As requested, I made another video showing higher speeds as well as inside the car with windows up. I also compared to a vehicle without PWS: ruclips.net/video/0Fna39CLs_E/видео.html
They should have made the sound horse hooves and large wooden cart wheels. I mean, since we're setting things back in time, why not go all the way guys, come on.
I'm sure there will be different sounds to be downloaded, like this is the case with smartphones. I already imagine the "music" we will hear from our streets. At least: Different manufacturer, different sound. ;-)
Even more simple is find the fuse. Someone I know, not me, pulled the dedicated fuse for the pedestrian warning in their Volt. My friend, not me, can then easily just pop it back in for it to work again. Don't know if the Model 3 has a dedicated fuse or not.
It’s a single speaker with a cable connected to it. It should easily be disconnected (just like your stereo speakers). The real question should be if the car senses that the speaker has been disconnected and throws a warning code. Anyone want to test it out? 🕵🏻♂️
I like it. I've been in many situations where I'm driving thru a parking lot (like Costco or something) and stupid people walk right down the middle of the lane. I don't want to honk and scare them, but the current car is so quiet that they don't hear you to move out the way!
Well, mankind finally invents silent, peaceful motorized transport that is fast and powerful and government has to step in and ruin it. Fortunately, rules were meant to be broken.
@Official Tester That would be tragic. Which is why people are taught to look both ways before crossing a street. I cannot support a rule that requires a beeper on all-electric cars but not on quiet gas cars. There is no excuse for the double standard.
@siliara The noisemakers have nothing to do with people who are blind - it's regulation driven by anti-EV interests. One more cumbersome regulation that EV's have. They didn't require this on hybrids - even ones that use pure EV mode at slow speeds, only pure EV's have to comply! It's an American legislative disgrace!
@siliara Prove that there's a statistically meaningful correlation between the advent of electric vehicles and motor vehicle accidents involving visually impaired pedestrians.
This is so stupid! Part of the draw of an electric car is the silence. Now we are going to hear all of this noise during bumper to bumper traffic. Talk about noise polution.
@@jackcarroll6801 , the latest with electric cars is that under 19 mph, they must emit a sound to alert pedestrians. My point is that in bumper to bumper traffic (under the 19 mph) can you imagine all the noise on the highway these cars( electric) will be making because of a new law. When other ice vehicles dont have to emit any additional sound. Google it, you can listen to the sound they have to make, it's pretty annoying. It will sound like the jetson's going down the highway.
@@18837dc i understand but i’ve vehicles are ALREADY making noise. so what’s a small hum of an electric car going to contribute to that. also i’m pretty sure tesla is smart enough to disable the noise when the vehicle is on a roadway and now in a parking lot
@@potatoman2442 I get it, but there are plenty of silent ice vehicles out there and they dont have to make extra noise for blind pedestrians. This just seems one sided. Have it that all vehicles that make under a certain exterior road noise decibel included in this.
@@senortaco3563 Except, ICE vehicle are for the most part silent these days and NOT designed to create annoying attention getting noises. The part I cannot wait for is when electricity prices begin to skyrocket to cash in on the growing demand for charging watts LOL We will see all the EV fanatics crying about how cheap gasoline is due to the waning demand - I predict 75c per gallon and lower gasoline prices as EV adoption grows resulting in a sudden demand for ICE vehicles again
That's appalling. One of the best things about electric cars is the silence. I reckon it is part of the Dinosaur car manufacturers campaign against electric cars. I was looking forward to a quieter community, but this noise is just plain obnoxious.
No you can thanks idiots in Government. That have no clue about what they regulate. My gas powered car is quieter than this.. and plenty of gas powered cars are essentially silent when rolling at slow speeds. You will only hear tire noise. This whole thing is idiotic... Govt regulations
@@martialman.4563 I don't think any cars have had a sound maker in them yet .. no Prius I know of has one . Been almost 12 years since the Bush Administration.
@@martialman.4563 Unfortunate.. the silence is one of the coolest things. My Prius is silent at slow speeds.. Be interesting to see if there are any statistics on how many pedestrian have been hit by Priuses in the last 21 years..
Maybe everyone (pedestrians included) could just start paying attention and keeping their faces out of their devices and their earbuds out of their ears. Glad I have an older Model 3.
@@BFArch0n, I fully understand the concern about the blind. My question would be if car/ped crashes where the ped is blind are due to the pedestrian not hearing the car or the driver not paying attention to their surroundings? I would propose it is the latter and that making EVs make noise will do nothing to help drivers pay attention.
i might add here that this is all political. particularly in europe all these 1 - 2 L cars are extremely quiet and nowhere near as loud as a Tesla. I remember having a Model S drive past me in a parking lot before (this was the first time I ever saw one). Because it is such a behemoth the tire noise makes it much louder than our smaller gas cars in europe.
@@joeputz4559 On the speaker inputs?? then you could replace the speaker with an 8Ohm or 4 ohm resister...to emulate speaker...but again I actually like the reverse. sound...
The reverse UFO noise is cool. Reminds me of Star Trek. I’d prefer that over the fan noise for forward motion. I’d imagine a simple disconnect would solve the problem if you don’t like it, if not a software work around.
Let me know if you figure out how to do this. Really, I wouldn’t mind having the ufo sound all the time. Wonder if we can find the sound file and have it part of the drive sounds. Sounds really cool to me.
I'm the guy who use to install those speakers in an area called Chassis 2B. It's actually on the left side for all cars shipped to China, I use to install it along with the wheel liner. They're mandatory on all electric cars now right after I quit.
Ngl some dude just backed up next to me and I was so confused when I heard that sound. I enjoy my blacked out silent 3. Makes it extra spooky. I also enjoy giving people standing in the road a nice spook when I hit the horn. Would disable those speakers.
Wait.. If a car has sensors 360 around the car, surely it should only make sound if something is there in the direction of travel? For reverse a sound is fine, but forward it shouldn't have to make a sound if the car can detect no objects a minimum distance away. Also, why is it just for EV's?? Surely it should be mandated for ANY car below a db? Feels like a really old rule before computer vision existed and with ICE manufacturers influence.
I totally get how important this is for pedestrians. I also totally get how annoyed Tesla owners and future Tesla owners (myself included) might feel about this. But I think people will find that 95% of their driving is beyond 19 mph and probably 1% of driving is in reverse. In the grand scheme of things I really dont mind it. Also, think about the awesome tones you might be able to download!? I know I know it must pass a requirment but all I am thinking about is meeting George Jetson.
if there were more 'voices' that came with this feature it would be charming. like harman kardon's v8 synthesis. would be a lot of fun hearing an EV roar like that, pops and bangs and shift sounds.
This PWS actually saved my life, there was a rival gang member driving in a newer tesla model 3 trying to do an EV silent drive by shooting, but I heard him!
Like most I don’t like it but I’ve seen a lot of issues where pedestrians and bikers have no idea the car is near them. The sound isn’t going to bug me driving so I really shouldn’t care. I just hope there are Easter eggs for this in the future.
Oh. My. God. That reverse noise is obnoxious. Thank God I've already got my Tesla. I intend to hack my next EV to at least lower the volume of the PSW.
Well done. I remember when I was in Nancy (France) in 1999 where I was a PhD student at the time and almost got killed by an electric Peugeot 106 which was running with absolutely no noise except tyre noise. By the way, these were the first effective cars and perhaps the first to enter production. In 1995, Peugeot launched an electric powered version of the 106, called the 106 Electrique. This was offered in a number of European countries including France, Belgium, The Netherlands, Norway and the United Kingdom. The electric powertrain was developed and built by French bus and truck company Heuliez and it would also be used on the Cleanova from SVE later as a joint venture with Dassault and Hydro-Quebec. The car used Nickel-cadmium battery technology manufactured by Saft Groupe S.A., had a top speed of 56 mph (90 km/h) and had an official range of 100 km (62 mi) which was very good for the time.
@@akzebraminer On that occasion, I discovered that humans use fusion of information from eyesite and ears to cross streets as cars make a lot noise with petrol engines. Have you ever been to the beautiful Nancy, like so many French cities, you look up at wonders surrounding you and check quickly and listen mostly and here you have a safe crossing until you happen to see one of those rare electric cars (I did know that they existed in 1999). Did I say that the gov should protect me? Perhaps by voting laws which make some car design requests understanding how people behave to increase their safety.
It doesn't seem very loud considering the going in and out of park sound (not sure what that is but could be park brake) seems to be very loud compared.
@@ryan.vision Thanks Ryan. Yes, I have now seen it talked about on other channels. Seems it is yet another government mandated requirement. I can understand the need for it, I guess, but the kind of noise is what I find objectionable. Forward is okay but that reverse noise sounds stupid and embarrassing. Being mandated, it will have to meet certain standards though.
I do not understand the need for this. It is stupid. What’s next? Mandatory earring aids for older people so they can ear the sound and be safer?!? Mandatory sounds for ICE vehicles that do not make enough decibels at low speeds because they are too efficient?!? Stupid laws...
Does it really have to be that loud? Maybe it’s that loud to overcome ambient noise. The fact that he’s recording close to a large flat building wall would make it sound louder than it would in a wide open space. Some duct tape over the speaker grill would reduce the volume.
That sounds absolutely horrendous! It sounds like some horrible electric drive or drivetrain failure. I am so happy that crappy PWS is NOT in my Model 3!!! My PWS is called a horn which in a year and a half of ownership I have not even needed to use. I live in a big city and a lot of time my car is driving in slow traffic and all you would hear is that insanely horrific sound that would absolutely drive me and everybody else around me nuts!
Went to a Tesla showroom today got to hear the PWS sounds. The backup noise is pretty cool and not annoying. The forward sound isn't as loud as this video makes it out to be and not bad at all. I still think this system isn't needed though and if we have to have it then we should be afforded various noises to use, to make it find of fun.
@@ryan.vision Yes I. already knew it gets louder with speed and it still didn't sound as loud as in the video. So when I upgrade my Tesla down the road, I can live with this system. But really hope by then, we'll get to pick different sounds.
I like how all electric cars have to be fit with a noisemaker now. Think of a Toyota Prius, it doesn’t have a noisemaker but it’s extremely quiet. Think of most of the new Nissan cars or any inexpensive car, they are dead silent usually and they don’t need a noisemaker. I want all cars to be silent because it will be so much easier
6:06 For safety reason, even with non-blind people but distracted, the audio warning is one of the only way to re-aware pedestrians. Yeah, I can understand EV will no longer completely silent. Just don't remove it. it's bad idea! (crashed) 8:20 The Reverse mode focus the mirror to the ground to allow you see the side when parking!!! WOW! clever!!!
I would be interested in how the sound disappears when driving faster and how it sounds when driving over 30mph and the sound deactivates compared to driving 29 mph with sound on
OMG... Is this still active at 30 km/h (appx. 18 mph)? Here in Germany they enlarge 30 km/h limits everywhere. This would mean more noise than before with conventional cars.
I really don't like the PWS rule. One of the reason I like about the EV is its quietness. However, if Tesla makes several fun sound options for PWS, I may like it.
I don't mind the reverse ufo sound, but the foward sound is disgusting. They should let us have the option to play the jetsons flying car sounds instead.
LMFAO, I was at target and parked next to a Tesla model X, and as I was checking my oil, the Tesla reversed and all I heard was a UFO like noise and was super confused
Picked up my Model 3 Performance Plus a year ago this month, so no issue for me personally. But it wouldn’t matter either way. I’d still have to get the snippers out and disconnect those wires. Atrocious.
The risk in doing that is if you end up hitting a pedestrianand during the investigation they find out you disconnected the system you're going to be in serious legal trouble. your insurance company will probably not pay for the injury to the other person and you will end up getting sued by The pedestrian. personally I think the warning system is idiotic most gas cars don't make any noise when they're sitting there either, and certainly when they're moving at slow speeds all you hear is tire noise on the pavement.
Ridiculous. A result of regulation by opinion not fact. Seen many maimed visually impaired pedestrians aside the road lately? Next mandate will require 1960s era cop-car cherry roof lights to warn the hearing impaired. Save the hearing impaired, install a cherry atop every car! Teslas should have the option to activate fart mode (ref Monty Python....I fart in your general direction 💨)
Ironically this type of regulation is promulgated by young liberal career bureaucrats at the EPA, DOT and NHTSA that are trying to make a name for themselves. You folks are getting exactly what you always voted for - government control over all aspects of your life :)
The sound is to conform to the Pedestrian Safety Enhancement act of 2010. In checking the NHTSA studies that were used to justify the act, crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api/Public/ViewPublication/811204, and crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api/Public/ViewPublication/811526, it appears that the studies have flawed methodology. NHTSA compared hybrid electrics (HE's) to ICEs by dividing HE pedestrian and bike accidents with all HE accidents, not HE accidents per HE's in operation per mile on the road. Since HE's probably tend to be driven in urban and slower speed areas, the accident rate would tend to be weighted towards more slow speed pedestrian and bicycle accidents. HE drivers might even have lower accident rates in general. When you divide by total accidents, more general ICE accidents lowers the pedestrian and bike accident ratios for ICE's. The original data was from police reports of accidents where the speeds were rather imprecise. Vision impairment was not part of the police reports. Basically, it looks like the NHTSA fudged the data to favor adding car noise.
So here in NYC where avg Manhattan speed is literally 7mph and many other cities for that matter... I’d have to hear this noise non-stop? I have an early M3 w/o this feature thankfully. I do not like it. Reverse is one thing, but going forward? That’s why cars have horns.
My father got his model 3 a week ago and i can confirm the car does have the PWS installed. Is there any way we can change the sound font or is there only one available?
I have a Leaf and a model 3. I silenced my Leaf with the app leaf spy. I’m glad my model 3 is a year old. And will remain silent for as much as I can. That noise is HORRIBLE!
LOL - hilarious... mall parking lots are going sound like jetson episode. BTW, that reverse hum is very irritating. Still wouldnt trade these noises for actual IC engine noises.
As requested, I made another video showing higher speeds as well as inside the car with windows up. I also compared to a vehicle without PWS: ruclips.net/video/0Fna39CLs_E/видео.html
They should have made the sound horse hooves and large wooden cart wheels.
I mean, since we're setting things back in time, why not go all the way guys, come on.
made my day - but so true
Love the idea. In fact, Tesla should give us several options of sounds as one of the Easter eggs.
Haha or they could just use the current Farting sounds. :)
@@marcpilkington6974 When they release emission test mode I thought the Farting noise would audible on the outside to make fun of gas cars....
I'm sure there will be different sounds to be downloaded, like this is the case with smartphones. I already imagine the "music" we will hear from our streets. At least: Different manufacturer, different sound. ;-)
Next video, How to disconnect the speaker
If that isn't permitted (software interlocked) just fill the speaker cone with silicone. It should be enough to attenuate the noise
Or choose between a lot of choices, or that is a must.
The Back sound is atrocious.
Even more simple is find the fuse. Someone I know, not me, pulled the dedicated fuse for the pedestrian warning in their Volt. My friend, not me, can then easily just pop it back in for it to work again. Don't know if the Model 3 has a dedicated fuse or not.
It’s a single speaker with a cable connected to it. It should easily be disconnected (just like your stereo speakers). The real question should be if the car senses that the speaker has been disconnected and throws a warning code. Anyone want to test it out? 🕵🏻♂️
@@BecauseTesla The fuse is easier to pull. Just open the fusebox and pull it.
Forward sounds like a jet plane flying overhead.
Yes that look interesting, people will be looking in the sky...
@@lucrolland7489 and then get run over lol
@@RCFourFive LOL !
That is what I thought, too!
Exactly, you'll be looking for that, not a car heading towards you. Reverse sounds like tinnitus.
Yup, glad I picked mine up last year. I would be disconnecting this 100% for sure.
I like it. I've been in many situations where I'm driving thru a parking lot (like Costco or something) and stupid people walk right down the middle of the lane. I don't want to honk and scare them, but the current car is so quiet that they don't hear you to move out the way!
*Why go there? Costco has the Time Masheen, it's also where I got my law degree. Just get a big diesel truck instead - problemsolved*
f_cking ridiculous. its far louder than any modern ICE car.
Well, mankind finally invents silent, peaceful motorized transport that is fast and powerful and government has to step in and ruin it. Fortunately, rules were meant to be broken.
I wonder why gas cars aren't required to have a really loud back up noise too?
@Official Tester That would be tragic. Which is why people are taught to look both ways before crossing a street. I cannot support a rule that requires a beeper on all-electric cars but not on quiet gas cars. There is no excuse for the double standard.
@siliara The noisemakers have nothing to do with people who are blind - it's regulation driven by anti-EV interests. One more cumbersome regulation that EV's have. They didn't require this on hybrids - even ones that use pure EV mode at slow speeds, only pure EV's have to comply!
It's an American legislative disgrace!
@siliara Prove that there's a statistically meaningful correlation between the advent of electric vehicles and motor vehicle accidents involving visually impaired pedestrians.
Remove the stupid thing
That's the way louder than most modern Ice cars
This is so stupid! Part of the draw of an electric car is the silence. Now we are going to hear all of this noise during bumper to bumper traffic. Talk about noise polution.
bruh. gas cars are louder. what are you talking about
@@jackcarroll6801 , the latest with electric cars is that under 19 mph, they must emit a sound to alert pedestrians. My point is that in bumper to bumper traffic (under the 19 mph) can you imagine all the noise on the highway these cars( electric) will be making because of a new law. When other ice vehicles dont have to emit any additional sound. Google it, you can listen to the sound they have to make, it's pretty annoying. It will sound like the jetson's going down the highway.
@@18837dc i understand but i’ve vehicles are ALREADY making noise. so what’s a small hum of an electric car going to contribute to that. also i’m pretty sure tesla is smart enough to disable the noise when the vehicle is on a roadway and now in a parking lot
Not stupid. Its so blind people can hear the car.
@@potatoman2442 I get it, but there are plenty of silent ice vehicles out there and they dont have to make extra noise for blind pedestrians. This just seems one sided. Have it that all vehicles that make under a certain exterior road noise decibel included in this.
This is really annoying. So i can imagine sitting in traffic on the highway and all the cars are making a shitload of unnecessary noise.
man imagine 20 years ahead when all cars are electric. lolol
All the cars around you are already making a shitload of noise ;)
@@raider1284 except the noises are NOT designed to irritate and catch peoples attention.
You'll get use to it, Just like you're use to ice vehicle noises....
@@senortaco3563 Except, ICE vehicle are for the most part silent these days and NOT designed to create annoying attention getting noises.
The part I cannot wait for is when electricity prices begin to skyrocket to cash in on the growing demand for charging watts LOL
We will see all the EV fanatics crying about how cheap gasoline is due to the waning demand - I predict 75c per gallon and lower gasoline prices as EV adoption grows resulting in a sudden demand for ICE vehicles again
Can you imagine 50 cars downtown from multiple manufactures..... how all those sounds will be stepping on each other..... bummer.
It's going to be more difficult sneaking away from your girlfriend's house.
Get away in reverse, then she could say that she has been visited by aliens.
Easy. Go over 20 mph!!!
Or boyfriend's.... slurp💦
THAT'S why everyone is so upset!
You could just unplug the speaker
We took delivery in feb 2019, thank god. Good luck trying to install this in our car.
I love that just think eventually you could change the sound it makes.
According to Elon's Twitter, the car will soon use the same speaker to talk to pedestrians.
Thanks for sharing. Multi Coat Red looks amazing in the sunshine. Congrats.
Thank you!! It really comes to life in the sun!
That's appalling. One of the best things about electric cars is the silence. I reckon it is part of the Dinosaur car manufacturers campaign against electric cars. I was looking forward to a quieter community, but this noise is just plain obnoxious.
No you can thanks idiots in Government. That have no clue about what they regulate.
My gas powered car is quieter than this.. and plenty of gas powered cars are essentially silent when rolling at slow speeds. You will only hear tire noise.
This whole thing is idiotic... Govt regulations
It came from the Bush administration after the prius
@@martialman.4563
I don't think any cars have had a sound maker in them yet .. no Prius I know of has one .
Been almost 12 years since the Bush Administration.
@@kens97sto171 Yes, most electric cars have noise makers now and all new ones will soon.
@@martialman.4563
Unfortunate.. the silence is one of the coolest things.
My Prius is silent at slow speeds..
Be interesting to see if there are any statistics on how many pedestrian have been hit by Priuses in the last 21 years..
Thank you. I picked up my car 2 days ago and I was about to make a service appointment. You saved me from anxiety!
Maybe everyone (pedestrians included) could just start paying attention and keeping their faces out of their devices and their earbuds out of their ears. Glad I have an older Model 3.
As for the blind?
@@BFArch0n, I fully understand the concern about the blind. My question would be if car/ped crashes where the ped is blind are due to the pedestrian not hearing the car or the driver not paying attention to their surroundings? I would propose it is the latter and that making EVs make noise will do nothing to help drivers pay attention.
i might add here that this is all political. particularly in europe all these 1 - 2 L cars are extremely quiet and nowhere near as loud as a Tesla. I remember having a Model S drive past me in a parking lot before (this was the first time I ever saw one). Because it is such a behemoth the tire noise makes it much louder than our smaller gas cars in europe.
@@kingprone7846 agreed. 100% political. Many hybrids in the US are just as quiet but are they going to have to have noise makers?
@Car Fli apparently not, since it isn't electric... So, yes, it's more about politics.
Why cant we choose the noise...I m in for a horse trotting noise going faster with speed.
Very good 😂
Some guy changed his sound to the bruh sound effect 😂
I like it, sounds like a regular gasoline engine sound going forward, and a futuristic car reversing lol.
I find this to be pretty awesome. My accord has a pedestrian warning system that sounds like organs it’s pretty cool!
Cuts speaker cable check engine light comes up 😂
warever I disconnected the speaker. Nothing happens
Duct tape over the light. All better.
First thing I do when I take delivery is to take this junk out and smash it
Rudolph Xu, Me too!
Pull the fuse. Then if needed it is easy just to put it back in.
@@SpencerTambo Not currently
Cables can be cut! Oh did I say the out loud! ;)
you might not have said that. we can safely blame it on me.
If you cut the cables the car recognizes the system failure. It then automatically schedules the repair for you.
@@joeputz4559 On the speaker inputs?? then you could replace the speaker with an 8Ohm or 4 ohm resister...to emulate speaker...but again I actually like the reverse. sound...
Yes and mice/rats have been know to chew through them ...
Silicone inside the speaker may be a better solution...
The reverse UFO noise is cool. Reminds me of Star Trek. I’d prefer that over the fan noise for forward motion.
I’d imagine a simple disconnect would solve the problem if you don’t like it, if not a software work around.
Let me know if you figure out how to do this. Really, I wouldn’t mind having the ufo sound all the time. Wonder if we can find the sound file and have it part of the drive sounds. Sounds really cool to me.
Sounds like a Siemens Taurus loco
Great video.
Awful “feature”.
why's it awful?
The reverse is awful. Forward is kind of like pink noise. Not awful. I prefer no sound.
Important to indicate that you are in reverse with a hard noise.
You need to ask the government to remove/trash the regulation for Pedestrian Warning System
@@naieuc No, not in the UK, with the drivers being very rude and intimidating towards the pedestrians , you need to have those warnings.
I'm the guy who use to install those speakers in an area called Chassis 2B. It's actually on the left side for all cars shipped to China, I use to install it along with the wheel liner.
They're mandatory on all electric cars now right after I quit.
Mine is on the right ride, 2019 Model 3.
@@ryan.vision Yeah I just realized the Chinese cars are right hand drive, so the speakers are on the opposite side
I like it to have a reverse sound, for safety reasons when I wouldn't see pedestrians while backing out. Not so much about forward sound.
They hit pedestrians going forward too
thanks for sharing ...many ice car doesnt make that much sound level ... agree with the disabling... still not mandatory in Canada ....
Thanks I heard my wife backing out of garage and had no idea what it was.
I think the reverse sounds great. The forward sounds just like an ICE :(
Now I now why pedestrians are increasingly wearing noise cancelling headgear...
Ngl some dude just backed up next to me and I was so confused when I heard that sound. I enjoy my blacked out silent 3. Makes it extra spooky. I also enjoy giving people standing in the road a nice spook when I hit the horn. Would disable those speakers.
Only downside is not having fun with the boombox and loudspeaker features but those get old pretty quick anyways.
Wait.. If a car has sensors 360 around the car, surely it should only make sound if something is there in the direction of travel? For reverse a sound is fine, but forward it shouldn't have to make a sound if the car can detect no objects a minimum distance away. Also, why is it just for EV's?? Surely it should be mandated for ANY car below a db? Feels like a really old rule before computer vision existed and with ICE manufacturers influence.
I hope we can upload our own sounds
me watching in 2021 with teslas with bruh sounds crawling the streets
80s called and want their scifi sounds back
I like the sound it makes it futuristic
Just picked mine up today and heard this sound :( The reverse kinda sounds like how a UFO would sound like lol
Jason Wakuzawa, I feel your pain bro.
I just hope my inventory one does not bring this...
This sounds like shit - Thanks for yet another crap law EU! Is it not possible to deactivate?
I totally get how important this is for pedestrians. I also totally get how annoyed Tesla owners and future Tesla owners (myself included) might feel about this. But I think people will find that 95% of their driving is beyond 19 mph and probably 1% of driving is in reverse. In the grand scheme of things I really dont mind it. Also, think about the awesome tones you might be able to download!? I know I know it must pass a requirment but all I am thinking about is meeting George Jetson.
if there were more 'voices' that came with this feature it would be charming. like harman kardon's v8 synthesis. would be a lot of fun hearing an EV roar like that, pops and bangs and shift sounds.
This PWS actually saved my life, there was a rival gang member driving in a newer tesla model 3 trying to do an EV silent drive by shooting, but I heard him!
*And once one of you clowns end up behind Bubba in the clink, your passed gas will be as silent as one of those EVs too!*
Like most I don’t like it but I’ve seen a lot of issues where pedestrians and bikers have no idea the car is near them. The sound isn’t going to bug me driving so I really shouldn’t care. I just hope there are Easter eggs for this in the future.
Fart sounds could be fun hahaha
Oh. My. God. That reverse noise is obnoxious. Thank God I've already got my Tesla. I intend to hack my next EV to at least lower the volume of the PSW.
Honestly the foreword one isn’t that bad, but reverse is terrible
Its calming to me, especially from the inside
Too much talking not enough video of driver
Well done. I remember when I was in Nancy (France) in 1999 where I was a PhD student at the time and almost got killed by an electric Peugeot 106 which was running with absolutely no noise except tyre noise. By the way, these were the first effective cars and perhaps the first to enter production. In 1995, Peugeot launched an electric powered version of the 106, called the 106 Electrique. This was offered in a number of European countries including France, Belgium, The Netherlands, Norway and the United Kingdom.
The electric powertrain was developed and built by French bus and truck company Heuliez and it would also be used on the Cleanova from SVE later as a joint venture with Dassault and Hydro-Quebec. The car used Nickel-cadmium battery technology manufactured by Saft Groupe S.A., had a top speed of 56 mph (90 km/h) and had an official range of 100 km (62 mi) which was very good for the time.
should have taken your walkman off har.
Luc Rolland So you didn’t look both ways so now you want the government to protect you? Perfect!
@@akzebraminer On that occasion, I discovered that humans use fusion of information from eyesite and ears to cross streets as cars make a lot noise with petrol engines. Have you ever been to the beautiful Nancy, like so many French cities, you look up at wonders surrounding you and check quickly and listen mostly and here you have a safe crossing until you happen to see one of those rare electric cars (I did know that they existed in 1999). Did I say that the gov should protect me? Perhaps by voting laws which make some car design requests understanding how people behave to increase their safety.
It doesn't seem very loud considering the going in and out of park sound (not sure what that is but could be park brake) seems to be very loud compared.
Yeah, that noise is louder, but only happens for a short time during the shift.
It sounds a little bit like a TIE fighter going forward. Low key though, that would be kinda awesome 😅
Please tell me this is just a bad joke!
Sorry, not a joke, 100% real
@@ryan.vision Thanks Ryan. Yes, I have now seen it talked about on other channels. Seems it is yet another government mandated requirement. I can understand the need for it, I guess, but the kind of noise is what I find objectionable. Forward is okay but that reverse noise sounds stupid and embarrassing. Being mandated, it will have to meet certain standards though.
I do not understand the need for this. It is stupid.
What’s next? Mandatory earring aids for older people so they can ear the sound and be safer?!?
Mandatory sounds for ICE vehicles that do not make enough decibels at low speeds because they are too efficient?!?
Stupid laws...
@@ryan.vision model s as well?
Great vid. Had no idea this was part of our build (post 9/1). Spaceship!
I'd change the forward sound to the Ghostbusters' ambulance theme sound!
John Hinshaw agree, and as loud as possible! After all BEV should cruise around White House to show how them decisions are in real world implemented
Does it really have to be that loud? Maybe it’s that loud to overcome ambient noise. The fact that he’s recording close to a large flat building wall would make it sound louder than it would in a wide open space. Some duct tape over the speaker grill would reduce the volume.
JEFF BRANSKY, if my inventory car comes with that, I am considering silicone, or something more “liquid”...
Gas cars had to be silent as possible. Electric cars must be two times louder as ICEs ?
The backup sound is pretty cool
That sounds absolutely horrendous! It sounds like some horrible electric drive or drivetrain failure. I am so happy that crappy PWS is NOT in my Model 3!!! My PWS is called a horn which in a year and a half of ownership I have not even needed to use. I live in a big city and a lot of time my car is driving in slow traffic and all you would hear is that insanely horrific sound that would absolutely drive me and everybody else around me nuts!
Went to a Tesla showroom today got to hear the PWS sounds. The backup noise is pretty cool and not annoying. The forward sound isn't as loud as this video makes it out to be and not bad at all. I still think this system isn't needed though and if we have to have it then we should be afforded various noises to use, to make it find of fun.
The forward noise gets much louder with speed so be aware of that if you only heard it under 5 mph.
@@ryan.vision Yes I. already knew it gets louder with speed and it still didn't sound as loud as in the video. So when I upgrade my Tesla down the road, I can live with this system. But really hope by then, we'll get to pick different sounds.
Most Countries have a Law like, that every Avoidable Vehicle Noise is forbidden, and this is very avoidable.
These Teslas really give more of a spaceship, especially with the backup sound.
Now how am I supposed to "Borrow" my parents car.
I like how all electric cars have to be fit with a noisemaker now. Think of a Toyota Prius, it doesn’t have a noisemaker but it’s extremely quiet. Think of most of the new Nissan cars or any inexpensive car, they are dead silent usually and they don’t need a noisemaker. I want all cars to be silent because it will be so much easier
I like the Drive Fan noise, It's not something annoying at least to me and doesn't sound that out of place
POS not PWS
6:06 For safety reason, even with non-blind people but distracted, the audio warning is one of the only way to re-aware pedestrians. Yeah, I can understand EV will no longer completely silent. Just don't remove it. it's bad idea! (crashed)
8:20 The Reverse mode focus the mirror to the ground to allow you see the side when parking!!! WOW! clever!!!
I would be interested in how the sound disappears when driving faster and how it sounds when driving over 30mph and the sound deactivates compared to driving 29 mph with sound on
OMG... Is this still active at 30 km/h (appx. 18 mph)? Here in Germany they enlarge 30 km/h limits everywhere. This would mean more noise than before with conventional cars.
Yes, check out my other video in the top comment on this one. It shows the sound at 19 mph.
Shouldn't it be based on the quietest volume of a gas car moving at these speeds?
I’ve got my duct tape ready.
Make that a wire cutter...
That reverse sound is quite sexy.
If you're blind, you'll truly appreciate this.
Drivers still shouldn’t be smashing into people in the first place. This shouldn’t even be an issue if people didn’t drive like idiots!
@@akzebraminer As long as there's one (1) driver out there who drives like an idiot . . .
Reverse sounds ridiculous. Forward sounds great.
you gonna see a whole lots of model 3 drivers start doing the reverse!
I really don't like the PWS rule. One of the reason I like about the EV is its quietness. However, if Tesla makes several fun sound options for PWS, I may like it.
I heard there’s a way to customize the sounds...I’m gonna make mine sound like a tie fighter lmao
Glad to have taken delivery the week before and dodged this nonsense.
Jason Miles what’s your VIN
Revos Photos why would you need that?
Jason Miles mine is in the 400k so I want to know if it’ll have it. I get it Tuesday
@@miles267 puss puss.
Classic!
Utterly horrible. :(
I don't mind the reverse ufo sound, but the foward sound is disgusting. They should let us have the option to play the jetsons flying car sounds instead.
LMFAO, I was at target and parked next to a Tesla model X, and as I was checking my oil, the Tesla reversed and all I heard was a UFO like noise and was super confused
The reverse sound is kinda cool.
Could it play 'Rockin' in the Free World' in 45' speed when moving backwards?
Picked up my Model 3 Performance Plus a year ago this month, so no issue for me personally. But it wouldn’t matter either way. I’d still have to get the snippers out and disconnect those wires. Atrocious.
The risk in doing that is if you end up hitting a pedestrianand during the investigation they find out you disconnected the system you're going to be in serious legal trouble. your insurance company will probably not pay for the injury to the other person and you will end up getting sued by The pedestrian.
personally I think the warning system is idiotic most gas cars don't make any noise when they're sitting there either, and certainly when they're moving at slow speeds all you hear is tire noise on the pavement.
Now I know what wire to cut first.
What does your VIN end in?
I guess I'm going to be keeping my four year old Tesla for a long time.
Ridiculous. A result of regulation by opinion not fact. Seen many maimed visually impaired pedestrians aside the road lately? Next mandate will require 1960s era cop-car cherry roof lights to warn the hearing impaired. Save the hearing impaired, install a cherry atop every car! Teslas should have the option to activate fart mode (ref Monty Python....I fart in your general direction 💨)
Thanks for making this video, thanks for Tanja for suggesting taking audio from inside! Would've been interesting to hear with windows up as well. :)
You can hear the reverse sound with the windows up, but I don't hear the forward sound. With AC and audio on, you don't hear either.
Why can't the old men up in that big building just leave our beautiful futuristic cars alone
Ironically this type of regulation is promulgated by young liberal career bureaucrats at the EPA, DOT and NHTSA that are trying to make a name for themselves.
You folks are getting exactly what you always voted for - government control over all aspects of your life :)
The sound is to conform to the Pedestrian Safety Enhancement act of 2010. In checking the NHTSA studies that were used to justify the act, crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api/Public/ViewPublication/811204, and crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api/Public/ViewPublication/811526, it appears that the studies have flawed methodology. NHTSA compared hybrid electrics (HE's) to ICEs by dividing HE pedestrian and bike accidents with all HE accidents, not HE accidents per HE's in operation per mile on the road. Since HE's probably tend to be driven in urban and slower speed areas, the accident rate would tend to be weighted towards more slow speed pedestrian and bicycle accidents. HE drivers might even have lower accident rates in general. When you divide by total accidents, more general ICE accidents lowers the pedestrian and bike accident ratios for ICE's. The original data was from police reports of accidents where the speeds were rather imprecise. Vision impairment was not part of the police reports. Basically, it looks like the NHTSA fudged the data to favor adding car noise.
Why not let everyone put their own noises into that.
Maybe even multiple sounds per person with a random selection.
So here in NYC where avg Manhattan speed is literally 7mph and many other cities for that matter... I’d have to hear this noise non-stop? I have an early M3 w/o this feature thankfully. I do not like it. Reverse is one thing, but going forward? That’s why cars have horns.
Pretty soon the cars with the PWS speaker will be talking to pedestrians... imagine how annoying that'll be haha
My father got his model 3 a week ago and i can confirm the car does have the PWS installed. Is there any way we can change the sound font or is there only one available?
Currently there is no way to change the sound but many are hoping for that option later.
Glad I have an old one!!!! That's horrible!!!!
Can you tell me if the forward noise stays on in bumper to bumper traffic.
It'll be on between 0-19 mph, then go quiet at speeds beyond that.
I have a Leaf and a model 3. I silenced my Leaf with the app leaf spy. I’m glad my model 3 is a year old. And will remain silent for as much as I can. That noise is HORRIBLE!
It's amazing. Tesla is amazing
I love the reverse sound lol
It sound like a ufo 🛸 in reverse . And sound a air plan taking off moving forward 👍🏼
that 1st one str8 UFO
LOL - hilarious... mall parking lots are going sound like jetson episode. BTW, that reverse hum is very irritating.
Still wouldnt trade these noises for actual IC engine noises.