This is so true,,, You cant convert a great idea into a great product, without a team that understands the concept, belives in the vision, and works relentlessly towards the final product.
I suppose that depends on what aspects of design one considers to be important. To some of us, the technical and operative aspects--the "nuts and bolts"--are more important to an electronic device's design than the aesthetic/style aspects are. In that light, to the degree that Apple products have been forward-looking, I'd consider Apple's engineers to be the sages, and Jobs to have been the marketing genius who sold them.
@@Hellaalalalalaala --You have misunderstood what I wrote. Please read it again. _”People like to underestimate the people at the top because they dont understand it/them, and they have feelings included in their judgement (often because they feel they get more credit/money/resources than they should).”_ Yes, I suppose some people are like that. What does that have to do with me, or with what I wrote? _”If jobs position/work was so easy…”_ Who said it was easy? _”…it would have been replicated over and over again (which rarely happens--which is mainly why apple wanted him back).”_ Jobs was very good at what he did, and that’s exactly the point I made. I even called him a “genius,” so it’s not clear what, of anything I wrote, that you actually disagree with.
That's the huge misconception about Steve Jobs when you first don't know anything about him. At first, I thought he was a genius full of ideas and concepts plus he had the know-how to do something. As I get older, I don't believe it was any of these things he was strong at. It was something else. I believe he was strong at getting the right people together, he was strong at making mistakes and learning from them, and he was strong at working hard with practice. That's what made him an efficient leader. Not the title, but his actions.
@@em-jl3sbmusk does not talk about the awesomeness of his teams. He does not give credit to others. He considers himself a genius, promises the world, under delivers, and then blames the universe (his team, policies, etc) for falling short. Steve Jobs didn’t talk about his brilliance at all here. The only credit he gave himself is that he “is a symbol”.
@@theouthousepoet Musk overemphasizes the A-type of talent just like Steve. Talent that is responsible for 80% of success. Both have the same view on b and C type of talent. Who are B and C ? in a easy definition : b and C talent are people that bond on any grounds OTHER than development of skills , ideas and technology that drives product success.
Bees cannot produce honey when hornets get into the hive. They go to war instead. John Sculley could not make honey once he got into Apple. The bees left.
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The problem is that the First Macintosh (1984) computer failed... so yes Steve is right... just because you have a good idea doesn't always mean a good and quality product.
So the rocks through disagreement (friction) polished each other into beautiful things, but when he hired for Apple, he preferred to start with polished rocks.
Big deal. Computer technology replaced encyclopedias and phone books. Whatever else they've done has been done in the service of a master. Take a look around. Please explain the inherent advantage that these technologies have given us. Other than me posting this disapproval.
AI and computer-driven automation is saving lives in medical professions. That's one example. Other than that it is a mixed bag. A lot of it is just about doing things more efficiently, but unfortunately the gains made go back into wasting resources in other ways. Another example Is that sustainable energy for sure need a lot of computer advances. This is the only way forward for us as a species. Resources will run out otherwise... eventually. During covid, I was able to teach better because of technological advances and some of those techniques I could use even after the normal process of teaching resumed. Computer animations and other programs can help explain concepts much more easily and sometimes they dont need a teacher at all because of this. Big negatives of the technological advances are online tribalism, misinformation and other social aspects. I really dislike that about the current age we live in. It is what it is.
@@smitty347 I think that's precisely my point. The over-application of technologies in areas where they are not an inherent advantage. I also work in education and have witnessed a very mixed bag in the success of technology in elementary and middle school classrooms. Technology will not teach a child the value of poetry. More times than not, it is a distraction and hindrance to learning. I had the opportunity to sit in on a sixth grade social studies class where the teacher taught in, what is now, an old style of teaching. The kids had to take handwritten notes and follow a hardcover text on Roman history. I can't tell you how much more engaged and active they were in class. It was stark. Medical science may certainly be an area where these technologies are valuable. I have personal experience with that. Yet, applying AI and digital technologies in every area is nothing more than "scientism." We are losing, in a very real sense, our own humanity to these digital creatures. There is a dialogue in the movie, "My Dinner With Andre", that reads, "This is the beginning of the rest of the future, now, and that from now on there will simply be all these robots walking around, feeling nothing, thinking nothing. And there will be nobody left to remind them that there once was a species called a human being." I fear that road is upon us.
the Javelin, an anti tank weapon uses image recognition software to keep track of its target tank as it keeps moving towards its target. It does so by continuously taking pictures of its target and updating the shape/image ofwhat it believes the target to be. Modern autonomous air defence system work are also a great example to look into, although I don't know how they work. Personally, I myself cannot thank youtube enough for all the tutorials it provided on my subjects when the book was too thick for me to understand. Now, with all that in mind, its quite funny, that in labor hours saved, the washing machine on its own has likely had a greater impact on humanity than the invention of the computer.
@@freddy4603 So, an anti-tank weapon uses image recognition software to keep track of it's target... that is the advantage you were able to come up with. Technology has made violence more efficient. Well, that ought to improve the world immeasurably. Hilarious!!
@@paulwheeler6609alright, if military applications aren't your thing, thats fine by me. 1) the Weather report is reliable only thanks to massive computers running trillions of calculations to simulate the future weather patterns; 2) The engineering and chemical industries benefit greatly thanks to computer simulations of their projects, allowing them to save resources on development and spotting opportunities/mistakes before any material is wasted; 3) The previous comment and all its contents, which you, for some reason, didn't reply to 4) The automation of the accounting industry. Did you know "calculator" was originally a name of a profession? The people working in these professions would literally do basic arithmetic as their day job. 5) The free distribution of information - allowing for the spreading of skills. Billions of people today have the opportunity to learn new skills like cooking, woodworking, (in the case of my father - building a house), and literally any skill you can think of. FOR. FREE. Honestly I didn't even google these answers, thats just from the top of my head. Btw, what do you think about technological progress in general? Like before the computer? Do you value the innovation in the medical industry, like the invention of vaccines and cures? Or do you just specifically don't like computers and military progress?
This is applicable to almost any business. Truly well said.
People who were in Steve Job's team must have got a lot to learn from him. I wish I was there too.
This is so true,,, You cant convert a great idea into a great product, without a team that understands the concept, belives in the vision, and works relentlessly towards the final product.
100% Correct I know him and talked with him a few times indeed he understood human nature ..
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I suppose that depends on what aspects of design one considers to be important. To some of us, the technical and operative aspects--the "nuts and bolts"--are more important to an electronic device's design than the aesthetic/style aspects are. In that light, to the degree that Apple products have been forward-looking, I'd consider Apple's engineers to be the sages, and Jobs to have been the marketing genius who sold them.
@@cardinalRG so true.These engineers were lead by Jobs.
@@Hellaalalalalaala --You have misunderstood what I wrote. Please read it again.
_”People like to underestimate the people at the top because they dont understand it/them, and they have feelings included in their judgement (often because they feel they get more credit/money/resources than they should).”_
Yes, I suppose some people are like that. What does that have to do with me, or with what I wrote?
_”If jobs position/work was so easy…”_
Who said it was easy?
_”…it would have been replicated over and over again (which rarely happens--which is mainly why apple wanted him back).”_
Jobs was very good at what he did, and that’s exactly the point I made. I even called him a “genius,” so it’s not clear what, of anything I wrote, that you actually disagree with.
That's the huge misconception about Steve Jobs when you first don't know anything about him. At first, I thought he was a genius full of ideas and concepts plus he had the know-how to do something. As I get older, I don't believe it was any of these things he was strong at. It was something else. I believe he was strong at getting the right people together, he was strong at making mistakes and learning from them, and he was strong at working hard with practice. That's what made him an efficient leader. Not the title, but his actions.
what a stunning contrast to musk
why do you say that? did musk have a very different opinion? i'm just curious lol
@@em-jl3sbmusk does not talk about the awesomeness of his teams. He does not give credit to others.
He considers himself a genius, promises the world, under delivers, and then blames the universe (his team, policies, etc) for falling short.
Steve Jobs didn’t talk about his brilliance at all here. The only credit he gave himself is that he “is a symbol”.
@@theouthousepoet yea, i never realized that elon doesn't ever talk about his teams lol.( thank u for responding btw)
@@theouthousepoet Musk overemphasizes the A-type of talent just like Steve. Talent that is responsible for 80% of success. Both have the same view on b and C type of talent. Who are B and C ? in a easy definition : b and C talent are people that bond on any grounds OTHER than development of skills , ideas and technology that drives product success.
Luckily.
Had Elizabeth Holmes listened to her idol say this, she likely would have ignored it.
Bees cannot produce honey when hornets get into the hive. They go to war instead. John Sculley could not make honey once he got into Apple. The bees left.
Steven Paul Jobs (San Francisco, 24 de febrero de 1955-Palo Alto, 05 de octubre de 2011) fue un empresario, diseñador industrial, magnate empresarial, propietario de medios e inversor estadounidense. Fue cofundador y presidente ejecutivo de Apple y máximo accionista individual de The Walt Disney Company.
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The problem is that the First Macintosh (1984) computer failed... so yes Steve is right... just because you have a good idea doesn't always mean a good and quality product.
Cheap shot, ignorant too. If money or units sold is the only metric for "success", I suppose you classify Van Gogh as a "failure" too.
So the rocks through disagreement (friction) polished each other into beautiful things, but when he hired for Apple, he preferred to start with polished rocks.
No, the people were the motor. The rocks were the product. He did not go through the process of making better than they were. He hired the best.
Steve Jobs, personally, didn’t make great products. Steve Jobs created a great culture for a company, which in turn, created great products.
Big deal. Computer technology replaced encyclopedias and phone books. Whatever else they've done has been done in the service of a master. Take a look around. Please explain the inherent advantage that these technologies have given us. Other than me posting this disapproval.
AI and computer-driven automation is saving lives in medical professions. That's one example. Other than that it is a mixed bag. A lot of it is just about doing things more efficiently, but unfortunately the gains made go back into wasting resources in other ways. Another example Is that sustainable energy for sure need a lot of computer advances. This is the only way forward for us as a species. Resources will run out otherwise... eventually.
During covid, I was able to teach better because of technological advances and some of those techniques I could use even after the normal process of teaching resumed. Computer animations and other programs can help explain concepts much more easily and sometimes they dont need a teacher at all because of this.
Big negatives of the technological advances are online tribalism, misinformation and other social aspects. I really dislike that about the current age we live in. It is what it is.
@@smitty347 I think that's precisely my point. The over-application of technologies in areas where they are not an inherent advantage. I also work in education and have witnessed a very mixed bag in the success of technology in elementary and middle school classrooms. Technology will not teach a child the value of poetry. More times than not, it is a distraction and hindrance to learning. I had the opportunity to sit in on a sixth grade social studies class where the teacher taught in, what is now, an old style of teaching. The kids had to take handwritten notes and follow a hardcover text on Roman history. I can't tell you how much more engaged and active they were in class. It was stark. Medical science may certainly be an area where these technologies are valuable. I have personal experience with that. Yet, applying AI and digital technologies in every area is nothing more than "scientism." We are losing, in a very real sense, our own humanity to these digital creatures. There is a dialogue in the movie, "My Dinner With Andre", that reads, "This is the beginning of the rest of the future, now, and that from now on there will simply be all these robots walking around, feeling nothing, thinking nothing. And there will be nobody left to remind them that there once was a species called a human being." I fear that road is upon us.
the Javelin, an anti tank weapon uses image recognition software to keep track of its target tank as it keeps moving towards its target. It does so by continuously taking pictures of its target and updating the shape/image ofwhat it believes the target to be.
Modern autonomous air defence system work are also a great example to look into, although I don't know how they work.
Personally, I myself cannot thank youtube enough for all the tutorials it provided on my subjects when the book was too thick for me to understand.
Now, with all that in mind, its quite funny, that in labor hours saved, the washing machine on its own has likely had a greater impact on humanity than the invention of the computer.
@@freddy4603 So, an anti-tank weapon uses image recognition software to keep track of it's target... that is the advantage you were able to come up with. Technology has made violence more efficient. Well, that ought to improve the world immeasurably. Hilarious!!
@@paulwheeler6609alright, if military applications aren't your thing, thats fine by me.
1) the Weather report is reliable only thanks to massive computers running trillions of calculations to simulate the future weather patterns;
2) The engineering and chemical industries benefit greatly thanks to computer simulations of their projects, allowing them to save resources on development and spotting opportunities/mistakes before any material is wasted;
3) The previous comment and all its contents, which you, for some reason, didn't reply to
4) The automation of the accounting industry. Did you know "calculator" was originally a name of a profession? The people working in these professions would literally do basic arithmetic as their day job.
5) The free distribution of information - allowing for the spreading of skills. Billions of people today have the opportunity to learn new skills like cooking, woodworking, (in the case of my father - building a house), and literally any skill you can think of. FOR. FREE.
Honestly I didn't even google these answers, thats just from the top of my head.
Btw, what do you think about technological progress in general? Like before the computer? Do you value the innovation in the medical industry, like the invention of vaccines and cures? Or do you just specifically don't like computers and military progress?
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