The hug between Bertha and George melted my heart especially when he replied, yes, you did. He wanted Bertha to know that he felt totally disconnected from her, he wasn't sure if she going to cut him out forever. He has missed her support while he's gearing up for a fight with the union.
I loved that scene and the scene where she asked who is covering her back and he said she mattered most to him more than anyone even though her last remark about honesty was a jab at him.
but he still hasn't acknowledged what he did was wrong. Bertha isn't ashy wallflower. She's a partner. Unfortunately I believe this won't be the last time he hides something from her and gets caught in a lie
I feel like it's just too rushed. We saw him in abt 3 episodes then he proposed to Ada. I'm not sure yet if he is genuine with Ada or if there is something that he hid behind.
@@Neddoest Yes. Marian's father squandered (or at least did not invest wisely) the family money. So, Agnes' late husband's money was supporting the household. I hope that the reverend is not after what he thinks is Ada's money (or has a wife, etc.)
@@summer.days1105 indeed he's sketchy. however, my husband asked me to marry him after more than 3 dates and about a month since we met... but he had and has more money so he wasn't after anything I have as a poor artist XD given Agnes' track record think it's a safe bet that if Agnes doesn't like someone they need investigating.
Ada doesn’t have anything of note. Her lifestyle (food, housing, clothing, servants bill, transport) is all paid for by Agnes via her inheritance from her late husband. Forte is a pastor at an elite church. He most likely has nice housing, servants, and food covered by his job. He probably does not have a ton of cash but a lot of his expenses would be covered by his work. So it would be a secure position for himself and Ada and a minor but niche part of high society. Not fancy or a leading role like Agnes, Bertha, or Mrs. Astor, but respectable nonetheless. I say good for Ada, I don’t think he’s an operator. But I’m sure Agnes will intervene somehow so it won’t be smooth sailing.
😟 part of me feels sorry for Agnes. but she is wrong to try and hold her sister as a lifelong companion just because she is a widow and lonely. 😦 and I cannot believe Turner didn't tell her husband she was a maid. Especially when she worked in the same circles she now socializes. That's a dangerous game
We will not make TROUBLE regarding looks are resembling each other, they are ALL Beautiful Women, the Show is just great, it is important to see it more than once!!!
THAT IS EXACTLY HOW MRS. BLANE HAS BEEN SPEAKING OF HER LATE HUSBAND. She clearly made it evident to all who wanted to listen that she was free via her husband's death. Please, you are not looking broader at "double-standard". The older women having her fun will someday look like Larry's mother or grandmother should they take their affair to a marriage. This maybe cruel, but it's a reality, and Mrs. Blane, the woman who said she has always had her cake and eaten it too should know this. She needs to enjoy her affair with her young more virile man and realize it for what it is - an affair! Nothing wrong with that. However, the social consequence for the time in which they live will be heavy and heaviest for Mrs. Blane if it becomes public - and she knows that. Think Mrs. Chamberlain. By the way, Lillie Langtry's only child, a daughter, was believed to be the child of King Edward VII - the former Prince of Wales - her lover.
@deb53 Mrs. Blane certainly was a cougar! Bertha handled her well. Slightly off-topic: One of Edward vii's other mistresses, Alice Keppel, (Queen Camillia's great grandmother) is believed to have had both of her children (Violet and Sonia) with men other than her husband. [Keppel, essentially pimped her out] It is believed that her younger daughter, Sonia Keppel Cubitt, was the child of Edward vii. If that is true, that would make Camilla and King Charles iii (the 3rd) cousins! [Maybe that is *one* of the reasons why the BRF did not want him to be with Camilla]
The unvarnished facts. The old cougar (Mrs. Blane) is enjoying herself too much to let him go. However, I think she also wants a social life full of fun and activity. It will come down to Larry or a social life full of fun and activity.@@ThatsJustMyBabyDaddy
Can we please talk about how Bertha, Turner, and Mrs Blane resemble each other? Omg, Larry is basically sleeping with a woman who resembles his mother…in more ways than one.
I just saw there that in episode 8 Marian confesses her true feelings for Dashiell, I hope she just sees him as a friend i want her to end up with Larry
It seems apparent that the George Russell character is largely patterned on Henry Clay Frick (Pittsburgh steel robber baron partner of Andrew Carnegie). They are telegraphing that the show may shadow the instance when Frick using a hired mob of Pinkerton “detectives” to attack striking unionized mill workers at the Homestead Works Steel Mill (a few miles up the Monongahela River from downtown Pittsburgh). Frick also was famously shot and still insisted on completing his workday.
How did Mrs Astor know about Turner’s past? Have we seen this or do we just assume it’s prevalent on the grapevine? Agnes knew, and she is close enough to call Mrs Astor “Lina”.
Bertha has already "soiled" herself and other socialtes by accepting a former maid in her drawing room, as if she didn't know who she was. If everyone found out about Bertha's deception, it would hit her reputation. So it's too late to tell the truth. And Turner is the wife of an important knickerbocker, with a box at the Academy (until recently), i.e. half a step above Bertha.
Tuner annoys me because why are you so jealous of Bertha? You are now Mrs. W act like it, you tried to steal this woman's life & you're still mad at her?
It kind of ruined the beautiful proposal moment when the coming attractions show Ada rethinking her answer to stay with Agnes. To quick for processing g the scene.
@@ThatsJustMyBabyDaddy I don't believe it was Bertha. Bertha said she had no wish to cause trouble and Bertha does exactly what she says she is going to do. Plus, it now removes one of the weapons Bertha had against Turner.
@@kinziek3190I agree, Bertha has already "soiled" herself and other socialtes by accepting a former maid in her drawing room, as if she didn't know who she was. If everyone found out about Bertha's deception, it would hit her reputation. So it's too late to tell the truth. And she is the wife of an important knickerbocker, with a box at the academy (until recently), i.e. half a step above Bertha.
I don't know why but I find some storylines and characters pretty boring. I skipped the scenes that involved Larry, Mariam, and Peggy but I stopped whenever we have Bertha, George and Agnes on the screen. They are really great characters.
5:20 Cost 20 mil per episode of guilded age, GOT was ~10 mil per ep, The long Night unaired pilot ep was 30 mil. A low budget hollywood film is 90 mil today. 40 mil is chiken feed not "insane amount of money. " why are the podcasters saying 40 mil is an imaginable sum of money for a building? A luxury building like the opera is easily 100 mil today. Bezos is worth 167.8 bilion with a B, dollars. A bilion is 1000 milions...that's huge. The USA budget is in trilions... that's another power to the three. Rest of us are just really poor XD
The hug between Bertha and George melted my heart especially when he replied, yes, you did. He wanted Bertha to know that he felt totally disconnected from her, he wasn't sure if she going to cut him out forever. He has missed her support while he's gearing up for a fight with the union.
I loved that scene and the scene where she asked who is covering her back and he said she mattered most to him more than anyone even though her last remark about honesty was a jab at him.
but he still hasn't acknowledged what he did was wrong. Bertha isn't ashy wallflower. She's a partner. Unfortunately I believe this won't be the last time he hides something from her and gets caught in a lie
😅😮😮😮😮😮
I'm enjoying nothing more than the blossoming romance between Aunt Ada and the new minister. Just sweet.
The last 4min 45 sec was the best (thus far) of the season.
You all knew we were waiting for it this time 😊
What a scintillating episode 🎉
God this show is so amazing loved tonight’s episode!!!
I absolutely love this series!! I hope it goes on and on for years
I love scenery and how accurate these individuals are in their depiction of The Gilded Age!~ Well done.
Such a good episode. Love it ❤🎉
I really hope that preacher man isn't just after Ada's money. 😬
I feel like it's just too rushed. We saw him in abt 3 episodes then he proposed to Ada. I'm not sure yet if he is genuine with Ada or if there is something that he hid behind.
I don’t know if she has any of her own- I thought they had the wealth they do because Agnes married Van Ryne.
@@Neddoest
Yes. Marian's father squandered
(or at least did not invest wisely)
the family money. So, Agnes' late
husband's money was supporting
the household. I hope that the
reverend is not after what he
thinks is Ada's money (or has
a wife, etc.)
@@summer.days1105 indeed he's sketchy.
however, my husband asked me to marry him after more than 3 dates and about a month since we met... but he had and has more money so he wasn't after anything I have as a poor artist XD
given Agnes' track record think it's a safe bet that if Agnes doesn't like someone they need investigating.
Ada doesn’t have anything of note. Her lifestyle (food, housing, clothing, servants bill, transport) is all paid for by Agnes via her inheritance from her late husband. Forte is a pastor at an elite church. He most likely has nice housing, servants, and food covered by his job. He probably does not have a ton of cash but a lot of his expenses would be covered by his work. So it would be a secure position for himself and Ada and a minor but niche part of high society. Not fancy or a leading role like Agnes, Bertha, or Mrs. Astor, but respectable nonetheless. I say good for Ada, I don’t think he’s an operator. But I’m sure Agnes will intervene somehow so it won’t be smooth sailing.
😟 part of me feels sorry for Agnes. but she is wrong to try and hold her sister as a lifelong companion just because she is a widow and lonely. 😦 and I cannot believe Turner didn't tell her husband she was a maid. Especially when she worked in the same circles she now socializes. That's a dangerous game
I felt badly for her too when she dined alone. I hope future episodes break down her veneer...for her sake.
The Gilded Age seems way more story driven and Downton Abbey seemed more character driven… or is that just me?
That’s a good point
agreed. with downton he invented the characters. but with this show he is just following the lives of famous Americans
We will not make TROUBLE regarding looks are resembling each other, they are ALL Beautiful Women, the Show is just great, it is important to see it more than once!!!
THAT IS EXACTLY HOW MRS. BLANE HAS BEEN SPEAKING OF HER LATE HUSBAND. She clearly made it evident to all who wanted to listen that she was free via her husband's death. Please, you are not looking broader at "double-standard". The older women having her fun will someday look like Larry's mother or grandmother should they take their affair to a marriage. This maybe cruel, but it's a reality, and Mrs. Blane, the woman who said she has always had her cake and eaten it too should know this. She needs to enjoy her affair with her young more virile man and realize it for what it is - an affair! Nothing wrong with that. However, the social consequence for the time in which they live will be heavy and heaviest for Mrs. Blane if it becomes public - and she knows that. Think Mrs. Chamberlain. By the way, Lillie Langtry's only child, a daughter, was believed to be the child of King Edward VII - the former Prince of Wales - her lover.
@deb53
Mrs. Blane certainly was a cougar!
Bertha handled her well.
Slightly off-topic:
One of Edward vii's other mistresses, Alice Keppel, (Queen Camillia's great grandmother) is believed to
have had both of her children (Violet and Sonia) with men other than her husband. [Keppel, essentially
pimped her out] It is believed that her younger daughter, Sonia Keppel Cubitt, was the child of Edward vii.
If that is true, that would make Camilla and King Charles iii (the 3rd) cousins! [Maybe that is *one* of the
reasons why the BRF did not want him to be with Camilla]
Mrs Keppel met the King in 1898 when she was 29 years old. She had already had her two daughters.@@here_we_go_again2571
Exactly. Bertha told nothing but facts.
The unvarnished facts. The old cougar (Mrs. Blane) is enjoying herself too much to let him go. However, I think she also wants a social life full of fun and activity. It will come down to Larry or a social life full of fun and activity.@@ThatsJustMyBabyDaddy
@@ThatsJustMyBabyDaddy I thought she was cruel. But then I'm making that statement thru modern eyes.
So much in one episode! Too much? Too many quick changes ? Now I will listen!
Can we please talk about how Bertha, Turner, and Mrs Blane resemble each other? Omg, Larry is basically sleeping with a woman who resembles his mother…in more ways than one.
I think these ladies resemble each other two! I've always thought Bertha & Turner looked alike.
@@donnamaynard4318 i did wonder if that wa son purpose from hair designer or not. can't be a mistake witch such a big show.
They're all brunettes but other than that I don't see the resemblance.
They all look very distinct to me.
I just saw there that in episode 8 Marian confesses her true feelings for Dashiell, I hope she just sees him as a friend i want her to end up with Larry
It seems apparent that the George Russell character is largely patterned on Henry Clay Frick (Pittsburgh steel robber baron partner of Andrew Carnegie). They are telegraphing that the show may shadow the instance when Frick using a hired mob of Pinkerton “detectives” to attack striking unionized mill workers at the Homestead Works Steel Mill (a few miles up the Monongahela River from downtown Pittsburgh). Frick also was famously shot and still insisted on completing his workday.
How did Mrs Astor know about Turner’s past? Have we seen this or do we just assume it’s prevalent on the grapevine? Agnes knew, and she is close enough to call Mrs Astor “Lina”.
Bertha told her.
she worked as a maid for several people. it wasn't a secret
Bertha has already "soiled" herself and other socialtes by accepting a former maid in her drawing room, as if she didn't know who she was. If everyone found out about Bertha's deception, it would hit her reputation. So it's too late to tell the truth. And Turner is the wife of an important knickerbocker, with a box at the Academy (until recently), i.e. half a step above Bertha.
Tuner annoys me because why are you so jealous of Bertha? You are now Mrs. W act like it, you tried to steal this woman's life & you're still mad at her?
It kind of ruined the beautiful proposal
moment when the coming attractions show Ada rethinking her answer to stay with Agnes. To quick for processing g the scene.
I totally agree. It did make my heart sink when I saw that.
Which is why I don't watch them.
Oops! That should be “too” quick!
Team Bertha💅💅😎❤️❤️❤️
I don’t understand why Mrs Astor was aggressively booting out the Wintertons, who might take friends with them.
Because Bertha told her that Turnerton was a lady's maid.
@@ThatsJustMyBabyDaddy I don't believe it was Bertha. Bertha said she had no wish to cause trouble and Bertha does exactly what she says she is going to do. Plus, it now removes one of the weapons Bertha had against Turner.
@@kinziek3190I agree, Bertha has already "soiled" herself and other socialtes by accepting a former maid in her drawing room, as if she didn't know who she was. If everyone found out about Bertha's deception, it would hit her reputation. So it's too late to tell the truth. And she is the wife of an important knickerbocker, with a box at the academy (until recently), i.e. half a step above Bertha.
Why did Luke Forte cry when he proposed to Ada?
I don't know why but I find some storylines and characters pretty boring. I skipped the scenes that involved Larry, Mariam, and Peggy but I stopped whenever we have Bertha, George and Agnes on the screen. They are really great characters.
The drama is intense!
Why is the podcast for each episode of this show longer than the show itself?
5:20 Cost 20 mil per episode of guilded age, GOT was ~10 mil per ep, The long Night unaired pilot ep was 30 mil. A low budget hollywood film is 90 mil today.
40 mil is chiken feed not "insane amount of money. "
why are the podcasters saying 40 mil is an imaginable sum of money for a building? A luxury building like the opera is easily 100 mil today. Bezos is worth 167.8 bilion with a B, dollars.
A bilion is 1000 milions...that's huge. The USA budget is in trilions... that's another power to the three.
Rest of us are just really poor XD
This show is so bad. 🤮
Don't watch. Take your befuddled negative behind elsewhere. 😅😅😅
Then why are you listening to a podcast about it ? Lol