Incredible Swiss Folding Gun: The B&T BWC
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2022
- In this episode of TFBTV, James Reeves visits B&T in Switzerland to see their take on the folding carbine, the B&T BWC ("Because We Can"). The BWC is a 9mm folding SMG/PCC that uses a Sig P320 fire control unit or "FCU" meaning that the BWC itself is not a firearm, but a frame or chassis. This means that this folding pistol chassis is unregulated - a mere accessory. A Sig P320 owner can buy this chassis like any other unregulated accessory because it does not come as a complete firearm. Once you purchase it, you need only insert a Sig P320 FCU and slide/barrel upper, and you have a complete folding carbine.
Per Nick Chen of The Firearm Blog:
"The BWC-9 from B&T somewhat resembles the Magpul FMG-9. It looks like it has a carry handle fixed to the top rail and they have an Aimpoint Acro mounted underneath. Just below the top rail, you can see a slot that looks like it is for the charging handle. [T]he operation is similar to the Magpul FMG design. The B&T BWC-9. A limited run, coming later this year. Uses a SIG P320 trigger group and carry slide. When deployed, the stock portion is raked at an angle rather than being parallel with the chassis. This is to allow the shooter to get a lower cheek weld and aim through the Acro."
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I’m sweating 🥵
Therrre he is.
“Oh man now I need to buy a 320 FC.. WAIT A MINUTE!!!l
Hahahahaha THE ULTIMATE COLLAB
My dude, you could probably make something similar. Wanna give it a shot?
@@WvlfDarkfire there's a .22 version called the Bento Box available.
The sheer confidence of calling the gun "Because We Can" is hilariously amazing.
Grasshopper mouse still on top of my list, but this come close
I thought “BWC” meant something else. Maybe Lisa Ann would know.
They should have went with BWK, Bekauswekan.
@@jamescampbell9992 Body Worn Camera?
Switzerland is a neutral country......right? So, they make firearms because.......
For the Kel Tec man with an HK bank account
I'd rather have a Keltec it comes in a .40
🤣
I love my MK23, SL8/G36, USP, soon to have a UMP
I just stick to my benelli m4🙂
@@andrewhartl7377MK23❤❤
Omg, just to be in Switzerland and at the B&T factory with all of their amazingly unique and awesome firearms..... That's a trip of a lifetime in and of itself.
not the first time i’ve been excited to get a BWC in my hands
They got It looking almost like an 80’s stereo. Had they finished decorating the outside of it, they could have called it the “Boombox.” It would have the perfect disguise.
Go watch the Forgotten Weapons video on the original version of the fmg9! They suggested disguising it as a boombox and included an antenna. Then boom boxes went away so they suggested "purse." Now, it could be a Bluetooth boombox!
Ghetto blaster
Just call it a powerbank and add a 900mah battery for usb charging.
Oh, you mean like the one from RoboCop 2? Hob's DEB M21?
Nothing to see here, just walking the dog with my weird lunch box that has a reflex sight on top and an obvious ejection port…
I love this thing! I''d buy one in a heartbeat. Maybe B&T can make one for the P365 that folds down into a man purse lol
That's an amazing idea brother.
Thank you for bringing this to your viewers... and you're sooo right! we all want it!!
“I don’t think anyone will buy it”
This man is literally insane. Make the kit less expensive than other B&T products and it will be your best seller.
Are you in at $1400? It's cool but I'm just not sure it's practical to carry a gun around in a country where your odds of needing it are 1 in a million. Holsterable firearm makes more sense. Maybe a sling? I don't know
"Less expensive than other B&T products"
_Laughs in bougie Swiss products_
@@mikemcdermott7760 I would probably buy this for $1,400. Also, it's cute that you think anyone would be buying this for any real use
@@mikemcdermott7760 For concealment situations where you are forced to carry in your car, backpack, bag, etc, this would absolutely be practical. Obviously not an EDC, but a compact carbine is far from a simple range toy.
@@mikemcdermott7760 The gun is called Because we can.. Things dont always have to be practical
Does he seriously think he wouldn't be able to sell thousands of these. I'd buy one
Then some Hollywood person sees it and puts it in a movie
@@changer_of_ways_999 The Hollywood producers who would donate to a California politician to have it banned.
Agreed!
I’d be buying one for sure.
I'll take 3 please, ( 1 is none. 2 is one, three is just better)
I remember a trend a few years ago for small compact "bag" guns. Something like this would be a great addition to that style of kit. I always loved the Magpul fmg-9.
This thing is awesome even if not quickly deployable. I love how the man himself is so humble.
I've been dreaming for years about James posting a video of him playing with a BWC
What a time to be alive! I never even thought a BWC-centric video would hit RUclips, period.
Had to scroll down surprisingly far to find this one...
🤨📸
@@MrCantStopTheRobot that's exactly how I landed here as well. Haha
"Don't come into my apartment uninvited unless you think you can handle getting rapidly penetrated by my BWC"
That’s the most amazing thing I’ve ever seen!!!!
Not the gun, a Swiss guy with a sense of humor.
Ask Carl what's going on with their b&t USW-G chassis shipments. I ordered one back in June and still nothing! No updates, no nothing! Ridiculous!!
No wonder I can't get my b&t usw-g chassis after months, they've been focused on other things.
I’ll prepay for a BWC, just say the word. My SBR host for my B&T USW is actually a G45 and it’s fantastic! B&T has great concepts which are engineered into brilliant working firearms and firearm accessories. Well done!
I would also preorder one.
Same +1
I would too. My concern is them making a small number of them and not being able to find one at a reasonable price.
I'll prepay as well. B&T is a reputable company.
Why is this relevant? What new feature does thing add ? Why isn't shooting your pistol enough?
My man, please be joking when you say you don't think anyone would buy it. We've been jonesing for an FMG-9 since the first Modern Warfare 2. We've already come full circle to the second with no FMG in sight. Save us.
My man, that would be Mw3
Been waiting since robocop 2 😆
heard magpul is gonna make 2 versions of it
@@Freedm762 they showed us 2 years ago and still havent dropped. Fuck em
Love how humble he is. We can learn alot from him.
Great video James! I would definitely pick up a couple. 👍🏼
Man what a rough life James has..in Italy earlier in the summer now in Switzerland..all so he can talk about and shoot guns. Regarding this video James is right..this thing would be hugely popular.
It's nice but not as easy to maintain a diet/exercise regime or a marriage, for that matter. Glad Lindsay's cool about it.
@@tfbtv Yeah I understand. My question is about your job though….How do you have a regular job as an attorney if you are traveling so much for TFBTV?
@@JM-fb4kz partner at a law firm
@@tfbtv ok sorry to keep peppering you with questions but how do you schedule around courts dates etc? My (limited) experience when I’ve had to testify for my company is that judges aren’t very flexible.
@@tfbtv James, you’re the fucking best. I’m self employed and put 80 hours a week into my business. It requires a lot of sacrifice. It might just look like you’re having a blast but I’m sure it’s real work and people have no clue how hard being self employed is. You’re my # RUclips channel for firearms. I know based on your content that it’s a grind at times and I truly appreciate the effort. Plus having a day job which I did not know about until reading the comments.
This is the closest to a laptop gun we'll ever get. RIP Perfect Dark This is definitely James Bond level fun gadgetry
I'm sorry, but nothing will ever beat a deployable turret that folds out of a futuristic metallic briefcase over anything from the James Bond universe.
Can imagine using a P365 fcu and mags could make this assembly much thinner overall. Getting closer to laptop size.
they actually restart the franchise in a new third person open world design. should come out next year i think.
Perfect Dark Laptop Gun: Probably inspired by the Department of State / CIA briefcase guns from original Ghost in the Shell.
The one in Perfect Dark Zero was so strong it was banned from competitive games lol
I bought a ghm9 a couple years back and absolutely love it, high quality stuff. I just seen this video last night and had to pre order one since this is one of the devices dreams are made of.
I had one back in the 60's called the 007 Radio. Looked like a transistor radio with a scope for handle. It unfolded to a carbine. It came out about the same time as the Johnny Seven - 7 guns in one. Had that too.
I remember standing at the Magpul booth in awe at that Shot Show. They let me spring it open a few times! It was either 2008 or 2009.
The fact it never came to be, stinks of agency intervention.
@@warrenharrison9490 if I recall, Magpul had no plans to actually produce it. They were just showcasing their capabilities. I believe that year they also had the Masada. At any rate it's suppose to be coming out soon.
Vaporware, unfortunately. I've been waiting patiently for the ZEV, watching for the reports... then nothing in the last year.
@@pjm204 wanted that Masada badly.
@@anthonyledington3143 you can get one! The Remington ACR!
B&T is the firearms manufacturer that the 21st Century firearms enthusiasts needed.
From creating the SMG that won the US Army contract, to naming one of their firearms the scorpion eater, to designing the beautiful masterpiece that is the SPC9 and now the BWC!
B&T: “Because We Can!
Glock: Because We Don’t Want To!
H&K: Because We Don’t Care!
😂😂😂😂😂
The Scorpion is better than the GHM9, and the ACP9 is a straight blowback SMG. They're selling cheap mechanisms in expensive guns.
@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz the ghm9 is definitely better then the scorpion the fit and finish is immaculate... I understand it's not in everyone's budget but if you Have the money the ghm9 is definitely better... all there guns are definitely worth there price (I personally own a couple b&t guns amongst other brands and b&t is definitely my favorite to shoot!
@@josiahhorlings3295 Fit and finish means nothing when both guns are just as reliable, accurate, and functional as each other. It just means one is more expensive and heavier. And at least the Scorpion is guaranteed to still have parts availability in a decade, while B&T is content with devoting multiple half million dollar milling machines to making a dozen arbitrarily different 9mm sub guns with no parts commonality for no reason other than to waste money producing them. I'd bet this dumb knockoff of a 30 year old gimmick is going to cost $1500 a pop to consumers and cost millions for B&T, and it's gonna be sitting in the same pile of wasted money as the tooling for their $2000 knockoff of the $200 Tec 9.
@@josiahhorlings3295 I'm sorry GHM9 and APC9 are garbage. I own a GHM9, about 200 rounds of standard 9mm through the barrel the extractor went missing. After some research I found that its a common issue in many ghm9 and apc9... I mean come on I'm paying a premium price for a premium product not some piece of garbage with Swiss made in its name...
The CZ Scorpion works fine, and I think I’d still be using it if not for being banned in May 2020. The APC9 is head and shoulders above the Scorpion, but you get diminishing returns the higher you go. Is it too much gun for most people? Yes. Do I regret buying it? Not a chance. It’s my new main squeeze.
great man thanks for visiting my brothers in Switzerland, We still build the best in my humble opinion and yes its because we can . tooooooooooo thumbs up
I am a B&T fan boy. I have been customizing my APC9 Pro G. It is a flashlight and B&T silencer away from being done. I like the review of this new folder option. My only critique is wanting it to be able to have a silencer. That is worth the double stamp.
Finally, I can start my cyberpunk blade runner phase without breaking character at the range.
At about 6:45 when you see the grip fold - there's why the mag cannot be seated upon opening - it cannot make that angle going up and into the receiver.
I was hyped for a second there. So many chassis kits out there.
Thanks for the awesome review. I plan on stocking these!
Mr. Bruger drawing the diagram on the back of the menu felt so badass. Extremely based B&T. They looked like great fellows and really gave a good character to a company I know little about.
That's how you can tell he's enthusiastic and not just an industrial head
One of the more interesting guns I've seen recently. Thanks you James as always for the amazing videos.
It’s not a gun! It’s a statement. It’s a middle finger to other manufacturers who can’t innovate. B&T wants them to know they can! 😜
I want one of these so much, this is genuinely one of my dream guns to own.
Yes! There is absolutely a demand. I demand (politely of course) one as soon as they're available... Add to cart!
Fascinating that B&T have given Magpul the middle finger and come out with the BWC! Well done!
What amazes me that B&T is not utilizing that dead space inside the muzzle area. You would be able to design and fit a whole suppressor unit inside that area while keeping it flush.
that or use an 7"-8" barrel for better accuracy
@@UncleRedd87 barrel length has virtually 0 direct affect on accuracy.
@@killervztwogaming5796 but it does increase velocity.
@@thomaspike1475 Agree, it does increase velocity substantially. Now that I actually think about it, you might have gotten a great idea, it is even possible to put a longer barrel in with ventilated holes that acts like an integrally suppressed gun that brings down the velocity to make it subsonic without the need of Sub sonic ammo.
@@thomaspike1475 and?
His statement was about accuracy...
Very interesting! Thanks for sharing. 👍
Damn, James! You didn't have to go that hard in the intro, but I'm happy as f*** that you did 🤙
Having seen Robocop 2 at a drive-in I have been wanting something like this since 1990.
Yes Kane’s kid Cartel king dumped several mag outta that beautiful.
I'd buy that for a dollar!!
I really want the auto9
I'm constantly on the lookout for the best defensive gun to use in our truck camper. It needs to be small/compact enough to sit out overnight on limited countertop space. This looks ideal. I'd want it to work with the 10mm, P320.
Holy shit I didn’t even think about 10mm, that would be incredible
Holy shit I didn’t even think about 10mm, that would be incredible
.357 Sig might be more realistic because you don't have to redesign the grip to make it fit. Although it's not the 10mm, the .357 Sig cartridge isn't anything to laugh at.
How about a handgun? People are always making 'reasons' to buy something new 😂
@@alanrogs3990 there are very few people on Earth who can punch five rounds through the same hole at ten yards with a handgun. Subguns and PDWs exist for good reason, and this is one that takes up incredibly little space for being so effective when deployed.
I just absolutely cannot wait.
That. Was. Cool - especially the P320 solution ! Interesting
All my briefcases have optics on them so this is perfect.
If B&T can get around having to seat the magazine upon deployment, as well as having the BWC be able to use the new Sig 30 rounders, this would basically be the "we have an FMG-9 at home" meme but in reverse
That is the coolest kit I have ever seen. That would be perfect for s personal security detail.
I love watching Karl getting interviewed. He has a great company that makes high quality and superbly designed products. Yet, he’s so humble and always gives full credit to his team.
I'd buy two! And I know B&T collectors would be all over this BWC!
$1400+$690 for the sig+$200 tax stamp=$2290 sorry no thanks but it’s a great product
@@tom3699 yeah anything B&T is gonna be in that price range, but totally worth it
As a sig armourer, having to seat the magazine after you open it makes sense. I think it is a good PCC idea for say a backpack gun. It is going to be x2 to x3 the price of a Flux raider which is a con for sure. The discretion on the other hand is awesome in my opinion. If I had the money when it hits market I'm getting one.
I agree. It’s pretty unique for a unique use case, so having that extra safety step of slapping the mag doesn’t bother me. This isn’t a gun you leave ready to roll by your bed. It stays in your backpack or under the seat of your truck.
It’s kinda similar to the folding glocks
Why wouldn't just a regular handgun be good as a backpack gun?
@@alanrogs3990 I've done that before, and carrying a full sized hand gun to back up a carry, or even replace, is a great option. But I'd say that the brace or stock is what can really help out for accuracy. That being said, training is what makes accuracy, so idk, it's cool.
It could have easily been designed not to have to seat the magazine.
I want one so bad! B&T NEEDS to produce these asap!!!
How cool you got to talk to THE MAN himself. As always, great segment. Filling out the Form 1 now....
I thought the folding radio gun concept went out the 80s? Glad to see somebody’s trying to bring it back
The first thing I thought before clicking on the video was I hope they use the sig fire control unit or something similar so if I could afford one I wouldn't have to wait 6 months for the chassis And B&T as usual was already thinking about that. Man I love B&T
Been waiting for someone to go into production on a system like this..! Totally want at least two just for me..!
This was great! As an entrepreneur, it always feels awesome when a project takes off like this.
Great video it’s amazing how James gets to interview these huge figures in the industry. If these get released they will definitely be worth the money since it’s all aluminum not polymer plus the Acro would be the best combo the price is high but would definitely be an investment piece later down the road. Also would it be able to seat the mag if they chose another mag design like the Glock or the Beretta APX line if they keep FCU idea? 🤔
Absolute consummate professional both you and the man himself Mr. Brugger. Pleasure working with you both phenomenal product and an incredible way to showcase it James. Be safe gentlemen.
My hitter Cee Blau in this bitch
@@tfbtv already miss you gentlemen. Can’t say thank you enough for making the trip even more special and memorable 👊🏼👊🏼
@@Chrisblau samesies
I didn't know I needed this so bad! Make it please!
I gotta say, I love watching James Reeves play with a nice BWC.
I don't have a 320 but if this comes up for sale I'd buy both and go form 1.
iv always loved robocop 2 and after seeing this i really need it!
Enjoying this offering with my big white clock thinking it’s about time we see something like this out of Switzerland!
Great video.
I would LOVE to get one of these. I hope that while you're with B&T in Switzerland, they'll give us an update on the SPC-223. It would be very sweet if they released those in the US too.
Incredibly interesting. The previous versions of this idea were just phantoms one would notice in movies. Most people wouldn’t realize how nifty this design is. The last movie I saw this in was the Ghost Rider sequel and I think it was the magpul version. Can’t wait to see what the future holds for this product.
They finally made it!! The tactical lunchbox of my dreams is here!
yes please! Love me some B&T
FMG-9's successor 👏👏👏
The tap to seat the mag, function wish... Nah.
Yeah, I'm down for two of those kits right now! They need to have a contest to see who can decorate one of the BWCs to look most inconspicuous.
Easy... a bluetooth speaker! ;)
Thanks
I love seeing innovation like this. I have no use for this whatsoever, but it’s cool as hell.
Id love to see a version of this that includes everything you need to simply add a Sig serialized Fire Control Unit to in order to create a working semi-auto folding PDW that doesn’t need a form 4473 or NICS check. A modern day Boom Box...
Thats pretty much what it is already. Take your p320 needed bits and drop it into the chassis and your done. The only 4473 you 'need' to fill out is for the fcg of the sig. Mind you even that can be legally gotten around by buying second hand.
@@high633 or building your own 80 perc P320 fcu...oh wait😐
You'd need to mail $200 and your fingerprints directly to the ATF for a federal background check and wait a year and a half to get approved to own this, and that's if you don't have to get extra approval from your local police chief or state to begin with.
@@hornmonk3zit Yeah, it's cool but I'm not going to get one if it must be SBR'd.
I just cant see treating a pistol cartridge firing weapon as a Short Barreled RIFLE just because you can shoulder it - sort of.
I still think the drop-in 320 FCU is a slick concept though.
@@hornmonk3zit lool, still mailing in checks to the ATF huh? I don't think I've talked to anyone who did e-file on a form 1 that took more than maybe 2 months.
I honestly can’t think of a better manufacturer to bring this to market! I’d buy one this second, especially at that price target. Great job!
In a heartbeat I would buy this!
I actually love the fact that you have to slap the magazine in. It seems so satisfying everytime.
I'd buy one just to try it out. Great for somewhat unassuming concealment even though I think I like the flux better for functionality.
Dude writing on the menu and showing he's an engineer and not just a salesman is awesome, makes me like B&T even more.
I'm a Personal protection officer, I'd buy this. My instructor from the police academy carries a folding smg currently, he'd love something even smaller to carry around. Plenty of close protection leos and even regular civilians here in Texas would want them. Hope they go into production. Seems awesome
Mr Bruger and his team produce top notch Swiss quality tools!
haha, I appreciate his honesty.
"It's useless. The picatinny rail is useless, you can't put anything on it"
Doesn’t interest me, but I applaud the continued development of any firearm platform.
I could see this being a great item to build a truck gun for the states where permitted. Just because when folded, it could fit in your door, not be obvious looking, and compact enough it won't take up much more space than a pistol being stored in your vehicle. Unlike a lot of truck/vehicle rifles. It's the perfect in between for in vehicle security
I'd LOVE one of these!!!!
Magpul and ZEV Technologies really took their sweet time getting their gun to market, this’ll sure light that fire under their ass. The fact you have to form 1 this in to an SBR while I can get a cheap Gen 3 Glock clone dagger, throw it in a fully kitted 20/20 brace and it’s still a pistol. I can pretty easily take the Glock back out while still having just a pistol. If they found a way to have a braced version it would sell waaaaay more. Firearm laws in the USA are beyond retarded, if the NFA finally gets abolished like it should maybe we could see people easily buying this without having to pay another $200 for a tax stamp and going through the legal loopholes.
My compromise would be if they just reopened the registry for everything, it would simplify a lot of the stupidity.
There should never have been a registry to begin with.
@@MandoWookie no compromise, no infringements, all gun laws are tyranny
War with civvies thru redtape/logistics. If anyone can out-gun the ruling party for cheap... Ho hum...
I agree on the 20/20 brace, but I don’t really think magpul and zev can top the modularity of the P320 fcu at this point unless maybe it’s a zev fcu
James hinting them to bring it to the US market like we all don't know he has a form 1 320 fcg already 😂
This thing reminds me of a toy I had when I was a kid in the early 1970s when James Bond and other spy films were popular. It was a toy gun that folded up to look like a transistor radio of the time. The only difference is the barrel would retract into the radio when closed and pop out once you unfolded the gun.
One of my playmates had one of them. It was pretty cool. He also had the Man from Uncle guns.
Watching you open and fire it I really want it
A great video. This seems like the firearm from the Total Recall. Can they mount a 20mm Oerlikon into that foldable chassis?
I don't think the BWC stands for Because We Can James, I believe they fooled you...They named it in your honor, they saw those shorts and they knew exactly what to name it ;)
AYYYOOOO
@John Smith How is that cringe? It's called respecting and appreciating. Perhaps you don't have a good enough junk for others to appreciate but James does.
His name is John Smith, yours is Hunter Fabio. Enough said.
Yup, you beat me to it. James knows it’s BWC and I accidentally clicked on the wrong channel!
Yes please! Build it!
I want one. I will work overtime to buy one. The name rocks!!!!
BWC looks better than the FMG with the SIG fire control Group & the pic rail under the handle. Then again it not being ready to fire upon deployment but needing the magazine to be seated isn't as good as the FMG-9.
Any word Non-NFA Maxim 9?
Been dying for that since I seen it on your channel.
Pretty good. Would be nice if it had some sort of light somehow.
You can put the optic on a riser and a light under the carry handle. Boom, problem solved.
On the 12:00 rail you could have an offset mount for a light. Obviously would be exposed but still a light
@@MrRex514 It looks like the handle might sit there, I think. It would be interesting to get some hands on experience.
@@tristanhodgden4286 This looks like a solid option. One would hope they'd install a removable rail on the 3 or 6.
Looking forward to the BWC-FJB!
So happy I form 1ed a 320 years ago. Seems like there is a new, cool chassis every year.
i don't like the more sloped "stock" i kinda preferred the fmg-9's straight blocky look when unfolded
I also prefer the box look but the raked design helps with a super low optic mount. It's better.
I was gonna mention how the sloped stock low sights. The fmg9 had a straight stock but higher sights due to the flashlight they added above the barrel
I thought the same thing at first but then saw the advantage of the angle when James shoulder fired it
It’s a cool concept; it definitely has the fidget factor; but are we all really that bad at just shooting a handgun as is? If I’m not getting more energy down range, you can keep the control-ability in exchange for the weight savings/conceal-ability. Is it still awesome? Absolutely.
That said, I prefer the looks of the magpul design.
There’s a lot of collectors and they would love to get their hands on the firearm. And the public as well
That is freakin awesome!