Congratulations for verifying what I've been saying since "cold air intakes" hit the market.....they suck in hot engine compartment air, which is less dense, and contains less oxygen as a result, making less power. The factory air duct system actually brings in cooler air from in front of the radiator (typically) and REMOVING that fresh air system for something that draws in air from the hot engine compartment is ridiculous, from a power making standpoint. The 1 mpg increase seems real and is interesting though. So glad you were able to recover from your injuries. Please stay away from motorcycles. The old timers saying is "There's 2 kinds of motorcycle riders; those who have laid a bike down, and those who are going to lay a bike down." Stay safe.
Your running a open box so of course it is pulling engine heat in. To see a difference you need a closed system pulling air from somewhere besides the engine bay
The cowl (where your AC gets outside air) is a great place as it's cool, safe from rain or snow and gives you a bunch of extra room in the engine bar by removing the giant factory airbox
the box isnt open once the hood is closed. the rubber strip you put around the housing becomes a seal when the hood is closed so that open compartment is now cold air completely seperate from engine bay heat
Currently have an open box system, not much of an mpg difference but you hear the engine noise a bit more. Ordered a closed box kit and will be installing that, we'll see what happens
I recently installed an S&B CAI on my car for just over $300. It definitely breaths easier than stock, and works better than I was anticipating. It won't give you a huge increase in horsepower on its own, but it's still noticeable. And the exhaust is noticeably louder when accelerating over 3k rpms. I'd recommend it, as it's a fun and easy performance mod.
Let's see...K&N Cold air intake from Amazon $274.00. MPG savings 1 mile/gallon...so 25 miles on my full tank, which gets 15m/gallon at we'll say 3.00/gal...So fuel costs me .20/mile, so I save 120/yr..so the K&N pays for itself in roughly 2.5 yrs...hrm. My maths probably way off, but I have a feeling I could save just as much money by getting my gas at Costco.
But yet the gas at casco is no good tbh i filled up their and notcied that i had to refill my tank again the next day as the gad burns way quicker for some reason.. i put gas at chevron or fastrip most of the time and 91.. but casco gas is no good tbh... it dont last at all..
@@peterfix7411 You are correct. The ethenol in their gas burns faster. I believe they use something like 10-15%. Also cold air intake boosts throttle response and adds about 15-20hp.
Also using cheaper gas means it is usually lower octane.. Even though it is represented as a certain octane, it's cheaper because it's cut with less octance rich fuel. So you'd be putting shitty fuel in your engine.
I have a 2001 Chevy Suburban, 5.3L. Before installing the CAI, I was only getting 12 or 13 mpg. After installing I got 19.7mpg. Yes, I thought it was wrong! So, I filled the tank again, got 18.5. I am now a believer in the CAI.
Just watched this because I am researching cold air intake for my Honda Pilot and your video was very informative. Even though you didn't put this video with visuals quite like you wanted to, it was very well done and very helpful. Thank you for putting this together and sharing this content.
My Silverado(they all do)have a cold air intake from the factory. I replaced that square box in front of the throttle body with a round pipe from Air Aid. Might have made it a little quicker off the line, hard to tell. Does open up some space under there. Had an F150 that I put a K&N kit that drew from under the hood...super noisy, not good noise either.
AFE Momentum GT cold air intake!! Definitely worth it! More Power - More Torque ... no tuning necessary, and it's a Closed Box design VS your open shield that kinda deflects engine heat. You're gonna get what you pay for.
Lol I have the same K&N in my 05 silverado. I'm trying to switch it out with a closed one. Run into S&B but they don't ship it to communist state of California yet. Now thinking of volant.
I have the aFe intake in my 5.3! I noticed a difference in throttle response and maybe slight better acceleration according to my butt dyno. Shortly after that and the full exhaust, I purchased a Diablosport Trinity and had DiabLew make me a custom tune. It ran so much better once the custom tune was installed! These are more like ram intakes compared to a real CAI. The one I had on my car dropped down in front of the front driver tire. It would collect all of the cold air flowing beneath the car! I didn't drive in any wet conditions for fear that it would suck up water!
I just received my VOLANT closed cold air intake and am waiting fir my DiabloSport Tuner to be delivered, and THEN I’ll install both and clean the MAF and throttle bottle while I’m down there. I have an ‘02 2500HD 8.1L Vortec
Thanks, I was wondering how a CAI got cold air, and you explained it doesn't. My 6.2 got 24.8mpg without CAI, and frankly the sound of the CAI makes me keep my foot in it. I just love that sound. So it's not paying for itself. Probably should have just added the factory K&N factory replacement filter.
@@-Hood- I'm in western PA, and when I first saw the mileage my 6.2 was returning I was pleasantly surprised. So I added a cold air box, waste of money. It return better acceleration, especially when I need to make a quick pass. To answer your question, I returned 24.9 with the cruise on 73 mph, light traffic on rolling hill interstate. That was all completely untouched stock.
@@alexanderspenser4960 That's one trip, that's not representative of your avg gas mileage overall, also did you calculate the gas mileage yourself or go by what it says on the dash? The reading on the dash is misleading
@@-Hood-Since I drive it I know what I get and anyone who is familiar with GMs computers will tell you it's accuracy is usually within a tenth of a %. As long as I don't wanna hear the exhaust note, me puting my foot into it, I average 18.5 city/hwy. Recent trip on PA TPK=24 mpg, do it all the time. Just stop trying to race the fool whising past you staying consistent works. I'm still running factory tires; when I replace them I'll even get better mileage. Been learning this a long time, timing the traffic, lights, anything to remain smooth & steady, believe what you will, I don't give a duck fart. Baxter out!
I had one on my 2015 Dodge Charger RT and it made the car get SUPER HOT at drive thrust....Then as I drove, it was always about 13 degrees hotter than ambient temperature. It sounded way better and I just was ok with the heat it sucked from the engine bay. Sold it and stock back on. I feel the heat will mess up something with time.
I did this same thing with stock box, k&n rectangular filter and airaid pipe for the intake. Created some torque and quick throttle response but had too much drone at high RPM. So now I have black hawk CAI by K&N and closed box. Smooth now and same great torque/acceleration.
“Babe it’s saving us $$$!” Haha 😂😂😂. Love the continuation of the content, John. CAI and exhaust are the next two things I’m looking to do with my Silverado.
Your comment re the intake manifold temperature is what I had suspected of a number of these so called CAI systems. I had considered the K&N for my RAM but he’d been skeptical … for good reason it turns out. It’s annoying that even fairly reputable companies like K&N engage in blatant misrepresentation marketing their products. AFE and S&B have offerings that seem to be actual cold air intakes. I’ll look into that.
I hear you have to get a tune to really get the full affect of a cold air intake. Other wise it's just for sound. But everyone says something different so idk.
I did the K&N blackhawk + magnaflow cat back.. other then sounding 100x better, no difference really in power or mpg.. i honestly think just adding a flat panel k&n to the stock setup would've been better and i could've bought a tuner instead
i put a AFE cold air intake on my 392 after 35k of stock driving and i feel the torque come on a little bit quicker especially in cold air if i lived in warm climate i would get closed box or keep stock tbh
I had a short ram for around a year. I had to go back to OEM because of squirrel issues. 2 months now and ive found worse mileage with oem. I always hear the opposite. To note, new plugs and have tried various fuels 87-93 as well as ethanol free 91. No improvements. Thanks and algos
I have heard from mechanics that cold air intakes do not work. If you think about it if you're driving your vehicle in the summertime there's no cold air from the outside to make any difference. If you ever notice when you're driving around in the winter time when the air cold your vehicle always tends to run better because it actually has cold air going into the engine!
Well i agree cold air intakes take in hot engine air except mine... i bought a new hood that had the air duct and the air duct actually channles the air from outside into the cold air intake filter.
Hey, at least you can still walk, unlike a customer her son was hit head on by a drunk it will be sometime before he can walk or ride his bike. I was few weeks ago heading home a lead car on 2 lane highway at 55 mph suddenly swerved rids in front of my Silverado I had enough time to say a swear word and jerk the steering wheel onto the shoulder. Their mirror was extremely close to me.
Get Pedal Commander!!! It doesn't change anything inthe ECU or the pattern, but it DOES make the throttle respond much faster and react the way you want the truck to!!!!
Try putting it on a dyno first with stock intake then the cold intake. you should get between 8 and 12 kilowatts more at the wheels with the cold intake.
*ALL* cold air intakes have been proven to not increase performance. In the benchmarks the only thing that worked was putting the filter outside the car entirely. Or having an active ram intake on the hood (scoop to air-in box).
I put a sealed box on my 2010 4x4 suburban mine around town I dont check anything,but on a California to Pennsylvania trip I put 6k miles round tripI gained 4 mpg after puting it .I went from 18.9 mpg to 24.o mpg that was at highway speed of 70 to 80 mph and the average for the entire trip
John is it about a 10HP gain? Do you think the K&N is better than other expensive and cheap versions? How often do you clean and oil it, twice a year? Have you ever used a coolant additive that cools your engine temp like watter wetter?, do they work?
Some of the K&N CAI have a rubber stripping you install so that the hood closes the box in, same concept I guess. Mine won't be here for 3 more days so I can test it out.
I put 63-3082 on 2015 silverado high country 6.2l 1500 and when i turn on truck, after 3 or 5 seconds truck would turn off as if it did not get any air in
By definition alone it's not a "cold air" intake. The stock system actually pulls air from the "outside" through the fender. The K&N full systems as well as others like it just pull hot air from inside the engine bay. The only advantage they have is the additional amount of air they can pull from the surface area of the cone filter and possibly the routing of the air to the intake to reduce flutter or turbulence. In my opinion, these systems are only efficient or effective with the addition of upgraded turbos and full exhaust systems. As a stand alone they are a poor placement of your hard earned money and offer little performance improvement. That said, they do look cool.
The inconsistent temps are cause its in open air filter to the motor. Thats why k&N dont really work amd I prefer s&b theres a hude difference in temps amd performance
2019 suburban. Have a k&n with a magnaflow cat back system. Truck sounds great. Butttttttt. Fuel mileage really sucks now. You folks say tuning will help?
Drilling standard airbox is best solution off course on the dirty side but no tu much mybe 15 holus withh 10 mm diametar on side airbox where cold air coming...greetings from Split Croatia
It's not really a CAI: the engine bay is not properly sealed. For that reason the inlet temperature is higher than with the standard intake, that was sealed to the side of the carbody
I just bought Rough Country CAI and installed it on 2010 Silverado… only thing I can tell difference is in sound and take off… I wouldn’t suggest doing it…
I just installed my Rough Country CAI, yesterday. Missing a key attachment point for a sensor. I jury rigged it by cutting out that connection from the stock system.. Grinding the diameter down to fit, and 2 part epoxy took care of it. I hate when Mail order QC takes a fat dump on the parts I order.
TY so much for your research content. But what did you mean you lost some MPG's following the EXHAUST mod? I thought the freer flowing exhausts were helping. Was this due to more restrictions in the pipes / muffler / resonators AFTER the Cat Converter?
Is there some kind of duct brining in fresh air from outside? Because if not, it’s just sucking the hot air from the engine bay. Technically that’s not a cold air intake, it’s a short ram air intake.
I am thinking of installing a short ram in my acura TL purely for throttle response. The Dbw sucks. It is also easier to clean and replace the ram filter. I drive 90 percent highway so my intake temperature may be more stable.
I see you added a open top cold air intake. Some manufacturers have cold air intakes that have the top closed with a panel. That may stop a lot of the hot engine air that the open top doesn't.
But I already own it so it is what it is I'm getting cat-back dual exhaust and I already ordered the s&b cold air intake but I'm wondering what exhaust should I get on my old truck I would get the loudest possible one well not the loudest one but I would get the 40 series of two chambered flow masrer now I have kids in the truck nowhere and I want to be able to get stickers so what should I go with aborla
Honestly I mean they're going to get a 2500 or I'm just going to get a tundra next time because literally it's a LS block 350 and they run forever and they don't have a lot of issues
I think if I tuned the truck properly to take in consideration cooler and more direct air, and more airflow out the exhaust it would correct the issue and yield better fuel mileage. Same thing with HP gains. From my understanding you definitely gain some with bolting it on, however a tune will gain you the best increases! Adjusting the CPU for the cooler and easier air flows. Hope that makes sense!
Sorry I shouldn't have to tune my truck or do things to the cam and lifters to make it feel like a truck It should just come like that God damn it luckily 2022 AFM is optional
l Pronox shoot @lmfscrew a message on Instagram.. he has the Airaid Jr kit you’re thinking about getting and has a few videos on it on his RUclips channel as well.
Typically you do a bit.. just because you’re letting your truck exhale a lot faster and with more volume. My set up after exhaust I lost only about 1mpg average so nothing too bad. Truck ran a lot better but sacrificed a little fuel.
@@JohnWargo93 So you just lost the minimal MPG increase you got with $$$$ hot (not really cold was it ?)overall intake system, That makes enough sense.... you came about even except you gained some real "cool" noise. For how much money invested ??
Get smart, fab an aluminum filter box get a cai for it and have external tubes from aluminum box pulling fresh air from somewhere other than the engine bay, results steady colder air better mpg. Depending on certain motors, throttle body spacers can even help with a little mpg and throttle response. I have a 1998 2500 dually with the 350 vortec 4l80e combo , 3:73 gears on 35s and it gets 17-18 mpg on average
John, no you haven't covered everything. You didn't cover the fact that you need to adjust your settings of your ECU (Engine Control Unit) a mini computer. As all modern vehicles have them, they do as it suggests, manages your engine. As the cars are tuned with all the stock fittings. If you put after-market gear on your car and not adjust/tune your cars ECU to accommodate the changes, then of course your car will not operate as expected. Temps will still be high as your putting a performance enhancing part into a stock environment, although you did cover temps as such, but don't you think you need some form of 'outside-the-engine bay' air? Then you'll get the 'cold-air' for your intake. Otherwise, an informative video.
Nope, I hate cold air intake systems. My Hinda had one and it ran like complete crap. My gas mileage suffered and it didn't run right at all. I put back in my OE air intake system and my car runs, sounds and feels better. My gas mileage went back up. That stupid cold air intake filter kept falling off on mine and it drove me insane. I took it off and just stepped on it uninstalled the stuff and threw it away.
Congratulations for verifying what I've been saying since "cold air intakes" hit the market.....they suck in hot engine compartment air, which is less dense, and contains less oxygen as a result, making less power. The factory air duct system actually brings in cooler air from in front of the radiator (typically) and REMOVING that fresh air system for something that draws in air from the hot engine compartment is ridiculous, from a power making standpoint. The 1 mpg increase seems real and is interesting though. So glad you were able to recover from your injuries. Please stay away from motorcycles. The old timers saying is "There's 2 kinds of motorcycle riders; those who have laid a bike down, and those who are going to lay a bike down." Stay safe.
Only SR suck in hot air. I know 100% my Injen CAI is not sucking in hot air
Your running a open box so of course it is pulling engine heat in. To see a difference you need a closed system pulling air from somewhere besides the engine bay
I was going yo say the same but what David is saying is total sense.
The cowl (where your AC gets outside air) is a great place as it's cool, safe from rain or snow and gives you a bunch of extra room in the engine bar by removing the giant factory airbox
That’s not the authors fault, it’s more K&N’s fault for false advertising of a “cold air” intake.. when it really isn’t.
the box isnt open once the hood is closed. the rubber strip you put around the housing becomes a seal when the hood is closed so that open compartment is now cold air completely seperate from engine bay heat
Currently have an open box system, not much of an mpg difference but you hear the engine noise a bit more. Ordered a closed box kit and will be installing that, we'll see what happens
Glad you recovered from that motorcycle injury...God Bless
I recently installed an S&B CAI on my car for just over $300. It definitely breaths easier than stock, and works better than I was anticipating. It won't give you a huge increase in horsepower on its own, but it's still noticeable. And the exhaust is noticeably louder when accelerating over 3k rpms. I'd recommend it, as it's a fun and easy performance mod.
My CAI was designed to go down in my fender well. It made a big difference since it wasn't on top.
Just installed the rough country cold air intake on my gmc sierra which cost me only 150 and boy am I happy I did
Do you still like it?
All I got was a engine light that stays on now. Pretty cool!!
You are really good at taking what could have been a 30 second video and making it 10 minutes.
Hell yeah 🤘🏼🤘🏼
@@JohnWargo93 hell naw
Just recently installed a S&B cold air intake, I honestly like it better gas mileage and sound !
BS on mileage
Let's see...K&N Cold air intake from Amazon $274.00. MPG savings 1 mile/gallon...so 25 miles on my full tank, which gets 15m/gallon at we'll say 3.00/gal...So fuel costs me .20/mile, so I save 120/yr..so the K&N pays for itself in roughly 2.5 yrs...hrm. My maths probably way off, but I have a feeling I could save just as much money by getting my gas at Costco.
But yet the gas at casco is no good tbh i filled up their and notcied that i had to refill my tank again the next day as the gad burns way quicker for some reason.. i put gas at chevron or fastrip most of the time and 91.. but casco gas is no good tbh... it dont last at all..
@@peterfix7411 You are correct. The ethenol in their gas burns faster. I believe they use something like 10-15%. Also cold air intake boosts throttle response and adds about 15-20hp.
That's totally worth it. I think you've thoroughly disproven yiurself here.
Also using cheaper gas means it is usually lower octane.. Even though it is represented as a certain octane, it's cheaper because it's cut with less octance rich fuel. So you'd be putting shitty fuel in your engine.
Silent Hill, it’s not about money. There’s plenty of cold air intakes that cost 50 bucks. Most people add cold air intakes for the sound improvement.
I have a 2001 Chevy Suburban, 5.3L. Before installing the CAI, I was only getting 12 or 13 mpg. After installing I got 19.7mpg. Yes, I thought it was wrong! So, I filled the tank again, got 18.5.
I am now a believer in the CAI.
in my vehicles i have been using the drop in k&n filter in the stock intake.
Just watched this because I am researching cold air intake for my Honda Pilot and your video was very informative. Even though you didn't put this video with visuals quite like you wanted to, it was very well done and very helpful. Thank you for putting this together and sharing this content.
Thank you for the support and kind words, sir!!
I just have it for looks and the sound of the intake 😁
Eduardo Gonzalez ain’t nothing wrong with that brotha 🤟🏼🤟🏼
My Silverado(they all do)have a cold air intake from the factory. I replaced that square box in front of the throttle body with a round pipe from Air Aid. Might have made it a little quicker off the line, hard to tell. Does open up some space under there.
Had an F150 that I put a K&N kit that drew from under the hood...super noisy, not good noise either.
AFE Momentum GT cold air intake!! Definitely worth it! More Power - More Torque ... no tuning necessary, and it's a Closed Box design VS your open shield that kinda deflects engine heat.
You're gonna get what you pay for.
You need to change it out for an S&B Cold intake it’s sealed unit and it utilizes exterior engine bay area it will cool it down quite a bit
Facts
Lol I have the same K&N in my 05 silverado. I'm trying to switch it out with a closed one. Run into S&B but they don't ship it to communist state of California yet. Now thinking of volant.
@Van-du8uz or you could move to a better state. Lol jk stay safe
@@thomplatt8945 wish I could.
I would but the only manufacturer that made an intake for my car (that I could find) was K&N.
I put a high flow intake on my son's mazda 3 and I swear it lowered the gas mileage.
I have the aFe intake in my 5.3! I noticed a difference in throttle response and maybe slight better acceleration according to my butt dyno. Shortly after that and the full exhaust, I purchased a Diablosport Trinity and had DiabLew make me a custom tune. It ran so much better once the custom tune was installed! These are more like ram intakes compared to a real CAI. The one I had on my car dropped down in front of the front driver tire. It would collect all of the cold air flowing beneath the car! I didn't drive in any wet conditions for fear that it would suck up water!
I just received my VOLANT closed cold air intake and am waiting fir my DiabloSport Tuner to be delivered, and THEN I’ll install both and clean the MAF and throttle bottle while I’m down there. I have an ‘02 2500HD 8.1L Vortec
Sure tell ur self that just to make ur self feel better!
It's more about flow restriction and sound than temperature with these filters.
The only way to bring colder air in when at a light you would have to make a hole to bring more air in to that area
Thanks, I was wondering how a CAI got cold air, and you explained it doesn't. My 6.2 got 24.8mpg without CAI, and frankly the sound of the CAI makes me keep my foot in it. I just love that sound. So it's not paying for itself. Probably should have just added the factory K&N factory replacement filter.
How are you getting 24.8 mpg with the 6.2 engine? That doesn't sound right
@@-Hood- I'm in western PA, and when I first saw the mileage my 6.2 was returning I was pleasantly surprised. So I added a cold air box, waste of money. It return better acceleration, especially when I need to make a quick pass. To answer your question, I returned 24.9 with the cruise on 73 mph, light traffic on rolling hill interstate. That was all completely untouched stock.
@@alexanderspenser4960 That's one trip, that's not representative of your avg gas mileage overall, also did you calculate the gas mileage yourself or go by what it says on the dash? The reading on the dash is misleading
@@-Hood-Since I drive it I know what I get and anyone who is familiar with GMs computers will tell you it's accuracy is usually within a tenth of a %. As long as I don't wanna hear the exhaust note, me puting my foot into it, I average 18.5 city/hwy. Recent trip on PA TPK=24 mpg, do it all the time. Just stop trying to race the fool whising past you staying consistent works. I'm still running factory tires; when I replace them I'll even get better mileage. Been learning this a long time, timing the traffic, lights, anything to remain smooth & steady, believe what you will, I don't give a duck fart. Baxter out!
@@-Hood-Cause he's NOT... THATS SOME BULL He's feeding everyone... He'll be lucky if he's getting 19 mpg cruising @ 60 mph on a 2/3 mile trip
Thats exactly why I got the Jr kit. Shits perfect.
I had one on my 2015 Dodge Charger RT and it made the car get SUPER HOT at drive thrust....Then as I drove, it was always about 13 degrees hotter than ambient temperature. It sounded way better and I just was ok with the heat it sucked from the engine bay. Sold it and stock back on. I feel the heat will mess up something with time.
Run the stock box with the aftermarket intake pipe.
Can't do that. The conical filter will not fit in the stock box.
@@virgilgray stock filter too obviously.
I did this same thing with stock box, k&n rectangular filter and airaid pipe for the intake. Created some torque and quick throttle response but had too much drone at high RPM. So now I have black hawk CAI by K&N and closed box. Smooth now and same great torque/acceleration.
“Babe it’s saving us $$$!” Haha 😂😂😂. Love the continuation of the content, John. CAI and exhaust are the next two things I’m looking to do with my Silverado.
Your comment re the intake manifold temperature is what I had suspected of a number of these so called CAI systems. I had considered the K&N for my RAM but he’d been skeptical … for good reason it turns out. It’s annoying that even fairly reputable companies like K&N engage in blatant misrepresentation marketing their products.
AFE and S&B have offerings that seem to be actual cold air intakes. I’ll look into that.
I think cold air intakes are the equivalent of flipping your air cleaner cover over, like back in the day . Sounds cool 😂
Yes you're right and most CAi look like this. Few of them are sealed. I always wondered if these systems were just sucking in warm engine air
What if you have a custom hood with a scoop that sucks air directly onto the cold air intake that's got to be better then a closed off hood
I hear you have to get a tune to really get the full affect of a cold air intake. Other wise it's just for sound. But everyone says something different so idk.
Armando Smith yeahhh.. I believe you do need to get a tune to get the full effect. Does feel a little better throttle response tho
I think so.....did mine without a tune and muffler deletes and my mpg and power went down.
I did the K&N blackhawk + magnaflow cat back.. other then sounding 100x better, no difference really in power or mpg.. i honestly think just adding a flat panel k&n to the stock setup would've been better and i could've bought a tuner instead
Yes they do. I have 2016 and my best mileage was 27 mpg.. Average is 19-23
What are you running, 5.3 or 6.2 & any other modifications, factory tires? Thanks
i put a AFE cold air intake on my 392 after 35k of stock driving and i feel the torque come on a little bit quicker especially in cold air if i lived in warm climate i would get closed box or keep stock tbh
I had a short ram for around a year. I had to go back to OEM because of squirrel issues. 2 months now and ive found worse mileage with oem. I always hear the opposite. To note, new plugs and have tried various fuels 87-93 as well as ethanol free 91. No improvements.
Thanks and algos
I’ll try rough country and give my results,.....jkn i actually dont mind rough country but i think i’ll go with K & N
I have heard from mechanics that cold air intakes do not work. If you think about it if you're driving your vehicle in the summertime there's no cold air from the outside to make any difference. If you ever notice when you're driving around in the winter time when the air cold your vehicle always tends to run better because it actually has cold air going into the engine!
Why some people go the ram air option.
@@IL_BgentylRAM is velocity with minimal cold air.
I installed one that utilized my blocked off hood vent on my 2009 mini cooper s, it gained 12 hp
And i am running an S&B cold air induction intake, with 3 inch exhaust all the way to the end. 8 inch lift with 35inch X 12.5 tires
The k&n makes 2mpg improvements on highway in mine but I also changed spakplugs ,clean throttle body and reset throttle positioning sensor
A clean stock air filter has a lot to do with + MPG's. A dirty one will definitely decrease your MPG's!
Yeah true that, but a dirty K&N or Volant filter still out flow a new stock paper filter hands down...
Well i agree cold air intakes take in hot engine air except mine... i bought a new hood that had the air duct and the air duct actually channles the air from outside into the cold air intake filter.
You’re supposed to put an aluminum box around the bottom part of the cold air intake so it doesn’t suck in the hot air from the engine
Hey, at least you can still walk, unlike a customer her son was hit head on by a drunk it will be sometime before he can walk or ride his bike.
I was few weeks ago heading home a lead car on 2 lane highway at 55 mph suddenly swerved rids in front of my Silverado I had enough time to say a swear word and jerk the steering wheel onto the shoulder. Their mirror was extremely close to me.
Thanks for showing every angle of your truck, geez.
Welcome!
I really can't tell since I added headers to it the same day I added the cai. But I did run mine near the wheel well.
Get Pedal Commander!!! It doesn't change anything inthe ECU or the pattern, but it DOES make the throttle respond much faster and react the way you want the truck to!!!!
Tune > shitty pedal commander
you can test one thing at a time.. your tested the air intake with a exhaust upgrade,, do your test is mute
Try putting it on a dyno first with stock intake then the cold intake. you should get between 8 and 12 kilowatts more at the wheels with the cold intake.
I put a CAI in my 08 sierra. Wasnt happy with the loss in low end torque. Put my factory airbox back in
09 here and 6.0L just noisy and a waste. I dislike them.
makes a big difference on a turbo car...not so much on a naturally aspirated engine.
*ALL* cold air intakes have been proven to not increase performance. In the benchmarks the only thing that worked was putting the filter outside the car entirely. Or having an active ram intake on the hood (scoop to air-in box).
Air intake was moved from center grill to a corner behind the lights with no access to cool air...
I put a sealed box on my 2010 4x4 suburban mine around town I dont check anything,but on a California to Pennsylvania trip I put 6k miles round tripI gained 4 mpg after puting it .I went from 18.9 mpg to 24.o mpg that was at highway speed of 70 to 80 mph and the average for the entire trip
If you don’t mind me asking, do you have the 5.3 or 6.0? I have a 2012 Tahoe with the 5.3 and I’m planning on installing a cold air intake
Sealed Intake with a ram air type would change 100% of the video. Lol
Yup. Definitely doing an S&B closed box on the next rig.
I’d recommend changing your plugs when u do this just for peace of mind and to add to the better mpg
are you talking about spark plugs
Did more than the airaid jr at least 😂
@1CENT I disagree!
John is it about a 10HP gain? Do you think the K&N is better than other expensive and cheap versions? How often do you clean and oil it, twice a year? Have you ever used a coolant additive that cools your engine temp like watter wetter?, do they work?
Some of the K&N CAI have a rubber stripping you install so that the hood closes the box in, same concept I guess. Mine won't be here for 3 more days so I can test it out.
I put 63-3082 on 2015 silverado high country 6.2l 1500 and when i turn on truck, after 3 or 5 seconds truck would turn off as if it did not get any air in
By definition alone it's not a "cold air" intake. The stock system actually pulls air from the "outside" through the fender. The K&N full systems as well as others like it just pull hot air from inside the engine bay. The only advantage they have is the additional amount of air they can pull from the surface area of the cone filter and possibly the routing of the air to the intake to reduce flutter or turbulence. In my opinion, these systems are only efficient or effective with the addition of upgraded turbos and full exhaust systems. As a stand alone they are a poor placement of your hard earned money and offer little performance improvement. That said, they do look cool.
I just ordered on but im planning on getting the exhaust system done next ..I got an 04 yukon
Don't have to worry as long as you have a boosted car or truck that the air goes through an intercooler. Obviously his truck isnt
How about a review of the S&B cold air intake? Like the one on the 2010 gmc.
The inconsistent temps are cause its in open air filter to the motor. Thats why k&N dont really work amd I prefer s&b theres a hude difference in temps amd performance
Yup, I went with a S&B on the current truck!
2019 suburban. Have a k&n with a magnaflow cat back system. Truck sounds great.
Butttttttt. Fuel mileage really sucks now.
You folks say tuning will help?
Drilling standard airbox is best solution off course on the dirty side but no tu much mybe 15 holus withh 10 mm diametar on side airbox where cold air coming...greetings from Split Croatia
Stock box with the mod is a better choice
With what mod?
It's not really a CAI: the engine bay is not properly sealed. For that reason the inlet temperature is higher than with the standard intake, that was sealed to the side of the carbody
I just bought Rough Country CAI and installed it on 2010 Silverado… only thing I can tell difference is in sound and take off… I wouldn’t suggest doing it…
I just installed my Rough Country CAI, yesterday. Missing a key attachment point for a sensor. I jury rigged it by cutting out that connection from the stock system.. Grinding the diameter down to fit, and 2 part epoxy took care of it. I hate when Mail order QC takes a fat dump on the parts I order.
Nice work. Honest an informative.
Appreciate that!
TY so much for your research content. But what did you mean you lost some MPG's following the EXHAUST mod? I thought the freer flowing exhausts were helping. Was this due to more restrictions in the pipes / muffler / resonators AFTER the Cat Converter?
very informative, thanks for sharing, I am researching cold air intakes for my 23 tundra, might go w the TRD intake
outside air temp has dropped that would make a big difference.
Is there some kind of duct brining in fresh air from outside? Because if not, it’s just sucking the hot air from the engine bay. Technically that’s not a cold air intake, it’s a short ram air intake.
Correct… pretty much my whole explanation in the video. Results were sucking in hotter air than the stock air box.
I am thinking of installing a short ram in my acura TL purely for throttle response. The Dbw sucks. It is also easier to clean and replace the ram filter. I drive 90 percent highway so my intake temperature may be more stable.
Great video man! Appreciate your feedback. Doing research for my 14 ram with the 5.7
Stay safe man!
Me too man. You decide to put one on?
I see you added a open top cold air intake. Some manufacturers have cold air intakes that have the top closed with a panel. That may stop a lot of the hot engine air that the open top doesn't.
Yup.. this video is a few years old. My truck now on the channel, I bought a closed S&B intake. Much better
Did you reprogram the computer to get the the mpg increase? I did this to my 13 hemi ram ( did not reprogram the computer) and loss 1 mpg .
jared glass I did not, no sir
I have a Injen close box. Works like a beast
But I already own it so it is what it is I'm getting cat-back dual exhaust and I already ordered the s&b cold air intake but I'm wondering what exhaust should I get on my old truck I would get the loudest possible one well not the loudest one but I would get the 40 series of two chambered flow masrer now I have kids in the truck nowhere and I want to be able to get stickers so what should I go with aborla
Do you have to be carful with water or snow and is it bad for it putting in hot air in the intake
Love the truck and super helpful video that was well put together. Keep up the good content!
Honestly I mean they're going to get a 2500 or I'm just going to get a tundra next time because literally it's a LS block 350 and they run forever and they don't have a lot of issues
You need a intercooler to make these make sense. I wouldnt put these on a NA motor
Not understanding the performance muffler causing worse fuel mileage. I thought intakes and exhaust work together
I believe they do once tuned properly
So if you add an exhaust the gas saving benefits go away?.....(but do you gain power if it)
I think if I tuned the truck properly to take in consideration cooler and more direct air, and more airflow out the exhaust it would correct the issue and yield better fuel mileage. Same thing with HP gains. From my understanding you definitely gain some with bolting it on, however a tune will gain you the best increases! Adjusting the CPU for the cooler and easier air flows. Hope that makes sense!
Do you really lose gas mileage with exhaust. Don't you get better air flow of the exhaust. So not alot of back pressure
Hey stumbled on to your video, great job it helps my understanding of product. JV
Appreciate that!
how come adding a performance intake slowed my 0-60 from originally 5.2 seconds to now a 6.4? i have a 2021 camaro 2.0, can someone explain this?
True name is HOT air intake...Temperature below hood is from 60-90 celsius...
Sorry I shouldn't have to tune my truck or do things to the cam and lifters to make it feel like a truck It should just come like that God damn it luckily 2022 AFM is optional
Any "check engine" light issues after a K&N is installed? Dealership in my area seems to think that the K&N cause issues??
Never had 1 ✊🏼
Don't know if i should step up or be fine with the Airaid Jr. Intake Tube Kit with a dry air filter keeping stock box.. Recommendations?.
l Pronox shoot @lmfscrew a message on Instagram.. he has the Airaid Jr kit you’re thinking about getting and has a few videos on it on his RUclips channel as well.
@@JohnWargo93 been running the kit for a while now and loving it, just don't know if I should step up to a cold air intake .
l Pronox I’m not sure personally.. never ran anything other than the stock air box and then the K&N.
what exhaust kit do you have on that bad boy?
Just a cheap MBRP cat back. Very happy with it for a pipe under $400!
Comparing the same fuel? Winter vs summer fuel?
All 93 octane.. I’m sure this bled from summer into fall so might be slightly mixed “blends” if you will.
Great video. Thank you. But did I hear you say if you add a fancy exhaust like a Flowmaster or whatever you will lose MPG?
Typically you do a bit.. just because you’re letting your truck exhale a lot faster and with more volume. My set up after exhaust I lost only about 1mpg average so nothing too bad. Truck ran a lot better but sacrificed a little fuel.
@@JohnWargo93 So you just lost the minimal MPG increase you got with $$$$ hot (not really cold was it ?)overall intake system, That makes enough sense.... you came about even except you gained some real "cool" noise. For how much money invested ??
@@donsigler588 like literally $250… it’s not that big of a deal, lol
Get smart, fab an aluminum filter box get a cai for it and have external tubes from aluminum box pulling fresh air from somewhere other than the engine bay, results steady colder air better mpg. Depending on certain motors, throttle body spacers can even help with a little mpg and throttle response. I have a 1998 2500 dually with the 350 vortec 4l80e combo , 3:73 gears on 35s and it gets 17-18 mpg on average
John, no you haven't covered everything. You didn't cover the fact that you need to adjust your settings of your ECU (Engine Control Unit) a mini computer. As all modern vehicles have them, they do as it suggests, manages your engine. As the cars are tuned with all the stock fittings. If you put after-market gear on your car and not adjust/tune your cars ECU to accommodate the changes, then of course your car will not operate as expected. Temps will still be high as your putting a performance enhancing part into a stock environment, although you did cover temps as such, but don't you think you need some form of 'outside-the-engine bay' air? Then you'll get the 'cold-air' for your intake. Otherwise, an informative video.
The truck he put it in the ecu should adjust automatically
@@Ttow49 Some do, most don't.
What's a quarter intake?
Nope, I hate cold air intake systems. My Hinda had one and it ran like complete crap. My gas mileage suffered and it didn't run right at all. I put back in my OE air intake system and my car runs, sounds and feels better. My gas mileage went back up. That stupid cold air intake filter kept falling off on mine and it drove me insane. I took it off and just stepped on it uninstalled the stuff and threw it away.
Oil pressure looks a like higher after on acceleration.
Why is your truck shifting at 4k rpm on the 0 to 60 pulls or are you not full throttle
You might wanna go to the dealership and demand a new transmission. If you have the 8l90