@@Omar20v yeah, exactly, there's a bunch of reasons the SCAR is being phased out or outright dropped by the various divisions of the military that used it. Not the least of which was taking nearly a decade to make it stop attacking thumbs 🤦
@@letsgobrandon416 Except it's not. Only the 5.56 version was discontinued, as it did nothing more than the M-4/M-16 for the price. As for the "thumb thing" it really isn't an issue, and it was something requested by the military.
This gun was supposed to COMPLETELY replace the M4 in the military and it flopped so ofc they’re turning to the civilian market to make some of their money back
Really curious when the 6.5CM variant is coming out. Was a dream to shoot at Freedom Days. Finally... 1 year after :) Glad to see it's out in the wild!
Itll probably be used in specific elements, but wont replace as the infantry rifle. While its a good design, it wont work for general infantry use. The m4 carbine is extremely hard to beat for reliability in all conditions.
BTW it would never be called the M5, since Colt had already trademarked that name. Hence the change in designation from XM5 to XM7. (Why they skipped XM6, who knows?)
Reviewing the online gun stores, listings of this bad boy are currently asking approximately $7000.00. Let me say that again, $7000.00. The average working man will not be able to add this guy to the collection anytime soon. Oh my God! It's insane. Sure costs will drop in time, but $7000.00? Seriously?
"The average working man" wouldn't want this rifle in it's current state anyway. It will likely have many iterative changes and modifications to important components as all modern SIG Sauer products do.
I completely agree with you. I planned on purchasing one until I came across the price tag. You would think the reliability would be legendary with a price tag of 7k. But they’re claiming this weapon is extremely flawed. Not to mention the program is doomed
How many times have we heard Sig promise conversion kits for their guns? I bought my MPX 8 years ago and im still waiting on a 357 Sig conversion.......
I would ask for someone to please explain why they would wait to release the civilian commercial version in 6.8/.277 when they already have all that tooling and manufacturing implements in place? Why would they release the other calibers first when they have already made a bunch of the 6.8 versions? I am sure they have their reasons but it does not make sense to me.
2 reasons: 1: 6.8/.277 is a brand new cartridge that's extremely expensive and rare to acquire. Making it available in .308, especially with how easily convertible it is to 6.8 later down the road makes it attractive to more people 2: Their 6.8 manufacturing line is most likely prioritizing their military contract right now
I remember hearing that the side charger is only part of the weapon because that's what big military wanted. It does look cool though. There are a lot of other battle rifle platforms that have side chargers too with better price tags. Scar 17, Galil Ace, Apc308, Bren 2 Br, etc...
The side charger isn't that awesome actually...it is very hard to pull so when prone you are like getting cramps and tearing your rotator cuff trying to rack the thing and you can't see what's going on in the chamber area...I use the T charging handle 94% of the time
@@ryansilvia1264 yes, I agree with the stock being small. The receiver though still looks way bigger than an AR10. I imagine it’s because of the the extra pressure from the new military round. I could be wrong.
Idk if it’s the price, sig beta testing on customers, not delivering on caliber conversions or what but I don’t think I’ve ever been less interested in a new gun
Picked up a Spear LT recently. Would love to grab the big boy Spear if nothing else, to T&E. Definitely seem to have some winners on your hands as of lately.
Why do you guys keep putting that tiny magpul stock on the gun? It just doesn't look right. Put a normal sized stock on there and this rifle would be incredibly cool looking. TRUST ME, LOOKING COOL IS 80% OF THE BATTLE.
Did you fix the issue with ejection where lefties get a mouthful of brass? I mean ambi is nice and all but when I tested the M5 with 277 Fury, when I went weak side the brass left marks on my face.
@@TrollinCrazyRussian I'd prefer they just fix the ejection but I'm not interested in getting one. It is fun to shoot but the balance sucks as it is stupidly front heavy
@@znutar consider this, pressure different between civilian 277 fury and military 6.8x51 would change ejection pattern just like dog water tula 233 vs hot m855 or mk262 in ar15.
@@TrollinCrazyRussian I was using their brass range ammo and their medium spec 277 (not the full yeet military rounds) so that suggests that the full military strength cartridge would have even worse problems. Considering I was using Sig ammo in a Sig gun you would think it would be tuned to work properly with it. Having shot the gun and a fair few rounds on full auto, the brass deflector design is just plain deficient.
I was wondering something. When they talk about the MCX-Spear LT, they say you can use different kind of triggers. But nobody is talking about the MCX-Spear if it will be possible aswell?
If you are referring to a price of $7K, that is what the price was last year when SIG offered this rifle from its 1st production run and made a bundle that included a suppressor and scope.
You should make a LITE version where there is no ambi stuff no side charging handle no bolt assist button. and please couldn't you make a little more slimmer handguard?
CRS is a glue sniffing windbag who simply has a hate boner for the rifle. The entire story that it's being dropped is 100% fake and is literally the opposite of what's happening.
Expect stuff like the M7-SPEAR to appear more in FPS games down the line as the go-to rifle of choice for Allied forces (mainly the U.S.). It's already in the newer Battlefield and CoD games as a usable weapon, alongside the new Delta Force game.
I was so excited for that side charging handle. I couldn’t wait for you to drop a 556 version of the Spear. Then you guys drop one without the main feature that I was excited about. I’m still so mad and disappointed about that.
Sig only added the side charger because that's what the military wanted. I don't like t handles either but it probably would have added more weight and bulk.
@@jakebailey5537 A quick google will prove I am in fact correct, as the specifications of the round PSI, Grain, BALL, etc are the same on both. Actually, ironically it's even called 6.8x51mm SIG Fury on the announcement website.
@Dick Izzinya The specifications of the round PSI, Grain, BALL, etc are the same on both. Actually, ironically it's even called 6.8x51mm SIG Fury on the announcement website.
So… the military abandons the gun like the Scar, and now Sig turns to the civilians but charges super pricing of: $7,000! No rebate on the tax stamps, no discounts, no alternative methods, just… $7,000 with a year+ wait. Fuck. That.
First and foremost, this gun has a LOT of new features! Let me tell you about them: This thing can fire bullets out the front!!!! Now that would be 7000$ pls.
Except the MCX's are doing very bad in Army testing. The fail the mud test after 1 round, and don't fare much better in the other tests. Def NOT a SHTF rifle yet
Remember Sig Sauer, you already have huge market share so capturing the entire market by mass producing this fantastic firearm in the superior .277 FURY round at affordable prices will solidify your position as the number 1 rifle in the world! With that being said, am I correct in saying you can purchase this rifle in .308 and switch to .277 FURY with a simple barrel change? If so, how much will this .277 barrel cost?
I adjust the stock away from the receiver a cpl postions and push the button and pull up on buffer tube and it releases...mine is unusually hard as well...after playing w it alot it has loosened up some
I see, the army scrapped it due to all the issues with it, so now your trying to dump it onto the civilian market? Also, please do explain what makes this a $6k rifle? We know there are going to be recalls after this comes out.
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For the low low price of 6100 dollars I will be definitely grabbing this in twenty years.
Lol with Sig’s lack of production, might be longer
Wow, dropped 3900 already!
Wow, that is some major BS. Pass.
Even new ak74 only 600 usd
It'll probably be a distant memory or museum piece by then lol
Making a SCAR look like a great deal. I like the strategy.
The scar is more hype than anything else
SCAR making XCR look like a great deal.
@@Omar20v yeah, exactly, there's a bunch of reasons the SCAR is being phased out or outright dropped by the various divisions of the military that used it. Not the least of which was taking nearly a decade to make it stop attacking thumbs 🤦
@@RonJeremy514 XCR making an AR-15 or AR-10 look like a great deal.
@@letsgobrandon416 Except it's not. Only the 5.56 version was discontinued, as it did nothing more than the M-4/M-16 for the price. As for the "thumb thing" it really isn't an issue, and it was something requested by the military.
One thing I love about Sig is that anything they make for the military they offer to the civvie market as well.
Yeah, so. This video dropped the day after the army said they won't be buying these in large numbers. Take from that what you will.
@Dick Izzinya they don't issue official statements on not buying something they spent billions on. They just......don't adopt it.
@@ronaldholverson257 the Army is famous for that. Been doing it since the HK spacegun in the 70’s
@@kevspss it should be a crime
This gun was supposed to COMPLETELY replace the M4 in the military and it flopped so ofc they’re turning to the civilian market to make some of their money back
Remember when the SIG MCX only cost $1776?
Pepperidge Farms remembers...
Stay classy my friends.
😂😂😂
what does pepperidge farms mean?
@@builtdifferent244 its a meme from family guy
@@builtdifferent244 boomer alert
I absolutely love the MCX and I have been dying for one in 308 but 277 has my heart now and I want it.
@SlG_SAUERscam
You’re a sucker for marketing arent ya
You wanna burn barrels after 800 shots lol
@@Hurleytube I'm a nobbie. Can you explain?
@@Hurleytube yup I’ll buy any extra barrel just in case
"oh sht, we better get on that civilian marketing campaign" lmao.
Really curious when the 6.5CM variant is coming out. Was a dream to shoot at Freedom Days. Finally... 1 year after :)
Glad to see it's out in the wild!
When it comes to owning the best rifles i wish I am an American.
I was the first person to buy one of these from the sig center, it’s great.
Upload a video
@@eddyflo2978 I’m not terribly camera friendly. I’ll probably put some pics on Reddit at some point.
This is such a masterpiece!
Can't wait to buy an HKMR762. Thanks SIG!
This is so awesome, love it
No Question, This is Majestic🙌
Great video taught me everything I needed to know. Thank you
Interesting timing as the US Army just announced that the M5 NGSW is effectively on hiatus.
Its time for the civilians to buy the gun
Oof hahaha
Itll probably be used in specific elements, but wont replace as the infantry rifle. While its a good design, it wont work for general infantry use. The m4 carbine is extremely hard to beat for reliability in all conditions.
BTW it would never be called the M5, since Colt had already trademarked that name. Hence the change in designation from XM5 to XM7.
(Why they skipped XM6, who knows?)
@@sigspearthumb3249 There was already rifles called the M6. From LWRC I believe.
Looking forward to going to the Epping store this week, as a lefty i much Appreciate the Ambie controls.
Reviewing the online gun stores, listings of this bad boy are currently asking approximately $7000.00. Let me say that again, $7000.00. The average working man will not be able to add this guy to the collection anytime soon. Oh my God! It's insane. Sure costs will drop in time, but $7000.00? Seriously?
It goes for 4200-4400. Lol you're a goober if you thought this was not gonna be a few thousand to begin with. It's on Par with rifles in its category
This rifle wasn't meant for the average working man to buy lmao
"The average working man" wouldn't want this rifle in it's current state anyway. It will likely have many iterative changes and modifications to important components as all modern SIG Sauer products do.
I completely agree with you. I planned on purchasing one until I came across the price tag. You would think the reliability would be legendary with a price tag of 7k. But they’re claiming this weapon is extremely flawed. Not to mention the program is doomed
H&K looking!!!
“Hey, I’m sure we can get away with charging $14000 for our rifles!” 🤔
Genius!!!!
The Civilian Version! Very Nice!
Can’t wait!😊
How many times have we heard Sig promise conversion kits for their guns? I bought my MPX 8 years ago and im still waiting on a 357 Sig conversion.......
I would ask for someone to please explain why they would wait to release the civilian commercial version in 6.8/.277 when they already have all that tooling and manufacturing implements in place? Why would they release the other calibers first when they have already made a bunch of the 6.8 versions? I am sure they have their reasons but it does not make sense to me.
2 reasons:
1: 6.8/.277 is a brand new cartridge that's extremely expensive and rare to acquire. Making it available in .308, especially with how easily convertible it is to 6.8 later down the road makes it attractive to more people
2: Their 6.8 manufacturing line is most likely prioritizing their military contract right now
Just did a review on the sig spear lt can’t wait until I can get my hands on this one too!
A side charging handing would be the only reason i get this over an AR10. I hate T handles with a passion.
I remember hearing that the side charger is only part of the weapon because that's what big military wanted. It does look cool though. There are a lot of other battle rifle platforms that have side chargers too with better price tags. Scar 17, Galil Ace, Apc308, Bren 2 Br, etc...
Just get a JP side charging rifle. It’s the top end rifle to get.
@Dick Izzinya i dont like having to break my target picture for minor tap rack issues. The T handle cant be used while on target.
The side charger isn't that awesome actually...it is very hard to pull so when prone you are like getting cramps and tearing your rotator cuff trying to rack the thing and you can't see what's going on in the chamber area...I use the T charging handle 94% of the time
Looks great, I can imagine shoots great too.
That looks so SIG (sick)
Sure do hope Sig Air makes a GBB airsoft variant of this
I would buy 5
They will make millions selling all over the world. Excellent idea and promoting the actual rifle. XM7.
*SIG SAUER, Inc* Bravo well done, thank-you sir for taking the time to show us. GOD Bless.
7k but yah still want one.
Will y’all have 8.6 blackout barrels in the future for it ?
It's nice to finally see rifle manufacturers start thinking of us left handed shooters
Is there any chance the side charging handle will be implemented in the 5.56/.300blk version of the MCX?
That gun is enormous!
The stock is smaller than a normal ar15 stock which makes it look way bigger than it really is
@@ryansilvia1264 yes, I agree with the stock being small. The receiver though still looks way bigger than an AR10. I imagine it’s because of the the extra pressure from the new military round. I could be wrong.
Bigger than an M4, way way smaller than the M1 Garand which it it equals in performance.
@@bmrz38 its bigger than an ar10, but just barley. Not enough to make a meaningful difference
@@ryansilvia1264 sounds good, thanks.
Idk if it’s the price, sig beta testing on customers, not delivering on caliber conversions or what but I don’t think I’ve ever been less interested in a new gun
any plans for a gas plug with a couple more settings to work better with traditional style suppressors?
This thing is actually 🔥🔥
Picked up a Spear LT recently. Would love to grab the big boy Spear if nothing else, to T&E. Definitely seem to have some winners on your hands as of lately.
from who, cant find one anywhere.....
True, they aren't bairly out
The Spear LT shoots 2 MOA with 77gr OTM. That's not a winner
SIG MCX SPEAR 308 ver vs FN SCAR 17 which one is better ?
Pump those numbers up!
Can't find any, and the few I've seen were $4500 no Fn way.
Why do you guys keep putting that tiny magpul stock on the gun? It just doesn't look right. Put a normal sized stock on there and this rifle would be incredibly cool looking. TRUST ME, LOOKING COOL IS 80% OF THE BATTLE.
Thats what I keep saying. I think a B5 Systems Sopmod Enhanced stock would make it look more balanced.
Probably so it doesn't stick out when it's folded.
I think it looks cool, might not feel great though
Is there any chance für a 308 Barrel lenth around/over 20?
I want one, hurry up sig and deliver these to the stores.
There’s some on gunbroker now, but you’ll pay gunbroker prices
But can it penetrate Shil'vati armour?
Did you fix the issue with ejection where lefties get a mouthful of brass? I mean ambi is nice and all but when I tested the M5 with 277 Fury, when I went weak side the brass left marks on my face.
If you get one putting a stick on brass defector rubber product should change brass angle to eject farther forward.
@@TrollinCrazyRussian I'd prefer they just fix the ejection but I'm not interested in getting one. It is fun to shoot but the balance sucks as it is stupidly front heavy
@@znutar consider this, pressure different between civilian 277 fury and military 6.8x51 would change ejection pattern just like dog water tula 233 vs hot m855 or mk262 in ar15.
@@TrollinCrazyRussian I was using their brass range ammo and their medium spec 277 (not the full yeet military rounds) so that suggests that the full military strength cartridge would have even worse problems. Considering I was using Sig ammo in a Sig gun you would think it would be tuned to work properly with it. Having shot the gun and a fair few rounds on full auto, the brass deflector design is just plain deficient.
@@znutar sound right.
MCX-SPEAR: for civilians with a US Military budget
Can you cut the gas off completely effectively turning it into a bolt action using the side charger?
Where do I buy it and can I buy 3?
Nice! How about spare parts? Hopefully it won't suffer from permanent - "out of stock" and "no longer available" viruses.
Like the original 716!
The SIG logo looks exactly like the TSM logo 🪖
I hope the price comes down, but I like it. Would like to have one in 277 fury.
Is this a limited production run or is it going to be continuous?
Is this damage control after that Army Times article dropped?
That was just an opinion piece
@@sbuyce1 I mean we can't prove a negative so time will tell.
They need to sell the upper with side charger for the spear lts
Yep definitely getting it! But holy shit, that price tag though 👀
If you are seeing $7K as a price, that is what the limited edition first production run bundle price was last year.
It’ll be under 4 grand in a few months, similar to a scar..
Most of us would be better served keeping our M4s and getting night vision or thermals.
@@musicman1eanda 7000 dollar noght vision in the day. 😑👍
A giant car laser sounds more practical
I was wondering something. When they talk about the MCX-Spear LT, they say you can use different kind of triggers. But nobody is talking about the MCX-Spear if it will be possible aswell?
Sig Attempting to recover a disrespected customer base.
Sour butter on burnt toast is not going to cut it.
This is way more expensive than LMT MARS-H， SCAR17S NRCH (and 20S)， and even HK MR762A1!
Is Sig's new 308 trying to compete with KAC SR-25 now?😅
If you are referring to a price of $7K, that is what the price was last year when SIG offered this rifle from its 1st production run and made a bundle that included a suppressor and scope.
Damn that's crazy, if only it wasn't outrageously expensive
I’m glad I bought a Vertis a few years ago
You should make a LITE version where there is no ambi stuff no side charging handle no bolt assist button. and please couldn't you make a little more slimmer handguard?
So… CRS firearms has been making numerous videos that the Army dropped the rifle is that true also I want one in 7.62NATO
CRS is a glue sniffing windbag who simply has a hate boner for the rifle. The entire story that it's being dropped is 100% fake and is literally the opposite of what's happening.
Expect stuff like the M7-SPEAR to appear more in FPS games down the line as the go-to rifle of choice for Allied forces (mainly the U.S.).
It's already in the newer Battlefield and CoD games as a usable weapon, alongside the new Delta Force game.
There is no place on earth where this should cost 6,000 dollars for a base model rifle. I love Sig products but this price point is ridiculous.
Don't worry guys. I'm sure they will offer a 10 dollar off coupon real soon
Is this a military version or civilian version?
Yeah until you say you're shipping the 277 Fury/6.8x51 model, I'll wait. I am curious if the hybrid 80,000psi ammo will run in the commercial Spear
So much win
They should have just gone for a 6.5 creedmore AR. But being practical is too much to expect from the Pentagon.
Lo mejor de lo mejor que arma tan completa ..
MCX
So it’s a heavy ar-10 in a weird caliber with an FAL charging handle and gas adjustment system for the price of a car
The timing on this one is hilarious.
I was so excited for that side charging handle. I couldn’t wait for you to drop a 556 version of the Spear. Then you guys drop one without the main feature that I was excited about. I’m still so mad and disappointed about that.
Sig only added the side charger because that's what the military wanted. I don't like t handles either but it probably would have added more weight and bulk.
What about the new, as I know them as, 6.8mm NATO rounds? will those fit as well since they are the same length as a .308 and 7.5 Creedmore?
Any plans to sell with a 16" barrel already installed so it's not an nfa item?
What components were changed from the XM7? Can it handle full-fat military 6.8x51 ammo or just the lower pressure 277 Fury?
6.8x51 and .277 FURY are the same round/caliber just different names. They are the same pressures, bullet, velocity, etc.
@@Kijiko_ they are not the same
@@jakebailey5537 A quick google will prove I am in fact correct, as the specifications of the round PSI, Grain, BALL, etc are the same on both. Actually, ironically it's even called 6.8x51mm SIG Fury on the announcement website.
@Dick Izzinya The specifications of the round PSI, Grain, BALL, etc are the same on both. Actually, ironically it's even called 6.8x51mm SIG Fury on the announcement website.
@@Kijiko_ sig does not sell 6.8x51 full pressure rounds to the public. The .277 brass rounds are essentially practice ammo.
does this mean 5.56 price will go down
why this gun doesnt have a barrel stabilizer?
For such a chonky boi, it's weird that they went with the Magpul SL-K PDW stock.
for tacticool opor8ors or some shit
Anti-snag model coming?
So… the military abandons the gun like the Scar, and now Sig turns to the civilians but charges super pricing of: $7,000! No rebate on the tax stamps, no discounts, no alternative methods, just… $7,000 with a year+ wait. Fuck. That.
What does it do that AR-10 for $2k does not?
I Can’t wait! Only 6,999 more dollars to save up for that beautiful work of art.
Plus TAX.
that is what the bundle price was last year when they sold a limited number of 1st production run rifles.
First and foremost, this gun has a LOT of new features! Let me tell you about them:
This thing can fire bullets out the front!!!!
Now that would be 7000$ pls.
This with a WC sfx9 is a set up i would like to have. Perfect for shtf.
Except the MCX's are doing very bad in Army testing. The fail the mud test after 1 round, and don't fare much better in the other tests. Def NOT a SHTF rifle yet
Remember Sig Sauer, you already have huge market share so capturing the entire market by mass producing this fantastic firearm in the superior .277 FURY round at affordable prices will solidify your position as the number 1 rifle in the world! With that being said, am I correct in saying you can purchase this rifle in .308 and switch to .277 FURY with a simple barrel change? If so, how much will this .277 barrel cost?
can you remove the muzzle device and use something different?
Yes
The rifle weighs 10.5 lbs in military standard carbine configuration, before optics, with suppressor.
want one but ill have to wait for the 277 version i guess
could just get it now and then buy the conversion kit to .277 when it comes out.
@@andrewschliewe6392 Learn from the Remington Acr, those kits might never come out.
@@MagicalTrout all the kit will be is a barrel and bolt. Just like the current MCX conversion kits.
@@andrewschliewe6392 yeah
(Idea) 8.6 blk version
Nice very impressive 👍🏻
Is the Site (the binocular) installed backwards in the opposite direction?
I genuinely do not understand your question what I might be able to help you I just need a little more clarification
No, it's an Lvpo, they look like that.
@@wastelandgentleman I thought the Scope was mounted in the opposite direction
Anyone else having trouble with the folding stock? I just bought one and can't get it back into the folding position.
I adjust the stock away from the receiver a cpl postions and push the button and pull up on buffer tube and it releases...mine is unusually hard as well...after playing w it alot it has loosened up some
How’s that government contract going Sig?
But will it be coming in Air Rifle / Airsoft 🤔 SigAir
Pressuring Joe. If he won't buy them, we'll just sell them to the civilians 😄
Nice Ares watch 😏
I want one. What optic is that?
Great. Now if only these things aren't like 2800 bucks retail in the stores I've seen them in.
How about just focusing on making enough 5.56 MCX rifles and pistols that everyone who wants one, can buy one?
I see, the army scrapped it due to all the issues with it, so now your trying to dump it onto the civilian market? Also, please do explain what makes this a $6k rifle? We know there are going to be recalls after this comes out.
It's not the M5 but the M7 NGSW