"Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood 1x4 'An Alchemist's Anguish' | First Time Reaction
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
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Arianna and Maple delve into the dark and morally complex world of "Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood" with their reaction to Episode 4, "An Alchemist's Anguish." This episode explores the grim reality of state alchemy and its consequences. Watch their reactions as Edward and Alphonse Elric encounter Shou Tucker, the "Sewing-Life Alchemist," and discover his horrifying experiments with chimeras. The episode takes a turn with the shocking revelation of Tucker's latest creation, leading to Edward's emotional and ethical turmoil. Arianna and Maple provide their insights into the devastating outcome of Tucker's actions and the Elric brothers' struggle to reconcile their goals with the harsh demands of being state alchemists. Witness their responses to the intervention of the mysterious scarred man, adding another layer of intrigue and danger to the story. Stay tuned for their review after the reaction, discussing the episode's themes of sacrifice, power, and the heavy toll of pursuing forbidden knowledge in this captivating anime series.
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00:00 - Intro
00:12 - Reaction
13:22 - Review 
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In the manga, the guy who kills Shou Tucker and Nina at the end walks away saying "God hear me... Two souls have been returned to you". He doesn't say "human souls". In the manga, at the end of every chapter the author puts a small doodle of every person who died on that chapter (no matter who) with angel wings flying up to heaven, even if they are bad and/or villains. In this specific case (and only in this case) she draws Nina and Alexander flying up while Shou Tucker is falling down to hell.
I think this is an ENG dub goof
I don't remember him saying this and watched 3 times (sub)
@@stephanyfiuza9180 thats why he said in the MANGA
@@dapoiboi8360 and I'm saying that in the anime he says the same thing
@@stephanyfiuza9180 it's the English dub, not sub
"How much sadness can they fit in one - 24 minute - episode??"
Yes. The answer is yes.
"At least your passing will be in peace". Gets me every single time.
"Grief isn't linear"
Is so so true
I actually think that is something this show also represents really well compared to other TV and anime.
Grimgar does this really well, too.
Welcome to the FMA Fandom! This is the episode that initiates all new members.
We all get the gut punch.
The other Chimera in Tucker's lab aren't people, just fusions of animals. He used a human cause he wanted the talking aspect, which you can only get from humans.
That said, a man abducting people off the street for alchemical experiments to make chimeras would make a *great* premise for a horror story.
That reminds me so much of the "John the Hellhound" AMV, quite a similar premise stiched together with FMAB scenes.
Yet there was something there that looked like a fetus mixed with a lizard
@@handohansolo8866if you look up bird human and lizard fetus they all look alike at an early stage
Have you ever seen “the walrus” it’s kinda that…
Episode 3 and Episode 4 are actually thematically linked. Episode 3 is about the shortcomings of faith in religion, Episode 4 is about the shortcomings of faith in science. Shou is not wrong in his actions if you look at it in terms of alchemy, the only goal alchemists have is the pursuit of knowledge (truth), and if that principle is held up with no other restrictions, what Tucker did was permissible. The theme of religion v. science runs throughout the entire show.
Ready for these two to be shocked by just how serious and dark this seemingly fun anime can get.
I would never call this a "fun anime", there are moment of levity but its nowhere near fun as a whole. though the dub, like all english dubs, butchers the script and re-writing characters and events.
I mean, I think they got a pretty good idea in episode two during the flashbacks. It doesn't waste any time to stop being fun
Welcome to the community. We all hurt here.
This is one of the hardest hitting episodes in, not just this series, but in all of anime. I've seen it countless times, and it brings me to tears every time. Trust me, you're not alone.
The original series played it slightly differently, giving you a longer time to get attached to Nina, and ratcheting up the tension a bit slower, so both Ed and the audience knew at the end what was about to happen.
Tucker's speech to Ed at the end was also slightly different, with one of the most irredeemable lines tossed in. Instead of him looking crazy as he did here, he responds more coldly. When Alphonse asks him why he did it, if staying a state alchemist was so he could provide for his family, what was the point in destroying his family to do it.
Tucker's response is haunting.
Shou: [Sighs] I hate prodigies like you Ed. Too damn perceptive.[Edward throws Tucker against a wall.]
Alphonse: [Surprised] Brother!
Edward: This guy used his own wife, Al!
Alphonse: A-and this time?
Edward: HIS DAUGHTER!....and his dog! He transmuted them into that...THING! An easy process when you use people, right?!
Shou: Why are you getting so upset, Edward? It's the nature of scientific progress: animal testing, experimentation, trial and error! All advancements have -- a price.
Edward: SHUT UP! I'm not gonna let you rationalize this, you monster! That was your own family, damn it! You've been toying with people's LIVES!
Shou: Toying with lives? What?! Like your arm and leg there? Or your brother's body? Or trying to bring your mother back? That's toying, isn't it? You don't really think you are any different from me, do you, Ed? [Edward punches Tucker, sending him to the ground. Tucker chuckles. Edward prepares to punch him again but is stopped by Alphonse.]
Alphonse: Why, Mr. Tucker? The whole point was to pass the assessment and continue your way of life. But now your family's gone. What life is left?!
Shou: That's the funny thing, I didn't have a reason. I fully understood, no matter what I did, my life would be ruined. I could either do it with the science, or without. And so I chose science, to see if I could.
Edward: What kind of man...?
Shou: When you have the power to do something, it's hard not to try. Isn't that what we agreed on, Ed? Aren't we so much alike?
Edward: NO!
Shou: Sure...part of me did it for respect and this house. Just as you partly did it for your mother. But there's more. You're desperate to put your mind to use, Ed. To see what you're capable of, to put the world under your fingers...that's the essence of alchemy. You did it for knowledge...control. Above all, you did it just to prove you can. [Edward punches Tucker again]
Edward: You're wrong. Alchemy isn't meant to be... I'm not like you! [Edward repeatedly punches Tucker.] I'M NOT! NOT! I'M NOT!
Alphonse: Brother, you'll kill him!
And then Nina growls like a dog, further cementing to us just how much she and Alexander have become one.
"This is so dark."
Oh this train has only just left the station.
There's nothing closer than the bond between a girl and her dog.
BRUH!
This was even more of a gut punch in the original anime. They stretched out this story to two full episodes to both help you fall in love with Nina and Alexander and to cause you to lower your guard to Shou Tucker as they weren't anywhere close to as overt with his intentions as they were here which made the reveal significantly more impactful. The OG Fullmetal Alchemist anime is worth a watch for those episodes alone if nothing else.
Yeah I felt something was off, I dont remember it being this obvious
No wonder I remember shou turning half dog
Yeah, I feel like FMA:B kind of assumes that anybody watching it has already seen alteast the first 25 episodes of FMA; it really rushes through that part of the story; sometimes by cutting out pointless filler, but just as often by cutting out valuable character and world building and by condensing down the plot in a way that ruins the suspense. Tbh it's only really after FMA:B gets to the point that FMA diverged from the manga that it gets really good
@@robertwinslade3104 Indeed. Cutting out Yoki's back story also leaves new viewers to FMA:B quite confused when he shows up.
They are things in the original that I really liked and wished they would have kept some of those elements in FMA:B
Here we go, THIS incident, the defining incident of this entire series even more so in some ways than the attempted resurrection of their mother. I already can see Ariana's expression in the thumb, don't let that cute animation and crazy expressions fool you
I myself already tearing up only looking at this thumbnail.
@ekipogh I remember watching this play out years ago, and by the end of the episode when he was gloating to Ed and Al about his latest chimera I kept wondering, "hey, where are Nina and the doggooooooh my God"!!!
I think this and the Major Hughes storyline was told better in the original FMA
@Kickinthescience Oh I agree, but for those who haven't seen that version, it's executed well enough. But they were definitely done better in the original FMA show
Every time this episode played in the house or I see someone react to it, my daughter and I instantly cry.
She is 26 now..... And it still hurts the same as the first time.
This will be tough.
Fun?-Trivia, There is a minor translation error in the dub/sub at the End the person that kills Tucker and Nina should say "two souls" instead of "two human souls" because he talks about Nina and the dog going to Heaven. Also in the Manga there is a panel where you see Tuckers Soul go to hell.
That was one of the saddest moments in all history of anime😢
now I wouldnt go that far.
@@Shiirow Orly? Its been top tier heartbreaker in the anime community meta since the manga started..j
Not sure if you'll ever read this, but imo this is just about as brutal as the show gets. It gets plenty affecting and emotional and traumatic later on, but I genuinely think they hit you with this early so your pain barometer is calibrated correctly.
i would say the whole story a bout ishval can get pretty dark too
@@Moonbreaker97 yeah but it's more abstract because of the scale a war takes. For a lot of people the Nina story is very personal and human because you know everyone involved. The Ishval story requires you to wrap your mind around atrocities a lot of people just cognitively check out on a little.
I remember when the first FMA series (the one from 2003) came to my country, on a new TV channel dedicated exclusively to anime. At that time, I had a group of friends with whom we used to get together at a local comic book store to talk about series and stuff. The day after the Nina and Alexander episode aired (I think the 2003 series made it even MORE emotionally destructive), there wasn't ONE person in the place who wasn't depressed.
Fire Lord Ozai is an understanding and loving father compared to Shou Tucker.
I was at like a single digit age when my big sister showed me FMA. She made sure to watch this part with me basically to see how much I cried. Good times...
Maple and Arianna have now been introduced to one of anime's greatest villains.
This show is rough emotion wise. No matter how many reactions and rewatches i see of this, i always cry. There’s several eps of this show that make me cry no matter how many times i rewatch tbh
Yes welcome to FMAB!! This show does the absolute best in balancing the light hearted comedy and soul crushing darkness of life, and the macro plot line is just such a great ride lol 😅
this episode was always a heartbreaker for me especially when Nina dies atx the end. Ed's reaction when he finds out what Shou Tucker transmuted a talking Chimera using Nina & Alexander. plus when Scar kills her makes me cry like a baby. 😭😭😭
I remember feeling nauseous after watching this the first time. Ugh that voice of the chimera is so unsettling. And asking to play 😭 ugh it’s too much.
Not even the saddest episode or moment of this serie.😭😭😭
But still my favorite anime. It touches so many hard topics, such as the complexities of nature, religion, and science. The horrors of war and the hope and faith of a better future.
Gotta say the Nina episode hits way harder in the original, probably the only weakness of Brotherhood is the speed running of the early stories.
Agreed. Original FMA definitely does better for the early episodes imo. Either until the story starts deviating from the manga, or at least until Hughes.
this is one of the episodes that will never leave you. years from now, youll catch yourself thinking about this episode. such an amazing story. such amazing story telling.
Bless their hearts they are entering that episode
This will always be one episode I'll never forget Frfr. That's why this anime is in my top 5 to 10
They were definitely not ready. Nobody was 😢
I've rewatched the show multiple times, and I'm not sure I'm ready to see this episode again.
Even knowing it’s coming doesn’t help
@@ryanakers1372 I only see the reactions now.
This episodes story is why I always suggest watching the original series 1st. It takes places over a couple episodes and gets a lot more time to breath, so when the reveal happens. It is just a giant shock. Also, it goes into the fact that being a kaimera is extremely painful.
Episode 3 portrays what can happen when Religion goes too far
Episode 4 portrays what can happen when Science goes too far
A way I've heard about not being able to separate a Chimera is: you have ingredients of a cake, once you fuse them and make a cake, you can never separate the cake back into its base ingredients.
Cake of Sadness.
Muffin of Despair.
Bread Loaf of Heartache.
I was really excited to see you watch this but then I remembered which episode it was and my heart sank. I've watched both animes and it still hits me every time
Ah, you've finally reached a rite of passage that every fan of this series - and anime in general - knows all too well. It's one of the darkest moments in the series, and that's saying a _lot._ It reminds me of something I saw on social media a couple of years ago. A fan was a barista at cafe, and they drew Nina and Alexander on a poster board... as a way to promote a meal combo.
one thing i truly appreciate about this show is they never forget about nina and alexander. actions and events carry weight and pervade through the entirety. only maybe two other moments in anime for me ever really sunk deep and the other two were berserk eclipse and Kenshin and Tomoe in Samurai X.
Welcome to the club. Gets me every time and I've watched FMAB over 20 times at this point
The Nina scene was very heartbreaking and surprisingly toned down from the 2005 anime. Still hits hard though.
Someone has to comment it and I haven't seen it yet but in the manga the author would draw a character going to Heaven or Hell after they died, Tucker was one of the few who went to hell because there was absolutely nothing redeeming about him
I have an amazingly terrible shirt that has Nina and Alexander doing the fusion dance from DBZ. It always gets the best reactions when I wear it lol
The stpry telling throughout this series is why it is still one of my alltime favorites.
It's not the reveal of what happened that gets me. It's the chimera saying: "Can we play now?" It doesn't understand. I literally cry every time. It ruins me.
There’s like an after credit in the manga that shows Shou Tucker in Hell, the only character in the entirety to be show ending up there.
The episode that made me start respecting Scar as a character
Welcome to FMA:B this is one of the most famous episodes in all of anime. This series does a great job of capturing silly humor gut wrenching tragedies, and really gets you thinking of the duality of man. How do you define good and evil? In a lot of cases it’s only a matter of perspective.
That part in the first version is even more painful 😢
I liked that version better too…I remember not really liking brotherhood that much
First time I saw this and😮 realized I was only four episodes in I was like oh man, I'm really in for it here 😅
From now on the series becomes a continuous descent into darkness. Fasten your seat belt ladies.
First time i watched it in 2009 i wasn't in a very nice place mentally and i remember feeling really anguished after each episode to the point of dropping the series without getting to the end.
Watched it fully not long ago and this became one of my top favorite anime series.
It's refreshing to see your raw emotions. I watch it again with you and kbew, this scene would appear. So I did not cry but still it's hard to see
This episode upsets me so much... I cried just as much watching this reaction as Arianna did even though I've seen it a few times... I think this is the hardest episode to watch in the whole series.
Yoki only gets a brief mention here when Havoc is going through paperwork. Fallman summed up the important parts. Just remember the face...
I don't know if this is what the voice actor who does Shou's voice was going for but reminds me of John Doe (played by Kevin Spacy) from the movie Seven.
How heartless can Shou Tucker be. Doing that to his loved ones and stating that as "doing things against the rules" as if there weren't other reasons WHY he should never do such a thing to them...
Because the 2003 series existed, when they came to do brotherhood and stay closer to the completed Manga, they compressed these beginning episodes. Since it was done already
13:15 You spend an episode with her in the older anime Nina was in like 5 episodes before she died.
Episode 3: religion is bad when taken to extremes
Episode 4: science is bad when taken to extremes
"it's just an anime and it cannot be that sad" 😭😭😭
It’s ok to cry. The writers knew what strings to tug. This is a damn good anime, I hope you get through the entire series.
I wish they’d do a “Full Metal Alchemist: Director’s Cut” where they merge the front half of FMA and the back half of FMA: Brotherhood. Almost like a Full Metal Alchemist: Chimera… I’ll see myself out now.
It was raining a lot in this episode, huh? Man...
...what a terrible day for rain.
Not only was he eleven. Not only were they only trying to get their mom back. The biggest difference is that both Ed and Al CHOSE to do what they did. Nina and Alexander didn't have a choice.
This series is amazing, and if this is driving them to tears, which how can it not, the NEW stuff that comes in from the manga will level them emotionally.
As I was clicking off of the last video and on to this one, Maple said, “I’m having fun,” and I was like, “OH NO.”
There may or may not be a teeshirt out there of Nina and Alexander doing the fusion dance from DBZ. To those who have not seen Brotherhood, it is adorable, to those who know, it's insanely dark, which is why it's great.
5:30 cause they assume you've read the manga or seen the older anime and thus know about the plot twist with Tucker.
I love being told that this was a kids show
I love Brotherhood, but this episode from the 2003 anime always sticks with me more when Nina asks Ed "Why does it hurt here?" disturbs me so much and Ed finding her after Scar finds her
The ending scenes with all the rain in the background.... What a sad day for rain.
What do you mean? It's not raining
I was so excited to see this reaction. Worth it.
I always say that for any show I try, you got up to 4 episodes to sell me your premise, invest my interest and hook me. And I think its a good bench mark for almost anyone. FMA:B is no exception, and it makes it mark loud and clear.
I think these two are officially ensnared by the story. I look forward to seeing their reactions to the multitude of phenomenal story beats coming down the line. They certainly picked one of the best shows to sink their teeth into.
This is the episode that hooked me in, so damn good!
Everything until the "raining" scene is kinda done better in the original, because Brotherhood speeds through it. (trying not to spoil anything) But yeah, this whole thing sticks with you. It's still to this day like in the top 3 most messed up things I've seen in anime.
Ah, yes… this episode is a bonding experience for all of us. Welcome to Feels-metal Alchemist!
The extremes of science. The Linore episode was about the extremes of religion. The author is a genius.
Also just to make crystal clear, Roy's comment on not being better than Shou Tucker was self-deprecating, not sympathy or endorsement.
Its why he specifically said "we," when referring to alchemists and the military.
This anime is insanely dark. If it wasn't for the light-hearted cartoony moments, this show would be so much darker 😅
This is what the internet and the fans have always said “it will always be too soon” to even consider, mention, think about, let alone joke about these two… #Nina&Alexander😢😢
this is even worse when you consider that like 3 episodes later we learn that human chimeras exist already...
This was more shocking and creepy in the original. I've never had that kind of tears come out of my eyes before or after. Maybe it was because it was the first time I saw it, maybe it was because I was young enough that I didn't realise what was going on until I heard the voice of the chimera, but it was actually horrifying... and I'm the kind of person who doesn't understand why people like horror movies because the barely effect me.
Finally. It's here. The episode we've all been waiting for.
This is the major storyline I preferred from the original anime. You spend more time with the Tuckers and Shou is not so bombastically creepy. Plus you've seen so many other corrupt alchemists and psychos that Shou comes of normal that you might not suspect what he's about to do.
I still remember someone making an Alt Animal Crossing cover with Nina and Alexander on it.
watching this for the first time hurt... now I'm sadistic watching other reactions to it. (and seeing jokes made of it)
Yep, and your feels will be rekt once more on episode 10... This is one of my favorite animes of all time because of the range of emotions it made you feel.
The Japanese-language voice actor (for the father) sounded just like that, a warm and loving man. It make the reveal so shocking at the end. Not caring for the English voice acting for this one.
everyone knew what was coming we were all silent the path of a anime fan is hard and tough
We're on this journey with Ed and Al now and for better or worse, Nina is a key part of their and our experience.
If you think about how complicated and constantly in flux biological creatures are, it's no wonder achieving equivalent exchange in bioalchemy is so difficult. Would also explain why it is impossible to unfuse and reassemble them how they were.
You're through the hazing period. Welcome aboard!
Idk if it's a US thing or what to assume that we(males) do nothing around the house or any chores? Here in my country(Hungary) but in many other European countries it's pretty common for boys to being raised with basic things, well, nowadays some kids get some pocket money for it as a motivation but yea. Even in many Asian countries it's taught even in schools, kindergarten/preschool, elementary, middle school, (high school where high schools are a thing as for most countries to my knowledge elementary is 1 to 8 and then middle-school 9-12/13 then University, well just cleaning together in highschools, like the basics, in University there is no time for that so a cleaner does it).
please take breaks this show is rough all around and all the way through.
Knowing they’re well ahead of this posting. They both likely know that this series is going to draw out a lot more tears.
The first roughly four episodes of this series is very rushed but quickly seems into almost exactly manga accurate to the story. A few minor changes in a few spots.
I don’t think they’ll be able to handle this episode
Little old but... welcome to Feelsmetal Alchemist, only after this episode can you be accepted as one of us.
Nina has got that dog in her 😅
Everyone aboard the Trauma Train!
With you this wrecked from this episode, I can't imagine how you'd do if you had seen the FMA version - that version hit harder.
Oh god this goddamn episode traumatized me, til this day!
In here and in the original series as well 😰😰😰
My only problem with watching people watch things I love is not being able to make hint jokes about future info...its soo frustrating
Congratulations! You never need to watch this episode ever again.
Still say the original series from 03 handle this storyline with Shou Tucker and Nina far better. More flesh out and by far more dark.
Even if "Scar" hadn't shown up and killed him Shou Tucker was already a dead man. He was inside the military system and the state had already determined his guilt. He was set to be executed by firing squad. Any easy choice for them to make given that his work was largely useless outside of the human transmutations and they had no use for those.