Chia Farming... How Does It Actually Work?
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
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In this video, I will be covering Chia "Mining". I go over everything from the Chia Consensus to the parts you need and a quick setup.
⌚ Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro
00:28 - Overview
01:23 - Proof Of Space And Time
04:14 - What Is Plotting?
05:23 - GiB vs GB? The Notions
05:51 - Plotting Continues...
07:26 - The Specs Requirement For Plotting
14:36 - The Hard drives For Farming
15:02 - What Is Farming?
16:07 - Plots Are Connected To YOUR Seed Phrase
16:36 - Solo And Pool Farming
17:20 - How Much Money Can You Make?
19:12 - Plotting & Farming Quick Setup
26:31 - The Takeaway Of Plotting + Future Guides
26:55 - Is Chia Farming Worth It?
29:02 - Outro
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⚙️ Hard drives For Storing Your Plots:
• Seagate IronWolf (Multiple Sizes) - geni.us/TVIICH
• Toshiba N300 - geni.us/4xRR4v3
• Western Digital - geni.us/h04oj
⚙️ Plotter Setups:
High Budget:
• CPU: AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3960X 24-Core 48 Thread: geni.us/4F0JnE
• CPU Cooler: EVGA ClC 360mm AIO: geni.us/B05tck
• Motherboard (1 M.2 Slot): GIGABYTE TRX40 AORUS Master ATX - geni.us/HvNkbdF
• RAM: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 128GB - geni.us/XyAuN
• NVME SSD (Option 1): 3x Corsair MP600 CORE 4TB Gen4 (use pcie adapter) - geni.us/T5rblbw
• NVME SSD (Option 2): 3x Corsair MP400 CORE 4TB Gen4 (use pcie adapter) - geni.us/W9xaKK6 or geni.us/O4KgOA
• GPU: GT1030 (Or any other gpu) - geni.us/Je6bC1h
• PSU: 850W Thermaltake - geni.us/mhZEkg
• Chasis(8 HDDs): Fractal Design Define R5 ATX - geni.us/Kr1akAW
Medium Budget:
• CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3950x 16 Cores 32 Threads: geni.us/PfCquH8
• CPU Cooler: Use stock cooler comes with CPU or any other cooler
• Motherboard (1 M.2 Slot): MSI MAG B550M Mortar WiFi mATX - geni.us/IxjrW
• RAM: HyperX Kingston 64GB 2666MHz DDR4- geni.us/t8XGkZ
• NVME SSD (Option 1): 2x Corsair MP600 CORE 4TB Gen4 - geni.us/T5rblbw
• NVME SSD (Option 2): 2x Corsair MP400 CORE 4TB Gen4 - geni.us/W9xaKK6 or geni.us/O4KgOA
• GPU: GT1030 (Or any other gpu) - geni.us/Je6bC1h
• PSU: 850W Thermaltake (650W works too) - geni.us/mhZEkg
• Chasis(10 HDDs): Fractal Design Node 804 mATX - geni.us/UWSs
Low Budget:
• CPU: Intel Core i7-10700 8 Cores 16 Threads: geni.us/hLLc3j
• CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9i: geni.us/ZXAeVLk
• Motherboard (1 M.2 Slot): ASROCK H470 Phantom ATX - geni.us/9cPr
• RAM: Corsair Vengeance 3200 2x 8GB - geni.us/pjtgkz
• Temp-Storage: XPG GAMMIX 2TB Gen3 - geni.us/O7OOeM
• GPU: GT1030 (Or any other gpu) - geni.us/Je6bC1h
• PSU: 850W Thermaltake (650W works too) - geni.us/mhZEkg
• Chasis(4 HDDs): Corsair Carbide Series 200R ATX - geni.us/B0BzTav
⚙️ Extensions and adapters:
• SATA Adapter 1: geni.us/Q7hDeRE
• SATA Adapter 2: geni.us/J1me
• NVME Adapter 1 Gen3: geni.us/vw8H9
• NVME Adapter 2 Gen4: geni.us/XOsc7cw
• SATA Cables: geni.us/aGgUJE
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*Notes*
- I butchered the calculator at the end by putting the initial space of plots at 92 TiB when it should have been 0 - Which resulted in seeing high profits at first when it should've been gradually increasing instead. Sorry!!
- I made another whopsy! >< a 2TB SSD can do 7 plots (7 * 256 GB per plot = 1,792 GB) So just the RAM will bottleneck
- Forgot to talk about RAID. RAID for your final storage is not recommended (you want to maximize capacity) as for your Temp storage you can use RAID to boost speed
- If you have "Not Synced" problem with your Wallet/Node then try opening the Chia Porotocol Port on your router - Port 8444
Thank you all for the great feedback! Keep em coming
thanks a lot . according to profit . it every month if my pc still plot . or what . if i didn't add any new hdd
Please make a video on harvesting. How to set up a second computer properly (I have heard you cannot run 2 nodes on the same network...)
What about Raid 0 for the final storage? Is doesn't hurt the capacity and provides better writing speeds. Would it help with the end of the plotting phase and/or the farming?
@@TheGugustar For Farming RAID is not recommended, I believe it is because it stores "duplicates" across harddrives? I could be completely wrong but from what I read its better not to use RAID with final storage, it wont help in any way
8c 16t can do 9 plots at a time, needs 32g's of ram
by far the best and the simplest video i saw in the past 2 months about chia , bravo my friend 👍👍👍
Thank you my friend ⛏️💙
Absolutely agree
Great video. Just got all my parts for my chia building. Nice to know other people are interested in this
There's a shortage right now for the equipment needed, but I've got a surplus in inventory. Call (941) 357-4655 and ask for Christian.
The Ultimate Chia Farming Guide ✨ this is the best video I've ever watched for chia. Thank you my Friend.
Aww thank you I appreciate that, I thought I didn't do so well but glad to hear otherwise 🙏⛏️
@@MiningChamber Any idea if the 1.1.5 version makes poolable plots ? Not sure what plots cand be used with future pools . . .
@@gigihulj6949 nothing is out for that yet as far as I know sorry
Best Chia review video ever, keep it up bro 👍🏻👍🏻
bruh you are just awesome i been watching so many video on chia past 2 weeks and had so many questions and after watching your video i got all my answers thnxs mate
The best video on Chia Plotting and Farming!
Thank you!!
Another fantastic video, keep it up my friend.
awesome video, thanks Mining Chamber!
Always a pleasure
Great Job my dude!
Allways 10 out of 10 video and guide!
thanks for the video!
Very nice video. Thanks
Welcome back guys
Very good point I'll add that to the pinned comment!
great video. thanks
so well explained
Brilliant video guide. Thanks man, much appreciated.
Hey fella,
Since you have the most information in your videos, is it possible for you to make a video on "How to mine Chia on multiple PCs"?
this video is too good. competition incoming! :)
So of I use a 3tb ssd for plotting using a amd 9590 and 64gb ram then farm them on 50tb of storage space. The calculator says its potential to make almost 2k a month average. Did I enter it wrong? After I farm them, do I have to just buy more storage or can they be deleted to rewarm to the hdd?
Hi i want to know if we cant re-use the hard drives after the mining? Like can we delete stuff and can re-use or the process damages the hard drive enough that its left to throw way.
Crazy how good this video was
Excellent video. You, Red Panda, BBT 🤙
So good explanation 🙂
For chiah coins network, are u able to withdraw from the mining wallet to an exchange remotely? Or must it be at the site of the mining rig…
One of the more concise Chia startup videos out there.... question tho - can the plots be deleted off the temp drive (nvme) after it hits 100% plotting and farming is started on the final destination drive
What do you use in the video to hold your mother board ?
I’m waiting for this as usual you explain very clear😎 goodjob bro!
Hope it helped!
well organised and detailed video.good stuff
type of format wether exFAT or NTFS for external hdd, does this matter too? some said exFAT slower than NTFS
So it damages the temporary drive and the final destination hard drives, i have a m2 on my pc i use for things but i have a slot for another so i could get that and use it for plotting to clean hard drives?
Does it damage anything else the cpu or anything?
hey so i have a doubt, i have an i5 9400F, 16gigs of ram and about 8tb of HDD space i can arrange. (1060 6gb graphics card) to earn and profit a decent bit, how much should i upgrade my ram and do i need to make any other changes to my pc? mobo :- B360MD Asus
Great video 👍👍👍
Do we have to continously buy drives once its full or does it ease or go over the plots again confused how that works.
I found my pc port no.8444 is closed and check other ports also closed, if the 8444 port closed, does this can get the coin? I check other non mining computer, the port is closed, how to solve this problem?
Hey, do you recommande using 2 pcie in raid O for ploting i got 2x 1.92 tb and i can do 10 parallele with 64g ram
I have to do my homework on that so I'll make sure to mention it in the plotting guide!
if i have only one spare HDD can i devide it in 2 partitions one for tem.files and other part for final destination will that make any difference????
You must run chia-pos ( plotter ) using two temp paths called -t, and -2; -t is the path to the NVME drive; -2 is a path to a ssd-sata drive
when the plot is complete 8-12 hours for temporary storage to offload the plot from the -t disk, chia-pos will transfer the plot ( 108gb ) from -2 file to your -d ( destination ) hdd drive when the plot is complete ( 8-12 hours )
If you try and point either -t or -2 to physical drives you will destroy them, I tried this just for fun last month, and I killed a 2tb WD blue HDD. I could reformat it, sequential writing of large files formatted with linux ZFS format is fine for physcial HDD's, random access of 1.5 Trillion r/w is NOT normal usage for a HDD.
You must understand that during the 8-12 hour process of "Plot file creation" that 1.5 Trillion read/write are done randomly to the drive, no commercial drive is designed for this abuse. People buy "USED" SAS drives are just getting sold a 'bill of goods', these disks got retired for a reason.
NEW SAS drives cost more than high-end NVME's.
Lastly, never use partitioned drives for plotting, must be formatted ext 'ZFS', 'discard' on linux, you must frequently 'trim' the SSD or it will slow to a crawl, 'discard' tells the OS to clean (run fstrim ) the NVME, its not an automatic process.
@@flicka401 thanks for the info man
Hi.. i connected everything as it shows in the video, but my rig doesn't turn on
What did i do wrong ???
do you think i could fill up 5TB HD on another PC an then install the HD on my main PC ? i am looking for way to maximize plotting . i can not get the powershell to do the harvesting
after i filled my hdd's i can disconnect them ? o should they stay connect to PC
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Gr8 video mate the way you simplify things is just awesome I was very confused but now most of my doubts are cleared cheers bro thanks for the video keep making ❤️❤️❤️❤️🎉🙏 gr8 content
Glad to hear my friend thank you!
does setting up a more expensive rig mean more profitability per TB of storage or does it just mean that you're able to set up your plots faster?
Yes so just faster plotting, earning remains the same
Why did you change your thread to 4 threads for log one and why not just keep it at 2? Moreover if I have 12 threads do I need to put it to 4?
How long does it take for a plot to finish with a relatively fast nvme gen 4?
The only video you need to see on RUclips to start mining Chia. Thanks my friend. Will recommend and share for sure. Keep up the work and consistency. Your content goes great. Thanks for the deep information that helped alot. ❤️. LOVE from INDIA.🇮🇳
Its always a pleasure my friend thank you!!
Curious is it more "worth it" to go with 1 24 core 48 thread cpu to plot or go with multiple smaller core/thread cpus multiplying how many parralel plottings you can do ... seems like there would be a break even on 1 vr multiple speed vrs multiples at slower rates ... sorry if this isnt technical speak ... just curious (also the cost of the highest end cpu versus multiple lower ones)
Oh question once the drives are full does it get wiped and starts from scratch what do you do with a drive that is full of the saved plots???
So If i have 3 HDD (10 tb each) and 1 SDD (2 tb), I would plot from SSD then farm with HDD. What do you do after plotting, would you have to go back in the plotting menu and create another set to the same HDD?
Yes, you need to re-create plots until all your HDD full.
As Always you are the best
You are the best
My system creates a plot but it doesn't move to farming, what's wrong?
Lets say I have a 500 gb ssd and 1tb hdd, I will use ssd for plotting and use hdd for saving my plots. After the hdd full, what does happen? Does my mining (farming?) stop? Or I just sit and wait for win after hdd is full with plots and ssd’s job is over?
hi having a good day/ evening . what happened when final desk full ,
1.insert new hard drive
2. still get money from previous hard drive .
3. can you explain plz thanks
when disk is full with plots then its just farming after, you can put new harddrive and plot it too after.
Great video as always! Your attention to detail is superb👌🏼
As far as Chia mining goes, without the pools enabled it really is more of a lottery and a long term gamble since there are so many factors involved which influence the reward, and all it would take is for a big corporation to set up the operation with a few warehouses and the "time to win" (which sounds like a casino anyway) would sky rocket as it already has given the amount of people getting into this. I fear that a lot of people will be stuck in a constant loop of chasing the "winnings" by buying more gear whilst racking up a massive electrical bill (which they might not even be able to afford) given that there is no earnings coming in from this venture, turning it more into a liability rather than a passive income generating asset.
Absolutely well said! Hopefully once pools are out it becomes more constant payouts rather than lottery
can i mine this together with monero? wont it lower my monero hashrate?
Very helpful. Thank you!
*Hi Have you make any videos showing how to mine on cloud computing platforms like azure as aws ?*
Hi. I have a similar hardware setup. How much ware does this cause on your ssd & what's the life expectancy?
Depends on your TBW. I talk about it in the min specs part
Noti gang!
:D
Quick questions, sorry for the newbie question, I noticed after a week of plotting/farming I would always hit 1/30 plots passed filter.
1. Is that 1/30 really accurate? just one?
2. also, are my connections correct?
my farmer and wallet are addressed to 127.0.0.1, while full nodes are connected to three different addresses
My worry is that I set this up based on the available tutorial over youtube (random people) and that I might be missing something. Can anyone help?
Will it not be ok to, for instance, get a high-end laptop with 3 x usb slots and plug in 3 times 5gb hard drives in it. That means for eg. laptop is 2 tb and each hard drive 5tb that means 17 TB of space. Is it not that simple? What am I missing?
Question: can i use multiple HDD (final size) with different GB, like 5 HDD and merge them together in one partition, is it a good thing?
Yes for sure can!
Hello. I am calling from Iran. I have a very small farm. It has been a few days since I encountered a problem in Chia Farm. The wallet syncs but the ful node does not sync and no matter what I do, it is not fixed. Please help me.
Quite an informative video, excellent work.
Welldone
After mine( 2 chia).what we ll sell it.then again our hard disk ll free
I have slow internet access. How do I know if I have enough data for mining?
One last question
Will I observe constant cpu work load 24/7 while plotting and will the ram be fully RESERVED for the plots ?...
The cpu workload is lessened after phase 1 but the ram I believe remains the same. The storage for sure remains the same
wow .. great job explaining that much of info ..keep it up highly recommended to watch
Nice, I’ve been thinking about pulling the trigger on a chia rig. This vid should help with that decision, thanks.
Hope it does!
Best video ever!
Thank you very much!
one of the best youtubers that's I've ever seen !
Thank you!!
@@MiningChamber thanks , you deserve all support ! and I recommend your channel to many friends ! you really make some awesome video here !! waiting for the next chia video ^^
Great video, thanks! Question, what if I use 5 different computers to prepare hard drives for mining. Let’s assume I have 100tb space ready for mining, what will be approximate daily earnings?
Thank you! Depends on the computers, follow I'll be going more in depth on that in the next chia video!
Awesome and simple explanation! Am waiting on a more advanced video on plotting using PowerShell and running multiple harvesters. Great work as always!!
Thank you! Coming soon!
What should be the average phase 1 plotting time for a 2tb nvme ssd?
I was happy to hear: “is a green coin, is with hard drives” but then: for low budget you need a minimum of 8 cores and 1 high quality ssd. :(
Yes... Very efficient and "green"...
Can I use the same set-up, to farm other coins ?
Can u help me to buy all and setup this l. Whats the total random cost of this all
Now let's hope I can get my hands on some suitable storage before everyone catches on. Already have a pretty boss spare system lying around. Would you recommend the Seagate firecuda drives?
Is it worth farming with a few spare hard drives on a system dedicated to GPU mining with a 4 thread CPU and 8GB of ram?
what happens if your farming for a while and want to move your plots to another drive? do those plots no longer work, or do they just have to sit on the new drive for some amount of time before they become possible winners again?
You simply just move them and nothing will change
At 27:46 shouldn't your initial space of plots be 0 TiB? Then you start plotting 2.5 TiB per day till you reach 92 TiB (Max total space of plots). Please correct me if I am wrong.
Yess my bad! I added a pinned comment on it, Im such a noob
This is awesome and comprehensive!!! Do you have an update for 2023? I’m a little late
I think it is not worth it
Nice thing is that most of my chia farming "investment" is stuff I wanted to buy anyway for later personal use: A 3900X, 32GB memory, a 64TB RAID5 enclosure, and an nvme drive (which I'm not actually using for plotting). The only real costs probably only for chia was an extra 5-bay enclosure for additional plotting. I have access to a few older SATA hard drives, so throwing ten or more of those at the plotter simultaneously is still reasonably fast but won't wreck any SSDs. Bonus: Since I have extra threads available, I can mine Verus with the cpu!
Nicee I like seeing creative ways, I need to look into verus for sure!
John, just don't use RAID for the actual long-term storage of the plots. You want to maximize your storage capacity to give you the largest number of plots possible. If you can find a used JBOD server that would be more ideal than the limited 5-bay enclosure (assuming you want to grow your Chia storage large).
Best Vid Out On Chia! Thank you watched 3 x.
Can One expect never stop , plotting as keep in race ahead of the ever expanding ( odds getting paid)?
I noticed the hard drives are out of stock over priced.
Do You see stopping at (1000 plots) or never stop buying HD and constant plotting.
( pools make this problem worst?)
One must keep ahead of this , until people drop out, Not getting paid ever.
More like playing Bingo.......Just keep buying more and more cards...
i card guy can win not very likely.
Thanks help
Mike
Thank you!! Yes right now it's a race for sure. If your planning to make good money out of this then youl constantly need to increase your plots which can get really expensive. Maybe once pools are public it will give more hope to small time miners like us
Why bother with Chia coins? it is new Soon be #2 coin .
No GPU's Needed, Lot easer build hard drives than GPU's
It politically better coin, low carbon foot print.
Proof of space & Proof of Time. No 1599 out there get you in July ( or when ever).
The bottle necks are the hard drives / plotting computer.
(A) As of last night and this morning I been able purchase on line ( no standing in line over night) $22 a Ter Bite same price as always been.
I am "Not Paying" $1,000 or $2,000 For a Seagate HDD ( least Not yet I will not)!
( B) You do a build end up one heck of a computer( all goes to 0 )
( C) by default you are creating your own server.( tons of space)
Best part Of Chia Is the way get people to quit.
Shows ( estimate ) how long it takes to "Win" And as more people get in harder it is .
Proof of work Miners are Very Poor choice for Chia, too slow.
Chia Is Not I say again It is NOT Mining it is Hidden investing( space and time)
( not proof of work Or Stake). You can sell off your plots.......
Chia Is like going to BINGO hall .
You playing ( against)with 60-80 year old women from church.
Every body has" a system ". Some old Gal just buy ( Plotting 1 plot ) 1 bingo card.
See some have 2 or 3 cards .....That one lady walks in , has A bag ( tricks). Has highlighter and clips and reading glasses.
She buys 50 -100 cards a round, has helpers to scan all the cards...( parallel plotting)
The Big round cage on stage started up and start reading off Numbers.
O 64! B 19 C 28 ect.
who going to win ?? well One lady Has one Card yells out Bingo!!!!
If she has right numbers 1 card will win. All people have mult(pool) cards cry out "Why"
Most likely that one lady , has all 50 100 ( plots) has better chance.
The one lady who on side line who has no cards is one only know for certain what out come for her is.
If Going play one card ....play one card.
Not going play any cards Great.
When the one person who has 50 - 100(plots or more) bingo cards walks out with the grand prize well not by accident.
( the Coins of Chia) most likely has played game long term.
5 years before see what Chia will become.
(2009 in world bit coin for Chia to day )
Mike
So 256 gb temporary storage allows 1 plot ? So 2Tb hypothetically can allow 7 plots ?
Do you think we can use 192 gb RAM disk for temporary storage instead of ssd ? Or can we even use normal hdd for temporary storage I just don’t like the idea of using ssds for temporary storage and wear them over time…
Caviar on this video, Thnx !!
vamo papa gracias!!
Can you tell us, what your daily mining is now that Chia is at $30? thanx
FINALLY
Sound like you’ve been watching der8auer but its all good!!! Good info is Good info… Nice video!!!👍🏾
I did see his video on the topic! I definitely learned alot from so many awesome content creators - thank you!!
@@MiningChamber It’s all good bro! Over 70% of your video had a different flavor and totally different end concept! There’s a reason I’m subscribed to you both!!! Viele gruesse aus USA
I'm just learning and starting on gpu mining very late compared to many... yet now I find out hard drive mining, WiFi hotspot mining helium, cpu mining etc
What to choose....
How many plots can I get for one 18th hard disc?
Possible to mix chia farming and bitcoin mining in a single PC ?? Can they run parallel??
U.2 Drives like the Intel DC D7 P4510 is a good for Chia on paper because the PCI-E speed unlike SATA III and they are meant to last much longer than consumer SSDs
I have an i7 on my 8 GPU mining rig can I mine chia while mining my 8 GPUs?
newbie here what happens if my plot ssd drive full for temp drives ? delete the files manually ? any automated software ? thanks
Use SSD only for temporary drive for plotting and standard HDD for storing/farming. When plotting is completed the temporary files are automaticaly deleted from the SSD. And also have a little more space than needed just in case and it is healthier for the SSD too, and don't forget to leave some space on local (Win) drive too.
@@iMakeFunWithFish Thank you . am usung ubuntu os with Swar for plotting . Since have couple of Dell R910 with 24core and 24 thread processor , 128GB ECC ram . I managed to get 2 Intel 1.92TB PCIE express u.2 with nvme 2 units , 3 intel ssd1.92TB , 10G fiber network card . Now waiting Fiber switch transceiver and setup my nas for this machine to plot into . cant wait to try it out how much can plot to the harvester ( total 691TB Raid 0 Raw data).
Once your hard drives have been plotted, do you ever have to "replot" them or are they forever plotted, unless you change your wallet address?
so far you dont but there is a thing about the k32 k33 that I need to look more into I will do a full update on that topic in the next part of this video!
great explanation! So when pooling start, do we need to re-plot again if we want to join pools?
Yes