This is the new meta for pro play. 2 v 2 except it's 1 on 1. Can you imagine the pros playing two races simultaneously against each other?! Make this happen, Marc.
@@BrianBernardEngineering there's a mod when you play with Multicenter as a first building (builds T and P workers, spawns larvae and provide creep) and can develop all tech trees and build on your own creep.
> logistics is forever Not so pleasant news: it also vanishes. I was very good in SC:BW. Decent in WoL. But then it is all gone. As a man you have your peak years in 10-25 yo (yes, that is the time when you despirately want a gf, but don't have one). Later you have money. So you have a gf (never marry my friend - marriage is about "your woman can divource rape you off your hard earned property - that is all to it). By the age of 25 you are out of luck becoming an Olympic chanpion, out of luck becoming an sc2 champion (there are exceptions to this rule). Howerer, you have money, stable income (hence a woman latched onto your fat wallet). And you are fine healthwise up until you are in your 50+ yo. You'd have a shaky road (midage crisis), but this is ok. Then you change stuff. No more love protection equipment but blood pressure measurement equipment instead. Being old is not that bad if you consider an alternative.
@@samtux762 maybe the reason the women you have married have only married you for your money is because are the only women who are able to tolerate your misogyny.
JFC you’re awful. Appropriating and misusing the word rape to make fun of it and cynically use it against women painting them as these money hungry heathens that universally prey on men and are totally grossly using that as a way to cynically cover up the truth being the exact opposite, that men systematically do violence to women and assault them. JFC go fuck yourself toxic asshole.
"I know you guys think I'm stubborn right now... and honestly I am a little bit, but I'm set on my strategy and I believe in it". Yes, being set on your strategy no matter what is called being stubborn. :D Great video though as usual!
Im not gonna lie, i was putting myself in the teammates shoes and feeling his anxiety about you not making units. it would have been so painful to be your teammate...but absolutely hilarious to watch as an observer!
Yea but also the teammate expanded slowly, never pressured while thermy was building cannons, and was slow to defend at home. Was a weird situation, to be fair.
> the teammate chose a poor stratedgy of not expanding. I would have. The strategy of Marc is shoking if you see it for the first time. Overall, good adaptation. This is just a game, much like soccer.
This has to be a new series @uthermal Get a friend around your rank to queue with you and resign at the start of the match. This would be so fun to watch, it feels like a whole new fresh side of the game you just discovered. You're the hybrid from campaign! Protoss-Zerg 2v1 to grandmaster!
Idea for a new series: You enter 3v3 with 2 preplanned teammates set up so that you are each a different race, then your teammates drop out and leave you to play all 3 races solo :) It was awesome seeing you multi task with both races, and it would be crazy to see some of your strats if you had all 3 races to combine!
Mutas have always been one of my fav units. Even way back in the first Starcraft game. Depending on the choices the Terran player makes it can either be really easy to gut them or really hard. There is basically no in between lol. I have taken a HUGE break from the game but I have been watching you and getting that itch to play the game again..
Honestly, the one player on cannon support in allied mode enables so much more economy and unit variance for the ally if they know how to handle the extra resources effectively. It can be surprisingly effective
Idea : convince your mate to copy your strategy and both go double proxy hatchery so 4 proxy hatchs in the opponent's face 😈 then maybe go swarmhost! 2v2 is awesome 👍
I still remember some years ago that a guy said "Hi marc, what is the bullshit of today" and uThermal said "nah, playing normal build" and he replied "yeah right" and then it was something like this video.
I don't know why people are so upset when a toss player cheeses like this, I've found this sort of thing hilarious 20 years ago, and it was more painful to cheese back then (slightly harder to queue buildings, for example). As someone who cannon rushed AI and DT rushed human players (and got smashed by reaver drops), I say bring on the cheese.
Hey Marc! Been enjoying your 2v2 strats. I have been trying to mimic you on the ladder and my teammates haven't been too happy. I did win a game with a PF rush yesterday though it was pretty silly.
13:27 triple expand from the zerg, it's very cheap, and the supply of their workers doesn't count against your troops. I learned that trick on Co-op. It makes the missions with larger attack waves easier to manage with just your troops. And if the other commander is very "a-movable" then I can try to do that as well.
New Series idea: Surprise multirace. Just when teammate leaves you with two races, switch to some cursed combinations that you normally can't make. Hydra medivac. Marauder sentry.
ok but what if you queue with yourself on another account, leave, then control both and do wacky cross-race things like medivacs dropping/healing biological zerg/protoss units or scvs repairing colossi/carriers
on the 1st game with the prism, i wished he crawled his cannons instead of building it directly on the mineral lines on the last game, cannon rush with overlord vision would've been pretty strong
I'm really surprised why no Pilon and canons were built in fog of war at the base below in the first match. Then Zerg would have had something to chew on and the pilots and the Prism wouldn't have died instantly. 6:22 and 9:16
Buddys off playing some starcraft while Marc playing SimCity. 10:33 'Im going to wall with the gateway here, and where will I put this pylon.' Jumps in prism, just out. Just vibing. The was just so much to watch :)
I think it can work with more communication. You tried to do something without any distraction. Ask him for a fake attack then you can try to go build in the base.
Teal Terran from the last game played very well... I felt he was the reason you lost... But to be fair, I thought the game was lost 10mn before actual gg. Insane that you managed to survive so long!
Amazing! Uthermal you should do a challenge where you only play defense and protect your teammate and your half of the map. Feed your partner and let him go pure offense. You can't cross.
@AquaCoalaNest please elaborate. The challenge i posted was almost exactly like this video he posted except he can't cross the map. That's a huge handicap.
10:00 if you build a cannon or two behind some gateways the zerg has nothing that can stop it because the gates act like beefy health while the cannons fire on the enemy units.... unless the zerg brings like 20-30 roaches.. not cost effective trades
I'm watching this right after the last 2v2 video where he built turrets for his teammate because he was afraid of drops. It hurts to see him not putting any cannons down at the edge even after the first Nydus popped up in his base. 😑
This is the new meta for pro play. 2 v 2 except it's 1 on 1. Can you imagine the pros playing two races simultaneously against each other?! Make this happen, Marc.
It needs a name to distinguish from true 2v2. Like “Doubles” or something.
This is the natural evolution of how one demonstrates skill
There are 3 races. This should be 3v3.
@@lukeamstutz4981 1.5 vs 1.5
@@BrianBernardEngineering there's a mod when you play with Multicenter as a first building (builds T and P workers, spawns larvae and provide creep) and can develop all tech trees and build on your own creep.
teammate: will you please stop building cannons?
uThermal: Would you like some money?
uThermal: I will build some cannons
teamate: nice
......10 minutes later
Teamate: please no more cannons
uThermal: hit-n-run cannons *intensifies*
he was lucky this mate was goated tho xD
😂😂😂😂
only uthermal cann contain his enemies and simultaneously wonder "why the zerg is at home"
It's always amazing seeing pro (or ex pro) players managing 2 or 3 economies at once, even if they are of different races and still win.
The reaction skills may be down, but logistics is forever
> logistics is forever
Not so pleasant news: it also vanishes. I was very good in SC:BW. Decent in WoL. But then it is all gone. As a man you have your peak years in 10-25 yo (yes, that is the time when you despirately want a gf, but don't have one). Later you have money. So you have a gf (never marry my friend - marriage is about "your woman can divource rape you off your hard earned property - that is all to it).
By the age of 25 you are out of luck becoming an Olympic chanpion, out of luck becoming an sc2 champion (there are exceptions to this rule).
Howerer, you have money, stable income (hence a woman latched onto your fat wallet). And you are fine healthwise up until you are in your 50+ yo. You'd have a shaky road (midage crisis), but this is ok. Then you change stuff. No more love protection equipment but blood pressure measurement equipment instead. Being old is not that bad if you consider an alternative.
@@samtux762 maybe the reason the women you have married have only married you for your money is because are the only women who are able to tolerate your misogyny.
@@samtux762I would have never expected such a deep comment here 😮
JFC you’re awful. Appropriating and misusing the word rape to make fun of it and cynically use it against women painting them as these money hungry heathens that universally prey on men and are totally grossly using that as a way to cynically cover up the truth being the exact opposite, that men systematically do violence to women and assault them. JFC go fuck yourself toxic asshole.
"I know you guys think I'm stubborn right now... and honestly I am a little bit, but I'm set on my strategy and I believe in it".
Yes, being set on your strategy no matter what is called being stubborn. :D
Great video though as usual!
Yo super impressive. The ability to manage two economies and still commentate through it all. GOAT.
Team mate: Is there a limit?
uThermal: not yet!
Me: Limit? You nuts? There's no limit on buildings!
So glad to see 2v2 content. It seems so much fun with the social aspect and Marc brings his good vibe to others. I wanted to see that for a while.
"oh i think my probe is winning, im gonna.." *(probe dies)* "oh im stupid"
xD
Im not gonna lie, i was putting myself in the teammates shoes and feeling his anxiety about you not making units. it would have been so painful to be your teammate...but absolutely hilarious to watch as an observer!
im LOVING this 2v2 stuff, got me and my friends back into the game. ty marc for the awesome content!
the first one was painful to watch on behalf of your teammate ngl
nah teammate was asleep at the wheel bc he was tilted. that's his problem not uthermal's
Yea but also the teammate expanded slowly, never pressured while thermy was building cannons, and was slow to defend at home. Was a weird situation, to be fair.
If you play with a stranger teammate - be prepared for a rollercoaster. You've signed up for it. This is how it goes in irl and in the game.
> the teammate chose a poor stratedgy of not expanding.
I would have. The strategy of Marc is shoking if you see it for the first time.
Overall, good adaptation.
This is just a game, much like soccer.
Not really, people aren't "supposed" to play "correctly" in 4v4. If you hit play you sign up for these kinds of games
This has to be a new series @uthermal
Get a friend around your rank to queue with you and resign at the start of the match. This would be so fun to watch, it feels like a whole new fresh side of the game you just discovered. You're the hybrid from campaign! Protoss-Zerg 2v1 to grandmaster!
That would be so cool
Idea for a new series: You enter 3v3 with 2 preplanned teammates set up so that you are each a different race, then your teammates drop out and leave you to play all 3 races solo :)
It was awesome seeing you multi task with both races, and it would be crazy to see some of your strats if you had all 3 races to combine!
Thermy I'm the guy from the last game, can't believe I got to play with you. Let's run it back :-)
Also sorry we lost I'm terrible obv
@@muaddib3515 the mentality and willingness to play and adapt is peak
reminds me of when Scarlett used neural on a probe then built a nexus.
Love to see you play a zerg, steal a probe then make protoss units
uThermal: _surrounds enemy base with cannons_
Also uThrermal: "I dont know why the zerg is at home!"
New level of baboonery unlocked 😂
That 1 immortal holding against 2 tanks and 18 marines was frickin impressive though.
A 2v2 with you and Florencio teamed up would be absolute CHAOS for the enemies. Would be so fun to watch
I was thinking him and printf could perfect the 2v2 cannon rush
Your teammate's getting frustrated? I'M getting frustrated! Build some... ehh... untis, damnit!
I friggin loves all the 2v2 content! This is such a classic 2v2 game! Haha
First game guy might have been pissed at the end, but he sure came off looking like a beast.
To be fair, you didn't say ONLY cannons so they should assume you are insane.
That thumbnail got me 😂
me too xD
You've become the great evil you helped us defeat, I can't believe you would turn to the dark side. XD
the 2v2 content amplifies the craziness level - so good! thx man! 🙂
The sheer mental damage everyone in that first game took, teammate included 😂
the play of queueing with a random and them leaving you 2 options for cheese is goated
Mutas have always been one of my fav units. Even way back in the first Starcraft game. Depending on the choices the Terran player makes it can either be really easy to gut them or really hard. There is basically no in between lol.
I have taken a HUGE break from the game but I have been watching you and getting that itch to play the game again..
don't deny the itch, get back into sc2
Honestly, the one player on cannon support in allied mode enables so much more economy and unit variance for the ally if they know how to handle the extra resources effectively. It can be surprisingly effective
Idea : convince your mate to copy your strategy and both go double proxy hatchery so 4 proxy hatchs in the opponent's face 😈 then maybe go swarmhost! 2v2 is awesome 👍
6:07 - Thermy shocked being obliged to help his partner making units. 😂
Marc we don't all do 1v7 games!
12:40 - Welcome to non-GM world 😂❤
Thought this was a good old fashioned fast map NR 15 at first
I preferred fastest map zero clutter no rush until map max.
Damn it Thermy I was just about to go to bed 😂
I subscribed to the channel because of the ""Random 2v2/3v3" content. These videos are awesome! Thank you!
I still remember some years ago that a guy said "Hi marc, what is the bullshit of today" and uThermal said "nah, playing normal build" and he replied "yeah right" and then it was something like this video.
Needed this on a Monday morning. Really enjoy the 2v2 content 😊
6:45 thats so funny i nevr knew that cannons could be built under a warp prism...... i thought only the pylon crystal could do such a thing
I don't know why people are so upset when a toss player cheeses like this, I've found this sort of thing hilarious 20 years ago, and it was more painful to cheese back then (slightly harder to queue buildings, for example). As someone who cannon rushed AI and DT rushed human players (and got smashed by reaver drops), I say bring on the cheese.
These 2v2 videos are so fun to watch! Hope you keep pumping them out 🔥🔥🔥
Hey Marc! Been enjoying your 2v2 strats. I have been trying to mimic you on the ladder and my teammates haven't been too happy. I did win a game
with a PF rush yesterday though it was pretty silly.
Hallucinations cannon to GM 🤪 here we go! Naahhh NOT even YOU can make that happen..
Those guys were great in that last game!
If your prism with disruptors survived you woulda won that game.
Mutas are so darn weak
Mutas truly fell off
You're doing the Lord's work
that 2nd match 1v2 moment was hilarious lmao
even enemy lost against 1 player (control 2 player) 😂
If less than 50% of the map is covered by cannons, you need more cannons.
Rookie numbers
13:27 triple expand from the zerg, it's very cheap, and the supply of their workers doesn't count against your troops.
I learned that trick on Co-op. It makes the missions with larger attack waves easier to manage with just your troops. And if the other commander is very "a-movable" then I can try to do that as well.
8:07 the guy kills his own void ray lol
1:20 no matter where you're from, the other guy will always say "nice"
I asked for cannons, and he delivered exactly that. TY brother. I'll never forget.
New Series idea: Surprise multirace. Just when teammate leaves you with two races, switch to some cursed combinations that you normally can't make. Hydra medivac. Marauder sentry.
ok but what if you queue with yourself on another account, leave, then control both and do wacky cross-race things like medivacs dropping/healing biological zerg/protoss units or scvs repairing colossi/carriers
"need my team mate to keep up the good work" 😂😂 team mate suffering hahaha
I really like the 2v2 crazy stuff. Go on. Great games!
What about 2v2 cannon rush to grandmaster challenge?😄
mom, can we get thermal? we have thermal at home
thermal at home:
14:08 super easy solution, for the zerg enemy just use drones to make spines.. its the z version of cannon cheese lmao
I love you playing 2v2 cause it allows maximum troll builds
on the 1st game with the prism, i wished he crawled his cannons instead of building it directly on the mineral lines
on the last game, cannon rush with overlord vision would've been pretty strong
2v2 cannon rush where your partner just gives you money and expands actually seems unbeatable
Excellent video! I could feel the frustration on the first team mate ^^ Was the last one angry typing at you?
the thought of goku enjoying a game of sc2 is very fun to me
I'm really surprised why no Pilon and canons were built in fog of war at the base below in the first match. Then Zerg would have had something to chew on and the pilots and the Prism wouldn't have died instantly. 6:22 and 9:16
Would be amazing to see a 1v1 where you both play 2 races like in your second game … :)
is it still a cannon rush if it's 9 min into the game?
Buddys off playing some starcraft while Marc playing SimCity. 10:33 'Im going to wall with the gateway here, and where will I put this pylon.' Jumps in prism, just out. Just vibing. The was just so much to watch :)
6:45 if you walled off with gateways, that gets up :(
"Why is he asking me to make units?" 🤣🤣🤣
This will make you more famous. keep it up
Yes! Your cannon rushers are amazing! Thank you for the cheese!
Thermy was torturing his opponents for years, now it's time to torture his teammates or have the best composition ever.
The Thumbnail had me laughing before I even clicked :D
The thumbnail is hilarious. Screen full of cannons, just a couple more…
More of 2v2 terran, please.
I love other races (was random in my peak time), but now I like terran.
8:08 little bit of friendly fire
I think it can work with more communication. You tried to do something without any distraction. Ask him for a fake attack then you can try to go build in the base.
By far my favorite series
Teal Terran from the last game played very well... I felt he was the reason you lost...
But to be fair, I thought the game was lost 10mn before actual gg. Insane that you managed to survive so long!
Amazing! Uthermal you should do a challenge where you only play defense and protect your teammate and your half of the map. Feed your partner and let him go pure offense. You can't cross.
challange is fine in 1v1, screwing somebody because you make a challange and content is just an Ahole behaviour though.
@AquaCoalaNest huh?
@AquaCoalaNest please elaborate. The challenge i posted was almost exactly like this video he posted except he can't cross the map. That's a huge handicap.
10:00 if you build a cannon or two behind some gateways the zerg has nothing that can stop it because the gates act like beefy health while the cannons fire on the enemy units.... unless the zerg brings like 20-30 roaches.. not cost effective trades
I hope lordsansui sees this lol.
To be fair NA has the advantage of a common language. Not a lot of EU players talk due to often your teammate being from a different country
Wow you playing 2x races at the same time was bonkers. New challenge? How many races can uthermal control at the same time.
These videos are so cool. They don’t know they’re playing with a retired pro doing stupid stuff.
Sooner or later you where going to get someone leave on you, and cannon rush into ling flood is just what I was expecting from you:)
I'm watching this right after the last 2v2 video where he built turrets for his teammate because he was afraid of drops. It hurts to see him not putting any cannons down at the edge even after the first Nydus popped up in his base. 😑
poor thermal, he can micro 500 apm but he cannot stop his receding hairline..
That thumbnail is a banger
would love to see a cannon rush with teammate going for void ray spam
After seeing this, I'd be very interested to see if making the match against bronze players like a 2v8. With you controlling 2 separate economies
Hahah that third game was good, actually played somewhat "normal"
i have done the cannon battery forest in 4v4 matches, would even build defensive ones
2vs2 with randoms is a genius move
Fantastic video!!
Game 2 was incredibly impressive.
This is like the opposite of Archon Mode lol, 1 person two factions
Im loving the team game stuff!!!!!!
What can a teammate do against such reckless cannons?
Need to see more 2 race 2v1 challeges. protoss Cannons + Planetary Rushes. Ill que and leave for you.
This is canon in Protoss lore.