Burnham Says Goodbye To Georgiou - Star Trek Discovery 3x10

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  • @filippofittipaldi8050
    @filippofittipaldi8050 4 года назад +430

    Georgiou was a great character. She was a horrible person by the Prime Universe standard but she was a successful, extremely competent Terran. Showing just a modest amount of empathy and compassion is fatal. When she thought the Guardian was going to send her back to the Terran Empire she balked. Like Darth Vader or Ebenezer Scrooge, her former life was no longer want she wanted: the story redeems her. I'm not a religious, but I do believe in redemption.

    • @Alex-Bland
      @Alex-Bland 4 года назад +12

      Beautifully put.

    • @FJF1085
      @FJF1085 4 года назад +20

      She tried to reform the Empire. It would never have been the Federation and we know from the reforms that Spock successfully implemented years later that it might have caused the fall of the Empire but maybe she could have reformed it and kept it together. We don’t know but I think she would still have failed because they weren’t ready. The Terrans needed their subjection by the Klingon-Cardassian Alliance to reform. I’d be curious to see what the status of the mirror universe was in the 32nd century.

    • @KnowTrentTimoy
      @KnowTrentTimoy 4 года назад +9

      Great character yes but the empress was still involved in the deaths of MILLIONS of species and dozens and dozens of civilizations. Karma transcends even dimensional time shifts. She appears to have totally changed her ways but can you IMAGINE the karmic retribution she has to cleanse herself from moving forward? No one gets a pass for that kind of deviancy and murderous resume. She better do A LOT of GOOD moving forward (even in Section 31).

    • @walterdayrit675
      @walterdayrit675 4 года назад +4

      Well said indeed. 🖖

    • @Special_Tactics_Force_Unit
      @Special_Tactics_Force_Unit 4 года назад

      Just like Hitler :)

  • @zilk3124
    @zilk3124 4 года назад +266

    The Terran and Vulcan salute was beautiful!

    • @vinnyc.1265
      @vinnyc.1265 4 года назад +9

      The music was awesome too.

    • @zilk3124
      @zilk3124 4 года назад +13

      @@vinnyc.1265 Yeah especially the part when once they both did their salutes there was the epic dramatic music that I love.

    • @Special_Tactics_Force_Unit
      @Special_Tactics_Force_Unit 4 года назад +1

      It was only half a terran salute. She should have gone full Roman salute. like just go out like a real G.

    • @kbong85
      @kbong85 3 года назад

      in the words of michael scott... "BINGO!!! WHOA Whoa whoa!!!"

    • @demarcusfaulkner7411
      @demarcusfaulkner7411 3 года назад

      Agreed

  • @shaunig6716
    @shaunig6716 Год назад +40

    “I wish I learnt all this long ago” A sentiment a lot of adults feel, I know I do

  • @darknerd8332
    @darknerd8332 3 года назад +58

    At this point, georgiou has the best of both worlds. She now has the compassion and love that Prime georgiou has, and has the strength, will, and toughness of her Terran side.

  • @rainalane1638
    @rainalane1638 4 года назад +67

    2:35 I like how they compare the prime universe and mirror in one salute, it means so much even without words

    • @BryGuyXCV
      @BryGuyXCV 3 года назад

      Burnham: Live Long and Prosper
      Georgiou: Long Live (former emperor) Georgiou.

  • @chefbscreations5974
    @chefbscreations5974 4 года назад +130

    I also love how it's automatic "can michael come with me". Like we go everywhere together 😊... Well till now. Its both cute and a little sad.

  • @chefbscreations5974
    @chefbscreations5974 4 года назад +193

    I hope they cross paths again. Discovery without Phillipa.... I don't know, might take me a while to wrap my head around. She was my favourite thing about the show.

    • @mightymulatto3000
      @mightymulatto3000 4 года назад +3

      Her leaving was sorely needed. More lines and character development for the other members of the bridge crew.

    • @chefbscreations5974
      @chefbscreations5974 4 года назад +14

      @Daniel Zhang I hope so. I like their relationship. They might have been from different universes but they were the perfect Michael and Phillipa for each other. Unlike the ones from their own time lines. Seems like a waste to give that dynamic up.

    • @MingWLee
      @MingWLee 4 года назад +7

      It is possible that Phillipa will leave something behind for Michael to get in the future (now in Discovery)

    • @danielshottopics8187
      @danielshottopics8187 4 года назад +2

      @Daniel Zhang She Went to the Past I don't see her Popping up in the Future she will Just get sick again, I would like her to Crossover but I Just don't see how.

    • @KnowTrentTimoy
      @KnowTrentTimoy 4 года назад +6

      I actually preferred the prime universe Captain Phillipa. If given enough time (and without her untimely death) she would've been a greater character.

  • @JesseColton
    @JesseColton 2 года назад +19

    "When you brought me here, the greater part of me was already dead."
    Phew, that's heavy. I missed that line the first time I saw this scene

  • @austrone8586
    @austrone8586 4 года назад +122

    I'm gonna miss her so bad, I nearly 😢, I'm gonna miss the Emperor so bad. And them doing the Terran greet and the Vulcan greet is just nice tooo

    • @cypheron3030
      @cypheron3030 4 года назад +5

      Im guessing the time that Carl is sending her back to...is the First Contact between Terrans and Vulcans...idk, I have no idea

    • @Knightfall182
      @Knightfall182 4 года назад +4

      Phillipa murdered thousands and then ate some of them. Space hitler, but worse. But the show praises her because shes a 'strooong woman'

    • @tabbithawilliams1404
      @tabbithawilliams1404 4 года назад +7

      I will miss the Emperor. I hope we get to see her again some how :-)

    • @austrone8586
      @austrone8586 4 года назад +12

      @@Knightfall182 oh yeah Terrans are monsters but she kinda proved that monsters can change with the right people around them

    • @Knightfall182
      @Knightfall182 4 года назад +2

      @@austrone8586 She hasn't really changed. She still takes joy in murdering and is a sadist. After murdering and eating 1000s of people, she should be sick and want to pay for her crimes. But nah, the show still tries to glorify her. They wouldn't do the same if it was a male in the same role.

  • @jaythomas3224
    @jaythomas3224 3 года назад +47

    One of the best emotional scenes in Trek history. They were perfect on away missions

  • @mangostarch
    @mangostarch 4 года назад +55

    People are complaining about how Michael cries to much and I have to say based on the situations her crying is quite human. Maybe she is placed in to many situations where she cries, but that is the script. Any human would cry in those situations.
    The belief that tears are a sign of weakness rather than a need to release stress, to allow you to function at your best is the real problem I see here. Once people recognize the true purpose of tears then they may be able to cope better.

    • @mangostarch
      @mangostarch 4 года назад +1

      For the record I will really miss the Terran Emperor. She add a great deal to this show. Will definitely look out for Section 31, Phillipa always want Leland's job anyway. I hope they begin where discovery disappeared and Lealand is gone.

    • @kirin7932
      @kirin7932 3 года назад +14

      Also they're forgetting that Michael grew up on the Vulcan planet and has been suppressing her human emotions which is quite understandable why she's always emotional now.

    • @LadyAstarionAncunin
      @LadyAstarionAncunin 2 года назад +3

      Eloquently put. I also think about the fact that Michael spend years repressing emotions on Vulcan when it's not natural for humans to do so. She's more than earned her right to express her emotions, and she's not the only one who does. At least she does so constructively rather than destructively. And I can say from a personal perspective, that I spend decades repressing my own emotions in order to shoulder other people's, something I never should have done. Now, I cry more times than I ever have in my life, even if it's when I'm alone, something I would have disdained as a younger person. It's realistic.

  • @GaymingAndStuff
    @GaymingAndStuff 4 года назад +53

    This scene broke my heart so much...because I knew it was the end of Phillipa's run on Discovery...
    It's bittersweet because we know Michelle Yeoh is getting a Section 31 spin-off...but, it still makes me sad.
    I love the character development of the Mirror Georgiou. It was beautifully executed, and I am sure it will continue on to her spin-off.
    This scene was extremely powerful. The writing for this season has been absolutely amazing. I hope they keep this same level of writing into season 4.
    That Terran and Vulcun salute...I won't lie, I had tears.

    • @mitchellmelkin4078
      @mitchellmelkin4078 3 года назад +2

      Christopher Clay, That show is never happening. As much as the commenters here have found various things entrancing about these productions, that employ the brand's name and nothing else, they have no long-term future without international distribution. Let the network find someone else who won't tell them to pound sand. I wouldn't hold my breath, as however they have tried to obfuscate the viewership metrics, there are simply far too few fans like you and the others here. Enjoy it while you can.

  • @jeangreene7565
    @jeangreene7565 4 года назад +197

    This was a very emotional scene. A fitting farewell to Michelle Yeoh's character. She will be missed.
    I have watched the Star Trek series for almost 50 years. Seeing Nichelle Nichols on the bridge of that starship was just the thing I didn't know I needed. Yet, none of the shows were well received in their initial phases. TOS was canceled after 3 years. Each new incarnation of Star Trek is met with resistance by the fandom. Picard as captain?! That old bald-headed man?! Sisko is not even on a ship AND he becomes a god?! The show is too dark! That's not Star Trek!! A woman as captain?! They're not even in the right galaxy. That's not canon! Enterprise without Kirk! Sacrilege!! The angst and resistance are almost as much Star Trek as the shows. I'd be surprised if a show got rave reviews from the fandom. Now THAT would be the kiss of death!
    I have enjoyed each version of Star Trek and what each brings to the universe of Trek. I also enjoy watching and reading about the Trek purists who eviscerate each show and character. That shows that interest and love in this great franchise are really still out there.

    • @Josh_Fredman
      @Josh_Fredman 4 года назад +26

      Well said. I'm glad there are people who use their energy in the RUclips comments to do something better than just spread hatred and misery.

    • @freshFerdinand
      @freshFerdinand 4 года назад +4

      Well Lower Decks is viewed really favorably by the fandom and it didn't need 3 Seasons like Disco to get good.

    • @keirfarnum6811
      @keirfarnum6811 4 года назад +7

      Yeah, Trekkies can be real b*+

    • @ashlynnp.9609
      @ashlynnp.9609 4 года назад +4

      @@freshFerdinand
      Okay. But you wanna know what took three seasons to get good? TNG. Have you never heard of Riker’s Beard? It happens with literally every Trek show.

    • @freshFerdinand
      @freshFerdinand 4 года назад +4

      @@ashlynnp.9609 I know, I always thought Disco was worth watching, but it did really come together in S3, I like the show, but it had a really rough start.
      My main point however was that Lower Decks was an outlier.

  • @kirin7932
    @kirin7932 3 года назад +33

    haters keeps complaining how she's always crying and at this scene like ?? she's saying her final goodbye to her loved one who wouldn't cry to that??

    • @40yearsnopie
      @40yearsnopie 3 года назад +7

      Haters are gonna hate, but I think they're just a loud minority. I think most of the world that watches STD has love for it

    • @mitchellmelkin4078
      @mitchellmelkin4078 3 года назад

      @@40yearsnopie Unless you can provide data that shows the contrary, it's the commenters here who are in the minority, a very small one. The network can play games with viewership metrics, but there's nothing to indicate that these shows attract anything more than an infimitesmal audience. Without international distribution, the brand's future on Paramount Plus is dead in the water.

    • @thomashong2938
      @thomashong2938 Год назад +1

      @@40yearsnopie If you love the show, call it DSC or DIS. Never call it STD. That’s what the haters and trolls call the series.

  • @FFF813
    @FFF813 4 года назад +178

    So many complaints about Michael getting emotional all the time. Did any of you ever think that this is a big step in her emotional growth to experience emotions in a less controlled way after spending her childhood and formative years being raised as a Vulcan?

    • @wickedprotos1937
      @wickedprotos1937 4 года назад +2

      @@sl4637 Exactly!!!! Cries all the time and throws tantrums and does what she wants over orders. Vulcans exiled her.

    • @troymash8109
      @troymash8109 4 года назад +6

      This show is objectively bad. It's a dumpster fire.

    • @mackgiver875
      @mackgiver875 4 года назад +5

      Key words there being "All the time." It's like there's an alarm on her phone and some app is telling her to let it all out again...

    • @Zyleace
      @Zyleace 3 года назад +10

      Well, people who complained about it are Terrans definitely.

    • @wickedprotos1937
      @wickedprotos1937 3 года назад

      How could she achieve rank with that tendency?

  • @LadyAstarionAncunin
    @LadyAstarionAncunin 2 года назад +16

    My favorite Star Trek (and TV show of all time) is DS9. In many ways, Discovery is DS9's legacy more than any other Star Trek because of how the characters of Discovery, like the characters of DS9, are allowed to be people, not just soldiers. There are a LOT of tears in DS9, including from Captain Benjamin Sisko himself. He even cries in the first episode. People need to understand that if you're thrown into such high-stress, high-anxiety, tragic moments to the degree that they are, you're going to either become an unstable force getting angry and pushing people away or having empathy and releasing those emotions more usefully. Both Discovery and DS9 know how to balance.

    • @MLPDethDealr32
      @MLPDethDealr32 Год назад

      Wtf. Discovery is an insult to what came before. What the fck are you on about. Kurtzman needs to be kept FAR away from anything Star Trek.

  • @kbong85
    @kbong85 4 года назад +19

    watching georgiou leave had me sobbing... i mean really... the send off was great... for real!!!

  • @ger5565
    @ger5565 4 года назад +19

    Georgiou's growth and development in this series is one of my favorite aspects of the show. I'll miss her, but this send off was great, especially her newfound respect for Saru/Kelpians.

  • @SearIsland
    @SearIsland 4 года назад +16

    God damn, star trek and star wars bringing tears on the same day. LOL.

  • @lumberluc
    @lumberluc 4 года назад +18

    Georgiou, you will be remembered as the Badass woman that could do wonders. Till we meet again.

  • @1amb1
    @1amb1 Год назад +4

    "I will never find another like you".
    "I don't think I will, either. But we owe it to ourselves to try."

  • @lancechristian3648
    @lancechristian3648 Год назад +4

    When Michelle Yeoh left Discovery is the day I think the show jumped the shark.

  • @quiveringSlug
    @quiveringSlug 3 года назад +9

    I was close to crying because of Georgiou leaving and also, how emotional the scene is.

  • @forestbeing5930
    @forestbeing5930 3 года назад +5

    At first time she shows her emotions as Terran,friend & mother❤🙏🏻

  • @demarcusfaulkner7411
    @demarcusfaulkner7411 3 года назад +4

    Definitely beautiful dynamic

  • @teylaemmagansheppard
    @teylaemmagansheppard 4 года назад +13

    I cried I'm not going to lie about it .

  • @mikebasil4832
    @mikebasil4832 3 года назад +13

    One way or another, the Trek universe can always find a way to reach our hearts. 🖖🏻

  • @Youcanthandlethetruthever
    @Youcanthandlethetruthever 3 года назад +9

    I love beautiful endings. Truly beautiful x

  • @brianlindee220
    @brianlindee220 4 года назад +35

    This scene I think made me more sad than when Kirk gave his heart to heart with Spock before he died at the end of the wrath of khan

    • @vrASMR180
      @vrASMR180 3 года назад +2

      You have got to be trolling

    • @skankhunt-wy9wy
      @skankhunt-wy9wy 3 года назад

      Wow, I have never wanted to inflict pain on someone over star trek more than right now. I desperately hope you aren't around anymore

  • @hmmmmm6056
    @hmmmmm6056 4 года назад +8

    If you think about it Georgiou basically created the resistance in the mirror universe. She also took future tech with her to the past!

    • @OptimusWombat
      @OptimusWombat 3 года назад +2

      On the subject of future tech, there's a fan theory that the reason why subsequent iterations of Star Trek, even those set in the "past", have increasingly advanced technology is due to contamination from time travelers. Which is why the NX-01 and the USS Discovery both look more advanced than the USS Enterprise in TOS (or even the USS Enterprise in the first six movies).

  • @stevegillings5563
    @stevegillings5563 4 года назад +11

    Am goin to miss this bad ass, they needed her when discovery was hijacked.

  • @phigeta
    @phigeta 4 года назад +11

    Imagine Terran philippa would have been send back in time, joined starfleet and become the philippa who died at the hands of the Klingons.
    Now that would have been a damn good character arc end and changed the quality of this series to a Christopher Nolan level.

    • @denizb.4142
      @denizb.4142 4 года назад +1

      Bro, do you know Alex Kurtzman? He is not smart enough to do something like this.

    • @thomas.parnell7365
      @thomas.parnell7365 3 года назад +1

      I love that idea but she would have to appear on baku in the briar patch for a for at least 70 years and live quiet life before become young enough to appear as a cadet as young Philipa and do the rise through ranks to captain. Which her terran up bringing would be useful in spotting chances to rise

  • @AurianWarriorOfDarkness
    @AurianWarriorOfDarkness 4 года назад +12

    and people wanted Michelle(Phillipa) gone so bad im bruh i wish they flushed out her character more before doing this but this was a nice sendoff and im glad she actually learned and even helped Mirror saru whereas in original mirror timeline she ate them

    • @AM.000
      @AM.000 4 года назад +1

      Section 31 is still to be a show right?

  • @paulrward
    @paulrward 3 года назад +8

    " Incoming Wormhole, General . No Authorization Code ! "
    " Close the Iris. "
    ( Thump )

    • @frodobaggins3974
      @frodobaggins3974 3 года назад

      The Guardian of Forever - built by The Ancients?

  • @greatmusicneverdies6253
    @greatmusicneverdies6253 9 месяцев назад +1

    And the stage is set for Georgiou's return in "Section 31". I predict that movie will set the stage for a new Star Trek series!!!
    Funny, you could see this bond developing between Michael and Philippa during Discovery. Combining the best of Captain and Emperor Georgiou, this Philippa is wonderful!!!

  • @RicoSuavae
    @RicoSuavae 7 месяцев назад +2

    The emperor raised children in a harsh universe and reality but the daughter from another universe is the one she always wanted

  • @russell5078084
    @russell5078084 3 года назад +3

    I AM THE GUARDIAN OF FOREVER! I want that as my phone ringtone.

  • @KahaBazaraly
    @KahaBazaraly 3 года назад +3

    We need a show about Philippa!

  • @Victoria-cm4jr
    @Victoria-cm4jr 3 года назад +2

    Georgia is not dead. She was sent into another world . I really loved her. She will return....

  • @frankweber7498
    @frankweber7498 4 года назад +18

    I wonder if we are going to see her again in the discovery series.

    • @AurianWarriorOfDarkness
      @AurianWarriorOfDarkness 4 года назад +3

      probably not since her body is healed upon mirror and prime being connected but she might have a time limit if it seperates at its origin

    • @dejanstarwars10
      @dejanstarwars10 4 года назад +10

      Doubt it. She is gone and I'm really sad now lol.
      But on the bright side, she will get her own show and man am I excited!

    • @UNSF
      @UNSF 4 года назад +2

      @@dejanstarwars10 If anything I think it will still be TOS era where she links up with Ash Tyler and Prime Lorca (every fan wants him back, what is the reason not to?). Some guessed ENT or even First Contact but I think that will be too far back in time which will have still killed her.

    • @adampytlik8453
      @adampytlik8453 4 года назад

      @@dejanstarwars10 wait wut? :D

    • @dejanstarwars10
      @dejanstarwars10 4 года назад +2

      @@adampytlik8453 It's official! She is getting her own show soon. No details yet, except that it will revolve around Section 31.

  • @zrajilic1
    @zrajilic1 4 года назад +8

    We will see Philipa for sure , how the "Carl" the guardian said " i am sending you where the prime time (universe) is aligned with mirror universe . Let say she have to correct something in mirror universe and i think so it will be not a meeting w Vulcans . But something what have to do before plot against her and Lorca escape to prime universe
    To complicate because everyone is mentioning a romulan mining ship

    • @HansWurst-vr3pr
      @HansWurst-vr3pr 4 года назад +2

      Perhaps some while after the first contact, right before founding of earth starfleet, and she will found Section 31 and prevent the controll Thing 🤔

  • @ZenexZe
    @ZenexZe 3 года назад +8

    It is just a theory that I came up with watching the scene. Is it possible that Terran Philipa and the Prime one is the same person? After discovery left the mirror universe, there are many scenes that show her empathy, kindness, and character development. She might got sent back to be the prime Philipa. It’s just my thought tho

    • @LadyAstarionAncunin
      @LadyAstarionAncunin 2 года назад +1

      She's gone to be in Section 31. So, they may say she's Prime Georgiou even though she's not (like they were doing before in Season 2 of Discovery). This version just learned empathy, that's all.

  • @mikeb6902
    @mikeb6902 4 года назад +3

    I always wondered how they could possibly do a Section 31 show with Phillipa, esp if she traveled with discovery to the 32nd century, now that she was sent back, i guess now i know.

  • @TheVampirePredator
    @TheVampirePredator 3 года назад +2

    Here’s the thing. When Georgiou dropped her guard and her ruthless pragmatism, you knew it would be when they had to say goodbye to the character. I knew this in Season 2.
    Hopefully they go through with the spin-off. Maybe it will be about her trying to get the Terran Empire it’s soul back by fighting with the resistance. A good way to bring Lorca back too.

  • @Yoda..
    @Yoda.. 4 года назад +11

    Must have been remarkably difficult for the writers to resist giving this response to Michael: "I know. I'm great." Instead, Michael implies this when she basically says, "you too."

  • @scuttledspatula8837
    @scuttledspatula8837 3 года назад +5

    I didn't want her to go! :(

  • @natekarpowicz7564
    @natekarpowicz7564 3 года назад +7

    If I were Burhamm I would say: You and the Phillipa from my universe are two different people to others. But to me, your both one in the same.

  • @thomasmentch6256
    @thomasmentch6256 Год назад +2

    Even terrans have a emotional side

  • @baiafy
    @baiafy 3 года назад +3

    Haven't really heard anything new about the Section 31 spinoff..hope that happens or they find a way to bring her back. She was my favorite thing about DSC.

  • @videotramp97
    @videotramp97 6 месяцев назад +1

    Georgiou got a good send-off. Wherever and whenever she ended up, we can be sure of this much: She's gonna give 'em hell 😆

  • @drockjr
    @drockjr 3 года назад +2

    Paul Guilfoyle was THE perfect actor for this

  • @mizuxsion
    @mizuxsion 3 года назад +3

    God. This scene was so amazing

  • @KSChong
    @KSChong 4 года назад +15

    Sighs ... one of the biggest reasons I continue to watch Discovery is now gone.

  • @mikehance6086
    @mikehance6086 3 года назад +2

    I like how georgiou changed and became good i hope somehow she comes back for a couple episodes later and somehow has her son husan back

  • @DZPianoMusic
    @DZPianoMusic 2 года назад +4

    I don't understand those who disparage DISCOVERY ... I've watched and enjoyed EVERY Trek series, and EVERY movie ... As Trek fans, I think it's incumbent on all of us to keep an open mind as the Star Trek "universe" grows, and changes, and NOT expect each new series to follow the mold of any prior series ... I bet that's what "the great bird of the galaxy", Gene Roddenberry would have hoped for ... I loved the Burnham-Georgiou relationship ... It had to end sometime, and what a beautiful ending it was ... my wife and I were in tears ...

  • @WilkensBranche
    @WilkensBranche 3 года назад +3

    They should do a 2 season star trek, with philipa.. she would kick ass

  • @chrispeplinski7306
    @chrispeplinski7306 4 года назад +6

    Hopefully Phillippa returns

  • @prongs82
    @prongs82 9 месяцев назад +2

    Of course burham feel emotional. She's parting with her mother.

  • @denizb.4142
    @denizb.4142 4 года назад +8

    It’s CRYING TIME again

    • @tanepukenga1421
      @tanepukenga1421 6 месяцев назад

      Yes, losing a parental figure forever is quite often something humans get upset over. Especially if they've had to do it before.
      People who suppress their emotions in that situation usually end up with abandonment issues.
      I'll never understand why it's fine for Sisko to cry, but not Burnham

  • @joshuaamitai
    @joshuaamitai 3 года назад +4

    its the best startrek ever ! A idea for the future ,star trek TERRAN , with the great phillipa

  • @Stanf954
    @Stanf954 3 года назад +1

    "TIME HAS RESUMED ITS SHAPE. ALL IS AS IT WAS BEFORE. MANY SUCH JOURNEYS ARE POSSIBLE. LET ME BE YOUR GATEWAY."

  • @mangostarch
    @mangostarch 4 года назад +6

    Best mother daughter tag team ever.

  • @gary_rollinson
    @gary_rollinson 7 месяцев назад +1

    Can't wait for the section 31 movie and seeing Philipa I hope it's the Philipa that the guardian of forever sent back.

  • @vinnyc.1265
    @vinnyc.1265 3 года назад +3

    such an incredible scene

  • @robertkennion9020
    @robertkennion9020 3 года назад +1

    So a setup for a spin off show I presume?

  • @naldeshyoshz
    @naldeshyoshz 9 месяцев назад

    Glad to know that Malaysia (some part of it) survived after world War 3 in Star Trek (mirror & prime)

  • @40yearsnopie
    @40yearsnopie 3 года назад +5

    I ship this shit so hard

  • @ers586
    @ers586 3 года назад +3

    I appreciate the notion that we shouldn't judge those who have lived in a profoundly different universe by the same standards as our own. Do we regard the Terran Georgiou as a despot who used her powers to massacre countless helpless and innocent people and deprive others of basic liberties or should we consider the degree in which her character evolved as she began to live in a more ethical Prime universe? This is not a theoretical question. Historians and philosophers still debate whether slaveholding founding fathers like Washington, Jefferson, Madison, and others should be viewed harshly for their role in personally benefitting from the labor of those they enslaves or should we say, different century, different standards? It's a debate on which reasonable people may, but clearly the people behind STD have given us their take.

    • @40yearsnopie
      @40yearsnopie 3 года назад +2

      I think whether or not they are "bad" people isn't what we're supposed to focus on. Instead STD argues that people who have done awful things in the past have the capacity to change. It reminds me of Supergirl, where a lot of this show is reaching out to your enemies can bring peace.

    • @ers586
      @ers586 3 года назад

      @@40yearsnopie I guess it depends upon who the enemy is. We may choose our friends but rarely do we have the option of choosing our enemies.

    • @thomashong2938
      @thomashong2938 Год назад

      If you like the show, don’t refer to it as STD. It’s not a sexually transmitted disease. Use DSC or DIS instead.

    • @thomashong2938
      @thomashong2938 Год назад

      @@40yearsnopie Not STD. Haters call it that. It’s DSC or DIS.

    • @ers586
      @ers586 Год назад

      @@thomashong2938 What do you suggest I call the planet Uranus?

  • @forexed8948
    @forexed8948 3 месяца назад +1

    Michelle Yeoh is an absolute beast, and was the perfect choice for the Terran Emperor Georgiou.

  • @rxn2024
    @rxn2024 4 года назад +3

    Terran Georgiou will get her own series.

    • @Doublebarreledsimian
      @Doublebarreledsimian 4 года назад +1

      All depends on scheduling. Michelle Yeoh's got a role in Marvel's ten rings storyline that starts with Shang Chi. So who knows.

    • @h.seanhsu8965
      @h.seanhsu8965 4 года назад +1

      We were indeed promised a section 31 show

  • @pendarpr
    @pendarpr 3 года назад +1

    Phillipa was the best character in the entire series!!!!!! I hope to see her again, ..maybe in Section 31 Series????

  • @Ithinkiwill66
    @Ithinkiwill66 4 года назад +5

    And then Q comes along.....party time!!!!

    • @walterdayrit675
      @walterdayrit675 4 года назад +5

      Q and his mariachi band!!

    • @Ithinkiwill66
      @Ithinkiwill66 4 года назад +1

      @@walterdayrit675 yes....giving cigars to everyone! RED ALERT! Hhaha!!! 🤣🤣🤣

    • @walterdayrit675
      @walterdayrit675 4 года назад

      @@Ithinkiwill66 Well, Q often conjures up some um.... entertaining women soooo....😏

  • @dltmdwnfkdldjs
    @dltmdwnfkdldjs 4 года назад +3

    we lost amazing character. hope she comes back

    • @dmanc85
      @dmanc85 4 года назад

      She's getting her own Section 31 series.

  • @mervynanip9925
    @mervynanip9925 3 года назад +1

    will we be seeing Phillipa again?

  • @nolanwhite1876
    @nolanwhite1876 4 года назад +10

    Georgiou will get sent back in time, not only to give rise to the events that will become the stories of the Section 31 series, but also early enough that when those events wrap up, and she's evolved as a character, she'll be given command of the USS Shenzhou.
    Revealing that Mirror Universe Phillipa Georgiou and the Prime version were always one in the same, just at different points in their life, and in adjustment to the prime universe and star fleet/federation life.
    As well, Captain Pike, Serek, and a few others would have always known this, But "The Emperor" will learn this as an "official back story", including "life in the academy" are fabricated to cover for her true origins when dealing with anyone else not in the circle of knowledge, including when dealing with the younger iteration of of Georgiou during the events of the end of the Klingon/Federation War, up to Control.
    She will also feel obligated to watch over, and mentor the younger Michael Burnham of that timeline, not only out of sentiment, for both versions that she knew, but also for the sake of maintaining the future timeline, even if it means her end, in the events that are Discovery's pilot episode.
    Maybe she knows that she's slowing dying anyways from her crossover condition, which could explain why she doesn't display the physical abilities as "The Captain" that she once had as "The Emperor", and saw this as a good, and more meaningful way to go than just waiting it out, as trying to change anything would only make things worse. Even more than if Klingons ate her corpse after, as it would affect the timeline which could have negative effects on her condition . *Shrugs*
    It could also explain why she saves Saru from his world when he called out to the stars.
    Not only doing it to preserve the timeline, but because she has seen his potential from a time that hasn't happened yet for any body else, that she has visited. A sharp contrast to her long abandoned belief about Kelpians.

    • @blackrahk2037
      @blackrahk2037 4 года назад

      BRUH What?! There has to be a PRIME AND MIRROR representation. cant have a one sided coin.

    • @nolanwhite1876
      @nolanwhite1876 4 года назад

      @@blackrahk2037 Do the writers care so much about that though? At least when it comes to a single character, who's meant to have "unique" characteristics?
      We could just as easily find out that we never knew the Prime Universe Georgiou and they did exist for a time, but died long before they could enter Star Fleet Academy.
      Meaning that there was a Prime Universe counterpart, but the version that we knew through out was still all from the Mirror Universe just taking on the role of someone from the Prime Universe after dealing with the Guardian of Tomorrow and Section 31.

    • @mitchellmelkin4078
      @mitchellmelkin4078 3 года назад

      Nolan White, Very well thought out exegesis there, save one salient fact. There's not going to be a Section 31 series. There's simply no demand for it (nor has there ever been) based on the pitiful ratings that the network has tried to conceal for as long as possible, for every show in the Prime Universe. Also, importantly, there's no money for such a creation without a ready provider of international distribution rights. Frankly, you'll be lucky to see much, if any, of SNW, let alone this fantasy. By all means, though, I've no desire to dissuade anyone from enjoying what's left, for as long as CBS/Viacom can stave off crying uncle.

  • @DennisMoore664
    @DennisMoore664 3 года назад +2

    "Before you run out of time"
    But isn't that the Guardian of Forever? No running out of time when you have that thing next to you.

  • @chandyoclock4758
    @chandyoclock4758 4 года назад +4

    I kind of wonder what will happen due to the changes in the time line by returning her back to the point of where the universes were alligned. If she changes the past events for example:
    Lorca escaping to the other universe. (He selected the dicovery crew based on the dobbelgangers who were loyal to him in the mirror verse)
    Michael joining discovery
    The incidents that lead to a functioning spore drive etc....
    The butterfly effect would be massive.

    • @SeansModelBuilds
      @SeansModelBuilds 4 года назад +1

      What if the changes she makes restore the Prime TOS Enterprise?

  • @TwistedSecrets777
    @TwistedSecrets777 4 года назад +5

    waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa im gonna miss her

  • @ryanjackson1143
    @ryanjackson1143 4 года назад +2

    The Vulcan Goodbye

  • @johnmendoza6838
    @johnmendoza6838 3 года назад +3

    I hope season 4 some essence of Phillipa will be present. Maybe she leaves a message for discovery to be delivered after she left. Or created an organization that will help discovery in the future.

  • @stevegillings5563
    @stevegillings5563 4 года назад

    The exit is a prelude to her on the Section 31 Show which will be rolled out.

    • @mitchellmelkin4078
      @mitchellmelkin4078 3 года назад

      Steve Gillings, There's no evidence of that happening, whatsoever. I'm not about to debate the virtues of any of the programs generated by individuals who openly professed their disdain for the franchise. The plain truth is that there never has been anything more than a very limited, if devoted, audience for Kurtzman Trek and without any money coming from international distribution rights, anything more than a short-term future for this regime, isn't in the cards, thankfully.

  • @danielshottopics8187
    @danielshottopics8187 4 года назад

    ''Tell the People your about to meet Now'' Yeah tell the people who've been Dead for Centuries about San.

  • @danielshottopics8187
    @danielshottopics8187 4 года назад

    ''Tell the People your about to meet'' Yeah tell the People who have been Dead for Centuries.

  • @DanielBrongers
    @DanielBrongers 4 года назад +1

    I am kinda confused: why isn't the crew of the Discovery trying to find a way to go back to the past?

    • @mitchellmelkin4078
      @mitchellmelkin4078 3 года назад

      Alternately, because the program's future is on very thin ice.

  • @internetperson573
    @internetperson573 8 месяцев назад

    Spoil it for me is she going back to pike’s time? Is that how she appears in the section 31 movie?

  • @AWriterWandering
    @AWriterWandering 4 года назад +2

    So the Guardian was just messing with Kirk and Spock when it said it couldn't stop at one point in time?

    • @h.seanhsu8965
      @h.seanhsu8965 4 года назад +1

      The guardian has gotten a lot wiser in 900 years.

    • @OptimusWombat
      @OptimusWombat 3 года назад

      @@h.seanhsu8965 That's a pretty major leap in its evolution if it couldn't do that in the previous billion years.

    • @h.seanhsu8965
      @h.seanhsu8965 3 года назад +1

      @@OptimusWombat a time war and all the horrendous things that comes with it will do that to everyone.

    • @OptimusWombat
      @OptimusWombat 3 года назад

      @@h.seanhsu8965 you're assuming that's the only time war that's ever occurred though.

    • @h.seanhsu8965
      @h.seanhsu8965 3 года назад +1

      @@OptimusWombat adding to that, the temporal war of 30th century probably spanned several millennia form the Guardians perspective. That ought to be enough to want to do things differently.

  • @danielshottopics8187
    @danielshottopics8187 10 месяцев назад

    Section 31 Movie Just Started Production on Tuesday January 30th 2024 Finally we will Find out where the Guardian Sent Phillipa Soon Enough.

  • @fabriciooliveira1564
    @fabriciooliveira1564 2 года назад

    até agora não consigo intender para onde Philippa foi sei que foi para um universo onde o espelhado e a linha do tempo ainda não se encontraram mais oq isso quer dizer

  • @darthnarodnik
    @darthnarodnik Год назад

    After watching Georgiou die and then seeing her go back to the past is when I gave up on DIS. Michelle Yeoh owned it.

  • @stevkyt2374
    @stevkyt2374 4 года назад

    Amazing how this isn't taken down for copyright infringement or did you pay them off?

    • @40yearsnopie
      @40yearsnopie 3 года назад

      The ads at the beginning are money going to the copyright holder not the video poster. It's how people can have stuff like this on youtube

  • @BaronClam
    @BaronClam 4 года назад +1

    Where is the DHD

  • @serina3872
    @serina3872 4 года назад

    I hope we still get to here about the temporal war

  • @Knightfall182
    @Knightfall182 4 года назад +11

    🤮 Laying it on thick with the Michael praise again, but also basically confirming she will be Captain soon. I suspect Saru will get Vance's job.

    • @austrone8586
      @austrone8586 4 года назад +7

      Like vance will die in a battle against the chain kinda like that Admiral in Season 1 of that shitty looking ship the Europa. But I like vance he is a nice admiral unlike those admirals in tng hahahahhaha, but I'm thinking that this is an unsanctioned mission and that saru will be reprimanded by the admiral of course since Tilly is first officer she gonna take that seat but she wouldn't so Michael will take the seat

    • @h.seanhsu8965
      @h.seanhsu8965 4 года назад +1

      @@austrone8586 well this mission did have the Admiral’s blessing.
      After the briefing the Admiral did pull Saru aside and told him “if one of your crew is drowning and you don’t anything about it, your crew will never look at you the same, and yourself ,too, probably for the rest of your life”

  • @Sdeburca2012
    @Sdeburca2012 3 года назад +1

    If the creates of ST: Discovery were smart they would start a spin off following This Phillipa Greorgo in the Terren Universe!!!!

  • @auroraprs9133
    @auroraprs9133 8 месяцев назад +1

    I loved her why they got rid of her

  • @danielshottopics8187
    @danielshottopics8187 10 месяцев назад

    We Now Enter Day 16 of Section 31 Filming.

  • @natalie6496
    @natalie6496 2 года назад

    but where did she go and what happened to her there? weird

  • @KennethHopkins
    @KennethHopkins 5 месяцев назад

    It’s amazing to see the vulcan influence on the civilisation of the future depicted by gene Roddenberry and Ketan Shah tried to imagine this in captain vyom starring #milindsoman but failed to show a future where indocentricity was the global norm because a global varna system falls into place eventually which is what #positivebhramanicalindocentricity is all about.

  • @andytay5507
    @andytay5507 4 года назад

    why did the gateway disappear?

    • @laggedoff
      @laggedoff 3 года назад

      because the guardian of forever is hiding.

  • @OptimusWombat
    @OptimusWombat 3 года назад +1

    What bugs me is that when we originally saw the Guardian in TOS, it was unable to send a traveler to the precise time and place they wanted, which would have saved Kirk a lot of grief had it been able to. But it's able to do that here.

    • @seymssogood
      @seymssogood 2 года назад +2

      Perhaps the Guardian learned to do that in the ~ 900 years since TOS. Also, the temporal wars may have acted as a shortcut to doing things it hadn't done before.

    • @FLAME4564
      @FLAME4564 Год назад

      @@seymssogood Indeed and as stated 900 years before the temporal wars flared up and forced the Guardian to go into hiding to avoid being discovered and falling into enemy hands.