If anything, Molay farming is quite good since she has a ramp up effect of NP Strength Up that lasts for 3 turns like Muramasa's and Tezcatlipoca's NP. With some extra supporting effort, her NP really does have potential to be really strong in the last wave.
Man, we REALLY need new Quick Supports. I don't understand why Lasagna insists on saturating the game with Arts Supports but the only thing Quick has is Skadi and Skadi Summer.
@@indexwell6546 a good quick sup. She can 6-slot with more arts servants than quick, using NP or just skills. With quick she is locked to only being a sup since there is no quick castoria with 30% aoe charge and good skills, and has a really limited pool of servants she allows to work. Just make castoria again, make her color buff quick and buff the gain to 50% Easy fix, now you can do double quick castoria for easy loop, or use QCastoria for a 2 aoe comp instead of the normal one.
I thought we were done with the days of 'Bad Quick Refund AoEs' Loopers, but it seems like somebody in Lasagna is looking after Dante's best interests and knee-capped her or decided Quick needed another punch to the gut.
i finnaly got ushi gozen i was not sure myself if i ever got her cause my luck getting avengers servant is really low since my first play in 2018. i got all the class but didn't get a single 1 class avenger, heck i dont even remember how many time i fail but here it is my first avenger servant in the palm of my hand. looks like there's still hope
I was really happy for raikou being the 5 star and kind of laughed at aria fans... Now i also hope for aria, not just for her release but for her to powercreep skadi, the real enemy was lasagna this whole time aria bros and ushi gozen bros we have to unite and COPE TOGHETER OUR COPE WILL SUMMON ARIA
Yall not seeing it guys watch Anni reveal the quick saviour Abe no seimei himself and you all cope as quick finally becomes of the card types of all time in all seriousness, how will Quick ever be an arts but less refund and damage? shit Buster took all of quicks stars too with how many star bombs they have lol idk how it will be saved...
Add some NP gain to the either Skadi's Quick boost. Boom, mostly fixed. It's asinine that Arts got a support with that before quick, when Arts already had better refund anyway.
To be fair, with SSkadi 30 stars/turn, Quick is more reliable with stars (SSkadi has star bombs too). The problem is Quick's lack of powerful absolute echelon servants, DPS with utilities and traits, and flexible battery. SSkadi is powerful, but she doesn't solve any recurring Quick weaknesses. Get most of the 30% charge servants to be able to do 2/2/x with Oberon, with some absolute units able to do 1/2/x, 2/1/x then Quick would be pretty comparable to Art, minus the utilities, diversity and reliability, bonus the damage, stars and crit.
Her s2 should have gone full 50% quick up instead of split with buster. That buster buff is useless, she only has 1 buster card and that exact skill also ask her to keep using quick card for stackable crits, she is just weird. Also lack of survival kit and no np gain buff, she is really just flex servant for cdamage at this point
Why are they still holding back on Quick Servants. They already struggle enough as it is with their card type. Giving good refund capabilities is not going to break the game
Lasengle probably traumatized when they realized that they made Sokitan and Charlie a better looper than Muramasa. However, yeah, her kits is disappointing, kinda hope she can be at least a semi support like Jiang Ziya which is actually quite stand out.
Because they don’t want to give quick cards enough damage to overcome buster cards and neither good refund to replace arts. They don’t know what to do with quick cards in my opinion and it’s just there like the middle brother. What I can see is that they are trying to make a mix between buster and arts rather than giving quick cards his own nice because aside of making stars to have better chances of critical attacks and making some np and skills unavailable without the proper amount of stars there’s nothing else to do with them. An idea could be using the stars as a payment to unlock certain effects on skills, exactly the same thing they have being doing already but in Kukulkan way where she “pays” with them for extra effects but made it for way more servants.
@@shirayomi yeah but it's really unusual to see quick loopers managed to smoke arts looper considering arts have the upper hand by having better card for refund and support with strong np gain buff
I'm actually surprised they're still holding back after what other broken servants they've released except they're mostly buster or some arts. They really want to make quick to be dead and be forgotten huh
@@coire188 well he's also not super good at looping, his saving grace is in multicore setup. I also don't really see her being used in CQ as she lack some pierce invul or ignore defense or buff removal resistance, or even some hard defense
@@xNayai came to the comments just to say the same thing. The 3rd skill has a 30% NP strength buff crit star bomb and absorb so i always save it for the last turn to really squeeze out big damage
@@Founder_of_Morgans_Fanclub You mean top 2, Rikyu both does less damage and less refund. Even then, Caren’s Top 1 is dependent on whether or not you prefer more refund or more damage. Cause in terms of damage, he’s still Top 1.
@@skateboardmd9163 Dantes hits harder than Rikyu only on the third wave, she outdamages handily in w1-2 and she has a SE mod unlike Dantes, as well as some decent multicore utility
30% np dmg up, 20% charge aoe, 30% arts target. Since she has 30% self charge, 20% aoe and 20% from append she gets to use NP with only Castoria's aoe charge. then gives arts/atk and np dmg from what I saw, but you need to waste time with the animation. Ok servant, better than xu fu way worse than a servant like gil caster.
Oh this is bad. Her skills is focused on Critical Damage, but her area NP and skill set with no survivability are for farming. Quick NP servant with 0.55 base NP gain rate with only 30 NP gain boost (from her 2nd skill Quick boost) and only 5-hit NP is NOT good.
not really versatile either :/ , as of right now we are desperately waiting for a quick support that can make her strong. She has all the offensive buffs in the world, but lacks defensive kits. What she needs the most right now is some new quick support that can give her shield or evades. OG skadi doesn't do her much justice. A majority of the players cares more about her survivability than farming potential.
@@watashielshaeddo5454 I mean, Osakabehime? While I understand she isn't the best option, people seriously underestimate her potential outside of solo memes. Def Up, is really solid. MaxHP up is equivalent of heal, in some situations even better. Buff removal for 1 enemy, AOE crit. She's a good option for support role, but somehow people _completely_ oversee her. Not 10/10 material, but the best currently available option, arguably 8/10. Edit: Yeah, I know Gozen's problems. That why I don't call her strong. As for farming, I wrote in such way more for the memes. Or the fact that if servant can't grail loop, Xnaya is uncapable of using it.
Me yesterday: worried she would break the DPS meta. Me now: well, are they going to give her an NP buff to raise her NP gen rate and damage soon because otherwise Dantes is better as well as many other quick AoE servants they have released in the past couple of years.
To be fair, she's not designed for looping but rather as an insane cq and boss killer, like her kits is geared towards that, her being an AoE is just a bonus She's relatively good in the end and deliver well, but yeah if you want to quick loop better just grab Dantes or Rikyuu
If you don‘t flood her with at least 30-40 crit stars she won‘t get much out of crits though. Keep in mind she‘s an avenger and aside from 1 turn of star gather she has nothing to feed her the stars for the potentially high crit dmg...and with only 1 buster card she isn‘t too great with ruler skadi either.
If only the game had more than 1 CQ you can u per month you can use commands and no cubes to also skip the bosses. 6-slot without plug is the minimum for a looper, she is saved by the 50% charge.
on the one hand I am a little bit glad she didn't powercreep my man Dantes, on the other hand she is just awful. guess devs are scared to give us aoe quick that is at least on par with regular buster and arts, not even talking about monsters like S. Ibuki, Arjuna, Melusine and so on
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"Stand proud, Ushi Gozen. You're strong"
-Dantes probably
Nothing stopped me from using Molay to farm and nothing will stop me from using her to farm 😤😤😤
LET'S GO, MOLAY BROS.
alter ego bois : 💀💀
If anything, Molay farming is quite good since she has a ramp up effect of NP Strength Up that lasts for 3 turns like Muramasa's and Tezcatlipoca's NP.
With some extra supporting effort, her NP really does have potential to be really strong in the last wave.
Based .
We molay lovers will rise 🗣️🗣️
Man, we REALLY need new Quick Supports. I don't understand why Lasagna insists on saturating the game with Arts Supports but the only thing Quick has is Skadi and Skadi Summer.
Okki has been forgotten by master.
@@Shuuchi0676she isn't a proper one, even a ganesha is probably a better arts sup than osakabehime is a quick one.
You already got summer skadi what else you want?
@@indexwell6546 a good quick sup.
She can 6-slot with more arts servants than quick, using NP or just skills.
With quick she is locked to only being a sup since there is no quick castoria with 30% aoe charge and good skills, and has a really limited pool of servants she allows to work.
Just make castoria again, make her color buff quick and buff the gain to 50%
Easy fix, now you can do double quick castoria for easy loop, or use QCastoria for a 2 aoe comp instead of the normal one.
@@Shuuchi0676You either need a Max Scope CE or a normal Scope CE with Append to use those part of her kit.
Dantes Supremacy, everyone 😎
Her sprite makes her look so tall(Yes I know she's not the only one).
In SR she was so tiny that even Takeru dwarves her.
Classic FGO
Spartacus is above 180cm yet his sprite is not so tall above da vinci rider
ushi gozen is only 152cm tall.
shes realy short but i guess so is shuten.
I thought we were done with the days of 'Bad Quick Refund AoEs' Loopers, but it seems like somebody in Lasagna is looking after Dante's best interests and knee-capped her or decided Quick needed another punch to the gut.
Avenger is best class for her but I think Rider could have help her more 😅
At least she would be ok against casters, which so happen to refund the most NP to help mitigate her crappy refund
i finnaly got ushi gozen i was not sure myself if i ever got her cause my luck getting avengers servant is really low since my first play in 2018. i got all the class but didn't get a single 1 class avenger, heck i dont even remember how many time i fail but here it is my first avenger servant in the palm of my hand. looks like there's still hope
One day I’ll be able to have at least one if the skadi variants
Dantes stonks are still good boys.
With how the things will be going, I can see the other variant of Dantes (if it's true) saving quick himself lmao
I was really happy for raikou being the 5 star and kind of laughed at aria fans... Now i also hope for aria, not just for her release but for her to powercreep skadi, the real enemy was lasagna this whole time aria bros and ushi gozen bros we have to unite and COPE TOGHETER OUR COPE WILL SUMMON ARIA
Yall not seeing it guys watch Anni reveal the quick saviour Abe no seimei himself and you all cope as quick finally becomes of the card types of all time
in all seriousness, how will Quick ever be an arts but less refund and damage? shit Buster took all of quicks stars too with how many star bombs they have lol idk how it will be saved...
Add some NP gain to the either Skadi's Quick boost. Boom, mostly fixed. It's asinine that Arts got a support with that before quick, when Arts already had better refund anyway.
To be fair, with SSkadi 30 stars/turn, Quick is more reliable with stars (SSkadi has star bombs too). The problem is Quick's lack of powerful absolute echelon servants, DPS with utilities and traits, and flexible battery. SSkadi is powerful, but she doesn't solve any recurring Quick weaknesses. Get most of the 30% charge servants to be able to do 2/2/x with Oberon, with some absolute units able to do 1/2/x, 2/1/x then Quick would be pretty comparable to Art, minus the utilities, diversity and reliability, bonus the damage, stars and crit.
Dantes: I'm still strongest Avenger! KUHAHAHAHA
Quick avenger
@@clytievangogh2421 Kagekiyo?
Her s2 should have gone full 50% quick up instead of split with buster. That buster buff is useless, she only has 1 buster card and that exact skill also ask her to keep using quick card for stackable crits, she is just weird. Also lack of survival kit and no np gain buff, she is really just flex servant for cdamage at this point
>only one Buster card
>has a Buster-related skill
sounds like Saber Astolfo lol
She has a buster buff to compliment with her master’s kit. Yui buffs atk and NP dmg to those with a quick and buster up active.
When Mommy was in her edge phase.
Aria will come and save Quick. Trust me, bro. She's coming!
She'll have like a 50% quick up and 50% np gain for 3 turns 😂
COPIUM PepeHands
Man, 3 Skadis and still a bad NP refund…
Tested her against Berserker, never more than 40 % refund
Don't use quick servants on Berserker
Bro tryna loop berserk node im dead
Why are they still holding back on Quick Servants. They already struggle enough as it is with their card type.
Giving good refund capabilities is not going to break the game
Lasengle probably traumatized when they realized that they made Sokitan and Charlie a better looper than Muramasa. However, yeah, her kits is disappointing, kinda hope she can be at least a semi support like Jiang Ziya which is actually quite stand out.
@@Mustang1730 Not like Muramasa was a good looper anyways
Because they don’t want to give quick cards enough damage to overcome buster cards and neither good refund to replace arts. They don’t know what to do with quick cards in my opinion and it’s just there like the middle brother.
What I can see is that they are trying to make a mix between buster and arts rather than giving quick cards his own nice because aside of making stars to have better chances of critical attacks and making some np and skills unavailable without the proper amount of stars there’s nothing else to do with them.
An idea could be using the stars as a payment to unlock certain effects on skills, exactly the same thing they have being doing already but in Kukulkan way where she “pays” with them for extra effects but made it for way more servants.
@@shirayomi yeah but it's really unusual to see quick loopers managed to smoke arts looper considering arts have the upper hand by having better card for refund and support with strong np gain buff
We really a support that can do something about those over flowing stars, like what's the points of 99 stars when 50% of those are useless?
You mean 100% of those?
Its not like she is using facecards
finally a 50% battery quick servant, but her refund is awful, just why LSG
It’s so weird how they design servants
I'm actually surprised they're still holding back after what other broken servants they've released except they're mostly buster or some arts. They really want to make quick to be dead and be forgotten huh
Well on the bright side. Her having a 50% battery means she can brute force clear her way in farming nodes that has a singular enemy in a wave.
Tai Wong feels forgotten right now
@@coire188 well he's also not super good at looping, his saving grace is in multicore setup.
I also don't really see her being used in CQ as she lack some pierce invul or ignore defense or buff removal resistance, or even some hard defense
This is a set up for next support
A curiosity, isn't it better to use her third skill on the last wave since its effects only lasts for one turn?
I just assumed it would last 3 turns so that's why I pressed it there...
But yea, that's what you should do.
@@xNayai came to the comments just to say the same thing. The 3rd skill has a 30% NP strength buff crit star bomb and absorb so i always save it for the last turn to really squeeze out big damage
she can only barely loopable with rider so i guess Dantes'll still be the best Quick looper then
He's top3, don't forget about Caren and Sen no Rikyu
You mean Rikyu
@@Founder_of_Morgans_Fanclub You mean top 2, Rikyu both does less damage and less refund.
Even then, Caren’s Top 1 is dependent on whether or not you prefer more refund or more damage.
Cause in terms of damage, he’s still Top 1.
@@skateboardmd9163 Dantes hits harder than Rikyu only on the third wave, she outdamages handily in w1-2 and she has a SE mod unlike Dantes, as well as some decent multicore utility
Any demo of the caster? Got questions about her kit
30% np dmg up, 20% charge aoe, 30% arts target.
Since she has 30% self charge, 20% aoe and 20% from append she gets to use NP with only Castoria's aoe charge.
then gives arts/atk and np dmg from what I saw, but you need to waste time with the animation.
Ok servant, better than xu fu way worse than a servant like gil caster.
Oh this is bad. Her skills is focused on Critical Damage, but her area NP and skill set with no survivability are for farming. Quick NP servant with 0.55 base NP gain rate with only 30 NP gain boost (from her 2nd skill Quick boost) and only 5-hit NP is NOT good.
Bearly refunds 50% on a rider node? Yeah she def won't be effective in assassin or berserker nodes at all
Ok i just noticed she's NP1, she might require NP3+ like other farmers to be effective
@@notrealsagano, her refund is bad compare to Dante.( Maybe because have battery 😌😌😌)
@@notrealsagahave her at np2. Refund is bad
@@uzumakiyuuki3454well that's disappointing
@@notrealsaga and i just see Dante video looping, he do more dmg than ushi gozen.😅😅😅,.
People when Crit focused unit can't farm: ARRRGGHHHH, I CAN'T USE HER.
Anyway, is she strong? No, but she's good and being versatile is ALWAYS good.
not really versatile either :/ , as of right now we are desperately waiting for a quick support that can make her strong. She has all the offensive buffs in the world, but lacks defensive kits. What she needs the most right now is some new quick support that can give her shield or evades. OG skadi doesn't do her much justice. A majority of the players cares more about her survivability than farming potential.
@@watashielshaeddo5454 I mean, Osakabehime?
While I understand she isn't the best option, people seriously underestimate her potential outside of solo memes.
Def Up, is really solid. MaxHP up is equivalent of heal, in some situations even better. Buff removal for 1 enemy, AOE crit.
She's a good option for support role, but somehow people _completely_ oversee her.
Not 10/10 material, but the best currently available option, arguably 8/10.
Edit: Yeah, I know Gozen's problems. That why I don't call her strong.
As for farming, I wrote in such way more for the memes. Or the fact that if servant can't grail loop, Xnaya is uncapable of using it.
Me yesterday: worried she would break the DPS meta. Me now: well, are they going to give her an NP buff to raise her NP gen rate and damage soon because otherwise Dantes is better as well as many other quick AoE servants they have released in the past couple of years.
But Ushi has Anti Earth and Anti Demonic
the anti earth is only against servants though....
@@ebering4.039 the one on NP is universal
Not gonna happen
Also Ushi is a way better Quick critter than looper
There are more things in this game than looping
i wanted to get yui but got np2 ushi....anyways i don't have dantes so this will have to do
I love me some Mama Loop!!
To be fair, she's not designed for looping but rather as an insane cq and boss killer, like her kits is geared towards that, her being an AoE is just a bonus
She's relatively good in the end and deliver well, but yeah if you want to quick loop better just grab Dantes or Rikyuu
If you don‘t flood her with at least 30-40 crit stars she won‘t get much out of crits though. Keep in mind she‘s an avenger and aside from 1 turn of star gather she has nothing to feed her the stars for the potentially high crit dmg...and with only 1 buster card she isn‘t too great with ruler skadi either.
If only the game had more than 1 CQ you can u per month you can use commands and no cubes to also skip the bosses.
6-slot without plug is the minimum for a looper, she is saved by the 50% charge.
@@ebering4.039 That's why she had that 4 quick cards, so i feel the stars wouldn't be that much of problem, at least from what i think
She has no defensive skills, you have to kill the CQ quick no pun intended, or you're going to need someone to help her survive
@@omcritzy you can use the free full team revive to get more survivability
Np5??
Haruka Tomatsu
Raikou to Ushi Gozen really is some Kashimo evolution. From feared god of thunder to a fraud farmer.
What about using a np gain up ce? Her damage looks good so she might not need the black grail buff.
Her damage is "very good" vs Earth enemies (which Dragons are) and mediorce otherwise.
You can definitely use Scope if against Earth enemies though.
Quick will never be good, uh?
Man, her pink hair form looks awesome but I don't care about aoe quick rip
Oh wow, Idol Ecchan got some competition
So...
She's quick? No wonder i can't get her
I was cursed by quick servants
on the one hand I am a little bit glad she didn't powercreep my man Dantes, on the other hand she is just awful. guess devs are scared to give us aoe quick that is at least on par with regular buster and arts, not even talking about monsters like S. Ibuki, Arjuna, Melusine and so on
Truly shows why quick sucks.