Gaijin Made A Small Mistake
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- Опубликовано: 13 апр 2023
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Gaijin implemented their latest round of battle rating changes for War Thunder, and there were some questionable decisions made. While most top tier tanks were moved up, it seems they forgot about the Swedish T-80U which retains its 10.7 battle rating. The Soviet one is now 11.3, despite only getting a better round. I'm not typically a very good top tier player, but I was able to get a nuke after fighting TURMS and BMP-2M players.
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Gaijin Made A Small Mistake 
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please play concept 3
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Are you asking people to put you in a jar?
it would be a good practice tool for *sus* activities
Play the super pershing please
Having recently unlocked the Leo 2 PL, its amazing how often a top tier match just turns into 'defend your spawn from T80s while Ka52s kill you from the next map over'
I have everything in the German air and ground tree and I can promise you it will not get better after you get more vehicles
after Panstir Russian top tier basically can't lose because how one sided the CAS and CAP has become
So I will recommend you stop playing Top tier ground for now
@@turtledovechen176 yep they literally got the best helicopters the one of the best cas (us cas lil better imo) the best aa pantsir able to literally spawn kill Planes on any map and the tanks are far from bad and they get a lot just like the us tree
@@inkozebadigbadig37 even worse! they got the most modern and strongest stuff in game that doesn't even work irl. such bs
@Inkozebadig Badig idk why the didn't just add the Tor for Russia instead of a mobile aa literally no one in the world irl can have a equal match for their own spaa
@@GothicHellhound Funnily enough, the devs literally talked about it in their response to the community pantsir outrage. They considered adding Tor M1 for Russia but deemed it was too bad/ not good enough upgrade from the 2s6 tunguska so the pantsir would be a better choice or something. Meanwhile also gaijin: Tor M1 = Pantsir as both are 11.7 right now.
Here, the exact text again:
"The introduction of the Pantsir-S1 was planned due to the fact that the 2S6/2S6M1 Tunguska SPAAG is significantly inferior to the competition in terms of the combination of missile plus radar efficiency and has some of the worst statistics among all top tier SPAAGs in the game."
"Some players also believe that instead of introducing Pantsir-S1, it was worth introducing the TOR-M1 or TOR-M2 systems. However, according to the game statistics, TOR-M1 is also one of the efficiency outsiders in terms of efficiency and simply can’t help to solve the issue of the late Soviet anti-aircraft lineup."
Tor M2 they also talked about and rightfully said it would be too strong (yeah, stronger than pantsir). As it gets up to 12 missiles with 16km range and high G overload with longer booster time. In the "fire and ice" update russian devstream they did say they will/consider adding a Tor variant to Russia in the future, likely stronger than the Tor M1. Which, to me, just hints at the Tor M2, so yeah... Russia will probably get the Tor M2 eventually as well, probably not soon but eventually. Maybe they will add the Tor M1 regardless as well tho, doesn't cost much effort anyway.
Spook playing 10.7
"You get a lot of downtiers."
Me 27 full uptier games later
"Yeah, so that was a lie."
Maybe with the recent changes its different? I know i get frequent downtiers at 10.7, and even with full uptiers it doesnt even matter. The T-80 is a T-80. Tanks shots with its magic armor.
I get constant downtiers in 10.7 GRB US
I don’t know what you’re smoking, but it seems 10.7 GRB is the same as 10.7 ARB, 19/20 games are downtiers, 1/20 are uptiers.
@@o-mauler-o3021
Negative. 19/20 matches are uptiets at all tiers
1 is a downtime, maybe...I've tried at several brs and had a streak of 90 is a goddamn row at 4.7 lol
@@commisaryarreck3974 have you tried 10.7 at all? 10.7 is my grind tier, since I mainly downtier against premium players.
Small mistakes turn into big ones as usual. Gaijin has done a million small ones.
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same thing is happening in crossout honestly, they struggle to do anything reasonable
@@countsudoku6305 well i love the people who complain about wt's economy... clearly they have never played crossout.
@@n1co2017 at least there is no repair cost, though on the other hand progress is possibly even slower than in wt
@@countsudoku6305in crossout even with premium progress is slower than in wt with no premium, and the game has like 0 depth, there are 5 meta builds and anything else just sucks. In wt with premium I was able to grind out a tree from 1st era all the way to 6th in 2 weeks of semi casual play(maybe 10 air RB games a day) in crossout I played for a month and got to 2 purple parts. Fuck that.
Whenever I read BR changes I'm like. "Ok what did they screw up this time." They have ruined several great lineups this way. I hate it that I can't use my HSTVL in 10.3 anymore
The BR changes as a whole suck. It's worse than them doing nothing at all. They "decompressed" the BRs that didn't need to be and ruined lineups. All they did was make big gaps in trees now. Gaijin is beyond incompetent and it's baffling how many people think these changes are good.
Especially since they didn't buff the gun and its ammo. Though its still fun its just that its no longer impossible for them to pen you from the front.
This community always cries about decompression and when there is finally some decompression everyone cries
@@her9498 because the “decompression” didn’t occur. Besides top tier ground, a bunch of the br increases make no sense. And instead of giving room for the 11.0 air vehicles that have been at that br forever they move them to 10.7 so 9.7 planes have to deal with shit they shouldn’t have to. 12.0 is not high enough for air rb
I love it that you can't use your HSTVL in 10.3 anymore
that KA-50 not only ate two rounds, it also put out the fire, killed you, and probably got a few more kills after
That heli eating two tank shots melted my brain
Yeah that was egregious. There isn't a helicopter in the world that can take 2 direct hits from a tank cannon and just go about its business.
LOL I once shot a heli right in the side and it just gave me ricochet undamaged
I had a little bird heli survive a 120mm direct hit. Although it was a dart so perhaps it just passed through.
@@mmclaurin8035 the sheer force of that impact would probably split the airframe into several chunks
@@mmclaurin8035 I mean from a devils advocate postion I guess it could have just completely over-penned but even then it should have done something.
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I think that removing the thermals would be a good choice here as Russia gave Sweden a T-80U and not a T-80UE-1 which is one of the variants that actually had thermals. This way gaijin can keep it at 10.7
@@PrivateMemo then I dont think youve ever tried playing russia top tier
10.7 and no thermals would be a little painful
@@haruka0002 T-80UM2 is still quite a good tank
The APS is nice though.
said that t80u shouldnt have thermals and ppl said i was full of ish. same thing with ariete and citv
Spookston: Why is my luck terrible with downtiers?
Also Spookston: I'm just gonna run right in
Proceeds to obtain weapon of mass destruction
Also the T-90A being 10.7 is interesting but I guess if the IPM1 stays at 10.7 then sure but T-90 gets 3BM60 and gen 2 thermals. Also hull down it’s pretty nasty.
The t-90 is useless on most maps due to 4km/h reverse and bad turret traverse speed
@@scifiordieBy that logic the panther D should also be useless
@@scifiordie skill issue.
I’d argue the IPM1 could handle 11.0 better then the T-90
@@HANGING_SILVER panther d at least isnt significantly less mobile than all other vehicles around it, doesnt have fucking awful gun depression, nonexistent survivability and a longer reload than other tanks at its BR
I have noticed on Russian tanks at top tier that if you hit the ERA first, you lose all spalling whatsoever. I know the anti-spall lining is a thing but I think that’s part of the reason why the ammo just doesn’t go off.
Nah, it’s cuz genius Russian tank crew soak the shells lining the autoloader with diesel, thus acting as an impromptu wet storage.
A marvel of the Soviet era!
If you look at the protection analysis, from what I see it doesn't matter if you hit ERA or not. With the spall/damage model what happens is the small compartments of the russian tanks eat the spall in a tight controlled area and doesn't reach crew/components. Compare that to an Abrams, and hitting it just about anywhere sends shrapnel in every direction, leaving no survivors at all.
@@TrepidDestiny This and the fact that Russian carroussels don't produce spalling😂 it's been proven in a datamine. At the absolute least, NATO mbts should get spall liners that act in a similar manner or they should make the carroussels spall!
@@TheTeehee11111 why would they do that when russia can rule top tier ground?
this is not a feature its a straight up intentional bug LOL
Gaijin doesn’t do “Small Mistake” Only game breaking “Mistakes”
Me when Gaijin
When gaijin
gaijin
Ka-50: eats 2x 125mm APFSDS rounds and at least half a dozen 7.62mm and 12.7mm rounds
Also Ka-50 : this is fine
Completely normal phenomenon for russian aviation. Few days ago I directly hit La-200 with HE on BKan (I was out of Proximity shells, yet, I have hit him). He damaged me, killed other guy and came back to airfield.
@@rafamarchewka5821 155mm HE, NO PROBLEM, why, because stalinium
You forgot the T-80UM2 which also sits at 10.7 with 3BM46 :D Sure, no thermals, but that's a good trade for the round imo.
Edit: Forgot to mention that it ofc has the DROZD APS, which is actually quite helpful imo.
Yeah i love that thing and yeah its true 10.7 gets a lot of downtiers
@@juhonurminen7538 the bad part about the constant full downtiers is the teammates
It’s almost like playing low tier with the um2. I just hold w and get like 7 kills with constant down tiers
@@scorpia-gaming It's an amazing machine, yeah. I'm glad i grinded it. And deep down I hope they forget that it should get moved up :P
Aps rarely saves me
the t80um2 is also 10.7 and its just insane...got a nuke and 10 kills without trying at all. sure no thermals but the 3bm46 is crazy at this br
Some tanks I think they should have not moved up, and in fact moved down in BR would be the Arietes. Now since pretty much all top teir moved up its situation hasn't changed much, but it's still very infuriating to have tanks that should be at least 11.0-10.7 at 11.7 and 11.3
They also apparently forgot about the M1A1 and IPM1 at 10.7, which have very good shells, especially the M1A1 with a Svinets 2 equivalent shell.
the m1a1s turret cheeks can get penned by any russia tanks within 2 br brackets its good where it is and i never get down tiers in it
@@jtl05 you mean M1 turret cheeks can be penned... not the M1A1... :)
@@Petkopanchov depends on the m1a1, base m1a1 is like butter, HC is equivalent to M1A2
@jtl05
I think you're confusing M1 Abrams and the M1A1. A1 has 800mm of composite plus RHA. The same as the M1A1 HC which is at 11.3
And even if it were true, the Type 90 has an ever weaker turret. Should it be 10.7 too?
Armor isn't the only thing at counts.
The M1A1 had excellent mobility, Turret traverse, reload and an excellent shell.
If all tanks at high tier were decompressed and moved up, why were the abrams spared?
@MediocreGamer Both the M1A1 and the M1A1 HC have the exact same armor in the turret, idk what you're talking about.
Gaijin trying not to bootlick swedish players challenge: impossible
and italy
You two smoking crack or something, and if so can I have some of it?
@@ivoryrick7734 dude Italy is the most fucked nation by far at top tier lol, nothing but nerfs occur to that nation, barely any new vehicles, and the top tier AA is a joke for what it faces now.
@@ivoryrick7734 how?
What? Gaijin has a vendetta against Sweden, you just suck at the game.
"Stop moving I want to shoot you" might be my new favorite Spookston quote.
I don't play top tier enough to have an answer on the BR changes, but I did notice this tank was uh...not moved lol.
Would love to see a video on the Super Pershing when time allows please. I've asked so many times lolol.
As someone who has been spading it for the past 2 months? You can play this T-80 at top tier and do just fine after getting the dart. Stupidly good armor. Definitely overlooked since im pretty sure there isn't many people playing this variant.
People don’t use smoke ammunition as much as they should. It’s a great way to throw people off
9/10 times I fire smoke, nothing happens, no smoke forms
@@TengertLanes maybe a rendering issue?
I miss the old days where WWII stayed WWII and the introduction to modern ammo against those vehicles wasn't a thing
It wasn't theyre only mistake this patch. They also forgot to move the british and italian tornados up when they moved the german tornado up
Unless I’m crazy, the only German tornado that got moved up was the 10.7 IDS.
Isn't the German one better or something?
@@cookiecraze1310 It was at 10.7 compared to 11.3 for the TT versions. No guides munitions but 12x 1000lb bombs and AIM-9Ls made it a pretty decent bomb truck as long as you didnt try to dogfight with it. Being at 10.7, you'd also get alot of downtiers so it wasnt as horrible as its TT counterparts which would get sucked up to 12.0 MM fighting 4th gen jets.
Are we back to the brain dead germans snorting massive amounts of copium? German TECH TREE tornado didn't go up, only the event one. In fact the tech tree ones should be going down with how trash they are but they aren't russian, so release and forget.
@@5577slayer5577 It's a decent bomb truck but you don't have any real standoff capability in it with the unguided bombs and you need to slow down to use the bombs, at fairly close range. Mind you with Pantsirs standoff really doesn't matter that much anymore. If you for some reason don't get anyone trying to murder you with a Pantsir or a jet then you can wipe out teams.
A rare video where Spookston plays Top Tier
This is one of those tanks where the dozer blade is really effective on some maps. In the El Alamein match if you entrenched on that hill you would've become a meme bunker and also gotten a couple extra degrees of depression. Also works on Maginot and some other big open maps.
Spookston I loved that only in battlefield bit, I really like your deadpan tone, makes the suffering more fun.
Gaijin gets away with it because theres no compition
You should try out the R3 T106, it is a really fun vehicle to play, just the ammo is a bit limiting at times, and you need to watch out for 50 cal fire with it.
At the very least the new cannon sounds are nice…I guess.
I just want to say. Thank you the CNC General soundtraks. love that game
What I love is how that title can be put on so many different videos
The T-80UM2 is also 10.7 and got a aktiv protektiv system
"Knowing me, my luck will be terrible and I will die, right away". Proceeds to nuke the map with one vehicle.
Nice video. I would love to see you play the M60A2 starship. It's really fun and I love the history of the practically obsolete tank.
Good video as always my friend. I would love to see a video on the ARL-44 in the French tree 👀
Hey Spook, you should play the Semovente 75/46 M43, it's a Jagdpanzer IV but with extra sauce and a pizza covering, underrated but good.
(Day 23)
I enjoyed this one too. Sherman 75s can’t pen you and has a great gun.
i know you already played it for a couple mins in your worst premium vid, but you should defo try the zut 37 again. its like a low tier puma with 90mm penetration belt fed cannon at br 2.7 its so overpowered
3:48 I laughed at this impression harder than I probably should have
Love your videos
Can you demonstrate how to play utilize the AMX-13 to the best of its ability?
Not to mention the char25t is going to 7.7 at the exact same BR as the object 906
They luckily didnt do that
@@eriktheos6022 oh thank god, didn’t realise it hadn’t actually gone through, still doesn’t help the fact that the AMX50s have gone up to 7.7, constsntly fighting stabilised 8.0 APFSDS firing vehicles
Bro that leviathan sound when the helicopter turned towards you was so perfect
Spookston I wasnt ready for the broken in half reference that made me choke on my soda lol.
2:40
"But the 2M is so OP it has so much pen with the missiles, so OP!!!!"
*My brother in christ you could reload your main gun before it even reached you*
>8.3 vehicle at 9.7
Community: "this is fine"
>4 funny rockets on that vehicle
Community: "OMG UNCOUNTERABLE UNPLAYABLE GAIJIN BIASED REEEE 😭😭"
I think you should try out the Russian tier 2 T80. I havent been playing long but it was a standout favorite when playing. But with the recent monthly assignment I've gone back to it and it's weird how good it is for a tier 2
The snail give’th and the snail take’th away
"Oh I think he sees me... OH! He's seeing god now"
I love your deadpan so much
The Turms at 10.0 is still pretty good. ngl. anyway. Good video
A t72 a in 10.0 hell no
@@nighthawk6755 it’s broken, any lower and it murders 8.7
@@robertwilliam3507 it rearly saw 8.7... so NO
@@Petkopanchov you couldnt play 8.7 because you always got uptiered due to TURMS spam... so YES
Although this is not a day of me asking for the t32e1 I ask for video or just the file for your ground and air rb keybinds
I don't think you want my keybinds, they're an absolute mess
@@Spookston Basically half the payer base at this point especially top tier so many keybinds and I'm not even playing top tier yet
@@hiruko2373 it is very painful using console
I’d love to see what Spookston makes of the premium Sho’t Kal Dalet in the British tech tree. There seems to be a fairly large split between people who think it just sucks versus people who think it murders everything.
it's just that for a split second that we see a fellow t80/t72 we think its automaticly friendly and fuck up and die
I just wish they'd make the base T-44 6.3 instead of 6.7, i don't think it'd be overpowered fighting 5.3 and it suffers so much in uptiers
85mm is dangerous but tiger 8,8 not that much (gaijin pressed by the wehracommunity probably)
Recently unlocked the A4E Early, I should have known that the grind to get those AIM-9B would be insane, grinding the APFSDS for those squadron tanks should also be painfull
The leopard 2ks for some reason recently have been eating shots like that for the past week and a half, that same thing has been happening to me
I was flabbergasted when that ka-50 ate two 125mm shells. If only tanks were that well protected.
2:08 it seems like there is a significant delay between when you leave the map boundaries and when the "return to battle" warning pops up.
Seems to take way longer to get back into bounds than the amount of time I spend driving near the edge of the map
I hope you play the M103 next! Love your vids!
0:14 Don’t forget the Brush Spooks,
Keeping your armor clean can sometimes save your life
3:49 you just let out your inner JR from the attitude era WWE there xd
This isnt the only time this has happened. few years ago i looked at the BRs of vehicles that are the same on several tech trees and found that some are higher in BR than others, most notably the various M4 Sherman Types shared between pretty much every nation.
these at times didnt have any differences apart from the BR they sat in.
The T80U imo at 11.3 also sits to high, 11.0 is fine for both
It isnt the only vehicle not moved up too, the t-90a, m1a1 and ipm1 are all also on their original br and have not been affected by both br changes
Spookston: reminds gaijin to nerf a tank I like: *panic*
Me: remembers that gaijin doesnt listen to their player base: *calm*
You should try the Italian cargo truck, aka Breda 501, but maybe bring it up to like 6.0 or something.
The random debris flying through the air in the middle made me think that Gaijin decided to simulate your gunners eye floaters or something.
1:35 he frickin could've loaded HE round but no,he's tryna bust a heli with an AP
You should try out the Type 69 with its stock apds-fs, the penetrator is actually made of steel and has at most 219mm`s of penetration I am sure you would have a good time :)
Could you please make more sweden vidoes maybe even review the full tech tree if possible
Back from vacation: YOU SHOULD PLAY THE FLARAKRAD
Third try of asking you to play the AUBL/74, would love to see it!
9:27 jolie démonstration de français mon cher monsieur Spookston !
As a french speaker (not a frenchman though), this made me smile 😁
10:32
-Oh TAM of the river, what is your wisdom?
-Germany suffers.
I like how you fired like 3 rounds before noticing you were on HE.
You should play the bt7a at 10.0 it’s fast maneuverable and small.
It’s aphebc can pen 80mm of armor enough for most tanks.
And can kill ifvs relatively easily.
2:47 "Put some smoke in his face" - Fury
That halo sniper sound brought flash backs....
Spookston, can you look at the Chieftan mk.3/5 and try to work out why they are at their respective battle ratings because I can't figure it out.
that knick of time nuke right there...
Your Intros are god-tier memes.
that ODST outro gets me in my feels
4:25 holy crap that whole sequence of the jet evading stingers is so cinematic. It almost reminds me of top gun maverick when all the F/A 18s are evading the SAM’s. The music is top notch too. Thanks for the great content Spookston, and keep it up.
When you making that warthunder drivers Ed video? That Dardo could really use it.
I like the idea of a Spookston plush, although, I will be concerned about having my house immediately CAS bombed in a comedic fashion afterward.
4:57 I feel cheated, I actually pog faced and everything. Smh, I will never recover from this bamboozle.
I'm glad I'm not alone in my obsessive love of the C&C Generals soundtrack. It works great for WarThunder!
Another example is both the regular land gladiator and the premium land gladiator in the British air tree are 0.3 apart
Where’s that huh sound effect from? Gets me every time
Got a question for you sdkfz 234/1 why can't it resupply ammo at caps? They moved it up to 2.0 but ammo is the issue
Got the Leclerc a couple of weeks back and finally got the APFSDS round for it.
Got the jump on a T-80 or some Russian MBT (I dunno which one their all effectively the same at that BR) and shot first into his side, flat on. Non pen.
Tried again, and again non pen.
Third time penned and effectively ghosted through his ammo.
I proceeded to get killed by a MIG-29
I haven’t bothered playing top tier since.
Man i would relly apriciate if you would play the Phanter A. Its one of my favorite tanks so please
I believe I did in my Germany video
@@Spookston ok sorry thanks then
Speaking of fune sweden tonks, the Ikv 91 has laser rangefinder and solid HEATFS but armor like it was manufactured by IKEA
strv 103c from sweden please i just cant play with that one and i am curious to see how you do...
the sweadish tech tree has to be one of my favorites as of about 2 months ago when I started it
Same. How far are you? I have like 50 days more of premium account and I doubt I can reach top tier until it runs out, I’m at rank V ( still have to buy all of them except for the SPAAs I don’t have yet ).
@Neverbegan124 I used the premium 7.3 strv with the rockets to grind up to the 7.3 ikv and the strv been playing alot of low teir though helping a friend that's new to the game, can't wait to get to 7.7 and 8.0+ tho
Yea, 125mm cannons do tons of damage compared to 120mms. Playing Chinese tanks I consistently one shot on tanks that normally take me 2 shots with nato 120s. Leo 2A4s get one shot consistently by my ztz, but with a Chally or other nato 120s I normally need to take 2-3 shots.
Spookston you should try the Charioteer, bad armor but a good gun, essentially a glass cannon.
Could you make a BR 8. something video? I would love to see some T54/55 in action.
spookston could you make a video on the black prince since you love slow tanks so much
can you play the american m10? it's really fun as it has the 76 at 3.3, but you won't set any speed records in it.
Hey @Spookston, yesterday i finished painfull grind of the Repear Factory event, and after getting A-7D i decided to sell it and get something suitable for me, Leopard 2AV. I was hoping you could make one explaining video how to play it and generaly say your opinion of the vehicle☺️
Have you tried the event chinese vehicle after the fixes they made lke 3-4 days ago, Spooks? Any difference?