I had 39 REC Panels installed with REC400AA Pure installed with 2 Tesla PowerWall 3 batteries. The inversion is done in the battery pack. I do have panels on the North side of my house, however I have a really low pitch on my roof and I have zero obstructions. I get sun all day. I have had days where I have generated as much as 64 kilowatts of energy in a day. But now in the fall approaching winter I am seeing about 45 kilowatts generated. This is if I have sun all day. I have 27 kilowatts of storage, so when we have sunny days. I have been pleased so far, and I am in NC close to the Helene devastation. My setup endured the very high winds and we never lost power
Trina Solar is giving good feedbacks and really good performance, I swapped 430W solar panels and added their 655W panels in the same space as the old ones with the same price per watt I paid 4 years ago, I am having extra 200W ish more with less space and they are bifacials!
damn! 655 watts? Didn't even know panels are made that high. Killer. I have limited space and was looking for highest power I could get in a panel... I'll only be able to have 4-5 panels. I have to look into these.
30 south facing roof mounted QTron 420 black sitting on a black standing seam metal roof. Mounted with Unirac system. Looks gorgeous! Paired with Enphase IQ8-A microinvertors. Day 4 of operation-nothing to report but vibes.
System installed in early Feb. PTO Feb 28. 34 REC 405AA. So far so good. System has out-performed the contractor's estimate by a considerable margin in March and April. For May, I'm still trending above his estimate, despite weather having been less than wonderful. I think the discrepancy between actual and estimate lies in the shading issues, which aren't as bad as the contractor's model predicted (and he even did a drone scan).
@@SolarSurge but that’s relative then, don’t you think? I understand that you may be saying “top 5” from your frame of reference but if we’re thinking about top 5 for the consumer itself, Maxeon deserves to be top 2.
I'm in New Zealand and got the Qcell Q.tron BLK M-G2 panels (M-G2.4+ 425w made in China), had them installed in February. Have 20 panels roof mounted in 2 strings, 10 facing NE and 10 facing NW (remember Southern hemisphere), connected to a 6kW Fronius GEN24 inverter. I'm impressed how easily the 8.5kW of panels reaches the 6kW inverter capacity, it reaches it by mid morning on a fine day and even with a layer of high cloud it still easily gets there.....I probably should have installed a larger inverter but I'm export limited to 5kW and with the panels on 2 different facing strings, I thought I wouldn't get that much clipping. It's only now, a month from the shortest day, that it barely gets to 6kW. Ironically, if there are a few clouds around to add a diffuse light source, it still reaches 6kW, and I live at 45 degrees South.
@@QE007 I might in the future. Being AC coupled, the Tesla powerwall 2 seem like a good option, but the price is hard to justify as it will never pay for itself. With the Fronius inverter, it has a seperate circuit to supply electricity during an outage, so it doesn't require a grid forming battery system to work.
@@degeneral2583 I probably can't be of much help as the panels were sourced by a local installer. My understanding is Qcells makes panels in a few countries, including China. They then ship them to distribution centers, so it really depends on where you live as to which panels are locally available.
I have a recently installed Sunpower solar system using Sunpower monitoring system. Should I pay to convert to the Enphase monitoring system or are there other options?
At some point, SunPower will stop maintaining their monitoring software. I would recommend you reach out to Enphase tech support and see how you can switch to direct Enphase monitoring.
@@KB3M , I empathize, because I have had many clients whose smaller roof planes would have accommodated smaller panels but not the larger form factor found in most 400-watt series panels. But making smaller panels would make the panels much more than just 10-20% overall, because both manufacturing and shipping costs would rise. It would cause an increase in larger panel pricing, too, if the manufacturer has to re-tool to make both small and large form factor production runs. Installation costs would also rise as installers must deal with more panels to mount in more and varied locations/patterns. It is all about economies of scale, and most roofs can still host the 400-watt size module.
How much weight do you put into where a panel is produced? The REC is in produced Singapore, where some of those others are built in the US. Is this something I should care about in terms of quality, availability, and support?
My number one concern is impact resistance by such as hail, then efficiency in heat, slow degrade, and last is over 20% efficiency. Does anyone know a list to compare specs, price?
Hi, I am from India, looking good and economical solar panel required 4-5 mw . Our land temperature between 25-45 degree Celsius. Can I get your suggestions.
Just had the 410s installed this week - outstanding value. Wished i would have gotten the bigger microinverters though but the 8+'s will be fine. They clip out at about 285W...
Nice to know , I went with the IQ8-M I’ll see where they clip out at by end of June. I’ve seen here in so cal you get about 315watts with M’s with the 410bg panels
Good presentation, thanks. However, "Bad sound makes good video look bad." In a room with hard surfaces and bad acoustics please get the microphone as close to your mouth as possible. Get a headset microphone and position the element at the corner of your mouth.
Put in 10Kw of Maxeon panels through Renova in SoCal, on a SantaFe style flat roof, so you don't see them. Waiting for battery prices to come down. Maxeon have super durable impact resistant cells.
SunPower and Maxeon are separate companies as of 2021. Sunpower does sales and installation. Maxeon is purely a manufacturing company. SunPower went bankrupt but Maxeon is still in business.
Seriously? Prices vary by job scope and location. You can be sure that a DIY supplier in South Dakota will quote a lower cost per panel than an full service solar contractor in California's San Francisco Bay Area.
If you are willing to do the "warranty and service risk on your won"??? WTF??? This is pure insanity! Why would anyone be looking for a good, cheap, low price solar panel??? To DIY??? I mean, what is wrong with this guy! He should be saying, no, no, don't you EVER be looking for something like this. And don't you EVER think of a DIY. Not ever!
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I had 39 REC Panels installed with REC400AA Pure installed with 2 Tesla PowerWall 3 batteries. The inversion is done in the battery pack. I do have panels on the North side of my house, however I have a really low pitch on my roof and I have zero obstructions. I get sun all day. I have had days where I have generated as much as 64 kilowatts of energy in a day. But now in the fall approaching winter I am seeing about 45 kilowatts generated. This is if I have sun all day. I have 27 kilowatts of storage, so when we have sunny days. I have been pleased so far, and I am in NC close to the Helene devastation. My setup endured the very high winds and we never lost power
Trina Solar is giving good feedbacks and really good performance, I swapped 430W solar panels and added their 655W panels in the same space as the old ones with the same price per watt I paid 4 years ago, I am having extra 200W ish more with less space and they are bifacials!
damn! 655 watts? Didn't even know panels are made that high. Killer. I have limited space and was looking for highest power I could get in a panel... I'll only be able to have 4-5 panels. I have to look into these.
Someone should make triangle panels to fit all of the area on the roof.
Tesla does
We can make all kinds of solar panels to fit customers' requirements.
30 south facing roof mounted QTron 420 black sitting on a black standing seam metal roof. Mounted with Unirac system.
Looks gorgeous!
Paired with Enphase IQ8-A microinvertors.
Day 4 of operation-nothing to report but vibes.
System installed in early Feb. PTO Feb 28. 34 REC 405AA. So far so good. System has out-performed the contractor's estimate by a considerable margin in March and April. For May, I'm still trending above his estimate, despite weather having been less than wonderful. I think the discrepancy between actual and estimate lies in the shading issues, which aren't as bad as the contractor's model predicted (and he even did a drone scan).
Great channel long time watcher first time posting very informative.
M-G2+ Owner here---- the panels beat the crap out of everything on the market.
If ur doing solar on ur roof get ur roof reshingled first or id prob get a steel roof
Once panels r on new roof prices explode
Great presentation
Maxeon warranty also includes labor, they also have great looking all black panels.
Any idea what will happen with them with sunpower seemingly going under?
Maxeon at #4 is wild
I imagine that if Maxeon started giving you their panels at a competitive lower PPW, it'd be higher on the list!!
Absolutely. The only reason it’s ranked lower is because of the high price tag. The technology is excellent.
@@SolarSurge but that’s relative then, don’t you think? I understand that you may be saying “top 5” from your frame of reference but if we’re thinking about top 5 for the consumer itself, Maxeon deserves to be top 2.
@@SolarSurge I am a big fan of SunPower, Just wish they were more cost competitive, I used 64 of their flexible panels and they held up very well.
I'm in New Zealand and got the Qcell Q.tron BLK M-G2 panels (M-G2.4+ 425w made in China), had them installed in February. Have 20 panels roof mounted in 2 strings, 10 facing NE and 10 facing NW (remember Southern hemisphere), connected to a 6kW Fronius GEN24 inverter.
I'm impressed how easily the 8.5kW of panels reaches the 6kW inverter capacity, it reaches it by mid morning on a fine day and even with a layer of high cloud it still easily gets there.....I probably should have installed a larger inverter but I'm export limited to 5kW and with the panels on 2 different facing strings, I thought I wouldn't get that much clipping. It's only now, a month from the shortest day, that it barely gets to 6kW. Ironically, if there are a few clouds around to add a diffuse light source, it still reaches 6kW, and I live at 45 degrees South.
You gonna get a battery?
@@QE007 I might in the future. Being AC coupled, the Tesla powerwall 2 seem like a good option, but the price is hard to justify as it will never pay for itself. With the Fronius inverter, it has a seperate circuit to supply electricity during an outage, so it doesn't require a grid forming battery system to work.
@@Pete856 that’s a cool feature other companies should learn
Hi, pls I wanna know how you get the panels from china? I’m trying to reach out and buy some
I will appreciate any help you can provide. Thank you
@@degeneral2583 I probably can't be of much help as the panels were sourced by a local installer. My understanding is Qcells makes panels in a few countries, including China. They then ship them to distribution centers, so it really depends on where you live as to which panels are locally available.
Jinko 425W is pretty good and all black. 1 percent degradation loss in the first year, then .4 every year after
I have a recently installed Sunpower solar system using Sunpower monitoring system. Should I pay to convert to the Enphase monitoring system or are there other options?
At some point, SunPower will stop maintaining their monitoring software. I would recommend you reach out to Enphase tech support and see how you can switch to direct Enphase monitoring.
Why don’t panel manufacturers make quarter or half size panels to better fill in your roof even if you had to join them together?
It could be because panels manufacturing hits economy of scale at a certain size
@@QE007 Yes but many would gladly pay extra to add another 10-20% to their roof.
@@KB3M , I empathize, because I have had many clients whose smaller roof planes would have accommodated smaller panels but not the larger form factor found in most 400-watt series panels. But making smaller panels would make the panels much more than just 10-20% overall, because both manufacturing and shipping costs would rise. It would cause an increase in larger panel pricing, too, if the manufacturer has to re-tool to make both small and large form factor production runs. Installation costs would also rise as installers must deal with more panels to mount in more and varied locations/patterns. It is all about economies of scale, and most roofs can still host the 400-watt size module.
How much weight do you put into where a panel is produced? The REC is in produced Singapore, where some of those others are built in the US. Is this something I should care about in terms of quality, availability, and support?
I have Renogy 450 Watt 48 panels with 38 panels of Aptos 370 Watt panels from the original installer. Making more power to pay the minimum power cost.
Sounds good. Aptos is a good band also, but the efficiency is not as high. IF you have a large roof then it's not an issue.
My number one concern is impact resistance by such as hail, then efficiency in heat, slow degrade, and last is over 20% efficiency. Does anyone know a list to compare specs, price?
Where can you buy REC panels?
who would you recommend for a solar company in ventura county ca.
Thank you for the nice information and presented so clearly.
I have the Q CELLS Q.PEAK DUO BLK ML-G10+ 400 . They look and perform great. I am very happy with them
Those are good panels also. Very popular and a great overall value.
Great information!
i need help for 11kw solar financing and best advice for getting solar in california
Hi,
I am from India, looking good and economical solar panel required 4-5 mw .
Our land temperature between 25-45 degree Celsius.
Can I get your suggestions.
Love you know your thoughts on Aiko?
I don't have any experience with that brand.
What about the Aptos 440?
My parents have those, they used to be top 5
What if I want a ground mount is this list still the same?
I would just go with the Jinko for a ground mount system. It’ll give you the best overall value.
Nice video Thank you! What panels do you recommend for DIY?
I’ll be getting the silfab 420 bg elite I’ll give you feedback in a few months
Just had the 410s installed this week - outstanding value. Wished i would have gotten the bigger microinverters though but the 8+'s will be fine. They clip out at about 285W...
Nice to know , I went with the IQ8-M I’ll see where they clip out at by end of June. I’ve seen here in so cal you get about 315watts with M’s with the 410bg panels
Love my silfab 410s
Just got 37 REC 410AA's for $0.30/watt.
JA Solar, 405's Great price and they look and work great!
24 VSUN 370 Black. 63kwh on cool sunny days
Great, thanks!
Joe, Well done. If I may ask, why do you prioritize more storage than more panels?
He said buy lower cost per watt panels and spend the savings on more storage.
QCELLS - Made in the USA? Or assembled in the USA? There is a difference is there not?
Maters for the 10% federal made in USA rebate
Thanks!
Good presentation, thanks. However, "Bad sound makes good video look bad." In a room with hard surfaces and bad acoustics please get the microphone as close to your mouth as possible. Get a headset microphone and position the element at the corner of your mouth.
Why didn’t you compare Silfab 420 elite panel? Higher wattage and efficiency.
LG 330 all black
Where is Meyer Burger?
How about bifacial?
Never seen these names in Tier One listing... just Jinko & Maxeon?
Put in 10Kw of Maxeon panels through Renova in SoCal, on a SantaFe style flat roof, so you don't see them. Waiting for battery prices to come down. Maxeon have super durable impact resistant cells.
Brother you are living at last century…. Now the best is longi bc technology.
No bifacial leaves me questioning reliability of review.
No longi?
Does anyone know of an installer in the Toronto area that installs REC or similar panels?
yes
will LG ever come back to the solar panel market?????????
outdated ...AIKO IS FAR BETTER ....
SUnpower going out of business doesnt affect your ratings?
SunPower and Maxeon are separate companies as of 2021. Sunpower does sales and installation. Maxeon is purely a manufacturing company. SunPower went bankrupt but Maxeon is still in business.
@@SolarSurge So if get SunPower branded panels from an independent installer Maxeon will back up the warranty?
Trina is the best
Tesla? No…?
Thank God for China!
panel in china are better and thats a fact
LONGI JINKO TRINA etc
Which the best?
Most African are using Jinko
Not giving a price is dumb and makes the video not worth watching past the the first 2m37s
Seriously? Prices vary by job scope and location. You can be sure that a DIY supplier in South Dakota will quote a lower cost per panel than an full service solar contractor in California's San Francisco Bay Area.
Yep I just bought 30 390watt black anodized Canadian Solar panels for $112 apiece delivered to my garage.
@@mthomaslauer The general price of the panel does not vary much.
Give us a link to your video with the prices please.......
If you are willing to do the "warranty and service risk on your won"??? WTF??? This is pure insanity! Why would anyone be looking for a good, cheap, low price solar panel??? To DIY??? I mean, what is wrong with this guy! He should be saying, no, no, don't you EVER be looking for something like this. And don't you EVER think of a DIY. Not ever!
Thanks