Robin is really the only one that annoys me by their lack of haki. Since she's a physical fighter who doesn't rely on creating new tech or tricks for upgrades. Even Brook has his music and astral form to give him an edge. But the biggest part is that she was with Dragon and Sabo for two years, some of the best teachers she could have. The overpowered argument I don't really get since having basic haki wouldn't automatically make her stronger than Zoro and Sanji.
well i think demonio has a bit of haki plus she did some fishman karate, so maybe she needs a bit more training cause if i remember correctly, sabo wanted to teach her haki while koala and the fishman dude wanted to show her fishman karate, so maybe she has a start and we don't know it yet
You guys think Robin, the person who had to be convinced to add more to her fighting style, really cares for learning Haki? When it comes to the Haki chat, I think people forget that different character personalities and motivations play a role as to why they have/don't have Haki
I genuinely think she already has hakim but it waiting to utilize it properly... it just makes no sense for her not to at this point after her demonio backstory
I think Brook needs observation more, his whole thing is protecting his afro and he can't even sense incoming attacks, plus he's really fast so he'd be cracked
It’s actually still left in the air what that form is exactly. I’m still on the boat that she will showcase Haki but Demonio Fleur is different than all of her other abilities as her physical body bloomed into a being 2x the size of Black Maria who was already as tall as Kaido. She was able to bloom multiple giant limbs to subdue Maria as well. She also had this dark aura surrounding her as if her will as the Devil Child itself bloomed.
If anything this showcases her power even more as she is the most versatile next to Luffy and Brook with Fishman karate that Jinbei could always assist with.
Isn’t it weird that Robin *didn’t* learn Haki when she was training with the Revolutionary Army during the timeskip, since she interacted with and learned from people like Sabo who do have it?
Sanji didn't get Armament on Gay Island .. otherwise fighting Vergo wouldn't of shattered his bones. Doesn't develop untill almost whole cake Island if I remember correctly
Tbh I feel like during their fights with the Flying 6 at Wano was the perfect time to have characters like Nami and Franky awaken observation and armament haki respectively but now I feel like that was a missed opportunity, idk if anyone else agrees
Definitely agree. It's really dumb that the Straw Hats are a Yonko crew and yet if Franky, Robin, Brook, Usopp, Nami or Chopper faced a bum like Caribou they would lose
I was CERTAIN that this was going to happen. I made bets, made stock investments and everything because I was certain that was going to be a huge turning point for the Straw Hats to each get stronger and become haki users. It's safe to say I was dead wrong....but at least i was right about Zoro getting Conquerors Haki 😂.
@gamefreak2050 There were a lot of missed opportunities in Wano(plenty of good ones, hence why I call it a "mid" arc, middle of the road) but this to me was one of the largest missed opportunities. Considering Oda was having Luffy, Zorro and Sanji train, why didn't the other Straw Hats trained? You could have tied the concept of Haki, ambition and willpower, into the weakling trio, Nami, Chopper, and Usopp, showcased how their resolve towards helping Luffy succeed no matter what transmits into their Haki powers, and have that tangibly represented in them besting the foes they fought.And really, I hate to say this; it makes it hard for me to accept that they are all a Yonkou caliber crew in terms of strength. I normally do not care much for power-scaling, but at this point in the series where the Straw Hats are one of the four pillars of the pirate world, they should be capable and strong. And Haki, as Oda has emphasized literally with Kaidou vs Luffy, should have been showcased. Sure, it could happen latter on and cool but man, Wano was right there and Oda fumbled on this part.
Usopp used his haki in Wano. While still on the Thousand Sunny while infiltrating Onigashima, Usopp is shown sensing something he cannot see. He takes out a watchman iirc.
I fully believe that Nani has always had observation, she was able to detect the zombies in hogback’s mansion from “the weather”. “Emotional damage” against luffy may also be a subtle hint at armament disguised as a gag.
i agree with the observation part, however, the emotional damage for me is a showcase of the actual devil fruit of Luffy. He is terrified of Nami so she can actually hurt him jaja
@@obtusem5015 well 1) luffy probably also believes she can hurt them and 2) luffy is only immune from being punched because he's a rubber dude. zoro and sanji are durable as hell, but being punched probably still hurts.
Observation Haki comes in many forms and sometimes we don't even realize when ghey are using it it. Like Madame Charle has future sight before we even knew what that was
Robin and Chopper probably need it. Chopper’s monster point is shown to be quite strong against Queen even without it, and if he does show it then maybe the government will actually recognize him as a threat. Robin needs it because right now it’s the big thing holding her back and giving her a target on her back.
I think Chopper needs Armament. Luffy's use of advanced ryou creates the visible appearance of sakura petals, and Chopper's main attacks pre-timeskip generated sakura petal effects or pink glow on the injury (relating to his father's gift to Drum Island to turn the snow pink). Additionally, I think he could really use Seimei Kikan. He encountered it with Kumadori at Eines Lobby, it involves concious control of his cells (lots of medical applications), and his body is always covered in fur to manipulate. Also, he could more freely manipulate his various transformations. Combined would be really scary. A fur coating turned into hardened spikes, Guard Point becoming a mesh of countless binding tendrils, ect.
I think almost all of them need it except Franky (he could just make weapon out of sea prism if he ever encounter Logia user) especially Usopp, Robin, and Chopper
100% agree with Robin. It's a problem which keeps coming up. She's basically a hand to hand fighter in a world where most of her possible opponents have a blade of some kind.
I feel like no one wants to acknowledge the fact he held off 2 Yonko top commanders by himself for 30 minutes. Sure it was a delaying action, and he didn't do any meaningful dmg to either of them. But he didn't just fold to em, and drew blood from one of them, and ultimately held them off from having free reign on the Alliance. That's a feat worth commending and yet no one talks about it fsr
I feel like everyone on the list can get haki randomly, even if they don't become proficient. Seeing Koby get observation haki at Marineford on my rewatch made me realize a lot of things can trigger a bloom
An easy solution for the robin haki issue would to make it very taxing to coat many separate limbs with armament at once. I think the rest of the crew will learn the basics of haki in elbaf, it doesn't need to be a whole training arc or whatever.
😁 that's my thought too. Coating too many limbs with haki is costing. Still, having it is better than nothing. Imagine if she's ever confronted by someone like caribou. She has no way to defend herself against a logia unless she have haki, irrespective of how weak caribou actually is. Observation haki, however is extremely useful for her 😁 it goes very well with her DF powers
Ya, that's a good way to balance it. Hell, they could just say she doesn't have a very strong color of armaments haki. We saw with Vergo vs. Law that there can be large gaps in individuals' strength of haki. Robin's doesn't need to have the strongest out there to still be useful. She should have haki, though at least comparable to Amazon Lilly fighters.
I think not everyone realizes this, but Robin has learned some basics of Fishman Karate. And why that's important? Because Fishman Karate can strike Devil Fruit users even without haki. So, it's not hard to imagine that she will be able to deliver strikes against logia or other DFs anyway, even if she doesn't benefit from other applications of armament haki.
It's not that broken. Morj is forgetting the fact she FEELS the damage done to her limbs, as exponentially as her power grows. She needs haki to deal with this weakness alone. Her victory over Black Maria was pure plot armor.
@@BigJC777they dont need it, ussop, nami and chopper are not fighters and wont be top tier in the verse by end of the story, their characters dont revolve around them being strong luffy did not pick them because they were strong
Quick counterpoint: It may have taken Luffy and company two years to learn the "basics" but they learned enough to compete with people who had been using it for decades like Doflamingo, Pica, Cracker, Katakuri, and Vergo. It is hard to say how long it will take for someone like Robin or Nami to learn "bare minimum" especially if they only learn one branch.
I actually completely forgot that One of Robin's ways of getting stronger is Awakening. She's a DF user, so why not make herself more in tune with her fruit enough to awaken it too.
@@mludj3631 no Oda box, and she's not a Zoan to get that uncontrolled awakening, not to mention this is the first time she's shown any other attack that isn't just growing limbs.
It honestly feels like Nami already has a latent form of Observation haki. Too many comments during OP noticing how Nami is "an unique navigator" and "should not be able to sense this or that" and "predicts weather with her whole body". I know it's not confirmed, but I have always thought about it like that since the whole haki deal was revealed and explained.
Wow, this video really gave me a real vibe check on how I view Haki in general. It really is more interesting for some of the Strawhats to never get haki. Having them find their own nifty ways of dealing with superior opponents without relying on the crutch of haki is legitimately something I hadn't considered. It not only allows a variety of powers and avenues for growth, but is simply just more interesting narratively. If Oda can squeeze out some good tension with this moving forward I'd be more than happy with nobody else in the crew getting haki!
Yes it is. Particularly for Oda. I miss the early days when creativity was the fundamental aspect to matchups. While I do enjoy many aspects of Haki it can't be denied that it has muddied the waters.
I could see Robin getting haki but not becoming OP becuase it's extremely draining to coat so many/such large limbs. It really doesn't feel like a cop out to say "yeah It Robin yas haki but struggles to use it because coating her powers is very tiring."
Nami and Usopp improving / awakening haki are the only ones that make sense story wise at this point. I don’t see characters like Franky, Brook and Chopper getting any sort of major power up moments, but the East Blue 5 have always been the core of the group so Usopp and Nami getting key moments doesn’t seem as unlikely.
I think Oda accidentialy wrote himself into a corner. At first he made the basics of haki seem like this big gap, separating pirates from paradise to new world level. So naturally he only gave to the monster trio, jinbe (as he was a well experienced pirate) and Usopp as a part of his journey in Dressrosa But as it's become increasingly normalized to the point where random Beast Pirate goons have armament he can't now just suddenly give all of them haki. But at the same time there's no way he can randomly give all of them their own arcs to get haki, so now we're just at a point where somehow strawhats like Franky can just beat Sasaki, despite the latter having both haki types
@@lucasporto9285 What are you talking about? Blueno and Lucci did not had Haki at Enies Lobby, they only had the Rokushiki techniques and Devil Fruits.
@@lucasporto9285 hhm, never heard of that theory. Personally I think they are just techniques born out of training the human bodys abilities to their extreme limits.
This vid really does make a strong case for the Straw Hats not getting haki, which is something that has been bothering me for years now. I guess now I'm fine with it, but I always felt like Brook and Robin should have had at least a basic knowledge of haki. It makes sense for the others to not have it, but considering how long those two have been around and their respective backgrounds, it just seems like a glaring omission
@@nicholasalexander9866 If she has armament and observation, she might prolong the fight against Jack, but after that she'll still lose, unless she awakens her fruit.
If Egghead is the beginning of the revenge/repedition arc from sabaody archipelago, then the upcomming fight with the Marines should give us good opportunities for some of the other straw hats to unlock haki. If not Haki, then they will become stronger through each of their specialities
Morj raised an interesting point: most of the SHs are NOT fighters. They are specialists. Haki is a very battle-centric power system, unlike Nen, for instance. It's only natural, after all haki is ambition, and you have to fight for what you want. But most of the SHs don't have this kinda drive. That's why only Luffy and Zoro have Conqueror's, because they want to be at the top.
Thematically this break down make sense but there is one issue: Amazon Lily Haki (aside from conqueror's) can be taught exactly as Nen, so it is always an option not ambition. The difference is that togashi made Nen ability as a prerequisite for everyone to have chance to survive but Oda has intentionally left the power scaling open with one element being Haki. I agree with Morj analysis. Haki is not essential unless you are facing niche cases, in HxH every single character is a niche case.
@@dr_vegapunk13you can't use the kuja warriors as an example for your point, kuja is a tribe of warrior women, who admire strength as beauty. Also kuja live in new world where haki is a norm rather than East blue where even devilfruits are considered to be a myth.
i keep saying this everytime he says their not fighters. who said you can't be a main fighter with haki? every member has been in fights more than the average person plus with devil fruits. they're obviously not meant to sit around if we're arguing they aren't fighters while mentioning they can improve with what they have in their low-class fights. are they fighters ornot?@@jackroberts2704
i feel like it makes sense in context considering that characters like buggy & crocodile showed no signs of haki even tho they’ve been to the new world… maybe not everyone develops it idk
It would be great for all of them to have haki, not because of power scaling but because it works thematically (haki = will, everyone has the will the pursue their dreams)
Technically Nami uses big moms armament haki through Zeus in wano so she may not have Haki personally but her staff has it so she good for now she got more techniques to explore
If Luffy's goal is to have a crew that's better than Shank's crew, he's going to need more than 3 haki users. Most of the straw hats just can't carry their weight and are likely to just run around performing random tasks during big battles while the monster trio are fighting til they're near death.
Well I never seen Morj or anyone talk about this but in chapter 1007 when Hyogoro is about to die to the hands of his own men because can no longer maintain the ice oni virus, the blade that comes to Hyogoro's head is stopped by Chopper in chibi form from the new rumble balls side effect. It is a blurry image and it is not detailed but I think that stops the blade with his arm with haki. I hope Morj will see this because it is an important point in the video. To any nakama, glad to hear your opinions about this.
Commander is a pretty fitting title when you think about it. At the end of the day, they are just the strongest soldiers of each crew. Oda emphasizes the strongest people in each Yonko crew because he needs to show off their military might. But we can't ignore the fact that characters like Bao Huang and Mont-d'Or exist. They are just as important to their crew for different reasons. Most Straw-Hats are like them. And if you look at Crocus and Buggy, I'm pretty sure Roger's crew was the same as the Straw-Hats. I mean they went toe to toe with the Whitebeard Pirates back when all the Whitebeard commanders were infants. Not much of a "Pirate King crew".
@RaffyDGoat Normally I'd agree with you, but by how Oda set things up, Haki being showcased so widely amongst the top-tiers, the Straw Hats are going to have to display it at some point. For goodness sake, look at Shanks' crew? Every person on that crew to our knowledge has no devil fruit and yet the prominent members all have Haki. All in all, I agree with you in that Haki as a power-system has made the fights a bit less creative and more DBZ, smack in your face. But really, if Oda intended it go that way, shouldn't the major characters of the Straw Hat pirates, outside the monster trio, have it?
@@Avarn388 You’re right, but the problem is why now? Why not during the timeskip or in during the fights in Wano? If Oda wanted to give them Haki, I think he would have already done it.
@@RaffyDGoatExactly. I love One Piece like many but I’m not blind to the flaws it has and really the straw hats Haki stuff really should have been resolved either during the time skip or Wano itself. All in all, I hope whatever comes next for the crew is good. So far this current arc has been solid but I want the momentum to keep going.
exactly why they won't get haki because oda doesn't want them to have it. He rather their fighting styles be diverse, usopp the only one who unlocked haki cause his main role as a sniper needs it.@@RaffyDGoat
I don't think anyone else will get haki. I do think there might be some wiggle room for some characters like Robin actually having haki, the shading on Demonio Fleur was pretty suspicious... But besides Robin, I don't think any other Strawhat will get it. That being said, I do think almost all the Strawhats should have had at least some level of haki. Even if it was invisible armament haki that did nothing more than hitting logias like late pre-timeskip/early post-timeskip. It is too late now, but I think they should have had it. Franky though, I agree shouldn't have it. Especially with the Chekov's gun of the photon gloves. Being able to hit a non-tangible thing like light leaves room open for being able to hit other intangible things with technology.
Yeah, I don't think the 'Multiplier' effect DF would even apply to Haki, characters seem to have certain reserve of haki and a maximum output level as shown by Luffy running out, Zoro's sword forcing him to ouput more, etc. That skin hardness or power wouldn't get multiplied by the number of arms as it would exhaust her exponentially faster, on the other hand, I think it would be great defensively as she's creating limbs that could easily get injured and for finisher move like Demonio (I really think that was haki tbh).
Good video morj. There’s a really good theory about franky getting green blood as a a power up. Instead of cola he puts a bottle of green blood, taking the personality of the former DF user and Having the ability to switch out DF powers.
Was it ever confirmed that Demonio Fleur WASN'T armament haki? Her skin turns black, so I figured it was like Gear 4 where Luffy's black skin was because he was using haki. Also I think Usopp is 100% going to get Conquerer's Haki by the end of the story.
She was also taught by Sabo and both his and Koala's explanation of their moves is basically the same explanation Hyogoro gives on Adv. Armament. I honestly think she has it
Okay, this is a great video, and It made me think about the topic myself. I like to think Jinbei teaches the Strawhats haki. He has lessons for the crew because each of them learns about haki, and has heard of haki ever since entering the new world. Eventually, they each decide to go to him and ask how they can improve their skills to benefit Luffy. It makes sense because the Strawhats will do everything shy of dying for Luffy. Just think about how he can flourish the Haki within them to suit their personalities! So here's what I think it will look like for each crew member. For Robin, I'd imagine hers would flourish into a full body armament since each of her limbs is an extension of herself. We've seen this every time her limbs are damaged, she is as well. This can allow her to defend against damage. The usues of this type of Haki combined with her fruit are near limitless. Chopper would develop a sense of perception Haki, that helps him sense abnormalities in a person's haki. Helping him identify when someone might be suffering from something they aren't aware of. This could be medical or emotional. He for example sense that someone has a tumor, and if it's benign or malignant. Identify its exact location as well. Usopp would improve his already incredible Perception Haki which not only improves his aiming but, also may even allow him to sense when someone is lying. Nami, oh God can you imagine what this woman can do with perception haki? What if she gets the voice of all things? (I believe VoAT to be an extension of Perception) this would allow her to hear the island they land on, giving her an exact image for her island charting! Franky COULD utilize haki, but I also believe he would instead result to building and improving himself more and more through the use of his tech, that he wouldn't have need for Haki. He's practically iron man! Brook would gain the use of Conquerors Haki, Jinbei may not be able to help much in this regard, as we do not know if he has it. But he may point him toward his music which serves as The Soul King Brook's greatest form of inspiration. He would manifest his spirit through his music, and may even learn to manipulate his haki in such a way that he can bestow it on others. Like a Bard in D&D who inspires others with music. This could also be through his revive revive fruits latent abilities.
Definitely be interesting to see what final power-ups the straw hats will get. It would be great to see Ussop making use of his Haki. I'd suspected for a while Franky would incorporate Seastone into his arsenal. Maybe he'd get something like Z's battle smasher. Alternatively, either he or Ussop analyse and incorporate Raid Suit technology. Makes me wonder what Robin, Chopper, and Brook's awakenings would be like. I'd originally thought Chopper would invent new rumble balls, maybe 1 that would let him use his own version of Electro.
I honestly feel like Usopp will be top 5 SH at the end of the story. I mean, Haki IS a huge boost, and aside from Luffy and Zoro, Usopp’s dream is the only other one combat related. So I feel like we could see a huge power growth for him in the final saga with his battle against Van Agur and his competition against his dad.
11:15 It makes sense to me that her fruit could have been on her body only and awakening is her able to do it anywhere. That of course is an issue with her functions as a child already
Excellent comment. I agree with everything. I think it was you that made a video of each Yonkou's crew strength. And the Strawhats will also be the most balanced in terms of main crew, even ahead of the Red Hair Pirates. You will have, these 6 Haki users IMO: Luffy (All Forms), Zoro and Sanji (Armament and Observation), Jinbei (Armament), Usopp and Nami (Observation). These 4 awakened DFs: Luffy, Robin, Chopper and Brook. Plus Weaponry Experts: Zoro, Franky, Nami and Chopper. They have all the other Yonkou crews strengths.
I feel like all of the members of the pirates Kings crew should be able to defeat Logias, but I do like the idea that they shouldn’t all do it in the same way. Like, going down the list: Nami: can switch up between a variety of elements on the spot, which would allow her to deal damage to nearly every logia user Usopp: can use advanced conquerors on ammo Chopper: this one’s a lot harder since he likely can’t hit a logia user no matter the transformation or rumble ball effects, but maybe in his fight with Doc Q, he’ll start using chemicals on himself or on others, and he can use those chemicals to mess with a logia’s form Robin: armament Haki just feels really good for her. It would be great if she also referenced her time under crocodile’s thumb when she uses it Franky: give him a fuck ton of interesting tech Brook: I think Brook’s ice abilities might actually be a good counter to logias. I would be totally fine if he just ended getting more soul powers to beat these guys
I can see Nami unlocking observation haki in a similar sense to Usopp, but while she's at the helm of the sunny trying to save the crew from a similarly dire situation.
Chopper already has Haki. Sentomaru said as much back in Sabaody. Chopper just doesn't know how to control it. Franky has Haki. Senor Pink alluded to it back in Dressrosa. I'm pretty sure Robin has Haki. Even Brooke might have Haki. And, Nami might even possess the craziest Haki of them all. I know Oda hasn't 100% confirmed this, but it has been mostly implied.
Of course they have hakim it's confirmed everyone in One Piece as the ability to use Haki, it's merely a matter if the person in question awakens and learns how to use it.
Nami & Usopp probably already got versions of observation. Nico Robin probably already have the basic Haki (Not armament). All Straw hats will probably at least have teh basics of Haki at the end of teh story. They all probably gonna learn to use it in Elbaf or in the heat of the battle against teh Blackbeard pirates, How Zoro used it vs Mr.1 (Daz Bones).
For brook you forgot his music. Yes his ice power is just an accessory but pair it with his speed and music I think he has a few avenues of improvement
Well, you can also said that same against Zoro who's been hinted to have CoC but haven't mastered it yet and it's already deep in the series. Post time-skip if you haven't learned any Haki skills, it's a *YOU* problem already. Once they were reunited, they have no time doing trainings, they went ahead hunting poneglyphs
I think Nami getting a haki bloom is a lot more likely since wano. We’ve already seen she can stand her ground when it comes to protecting children, but now she’s reached the point of pride where she won’t run from fights just because her captain was disrespected. I could see a situation where either a child’s life or Luffy’s dream are at stake and Nami is the only person capable of helping, similar to Usopp’s observation awakening
@@AceTechHD when it comes to luffy you really can’t discount any gag from being important to the story. Everything from his laugh to what happens when he drinks milk is somehow important
I think what the powerscalers always forget is that one piece is first and foremost an adventure manga and that has battle manga elements. I grew up with Shonen like Dragon Ball and Bleach. What is so refreshing about One Piece’s approach to storytelling always prioritizes the characters, as people with personalities, and imaginative storytelling over having characters prove themselves as independent fighters. Luffy as a Shonen protagonist is expressively different from characters like Goku or Naruto who seek power and strength to better themselves. I think Oda wanted to make a statement at the end of Enies lobby when Luffy tells Lucci that he didn’t necessarily want to create second gear to be strong but he felt he had to do it so he could protect his friends. I think modern One Piece with its Conquerors Haki, Yonkos, and watershed fights can make us forget how Oda made of a point of writing this series for the first decade of its run. If getting Haki isn’t totally necessary for our characters and they have other interests then why should Oda force the poor chaps to go against who they are? For one that doesn’t really support the themes of the series and remember: Buggy is a yonko. I think Oda wants to make a point that systems, in general, always have exceptions and that there should be multiple ways to get to the same destination.
"We're in the Final Saga, yet half of the Strawhat members still do not use any form of Haki" Yet look how far they come, and how long it took them to even become a Yonko crew! If the Strawhats are not yet in the same league with the Roger pirates, then they are definitely in a league of their own!
Cant fall into the pithole of scaling everyone to the big bads of the verse. There are people who know armament but not everyone has kaido/BM durability. franky lasers should still be potent against pretty much everyone.
Nami could get a sea stone staff but even the fact she can use elements in her favor could help her to damage logias, Franky could add add sea stone to his fists, Usopp just with his variety could do the trick and finally I could see brook learning basic bitch armament haki. Turning him into someone who is not a master of haki but who makes him able to defend himself and other members even if just enough for the monster trio to arrive
You talk about Haki as an offensive buff but what about defensive? I think some of the other Straw hats at least getting some base Haki to at least getting a defense boost. That would be more beneficial to them IMO than attack boosts.
It's funny going back to pre-timeskip, and seeing Chopper using his brain point scan - surely this can be shifted to his own observation haki, finding weak points again. If the rest of the crew gets haki, it should be building off their own skills into unique forms of haki.
Key point many are missing is that Jimbei in the manga already commented after wano that Nami has conqueror's haki as a passing remark when she beats up luffy so that one is pretty much canon. We will probably see nami using it soon.
@@TickleMonster414 He did not ask it as a question at all he was shocked and in the manga said "con, con- queror's haki?!" while shocked in the panel at Nami being angry. Reread ch 1058 please.
Robin's Awakening would be like The Rumbling from Attack on Titan. I hope Brook gets more use for his giant astral from he used in Whole Cake Island. Kind of like Netero's Nen ability from Hunter X Hunter.
I don't think Robin has the will power for haki anyways. She doesn't seem to choose violence unless absolutely necessary. She's not a leader, she's very complacent and carefree mostly, just a bookworm at the end of the day. It'd be weird if she was able to conjure up haki abilities.
There are many points In the story that show that Robin as a lot of willpower. The fact she chase her dream for 20 years despite the World Government wanting her dead and civilians betraying her left to right. She goes along with Luffys antics but as shown in Egghead even she has limits on Luffys stupidity. She also has shared knowledge of Haki. I would love for her to achieve it but wouldn’t mind if she doesn’t, as a Robins fighting style has always been one of the more creative of the StrawHats.
bruh when she attacked black maria she legit said the same thing shanks said at the beggining of the story, thats willpower she showcased there and also she wants to know the history of the world and as shown in skypeia, she protects the ruins at all costs, she has enough willpower
Ummm... she was litteraly an assassin for years when she was on the run & her willingness to survive throughout her childhood till meeting the crew she was always on her own. If anything she has the most will out of anyone for haki
@@rkvlegacy9206 I kinda meant more so willpower to choose violent acts as a standard basis. Not just willpower in a vague, over encompassing sense. I think it's fair to say all the characters have it in some way, just not in a way that leads to adding to their fighting style or to a more aggressive personality.
@@amyrose9889nenasonic I don't equate the willingness to survive at all with the will to become a king or conqueror or any other leadership role type figure. I don't think just wanting to stay alive and doing what it takes to survive is the same kind of willpower at all. That's not the willpower to strive to be something heroic or strong or influential, it's just the innate will to stay alive no matter what, I think there's a night and day difference.
I agree with everything in this video. Word for word bar for bar. I also want to add the fact that Luffy won’t allow them to. Sabaody/Marineford was the most traumatic 10 days Luffy has ever been through till this day. In that week he watched his crew get lowdiffed and blooped, almost got un-alived by Magellen, watched his brother get turned into a donut in 4k, and received the biggest scar of his life. After that he vowed to be so strong that his crew or anyone close to him would never be in a position where their life would be on the line. His crew also made it their duty to never be a burden to their Captain ever again, to always be able to hold their own. So, they’ll never be in a position to sustain enough trauma for a Haki bloom. I gtta go watch that Saga again. Luffy riding a tsunami, falling out of the sky and telling Whitebeard to shut it was top tier. 😂
I feel like we should have had each crew memeber have atleast one haki being the one they specalize in after the timeskip like we could see usopp with observation early and brook franky and chopper with armament and the rest with observation like robin entire thing is her range is based on how far she can see observation helps with that a lot nami I see having observation it would probably fit her so yeah they should have atleast probably had atleast one type of haki and then later on the first haki they unlock could be there only advanced haki by the end
My pet theory is that Oda’ll give Nami Conqueror’s Haki just because he’s made her will the subject of jokes way too many times. Not that gags can be tracked to actual canon events but I can totally see him just giving it to her to further play up the joke lmao
9:01 - 11:16 ; another thing about robin, that i'm surprised wasn't mentioned is that, it's shown explicitly that *she knows the basics of fishmen karate and ryusoken.* not only does ryusoken automatically buffs Robin''s grip strength by a pretty significant amount. Thanks to Jimbei, we now know that there's a fishmen karate move that does the same thing (shark grip. the move he used to break who's-who's fingers). Which, speaking of Jimbei, Robin literally has a fishmen karate instructor *living with her.* and we've seen what fishmen karate can do. If we see habitual use of fishmen karate and ryusoken from robin, not only would she be able to deal with logias, but she'd disrupt the balance of power even before unlocking haki. it just becomes a matter of if oda's gonna take another 18 years to showcase robin's abilites AGAIN.
@@powerscallingfiendoh, well damn maybe tou got something there, zoro would be ashura, sanji the devil, robin a demon, luffy the sun god, chopper the forest god and then jombe and the others idk bit thats a good start
Ussop is like the embodiment of the saying: Good times create weak men(cowardly ussop), weak men create hard times(gets beaten), hard times create strong men(rises through adversity), strong men create good times(defeats his opponent).
The thing I feel like everyone forgets is that Haki bloom isnt a permanent thing. Like we saw in 3D2Y, Luffy only had like a 60% chance of activating it when he wanted to. This is all I would need from the rest of the SHs. Just flares of haki here and there, not total mastery in less time than a battle genius like Luffy. But when the chips are down and Robin, Nami, Brook, etc need that extra push a little bit of haki is used to complement whatever they are doing. But I dont want them turning it on and off the way the Monster Quartet can. They dont need that much mastery.
5:18 Caribou could play an essential role in the future, though. He's made appearances at several points in the story now. I doubt Oda would do it if hasn't planned anything for him. Remember, his DF has similarities with Yami Yami No Mi.
coming knowing this: Nami posses a particular unique Haki, It's seem she can sense the weather to a extreme degree, it's inherent and unique posession of Haki and usage, she can't tell when someone is but can inmediatly figure if a storm is just by sensing the salt in the air. This is passed by a Stream where a artist made his teacher mother read the enterity of One Piece, she's going trought Arabasta as of now and she figured already that Luffy would become a god of sorts, She also made theorized that Nami possesed an unique power that let her sense the weather as proficiently as she does.
Nami - DF for herself of her weapon Usop - all 3 haki ( albaf and lies coming true theory) Chopper - DF awaking Robin - DF awaking and fishman karate Frankie - awesome vegapunk tech Brook - armament haki and more ice powers King of the Pirates crew
Mr moji do you think sanji? We’ll be able to use another RokuShiki technique he can you shave and skywalk do you think he can use tempest kick? be able to shoot wind kicks
Saying Robin getting Haki will make her broken isn’t correct. It’s like saying Logia user getting Haki has no limits. Haki isn’t an unlimited source, A particular user can only use limited form of it. I mean common Luffy a Yonko still have limit of using Haki in Gear 4 form, and even in that form I don’t see hIm fully covered in Haki. I think Haki will be clarified more in Shanks arc
He learned Armament Haki by training with Rayleigh for 2 years. He learned a new application of it with instruction from another old skilled haki user, and used steel plates as training tools to learn how to control it.
Robin strength is not average as you say, she really trained combat skill with the revolutionaties, she even learned fishman karate with Koala and Hack. And about her devil fruit being broken with haki, I think it falls into the same issue as Gear 4 to Luffy, it would kinda "consume" too much haki to coat copied arms and legs all the time during fights, I can't even see she coating a whole giant arm unless its a final move.
I'd be surprised if Brook doesn't get haki by the end, but he's really the only one I can expect. I feel like Franky will probably have some sort of upgrade involving seastone on egghead so even though he'd be a good fit for haki, I don't think he'd get it. I can't see Nami or Chopper getting haki in ANYWAY, but Robin getting it could also work.
Honestly I agree with you, the only reason I'd want the Strawhats to learn Haki is so that they can fight Logias. Idk whether or not the crew will stay together at the end of the journey, but if the Strawhat crew ends up anything like any of the other Yonko crews, with division commanders and what not, they need to strong enough to deal with any threat they might face, otherwise the Strawhats would lose respect. Like imagine if Caribu was able to kidnap Robin because she can't damage a Logia, and she has to rely on the people under her who maybe knows Haki to deal with him. So basically, I wouldn't really care if they don't get haki as long as they all have a way of at least hitting a Logia.
I think the straw hats need haki, not complete mastery but the baseline ability simply because it is a manifestation of willpower. You mean to tell me the the pirate kings specially chosen crew doesn’t also have immense will power and the physical manifestation of said will power (which would also provide them with the strength to support their dreams)??
Robin is really the only one that annoys me by their lack of haki. Since she's a physical fighter who doesn't rely on creating new tech or tricks for upgrades. Even Brook has his music and astral form to give him an edge. But the biggest part is that she was with Dragon and Sabo for two years, some of the best teachers she could have. The overpowered argument I don't really get since having basic haki wouldn't automatically make her stronger than Zoro and Sanji.
well i think demonio has a bit of haki plus she did some fishman karate, so maybe she needs a bit more training cause if i remember correctly, sabo wanted to teach her haki while koala and the fishman dude wanted to show her fishman karate, so maybe she has a start and we don't know it yet
You guys think Robin, the person who had to be convinced to add more to her fighting style, really cares for learning Haki?
When it comes to the Haki chat, I think people forget that different character personalities and motivations play a role as to why they have/don't have Haki
I genuinely think she already has hakim but it waiting to utilize it properly... it just makes no sense for her not to at this point after her demonio backstory
@@kamvantutuka1523yes because they want to help luffy
Wait, so demon robin was not a haki thing? Why it's black? She just pulled out "black face" on all of us?
Imagine full body armament for Brook. He could be Black Bone Brook and go from comically scary to actually scary.
And even then, He could still use that as a gag later on for whatever prank or reason he sees fit under non-combative circumstances
I'd rather see a bigger focus on Brook's soul powers
wither skeleton
I think Brook needs observation more, his whole thing is protecting his afro and he can't even sense incoming attacks, plus he's really fast so he'd be cracked
and then he would get to be darkskin again
The disappointment i felt when i realized Robin’s demon mode DID NOT have armament haki on her arms was immeasurable.
It’s actually still left in the air what that form is exactly. I’m still on the boat that she will showcase Haki but Demonio Fleur is different than all of her other abilities as her physical body bloomed into a being 2x the size of Black Maria who was already as tall as Kaido. She was able to bloom multiple giant limbs to subdue Maria as well. She also had this dark aura surrounding her as if her will as the Devil Child itself bloomed.
Me too i hope she have it by the end of one piece
If anything this showcases her power even more as she is the most versatile next to Luffy and Brook with Fishman karate that Jinbei could always assist with.
Isn’t it weird that Robin *didn’t* learn Haki when she was training with the Revolutionary Army during the timeskip, since she interacted with and learned from people like Sabo who do have it?
Sanji just hung out with some gay mofos and got observation and armament and my girl robin cant
Sanji didn't get Armament on Gay Island .. otherwise fighting Vergo wouldn't of shattered his bones. Doesn't develop untill almost whole cake Island if I remember correctly
@@JohnB-dd4cmjust because they didn't show it with the black coating doesn't mean Sanji doesn't have armament haki.
Nico learned haki with fishman karate
Tbh I feel like during their fights with the Flying 6 at Wano was the perfect time to have characters like Nami and Franky awaken observation and armament haki respectively but now I feel like that was a missed opportunity, idk if anyone else agrees
Definitely agree. It's really dumb that the Straw Hats are a Yonko crew and yet if Franky, Robin, Brook, Usopp, Nami or Chopper faced a bum like Caribou they would lose
agreed
I was CERTAIN that this was going to happen. I made bets, made stock investments and everything because I was certain that was going to be a huge turning point for the Straw Hats to each get stronger and become haki users. It's safe to say I was dead wrong....but at least i was right about Zoro getting Conquerors Haki 😂.
Definitely agree dude. Wasted opportunity
@gamefreak2050 There were a lot of missed opportunities in Wano(plenty of good ones, hence why I call it a "mid" arc, middle of the road) but this to me was one of the largest missed opportunities. Considering Oda was having Luffy, Zorro and Sanji train, why didn't the other Straw Hats trained? You could have tied the concept of Haki, ambition and willpower, into the weakling trio, Nami, Chopper, and Usopp, showcased how their resolve towards helping Luffy succeed no matter what transmits into their Haki powers, and have that tangibly represented in them besting the foes they fought.And really, I hate to say this; it makes it hard for me to accept that they are all a Yonkou caliber crew in terms of strength.
I normally do not care much for power-scaling, but at this point in the series where the Straw Hats are one of the four pillars of the pirate world, they should be capable and strong. And Haki, as Oda has emphasized literally with Kaidou vs Luffy, should have been showcased. Sure, it could happen latter on and cool but man, Wano was right there and Oda fumbled on this part.
Usopp used his haki in Wano. While still on the Thousand Sunny while infiltrating Onigashima, Usopp is shown sensing something he cannot see. He takes out a watchman iirc.
also in dressrosa with candy
thousand sunny*
@@CrepeKemado I can’t believe I missed that lol
not really any indication of Haki, he just spots the guards and knocks them out using a sleeping gass producing plant
@@Cheezymuffin.He used conq haki in wano too
I fully believe that Nani has always had observation, she was able to detect the zombies in hogback’s mansion from “the weather”. “Emotional damage” against luffy may also be a subtle hint at armament disguised as a gag.
i agree with the observation part, however, the emotional damage for me is a showcase of the actual devil fruit of Luffy. He is terrified of Nami so she can actually hurt him jaja
@@luisgomez-jordanamartin4776that still didn't explain how nami can also manhandle and hurt Zoro and Sanji as well
@@obtusem5015🤲gag
@@obtusem5015 well 1) luffy probably also believes she can hurt them and 2) luffy is only immune from being punched because he's a rubber dude. zoro and sanji are durable as hell, but being punched probably still hurts.
Observation Haki comes in many forms and sometimes we don't even realize when ghey are using it it. Like Madame Charle has future sight before we even knew what that was
Robin and Chopper probably need it.
Chopper’s monster point is shown to be quite strong against Queen even without it, and if he does show it then maybe the government will actually recognize him as a threat.
Robin needs it because right now it’s the big thing holding her back and giving her a target on her back.
With Chopper, the rule of funny seems to be more important than anything.
Chopper, the black monster
I think Chopper needs Armament. Luffy's use of advanced ryou creates the visible appearance of sakura petals, and Chopper's main attacks pre-timeskip generated sakura petal effects or pink glow on the injury (relating to his father's gift to Drum Island to turn the snow pink).
Additionally, I think he could really use Seimei Kikan. He encountered it with Kumadori at Eines Lobby, it involves concious control of his cells (lots of medical applications), and his body is always covered in fur to manipulate. Also, he could more freely manipulate his various transformations.
Combined would be really scary. A fur coating turned into hardened spikes, Guard Point becoming a mesh of countless binding tendrils, ect.
I think almost all of them need it except Franky (he could just make weapon out of sea prism if he ever encounter Logia user) especially Usopp, Robin, and Chopper
100% agree with Robin. It's a problem which keeps coming up. She's basically a hand to hand fighter in a world where most of her possible opponents have a blade of some kind.
Bro, chopper has guts. When Big Mom attacked their ship. My dude was ready to die then and there to save others. He needs more of those moments.
I feel like no one wants to acknowledge the fact he held off 2 Yonko top commanders by himself for 30 minutes. Sure it was a delaying action, and he didn't do any meaningful dmg to either of them. But he didn't just fold to em, and drew blood from one of them, and ultimately held them off from having free reign on the Alliance. That's a feat worth commending and yet no one talks about it fsr
Sea prism stone fists for Franky would be the perfect way for Franky to have a way to deal with Logias and fit more with the character than haki.
Lol, just like Zeyphr in Film Z
I feel like everyone on the list can get haki randomly, even if they don't become proficient. Seeing Koby get observation haki at Marineford on my rewatch made me realize a lot of things can trigger a bloom
An easy solution for the robin haki issue would to make it very taxing to coat many separate limbs with armament at once. I think the rest of the crew will learn the basics of haki in elbaf, it doesn't need to be a whole training arc or whatever.
😁 that's my thought too. Coating too many limbs with haki is costing. Still, having it is better than nothing. Imagine if she's ever confronted by someone like caribou. She has no way to defend herself against a logia unless she have haki, irrespective of how weak caribou actually is. Observation haki, however is extremely useful for her 😁 it goes very well with her DF powers
Ya, that's a good way to balance it. Hell, they could just say she doesn't have a very strong color of armaments haki. We saw with Vergo vs. Law that there can be large gaps in individuals' strength of haki. Robin's doesn't need to have the strongest out there to still be useful. She should have haki, though at least comparable to Amazon Lilly fighters.
She only needs to haki up one of her arms.
I think not everyone realizes this, but Robin has learned some basics of Fishman Karate. And why that's important? Because Fishman Karate can strike Devil Fruit users even without haki. So, it's not hard to imagine that she will be able to deliver strikes against logia or other DFs anyway, even if she doesn't benefit from other applications of armament haki.
It's not that broken. Morj is forgetting the fact she FEELS the damage done to her limbs, as exponentially as her power grows. She needs haki to deal with this weakness alone. Her victory over Black Maria was pure plot armor.
I would love it if ALL of them got haki. It would help solidify them as the strongest pirate crew in One Piece history.
They don't need to be the strongest
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@@royalfun1031true but they kinda need haki nontheless, even in kaido's crew all the commanders had it, they do need it
i would hate that so much i would drop the story
@@BigJC777they dont need it, ussop, nami and chopper are not fighters and wont be top tier in the verse by end of the story, their characters dont revolve around them being strong luffy did not pick them because they were strong
Quick counterpoint: It may have taken Luffy and company two years to learn the "basics" but they learned enough to compete with people who had been using it for decades like Doflamingo, Pica, Cracker, Katakuri, and Vergo. It is hard to say how long it will take for someone like Robin or Nami to learn "bare minimum" especially if they only learn one branch.
I actually completely forgot that One of Robin's ways of getting stronger is Awakening. She's a DF user, so why not make herself more in tune with her fruit enough to awaken it too.
Didn’t she awaken it in Wano?
@@mludj3631 no Oda box, and she's not a Zoan to get that uncontrolled awakening, not to mention this is the first time she's shown any other attack that isn't just growing limbs.
What happens if Brook awakens his DF? Does he come back to life? Does he get a third life?
@@suneelj93 Hell grow his skin back and have more speed and strength
It honestly feels like Nami already has a latent form of Observation haki. Too many comments during OP noticing how Nami is "an unique navigator" and "should not be able to sense this or that" and "predicts weather with her whole body". I know it's not confirmed, but I have always thought about it like that since the whole haki deal was revealed and explained.
Wow, this video really gave me a real vibe check on how I view Haki in general. It really is more interesting for some of the Strawhats to never get haki. Having them find their own nifty ways of dealing with superior opponents without relying on the crutch of haki is legitimately something I hadn't considered. It not only allows a variety of powers and avenues for growth, but is simply just more interesting narratively. If Oda can squeeze out some good tension with this moving forward I'd be more than happy with nobody else in the crew getting haki!
Haki isn’t a crutch
Yes it is.
Particularly for Oda.
I miss the early days when creativity was the fundamental aspect to matchups.
While I do enjoy many aspects of Haki it can't be denied that it has muddied the waters.
@@ofimportance5458 not at first...
@@CaptainPieBeard Yeah characters had to be a bit more creative in combat. Haki made fights go into more just hit them with harder armament
I could see Robin getting haki but not becoming OP becuase it's extremely draining to coat so many/such large limbs. It really doesn't feel like a cop out to say "yeah It Robin yas haki but struggles to use it because coating her powers is very tiring."
I’ve always felt like usopp was eventually going to unlock conquerors haki
He's lied about it twice. It's not if it's when.
And his observation Haki as well.
Nami and Usopp improving / awakening haki are the only ones that make sense story wise at this point. I don’t see characters like Franky, Brook and Chopper getting any sort of major power up moments, but the East Blue 5 have always been the core of the group so Usopp and Nami getting key moments doesn’t seem as unlikely.
Robin makes the most sense. She spent 2 years with people who can teach haki.
I think Oda accidentialy wrote himself into a corner. At first he made the basics of haki seem like this big gap, separating pirates from paradise to new world level. So naturally he only gave to the monster trio, jinbe (as he was a well experienced pirate) and Usopp as a part of his journey in Dressrosa
But as it's become increasingly normalized to the point where random Beast Pirate goons have armament he can't now just suddenly give all of them haki. But at the same time there's no way he can randomly give all of them their own arcs to get haki, so now we're just at a point where somehow strawhats like Franky can just beat Sasaki, despite the latter having both haki types
well, luffy ebat blueno and lucci while they had haki and he did not ven know about it.... so at least there is continuity there
franky's just built different
@@lucasporto9285 What are you talking about? Blueno and Lucci did not had Haki at Enies Lobby, they only had the Rokushiki techniques and Devil Fruits.
@@samuellaakso7012 there are different opinions as to what Rokushiki is, I choose to believe it is rudimentary haki based on the story
@@lucasporto9285 hhm, never heard of that theory. Personally I think they are just techniques born out of training the human bodys abilities to their extreme limits.
Giving Chopper an artificial Sulong form (maybe based around jump boost??) that’s an evolution of his rumble ball would be really cool
chopper is using rumble ball to forceably awaken he needs to stop being a drug addict
This vid really does make a strong case for the Straw Hats not getting haki, which is something that has been bothering me for years now. I guess now I'm fine with it, but I always felt like Brook and Robin should have had at least a basic knowledge of haki. It makes sense for the others to not have it, but considering how long those two have been around and their respective backgrounds, it just seems like a glaring omission
Just imagine Robin with Haki
She would legit contend with commanders like Queen, Cracker, Jack etc, I think.
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If she has armament and observation, she might prolong the fight against Jack, but after that she'll still lose, unless she awakens her fruit.
@@KuLimLim awakened Robin fruit would be insane it hurts my brain just thinking about what it could be!
If Egghead is the beginning of the revenge/repedition arc from sabaody archipelago, then the upcomming fight with the Marines should give us good opportunities for some of the other straw hats to unlock haki. If not Haki, then they will become stronger through each of their specialities
Morj raised an interesting point: most of the SHs are NOT fighters. They are specialists. Haki is a very battle-centric power system, unlike Nen, for instance. It's only natural, after all haki is ambition, and you have to fight for what you want. But most of the SHs don't have this kinda drive. That's why only Luffy and Zoro have Conqueror's, because they want to be at the top.
I get the point, but it still sounds like an excuse. You should be able to fight strong people if you're on the Pirate King's crew.
Thematically this break down make sense but there is one issue: Amazon Lily
Haki (aside from conqueror's) can be taught exactly as Nen, so it is always an option not ambition.
The difference is that togashi made Nen ability as a prerequisite for everyone to have chance to survive but Oda has intentionally left the power scaling open with one element being Haki.
I agree with Morj analysis. Haki is not essential unless you are facing niche cases, in HxH every single character is a niche case.
@@dr_vegapunk13you can't use the kuja warriors as an example for your point, kuja is a tribe of warrior women, who admire strength as beauty. Also kuja live in new world where haki is a norm rather than East blue where even devilfruits are considered to be a myth.
i keep saying this everytime he says their not fighters. who said you can't be a main fighter with haki? every member has been in fights more than the average person plus with devil fruits. they're obviously not meant to sit around if we're arguing they aren't fighters while mentioning they can improve with what they have in their low-class fights. are they fighters ornot?@@jackroberts2704
@Monkeytheluffy56 it's in Paradise
I kinda want all of them to at least awaken it but I don’t think they will. I think it’s a little too late to write it in convincingly
i feel like it makes sense in context considering that characters like buggy & crocodile showed no signs of haki even tho they’ve been to the new world… maybe not everyone develops it idk
It would be great for all of them to have haki, not because of power scaling but because it works thematically (haki = will, everyone has the will the pursue their dreams)
I remember when Robin was having her fight in Wano I thought she was using armament but it just turned out to be shading.
Remember the day when the fandom shaken because that shading 😂 , its so funny
Technically Nami uses big moms armament haki through Zeus in wano so she may not have Haki personally but her staff has it so she good for now she got more techniques to explore
I do want all the strawhats to have some form of haki, but it definitely should have been set up more before this current point in the story.
If Luffy's goal is to have a crew that's better than Shank's crew, he's going to need more than 3 haki users. Most of the straw hats just can't carry their weight and are likely to just run around performing random tasks during big battles while the monster trio are fighting til they're near death.
Chopper is Forest God canditate
Outside of the monster trio, Jinbe, Robin, and Franky are very strong fighters, and Nami has Zeus. Also, Jinbe and Usopp have Haki as well.
Well I never seen Morj or anyone talk about this but in chapter 1007 when Hyogoro is about to die to the hands of his own men because can no longer maintain the ice oni virus, the blade that comes to Hyogoro's head is stopped by Chopper in chibi form from the new rumble balls side effect. It is a blurry image and it is not detailed but I think that stops the blade with his arm with haki.
I hope Morj will see this because it is an important point in the video. To any nakama, glad to hear your opinions about this.
Chopper will get Conqueror's Haki before Morj uploads Wano Analysis video at this point
Commander is a pretty fitting title when you think about it. At the end of the day, they are just the strongest soldiers of each crew. Oda emphasizes the strongest people in each Yonko crew because he needs to show off their military might. But we can't ignore the fact that characters like Bao Huang and Mont-d'Or exist. They are just as important to their crew for different reasons.
Most Straw-Hats are like them. And if you look at Crocus and Buggy, I'm pretty sure Roger's crew was the same as the Straw-Hats. I mean they went toe to toe with the Whitebeard Pirates back when all the Whitebeard commanders were infants. Not much of a "Pirate King crew".
I don’t expect any of them to get Haki tbh, and I don’t necessarily need them to get haki. It’s refreshing to see fights without Haki.
@RaffyDGoat Normally I'd agree with you, but by how Oda set things up, Haki being showcased so widely amongst the top-tiers, the Straw Hats are going to have to display it at some point. For goodness sake, look at Shanks' crew? Every person on that crew to our knowledge has no devil fruit and yet the prominent members all have Haki. All in all, I agree with you in that Haki as a power-system has made the fights a bit less creative and more DBZ, smack in your face. But really, if Oda intended it go that way, shouldn't the major characters of the Straw Hat pirates, outside the monster trio, have it?
@@Avarn388 You’re right, but the problem is why now? Why not during the timeskip or in during the fights in Wano?
If Oda wanted to give them Haki, I think he would have already done it.
@@RaffyDGoatExactly. I love One Piece like many but I’m not blind to the flaws it has and really the straw hats Haki stuff really should have been resolved either during the time skip or Wano itself. All in all, I hope whatever comes next for the crew is good. So far this current arc has been solid but I want the momentum to keep going.
exactly why they won't get haki because oda doesn't want them to have it. He rather their fighting styles be diverse, usopp the only one who unlocked haki cause his main role as a sniper needs it.@@RaffyDGoat
I don't think anyone else will get haki. I do think there might be some wiggle room for some characters like Robin actually having haki, the shading on Demonio Fleur was pretty suspicious... But besides Robin, I don't think any other Strawhat will get it.
That being said, I do think almost all the Strawhats should have had at least some level of haki. Even if it was invisible armament haki that did nothing more than hitting logias like late pre-timeskip/early post-timeskip. It is too late now, but I think they should have had it.
Franky though, I agree shouldn't have it. Especially with the Chekov's gun of the photon gloves. Being able to hit a non-tangible thing like light leaves room open for being able to hit other intangible things with technology.
Yeah, I don't think the 'Multiplier' effect DF would even apply to Haki, characters seem to have certain reserve of haki and a maximum output level as shown by Luffy running out, Zoro's sword forcing him to ouput more, etc. That skin hardness or power wouldn't get multiplied by the number of arms as it would exhaust her exponentially faster, on the other hand, I think it would be great defensively as she's creating limbs that could easily get injured and for finisher move like Demonio (I really think that was haki tbh).
I also see Brook developing his "Soul" powers somewhat, idk what that would look like but it makes sense to me for his character
I honestly feel nami has been using haki all this time but has been doing it subconsciously
"learning haki is an extremely time consuming ordeal"
It literally takes less time that a degree irl, lmao
Good video morj. There’s a really good theory about franky getting green blood as a a power up. Instead of cola he puts a bottle of green blood, taking the personality of the former DF user and Having the ability to switch out DF powers.
Was it ever confirmed that Demonio Fleur WASN'T armament haki? Her skin turns black, so I figured it was like Gear 4 where Luffy's black skin was because he was using haki.
Also I think Usopp is 100% going to get Conquerer's Haki by the end of the story.
She was also taught by Sabo and both his and Koala's explanation of their moves is basically the same explanation Hyogoro gives on Adv. Armament. I honestly think she has it
Franky doesn’t need haki, he’s already SUPER
Okay, this is a great video, and It made me think about the topic myself. I like to think Jinbei teaches the Strawhats haki. He has lessons for the crew because each of them learns about haki, and has heard of haki ever since entering the new world. Eventually, they each decide to go to him and ask how they can improve their skills to benefit Luffy. It makes sense because the Strawhats will do everything shy of dying for Luffy.
Just think about how he can flourish the Haki within them to suit their personalities!
So here's what I think it will look like for each crew member.
For Robin, I'd imagine hers would flourish into a full body armament since each of her limbs is an extension of herself. We've seen this every time her limbs are damaged, she is as well. This can allow her to defend against damage. The usues of this type of Haki combined with her fruit are near limitless.
Chopper would develop a sense of perception Haki, that helps him sense abnormalities in a person's haki. Helping him identify when someone might be suffering from something they aren't aware of. This could be medical or emotional. He for example sense that someone has a tumor, and if it's benign or malignant. Identify its exact location as well.
Usopp would improve his already incredible Perception Haki which not only improves his aiming but, also may even allow him to sense when someone is lying.
Nami, oh God can you imagine what this woman can do with perception haki? What if she gets the voice of all things? (I believe VoAT to be an extension of Perception) this would allow her to hear the island they land on, giving her an exact image for her island charting!
Franky COULD utilize haki, but I also believe he would instead result to building and improving himself more and more through the use of his tech, that he wouldn't have need for Haki. He's practically iron man!
Brook would gain the use of Conquerors Haki, Jinbei may not be able to help much in this regard, as we do not know if he has it. But he may point him toward his music which serves as The Soul King Brook's greatest form of inspiration. He would manifest his spirit through his music, and may even learn to manipulate his haki in such a way that he can bestow it on others. Like a Bard in D&D who inspires others with music. This could also be through his revive revive fruits latent abilities.
Definitely be interesting to see what final power-ups the straw hats will get. It would be great to see Ussop making use of his Haki. I'd suspected for a while Franky would incorporate Seastone into his arsenal. Maybe he'd get something like Z's battle smasher. Alternatively, either he or Ussop analyse and incorporate Raid Suit technology. Makes me wonder what Robin, Chopper, and Brook's awakenings would be like. I'd originally thought Chopper would invent new rumble balls, maybe 1 that would let him use his own version of Electro.
I honestly feel like Usopp will be top 5 SH at the end of the story. I mean, Haki IS a huge boost, and aside from Luffy and Zoro, Usopp’s dream is the only other one combat related. So I feel like we could see a huge power growth for him in the final saga with his battle against Van Agur and his competition against his dad.
Either that or because of the misunderstanding in Dresrossa he'll be the "most powerful fighter"
11:15 It makes sense to me that her fruit could have been on her body only and awakening is her able to do it anywhere. That of course is an issue with her functions as a child already
"A collection of misfit toys, as some might say" *stares at Big Mom specifically*
Hear me out: Chopper gets Armament Haki, but instead coating himself, he coats his Rumble Balls, and Haki Rumble has new points.
Excellent comment. I agree with everything. I think it was you that made a video of each Yonkou's crew strength. And the Strawhats will also be the most balanced in terms of main crew, even ahead of the Red Hair Pirates. You will have, these 6 Haki users IMO: Luffy (All Forms), Zoro and Sanji (Armament and Observation), Jinbei (Armament), Usopp and Nami (Observation). These 4 awakened DFs: Luffy, Robin, Chopper and Brook. Plus Weaponry Experts: Zoro, Franky, Nami and Chopper. They have all the other Yonkou crews strengths.
Zoro has conqueror's, Jimbe has observation. Usopp will likely get armament but not yet.
I feel like all of the members of the pirates Kings crew should be able to defeat Logias, but I do like the idea that they shouldn’t all do it in the same way.
Like, going down the list:
Nami: can switch up between a variety of elements on the spot, which would allow her to deal damage to nearly every logia user
Usopp: can use advanced conquerors on ammo
Chopper: this one’s a lot harder since he likely can’t hit a logia user no matter the transformation or rumble ball effects, but maybe in his fight with Doc Q, he’ll start using chemicals on himself or on others, and he can use those chemicals to mess with a logia’s form
Robin: armament Haki just feels really good for her. It would be great if she also referenced her time under crocodile’s thumb when she uses it
Franky: give him a fuck ton of interesting tech
Brook: I think Brook’s ice abilities might actually be a good counter to logias. I would be totally fine if he just ended getting more soul powers to beat these guys
I can see Nami unlocking observation haki in a similar sense to Usopp, but while she's at the helm of the sunny trying to save the crew from a similarly dire situation.
Chopper already has Haki. Sentomaru said as much back in Sabaody. Chopper just doesn't know how to control it. Franky has Haki. Senor Pink alluded to it back in Dressrosa. I'm pretty sure Robin has Haki. Even Brooke might have Haki. And, Nami might even possess the craziest Haki of them all. I know Oda hasn't 100% confirmed this, but it has been mostly implied.
Of course they have hakim it's confirmed everyone in One Piece as the ability to use Haki, it's merely a matter if the person in question awakens and learns how to use it.
Nami & Usopp probably already got versions of observation. Nico Robin probably already have the basic Haki (Not armament). All Straw hats will probably at least have teh basics of Haki at the end of teh story. They all probably gonna learn to use it in Elbaf or in the heat of the battle against teh Blackbeard pirates, How Zoro used it vs Mr.1 (Daz Bones).
For brook you forgot his music. Yes his ice power is just an accessory but pair it with his speed and music I think he has a few avenues of improvement
Well, you can also said that same against Zoro who's been hinted to have CoC but haven't mastered it yet and it's already deep in the series. Post time-skip if you haven't learned any Haki skills, it's a *YOU* problem already.
Once they were reunited, they have no time doing trainings, they went ahead hunting poneglyphs
Sanji has yet to unlock conquer haki hes almost close
I think Nami getting a haki bloom is a lot more likely since wano. We’ve already seen she can stand her ground when it comes to protecting children, but now she’s reached the point of pride where she won’t run from fights just because her captain was disrespected. I could see a situation where either a child’s life or Luffy’s dream are at stake and Nami is the only person capable of helping, similar to Usopp’s observation awakening
Nami also can hurt Luffy with her punches. It’s a gag but I believe it’s also foreshadowing for what she’s capable of.
@@AceTechHD when it comes to luffy you really can’t discount any gag from being important to the story. Everything from his laugh to what happens when he drinks milk is somehow important
I think what the powerscalers always forget is that one piece is first and foremost an adventure manga and that has battle manga elements. I grew up with Shonen like Dragon Ball and Bleach. What is so refreshing about One Piece’s approach to storytelling always prioritizes the characters, as people with personalities, and imaginative storytelling over having characters prove themselves as independent fighters. Luffy as a Shonen protagonist is expressively different from characters like Goku or Naruto who seek power and strength to better themselves. I think Oda wanted to make a statement at the end of Enies lobby when Luffy tells Lucci that he didn’t necessarily want to create second gear to be strong but he felt he had to do it so he could protect his friends. I think modern One Piece with its Conquerors Haki, Yonkos, and watershed fights can make us forget how Oda made of a point of writing this series for the first decade of its run. If getting Haki isn’t totally necessary for our characters and they have other interests then why should Oda force the poor chaps to go against who they are? For one that doesn’t really support the themes of the series and remember: Buggy is a yonko. I think Oda wants to make a point that systems, in general, always have exceptions and that there should be multiple ways to get to the same destination.
"We're in the Final Saga, yet half of the Strawhat members still do not use any form of Haki"
Yet look how far they come, and how long it took them to even become a Yonko crew! If the Strawhats are not yet in the same league with the Roger pirates, then they are definitely in a league of their own!
Cant fall into the pithole of scaling everyone to the big bads of the verse. There are people who know armament but not everyone has kaido/BM durability. franky lasers should still be potent against pretty much everyone.
Zoro with robins devil fruit would be so overpowered it’s actually insane. Just imaging 1000 sword style or more
I would absolutely love Brook's haki bloom with him channeling his will and haki into music so like a aeo attack with armament
Nami could get a sea stone staff but even the fact she can use elements in her favor could help her to damage logias, Franky could add add sea stone to his fists, Usopp just with his variety could do the trick and finally I could see brook learning basic bitch armament haki. Turning him into someone who is not a master of haki but who makes him able to defend himself and other members even if just enough for the monster trio to arrive
You talk about Haki as an offensive buff but what about defensive? I think some of the other Straw hats at least getting some base Haki to at least getting a defense boost. That would be more beneficial to them IMO than attack boosts.
It's funny going back to pre-timeskip, and seeing Chopper using his brain point scan - surely this can be shifted to his own observation haki, finding weak points again.
If the rest of the crew gets haki, it should be building off their own skills into unique forms of haki.
What if Robin already learned about Haki under Dragon/Sabo?
Key point many are missing is that Jimbei in the manga already commented after wano that Nami has conqueror's haki as a passing remark when she beats up luffy so that one is pretty much canon.
We will probably see nami using it soon.
Yes!
It was a gag, and he asked it as a question
@@TickleMonster414 He did not ask it as a question at all he was shocked and in the manga said "con, con- queror's haki?!" while shocked in the panel at Nami being angry. Reread ch 1058 please.
@@bailvik6390 It was a joke about how angry she was.
Robin's Awakening would be like The Rumbling from Attack on Titan.
I hope Brook gets more use for his giant astral from he used in Whole Cake Island. Kind of like Netero's Nen ability from Hunter X Hunter.
I liked it when Brook used to use his music to fight like putting enemies to sleep with a lullaby wish Oda would bring that back
I don't think Robin has the will power for haki anyways. She doesn't seem to choose violence unless absolutely necessary. She's not a leader, she's very complacent and carefree mostly, just a bookworm at the end of the day. It'd be weird if she was able to conjure up haki abilities.
There are many points In the story that show that Robin as a lot of willpower. The fact she chase her dream for 20 years despite the World Government wanting her dead and civilians betraying her left to right. She goes along with Luffys antics but as shown in Egghead even she has limits on Luffys stupidity. She also has shared knowledge of Haki. I would love for her to achieve it but wouldn’t mind if she doesn’t, as a Robins fighting style has always been one of the more creative of the StrawHats.
bruh when she attacked black maria she legit said the same thing shanks said at the beggining of the story, thats willpower she showcased there and also she wants to know the history of the world and as shown in skypeia, she protects the ruins at all costs, she has enough willpower
Ummm... she was litteraly an assassin for years when she was on the run & her willingness to survive throughout her childhood till meeting the crew she was always on her own. If anything she has the most will out of anyone for haki
@@rkvlegacy9206 I kinda meant more so willpower to choose violent acts as a standard basis. Not just willpower in a vague, over encompassing sense. I think it's fair to say all the characters have it in some way, just not in a way that leads to adding to their fighting style or to a more aggressive personality.
@@amyrose9889nenasonic I don't equate the willingness to survive at all with the will to become a king or conqueror or any other leadership role type figure. I don't think just wanting to stay alive and doing what it takes to survive is the same kind of willpower at all.
That's not the willpower to strive to be something heroic or strong or influential, it's just the innate will to stay alive no matter what, I think there's a night and day difference.
I agree with everything in this video. Word for word bar for bar. I also want to add the fact that Luffy won’t allow them to.
Sabaody/Marineford was the most traumatic 10 days Luffy has ever been through till this day. In that week he watched his crew get lowdiffed and blooped, almost got un-alived by Magellen, watched his brother get turned into a donut in 4k, and received the biggest scar of his life. After that he vowed to be so strong that his crew or anyone close to him would never be in a position where their life would be on the line. His crew also made it their duty to never be a burden to their Captain ever again, to always be able to hold their own. So, they’ll never be in a position to sustain enough trauma for a Haki bloom.
I gtta go watch that Saga again. Luffy riding a tsunami, falling out of the sky and telling Whitebeard to shut it was top tier. 😂
I feel like we should have had each crew memeber have atleast one haki being the one they specalize in after the timeskip like we could see usopp with observation early and brook franky and chopper with armament and the rest with observation like robin entire thing is her range is based on how far she can see observation helps with that a lot nami I see having observation it would probably fit her so yeah they should have atleast probably had atleast one type of haki and then later on the first haki they unlock could be there only advanced haki by the end
I do think Frankie learning armament to coat his mech like a sword would be so fucking cool
My pet theory is that Oda’ll give Nami Conqueror’s Haki just because he’s made her will the subject of jokes way too many times. Not that gags can be tracked to actual canon events but I can totally see him just giving it to her to further play up the joke lmao
Robin just needs armament. That would just perfect her fighting style
I don't see how the straw hat crew will measure up to the blackbeard crew without it
9:01 - 11:16 ; another thing about robin, that i'm surprised wasn't mentioned is that, it's shown explicitly that *she knows the basics of fishmen karate and ryusoken.*
not only does ryusoken automatically buffs Robin''s grip strength by a pretty significant amount. Thanks to Jimbei, we now know that there's a fishmen karate move that does the same thing (shark grip. the move he used to break who's-who's fingers). Which, speaking of Jimbei, Robin literally has a fishmen karate instructor *living with her.* and we've seen what fishmen karate can do. If we see habitual use of fishmen karate and ryusoken from robin, not only would she be able to deal with logias, but she'd disrupt the balance of power even before unlocking haki. it just becomes a matter of if oda's gonna take another 18 years to showcase robin's abilites AGAIN.
imagine if chopper's awakening gave him a physique closer to Luffy, smaller, but more agile and powerful than his monster point
In mythology a reindeer is known as the forest God so I expect chopper to be one
@@powerscallingfiendoh, well damn maybe tou got something there, zoro would be ashura, sanji the devil, robin a demon, luffy the sun god, chopper the forest god and then jombe and the others idk bit thats a good start
Ussop is like the embodiment of the saying: Good times create weak men(cowardly ussop), weak men create hard times(gets beaten), hard times create strong men(rises through adversity), strong men create good times(defeats his opponent).
The thing I feel like everyone forgets is that Haki bloom isnt a permanent thing. Like we saw in 3D2Y, Luffy only had like a 60% chance of activating it when he wanted to. This is all I would need from the rest of the SHs. Just flares of haki here and there, not total mastery in less time than a battle genius like Luffy. But when the chips are down and Robin, Nami, Brook, etc need that extra push a little bit of haki is used to complement whatever they are doing. But I dont want them turning it on and off the way the Monster Quartet can. They dont need that much mastery.
5:18 Caribou could play an essential role in the future, though. He's made appearances at several points in the story now. I doubt Oda would do it if hasn't planned anything for him. Remember, his DF has similarities with Yami Yami No Mi.
coming knowing this: Nami posses a particular unique Haki, It's seem she can sense the weather to a extreme degree, it's inherent and unique posession of Haki and usage, she can't tell when someone is but can inmediatly figure if a storm is just by sensing the salt in the air.
This is passed by a Stream where a artist made his teacher mother read the enterity of One Piece, she's going trought Arabasta as of now and she figured already that Luffy would become a god of sorts, She also made theorized that Nami possesed an unique power that let her sense the weather as proficiently as she does.
It’s Morjin time
I think since Robin was able to learn Fishman Karate, maybe Chopper might learn Electro or Sulong Mode like the Minks 🦌
Nami - DF for herself of her weapon
Usop - all 3 haki ( albaf and lies coming true theory)
Chopper - DF awaking
Robin - DF awaking and fishman karate
Frankie - awesome vegapunk tech
Brook - armament haki and more ice powers
King of the Pirates crew
Mr moji do you think sanji? We’ll be able to use another RokuShiki technique he can you shave and skywalk do you think he can use tempest kick? be able to shoot wind kicks
Maybe Elbaf can help with that
Saying Robin getting Haki will make her broken isn’t correct. It’s like saying Logia user getting Haki has no limits. Haki isn’t an unlimited source, A particular user can only use limited form of it.
I mean common Luffy a Yonko still have limit of using Haki in Gear 4 form, and even in that form I don’t see hIm fully covered in Haki.
I think Haki will be clarified more in Shanks arc
Imagine Brook's new epithet being "Black Bones Soul King"
Luffy learned advanced armament against some steel plates, anyone else can learn basic haki by washing dishes or something
He learned Armament Haki by training with Rayleigh for 2 years. He learned a new application of it with instruction from another old skilled haki user, and used steel plates as training tools to learn how to control it.
i remember vega punk has that suit which they were wearing now in egg head that has the ability to hit logias
Hmm, I wonder if franky would one day implement seastone into his fists, or just have some seastone type weapon atleast.
Robin strength is not average as you say, she really trained combat skill with the revolutionaties, she even learned fishman karate with Koala and Hack. And about her devil fruit being broken with haki, I think it falls into the same issue as Gear 4 to Luffy, it would kinda "consume" too much haki to coat copied arms and legs all the time during fights, I can't even see she coating a whole giant arm unless its a final move.
I'd be surprised if Brook doesn't get haki by the end, but he's really the only one I can expect. I feel like Franky will probably have some sort of upgrade involving seastone on egghead so even though he'd be a good fit for haki, I don't think he'd get it. I can't see Nami or Chopper getting haki in ANYWAY, but Robin getting it could also work.
Honestly I agree with you, the only reason I'd want the Strawhats to learn Haki is so that they can fight Logias. Idk whether or not the crew will stay together at the end of the journey, but if the Strawhat crew ends up anything like any of the other Yonko crews, with division commanders and what not, they need to strong enough to deal with any threat they might face, otherwise the Strawhats would lose respect. Like imagine if Caribu was able to kidnap Robin because she can't damage a Logia, and she has to rely on the people under her who maybe knows Haki to deal with him.
So basically, I wouldn't really care if they don't get haki as long as they all have a way of at least hitting a Logia.
I think the straw hats need haki, not complete mastery but the baseline ability simply because it is a manifestation of willpower. You mean to tell me the the pirate kings specially chosen crew doesn’t also have immense will power and the physical manifestation of said will power (which would also provide them with the strength to support their dreams)??
It's crazy how Franky can just casually say to Luffy "you want that ancient weapon now" LMAO
Tbh Robin needs her Cowboy hat more than haki.