My brand new shield 9mm has an 11 pound on average trigger. I think I got a Massachusetts gun. They have a 10 pound min law there. I will be changing it out with the apex asap.
+Marvin Pitney I had the same experience as well. My shield trigger was pulling at 9 pounds. I dropped in the apex trigger kit and it made it a whole new gun. The apex trigger is worth every penny if you ask me. Thanks for watching and be safe.
g54023 yeah I have the apex duty trigger kit installed in my shield and it's an awesome edc gun. I absolutely love it. It's like shooting a new gun. I'm going to get the flat faced trigger kit for my full size m&p next as that is a range/night stand gun.
g54023 I went to Amazon to order my new Apex trigger and there are two different prices, one is about $170 and the other around $80 what one did you get?
+Marvin Pitney I bought this particular one in the vid from MidwayUSA for $130.00 for the kit with the polymer trigger shoe for the M&P only, you have to buy a kit specific to the Shield for around $150.00. The only one that I found on Amazon was the Duty kit for $180.00. That's a little over priced if you ask me. You can get it directly from Apex tactical for $170.00 as of 5/1/2016. I'd suggest Midway or Brownells, they have great prices. I'd also recommend the the kit that includes the Apex trigger shoe, It makes a HUGE difference. I hope this helps, and let me know if you have any other questions. Take care.
great vid disagree on the disconnect. In a struggle if you can disengage the mag they won't be able to get you with your own weapon. And some say that's impossible I can indeed tell you it is not. any help as far as safety is a good thing whether you like it or not don't buy it or use it. But is is far from ridiculous. My first LEO job our issued Smith's had disconnects and some have said it saved their life.
Understood, it's all just a matter of opinion. I just don't prefer mag disconnects because it can work against you too. If your mag happens to come out, and you are able to reengage that 1 round could save your life, so it could go either way. This is also not a combat handgun, it's a training tool/range plinker. For myself, as an instructor, I've personally seen it confuse new shooters, even after I've explained it to them. I totally respect your opinion for the reasons you stated, but I myself am not a fan of magazine disconnects. If you don't mind them, that's cool. Thanks for the kind words, the interesting comment, and sharing your prospective. Stay safe, and take care.
It doesn't feel like 4.5 pounds because it isn't. 4.5 pounds would be 4 lbs, 8 oz. You're tester is measuring about 4 lbs, 3oz. Thanks for the info though, great job!
Just shot my new M&P .40c........the trigger sucks! How long and involved was the switch out? And I am assuming the Apex is around 130.00? Would be $$$ well spent I'm sure-
Yeah, I'm not a fan of the M&P trigger either. The price really depends on what kit you buy, but the one I put in the gun in the video was around $130.00 back in 2014. Apex has a great video of how to install the trigger kit here on youtube. It might even be in the sidebar on this video. Time it takes to install will depend on your skill level, and the tools you have available. It usually takes me about 20 to 30 minutes to polish and swap everything out, but I've done several of them. If you have decent mechanical skills you should have little problems, but as I always say, if you don't feel comfortable working on a gun, take it to a competent gunsmith. The Apex trigger kit is money very well spent in my opinion. It will transform your M&P into something that's actually enjoyable to shoot. It is really a night and day difference from factory. Thanks for watching, and take care.
Good video, my only question is, is it ok to dry fire the .22? I've always been told never to dry fire a rim fire. Regardless, you did a great job taking multiple trigger pulls so that we could see the average, and video quality was great. Keep up the good work.
+Bo Erwin Thanks for the kind words. It is ok to occasionally dry fire MOST modern .22LR firearms. However, I wouldn't make a habit of it. It is possible to flatten firing pins, or work up a burr on the breach face that can cause misfires and malfunctions. If the guns owners manual recommends not dry firing the gun, I wouldn't do it. I definitely wouldn't dry fire older .22's because of the materials the older guns are made of. Older guns (pre 2000's) were made from softer materials, and are more prone to damage from dry firing. I suggest getting some .22 snap caps. Since this video I have purchased some. Take care, and be safe.
+Bo Erwin I think Pistols with slides you can dry fire rim fire a bit. But do not do Revolvers, it dents the cylinders. Old colts you can open the cylinder and leave it hanging and dry fire a bit, but that can do harding on the hammer pin too. So sparingly is Key here. Best to use old fired casings.
+leandro line Thank you. I'm sorry, but I'm not familiar with the Ghost trigger system for the M&P's. I have heard of a condition that the M&P's have, where people refer to it as a ghost reset. Referring to a click that happens before the trigger actually resets. Is this what you mean? If not, send me a link to a Ghost trigger system, and I'll see what I can do. Thanks for watching!
Hi there. Thank you for the video. Out of curiosity, I don't have any mechanical engineering so I'm wondering how long do you think it'll take me to install this trigger in my M&P 9m? Thanks.
Well, I can't say for sure, but there are some great videos on youtube showing how the M&P is disassembled. It's a moderately simple pistol to work on. Just follow the instructions and you should have no problems. If you don't feel comfortable taking a gun apart, I always suggest taking it to a qualified gunsmith. The apex trigger is a great upgrade to the M&P. Good luck. Thanks for watching.
Mine was, it was pulling around 7.5lbs. and I could not get a consistent trigger press straight to the rear with the factory trigger shoe. My front sight would consistently dip low and left. The ergonomics of my hand just didn't work with the gun. The APEX kit fixed all of that.
m&p should have that trigger from the beggining
MS626 at least the duty carry kit but the 2.0 is a huge improvement.
And night sights
I put the standard hard sear in mine..Trigger is much lighter but reset still isn't that audible..504 sent me,Subbed!
Thanks for stopping by guys. The apex trigger is a must if you ask me. I'm definitely going to be putting one in my M&P Shield. Take care.
Albatross497
Put the R.A.M. Kit in. Problem solved.
$20
My brand new shield 9mm has an 11 pound on average trigger. I think I got a Massachusetts gun. They have a 10 pound min law there. I will be changing it out with the apex asap.
+Marvin Pitney I had the same experience as well. My shield trigger was pulling at 9 pounds. I dropped in the apex trigger kit and it made it a whole new gun. The apex trigger is worth every penny if you ask me. Thanks for watching and be safe.
g54023 yeah I have the apex duty trigger kit installed in my shield and it's an awesome edc gun. I absolutely love it. It's like shooting a new gun. I'm going to get the flat faced trigger kit for my full size m&p next as that is a range/night stand gun.
Please don't say 8.9 pounds when the gauge clearly says 8 pounds 9 ounces. Other than that you are right that upgraded trigger is amazing
Hunter Smith and d.
I'm waiting on the Apex trigger to get here now but my stock trigger was only 3 pounds 5 ounces out of the box. Not bad at all.
Use the factory trigger spring, and your pull will be even less. If you want it less.
g54023 I went to Amazon to order my new Apex trigger and there are two different prices, one is about $170 and the other around $80 what one did you get?
+Marvin Pitney I bought this particular one in the vid from MidwayUSA for $130.00 for the kit with the polymer trigger shoe for the M&P only, you have to buy a kit specific to the Shield for around $150.00. The only one that I found on Amazon was the Duty kit for $180.00. That's a little over priced if you ask me. You can get it directly from Apex tactical for $170.00 as of 5/1/2016. I'd suggest Midway or Brownells, they have great prices. I'd also recommend the the kit that includes the Apex trigger shoe, It makes a HUGE difference. I hope this helps, and let me know if you have any other questions. Take care.
great vid disagree on the disconnect. In a struggle if you can disengage the mag they won't be able to get you with your own weapon. And some say that's impossible I can indeed tell you it is not. any help as far as safety is a good thing whether you like it or not don't buy it or use it. But is is far from ridiculous. My first LEO job our issued Smith's had disconnects and some have said it saved their life.
Understood, it's all just a matter of opinion. I just don't prefer mag disconnects because it can work against you too. If your mag happens to come out, and you are able to reengage that 1 round could save your life, so it could go either way. This is also not a combat handgun, it's a training tool/range plinker. For myself, as an instructor, I've personally seen it confuse new shooters, even after I've explained it to them. I totally respect your opinion for the reasons you stated, but I myself am not a fan of magazine disconnects. If you don't mind them, that's cool. Thanks for the kind words, the interesting comment, and sharing your prospective. Stay safe, and take care.
It doesn't feel like 4.5 pounds because it isn't. 4.5 pounds would be 4 lbs, 8 oz. You're tester is measuring about 4 lbs, 3oz. Thanks for the info though, great job!
Just shot my new M&P .40c........the trigger sucks! How long and involved was the switch out? And I am assuming the Apex is around 130.00? Would be $$$ well spent I'm sure-
Yeah, I'm not a fan of the M&P trigger either. The price really depends on what kit you buy, but the one I put in the gun in the video was around $130.00 back in 2014. Apex has a great video of how to install the trigger kit here on youtube. It might even be in the sidebar on this video. Time it takes to install will depend on your skill level, and the tools you have available. It usually takes me about 20 to 30 minutes to polish and swap everything out, but I've done several of them. If you have decent mechanical skills you should have little problems, but as I always say, if you don't feel comfortable working on a gun, take it to a competent gunsmith. The Apex trigger kit is money very well spent in my opinion. It will transform your M&P into something that's actually enjoyable to shoot. It is really a night and day difference from factory. Thanks for watching, and take care.
Thanks for the info, am going to upgrade for sure-
rex woodcutter just got mine for $104. Forward set sear with poly trigger shoe.
Good video, my only question is, is it ok to dry fire the .22? I've always been told never to dry fire a rim fire. Regardless, you did a great job taking multiple trigger pulls so that we could see the average, and video quality was great. Keep up the good work.
+Bo Erwin Thanks for the kind words. It is ok to occasionally dry fire MOST modern .22LR firearms. However, I wouldn't make a habit of it. It is possible to flatten firing pins, or work up a burr on the breach face that can cause misfires and malfunctions. If the guns owners manual recommends not dry firing the gun, I wouldn't do it. I definitely wouldn't dry fire older .22's because of the materials the older guns are made of. Older guns (pre 2000's) were made from softer materials, and are more prone to damage from dry firing. I suggest getting some .22 snap caps. Since this video I have purchased some. Take care, and be safe.
+Bo Erwin I think Pistols with slides you can dry fire rim fire a bit. But do not do Revolvers, it dents the cylinders. Old colts you can open the cylinder and leave it hanging and dry fire a bit, but that can do harding on the hammer pin too. So sparingly is Key here. Best to use old fired casings.
+Bo Erwin dont dry fire rimfires. for the most part it hits around the chamber and moves material around. some are safe but most arent.
great video. I was wondering if u could please make a video showing how to assemble the Ghost trigger on the M&P.
+leandro line Thank you. I'm sorry, but I'm not familiar with the Ghost trigger system for the M&P's. I have heard of a condition that the M&P's have, where people refer to it as a ghost reset. Referring to a click that happens before the trigger actually resets. Is this what you mean? If not, send me a link to a Ghost trigger system, and I'll see what I can do. Thanks for watching!
Apex trigger is the way to go PITA to install but worth the end result
Hi there. Thank you for the video. Out of curiosity, I don't have any mechanical engineering so I'm wondering how long do you think it'll take me to install this trigger in my M&P 9m? Thanks.
Well, I can't say for sure, but there are some great videos on youtube showing how the M&P is disassembled. It's a moderately simple pistol to work on. Just follow the instructions and you should have no problems. If you don't feel comfortable taking a gun apart, I always suggest taking it to a qualified gunsmith. The apex trigger is a great upgrade to the M&P. Good luck. Thanks for watching.
Thanks for responding. I'll see how it goes.
What model # was the Trigger ?
Will this work on the M&P 45?
I'm not really sure. That would be a question for apex tactical. Thanks for watching.
Update: According to some of the specs on different websites, this trigger will work with all calibers.
Apex makes one for a 45...not interchangeable.
Is the M&P Shield trigger also this bad? Im having second thoughts...might get the G26 instead.
Oliver Lorenzo In my experience, yes it is. I swapped the trigger in my Shield for an APEX. In my opinion it's a must have on a M&P.
Mine was, it was pulling around 7.5lbs. and I could not get a consistent trigger press straight to the rear with the factory trigger shoe. My front sight would consistently dip low and left. The ergonomics of my hand just didn't work with the gun. The APEX kit fixed all of that.
Can you install the APEX trigger parts but still keep the factory shoe?
Duane Catlett I've never tried. That would be a question for Apex. I'm not sure if the geometry would be an issue.
Thanks, I’ve been doing some searching, and the answer is yes. Apex has the spring kits.
Thanks
I cringed when I saw the .22 pistol dry fired
Quit saying drivel like "all that good stuff". It is babbling. If you don't have something to say don't say it.