EZ Drummer Just Got Some SERIOUS Competition! ML Drums!
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- EZ Drummer just got some serious competition! Thanks for wathing my review and demo of the new ML Drums drumsampler by ML Sound Lab. Let me know in the comments what your thoughts are!
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Note: this is a paid video but all opinions and thoughts are as always 100& my own!
All the angry commentors...maybe try cleaning out your ears. 😆 This is the most natural sounding drum library I've heard (and I have most of the big ones, including the expansion packs). More, the presets are varied and ready to go out-of-the box - 100% unlike Toontrack and others that still require so much more post-adjustment. The drums (and most notably, the cymbals) don't have that weird boxy sound all the other do. Can't wait to see how ML is going to expand this line. Great demo, bro!
Would you mind making a grand comparison between all famous drum libraries like SSD, EZ Drummer, Addictive Drums etc.? Like how they all sounds in the mix with your riffs. Would be interesting video for sure. Isn't it a great idea?
Make this happen🤘❤
yeah please!
I'd love to hear something like that. If only because Jon's drum writing is awesome :D
Would be great indeed!
Agree
It still beats me how every one just forgets about addictive drums which has all of this and a groove engine too
Man the mix sounds fucking amazing
Your mix makes it sound good.
Seems to be great!
This is great, I've been using Kontact but I just don't gel with the interface, I think this is a good pairing with my Alesis Surge. Thanks Jon as always, keep up the great content.
It's a great VST for sure but I think it's not really an EZ Drummer competitor because the former offers advanced songwriting tools e MIDI editing features which ML Drums does not provide. SO, I think I will continue to use EZ Drummer for songwriting and switching to ML Drums when it comes to mix the complete song
Mico is the best, he knows what a good sounding drums is and guitar sounds.
ggd still best for getting natty tone. FL studio is nice to easily change velocity of hits to get away from the monotone
-- I specifically own fl studio solely for tabbing out drums
There is no way I can get this type of guitar tone! I’ve been trying for years. That bass. How the hell is it so powerful???
This sounds awesome! Im quite interessted in the tone of the guitars and bass here! Would it be possible to show us what sounds you have been using here?
They sound very crisp.
you can compare it to other drum vsts with simpler option sets. However EZ drummer 3 is a deep ecosystem. No contest at this point but it's a good start and the intro pricing is very reasonable. shortfalls so far, no hihat cc, very minimal hi-hat layers, minimal velocity layers.
Nice video mate. Quick question, is there any cowbell sound added in the plugin?
I absolutely love Mikko’s amp plug-ins, this is a game changer! These drums sound great!! Wouldn’t expect anything less from the people at ML sound lab! 🤘🏽🔥
While i feel like they have missed the mark on their last few plugins, this is looking and sounding good! I think it's more of a direct competitor to GGD, being a simple, easy to use plugin that doesn't require Kontakt and has a lot more options for basic mixing to get your going quickly.
How have they missed the mark?
@@jamescuttsmusicjcm5013 their Rectifier plugin sounded like ass, their Dumble plugin was pretty much useless…
@@apoplexiamusic not tried the rectifier plugin but the dumble plugin is awesome. used it loads.
EDIT: but fair enough. thanks for elaborating.
@@jamescuttsmusicjcm5013 i do apologize as i just don’t get the hype around Dumbles, aren’t they just clean amps? What makes them sound so special? I’m not being cynical, i genuinely want to understand. :)
@@apoplexiamusic Clean when it comes to guitar amps is never completely clean. Lol. I do like the way they dirty up though. Either way they have character, and MLSL were able to capture this in the plugin. Now... I will say that I have never used an actual Dumble amp, but I have used a clone. However, if you do not use / enjoy those kinda tones I can see why you would not be able to find it useful. To be honest with you, I do not particularly like Rectifier tones anyway. Amp model or real thing which is why I avoided it. They just... suck - in my opinion but to each their own. Haha.
I would say this gives MT POWER DRUM KIT 2 and Ugritone some serious competition.... But EZ Drummer? Not a chance. The bandmate function alone gives EZD3 a clear advantage, and thats just one function of EZ that makes it far greater. If you're using a free software, or Ugritone..... sure. But it's on the bottom rung of software that costs more than $20.
FINALLY!!!! HE MADE A DRUM SIM!!!!
I see it as good for the price but EZD 3 has so much more features at this point the only thing close tab is the Mixer & the samples are just as good. but when your using ML D
wheres the Midi come from , do you have to fly it in from other apps or do create from scratch ? and wheres the midi editor or is that dependent on the the DAW you work on .
maybe if I get a better understanding of this then I might invest on it as an option bc it is very reasonably priced to upgrade it rite now.
very cymbal to use :X
this is exciting af. yeah I think they sound digital and generic a little. not terrible but I can hear it. but this is just the beginning. they are still developing the store. I think this is a good starting point and shows a lot of promise. I'm definitely gonna check out the free version. I already have ezd2 and sd3. I also have slate trigger. so I don't necessarily need this but it could still be a strong tool to have nonetheless. as cheap as it is to get started I don't see why not purchase it.
Those sounds are incredible. On another note, are giant 90's chrome drum racks making a come back?
You need to try out counterkit
Hoi @sonicdrivestudios, Ik heb een vraag; wat denk je over de verschillende soorten merken buizen die er zijn en kan jij het kwaliteit verschil (als er al een is) horen?
Ik wordt gek van al mijn gitaarvrienden die zeggen dat er echt een verschil is, maar ik kan het niet horen.
Groetjes uit Apeldoorn 🤘
Your guitar tone sounds different here. I bet you're using ML Soundlab's IR.
I think it's the drums that make you think that tbh
@@SonicDriveStudio any chance to share what IR+amp used in this video, Jon?
Dude what tone is this? Nice
Helix native
@@SonicDriveStudio hell yeah. I need to get me the helix stomp line 6. They make good gear
@@SonicDriveStudio your gear makes me jealous.
5:25 does this multi out have a gui or is it all DAW based?
No real need for a GUI multi-out in this plugin since it's our own first-party loader. You should just be able to enable the extra outputs in your DAW. Most DAWs will even auto-label them all
Foam on guitar strings is acceptable. But electrical tape? Cmon man.
Sounded like Deftones!
How is the CPU hit?
Low on CPU, that’s what scared me, but it’s very good, similar to EZdrummer, maybe even better. And with EZdrummer your have to split all the track to make something good, so you have 3-4-5 more Vsti tracks to do to achieved something good.
So how would you compare this to Steven Slate Drums?
Oh... And is this Stereo output only? Or can you output it to multiple channels to process everything seperatly?
@@murderofline2 Multi-output routing on this one, should be super simple in most DAWs!
sorry that snare has some annoying overtones. I figured you could make it sound good but nope
For the purpose of this video I didn't want to add post processing but of course you could add some EQ. Or choose one of the other snare options
We chose to keep that natural ring in the snare - we personally love the sound of it, and those that don't like it can quite easily dial it out with an EQ!
Like others have said this doesn't even come close to touching ezdrummer. Not. At. All.
No really.There is no bits here.No grooves.Far away from EZ like every other with no grooves.
Nope🤣🤣
Competition in what? Lol 😂
i hate these "easy to use" plugins. I don't want easy to use. I already know how to mix. I'm fine "worrying about attack and release and ratio settings." I want something flexible and powerful, not a crutch.
Then use something else? I don't see what the problem is. Plenty of other products out there
@@SonicDriveStudio It’s more just a general disappointment with how I feel the industry is going. I despise old cranky boomers who talk about the good old days, but i tend to agree with them when they talk about how frustrated they are about the modern preset approach of new plugins and mixing tools
@@whatskraken3886 there's no point in complaining, it's not like it didn't take any effort to create this product. They created it for an audience who wants something that's easy to use. If that's not your thing I would recommend something like Superior Drummer
@@SonicDriveStudio I already use other drum plugins. The point of my frustration was that ML makes extremely high quality products, and they’ve gone against the preset approach in the past with things like their Mikko plugins that basically let you mic a cab with no assistance. That’s the kind of thing I want to see. Take IK Multimedia’s Modo Drums. It’s a super in-depth granular plugin with full control over everything, including multiple different kinds of compressors, full variable control over drum tuning, shell type, dimensions, head type, etc. You get to exercise your full mixing abilities because there are no one knob compressors or anything like that. It’s all just properly designed tools laid out, and you handle the rest. _that’s_ the kind of product I was hoping this was.
Obviously you’re not in control of the products ML makes, but I figured I’d offer this explanation anyway.
@@whatskraken3886 choose "zero" preset that is without any processing and create multi routing. Then you can process each individual piece like the old days dudes :)
EZ Drummer sounds about a bajillion times better than this. If anyone is looking for excellent drum software, go there first.
I got pain in the as s tweaking it
Not impressed at all. Kick sounds thin, snare sounds like crap. No punch to it at all. Heard alot of cymbals that were harsh. Ez drummer has nothing to worry about. My opinion
Versus EZdrummer2, ML is better, the post processing is easier cause the sound is more good right at the source for a mix context.
@@charlesduquette8724
I don't have a clue to what you were listening to. I am not going to go back in forth with you about this.
@@marcaddona2771 I'm just saying don't rely solely on the sound of a video to form an opinion. Maybe you tried it and you don't like it and it's ok. For me ML Drum is good and for another it’s shitty and i’m ok with that, there is something for everyone.
Meh.
Ml sound lab is one of the shitty companies which only raise the dust and nothing more! I own a bunch of their products, it is total crap. 🤣🤣🤣
Maybe I'm wrong, but I judge based on my experience.