Bad REFS = Bad POLICE
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- Опубликовано: 20 ноя 2023
- Gilbert Arenas CALLS OUT NBA Refs For Being Too Sensitive As he and The Gil's Arena Crew discuss the recent ejection of Nikola Jokic and discuss why NBA Referees are too emotional to proper officiate live NBA Games.
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Its weird that on one hand they're trying to get more viewership with this in-season tournament, in the hopes that it makes the play more competitive during the regular season. But then on the otherhand they're happy to let the referees eject star players for being competitive and doing things like staredowns for example. Just such a dumb problem to be having, and could easily be solved by giving the referees a real consequence for acting emotional.
We are in THE REGULAR SEASON -REGULAR SEASON now or are you dumb? regular season began in OCTOBER DUMBO
Totally agree.
Samething with load mamagement. Players cant just sit out but the refs just eject a player lol
The second Jokic got ejected I cut the game off and Ik I’m not the only one
I don´t get you guys. This are the rules and refs did nothing that ain´t in the rule book. If those rules are good or not is another topic, but refs are just doing their job according to the rules that are valid for 23/24 season. You should bash the NBA front office for telling them to enforce those rules. For refs it´s just a job with a boss in their backs who tells them what to do. Just like you and I are doing what our boss tell us to do. SOmetimes you don´t like it and you know this "project" is going to fail, but you do what you are told to do. Officiating games ain´t a walk in the park.
True! Refs should be able to get fined for bad calls
All i know is once playoffs start they know to act right always only reg season because let Giannis get ejected out of playoffs game for Flexing a Dunk Adam silver wont live 24 hours
They should at least have to explain why they give a tech. They shouldn't be able to just say technical foul on whoever without explaining why as well. I think if the league implements that then we would see alot less Techs and ejections.
It won’t legally stand
Should players be fined for missing shots?
Players are paid to do more than just make shots. Refs job is to get the call right. That’s their job
I love that analogy by Gil. They’re supposed to be the most cool, calm, and collected people. But cops and refs are always the most emotional and likely to have incendiary reactions to other people’s emotions, which only makes the situation even worse. Quit the job if you’ve become too emotionally invested.
And just like cops they don’t really get punished. So what’s to deter them from doing it again. Being ejected off techs shouldn’t be a thing. You should be able to get as many techs as possible and the coach is going to straighten it out. But ejecting a player for arguing their missed call is stupid.
"that's why I call them police" Gil just hilarious without trying 😂
The young lady brought and intelligent question immediately. What is the criteria, or what are the criteria that can lead to a technical or an ejection? There is no real uniformity because they're all individuals. It's subjective as hell. Shaad saying dude had a "Sassy Ass way of Reffin" is a trip 😂
There is a list of auto ejections. It's basically fighting and aggressively touching or coming at a ref, there might be something else that I'm missing. Other than that, 2 ts is automatic ejection, no exceptions.
I think NBA players need to not complain about every call.
Ref gave Kuminga a tech for clapping his hands twice after a foul call. SMH.
That's crazy 😂
I don’t even think he clapped twice 😂
Tatum got a tech for clapping too hard/loud
Do y'all remember when Tim Duncan was ejected from the game for laughing😂 on the BENCH. Tim wasn't even in the fkn game playing and these punk ass refs ejected him!😒 The refs have way too much power man it's ridiculous 🙄 and then ejecting whole star players that people pay top 💵 💲 to see and could determine whether a team win or lose🤦♂️🤷♂️.
@@Bo55edupgood ol Joey Crawford 😭
Adam Silver wants to increase viewership but the refs are apart of that but nobody asks him questions about it when he's being interviewed. Someone has to put him on the hot seat and question why these refs are doing this with no penalties, you want to limit players resting but players and coaches getting ejected over the smallest things.
Problem is it is unapoken if not outright said (there is ALWAYS a list of topics that you can can not talk about. When you get interviews like this.) ask about refs and good luck getting another interview.
"Unsportsmanlike conduct" opened the floodgates for bad refs to prioritize attitude and presentation over skill and game play.
It’s the equivalent to “disorderly conduct”; once a cop tells you that he’s about to do whatever he wants to you.
The refs are the main reasons I don’t watch as much basketball as before.
Mine is the blatant traveling and nobody says nothing, including the announcers, and the flopping like a fish over any little touch.
This is facts…
When tim duncan got a tech for staring and laughing dude should of got fined 6 figures
I remember that
Bruh was the worst.
Rasheed Wallace got ejecting for staring at the ref that was crazy 😂
Nothing beat Tim Duncan's tech 🤣
"I told him to stop trying to intimidate me"
@@moustaphamoussabouh9985Tim Duncan literally doesn't say anything.
gill been giving us nothing but gospel 💯😂😂😂💪🏽
Gil has given us nothing
@@darrengordon-hill you must be one of those un-athletic types of guys to not agree with gill on this 😂
@@moneyman90sbaby
Gil wants no interference from refs..
EXCEPT to point out when opponents are wronging HIM.
This has always been the way!!
Gilbert will NEVER tell you about the calls that went in his favour... ONLY those that go against him.
Just like that Napoleon complex having midget Fred Van Vleet.
Show me an example of Gilbert calling out bad refs ON BEHALF OF HIS OPPONENT....
@@darrengordon-hillhe's already said the things refs let him get away with, such as digging into hips on post defense or headhunting for fouls.
I’m sure that they are all playing DraftKings too. Since they can control the game, they probably have their family members betting on games that they are refereeing
This is what I am worried about, honestly. Like, there was cheating when sports betting was illegal, and the money was all off the books. Now its a multi-billion dollar national industry - the sheer amount of cash being raked in every night, every game, is unbelievable.
Some of these refs need to be issued a technical for how they screw up the vibe of the game.🥴 They mess it up for the fans & the players.
It's also a way for the NBA to get money from players too😂😂😂
Why are players fined eveytime they complain about a ref bad call to the media or social media? It's like the NBA don't want it mainstream how horrible a foul, tech or toss was.
No its because if you complain about refs you complain about the league. And thats a bad image that can potentially lose money
@@stefanokic406 it's clearly a bad image when a ref toss/tech a player for looking at another player, toss/tech for laughing, tossed/tech for just being excited to make a play.
@@Daffy_C change the rules then its not all on refs. Whenever there is a little bit of taunting after that brawl people get a tech
Great Content
this has been going on for years now and yet somehow never gets addressed as a priority during the CBA
More NBA players should be talking about this topic. The refs have too much power and they purposely shut down players they don’t like or disagree with💯
Gil when you compare the refs to cops 🎯🎯
Yeah, it's like comparing monkeys to BLM people. 😂
i always thought of the refs as the crooks who rob/steal the game
that’s why they wear black and white pinstripes like burgalars in cartoons
Nba and nfl is the only heavily officiating sports where the officials have the power to control the entire game
At least in the NFL it’s basically just bad calls with ejections only coming from dirty hits..The NBA has bad calls and players get ejected for the dumbest shit ever..I still have nightmares about Duncan getting ejected while sitting on the bench
Rashaad said this one perfectly ! It hurts the most when it feels like you’ve been cheated !
Dawg preach Gil took us to church with this one fr 😂 str8 facts
1:06 This “emotional” rant is brilliant and so true.
Should start a " Fine the Refs" chant in every game
Right!✅️. Instead of the 🗣"ref you suck!"
One of the best vids by them
I'm so glad they're given awareness to this. Because these Referees need to be more disciplined If they're going to be doing this kind of job
The NBA has became soft. They’ve taken the emotion, toughness, and the little bit of physicality that comes with ball. I’m all for player health and safety, but these regular fouls that were in the 80-00s are now flagrant and techs.
@15:28 🤣🤣🤣 McCants kills me bruh
A good comparison is soccer when it comes to the celebration, when they score there’s no yellow card (equivalent to a tech for the most part) or punishment as long as it’s not super crazy over the top or they take their jersey off. No reason for players getting a tech in basketball after they make a good play and wanna celebrate. Like they said it’s apart of sports.
These titles hilarious
hadn’t we already had this conversation 🙄
The reffing this season seems almost intended to mess up the flow - the Boston/Memphis game the other night was a frigging *mess*. I've never seen so many offensive foul calls, travels, just constantly killing the flow of the game and stopping things. And, like, I know some folks complained, but I didnt even think it was unbalanced - it was just impossible for players to adjust to what the refs were calling, bc it kept changing.
Have you considered that players can STOP TRAVELLING????
Yeah, traveling and carrying are two of the things that should be focused on for sure.
@@darrengordon-hill I mean, yeah, but it's not called 99% of the time, and hasnt been for years. So it's really weird when the refs call it, like, 4 times in one quarter. Consistency is what's important.
@@TheArpit1ish Oh, I disagree entirely. Both of those things happen constantly - like holding in football. If refs focus on that, the game grinds to a halt. It's been years since traveling has been called the way the rules are written, if they start enforcing it, the games collapse, bc what the players expect - specifically bc the refs havent called it that way for ages - is different than what is in the rules.
Same with carrying - almost every carry violation I see is when a guy is bringing the ball across half court. No one trying to take it, play hasnt really started - just moving from one zone to the next. Who cares? Who watches the game and thinks 'damn, that guy keeps carrying one time when he's crossing the logo and calling out a play, they deserve to lose the ball'?
@@Mitch_Feral Yeah, no one cares when it's someone bringing the ball up but when players carry to cross someone over or to get out of a tough situation, then that's a problem because there good defense is being punished.
Im glad gil made this an episode cause it really needed to be said and not the politically correct way as real and raw as possible. I hope this gets saturated with the league
She looking better and better every episode
my most favorite techs are on TIM DUNCAN sitting on the bench lmao, as a player laughing and another one in a suit lmao... sitting on the bench lol
I was saying the same thing about ref for years they have too much power
Scott Foster ejecting a 40 yr old CP3 and gifting the Suns 52 free throws is crazy...
the be securing that parlay lmaoo
As soon as i turned this video off i turned on the hawks game & Trae got a tech for coming at the ref for calling the foul on the floor instead of shooting for the 3rd time of the game. Funny asf😂😂
Techs, ejections, and flagrants should honestly be handled by officials who are on the sidelines behind a monitor. They can review critical plays on the screen (like the Draymond-Gobert incident) and decide who gets techs, ejected, etc. I think that removes the emotional responses these on-the-court refs keep displaying today.
Gil is so on point! 💯 Insecure, emotional wannabes just power-tripping should NOT be the ones holding all that power!
These refs can literally impact the team standings, all bc of their biased calls and no-calls and then these reckless techs and throwing out key players.
Damn the in-season tournament- THIS needs to be Job #1 for Adam Silver to address
I fucking got a toothpaste sensitivity ad lmaooooo
it’s the same in football. The premier league, la liga and brazilian league are even more ruthless when players lose their emotions at the ref
This relates to Police Officers as well
I truly think the fans and players should make an example out of one of the refs frfr. So the nba itself feel the frustration
Let the players celebrate ‼️‼️‼️
They need to add warning tech for them if shit get emotional
What really has been up with the refs this season like wtf
I hope the NBA finds a way to fine this Refs
Fine them? FIRE THEM! If they are too biased or blind to get the calls right, then too emotional about getting called out about it then why should they still have the jobs?
Gil summed it up nicely with acknowledging that it is "sports entertainment." Good job ruining an entire game because you want to act like you, as a referee, are God's gift to the court. Nobody is paying to watch you. It also bleeds into so many other areas of the game. If players can get a technical just for celebrating, yelling and "taunting" then imagine what happens if they get a little more physical? How are they supposed to hype up a crowd and want to perform if they gotta walk on eggshells every position? Not to mention some of the betting accusations and they're getting paid 6 figure salaries with no repercussion. Shits whack af.
Somebody teach Gill how to say Thing and not Ding lol
I used to love when Ms.Violet reffed games
Hilarious the cp3 Scott foster happened the day after this😂and cp3 actually called him a Bxtch😂😂
Just keep the game going and let the player make the decision to risk a defensive play to celebrate. Otherwise, it's just a human emotion and just let it go.
I’ve always seen refs as cops lol
Gilbert should really be a member of the Players Association. He’s making C.P. valid points that would make the NBA better.
Business before Basketball... don't wanna lose revenue for fights or whatever soo yea... in the NBA they are more policing... Highschool it's rules against taunting cursing etc etc
With the way these refs act, I’m impressed that the players don’t get violent with them after the games 😂😂😂
Disrespect shouldn't be tolerated. Even if it is ref. At least on that subject. Feelings- Disrespect. Giving a tech for Disrespect a boss move lol.
Refs seriously need to be fined for terrible calls. I get its a hard job. But the reffing this year is just terrible
They never will they are the leagues children
I feel like, sure give them tech fouls, but you should only be ejected if you commit a flagrant. Otherwise, techs should just count towards your regular foul count
Gonna have to pull the Larry Johnson, yell While Ya Dunk.
😂 everybody should be accountable for emotional control
My solution for this would make it fair for both sides
Instead of techs being the first Punishment players should be accessed 2 “ warnings” wether it’s for a taunt, excessive trash talk, or disrespecting the refs
And with these warnings there are no free throws or anything just a warning ⛔️
And then after those two warnings have been accessed and the player keeps going then techs can start to come into place
I feel like giving warnings before techs will give players more room to show emotion and taunt
Kinda like it ngl🤔
Ultimately these refs have to get checked. NFL NBA MLB these officials ruin potential runs and momentum with bullshit ass calls and they could care less
Agreed by Gil. These refs are out of hand
Imagine the refs ejected or gave Lebron james a tech for celebrating passing up kareem in points😂😂😂 same shit man, people are excited and hyped when they do incredible shit. Let the players play!
I wanna see them hire some good former players.
A lot of the "smaller" presences in media would be great.
JJ, Crawford, Richard Jefferson. Reggie Miller would be f*ing awesome. Some guys who know the rules better than most but also understand the emotions better than anybody.
This is y soccer ref still have that old school mentally.
It all falls into the rule new change, it just hit joker first
That shirt Gill has on is fire
These Refs are The Superstars now.
This remind me of that time the refs went after AI
People paying money then showing up to watch the stars, then the referee ejects the stars out the game🤦🏼♂️
there not even trying 2 hide rigging games anymore
give it time they will give the fans TS soon
I wonder if this is the leagues’s response to Ja and all his antics last season
I think that should have warning for excessive taunting/ celebration, but only use a technical foul if the player get mutiple warning in a row.
I just don't understand how these refs are so sensitive when they know they are officiating grown men dosen't make any sense u would think the refs would have tougher skin 🤷🏾♂️
I don't understand how players are so sensitive...
Refs are so quick with the techs because its their way od bossing around young rich Black men!
Only person missing from this convo is RASHEED WALLACE! 😂😂😂
Coaches have pressure from the mafia 😂😂😂
Authority that goes unchecked without consequences, will be corrupt.
We missed Kenyon on this one
Refs giving out techs is they way of giving out tickets 🤣🤣
Good point you want to know when they get fined so you can bait them
4 Red Bulls! That’s insane lol
That’s crazy NBA players are the most emotional athletes
The irony of this thumbnail foster strikes again
It’s hard for certain officials to advance…. The network is more concerned with meeting a quota that’s how we have Terrible Asian ref, horrible Eat Indian, shaky woman refs, old officials who have clearly aged out are on every game. I officiate men’s college basketball for 5 years I’ve only given 1 tech.
lol then try and go to the nba and ref!
The issue is a simple fix the problem is the league is too cowardly to hold refs accountable. It’s insane how players are held to such a high standard in the heat of battle they get no wiggle room get an official who is the coolest calmest in the building can get emotional and make bad calls with no repercussions? A player goes off in the media it’s a fine. An egregious tech or toss out should result in a fine too. But like I said, cowards are running the league
3xactly the league should make it almost impossible for a player to get ejected.
They just implemented a rule for load management because they want players to play and the fan to see stars.
The point is for the league to have the best product on the court for fans to consume.
I dont even think players should be able to foul out because again ita a bout the players playing.
If the league continues like this teams will just start having their stars get ejected to get around load management rule.
Player dicksucker!
"The government should ban speeding"
Or you could learn to drive within the limit!
If you can't play defense without fouling out every game, you suck at defence!
Why not put a committee in the game that can review or reverse the referee's questionable call if needed? Also, penalize the ref financially if he is wrong and not just suspended.
To be fair when a player threatens my family I’m definitely gonna make sure you get bad calls every night you can only be professional so long is it fair no but sometimes the game goes that way
Gil high asf
AD hung on the rim for barely 2 seconds the other night and got a tech😢😢
Hey Gil, wanna change something? How about you get your ref license and start officiating games?
The real question was articulated during this clip in different way: "what is the purpose of the referee?" Are they merely a guardian of the technical aspects of the game? Are they the NBA morality police? Are they there for safety? Are they there for any other purposes other than to enforce the actual rules? The NBA needs to be extremely clear about what referees are there for. Referees should be impartial, dispassionate and disciplined. Beyond that we need to understand clearly what their role is.
So if someone dog cussed you you would just take it? Nope you would refer to some respect code and go right back at then
Only way to fix this is for NBA to present 5 refs for each game and each team can reject one ref.
Some of these refs wouldn't have game all season
Weak