Optimum Polymer Technologies Detailing Training Seminar: Episode 1
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- I was fortunate enough to be invited to attend OPT's bi-annual training with Yvan Lacroix. In the first episode we learn about Optimum No Rinse and some a typical washing techniques.
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Need more episodes Matt......I would disagree on the entertainment factor here. This is the kind of stuff I personally love watching. Keep em coming.
30 mins just wasn't enough, left me wanting to learn more. With all the other bull crap on RUclips, at least you learn something on this channel
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The difference is Matt goes to people with decades of experience and try’s to ignore all that bullshit on Internet forums. There are some good nuggets of info online but there comes a point where you need to step away from the computer and into reality
With ONR you can use a wire brush and it won't hurt anything
Ha, ha...
the comment about the brush.. haha hard to buy that one
Josh Gorman ahhhhh, you missed the sarcasm
Haha just watched this back!
Yvan wants to sell his own product. That's it guys. I don't Say 100% useless but easy to understand...
Optimum No Rinse : *how to clean the clean car*... Joke..
Don't forget there is also a $500 product credit included with the course!
What course?!
@@w.a.r.autospa8884 the class
The chemistry and science behind this brand is beautiful.
Hey i recognize your picture from the facebook lol
Vincent Valentine That's me!
@@vincentvalentine9417 😂😂😂😂
Awesome information here. I was listening to Jimbos podcast about how many professional detailers are missing out because of what is mainstream on the internet (like no rinse soaps and rotaries) good to know the info about ONR because I use it daily for my clients.
I just opti gloss coated my car and it is hands down the best car product i have used to date. They make SO many awesome products it's hard to look past all of their options
I love the beard man's voice!
so much that contradicts what everyone else says! brushes, sponges, no foam, and barely any product. very very interesting.
Trc4181 I'm down with the Big Red Sponge, but I wouldn't let them use the brush on my paint when we washed my car the next day.
Ive been a long time fan of optimum products.... glad to see them getting some recognition on the channel.
Great to see you getting into Optimum products. Also, the motley crew that was there with you should be grateful for you being there asking detailed questions about everything. Great vid.
I use then ONR wash and wax (green) and that stuff is great. I love that I can use it all over the car and I was able to go 8 months without using a traditional wash method and I only did that to do a strip wash on the car.
ONR didn't kill my suds! My GT500 was quite dirty so I added 1oz ONR to my wash bucket with 2oz Adams & about 1oz Meguiars gold class. didn't kill the suds and the results were awesome!
Sinister.Shelby Suds are there for marketing purposes, they have no other meaning.
finally the Matty has come back to youtube!
Whole different side of detailing. A little old school. Keep up the videos, very interesting stuff.
That was one of the fastest half hours ever....on to episode 2!!! Maybe that class would be worth it.
This just turns everything I am used to doing on it's head. No rinsing, no suds, no wash mitt, razor blades on the paint, one product to wash every surface. Where is the fun in that lol. Clearly I would need to go to product purchasing rehab before I could adopt this method.
I think everything has it's place. I love learning new perspective and then seeing where it fits into my process.
Obsessed Garage I think that is a good philosophy
in the paint world for automotive refinishing we use razors to knock down clear runs and sags and dust . not everyones into it and not everyone knows but it is the fastest way to knock down the bulk of a run if you ever get it and then follow with sanding to polish
Philip Yeung It's defiantly effective and makes perfect sense seeing it done. It's all about doing it properly so you don't do more damage than good. I have had the unfortunate opportunity to get industrial enamel overspray off of my dads truck. I wish I had known about this simple process. It would have cut hours off of the correction.
Tho video was on point, thanks Matt
This series is going to be awesome.
Amazing video. I love these old school style OG videos!
Thanks Matt!!!!! Great video very informative.
That no rinse stuff is great
I just bought this stuff and used it, I'm impressed with it ! Thanks for this video Matt, I can go back and watch it and learn more ! again Thank you !
onr kills suds. now I know why I haven't been getting enough suds on my last washes. I use the same microfiber mitt for onr and regular wash soap.
This is Jamaica love your video good job 👏👏👏👏👏
Video starts at 1:13
Thanks, I fixed it. It will take a little while to update.
Fix updated. 8-)
You mean 5:29
nice to see some different perspectives. look forward to the more vids of the class.
When doing the wheels, he basically took the dirt from the tire, which he scrubbed first, and then brushed it on to the rim to scratch the hell out of it. I think I'll stick to the Gary Dean Method of using multiple microfiber towel wash mediums and never introduce a dirty sponge back to clean solution.
I figured out the razor blade and ONR trick to remove baked in pine sap before seeing this great video, will be sanding the corners and honing the blade too now :)
Thank you so much for sharing. I feel like I understand rinse less washing better. Also took away less is more. I did find him entertaining as others had mentioned. Looking forward to the second video. Need to re-watch #1 and take some notes on dilution, etc. you've got a new subscriber.
thanks for the information Matt! the two bucket setup is freaking awesome!
Very nice video Matt! Curious to see what you end up using of their line up.
I don’t believe in that it encapsulates and lifts the dirt up bullshit. If so, why doesn’t he just hose of the dirt when Oand R is applied??
I've been using their opti-seal and hyper-seal for a while now. Recently switched to ONR with their big yellow sponge. Love it!
The stuff is magic is far as I'm concerned.
Amazing stuff!! I'm really going to like this series, very interesting and valuable stuff to watch.
This is great. Thanks for recording it and sharing it
this is BAD ASS. Thanks Matt!
You have always had great content, but these last few weeks have been very very good! Thanks bro
Thanks man!
this content creator is very smart and im blessed to hear this information and what they all have to say. God is real and lead me here i am acquiring the industry's best information for free as i type this. Wow.
Excellent questions with excellent answers = Excellent video. Thanks!!!
this is a great series Matt. I remember when i asked you about ONR.... and now you are doing a series on their products. thanks to you.
This video is amazing. I usually multitask when I watch a video that's longer than 5 min., but this had me lazer focused every second of it. Thanks so much for this.
Looking forward to this series, thanks for your efforts! I'm most curious on your opinions of their products... it's very interesting technology but do YOU really buy into what you saw there?
I need more time with the products. Some of it works for me, some of it probably won't.
Nice stove. Would not expect anything less. Keep up the good work.
Ha, ha... Nice catch. I love that thing.
Does the wax go on before the detailer? Also can the ONR be diluted to quick detailer?
JJ ggirt yup
The razor thing is amazing 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Good times. Enjoyed hanging out with you, brother.
Yeah man!
great video! although it was a little hard for me to watch, personally, because that exact model and color Jeep Liberty is what rear ended me and totaled my car.
Ben West I'm sure you would of liked to test out the razor blade trick on the jeep.
I would have volunteered to demonstrate overspray removal using a sledgehammer
Extremely educational. OPT is no joke.
Clearly another SWIFT trailer that went under a low-clearance bridge.
They wasted that good product on a Jeep Liberty..
Every car deserves some love and attention!
I know it has been 4 years since this video and I am not seeing mainstream use of this type of washing. My question is what is your opinion after the past few years of products and advancements?
Interesting how different a take the Optimum guys have on just about every aspect of washing and detailing in general. My obsession began with very standard ways of washing, the way most everyone does it. i.e. soap, water, a soft wash pad, and pressurized water. All of my intuition tells me that these guys are just marketing a product and that a wipe on wipe off wash doesn't work and is in fact harmful to the paint. The other half of me is very intrigued that technology has made such a leap that these once banished methods of washing are actually surpassing the common methods now. Worried that trying these products will officially make me a convert even though all the methods are so beyond foreign to me.
Once I started with rinseless washes, I never looked back. Last time I used soap was in 2017. I just gave the rest of the gallon away to a client.
Growing so we had extremely hard water, so I never enjoyed the wash process.
@@danlc95 I'm considering entirely rinseless with steam assist as the cornerstone of my business -- basically whatever I can do to drastically cut down on chemical and water usage. Have you had to do a lot of 'selling' or explaining to customers about your method? I feel like that could go either way.
Finally, been waiting days for an upload :)
I'm new to car detailing so just learning about ONR and how it'd be great for me as my garage doesn't have running water. I use a bucket/gritt guard and Rag Company Cyclone Mitt. Just watched a video by www.dallaspaintcorrection.com and he says ONR doesn't release the oily/greasy contaminants your car is exposed to when you put the big red sponge/mitt or whatever back into the same bucket as your ONR. Oils etc will float on the surface of your ONR bucket which you would be reapplying to other parts of your car if you continued with just one sponge/mitt. This seems logical so would it be preferable instead to use multiple microfibre cloths with the one ONR bucket solution and just put them to one side as they get dirty rather than trying to rinse one sponge/mitt? Your ONR would always be fresh in the bucket then and no oil slick on the top.
I'd listen to what Yvan says. He actually knows what he is talking about.
Ok but in his video tutorial Yvan returns the sponge into the bucket with the ONR and that’s the issue - there will be oily residue from the car floating on the water in his ONR bucket. Checkout the 2017 Garry Dean wash method which is exactly what I’m talking about except using ONR.
Who the heck has oil their paint? I don't.
Maybe you don’t drive in the rain but I do. The oil comes from being out in the rain where the cars are contaminated by oil from puddles and other vehicles. Watch the video from Dallas Paint Correction. You’ve seen oil in puddles and on the road haven’t you? So when your car goes through them why do you think it’s not splashed on your car?
www.carwashcountry.com/bad-to-wash-wash-car-in-the-rain-before-or-after/ says
‘Just keep this in mind before speeding through a puddle, since whatever salt, oil, dirt, or grease is on the road will soon be all over your car when everything dries.’
Mats Airey the problem isn’t the oil on the paint, it’s the videos your watching. Unfortunately Mr Bley isn’t exactly scientific in his approach, he’s only working to sell his products.
amazing video, thank you! i learned so much.
btw, Optimum...i know you on Amazon, but not all your products are Prime...so why would i pay $6 to ship at $13 product...makes no sense.
Because that's what it costs to ship things. We are so conditioned to get stuff for free. If you want Optimum to stay in business and keep making cool products, they need to make a profit. Or you could buy $100 worth of product and make the percentage shipping cost less.
Matt, thank you for replying and fair enough. Yes sir, after watching your video and following this company and their products for a few years, I definitely want them to stay in business. First order being placed soon...thanks so you level setting me.
Nice!
I want to see that brush tested and shown to not scratch the surface that's insane if it doesn't scratch.
Really wish they didn’t recently reformulate ONR with protection added in. They already had ONR Wash & Wax with protection. Really a turn off to the product as a maintenance cleaner, since anyone who uses it more than likely already has products they use to protect their cars. Now they’ve made you add a step of IPA wipedown to remove whatever ONR leaves behind.
Funny at 22:20 Y’Van gloats about ONR not leaving anything behind and then they go ahead make it leave something behind years later.
love this series!
So one pass with ONR to apply it to the surface and 'lift' the dirt to the top. Is it not best to take a second pass to remove the dirt before using a nice microfiber drying towel to dry the body? Otherwise youre just going to get a dirty drying cloth?
Audio is out of sync somehow.
Can you use opti seal every wash? Like 1-2 times per month? Also can you use wax+opti seal the same way?
I used to work for a plumbing company. My Forman, Allen is his name he talks exactly like you same style and every thing.
You remind me of him.
Cool. Thanks for the post👊
If I am using hard water can I still let it dry on the surface because it creates polymer spots or is this assuming that you are using distilled water?
From 22:05 onwards, Yvan States: "ONR leaves no residue, it hypercleans the paint, so you're left with; just the paint." However, in numerous other official videos, Optimum or Yvan have stated it leaves a polymer protective layer behind.
So which one is it? I think I love this stuff, even though I haven't tried it yet. However the information at times, is contradiciting, making me doubtfull.......
Rik Heijne - I would say the latter. Whatever is in the ONR, will still be there. I’ve used it a couple different ways, and it definitely enhances the gloss of the clearcoat.
@@craig.encinitas Thanks for you response, I really appreciate it.
SWIFT strikes again.
I don't get when he says onr leaves nothing on the paint and on other vids he says it leaves it protected . Whatever it is but it works
‘Why more is not better’ when you have to use a more concentrated one to pre-treat the surface for a dirtier car. I use 1:30 as a waterless wash and 1:20 as a clay lube
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Lol! Razor blades on paint and wet sanding. I learned how to detail in the mid 90’s from some former painters turned detail shop owners. DA’s weren’t a thing (heavy ass Milwaukee 7” antenna removing rotaries were though!). I’ve done some downright disrespectful stuff to some paint jobs in the name of correction. The modern clear coat is waaaay tougher than most folks realize. I agree with the theory of least aggressive methods to achieve results, but coming up when I did with who I did; I’m not scared to bang on some paint with a wool padded rotary or razor blade. Everyone walking around scared to death of creating a swirl or two these days.
Because modern clear is getting thinner and thinner thats why.
Ceramic coating my new M4 at home soon... by myself... prepping for 8 hours of sweaty hard work
Enjoyed it! Razor trick was neat.
What were your thoughts on the BRS, and the built-in grit guard system with the buckets?
Car Cleaning Guru needs to get some of their products. Have you seen how much product he uses on a car? Guy uses like 4 massive sprays on a panel.
He did that so it emulsified and encapsulated the dirt basically making the wash safer
The guy uses way too much spray wax/sealant. I recently watched the red civic and he used 7 sprays on the rear quarter, that's like 3 sprays at the most. Same goes for wheels, don't get why he doesn't use one of those big pump sprayers. I mean he's thorough but fuck he must go through bottles quick.
Andrew Forget car cleaning guru, check out white details if not already.For me best detailing on RUclips.
I have been an Optimum user for years. Good science behind the products and they perform great. Yvan drops some serious knowledge during this seminar.
So basically, onr is way better than a traditional two bucket wash. Why even continue with a two bucket traditional rinse, soap, agitate, rinse? I just started using ONR last winter to wash my car in my garage. It's fantastic.
I still prefer pressure washer and soap method for a dirty car. I will sprinkle in some more rinseless washes after this training. Wheel wells, tires, wheels, exhaust, door jams, etc all come out clean much easier after a good full washing.
I'm here after about 4 years! Matt, you're really great, and thanks for sharing it!
It's like I'm buying the technology but I'm still skeptical, I wish someone could put this under a microscope so I can see proof, I guess I would be most comfortable using it as a drying aid only after a normal soap wash...
I've been thinking about how to shoot some microscope footage for a few different proofs. It's on my list.
I was hoping to hear more about using ONR on already coated and sealed paint.
Audio is off sync??
The double bucket is fairly ingenious.
@9:12 - have there been any health related studies of how ONR interacts with human skin tissue? I always use gloves but every video I see with this chap in it, he's just dipping his bare hands into that solution. Just curious.
I'm not sure.
Does it mean that you can coat the car after using only onr if it leaves no residue?
How long typically would I use a 4-5 gal bucket of solution with a grit guard? More than one wash or should I discard and prepare new solution for each wash?
You could use it for more that one as long as you don't revisit the bucket.
Do you hone the razor blade only from the side of the writing? Or both side?
so much bull...
I’ve watched the videos where you attended the training. How do the products perform in the detailing world ? How often do you find yourself having to use a pressure washer ? I am new to this and just trying to look at the different products and methods
These product are pretty great for production level detailing and some of them are best in class.
Optiseal is by far my favourite detailing product. Used as a drying aid it's amazing.
Does this company has a program that for the average detailer or do it yourself type of person. I love to enroll to their training program.
They have their optimization training
Good product but can you follow up with polish angel cosmic spray sealant or kamikaze over coat
I don't like either one of those products after playing with them for a while.
Awesome video
Can't find the pro blend proportioners at those sites he mentioned. Why can I buy them.
US Plastics have them.
I use a lot of Optimum products, but it seems so counter intuitive to not only use a sponge, but he doesn't even flip the sponge over or anything. Seems like it would scratch the paint every time. I'm really interested in that "clay" towel. Great informative video!
M_Dennis87 I was a sceptic too but now I use BRS on my two corrected daily drivers without problems!
The Big Red Sponge is not available in Australia!
Nice video Matt and good questions. I would have asked the same lol
i can not find the tops at uline or us plastics please let me know what to look for thanks Fred
www.autogeek.net/problboprco.html
Is that El compa Sacra in the black shirt 😂
"Their stuff doesn't show up very much in forums, in Facebook, and other detailing spots." Umm, yeah it does. All of Optimums product do. They're all popular. They're all talked about at fairly great length. It shows up everywhere. All that comment does is present to people the drastic limits of your scope. Just because you don't have visibility into that doesn't mean everyone else doesn't as well.
Ah...yes. You're another one of those that listens to my every word and attempts to catch me slipping. What I was saying is that it seems the marketing engines of the big names have clouded Optimum's name when comparing to CarPro, Gyeon, Adam's, CG, Griot's, or god forbid... marketing like Ceramic Pro. Also, none of the big name detailers that I follow use the products (Kevin Brown, Jason Rose, Larry Kosilla, Mike Phillips, Todd Cooperider). That doesn't mean they aren't selling products. They just aren't on the tip of everyone's tongue. Optimum products are popular with that few that use them. In my experience, usually production heavy detailers or those that have been using the brand a long time and have stuck with them. I was using Opti-Coat original on my wheels 10 years ago, have had 2.0 in my cabinet until recently when I discovered it hardened from age. I'm not sure why, but I'd lost interest. I've had a bottle of ONR about as long. Does that make my "scope" big enough for you? I have bought and tried and have had more training than a large percentage of professional detailers. If I quit my job and started doing it for a living, would what I have to say valid in your eyes? I'd be willing to bet we could find a half a dozen product lines that you haven't experienced that I could share some information about and vice versa. I'm not in competition with you. If you gave that up, maybe we could be friends.
Obsessed Garage I'm positive you're correct in that there are lines out there I have zero experience with and that you could provide valuable information into. There is a reason I'm subscribed to this and many other channels, after all. I definitely don't know everything, but that also doesn't mean everyone else doesn't know it either. The issue here is attempting to speak for everyone with what was, frankly, a rather tone deaf and seemingly arrogant comment. Maybe that wasn't your intention, but that's it came off and it's solidifying even more, IMO, if you're just going to name drop prominent industry experts that we all know. You are obviously knowledgeable with some of the content you cover, but no one will listen if you have a rotten attitude about it. It's a much more systemic issue as well. OG and their members already have a particular stigma in other industry circle and that sucks because we should all be on the same team here. But, like any group, they are usually a reflection of their leadership and if a change is ever to occur, it always starts from the top.
I think you're making up all kinds of stuff that I'm not saying.
Opticoat is the gold standard of coatings
How do I use this as a waterless car wash?