyle. My first experience with a bodybuilder who used steroids came when in 1967 when I was at Ft. Sam Houston in 1967. I came out of basic training weighing 155 lbs but in 10 weeks working out in our company gym, which rivaled a Gold's Gym, I had the opportunity to meet and workout with a former Mr. Illinois. He was a big fellow, over 220 lbs with a barrel chest. We became training partners and after 10 weeks I had gained 30 lbs of muscle! I was bench pressing over 325 lbs and squatting over 400 lbs. He was really excited about my progress and said that I was ready to go to the next level, meaning taking Dianabol. I told him that I wasn't interested in taking drugs and that I was into bodybuilding to improve my body and to remain healthy. He told me that if I didn't take steroids that I would never be successful in bodybuilding contests. I told him that I could live with that. Over the years I have had the opportunity to meet Chris Dickerson who later won the Mr. Olympia contest and Kevin Levrone who placed 2nd several times in the Mr. Olympia contest. I have never regretted my decision not to take steroids to aid in building my physique. I built 18" arms and a 47" chest the natural way and I still work out to maintain my strength although now my main goal is not getting injured. Steroids have ruined bodybuilding, professional wrestling, football and other sports as well. When I see stories of young men dying at an early age as a result of steroid abuse it makes me sad and a bit angry because these people are living for the moment and gambling with their future.
Calling out football is a big no-no. It's fine to criticize bodybuilding and baseball but don't go there with football. That's when you look away and make believe that everyone is natural.
I haven't the slightest idea of where he is now or if he is still alive. This all happened in 1967 when we were in the Army training as combat medics.@@FrostySauce
What's worse is that nobody fools themself enough to consider a pro bodybuilder something like a friend. Sam Suleks videos are exactly like this though, his comment section is infested with victims of a parasocial relationship, pretending that the guy is basically their best buddy which only increases the potential dangers of this type of idolization, you should never obsess over anyone at all. It's not his fault, this just happens on the internet, I just wish it was more common to realize this is happening and not just falling into the trap.
you could say the same for every form of media, movies,series, other yt channels, books and games. whats your point? we consume too much media? thats a given, there are worse things to watch imo than a massive guy talking about whatever comes to his mind and about fucking pumps. at least he has a respectable personality and behavior, not easy to say the same for most popular modern heroe figueres, the majority of which are dishonest, pretentious and narcissistic.
As a user of drugs that allow me not to kill myself I'd say there is a difference here, mental illness is like any other illness, sometimes you can't deal with it "naturally"
@@britainman3459he wasn't talking about himself but criticizing people who do live like he described. The final sentence would come with a sarcastic tone
Amazing that the idea to take drugs with side effects and take more drugs to fight those side effects with more side effects and the problems never ends.
@@ShaneBoynot wrong. Most over 50 are on something to remedy symptoms of something, and are on at least one other drug to remedy the symptoms of the original drug. A lot think this is normal
@@brucejensen3081it's a uniquely American thing. I read something the other day that went something like, "the US consists of 4% of the world's population, and yet uses over 80% of the world's opiates and amphetamines." I suspect it's a similar statistic with most drugs
Reeves lives in a time when body building had better ideals based on health and balance... Todays era of bodybuilders is based on distorted perceptions and mass via drugs..its a joke and everyone knows it
I think everyone should try to look like themselves, or at least the healthiest version of themselves, trying to look like someone you’re not is what makes people do things like steroids, plastic surgery and what not. Just be yourself.
@@richardlawson6787maybe, but this kid is literally wider than Arnold at 21, and already has really bad side effects. I don't think he's being smart about his use at all.
I stopped watching Sam once he went on accutane weirdly enough. When I was in high school I developed cycstic acne and it was horrible, so accutane was the only option. When you go on that drug you are presented with a giant fold-out pamphlet of the list of side effects. It's extremely harsh on the body, I suffered from depression, stomach cramps, and my lips peeling off the whole way through. It's extremely hard on your kidneys and if you're already on steroids I can't imagine the damage it will do. When I saw Sam go on accutane to curb his acne I couldn't get over how casually he took it, and what he must already be putting his body through. It completely turned me off from his channel because I do not believe he will see past 30, I honestly don't know if he will even make it another 5 years. You can watch him turn red and dyspneic from just sitting in his car or talking which happened to Rich Piana towards the end of his life. I volunteer EMS and I can tell you this dude is in really really bad shape, he's showing all the signs of heart failure and it's getting worse. The last thing is that I've been going to the gym for years, and now I'm seeing tons of kids pour in copying his training style. They know he's on roids but still copy what he does as if it still applies to them. People are quick to hate on fake natties (e.g. David Laid) but a lot of guys could achieve a close enough physique while staying lean and off drugs. Sam is whole different beast, where following his regimen as a natural lifter will not get you even close to how he looks and he's clearly abusing steroids which might push people to do the same. Idk man, this whole situation is massively fucked up.
I think 🤔 what X does versus what they did to get there is a thing that would be valuable. Of course it probably pales in comparison with other natty transformations but I gained a lot of muscle with full body workouts. To a point. Then I found I could add another set and another and did that. Too exhausting. So I switched to push pull split, for the most part. . Usually doing legs with either one. So my advice wouldn't be push pull ( legs ) for a beginner. Or doing 6 sets. Just trying to do the same thing as someone else with different weights, natty or not, is probably not the best idea. I remember being toast after 3 good sets.
Womp womp If you really think sams gonna die that soon then you have no idea what you're talking about. Nick Walker is 30+ and no one takes more steroids than that dude.
Man Ive done acutane for a year and a half and yes my skin was dry as fuck and my bottom lip was ALWAYS bleeding but it honestly wasnt that bad. The side effects are different for everyone and most people dont get super depressed
Thank you for mentioning. Accutane gave me a rare autoimmune disease when I was 15, although I stopped using it after 2-3 weeks already. The autoimmune disease is fully healed (I‘m 29 now) but the triggered kidney insufficiency remains and I am expected to take drugs for my kidneys for the rest of my life to avoid a dialysis. It‘s so sad that having taken medications against acne for 2-3 weeks during my teenage life has given me tragedic side effects for the remainder of my life.
Steve reeves, reg park and other silver era classic bodybuilders looked far better and healthier then todays body builders and the classic physics were based on different ideals then today . Todays bodybuilding is a joke seen as a joke
It makes sense that natural bodybuilding, like any sport, would evolve over time. We have way more knowledge than Steve Reeves had 70 years ago. We have non-competitive natural gym rats walking around looking comparable to Steve Reeves lol. We know shredded glutes are possible and we know how to maximize our gains from head to toe. I want to see freak factor on stage, and as a natty, conditioning + a complete physique is the only way to bring that freak factor. Today's bodybuilding is way more exciting and interesting than the silver era could have ever hoped to be. Sure, the silver era guys look more ATTRACTIVE in the every day sense, but we're talking about competitive bodybuilding here. @@RavageReeves
@@555donuts not really, that’s only happens if you have too much preservatives in your system. Sweating Never happened in the golden era yet they weren’t extremely ripped.
I used testosterone for 8 months, I was 17/18, I'm 20 now. This channel helped me realize that I did not need it at all and I have been off for 2 years. More size came with the side effects, Body dismorphia, acne on my back and gyno. Looking at social media influencers using gear, I thought it was normal. This channel is the main reason I haven't gone back. I like Sam and respect all the other bodybuilders regardless of gear use, but taking 40 years off my life for an extra 30-50 pounds of muscle that won't even look good, no thanks. Gracias, mi corazon te lo agradece, literalmente. Fisico cultismo natural es la mejor ruta a la larga.
Comments like this make my day bro, thank you for sharing your experience. When I hear people say my content discouraged them from steroids it makes me feel like I all the time I spent on the videos has more than paid off. Best wishes to you 💪
When it comes to using gear u really gotta do ur research before hopping on u cant just take it bc u think its a normalized thing now. Do ur research and dont take any before 21 thats dumb also people respond differently to gear and iidk why anyone who doesn't take dis sport serious would even hop on, just ruining your health. Get your training and diet right + research and knowledge before even thinking abt touching the stuff.
“One of the side effects of steroid abuse is getting very big muscles, so it’s all good” cracked me up. You deliver your points in a very balanced and well spoken manner. Great video ^^
Unpopular opinion: I think bodybuilding is NOT a sport. Let's be real: it's a beauty contest. That's it. A toxic beauty contest. Does it take effort and hard work etc? Yes it does, but at the end of the day all it is about is looking "good", even if you don't actually compete. That's why the merit of the work is shadowed by the final results. Do I enjoy looking at these montrosities of dudes? Yes I do. And I also know they could die at any moment.
I don't get why everybody calls him a "nice, chill guy" when he makes content shaming people for being "small". He's actively contributing to body dysmorphia and perpetuating the idea that men should all want to be as huge as possible.
I've questioned the same thing for years. Bodybuilding used to be about the "beach body" look and was not only healthier, but much more visually appealing with some mainstream attention. Then since probably Dorian (big fan but just being real) it became a freak show. It's ALL about pharmacology now. Not a coincidence that it's more niche than ever. I definitely would love to see the classic standard come back.
Right . Like back in the day, if you were strong as hell, you were what everyone wanted to be . And as a side effect of being strong , you gained muscle . That’s all everyone wanted was to be super strong. Now it’s just “ how much can I look like I can lift “
Totally agreed people really need to realise that the whole bodybuilding sport has become the foundation of unhealthy drug abuse from getting in the best shape possible and staying healty
Yeah that "Beach Body" is the best looking type of body and my goals, modern bodybuilding just looks awful, even the natural part of it. The bodybuilders themselves naturally might look well but on stage is a whole another story.
Sulek is not an example to follow but he is the product of what influencers are at the moment. Not going to lie mate: IT IS ON US TO PUSH BACK yes with explanations but even more leading the way. There are a great number of young people abusing steroids because they think it is not worth doing differently. We must be the ones to show the way. If we don't lead they will lead. We have to be the Goggins of body building and aesthetics.
Proud lifetime natty here who’s continued making slow & steady gains through the years. Always makes me sad when I hear people actually believe that they need to jump on gear to keep making gains after only a couple/few years of lifting. I appreciate your honest take on this topic, and while I believe everyone can do whatever they want with their bodies, taking drugs to achieve a physique faster or on a higher level in general is very short sighted and something that most people will come to regret with all the negative side effects that frequently accompany steroid/PED use. Great video and messaging! 💪
I really enjoy Sam Sulek's videos but you are honestly correct on everything. I want to see Sam being healthy, and even if his size decreases, I would much much rather see that as opposed to him succumbing to his copious steroid usage.
Yup, a lot of us like Sam because of who he is, not the drugs, but we want him to make videos as long as possible, hopefully one day we can see him go natty
Ironically enough he’s at that border between natty attainable and outright mass monster. It would be great if he quite asap he wouldn’t lose a ton of size either.
@@justchilling704Nothing natty looking about his current physique, it's literally one of those physiques you look and see instantly it's roided, his massive back, capped shoulders and baloon chest are a dead giveaway. Iike Sam a lot, but i don't think he is looking healthy at all
@@fernandomaron87 Compare him to the professional body builders and you’ll see what I mean. He’s at about the level of muscle the Golden age guys were. He’s not a mass monster, so if he stopped he keep the overall majority of muscle tissue.
I wish more people would come out and say what you are saying. The current generation has an even more distorted perception of what is naturally possible than prior generations, because they are bombarded by the imagery put forth by "fitness influencers" on social media - many of who use PEDs.
True classic bodybuilding there isn't Arnold Schwarzenegger Promoted health and fitness but also steroid use I got people wanting to be bigger and bigger and bigger than Arnold How many 18 year olds are going to look at bronze or silver era physique and say I want to look like that
I want to make a confession here. When I started with the sport I was seriously thinking about taking roids. I did my research and learned a lot. In the end, what convinced me to not take them was the price. To get the good roids you pay a heavty price. Than you pay even more to get rid of the side effects. In the end I calculated c.a. 700€ a month just for the drugs. Together with a good gym and the cost for a better meal plan, it would have been a 1000€ every month. Long term effects aren't even in there.
I'm not trying to convince you to take steroids, but wherever you were looking you were about to get seriously ripped off. Steroids are cheap. A testosterone cycle can cost you as little as 25€ a month. Even pretty heavy cycles can be done for under 100 easily. In many countries in Europe you can buy testosterone amps from a pharmacy for like 5€ each, in theory you need a prescription but in practice you just need to know a guy who works there.
All you have to do is look at the guy's complexion to realize that something is seriously messed up internally, and will continue to get worse if he continues down the same path. He's headed for a heart attack, an aneurysm, all kinds of deep muscle tears or straight up mental illness. He's sacrificing himself on an altar, and it's pretty sick.
As an always and ALL WAYS all-natural 54-year-old female bodybuilder bodybuilding for over 41+ years (started at 13), I completely agree with what you are saying here. Recently, I was wondering why there is not a community of those like myself who are lifelong non-competitive bodybuilders because we make up the majority of bodybuilders. Those who merely appear to be seen the most do not represent to ANY accuracy what bodybuilding really is and the spirit of it is. Thus, the solution is for more all-natural bodybuilders to engage in social media and show people what a normal, non-chemically enhanced physique looks like and how they achieve it through balanced nutrition, balanced workouts, stemming from a balanced mind that is aware that "more and more often with pharmaceuticals" is NOT the answer for a healthy long life. At 54, I am in the top 3% of health and physique and have had breast cancer. I am living proof that while it is true life happens, one can become a living example of what a true natural aesthetic and healthy physique looks and functions. Unfortunately, with over two-dozen young "enhanced" bodybuilders dying last year, these and those who are following in their footsteps will never know what it is to live to be 40 much less 50+. Thank you for making this video to open dialogue on this very serious issue. I say we form a community called "Natural Natty Life".
I would like to see how you look like, but not everyone wants to be exposed on social medias. . I'm a totally beginner and a woman. There is a big lack of : 1) True natty bodies 2) Women bodybuilders 3) "Elderly" boldybuilders (= people who can exercize after 40s because they didn't mess up their bodies) 4) No photoshopped shoots...
There already is a great community of natural bodybuilders however, called the "noble natties". Rather than form a seperate community we can join the noble natties to make the noble natties even more powerful
Agree with your points completely. Best video about Sulek so far. I really like how you don't mince words, people have been too political and apologetic about this topic. Well done. Silver Era mindset is where it's at. Physique, aesthetics, longevity, health. Steve Reeves wanted to live to 100. If he hadn't tragically died of a pulmonary embolism after surgery, I firmly believe he's still be alive. He'd be 97 today.
i've competed natural competition before, i just realized that i've competed against cheaters, i won 3rd place, so i looked back and checked all the pictures they took and i just fuckin realized this 1st and 2nd places dudes won they been using something! pissed me off how i lost, i would have won 1st place. Things are gettin weird and weirder in 2023
It's starting to blow up. I had this channel randomly in my reco a few days ago, and now I'm binge watching it. I hope the algorithm will keep going with the good job.
Every lifter knows the temptation of steroids. Young people are just inconsiderate of their future selves. Bostin Loyd used to talk about how he didn't care about taking years off his life, but he definitely didn't feel that way when he was on dialysis at 28, then dead at 29. The older you get, the more happy you'll be with your decision to stay natural. I'm not jealous of the steroid heads in my gym, I'm glad I never got on that train.
The bodybuilding community has become so toxic most people don't believe you can achieve a good physique with a cocktail of drugs. Worried for the future generations
Training for 3 years now 5 times a week for 2 hours - been off the creatine and proteinshakes for over 6 months now and honestly nothing changed at all - just a balanced diet and hard work - bronze era forever!
Oh for sure it´s very healthy and beneficial! But I just thought to myself nobody back in the days used 3-5 g Creatine a day so why should I@@mohammed_44er
Bodybuilding was about being healthy before all then being asthethic and naturally muscular while having peak natural physique nowadays bodybuilding is a freak death show
When looking healthy gets slandered and looking like you're about to cough out your liver to fill the space with lean mass gets standardized... Honestly what the fuck
Today's bodybuilding is not physically or asethically pleasing in anyway. Back then, most would love to look like the bronze and silver era guys but I doubt anyone would want to look like this new era
@@stevemann1299 Steve Reeves and Farnese Hercules are good archetypes of what to strive for. If you're naturally blessed with that V-taper structure, you could try to look like Steve Reeves. If not, Farnese Hercules is a better goal physique. Ultimately, it's impossible to look like somebody else so it's important not to get too caught up in the process.
@@anonymousman4419 Just be the best you can be. Being in shape and healthy is numero uno. The problem we have in 2024. Is people who cheated their way to their physiques. Fooling the gullible young men to think they can get that on Chicken and Broccoli. I would rather look like Marlon Brando in Street Car. Than any of these drugged frauds on yourube..
I've lifted for 32 years now - obviously always naturally. Long term health should be the goal for everyone and taking roids for most people is ridiculous. The top guys are massive but they are not healthy and I can't see them living healthy long lives. A real shame.
I can't overstate the importance of the work you're doing to call out what's happening and to break it down so clearly. I hope you keep it up, your voice is needed.
As someone who comes from a severely anorexic background, I find this absolutely fascinating. I was thrown in the hospital so many times, and certified more than once when I turned 18 and refused to go. Yet, for drugged up body builders, nothing. It's obviously a mental illness, they obviously have body dysmorphia, it kills at higher rates than anorexia, over a shorter period of time, and nothing! Their families don't appear to be freaking out, viewers who'd flip right out on Eugenia Cooney are fine with this, and nobody is talking about the impact it has on boys, and men in midlife who become vulnerable as they're starting to lose strength. There's no treatment centres, as far as I know it's not in the DSM, psychiatrists aren't out in droves talking about it, and promotion of an activity that is being abused in a way that destroys bodies is not even up for debate. The lack of response is bizarre - completely fascinating - but bizarre.
Because it's an art form. Hundreds of people visit the Olympia to see Chris Bumstead and millions share and view his videos while no one wants to see an ugly anorexic rib cage.
Yeah, well said. The medical / psychological fields and discussions seem very out of touch and often just won't acknowledge issues like this with any degree of seriousness. I wouldn't even say this is as widespread as anorexia for girls and women, but it definitely can have, and is already having a big impact on lots of guys' self esteem at all ages - and who knows, maybe it could become as widespread if left unchecked. I think it goes a lot deeper than just this stuff though, seeing lots of young guys with really bad anxiety and self esteem it is one of many issues that does not get spoken about very transparently and just generally the pressures young boys and guys in general are faced with are not taken very seriously or even talked about and that seems pretty stupid if ya ask me.
Just had a health youtuber asking me why I think his healthy lean bodybuilder with a bmi of 30. (competition Schwarzenegger) would need strong kidneys and heart.
It is in the DSM imo. It's just high level narcissism. How could you not be a narcissist when you're a pro level bodybuilder? Your entire life revolves around yourself and being as muscular as possible, for others (the judges), not even for yourself.
Where do you draw the line? Should we start sectioning people for being too jacked? The thing about freedom and personal autonomy is that people for better or worse a lot of times are allowed to make unhealthy decisions. I don't think it should be up to other people to intervene except in dire situations. And I even have conflicting views on that.
I was in my late thirties when I tried a cycle. That's after 20 years of weight lifting. I used them for the next fifteen years. When I finally went heavy. That's when I had side effects. Knew eventually that it dead end. Now that I got away from them. I lift only a fraction of the weight. It is a slippy slope. And you are 100% correct.
Real bodybuildong is much more about the journey than it is about simply getting jacked. If you offered me the body of my dreams magically i would decline, because i would be cheating myself out of the personal growth that comes with natural bodybuilding, but nowadays nothing works like this anymore, everything has to be immediate and easily marketable to the outside world, you have to fit in an instagram post, what is unimportant. Channels like this are a natural reaction to modern bodybuilding (pun intended) and they're definitely having a positive impact in the community. Keep up the great work and thanks for making the spanish channel! Un abrazo desde Sevilla!
So happy for this channel. You seem like a very wholesome guy. Keep it up! This channel always inspire me on my natural Journey of health after years of drug abuse (not roids). Thank you! May the light always guide your heart.
I take great pride in being “stock” after having been on a mission to not be a skinny whimp, since 2015. While I wouldn’t pass as a social media influencer, I never had to do drugs to get attention and compliments IRL. The trick was developing my shoulders to get a good shoulder:hip ratio. Obviously don’t shoulder max without setting up the rest of your body so it’s proportionally developed, you don’t want muscular imbalances and bad aesthetics. But that’s the secret, younger fellas. Shoulder:hip ratio will make the rest of your work stand out.
Excellent video. Your channel is a huge motivation to stay natural, and it's great to see that others feel the same way I do. Also, you're definitely making good gains, you can really see in your recent videos. Keep up the hard work, and know that your crusade isn't falling on deaf ears.
What a marvellous message you have sent out Dante. It's great to see you and your partner and pet at the end, like a wonderful family that is enjoying health and life which the development of natural strength brings. I think I may have said this before, but I will say it again...modern bodybuilding is nothing more than chemically enhanced muscular obesity. Why "muscular obesity", because the amount of muscle obtained puts the body in an obese state. And if you understand obesity, obesity can be morbid, which means that it can cause disease. The physiques are taken to a point that is not just unattainable, but that causes disease. It is no surprise that most modern BB that push the limit die of cardiovascular or kidney issues, and if you compare the blood parameters of BB who have passed away, the results shows that they were suffering from severe metabolic disease. This modern drug trend is no longer a reflection of health and strength, but a chemical race to be the biggest, freakiest guy on stage, and an unfortunate race to the grave.
Thank you brother! You’re absolutely right. I’m so disgusted by the current state of things that I almost want to distance myself from the word bodybuilding. I might just start calling what we do physical culture instead 😁
@@NattyLifeYT well then that's what we should do. Bodybuilding has become a drug culture, whilst natural lifting is truly the cultivation of one's body and mind...physical culture. If the natural community is experiencing a new renaissance..then we are essentially experiencing the return of physical culture
My steroid buddy at the gym is large and muscular, but so is his gut. He looks like a muscular, fat guy. It's as silly as watching obese people compete in Iron Man competitions. Just because you can do it, doesn't mean you should.
Y’all are gonna hate me for this but, 2011-2017 Men’s Physique was the most Aesthetic period in all of history. Right before they turned into Classic competitors. They looked awesome and certain people might actually be able to reach that naturally. That’s what I’m shooting for. Sadik, Ferguson, Buendia, they looked awesome back then before they turned into massive Fiends.
started Bodybuilding at 17 , never took any drugs, i was duped for first few years thinking i could look like Arnold or Lee Haney natural. I got prtty big as far as natural goes, 18"arms, 53"chest, 26" legs, 17 1/2 " calves, but i hit a genetic limit and when i was offered drugs in the gym after 7-8 super hard years lifting i told them hell no! I NEVER regretted that decision, Now im 50 and look 30 cause ive allways trained natural (noticed when people used steroids it unnaturally ages them)
Seeing the attitude people have towards steroids abusers makes it explicit how hypocrite they are when bullying fat people claiming it is because "being fat is bad for their health, so I'm doing them a favor by shamming". While it is technically true that being morbidly obese have multiple side effects on health, a person slightly fat can (and very often is) healthier than someone severely skinny. Also if it is unhealthy or not, and how much, is beyond the point and irrelevant, since what really matter to those people is that they do not like the looks, and they associate fatness with a "disease of the soul" (being lazy, unsuccessful, unable to take action, etc). People do not bully smokers, steroid users, people who do extreme (and dangerous) plastic surgeries (as long as the final result looks right), etc. I think people should seek to achieve their best selves, putting health before any other goal. And maybe that fatty person you are bullying is overall healthier than you sitting in your couch and have applied more effort into their physique than you ever will, but their genetics makes it very hard to get rid of those last sacks. Also, it is none of your business.
Once a life-enhancing endeavor, now life-shortening, and for achievements that are fleeting and illusory. Stay natural, people - those around you will be forever grateful. 💪
Bronze and Silver Era would be sad to see this. Even golden Era guys like Arnold dont really like those freak bodybuilders. for me it would be ok if there are different classes that have high level natural bodybuilders in it. But even the natural classes nowadays often look roided. and the overall flexibility and muscle control is totally lost in bodybuilding nowadays. but to be honest.. lots of testosterone abuse comes from low test levels in general. nowadays test levels are way lower then in the past. Its our food, water, air.. lifestyle, clothing etc. (-30 to -50% lower test levels nowadays!) So many feel already weak and chose roids. Just to be a bit more masculine and stronger. And im sure many then get addicted to the "power" it gives u. and gaining natural testosterone is hard.. no fap is hard.. clean eating can be hard.. and all those things like maca, ashwaganda etc. just help a little and is hardly noticeable.
You bring up some good points and I’m not sure on the solution. I think the environmental factors need to be better labeled, like what clothes specifically have hormone-similar compounds. We have done this with BPA bottles and now most bottles are BPA free, by merely shining a light on it people can better make choices that will have a positive effect on their hormones. Lifestyle factors are still being studied, things like no fap don’t seem to effect testosterone but I’m sure there are a litany of other lifestyle factors that are important. Lastly there’s diet, and the war on fat is terrible for hormones but fortunately that has been shown to be misguided however with the large variety of foods it can be hard to tell what exactly could be effecting hormones so negatively, soy for example has been demonized but now studies have shown that the hormones might have a negligible effect and with dairy, etc. who knows.
"Even golden Era guys like Arnold dont really like those freak bodybuilders" implys that even guys who did roids often dislike freakish mass monsters.@@spindriftdrinker
@@elQuestionare You could very well be correct about that - but here is the point. Think of an early steroid user ( like Arnold ?) who might be envious of guys at a later date benefiting from more powerful drugs and knowledge who are bigger. That kind of envious dislike is a very different thing from the dislike shown by Mr. Natty Life who is against all steroids.
You got yourself a subscriber. Well put and close to how i feel about these horrible modern trends in the fitness/socialmedia areas. It's crazy how many people are so clueless and get sucked in by these influencers.
Wholeheartedly agree. Bodybuilding more than anything to me was once an art and representation of the ultimate physical aspect. It embraced beauty and function. It saddens me greatly to see so many traceable bodies now claiming that it is still "Bodybuilding" it is no longer the carving of rock into a masterpiece, but an assembly line of slapped on clay.
I feel like sulek is less of an example you want to follow and more of an inspiration and motivation, I agree normalization of steroids is bad, but watching his videos and just listening is such a huge motivation to go lift and better myself. I refuse to use steroids, but I still look up to Sulek due to his pure dedication, and it’s hard to not be inspired to go lift when you see someone pushing themselves that hard.
There are a good number of natties on social media, with every bit as much dedication as juice boy. So your reason for supporting a guy who perpetuates steroid use in young men is crap, and you're doing a bad thing.
I like Sam Sulek’s personality a lot, and his training musings are applicable to natty guys. But every time I think about how much I like him, I always add “better enjoy him while he’s still alive”.
Arnold Schwarzenegger, Kai Greene, Ronnie Coleman, Jay Cutler, Phil Heath, Dorian Yates. These are a few examples of bodybuilders who did copious amounts of steroids through many years, most of them in a reckless manner and they are still here, alive breathing. It's not like what Sam Sulek does is something new. In fact I bet he does it in a more safe manner since there is more information about ''safe'' steroids usage than ever. Not saying it is healthy, but to act like no one has done this before is just stupid.
@@edmundvalero6841agreed. people here talk like we live in a cave and know nothing. meanwhile pro bb is around for many years and athletes go insane and then just hop off gear (eg Kevin Levrone) and just keep on living healthily with millions of dollars and feeling of contentment about their life.
@@edmundvalero6841 Really hope Sam just comes out one day about his use and what does to be safe. Think it would ease everyone's worries if we know how much he's taking and if he's being safe. Dude is so chill and I like his vids. Just don't want the dude to go out young. Crazy thing also, We already saw the bad crazy side effects whatever he took cause his skin looks bad. He got the acne under control but it was so bad months ago.
There is a new era of lifting coming soon, more and more TRUE admirers of the physical culture are coming together and recognizing the short comings that we as a society have accepted, it’s time for change
I was into bodybuilding in my early 20ies, around 2013-2015. Nothing has changed since then. Just the faces of the drug abusers. Disgusting mass monsters who shame others on "not doing enough", "not giving their whole heart to the sport" etc. They're never talking about health, they're just talking about eating "more, more, more, more, more" (quote from Rich Piana). Bigorexia is a thing.
Excellent analysis NL. Sulek has been on my mind for a while and I didn’t want to hate on him bc I felt like there’s was something more at bay rather than ripping on the guy for steroids and you explained it all well.
I love this channel so much. Not only the insights from the health and past bodybuilding era, but for the present too, that is possible to achieve the best form of yourself in a world full of people trying to sell the unreachable. While I like Sam Sulek workouts and the man itself, I pretty much agree with you. Bad influence for the youngsters, but I cant blame him either, this system is fucked up...
Do you know the concepts of standards and exceptions? You are the type of person to hear a 0.000007% chance of something happening and you go "but it can happen though"
@@captain_ares You seem very unknowledgeable on the subject and what actual athletes from that era said. Yet you took the time to write out that response… curious. I wonder what kind of person that makes you…
They definitely did ues steroids, it more thou that they ues to be uesd to just enchanting there natural good physical gens. Where as now it seems like there uesing good natural physical gens to enhancing there steroids uesing lol.
It’s crazy. If you go look at the last days of his bulk series… he does a physique check. He has a defined bulging six pack with chest and shoulder striations. And that is after a several month long bulk. A lot of which was dirty shit calories like whole boxes of cereal, gallons of milk, etc. It just shows how fucked the hormones are. Burning off everything that goes into the body.
God, this is such a breath of fresh air. I can only watch so many Greg Doucette or More Plates More Dates videos before I feel utterly disgusted about the state of the sport.
Definitely get on board with Alex Leonidas, GVS, Natural Hypertrophy, Basement Bodybuilding, Abel SD, Alan Thrall… Renaissance Periodization is probably the only steroid-friendly Chanel that gets a pass from me, just because Mike’s knowledge of training immense and he’s hysterically funny
Please keep making videos like this on your main channel. This is such an important message and it breaks my heart to see all these young guys in parasocial relationships with steroid users. 150k views on a video like this is basically unheard of, so please keep it up.
Well spoken, I've considered steroids in the past but always held off due to the health concerns, your videos convinced me once and for all just how stupid it would have been. And as to what has happened to the sport etc, you can see this sort of extremism in all layers of society since the event of social media - it doesn't really matter what we are discussing, things have been getting way more fanatical and polarized for the past 20 years to the point where I'm convinced all forms of social media is a social and psychological mindrot that needs to be curtailed before it's too late.
Great video, you held nothing back, it needed to be said & needs to be said more. The mass monsters & top level naturals are both the furthest from health. The greats of the past would vomit if they could see what it's all come to
This is definitely a very good video and point you are making and I think it touches an even bigger problem as well. That problem being no one wants to grind and go through the boring and hard parts, just like how you said a natural body builder reaches their “limit” but hasn’t actually done proper dieting and the proper sleep, water intake etc.Same thing with success so many people wanna be rich and social media just pushes this narrative that “do this and you’ll be rich quick” in reality it takes hard work, sacrifice, aka things that are boring and that are going to suck. Sorry for the rant
I fully agree with your message in this video. I also want to add that the real issue here is outcome focus, instead of process focus. The real beauty of training is the mental transformation that comes with the physical transformation. The knowledge that you, yourself did this with no outside assistance is incredibly empowering. Focus on the process and reap the benefits.
This video is also available in Spanish: ruclips.net/video/Qjo4_wBFxys/видео.html
Translated and narrated by my girlfriend, who you see in this video :)
Seems like an ok guy, but terrible influence. He's only 22, yet can't speak without gasping for air.
He will be a good martyr
His influence is no good
Is he roided? -> Net negative
Thats a wrong question .
Ask yourself , why is he idolized. Then it will occur to you
Modern bodybuilding is essentially a competition of *who can consume the most drugs without dying.*
rest in peace Shawn Rhoden, Momo Benaziza, and Nasser El Sonbaty
Like drag racing. The best teams can build an engine that goes exactly a quarter-mile without destroying itself.
The worst part is that they influence young men to do the same thing 💉.
Here is the difference: Guys like Steve Reeves and the classic era looked GOOD. The guys today look HORRIBLE
Bodybuilding and strenght sports like powerlifting, strongman, arm wrestling are all unregulated and dependent on juicing. Of course a lot of athletes juice but at least there are regulations against it unlike the ones above where juicing is expected. Seeing how accessible and widespread steroids are, I just don't see how it can be stopped.
Funny how it's a massive scandal if athletes in other sports are found to have taken steroids but in bodybuilding it's just general practice.
(They all take PEDs)
That's because body building isn't about performing physical feats. It's about looking a certain way, which is the way you look full of steroids.
It’s not that funny. It makes sense
Because bodybuilding is not a sport, It's a men beauty pageant. That's why it's a bodybuilding SHOW not a competition
@@TheArchiver Also because its modern form is irrelevant to the mainstream sports community mostly because of how freakish it became
Training in a home gym with your partner. That's a dream right there
yeah and looking like average guy who diets.
yet, if you do this - please fix your partners form before recording it, unlike this guy.
It just makes me angry when you critiques someone with FLAWS in you. Someone who just does what he loves.
@@RMJerich0 my guy, you are the definition of a loser.
@@RMJerich0 lol what
FOR REAL! literally said this exact statement out loud before looking at the comments haha.
Yes, and they can fuck after to count as cardio! Dream for sure😂
"Diet down to gulag levels" man that hit me outta nowhere 🤣
People got lost in the roids.
@@JDirty-w-tha-30too much sauce
Not just roids, but other PEDs like SARMs and MK677. I have a natty friend at the gym who is in the top 1% of natty physiques and strength who is talking about taking MK677 during his next bulk. No real reason, he doesn't have a problem putting on weight. He's just been influenced into thinking an experimental drug isn't a big deal, he doesn't want to take gear but has talked openly about TRT when he's older.
I just think we've normalized so many maladaptive ideas and behaviors through our collective use of social media. Someone has to push back on this, those within the enhanced community don't do enough. Nobody is even fazed by the deaths anymore.
Pete Rubish is one of the only guys I respect, he was very open about the horrible side effects he had, and he went cold turkey. He's now a runner who lifts on the side, still pulling 550 on deadlift after not touching it for 3 months and after running 9 miles earlier in the day. He's dropped down to 200-ish pounds and looks 10+ years younger than he did 5 years ago! He seems to really regret using, and he was a guy at the highest levels of powerlifting and social media clout.
He should start a RUclips channel and training business..just market his crazy natural physique and the people will throw money at him. Steroids are for losers and top competitive bodybuilders.
@@bobjohnson1633 A counter culture for body building would be great. Plus from what I understand, most women don’t really find the roided look as appealing.
Steroids are just mean to achieve the goal. Real culprit is social media and attention. Take away attention and social media and literally nobody outside of few hobbyist who do this shit because for the love of sport and chemical side of things would take steroids.
Man, you're doing a great job raising awareness among younger people, and even older people, not to fall for the nonsense of using these drugs. We are together, my brother! And speaking of which, your shape is great, from now on it's just evolution. Take care, brother!
Many thanks for your kind words bro!
Yep, I hope you continue making videos, its a breath of fresh air in the comunity, it reminds me a bit of the earlier videos of vegan gains when he called out many many influencers for their shitty advices and unhealthy habits.
@@NattyLifeYT One of the worst videos i've seen in a while. You're saying that it's obvious to anyone that Sam is on juice, so are 99% of fitness influencers and 1. if you juice without even knowing sides you failed as a human being 2. if you juice you're not gonna look like those influencers cuz your genes aren't anywhere close, 3. hope you get some cash out of this video lil bro
It truly is a shame that Sam is probably close to being middle aged and he’s barely in his 20’s
he has:
1) decent physique for a user
2) money
what do you have? Are you sure you physique are DECENT for a natural? Im pretty sure not.
Do you have money for the rest of your life by doing what you love?
shame people like you exist. I NEVER watched any of the Sam's vid, Im not interested. But guy doing what he loves (not drinking and writing shit on youtube) and gets fame for who he is. WOW, shame, right?
Because of people like you world is doomed.
yeah im the same age as him, born two months apart.
it's so insane what hes doing but i definitely respect him and his decisions. i prefer staying lean, i stuck with a swimmer build since i started because i feel the best that way. i still watch him quite a bit cuz he is genuinely very knowledgeable about bodybuilding and he seems to be a good guy. also he doesn't promote steroids or anything he's just honest about what hes taking, which is pretty commendable.
@littlescarfo no respect for a glorified drug addict
bruh
@@wazard5772
An old soul 🌹
This is EXACTLY how I’ve felt! I’m glad that there are definitely tons of natural athletes that wouldn’t ever touch steroids. I’m a certified PT and I’m going to make videos soon!
by training them@@aiazic.
genetics
by natural athletes you mean guys who work out or actual ATHLETES?
taking steroids and not competing is stupid. doing bodybuilding (real one) without steroids - is even more stupid and unhealthy. lets just please learn something about what bodybuilding means (natural or not). And not call (for example) people on the video - bodybuilders. they are not. They are people who work out.
@@RMJerich0doing bodybuilding natural is unhealthy? Jesus fucking christ this is the dumbest statement I've seen in a long time
We don't need more young men to repeat the failures of Zyzz, Shawn Rhoden, Joe Lindner, Rich Piana, Cedric McMillan, George Peterson, Andreas Münzer, Ben Harnett, Dallas McCarver, Jerry Wane Ward, Bostin Loyd etc.
Good riddance
@@kutaysuleymanogluthat's not it at all buddy
@@pretendthisisacoolusername3984 yeah list goes on, it might sound cruel but all steroid abuse deaths should be shown to the public
I didn’t know Bostin Loyd died… I remember that he got a video years ago being a teenager on steroids and an amazing 1 year transformation. On the comments some people where saying he will die soon. Well they were right.
You probably look the other way when obese people get diabetes or die around the same age, yet you care about bodybuilders? Very Interesting.
I couldn't agree with this video more. As a 76 year old who still works out with weights I began my journey into bodybuilding at age 15. As many young men at that time I was inspired by the classic physiques of Steve Reeves, Reg Park, Clarence Ross, John Grimek and others of that era. I was fanatic about watching my diet, taking protein supplements, drinking only water and milk and living a heathy lifestyle. My first experience with a bodybuilder who used steroids came when in 1967 when I was at Ft. Sam Houston in 1967. I came out of basic training weighing 155 lbs but in 10 weeks working out in our company gym, which rivaled a Gold's Gym, I had the opportunity to meet and workout with a former Mr. Illinois. He was a big fellow, over 220 lbs with a barrel chest. We became training partners and after 10 weeks I had gained 30 lbs of muscle! I was bench pressing over 325 lbs and squatting over 400 lbs. He was really excited about my progress and said that I was ready to go to the next level, meaning taking Dianabol. I told him that I wasn't interested in taking drugs and that I was into bodybuilding to improve my body and to remain healthy. He told me that if I didn't take steroids that I would never be successful in bodybuilding contests. I told him that I could live with that. Over the years I have had the opportunity to meet Chris Dickerson who later won the Mr. Olympia contest and Kevin Levrone who placed 2nd several times in the Mr. Olympia contest. I have never regretted my decision not to take steroids to aid in building my physique. I built 18" arms and a 47" chest the natural way and I still work out to maintain my strength although now my main goal is not getting injured. Steroids have ruined bodybuilding, professional wrestling, football and other sports as well. When I see stories of young men dying at an early age as a result of steroid abuse it makes me sad and a bit angry because these people are living for the moment and gambling with their future.
Great comment, thank you sir. I wish you many more years of good health and strength
You made the right choice
Calling out football is a big no-no. It's fine to criticize bodybuilding and baseball but don't go there with football. That's when you look away and make believe that everyone is natural.
wheres the guy that offered you dbol now?
I haven't the slightest idea of where he is now or if he is still alive. This all happened in 1967 when we were in the Army training as combat medics.@@FrostySauce
What's worse is that nobody fools themself enough to consider a pro bodybuilder something like a friend. Sam Suleks videos are exactly like this though, his comment section is infested with victims of a parasocial relationship, pretending that the guy is basically their best buddy which only increases the potential dangers of this type of idolization, you should never obsess over anyone at all. It's not his fault, this just happens on the internet, I just wish it was more common to realize this is happening and not just falling into the trap.
lol wtf
Good take, this a huge problem in many aspects of life, synthetic meaning.
Small correction, he's not pro. He will eventually (otherwise i don't even know what these 3g of test he is injecting are valuable or not)
facts, sam sulek fans are weird as fuck they basically worship the guy
you could say the same for every form of media, movies,series, other yt channels, books and games. whats your point? we consume too much media? thats a given, there are worse things to watch imo than a massive guy talking about whatever comes to his mind and about fucking pumps. at least he has a respectable personality and behavior, not easy to say the same for most popular modern heroe figueres, the majority of which are dishonest, pretentious and narcissistic.
It's all about drugs! Drugs for depression, drugs for social events, drugs for body building. Can't live life without ingesting something first!
Talk for yourself I, certainly can.
As a user of drugs that allow me not to kill myself I'd say there is a difference here, mental illness is like any other illness, sometimes you can't deal with it "naturally"
@@britainman3459missed his point
@@wan2shuffle I did and could do with you explaining it if you'd be so kind.
@@britainman3459he wasn't talking about himself but criticizing people who do live like he described. The final sentence would come with a sarcastic tone
Amazing that the idea to take drugs with side effects and take more drugs to fight those side effects with more side effects and the problems never ends.
I know right?🤣
It's so crazy that people actually think this way...
Polypharmacy is quite common, not only in bodybuilding.
@@ShaneBoynot wrong. Most over 50 are on something to remedy symptoms of something, and are on at least one other drug to remedy the symptoms of the original drug. A lot think this is normal
@@brucejensen3081it's a uniquely American thing. I read something the other day that went something like, "the US consists of 4% of the world's population, and yet uses over 80% of the world's opiates and amphetamines."
I suspect it's a similar statistic with most drugs
Guys like Steve Reeves should be what everyone tries to look like. He looked GREAT. Ask any woman. They guys now are revolting
I can't be expected to grow a beard like that. Don't be a jerk.
@@bobjohnson1633 true
Reeves lives in a time when body building had better ideals based on health and balance... Todays era of bodybuilders is based on distorted perceptions and mass via drugs..its a joke and everyone knows it
He looked better without the beard
I think everyone should try to look like themselves, or at least the healthiest version of themselves, trying to look like someone you’re not is what makes people do things like steroids, plastic surgery and what not. Just be yourself.
he WILL regret his decisions at the very moment he gets a heartattack or aneurysm and is on deaths door.
but then it will be too late.
Yeah, or kidney failure unfortunetly, his diet is insanelly bad, which is sad because he seems like a stand-up guy.
I think the worst and humiliating is when guys have said their balls have shrunken to grapes and never grown back
On the other hand arnold was on steroids at age 18 and he is still kicking at 80 so he may get lucky also
@@richardlawson6787 Arnold isn't 80 yet!
@@richardlawson6787maybe, but this kid is literally wider than Arnold at 21, and already has really bad side effects. I don't think he's being smart about his use at all.
I stopped watching Sam once he went on accutane weirdly enough. When I was in high school I developed cycstic acne and it was horrible, so accutane was the only option. When you go on that drug you are presented with a giant fold-out pamphlet of the list of side effects. It's extremely harsh on the body, I suffered from depression, stomach cramps, and my lips peeling off the whole way through. It's extremely hard on your kidneys and if you're already on steroids I can't imagine the damage it will do.
When I saw Sam go on accutane to curb his acne I couldn't get over how casually he took it, and what he must already be putting his body through. It completely turned me off from his channel because I do not believe he will see past 30, I honestly don't know if he will even make it another 5 years. You can watch him turn red and dyspneic from just sitting in his car or talking which happened to Rich Piana towards the end of his life. I volunteer EMS and I can tell you this dude is in really really bad shape, he's showing all the signs of heart failure and it's getting worse.
The last thing is that I've been going to the gym for years, and now I'm seeing tons of kids pour in copying his training style. They know he's on roids but still copy what he does as if it still applies to them. People are quick to hate on fake natties (e.g. David Laid) but a lot of guys could achieve a close enough physique while staying lean and off drugs. Sam is whole different beast, where following his regimen as a natural lifter will not get you even close to how he looks and he's clearly abusing steroids which might push people to do the same.
Idk man, this whole situation is massively fucked up.
well said
I think 🤔 what X does versus what they did to get there is a thing that would be valuable. Of course it probably pales in comparison with other natty transformations but I gained a lot of muscle with full body workouts. To a point. Then I found I could add another set and another and did that. Too exhausting. So I switched to push pull split, for the most part. . Usually doing legs with either one. So my advice wouldn't be push pull ( legs ) for a beginner. Or doing 6 sets. Just trying to do the same thing as someone else with different weights, natty or not, is probably not the best idea. I remember being toast after 3 good sets.
Womp womp
If you really think sams gonna die that soon then you have no idea what you're talking about. Nick Walker is 30+ and no one takes more steroids than that dude.
Man Ive done acutane for a year and a half and yes my skin was dry as fuck and my bottom lip was ALWAYS bleeding but it honestly wasnt that bad. The side effects are different for everyone and most people dont get super depressed
Thank you for mentioning. Accutane gave me a rare autoimmune disease when I was 15, although I stopped using it after 2-3 weeks already. The autoimmune disease is fully healed (I‘m 29 now) but the triggered kidney insufficiency remains and I am expected to take drugs for my kidneys for the rest of my life to avoid a dialysis. It‘s so sad that having taken medications against acne for 2-3 weeks during my teenage life has given me tragedic side effects for the remainder of my life.
The Dark Souls hollow level of conditioning required in natural bodybuilding competitions is, in my opinion, the main factor holding back the sport.
That's what makes it interesting imo. otherwise guys look smooth and end up sweating out a bunch of water on stage. not a good look.
Steve reeves, reg park and other silver era classic bodybuilders looked far better and healthier then todays body builders and the classic physics were based on different ideals then today . Todays bodybuilding is a joke seen as a joke
It makes sense that natural bodybuilding, like any sport, would evolve over time. We have way more knowledge than Steve Reeves had 70 years ago. We have non-competitive natural gym rats walking around looking comparable to Steve Reeves lol. We know shredded glutes are possible and we know how to maximize our gains from head to toe. I want to see freak factor on stage, and as a natty, conditioning + a complete physique is the only way to bring that freak factor. Today's bodybuilding is way more exciting and interesting than the silver era could have ever hoped to be. Sure, the silver era guys look more ATTRACTIVE in the every day sense, but we're talking about competitive bodybuilding here. @@RavageReeves
@@RavageReevesalso arnold wasnt that low bodyfat no one in his era did and they looked so so much better
@@555donuts not really, that’s only happens if you have too much preservatives in your system. Sweating Never happened in the golden era yet they weren’t extremely ripped.
I used testosterone for 8 months, I was 17/18, I'm 20 now. This channel helped me realize that I did not need it at all and I have been off for 2 years. More size came with the side effects, Body dismorphia, acne on my back and gyno.
Looking at social media influencers using gear, I thought it was normal. This channel is the main reason I haven't gone back. I like Sam and respect all the other bodybuilders regardless of gear use, but taking 40 years off my life for an extra 30-50 pounds of muscle that won't even look good, no thanks.
Gracias, mi corazon te lo agradece, literalmente. Fisico cultismo natural es la mejor ruta a la larga.
Comments like this make my day bro, thank you for sharing your experience. When I hear people say my content discouraged them from steroids it makes me feel like I all the time I spent on the videos has more than paid off.
Best wishes to you 💪
When it comes to using gear u really gotta do ur research before hopping on u cant just take it bc u think its a normalized thing now. Do ur research and dont take any before 21 thats dumb also people respond differently to gear and iidk why anyone who doesn't take dis sport serious would even hop on, just ruining your health. Get your training and diet right + research and knowledge before even thinking abt touching the stuff.
You’re a loser
Good for you for stopping.
40 years? Crazy
We nattys are not alone!
“One of the side effects of steroid abuse is getting very big muscles, so it’s all good” cracked me up.
You deliver your points in a very balanced and well spoken manner. Great video ^^
Testosterone is a legitimate drug and there are clinics all over the country that supply men and women and others with it legally.
@@BoleDaPoleCorrect, but in a quarter of a dose bodybuilders usually take.
Drug use,mass monsters,fake-nattys and now brain-dead influencers posing in good lightning/editing gains while making millions on newbies.
Unpopular opinion: I think bodybuilding is NOT a sport.
Let's be real: it's a beauty contest. That's it. A toxic beauty contest.
Does it take effort and hard work etc? Yes it does, but at the end of the day all it is about is looking "good", even if you don't actually compete.
That's why the merit of the work is shadowed by the final results.
Do I enjoy looking at these montrosities of dudes? Yes I do. And I also know they could die at any moment.
You said it perfectly, couldn’t agree more!
Agreed
I don't get why everybody calls him a "nice, chill guy" when he makes content shaming people for being "small". He's actively contributing to body dysmorphia and perpetuating the idea that men should all want to be as huge as possible.
He's a guy in the early 20s. So his humor is relatable to much of the online community that "matters".
You can get huge naturally, there's no excuse to be weak.
I've questioned the same thing for years. Bodybuilding used to be about the "beach body" look and was not only healthier, but much more visually appealing with some mainstream attention. Then since probably Dorian (big fan but just being real) it became a freak show. It's ALL about pharmacology now. Not a coincidence that it's more niche than ever. I definitely would love to see the classic standard come back.
Right . Like back in the day, if you were strong as hell, you were what everyone wanted to be . And as a side effect of being strong , you gained muscle . That’s all everyone wanted was to be super strong. Now it’s just “ how much can I look like I can lift “
Totally agreed people really need to realise that the whole bodybuilding sport has become the foundation of unhealthy drug abuse from getting in the best shape possible and staying healty
Yeah that "Beach Body" is the best looking type of body and my goals, modern bodybuilding just looks awful, even the natural part of it. The bodybuilders themselves naturally might look well but on stage is a whole another story.
It was still all about steroids before Dorian. Frank Zane was called “the chemist” for a reason.
Niche ? Those bodybuilders are getting rich with the number of followers they have
Sulek is not an example to follow but he is the product of what influencers are at the moment. Not going to lie mate: IT IS ON US TO PUSH BACK yes with explanations but even more leading the way. There are a great number of young people abusing steroids because they think it is not worth doing differently. We must be the ones to show the way. If we don't lead they will lead. We have to be the Goggins of body building and aesthetics.
You're absolutely right. It's massive uphill battle but I think it's worth fighting.
He is literal the opposite of every influencer
Sams not like most influencers. Down to earth loves to be huge introvwrted. Hes not bro im aesthetic i get money fuck bitches bradley martyn
you 100% dont even watch sulek as he isnt like all the other influencers
You don’t even watch his content lol you’re just abrasive towards him because he’s popular and you think he’s like every other obnoxious influencer
Proud lifetime natty here who’s continued making slow & steady gains through the years. Always makes me sad when I hear people actually believe that they need to jump on gear to keep making gains after only a couple/few years of lifting. I appreciate your honest take on this topic, and while I believe everyone can do whatever they want with their bodies, taking drugs to achieve a physique faster or on a higher level in general is very short sighted and something that most people will come to regret with all the negative side effects that frequently accompany steroid/PED use. Great video and messaging! 💪
He really thought we would believe him 😭
I really enjoy Sam Sulek's videos but you are honestly correct on everything. I want to see Sam being healthy, and even if his size decreases, I would much much rather see that as opposed to him succumbing to his copious steroid usage.
Yup, a lot of us like Sam because of who he is, not the drugs, but we want him to make videos as long as possible, hopefully one day we can see him go natty
Ironically enough he’s at that border between natty attainable and outright mass monster. It would be great if he quite asap he wouldn’t lose a ton of size either.
@@justchilling704Nothing natty looking about his current physique, it's literally one of those physiques you look and see instantly it's roided, his massive back, capped shoulders and baloon chest are a dead giveaway. Iike Sam a lot, but i don't think he is looking healthy at all
@@fernandomaron87 Compare him to the professional body builders and you’ll see what I mean. He’s at about the level of muscle the Golden age guys were. He’s not a mass monster, so if he stopped he keep the overall majority of muscle tissue.
I wish more people would come out and say what you are saying. The current generation has an even more distorted perception of what is naturally possible than prior generations, because they are bombarded by the imagery put forth by "fitness influencers" on social media - many of who use PEDs.
True classic bodybuilding there isn't Arnold Schwarzenegger
Promoted health and fitness but also steroid use
I got people wanting to be bigger and bigger and bigger than Arnold
How many 18 year olds are going to look at bronze or silver era physique and say I want to look like that
Screw aesthetics, just wanna look huge, veiny and disgusting 😎👍
Screw the roids too tho, that's low
I want to make a confession here. When I started with the sport I was seriously thinking about taking roids. I did my research and learned a lot. In the end, what convinced me to not take them was the price. To get the good roids you pay a heavty price. Than you pay even more to get rid of the side effects. In the end I calculated c.a. 700€ a month just for the drugs. Together with a good gym and the cost for a better meal plan, it would have been a 1000€ every month. Long term effects aren't even in there.
I'm not trying to convince you to take steroids, but wherever you were looking you were about to get seriously ripped off.
Steroids are cheap. A testosterone cycle can cost you as little as 25€ a month. Even pretty heavy cycles can be done for under 100 easily. In many countries in Europe you can buy testosterone amps from a pharmacy for like 5€ each, in theory you need a prescription but in practice you just need to know a guy who works there.
All you have to do is look at the guy's complexion to realize that something is seriously messed up internally, and will continue to get worse if he continues down the same path. He's headed for a heart attack, an aneurysm, all kinds of deep muscle tears or straight up mental illness. He's sacrificing himself on an altar, and it's pretty sick.
As an always and ALL WAYS all-natural 54-year-old female bodybuilder bodybuilding for over 41+ years (started at 13), I completely agree with what you are saying here. Recently, I was wondering why there is not a community of those like myself who are lifelong non-competitive bodybuilders because we make up the majority of bodybuilders. Those who merely appear to be seen the most do not represent to ANY accuracy what bodybuilding really is and the spirit of it is. Thus, the solution is for more all-natural bodybuilders to engage in social media and show people what a normal, non-chemically enhanced physique looks like and how they achieve it through balanced nutrition, balanced workouts, stemming from a balanced mind that is aware that "more and more often with pharmaceuticals" is NOT the answer for a healthy long life. At 54, I am in the top 3% of health and physique and have had breast cancer. I am living proof that while it is true life happens, one can become a living example of what a true natural aesthetic and healthy physique looks and functions. Unfortunately, with over two-dozen young "enhanced" bodybuilders dying last year, these and those who are following in their footsteps will never know what it is to live to be 40 much less 50+. Thank you for making this video to open dialogue on this very serious issue. I say we form a community called "Natural Natty Life".
That's very well said, thank you for your input and support 💪
I would like to see how you look like, but not everyone wants to be exposed on social medias.
. I'm a totally beginner and a woman. There is a big lack of : 1) True natty bodies 2) Women bodybuilders 3) "Elderly" boldybuilders (= people who can exercize after 40s because they didn't mess up their bodies) 4) No photoshopped shoots...
There already is a great community of natural bodybuilders however, called the "noble natties". Rather than form a seperate community we can join the noble natties to make the noble natties even more powerful
@@ginoyesano5649 I didn't know about this community, thanks for sharing! Where can I find them? On RUclips, Facebook?
@@ginoyesano5649 Is this a fb group or a website? This is the first I have heard of such a group.
Agree with your points completely.
Best video about Sulek so far. I really like how you don't mince words, people have been too political and apologetic about this topic. Well done.
Silver Era mindset is where it's at. Physique, aesthetics, longevity, health. Steve Reeves wanted to live to 100. If he hadn't tragically died of a pulmonary embolism after surgery, I firmly believe he's still be alive. He'd be 97 today.
i've competed natural competition before, i just realized that i've competed against cheaters, i won 3rd place, so i looked back and checked all the pictures they took and i just fuckin realized this 1st and 2nd places dudes won they been using something! pissed me off how i lost, i would have won 1st place. Things are gettin weird and weirder in 2023
All juiceheads are a bad influence within the strength and fitness industry in my honest opinion. Everyone stay Natty 👍
Hope this blows up! People need to hear this message
It's starting to blow up. I had this channel randomly in my reco a few days ago, and now I'm binge watching it. I hope the algorithm will keep going with the good job.
Every lifter knows the temptation of steroids. Young people are just inconsiderate of their future selves. Bostin Loyd used to talk about how he didn't care about taking years off his life, but he definitely didn't feel that way when he was on dialysis at 28, then dead at 29.
The older you get, the more happy you'll be with your decision to stay natural. I'm not jealous of the steroid heads in my gym, I'm glad I never got on that train.
External gratification; Internal deterioration
The bodybuilding community has become so toxic most people don't believe you can achieve a good physique with a cocktail of drugs. Worried for the future generations
cuz a lot of people don't know the difference between a enhanced physique and a natural one mainly bc a lot of influencers are fake natty
@@yummiethegoat4302 Don't you dare go there with Mike O'Tren: Natty on steroids.
Training for 3 years now 5 times a week for 2 hours - been off the creatine and proteinshakes for over 6 months now and honestly nothing changed at all - just a balanced diet and hard work - bronze era forever!
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Nah, golden era is the best
@@mastin8756problem is the steroids
Why been off creatine?
Its healthy with no side effects but respect!
Oh for sure it´s very healthy and beneficial! But I just thought to myself nobody back in the days used 3-5 g Creatine a day so why should I@@mohammed_44er
Bodybuilding was about being healthy before all then being asthethic and naturally muscular while having peak natural physique nowadays bodybuilding is a freak death show
When looking healthy gets slandered and looking like you're about to cough out your liver to fill the space with lean mass gets standardized...
Honestly what the fuck
is this a home gym? leg press in a home gym is insane haha so cool
Yep, it’s a privilege indeed
Today's bodybuilding is not physically or asethically pleasing in anyway. Back then, most would love to look like the bronze and silver era guys but I doubt anyone would want to look like this new era
"Gone too soon, what an inspiration" is exactly what people say who deify Zyss. Their incel ways have blinded them to actual health and well being.
Male beauty standards are too unrealistic
Nothing beautiful about Mr Olympias. Steve Reeves Physique yes.
@@stevemann1299 Steve Reeves and Farnese Hercules are good archetypes of what to strive for. If you're naturally blessed with that V-taper structure, you could try to look like Steve Reeves. If not, Farnese Hercules is a better goal physique. Ultimately, it's impossible to look like somebody else so it's important not to get too caught up in the process.
@@anonymousman4419
Just be the best you can be. Being in shape and healthy is numero uno. The problem we have in 2024. Is people who cheated their way to their physiques. Fooling the gullible young men to think they can get that on Chicken and Broccoli. I would rather look like Marlon Brando in Street Car. Than any of these drugged frauds on yourube..
And this is why Leon Edwards has the most aesthetic physique in the universe
I've lifted for 32 years now - obviously always naturally. Long term health should be the goal for everyone and taking roids for most people is ridiculous. The top guys are massive but they are not healthy and I can't see them living healthy long lives. A real shame.
Incredible... you started lifting when I was 1yo... and sometimes I already feel old. You're more inspiring me than you could know. 😊
I can't overstate the importance of the work you're doing to call out what's happening and to break it down so clearly. I hope you keep it up, your voice is needed.
Sam Sulek has truly taken over the fitness industry, even my personal trainer mentioned him first time we met
He going to try to get you on the sauce Beware 😂 Sam the modern day Rich
As someone who comes from a severely anorexic background, I find this absolutely fascinating. I was thrown in the hospital so many times, and certified more than once when I turned 18 and refused to go. Yet, for drugged up body builders, nothing. It's obviously a mental illness, they obviously have body dysmorphia, it kills at higher rates than anorexia, over a shorter period of time, and nothing! Their families don't appear to be freaking out, viewers who'd flip right out on Eugenia Cooney are fine with this, and nobody is talking about the impact it has on boys, and men in midlife who become vulnerable as they're starting to lose strength. There's no treatment centres, as far as I know it's not in the DSM, psychiatrists aren't out in droves talking about it, and promotion of an activity that is being abused in a way that destroys bodies is not even up for debate.
The lack of response is bizarre - completely fascinating - but bizarre.
Because it's an art form. Hundreds of people visit the Olympia to see Chris Bumstead and millions share and view his videos while no one wants to see an ugly anorexic rib cage.
Yeah, well said. The medical / psychological fields and discussions seem very out of touch and often just won't acknowledge issues like this with any degree of seriousness. I wouldn't even say this is as widespread as anorexia for girls and women, but it definitely can have, and is already having a big impact on lots of guys' self esteem at all ages - and who knows, maybe it could become as widespread if left unchecked. I think it goes a lot deeper than just this stuff though, seeing lots of young guys with really bad anxiety and self esteem it is one of many issues that does not get spoken about very transparently and just generally the pressures young boys and guys in general are faced with are not taken very seriously or even talked about and that seems pretty stupid if ya ask me.
Just had a health youtuber asking me why I think his healthy lean bodybuilder with a bmi of 30. (competition Schwarzenegger) would need strong kidneys and heart.
It is in the DSM imo. It's just high level narcissism. How could you not be a narcissist when you're a pro level bodybuilder? Your entire life revolves around yourself and being as muscular as possible, for others (the judges), not even for yourself.
Where do you draw the line? Should we start sectioning people for being too jacked? The thing about freedom and personal autonomy is that people for better or worse a lot of times are allowed to make unhealthy decisions. I don't think it should be up to other people to intervene except in dire situations. And I even have conflicting views on that.
This is one of the best channels out here on fitness and bodybuilding. Keep up the good work.
Thank you bro!
I was in my late thirties when I tried a cycle. That's after 20 years of weight lifting. I used them for the next fifteen years. When I finally went heavy. That's when I had side effects. Knew eventually that it dead end. Now that I got away from them. I lift only a fraction of the weight. It is a slippy slope. And you are 100% correct.
I just did 190 kg bench press for 1 rep natty is that good ? working sets are normal on 140 kg for 10-12 reps and 160 kg for 6-7 reps
You got a nice physique man, I'm jealous of your arms. keep grinding
Thank you bro, it's a work in progress!
I'd recommend slowing down those movements though
Real bodybuildong is much more about the journey than it is about simply getting jacked. If you offered me the body of my dreams magically i would decline, because i would be cheating myself out of the personal growth that comes with natural bodybuilding, but nowadays nothing works like this anymore, everything has to be immediate and easily marketable to the outside world, you have to fit in an instagram post, what is unimportant.
Channels like this are a natural reaction to modern bodybuilding (pun intended) and they're definitely having a positive impact in the community. Keep up the great work and thanks for making the spanish channel!
Un abrazo desde Sevilla!
Gracias amigo!
It's almost as if the Silver Era bodybuilders look great every day where the Golden Era bodybuilders only looked "good" once a year
So happy for this channel. You seem like a very wholesome guy. Keep it up! This channel always inspire me on my natural Journey of health after years of drug abuse (not roids).
Thank you! May the light always guide your heart.
I take great pride in being “stock” after having been on a mission to not be a skinny whimp, since 2015. While I wouldn’t pass as a social media influencer, I never had to do drugs to get attention and compliments IRL. The trick was developing my shoulders to get a good shoulder:hip ratio. Obviously don’t shoulder max without setting up the rest of your body so it’s proportionally developed, you don’t want muscular imbalances and bad aesthetics. But that’s the secret, younger fellas. Shoulder:hip ratio will make the rest of your work stand out.
Excellent video. Your channel is a huge motivation to stay natural, and it's great to see that others feel the same way I do. Also, you're definitely making good gains, you can really see in your recent videos. Keep up the hard work, and know that your crusade isn't falling on deaf ears.
Where do you get those pullup bands? I have only been able to find the shorter, thinner ones on amazon.
I got mine on amazon too, the brand is called proiron
@@NattyLifeYT thanks
Where did you buy your dip belt?
What a marvellous message you have sent out Dante. It's great to see you and your partner and pet at the end, like a wonderful family that is enjoying health and life which the development of natural strength brings. I think I may have said this before, but I will say it again...modern bodybuilding is nothing more than chemically enhanced muscular obesity. Why "muscular obesity", because the amount of muscle obtained puts the body in an obese state. And if you understand obesity, obesity can be morbid, which means that it can cause disease. The physiques are taken to a point that is not just unattainable, but that causes disease. It is no surprise that most modern BB that push the limit die of cardiovascular or kidney issues, and if you compare the blood parameters of BB who have passed away, the results shows that they were suffering from severe metabolic disease. This modern drug trend is no longer a reflection of health and strength, but a chemical race to be the biggest, freakiest guy on stage, and an unfortunate race to the grave.
Thank you brother! You’re absolutely right. I’m so disgusted by the current state of things that I almost want to distance myself from the word bodybuilding. I might just start calling what we do physical culture instead 😁
@@NattyLifeYT well then that's what we should do. Bodybuilding has become a drug culture, whilst natural lifting is truly the cultivation of one's body and mind...physical culture. If the natural community is experiencing a new renaissance..then we are essentially experiencing the return of physical culture
My steroid buddy at the gym is large and muscular, but so is his gut. He looks like a muscular, fat guy. It's as silly as watching obese people compete in Iron Man competitions. Just because you can do it, doesn't mean you should.
@@NattyLifeYTi always call it classic bodybuilding not bodybuilding
wow thanks for summing up the video we all watched. do you think youre smart or something.
Y’all are gonna hate me for this but,
2011-2017 Men’s Physique was the most Aesthetic period in all of history. Right before they turned into Classic competitors. They looked awesome and certain people might actually be able to reach that naturally.
That’s what I’m shooting for.
Sadik, Ferguson, Buendia, they looked awesome back then before they turned into massive Fiends.
Still juicers
They looked terrible. They abused roids and chased terrible judging criteria. Incomplete bodies. Just looked stupid
Those physiques still required steroids lol
started Bodybuilding at 17 , never took any drugs, i was duped for first few years thinking i could look like Arnold or Lee Haney natural. I got prtty big as far as natural goes, 18"arms, 53"chest, 26" legs, 17 1/2 " calves, but i hit a genetic limit and when i was offered drugs in the gym after 7-8 super hard years lifting i told them hell no! I NEVER regretted that decision, Now im 50 and look 30 cause ive allways trained natural (noticed when people used steroids it unnaturally ages them)
Seeing the attitude people have towards steroids abusers makes it explicit how hypocrite they are when bullying fat people claiming it is because "being fat is bad for their health, so I'm doing them a favor by shamming". While it is technically true that being morbidly obese have multiple side effects on health, a person slightly fat can (and very often is) healthier than someone severely skinny. Also if it is unhealthy or not, and how much, is beyond the point and irrelevant, since what really matter to those people is that they do not like the looks, and they associate fatness with a "disease of the soul" (being lazy, unsuccessful, unable to take action, etc). People do not bully smokers, steroid users, people who do extreme (and dangerous) plastic surgeries (as long as the final result looks right), etc.
I think people should seek to achieve their best selves, putting health before any other goal. And maybe that fatty person you are bullying is overall healthier than you sitting in your couch and have applied more effort into their physique than you ever will, but their genetics makes it very hard to get rid of those last sacks. Also, it is none of your business.
Once a life-enhancing endeavor, now life-shortening, and for achievements that are fleeting and illusory. Stay natural, people - those around you will be forever grateful. 💪
Bronze and Silver Era would be sad to see this.
Even golden Era guys like Arnold dont really like those freak bodybuilders.
for me it would be ok if there are different classes that have high level natural bodybuilders in it. But even the natural classes nowadays often look roided.
and the overall flexibility and muscle control is totally lost in bodybuilding nowadays.
but to be honest.. lots of testosterone abuse comes from low test levels in general.
nowadays test levels are way lower then in the past. Its our food, water, air.. lifestyle, clothing etc. (-30 to -50% lower test levels nowadays!)
So many feel already weak and chose roids. Just to be a bit more masculine and stronger.
And im sure many then get addicted to the "power" it gives u.
and gaining natural testosterone is hard.. no fap is hard.. clean eating can be hard.. and all those things like maca, ashwaganda etc. just help a little and is hardly noticeable.
You bring up some good points and I’m not sure on the solution. I think the environmental factors need to be better labeled, like what clothes specifically have hormone-similar compounds. We have done this with BPA bottles and now most bottles are BPA free, by merely shining a light on it people can better make choices that will have a positive effect on their hormones. Lifestyle factors are still being studied, things like no fap don’t seem to effect testosterone but I’m sure there are a litany of other lifestyle factors that are important. Lastly there’s diet, and the war on fat is terrible for hormones but fortunately that has been shown to be misguided however with the large variety of foods it can be hard to tell what exactly could be effecting hormones so negatively, soy for example has been demonized but now studies have shown that the hormones might have a negligible effect and with dairy, etc. who knows.
Wait - you think Arnold was natural?!
"Even golden Era guys like Arnold dont really like those freak bodybuilders" implys that even guys who did roids often dislike freakish mass monsters.@@spindriftdrinker
@@elQuestionare You could very well be correct about that - but here is the point. Think of an early steroid user ( like Arnold ?) who might be envious of guys at a later date benefiting from more powerful drugs and knowledge who are bigger.
That kind of envious dislike is a very different thing from the dislike shown by Mr. Natty Life who is against all steroids.
Sandow would be disgusted if he saw what bodybuilding has turned into. It's a disrespect to have him on the trophy at this point.
Hi, do you have any vids about the training methods Silver Era used?
having a home gym and working out with your girlfriend is so cute. happy for you, big dawg
You got yourself a subscriber. Well put and close to how i feel about these horrible modern trends in the fitness/socialmedia areas. It's crazy how many people are so clueless and get sucked in by these influencers.
Wholeheartedly agree. Bodybuilding more than anything to me was once an art and representation of the ultimate physical aspect. It embraced beauty and function. It saddens me greatly to see so many traceable bodies now claiming that it is still "Bodybuilding" it is no longer the carving of rock into a masterpiece, but an assembly line of slapped on clay.
Those chinups and dips that you were doing , with all those extra weights was impressive! You're a beast!
I feel like sulek is less of an example you want to follow and more of an inspiration and motivation, I agree normalization of steroids is bad, but watching his videos and just listening is such a huge motivation to go lift and better myself. I refuse to use steroids, but I still look up to Sulek due to his pure dedication, and it’s hard to not be inspired to go lift when you see someone pushing themselves that hard.
I'm not sure if a very young audience can differentiate between these two things.
There are a good number of natties on social media, with every bit as much dedication as juice boy. So your reason for supporting a guy who perpetuates steroid use in young men is crap, and you're doing a bad thing.
@@jackdeemus2799 That's their and their parent's problem.
@@jackdeemus2799so condescending
He's not bettering himself though. He's getting larger muscles and becoming drastically less healthy.
Im glad I walked away from bodybuilding and found life in JESUS CHRIST.
I like Sam Sulek’s personality a lot, and his training musings are applicable to natty guys.
But every time I think about how much I like him, I always add “better enjoy him while he’s still alive”.
Arnold Schwarzenegger, Kai Greene, Ronnie Coleman, Jay Cutler, Phil Heath, Dorian Yates. These are a few examples of bodybuilders who did copious amounts of steroids through many years, most of them in a reckless manner and they are still here, alive breathing. It's not like what Sam Sulek does is something new. In fact I bet he does it in a more safe manner since there is more information about ''safe'' steroids usage than ever. Not saying it is healthy, but to act like no one has done this before is just stupid.
@@edmundvalero6841agreed. people here talk like we live in a cave and know nothing. meanwhile pro bb is around for many years and athletes go insane and then just hop off gear (eg Kevin Levrone) and just keep on living healthily with millions of dollars and feeling of contentment about their life.
@@edmundvalero6841 hey man I hope you’re right, but I still got the feeling I had when Zyzz was around.
@@edmundvalero6841 Really hope Sam just comes out one day about his use and what does to be safe. Think it would ease everyone's worries if we know how much he's taking and if he's being safe. Dude is so chill and I like his vids. Just don't want the dude to go out young.
Crazy thing also, We already saw the bad crazy side effects whatever he took cause his skin looks bad. He got the acne under control but it was so bad months ago.
There is a new era of lifting coming soon, more and more TRUE admirers of the physical culture are coming together and recognizing the short comings that we as a society have accepted, it’s time for change
Awesome video
As Vince Gironda said " what ever happened to Physical Culture"?
I am a proud owner of 16 inches biceps naturally 😂 honest Work. Not much but honest work
16 inches really good for natural especially at low bf%
Dude, your content is golden. The bronze and silver era were the peak of the sport, there's nothing like a natural body.
it feels so good being bigger than all the tiktok tren challenge kids as a natty
I was into bodybuilding in my early 20ies, around 2013-2015. Nothing has changed since then. Just the faces of the drug abusers. Disgusting mass monsters who shame others on "not doing enough", "not giving their whole heart to the sport" etc. They're never talking about health, they're just talking about eating "more, more, more, more, more" (quote from Rich Piana). Bigorexia is a thing.
Thanks I shared this to my fitness community and notified everyone!
I appreciate the support bro, many thanks!
I hate how now, obtainable physics are looked are as small or not good because the standard is these juiced up mass monster physiques
Excellent analysis NL. Sulek has been on my mind for a while and I didn’t want to hate on him bc I felt like there’s was something more at bay rather than ripping on the guy for steroids and you explained it all well.
We gotta get you some silver age body building posters for your gym room !
I love this channel so much. Not only the insights from the health and past bodybuilding era, but for the present too, that is possible to achieve the best form of yourself in a world full of people trying to sell the unreachable. While I like Sam Sulek workouts and the man itself, I pretty much agree with you. Bad influence for the youngsters, but I cant blame him either, this system is fucked up...
Many thanks bro, much appreciated 💪
Same thing that happened to rap, r&b and human social interractions...the corporations purchased it and monetized it to no ones benefit but theirs
Sorry dude, but the silver era was not steroid free either.
Do you know the concepts of standards and exceptions? You are the type of person to hear a 0.000007% chance of something happening and you go "but it can happen though"
@@captain_ares You seem very unknowledgeable on the subject and what actual athletes from that era said. Yet you took the time to write out that response… curious. I wonder what kind of person that makes you…
They definitely did ues steroids, it more thou that they ues to be uesd to just enchanting there natural good physical gens. Where as now it seems like there uesing good natural physical gens to enhancing there steroids uesing lol.
@@jaylee9552 I couldn’t agree more. The sport is mostly about drugs now.
Yeah the fact that he's 21 is pretty horrifying. It's literally just body dysmorphia,
He looks great.
@@jellyfishbrainedhe looks awful.
@@jellyfishbrainedhe looks like roids.
It’s crazy. If you go look at the last days of his bulk series… he does a physique check. He has a defined bulging six pack with chest and shoulder striations.
And that is after a several month long bulk. A lot of which was dirty shit calories like whole boxes of cereal, gallons of milk, etc.
It just shows how fucked the hormones are. Burning off everything that goes into the body.
God, this is such a breath of fresh air. I can only watch so many Greg Doucette or More Plates More Dates videos before I feel utterly disgusted about the state of the sport.
Definitely get on board with Alex Leonidas, GVS, Natural Hypertrophy, Basement Bodybuilding, Abel SD, Alan Thrall… Renaissance Periodization is probably the only steroid-friendly Chanel that gets a pass from me, just because Mike’s knowledge of training immense and he’s hysterically funny
I'm also shell-shocked every time I listen to Greg talk about bodybuilders. Is it about lifting or injecting?
What sport?
Please keep making videos like this on your main channel. This is such an important message and it breaks my heart to see all these young guys in parasocial relationships with steroid users. 150k views on a video like this is basically unheard of, so please keep it up.
Well spoken, I've considered steroids in the past but always held off due to the health concerns, your videos convinced me once and for all just how stupid it would have been.
And as to what has happened to the sport etc, you can see this sort of extremism in all layers of society since the event of social media - it doesn't really matter what we are discussing, things have been getting way more fanatical and polarized for the past 20 years to the point where I'm convinced all forms of social media is a social and psychological mindrot that needs to be curtailed before it's too late.
the problem is, not only are body builders - in general - likeable people, their discipline and perseverance are admirable. it's really messed up.
Great video, you held nothing back, it needed to be said & needs to be said more. The mass monsters & top level naturals are both the furthest from health. The greats of the past would vomit if they could see what it's all come to
This is definitely a very good video and point you are making and I think it touches an even bigger problem as well. That problem being no one wants to grind and go through the boring and hard parts, just like how you said a natural body builder reaches their “limit” but hasn’t actually done proper dieting and the proper sleep, water intake etc.Same thing with success so many people wanna be rich and social media just pushes this narrative that “do this and you’ll be rich quick” in reality it takes hard work, sacrifice, aka things that are boring and that are going to suck. Sorry for the rant
Grotesque is the right word. Neither healthy nor good looking, so what even was the point? What started this mindset?
I fully agree with your message in this video. I also want to add that the real issue here is outcome focus, instead of process focus. The real beauty of training is the mental transformation that comes with the physical transformation. The knowledge that you, yourself did this with no outside assistance is incredibly empowering. Focus on the process and reap the benefits.